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Speaker 1: We are open for business. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me the first open practice of training camp.

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Speaker 1: In other words, what we see we can say finally,

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Speaker 1: so what did we see? Who was where? Who stood out?

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Speaker 1: But first DJ Humphreys unfiltered. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode

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Speaker 1: six fifty four, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Boo to Baker, what heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's in again

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Speaker 1: so far Harry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig grioloud.

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Speaker 1: So this is why we need DG. Humphrey remain healthy

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Speaker 1: all season long. He addressed the media post practice on

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Speaker 1: Thursday one. Danny, it's just good to see him. He's

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy. The back injury is completely behind him.

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Speaker 1: Knock on wood. That stays not only during training camp,

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Speaker 1: preseason and seventeen games in the regular season, but his personality,

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Speaker 1: it just it shines. He is I think maybe the

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Speaker 1: most personal guy in that locker room.

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Speaker 3: He walked into the press conference Thursday, and as reporters

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Speaker 3: are setting down their recorders on the podium. You can

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Speaker 3: go back and watch the live stream on the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: YouTube channel. He makes a job and says, hmm, back

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Speaker 3: in my day, when I was, you know, have to

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Speaker 3: take notes, I actually had to use like a pen

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Speaker 3: and paper. I didn't get to have a recorder. And

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Speaker 3: then he followed up by saying, yeah, but that was

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Speaker 3: actually when I, you know, would go to class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how often did the Cardinals starting left tackle actually attend?

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Speaker 3: I think he did quite fine.

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Speaker 1: That I think he did just well. But yeah, but

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Speaker 1: back in my day, I mean okay, not my day,

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Speaker 1: maybe your day because.

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Speaker 3: Probably around the same age.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to date myself here. But yeah, everyone's

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Speaker 1: got recorders, no one takes no one has pen and

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Speaker 1: paper anymore, Darren Urban.

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Speaker 3: Does again, he does supplementally to his recorder.

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Speaker 1: My generation, not your generation.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. No, it was great to have DJ come

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Speaker 3: out and talk with us, and it's great to see

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Speaker 3: him out and healthy. That's not something we'd seen for

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Speaker 3: the last calendar year really on a consistent basis, and

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Speaker 3: it was good to hear him say that he is

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Speaker 3: fully healthy and that you don't really know that he

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Speaker 3: DJ said, until you get that first bull rush. So

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's gone through two practices now, he

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Speaker 3: said he didn't feel like he was taking a step

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Speaker 3: and had to pause and think, Hm, is this gonna

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Speaker 3: hurt when I move? He said he felt totally great,

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Speaker 3: which is great, great news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quote, this is the first time I've taken live

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Speaker 1: reps and not feeling any pain. And then he brought

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Speaker 1: up later on he is quote super healthy and again

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Speaker 1: you need DJ Humphrey's healthy period for this Cardinals team

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Speaker 1: to be successful in twenty twenty three. He also felt

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Speaker 1: very comfortable speaking to the media. By my counts, maybe

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Speaker 1: you have a different counts. What two three different expletives?

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Speaker 3: What were the expletives? Let's make our producer ship of

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Speaker 3: Mahindro work a little harder. Were what were those expontis?

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Speaker 1: Crag I believe they are part of the seven words.

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Speaker 1: You can't say, I believe. Let's see, one starts with

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Speaker 1: an F, another one starts with an S. But he

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Speaker 1: made it very clear, quote, we don't give a blank

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Speaker 1: about outside expectations and that seems to be a theme

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Speaker 3: Whomever you talk to, That's what I would want to hear, because, honestly,

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Speaker 3: what good does it do to listen to those expectations

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Speaker 3: and get in your head think about where we were

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Speaker 3: as the media and not just us, but you know,

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Speaker 3: outside those expectations at this time last year, what were

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Speaker 3: the expectations of the team with the previous coaching staff

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Speaker 3: how did this team live up to set expectations? So

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Speaker 3: the expectations really don't mean bleep to agree with DJ

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Speaker 3: saying with expectations. And you never know, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: crazy things happen of expectations. I mean, you know, Bengals

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Speaker 3: So I don't really think that expectations, especially this early on,

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Speaker 1: Look, it has happened in eighteen of the past twenty

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Speaker 1: its own division, Jacksonville the most recent example. It is possible.

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Speaker 1: When you win four games, anything can happen. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: our expectations maybe not, But you have to as a

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Speaker 1: that sideline. Yeah, that's what you have to mentally think.

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Speaker 1: So you don't get those expectations and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what am I even doing? What do I

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Speaker 3: And you know what, though, is they do care because

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Speaker 3: there is no allegiance to any of these players who

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Speaker 3: do think that it really doesn't matter what the expectations

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Speaker 3: are these players are, which they say every year, but

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Speaker 3: truly going to go and give everything they have because

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Speaker 3: who knows what things could look like moving forward with

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Speaker 3: this new front office and new coaching staff. So even

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Speaker 3: if you're a player and you've been here, you have

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Speaker 3: you have to show out and earn your spot moving

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Speaker 3: forward on this team.

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Speaker 1: The ninth training camp for DJ Humphreys, who will turn

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Speaker 1: thirty on December twenty eighth. Yeah, the little pup is

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Speaker 1: no longer a puppy, is a veteran in that offensive

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Speaker 1: line room, which is a great transition. Here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned Thursday, the first open practice, fans in attendance.

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Speaker 1: Now just ten more open practices remaining here at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. So when you have an open practice, that

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Speaker 1: means is open for everyone to see what we have

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Speaker 1: seen in the offseason. Just couldn't say it's out loud

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Speaker 1: or in the case of our colleague Darren Urban, right,

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Speaker 1: but we did get a little bit of a glimpse

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Speaker 1: And we talk about DJ Humfries, Yes he's starting at

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Speaker 1: the position battles, what stood out to you who did

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Speaker 3: The offensive line seems to be one of the positions

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Speaker 3: The offensive line starters we've seen in the first two practices,

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Speaker 3: left to right was DJ Humphries, Elijah Wilkinson, Yell de Froholt,

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Speaker 3: But to see that consistently so far, given it has

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Speaker 1: in pads, who stands out who wilt's under that pressure?

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Speaker 3: I do think that's fair. Is he literally just got here,

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Speaker 3: and him getting those those high reps. But you know,

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Speaker 3: So that's impressive. It's not easy to come in. But

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Speaker 3: I also think that's probably why you signed him. That's

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. You brought him up. Sometimes we did see

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Speaker 1: three safeties, but if it was just two, Simmons was

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Speaker 1: the odd man out and working second team, which.

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Speaker 3: Is what you'd expect. I mean, it's not like he

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Speaker 3: has that experience necessarily compared to Buddha Baker or Jalen

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Speaker 3: Thompson or those two have been playing together for so

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Speaker 3: many years and just understanding how they move and that

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Speaker 3: dynamic duo there doesn't really surprise me. All right, you

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Speaker 3: brought it up, give me the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker why did he have In the words of

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Speaker 1: JG on Wednesday, a quote big smile on day one

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Speaker 1: of training camp, first reported by NFL Networks ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: Buddha received a raise prior to camp two point four

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Speaker 1: million dollars in bonuses and incentives, including a three hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars signing bonus, plus a raise for next season.

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Speaker 1: Now there are some more details on that. His contract

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Speaker 1: for next year is not guaranteed. There are some bonuses

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Speaker 1: a part of next year, but it was not a

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Speaker 1: new deal, not an extension, and not a trade, all

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Speaker 1: things that Buddha had reportedly asked for in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: but maybe a happy middle ground between team and player

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Speaker 1: to say, all right, we'll put a little bit more

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Speaker 1: coin in your pocket and let's revisit this discussion next offseason.

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Speaker 3: This to me seems like the best case scenario for

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Speaker 3: both sides. Buddha Baker has two years left on his deal,

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Speaker 3: he has no leverage. It's all in the team's hands.

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Speaker 3: It's not like Buddha Baker could have held out and

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Speaker 3: not played because he's not in a contract year. So

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Speaker 3: I like this move by general manager Money Austin for

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Speaker 3: it to kind of show him that you are truly

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Speaker 3: interested in keeping him here and keeping him happy and

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Speaker 3: giving him something to kind of please him and his team.

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Speaker 3: Right his agent of here, we'll give you little something now,

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Speaker 3: it kind of sounds like, right, well, we'll give you more.

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Speaker 3: It's a pinky promise. We'll give you more next year. Right. So,

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Speaker 3: but it does feel like from both sides that they

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Speaker 3: are truly trying to figure out ways that works, to

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Speaker 3: make this work that is best for both sides. And

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Speaker 3: I like this. I think this makes sense. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it made sense for this front office to give

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Speaker 3: him a new contract and set that precedent with two

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Speaker 3: years left. You understand why as a player this is

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Speaker 3: something they would want, especially you know before contract ends,

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Speaker 3: of your health and where your play's.

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Speaker 1: And all of that.

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Speaker 3: So I like this. I like giving Buddha Baker a

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Speaker 3: little something now and then focusing maybe on that contract

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Speaker 3: extension or something completely new next year.

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Speaker 1: Game day bonuses, off season workout bonuses, incentives for reaching

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl or first team.

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Speaker 3: All Pro those are really not that much.

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Speaker 1: It in the grand scheme of themes. It's not again

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Speaker 1: when you again, according to reports, you have your agents

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Speaker 1: or someone saying you want to be the high you

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Speaker 1: either traded or become the highest paid safety, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well, twenty twenty three contract is guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: which it was going to be anyway as long as

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Speaker 1: he was on the roster week one. But next year's

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Speaker 1: salary fourteen point two not guaranteed. But let's revisit this

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Speaker 1: conversation in the offseason and see, I'll say this can

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Speaker 1: and this is nationally, not the local media, national. You

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Speaker 1: talk about the disrespect that Buddha has felt, and he's

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Speaker 1: expressed it on social media. Attention national media. Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: wears number three.

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Speaker 3: For how many years now.

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Speaker 1: Several years and I don't know how many times it

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Speaker 1: would live less than a handful, but anytime more than

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Speaker 1: once is a problem. But how many times we see

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Speaker 1: the picture of him in a number thirty two? In fact,

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Speaker 1: even on the NFL Top one hundred they showed him

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Speaker 1: in a number thirty two uniform and that set Buddha

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Speaker 1: off on an Instagram disrespect rant. So it's not that

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Speaker 1: difficult to find updated photos. Especially this is not a

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Speaker 1: new thing. This is several years in the works. It

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Speaker 1: should not be difficult. Dan need defined Buddha Baker in

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Speaker 1: a number three Cardinals uniform. It doesn't even have to

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Speaker 1: be the new uniform. It can be last year's uniform

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Speaker 1: or the year before that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should also go on a rant on social

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Speaker 3: media back Buddha up.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I do back him up on that, because that

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Speaker 1: just what it's lazy.

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Speaker 3: It is it is, it's lazy.

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Speaker 1: Especially from Ian Rappaport. I'm sorry he started it. Posted

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Speaker 1: a photo Buddha. We're in thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not his number anymore. No, get with the times.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to worry about that.

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Speaker 3: What you do I do, No, don't worry about that.

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Speaker 3: I will always post a picture of Buddha wearing number three.

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Speaker 1: The earliest padded practice is Monday, July thirty first and Danny.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll see if some guys start to separate themselves,

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Speaker 1: pick king up the blitz.

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Speaker 3: That's where the fun begins. There won't be fighting, Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Gannon said, there's no tolerance for fights, so I don't

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Speaker 3: expect that, but we will.

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