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<v Speaker 1>tv hit contact Guests. This week, I'm gonna talk to journalists, creators,

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<v Speaker 1>and analysts who attended Galaxy Unpacked in Paris for their

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<v Speaker 1>take on Samsung's new gadgets. Later, we've got shopping expert

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Bodge. She's gonna share smart tips to maximize this

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<v Speaker 1>year's Amazon Prime Day. And later we've got the co

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<v Speaker 1>founder of the Oco app. He's gonna explain how his

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<v Speaker 1>app helps the visually impaired safely cross streets. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>week I was in Paris, France, my first time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung brought me there for Galaxy Unpacked. This is their

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<v Speaker 1>event that they held in the basement of the Louver

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<v Speaker 1>and are also sponsoring the Olympics, so I think it

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<v Speaker 1>all seemed fitting for Samsung to have their event in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where they showed off foldaboles, a new watch,

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<v Speaker 1>a new ring, new earbuds, all kinds of great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>This was my first time in Paris. I'll share some

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<v Speaker 1>observations with you. Great historic city. The food was just

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<v Speaker 1>as rich as I imagined.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be.

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<v Speaker 1>People love to sit outside at bistro tables and just

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<v Speaker 1>talk and eat and drink all day long, it seems,

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<v Speaker 1>and surprisingly smoke. Lots of smokers over there, like they

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<v Speaker 1>did not get the message about how smoking is bad

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So my first night sitting I sat downwind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a table of well everyone was smoking outside

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, but I will say every time I take

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<v Speaker 1>an international trip, technology continues to make international travel easier.

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<v Speaker 1>So this trip was I think the first or the

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<v Speaker 1>second time that I did not have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>an ATM even once. My Tap to pay on my

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<v Speaker 1>phone worked every single time except once. Translation apps make

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<v Speaker 1>it so much easier to understand signs. I was even

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<v Speaker 1>able to download the Metro app for their subway there,

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<v Speaker 1>buy a ticket on my phone and use tap to

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<v Speaker 1>go all for my phone. I was so impressed, although

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<v Speaker 1>I will say New York City's implementation is the best

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<v Speaker 1>I've found because you do not need to do anything special.

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<v Speaker 1>They made it so that if you have a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card or a debit card set up on your phone

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<v Speaker 1>is tap to pay. That serves as your ticket to

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<v Speaker 1>ride the subway. All you do is tap and go.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you ride it like a certain amount of times,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say nine times in a week, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a cutoff. They will then just billy the flat rate

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<v Speaker 1>for that week, so you're not getting overcharged if you

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<v Speaker 1>take it a bunch. So I thought New York City

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<v Speaker 1>did a really nice job there. My phone worked perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not need an eSIM this time around. I

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<v Speaker 1>had enough days banked in my travel pass. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did try out one of the sims that I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about here on the show gig Sky. They offer a

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<v Speaker 1>free one hundred megabyte e SIM, so I downloaded that

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<v Speaker 1>just to try it out and see if it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked perfectly, but I will tell you one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>megabytes is not enough to do anything overseas. It ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of the megabytes without me doing anything, So anything

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<v Speaker 1>that was happening in the background on my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>That burned it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the cool things I did was board the

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<v Speaker 1>plane using facial recognition outside of LAX so you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>seen TSA using more facial recognition, but this was actually

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the plane. I did not show my

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<v Speaker 1>boarding pass. I literally just scanned my face and the

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<v Speaker 1>doors opened and I got on the plane. So instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having a line of people and one person checking

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<v Speaker 1>boarding passes, now it is just like four or five

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<v Speaker 1>little areas you stand in and there's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>glass doors and you just show your If you're good,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns green, the doors open up, you get on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. So watch for that to happen more often

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<v Speaker 1>because guess what, less people needed to do anything, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the trend we're seeing with technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Internet much more private in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that those cookie choice screens, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to a website it's like, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>mind if we use cookies? Well over in Europe they

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<v Speaker 1>have much stronger privacy protection and data protection laws, so

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<v Speaker 1>it will tell you very clearly do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>accept all the cookies or reject them? They don't play

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<v Speaker 1>games with you like they do here in the US. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed when your data is being shared, it tells

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<v Speaker 1>you how many people it's sharing that data with. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, I was setting up one of the Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>test devices and I said, hey, do you mind if

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<v Speaker 1>we share your data with these seven hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight partners we have.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, what, no comment there?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone walking around Paris is looking at their phone, So

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<v Speaker 1>that is a universal thing at this point, seems like

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<v Speaker 1>phones are you know, phone zombies are everywhere. But I

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<v Speaker 1>still think there's lots of opportunities to help people find

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<v Speaker 1>their way around new cities with the smartphone, also learning

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<v Speaker 1>about landmarks and helping people choose restaurants. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I do not have a good method for finding good

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants around me. Let's say I'm staying at a hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really tough to vet restaurants and figure out like

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<v Speaker 1>is this a tourist trap, is it a good place?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it recommended? Does it just have a lot of reviews?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know it's on Instagram? So at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, how did I get most of my

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<v Speaker 1>recommendations from other people and concierge? So there's still a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunities for technology to make that easier. Uber

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<v Speaker 1>definitely making the world an easier place to get around.

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<v Speaker 3>I took Uber. I was in where was I last weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Bendorgon last weekend, and we took so many Ubers because

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<v Speaker 1>we decided not to rent a car, and this time

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris. Of course I did not I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to rent a car. Took it everywhere, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's truly remarkable to me how a product that was

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<v Speaker 1>created here in the US is just had an impact

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. There's a little bit of a language barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to meet my driver at the airport

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<v Speaker 1>and they were in a different place than I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell they were in a different place because

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<v Speaker 1>of the bubble on the phone or the blue dot

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<v Speaker 1>that shows you where they were and where I was.

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<v Speaker 1>But they kept calling me, and I can't speak French,

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<v Speaker 1>so I you know, there's like a language barrier there.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we started texting through the Uber app because

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed to be easier, and I noticed under our

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<v Speaker 1>text is said translated from French to English, like, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing that on the fly. So literally, not only

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<v Speaker 1>can you get a ride anywhere, but now you can

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<v Speaker 1>chat with the driver and it's instantly going to translate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just brilliant things like this that are

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<v Speaker 1>making life a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Bobo.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, don't disregard the feature that lets you reserve an

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<v Speaker 1>Uber in advance. A lot of people may not know

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but basically, you can reserve a car so

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<v Speaker 1>that it's there for you waiting, and it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fancy car. I'm not talking like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>super expensive town car service. But you can just get

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<v Speaker 1>a car in advance so you don't have to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're waking up early trying to catch

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<v Speaker 1>a flight. And what I liked about this, I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>seen this before. Uber was like, hey, try this new

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<v Speaker 1>feature where you just type in your flight number and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take care of figuring out when to pick you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing on the back end, So just put in

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<v Speaker 1>your flight number and we'll take care of when you

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<v Speaker 1>land and.

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<v Speaker 3>When we should pick you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I will say the driver that picked me up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because my flight was delayed. They said it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out so perfectly. But for me on the

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<v Speaker 1>front end, getting to the airport from my hotel to

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris airport. I didn't really know, do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to leave early? Do I need to you know, give

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<v Speaker 1>myself enough time? And sure enough Uber figured it all

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<v Speaker 1>out and it worked out perfectly, And yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was great. The event itself well organized, but Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>held this thing in the middle of a major tourist attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>They unveiled multiple products, two foldable phones, two smart watches,

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<v Speaker 1>two sets of your duds, and a new health tracking ring.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the new products are going to be available

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<v Speaker 1>on July twenty fourth, So just to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>quick rundown, I've been playing with almost all of these

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<v Speaker 1>products except the ring, the Flip six, and the Fold six.

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<v Speaker 1>These are their foldable phones. These new models are the

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<v Speaker 1>slimmest and lightest yet. Also they have improved durability, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not familiar, the Flip is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looks like the old school Motorol eraser. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a small screen on the outside, big screen on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside that got the most improvements. The cameras are

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<v Speaker 1>finally on par now with the S twenty four, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking about getting the entry level Samsung, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go with this little Flippy phone and get the

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<v Speaker 1>same camera quality. They upgraded to a fifty megapixel main

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<v Speaker 1>camera and a twelve megapixel ultra wide. I was taking

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<v Speaker 1>this phone around Paris taking pictures. It works great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>if you want something that's different. The Flip six is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. That starts at eleven hundred dollars. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they went up by one hundred dollars. I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the one that opens and closes like a book,

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<v Speaker 1>so you get this kind of narrow screen on the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>which has gotten wider over the years. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>you open it up, it is a nice tablet sized

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<v Speaker 1>screen seven point six inches on the inside. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge screen. Now that is nineteen hundred dollars. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really improve the cameras on this. They said they

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<v Speaker 1>put AI on it to make the cameras better. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the phone for kind of This is the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the line Samsung phone when it comes to technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the cameras because the S twenty four camera

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<v Speaker 1>ultra cameras are still better. But if you want something

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<v Speaker 1>that's super unique and different, I think they got the

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<v Speaker 1>form factor to a place where it feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Good in the hand, it's slim, it's light.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to get better, but I think at this

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<v Speaker 1>point they've made a device that is foldable and very,

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<v Speaker 1>very usable. So again, that is the z Fold six

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundred dollars. You're talking the price of a laptop

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<v Speaker 1>for a phone. But the good news is you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really need anything else besides that because it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>function in so many great ways. They also talked about

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<v Speaker 1>their AI features. Samsung really pushing AI, and they're pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it in a different way than Apple because they're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it to a lot of older models. So right now

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<v Speaker 1>you can get all their AI features on the S

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, S twenty three series, S twenty four series,

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<v Speaker 1>and the foldables, Whereas when Apple comes out with Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence rumored for later this year or early next year,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to work on the iPhone fifteen Pro models

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<v Speaker 1>and up, which means a lot of the older models

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to get them. And no surprise here.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one AI feature that Samsung has introduced is

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<v Speaker 1>called Circle to Search with Google, and it means you

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<v Speaker 1>can circle anything on your screen. You can translate the text,

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<v Speaker 1>you can reverse search the picture, you can search the

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<v Speaker 1>text whatever you want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It is very very useful.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it is one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>have been loving the S twenty four Ultra so much, because,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're traveling internationally, it is just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it feels very very smart, and it feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>feature that we need on our phones and you get

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<v Speaker 1>it there. All right, Coming up, I'll tell you some

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<v Speaker 1>more about the products. We still have two more products

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, an ultra watch and a ring, plus

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<v Speaker 1>some earbuds. Eight eight eight rich one oh one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 3>This is rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was talking about Samsung and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>products that they unveiled. They unveiled a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you that this is Samsung's moment.

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<v Speaker 1>They now have an ecosystem that is so rich and

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<v Speaker 1>so wide ranging that you are not giving up anything

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<v Speaker 1>by being in it. The reason why this Ultra watch

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<v Speaker 1>fills a need of people that want kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>nicer watch that's more geared towards hiking and on all

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme sports kind of stuff. And then the ring

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<v Speaker 1>is they are the first major company to have a

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<v Speaker 1>ring that sort of integrates with everything else. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the Aura ring out there, but you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>using its own app, and it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>it's an island, and there's nothing wrong with Aura. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the big ring right now. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Samsung has one that works in their ecosystem and

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<v Speaker 1>it works with the watch. So if you're wearing the

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<v Speaker 1>watch and the ring, they will take the best readings

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<v Speaker 1>off of whichever device is working at the best at time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're sleeping, it'd probably be the ring. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're out on a bike ride, it'd probably be the watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you about this Ultra Watch. This

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<v Speaker 1>is six hundred and fifty dollars. It's fantastic. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>got a titanium frame. It's got good water resistance, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got good altitude so you can go from five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>meters below sea level to nine thousand meters high. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got all kinds of different tracking, so it's got really

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<v Speaker 1>accurate tracking. It's got the addition of a quick button,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you can instantly start a workout. Yes, just

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<v Speaker 1>like the Apple Watch. Ultra It's got an emergency siren. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Apple Watch Ultra. It's got a bright

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<v Speaker 1>display up to three thousand knits which is actually very bright, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Ultra from Apple. And it's got the

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<v Speaker 1>longest battery life on a Galaxy Watch, so up to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred hours in power saving mode. Now that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be realistic for most people because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>track your stuff, but it's nice to have that option

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you're gonna get for me after a whole day

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<v Speaker 1>of travel yesterday, I was down to about I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was about fifty percent sixty percent, and you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>almost twenty four hours of travel yesterday. So but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do a workout. So again, six hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't LTE version, which means cellular, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>leave your phone behind and still get your text and

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<v Speaker 1>your calls. It's a forty seven millimeters watch size. It's

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<v Speaker 1>available in gray, white, and silver. My choice is the gray.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like that. The white is really cool too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I saw the silver. Let's see what else, Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Galaxy ring. So this is the Galaxy ring. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you've seen like the Aura Ring, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty four to seven health monitoring, up to seven

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<v Speaker 1>days battery life. It's lightweight. I tried it on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because Samsung says, oh, these sizes are not standard,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to get a sizing kit or you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to a store to get sized before

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let you order this thing. But I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>give me size ten and sure it up. It fit

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<v Speaker 1>me just like a size ten ring. So take it

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<v Speaker 1>for what it's worth. But you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to order this apparently without getting some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>sizing kit first, and I think that's because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to deal with all the returns on the wrong sizes.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is really a big thing to track your sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's got sleep tracking, it's got skin temperature monitoring,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got this new energy score, which all of these

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<v Speaker 1>rings are doing. Kind of this like energy score. Aura

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<v Speaker 1>has it, the Amaze fit has it. But that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a score of your day, So how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is looking at your sleep, your activity, your

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping heart rate, and your sleeping heart rate variability to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know how prepped you are for your day.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your scores a little low, it's going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe today is not the best day

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. Maybe take it as a recovery day.

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<v Speaker 1>It also has automatic walking and running tracking. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>heart rate alerts, so it will give you a real

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<v Speaker 1>time notification if you have an unusual heart rate issue happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And gesture controls.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have this ring on and you set

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<v Speaker 1>your phone up on a tripod or you just have

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<v Speaker 1>your phone in your hand for a selfie, you can

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<v Speaker 1>pinch your two fingers together and that will take a photo.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also pinch your two fingers together to dismiss

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<v Speaker 1>the alarm on your smartphone, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>very dangerous feature because I think people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing that a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Might want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Disable that one. The Rain comes in three colors, silver, gold,

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<v Speaker 1>and black. It is four hundred dollars. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>subscription fees. That was a big rumor that Samsung was

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<v Speaker 1>going to start charging subscription fees. That is not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>so that into consideration again. All of these products from

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung are available on July twenty fourth, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I've been playing with them and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been really impressed. I wore the Galaxy uh Buds three

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<v Speaker 1>Pro all day on the plane yesterday. They sounded fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>They have two new Galaxy Buds Pro. They now have

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<v Speaker 1>a stalk which before they come they almost look like

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<v Speaker 1>beans before that you put in your ear. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>look like, you know, very standard earbuds. So again that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a wrap up on the Samsung stuff. You

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<v Speaker 1>have any questions about it, give me a call. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Now to continue

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<v Speaker 1>with the Samsung I know it's a lot coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk to some of the folks that

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<v Speaker 1>were at the event with me to get their take

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<v Speaker 1>on this stuff. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight eight eight seven four to two four to

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<v Speaker 1>one zero one. We'll get back to the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>in just a moment, but first let's take you back

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<v Speaker 1>to Paris for a deeper dive into Samsung's announcements. They

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<v Speaker 1>showed off two new foldable phones, plus an ultra watch,

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<v Speaker 1>earbuds and a smart ring. First up, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Bob O'Donnell, President and chief analyst at TECHnalysis Research. Bob

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<v Speaker 1>shares his thoughts on Samsung's focus on digital health. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the event was great.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean doing it in Paris right before the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 4>of course was exciting. It gave it an international feel

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<v Speaker 4>and flair, and it's important for Samsung. I mean, Europe

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<v Speaker 4>is their second largest market, so I think that was great. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>do we end the louver made it even more exciting,

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought that was great, you know, And then

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<v Speaker 4>the big story for me is digital health. Like they

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<v Speaker 4>really focused on digital health. Obviously, they added the ring,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the big new edition. They added the Watch

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<v Speaker 4>Ultra with fis looks just like Apple's Watch Ultra, but

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<v Speaker 4>I wish they would have did a little bit different design.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, it's still important to their whole digital whole

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<v Speaker 4>hell story. And of course they focused on AI. But

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<v Speaker 4>the interesting thing for me was, hey, it's censors from

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<v Speaker 4>wearables with AI to do digital health, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>I think a really interesting story and frankly it puts

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<v Speaker 4>them ahead of everybody else because they're the only big

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<v Speaker 4>company that's got that complete suite. You know of devices

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<v Speaker 4>with the watch ring and of course the smartphone with

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<v Speaker 4>the app that's it's combining all that data. So to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the big takeaway from this show, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>In that regard.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been a big foldable fan for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and frankly, this year's iteration is a pretty modest upgrade

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<v Speaker 4>compared to previous ones. But then I also have to remember,

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<v Speaker 4>look for the mainstream audience, foldables are still kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a new thing and we're really just starting to see

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<v Speaker 4>it take off. And the fact that Samsung now has

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<v Speaker 4>more competition from other vendors is actually making the foldable

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<v Speaker 4>market one of the few areas of the smartphone market

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<v Speaker 4>that's act growing because it as a small base to

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<v Speaker 4>grow from, but it's a new and different form factor

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of people are excited by that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a couple of things are going to make

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<v Speaker 4>that foldable purchases happen. Number one, of course, the price

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<v Speaker 4>points are kind of high and that's a challenge for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people. But as we start to see applications,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think some of the AI applications that can

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<v Speaker 4>leverage the foldable screen, like the interpreter application, those kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of things that leverage those two screens that are foldable

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<v Speaker 4>has and then combine that with AI. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>there are things you can do with that phone that

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<v Speaker 4>you cannot do with any other phone. It's not about

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<v Speaker 4>just having a bigger screen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a completely.

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<v Speaker 4>Different experience, and I think those kinds of things is

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<v Speaker 4>what will trigger it. But look, at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, it's going to be a price point. Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen some level of component price issues. That's always

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<v Speaker 4>a factor. But I think Samsung also is trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make clear that they've got a premium line of devices

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<v Speaker 4>and prices are not quite as big of an issue

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<v Speaker 4>for those premium phone buyers. So I think they're continuing

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<v Speaker 4>to position the foldables there. The big question will be

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<v Speaker 4>when will they go to a mainstream price point for

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<v Speaker 4>those foldables, And we'll see maybe next.

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<v Speaker 1>Year next I talked to Rebecca Isaac's consumer tech and

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<v Speaker 1>electronics editor at Forbes Vetted.

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<v Speaker 3>Rebecca gives us her.

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<v Speaker 1>Take on the Galaxy Ring and its potential impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the wearable tech market.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, the ring is really exciting. It's the

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<v Speaker 5>person it's kind from Samsung. I mean, sure, we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>products like the Aura Ring Gen three, and there are

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<v Speaker 5>a few others out there, like Ring Kong produces the

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<v Speaker 5>one that I'm aware of, but the first one from Samsung.

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<v Speaker 5>It feels light to wear, It's really comfortable, It's made

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<v Speaker 5>of a super durable titanium fild, and daring my hands

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<v Speaker 5>on of it, it felt very sturdy, like it's not

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<v Speaker 5>going to break, It's not going to slide off of

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<v Speaker 5>my hand as I'm washing the dishes. I really like

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<v Speaker 5>the battery life. That seven day battery like that it

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<v Speaker 5>promises is really exciting because I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm always forgetting to charge my watch, very guilty

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<v Speaker 5>of daki, but I'm really excited for it. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have some really great use cases for someone who maybe

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<v Speaker 5>wants the smart technology but doesn't want to wear a

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<v Speaker 5>bulky watch on their wrist.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I love social media content creator Parker Burton. He makes

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<v Speaker 1>Android focused content on TikTok and Instagram. He told me

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<v Speaker 1>he appreciates the refinements in Samsung's latest foldables, but something

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<v Speaker 1>has to give.

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<v Speaker 3>For people to really want one.

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<v Speaker 7>And at this event, I'm really excited for the refinements

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<v Speaker 7>with the Z flip and.

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<v Speaker 3>The Z fold.

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<v Speaker 7>I love the flattened up edges and the matt rails

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<v Speaker 7>and the map backs, heels a lot more premium than before.

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<v Speaker 7>Also love the ring and how it's like now connecting

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<v Speaker 7>with the watch, so you don't need a separate app

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<v Speaker 7>for your ring and a separate app for your watch.

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<v Speaker 7>They all connect together, which is great. And the earbuds

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit interesting. It looks like some other earbut

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<v Speaker 7>that we know. But I guess I'll try them out

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<v Speaker 7>and see if they're good. I think once they introduce

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<v Speaker 7>a lot more features that could be more compelling, Like

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, they've showed us features like taking hands free selfies,

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<v Speaker 7>which that can be compelling. But I think for people

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<v Speaker 7>who aren't already fold or flip users, there's got to

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<v Speaker 7>be something big that people are like, oh yeah, now

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<v Speaker 7>I want it, which I don't know if we're there

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<v Speaker 7>yet for some people. For some people, yes, for sure

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<v Speaker 7>they love their folds and flips, but for others, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what's gonna make them switch.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the future we could get something come.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, there's probably people who want a folding phone,

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<v Speaker 7>but just because of the price, they just like can't

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<v Speaker 7>get it, and so if somehow the price goes down,

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<v Speaker 7>then there's people that'll probably just snatch at it immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up at abung Ata also known as thunder E

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<v Speaker 1>from Board at Work.

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<v Speaker 8>And this impact was quite interesting because we saw some

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<v Speaker 8>really new stuff, some upgrades, and honestly, I've got a

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<v Speaker 8>little mixed feelings on it. I love the ring, I

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<v Speaker 8>love the idea of the ring. I like when it's

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<v Speaker 8>smart rings, the buds. I like the improvements I'm seeing there.

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<v Speaker 8>The new Watch Ultra looks kind of similar, but I

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<v Speaker 8>still love the fact there's a ton of features.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>When it comes to the Galaxy Z Flip six Z

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<v Speaker 8>Fold six as well, I kind of I'm leaning towards

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<v Speaker 8>the Flip six. I think there's more upgrades on that device.

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<v Speaker 8>The fifty megapixel, new sensor, the new ultra, why you know,

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<v Speaker 8>just a little accents on the design look really nice.

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<v Speaker 8>The fold is thinner and lighter, but I'm gonna lean

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<v Speaker 8>to the Flip six overall. I think this is pretty

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<v Speaker 8>good on the health department from Samsong. When it comes

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<v Speaker 8>to the phones, we just have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 8>As an Android used, I like the flexibility that Android brings,

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<v Speaker 8>and Samsung, as the market leader, does bring a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of features in a more polished fashion. Plus they have

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<v Speaker 8>honestly the best camera on an Android device. And I've

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<v Speaker 8>been using the Galaxy Notes since the very first note,

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<v Speaker 8>So for me, the S twenty four Ultra makes sense.

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<v Speaker 8>I write a lot of notes. I still try and

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<v Speaker 8>write something or else, you know, I'll forget how to

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<v Speaker 8>write anything at all, So I love it for that feature.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, lance Yulenov, Editor at large at tech Radar, He's

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<v Speaker 1>particularly impressed with Samsung's progress in creating a cohesive ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>of devices.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think, you know, the ring is really the

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<v Speaker 9>hot thing to me because it follows the trend of

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<v Speaker 9>you know, lower impact or you don't have to have

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<v Speaker 9>a screen where you can go to bed with the

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<v Speaker 9>tracking device because we really don't want to sleep with

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<v Speaker 9>our watches, you know, because if we look at that

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<v Speaker 9>Samsung Galaxy Watch Aultra, that thing is a beef thing.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm not going to sleep with that. But the ring

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<v Speaker 9>I'll sleep with. Then seven days of battery life. That's

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<v Speaker 9>kind of exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the new.

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<v Speaker 9>Help you know technology, They've got the AI stuff that's

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<v Speaker 9>built into it. I also like that Samsung is starting

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<v Speaker 9>to really deliver on the ecosystem idea either getting closer

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<v Speaker 9>to doing that thing that's going to excite people about

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<v Speaker 9>owning a whole bunch of Samsung devices. ICE is going

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<v Speaker 9>to be a big leason. Guess what, the Samsung Galaxy

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<v Speaker 9>D fault six just got one hundred dollars more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm honestly really.

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<v Speaker 9>Success, you know, surprised about that.

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<v Speaker 10>I do like the device.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the design is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that then, or I like that it's lighter.

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<v Speaker 9>They did not really upgrade the cameras to what I wanted,

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm not really sure why I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred dollars more.

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to expand the.

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<v Speaker 9>Market, they've got to make these things cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's good.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a race of AI, right, So we have, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>the Galaxy AI versus Apple Intelligence, and Samsung seems like

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<v Speaker 9>maybe they're going to deliver some of these features sooner

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<v Speaker 9>than what Apple's capable of. Some of our Apple Intelligence

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<v Speaker 9>features again puts to twenty twenty five, so maybe Samsung

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<v Speaker 9>gets a lead there. But it's really about how many

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<v Speaker 9>people are using these things. Will they use them on

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<v Speaker 9>the Samsung Galaxy devices? And that depends on how easy

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<v Speaker 9>they are to find and how effective they are every

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<v Speaker 9>time they use them.

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung has always been on the cutting edge with new features,

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<v Speaker 1>new products, and just overall putting a lot out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple might be considered the more premium ecosystem, but Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>continues to push the envelope and deliver new ideas, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>years before the competition. Keep in mind, these foldables have

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<v Speaker 1>been around now for five years and they just seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be getting started. I'm rich Demiro more rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech right after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four two four one zero one. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>anxious for me to get to the phone lines. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot to get through with the Samsung stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that explained a lot of it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a better understanding of all the products that they have

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<v Speaker 1>put out and the website for the show rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech dot TV. I've got everything that I mentioned written

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<v Speaker 1>up in today's newsletter, So just go to the website

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech dot tv UH. You can find the

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter there and if you want to read more about

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<v Speaker 1>the Samsung stuff, it is all there. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>Sally in Los Angeles. Sally, you're on.

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<v Speaker 3>With Rich.

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<v Speaker 11>Hi.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi. So my question is I'm traveling to China in

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<v Speaker 10>a few weeks and I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>apps or website or band in China that we can

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<v Speaker 10>use here in the US. So I'm trying to figure

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<v Speaker 10>out what is the best Do I purchase at ethan,

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<v Speaker 10>do I get a VPN? What is the best way

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<v Speaker 10>so that I can still use all the apps that

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<v Speaker 10>I can use here?

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<v Speaker 3>There good question.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are using your cellular service that you

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<v Speaker 1>have here, pretty much everything is going to work as normal.

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<v Speaker 1>So that it's weird because when I was last over there,

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<v Speaker 1>there were things that if I was on my cellular

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<v Speaker 1>everything would work just fine. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's because it's an American cellular company or what, but

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<v Speaker 1>in general things worked pretty well. So I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to access a lot of the stuff that you typically

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<v Speaker 1>you can't there. Now if you're not if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>using your own cellular, like if you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get like an eSIM, that's for China, then yes, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to use like a VPN to access things

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<v Speaker 1>like Twitter, to access Google, to access Facebook. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything over there is banned. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>you going for? Is it work or fun?

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<v Speaker 10>Or what for fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I'm going for a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Of weeks, Okay, So yeah, so it might be just

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<v Speaker 1>mostly social media that you're going to be impacted, obviously, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Maps, things like that. It's been a while since

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<v Speaker 1>I was at in China, so it's I'm trying to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the last time I was there, I felt I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like everything pretty much worked as long as I

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<v Speaker 1>was on my cellular. But if I wasn't on cellular,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I was on the work or the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi, that's when things stopped working. So I personally,

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<v Speaker 1>just to prepare, would get the VPN, and that way,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're over there in China, you would log onto

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<v Speaker 1>the VPN and you would choose a US server as

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<v Speaker 1>your host on that VPN. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>look at, you know, some of the recommended VPNs, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got I've got an article that you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>google just Ktla DeMuro VPN and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The article is.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, do you do you need a VPN, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what the experts recommend, and there's some recommendations for what

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<v Speaker 1>you should look for in a VPN, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's probably what I would do, just to be

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<v Speaker 1>sure and make sure that your VPN is working before

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<v Speaker 1>you go over there. And then for e SIM I

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<v Speaker 1>like arlow A I R A l O. You've probably

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<v Speaker 1>heard me talk about them on the show. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>check if they have one for China. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>they have a VPN for China or sorry, a.

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<v Speaker 10>SIM China for a low because I'm going to China

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<v Speaker 10>and after China, I'm going to Japan. Uh, what they

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<v Speaker 10>have when an ethan that will work in both countries

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<v Speaker 10>or in China is a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Specific sometimes they do. So there are regions, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you type in China, it will give you all of

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<v Speaker 1>the all of the SIMS that will work there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think China is kind of its own thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking on the website and it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>they have a regional one. So and Japan, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is a little tricky with eSIMs. So when I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an iPhone or an Android, Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be fine because on Android specifically, pixels in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>with the eSIMs do not like to work. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was driving me nuts the last time I was there

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<v Speaker 1>because I all, you know, typically I travel with an

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<v Speaker 1>Android in an iPhone and my iPhone I fired up

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<v Speaker 1>the eSIM, no problem. Then all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to the pixel and it's like it's just not working,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what is the problem here? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I finally cross reference talked to a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, yeah, for some reason, the pixel specifically

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<v Speaker 1>just has it or did have an issue with this

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<v Speaker 1>with this Aralow sim. If you look on the sim,

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<v Speaker 1>if you and read the terms on the sim card,

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<v Speaker 1>it will tell you that certain devices do not work

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<v Speaker 1>with that sim. So for my purposes, the pixel was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those devices. It just did not work on there. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gotten a lot easier. You can buy all

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<v Speaker 1>these things before you go, so that you're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're all set up. What service do you have on

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<v Speaker 1>your cellular? Is it AT and T, Verizon, T Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T Okay, so with AT and T, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on the plan you're on, I would call them and

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<v Speaker 1>see if you have any like what your data passes,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes you know, if you're only there for a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so, it might you might get a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of free days on their on their roaming.

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<v Speaker 3>So call AT and T. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So on my last trip to Paris on my account,

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<v Speaker 1>I had twelve days of free roaming.

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<v Speaker 3>So it depends on your play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so call The first thing to do is call

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>AT and T say hey, do I have any international

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>days included in my plan? And they will look that

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<v Speaker 1>up and say, oh, yeah, you've got five days free,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you know that you've got Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's good to know.

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<v Speaker 10>So as long as I let's let's just say I

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<v Speaker 10>I call AT and T let them know I'm traveling,

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<v Speaker 10>and I stay on my cellular plan while I'm in China,

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<v Speaker 10>everything should work.

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<v Speaker 3>It should.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just you know, I'm telling you from

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<v Speaker 1>my memory of when I was on my US you

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<v Speaker 1>know SIM, when I was just roaming. It seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>work because I don't know if they have like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're on an American SIM card. It's like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're an American, you have access to these things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I you know, okay, but I'd be prepared just

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<v Speaker 1>for the you know, for the for the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>the VPN, but in general, you know, and things have

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<v Speaker 1>it might have changed over there. I'm not really sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, in general, be prepared with the VPNs

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that you have connections no matter what, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>can access to things that are important to you once

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<v Speaker 1>you're over there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a little bit of a.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a vp in like a pretty easy like do

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<v Speaker 10>I just turn it on while I'm there and then instead?

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<v Speaker 10>Do I need to do any settings on my iPhone

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<v Speaker 10>in order for the VPN to work.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but you you know, you have to set it up,

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<v Speaker 1>set up everything here so that when you get there

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to toggle it on. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>very Most of the VPNs are very very simple to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you install it on your phone, it will say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can we install a VPN profile? You install that VPN profile,

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<v Speaker 1>and then some apps will say, hey, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>us to be on all the time. I don't recommend that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, there's a way to toggle on inside

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<v Speaker 1>the app. Usually I have like a big power button

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<v Speaker 1>looking thing you press that you'll see VPN in the

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<v Speaker 1>upper right hand corner of your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Connected to the VPN, and then you know you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can go on as normal. But again I would

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>set this all up here so that you kind of

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>have an idea you could try the VPN out here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so try all this stuff here and get familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with it before you get there. And again the first

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<v Speaker 1>stop is to call your cellular company and just see

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<v Speaker 1>what they say about roaming in China, to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do I have any days included? Don't make the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>I did of leaving my dry box on because I

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<v Speaker 1>racked up an eight hundred dollars bill because it tried

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<v Speaker 1>to upload all of my photos in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's another thing. When you're traveling internationally.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any sort of backup running on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>like a photos program like Amazon Photos or Google Photos

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>or iCloud, make sure that cellular is turned off for

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that sinking, because you do not want it sinking over cellular.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you have it turned on where it's just

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>backing up over Wi Fi. Very important, or you're gonna

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>run through all your data or get a huge bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight to eight rich one on one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about the AT and T data breach how

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<v Speaker 1>it might affect you. Welcome back to rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>It includes a lot of great information, just like I

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<v Speaker 1>share on this show Richontech dot TV. This week, AT

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and T revealed another massive data breach affecting millions of customers.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>AT and T is in the process of notifying about

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten million customers about this new data breach.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>The stolen data includes phone numbers and call and text

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>records from May one, twenty twenty two, to October thirty first,

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. Some data from January twenty twenty three

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was also compromised. This affects both cellular and landline customers,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>including those who used another carrier on AT and t's network.

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Like a cricket so what did they get metadata such

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>as who you called, who you texted, and how long

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you talk to them for. Some of the records also

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>include cell site identification numbers, which might be able to

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>be used to reveal your approximate locations of where you

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>made those calls.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T says they learned of the data breach

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>on April nineteenth, twenty twenty four. They say that the

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>stolen data does not contain the contents of calls or

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the contents of the texts. This is the second security

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>incident for AT and T in twenty twenty four. They

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>had that passcode reset earlier in the year. So AT

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and T says the stolen data is not currently publicly available,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>which means you can't search through it. Lots of thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on this number one. You just have to assume that

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>your data is going to be out there at some point,

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>because we are entering a world where it's not a

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>matter of who might get breached, it's a matter of when. Also,

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you got to be careful about the information that you share.

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I've been watching the documentary on Netflix, the Ashley Madison

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>data breach. That was just devastating to people. Not defending

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>what Ashley Madison was doing. But at the same time,

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven million people that kind of data out there.

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a big deal, and this is just going

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to continue to happen. It's just going to continue to happen.

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Now you can check to see if your data was

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>included in this. AT and T set up a special website.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>You can go to AT and T dot com slash event,

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<v Speaker 1>slash lander, l A n d Er and I checked

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>my account. I got a big green check. Marcus as

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>accounts not affected. Bobo checked his account and it says

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>sure enough, account affected. So you can go to this

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>website ATT dot com slash event slash lander to see

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>if your data was involved in this breach.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the good news is here.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound like they got names, addresses, social Security numbers,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>credit card information. Doesn't sound like they got that. But

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>they did get a lot of call data. So theoretically,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, looking to the most nefarious purpose

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>of this. Someone could theoretically set up a database if

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>this data gets out where you'd be able to search

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and see if someone you know called a phone number

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that you also know. So that's just one way and

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>just on this same note. While we're here surf Shark,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a VPN company. They introduced a new feature

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>called alternative Number. So this is a new tool to

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.720
<v Speaker 1>protect your real phone number from online threats and spam.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>They basically will give you a virtual US based phone

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>number that you can access through the app. You can

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>receive phone calls, you can receive messages, and you can

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>reply to messages with this alternative phone number. And the

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>whole purpose here is to help you safeguard your real

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>phone number from strangers, spam, and untrusted websites. You cannot

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>use this phone number to make outgoing calls or to

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>initiate messages. It's just for incoming and to reply. So

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>why would you want this, Well, you can use it

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>in place of your real phone number anywhere where you

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think your real phone number is necessary. So maybe

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you're signing up for a club card at a grocery store,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>or you're just signing up for you know, online sweepsteakes, whatever,

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 1>you can use this phone number. So right now, it

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 1>only works with US phone numbers. It's anywhere from three

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to five dollars a month. And I'm telling you this

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>idea of using a secondary phone number.

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I do it.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I use my Google Voice number when I sign up

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>for almost anything as sort of a buffer between me

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of these data breaches. Because your real phone

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.280
<v Speaker 1>number is valuable, It's linked to a lot of things,

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think people are just understanding that if they

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>want to protect their privacy, they have to start giving

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>out information that is much much less linked to their

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>real identity. Let's go to Dory in Westlake Village, California. Dory,

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what's your question?

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 10>Yes, I thank you for taking my call. My question

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 10>may be a little funny.

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 12>That Samsung ring you were talking about? Can you wear

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 12>it on your toe?

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Like a toe ring? Interesting question that those rings

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 3>really down match with the rings I always wear in

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 3>my hand.

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<v Speaker 12>But I love the idea of that ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great question, and I totally get it

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>because you know, not everyone would match with these things.

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>So I don't have the information from Samsung specifically, but Aura,

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>who makes a smart ring. They replied in a tweet

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>to someone that asked about this exact same question, and

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they said, we do not recommend wearing the ring on

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a toe because the toe differs from the fingers in

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the pulse signal it gives, so the readings are going

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to differ and they're not going to be as accurate

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>as fingers. So bottom line, you probably could wear it

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>as a toe ring. You're not going to get the

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>right readings. But you know, I just don't think the

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>blood flow to the toe is as pronounced as it

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is to your fingers, because that's an extremity. And Bobo's

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 1>just walking out. He's done, This show is over for him.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Like that question, I thought it was as a it's

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a look, toe rings are a thing. In fact, we

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>were joking at the Samsung event that they might come

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>out with the nose ring.

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 3>That's a smart nose ring. Why not smart ring?

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 13>But the reason is because it doesn't match the jury

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 13>that she already wears.

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, people are particular. When we were looking at

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the rings, they have him in three colors. They've got black, silver,

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and gold, And because my wedding ring is silver, I

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was I like the black the most. It looks the best.

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like a nice matte black. But to me it's like, oh,

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to go silver because it matches my ring. Look,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>people want to match. You gotta Bobo, your your hat

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is matching your shirt? I noticed, are your sneakers matching

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>everything too? What you don't know about Bobo? Yes, he's

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.959
<v Speaker 1>a sneaker head and he comes in here every week

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>with fully matching clothes. His shirt matches, his hat matches

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>his sneakers. And yeah, if I wear my crocs here,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they only match, you know, my cross.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to Mark and Woodland Hills. Mark,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 3>you're on with Writch.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 6>Yes, good afternoon. My problem is is that a lot

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 6>of the subsidies were dropped for telephone, and I only

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 6>had bundled already landline and internet service. Now the landline

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 6>prices are just going out of the roof costs wise.

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 6>But I also recall when I used to have consumer cellular,

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.320
<v Speaker 6>they had a base unit that was that ran on wife.

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 6>I believe it was or a cellular service. But there's

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 6>something similar I'm interested in. It's called Umama, and what

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 6>apparently what it does is it uses your internet and

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 6>I can have all my cordless phones all over the house,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 6>so I don't have to run around to get to

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 6>one of them. And I was wondering if you had

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 6>that or any other alternatives. I've seen all the videos

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 6>on YouTube, but you never know what hucksterism is and

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 6>what's right, So I thought i'd run it by you.

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 6>You're the expert.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. UMA is fantastic. It's been around forever. It works,

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>it does what it says. You buy the unit. The

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>way it works, you plug the unit into your Internet

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and they also actually have a Wi Fi unit at

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this point, so you don't even need to plug it

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>into a physical ethernet jack, although I probably would recommend

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that just for the best signal. But you plug that in.

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a little box and that box takes that Internet

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.359
<v Speaker 1>signal and gives you a phone line. So it's using

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>voiceover IP, which you know, most of the cellular services

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and all of the voice services, almost all of them

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>now are using voiceover IP. You know, the landlines, you know,

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the physical copper cables may not be, but everything else.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 1>If you're getting a line from Spectrum, if you're getting

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a line from your cable company, it's all using voiceover IP.

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>So UMA.

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing about the way they work is that

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you basically buy the device for anywhere from seventy to

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars and then the phone service is free.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>You just have to pay the monthly taxes and fees

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and you can put your phone number or your zip

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>code in online and it will tell you how much

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the taxes and fees are. For where I live, It's

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>under ten dollars a month, so highly recommend it. It

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>will work with your phones. The other thing to look

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>at is called magic Jack.

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 12>This.

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>When I first covered this, I was working at c

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Net decade probably over a decade ago, and I couldn't

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>believe it, Like it's just like I couldn't believe that

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.919
<v Speaker 1>you can get something that turned Internet into a phone line.

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>And of course now it's very common, but this would

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 1>solve your problems if you want a home phone service

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that does not cost as much as getting something from

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 1>the cable company. So again, UMA isom A. Like I said,

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they've been around forever. I personally tested them. I had

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>it in my house for a very long time, and

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it does exactly what it says it does. It's a

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a virtual phone number that basically lets you plug

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in a real phone, so you can go to Walmart,

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you can buy a cordless phone like the old school phones.

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And that little jack, I forget what it's called, like

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the RJ oh gosh, what's a phone jack RJ something

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>r J eleven is that it You plug that in

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<v Speaker 1>to the back of this Uma and now you have

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<v Speaker 1>a real phone line that is all going through the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other one, like I said, magic Jack Vonage

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<v Speaker 1>used to be the third. It does not look like

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<v Speaker 1>they do a consumer product anymore. So those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two I go with Mark, markn Widlin Hills, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. Definitely to go for it all right. Eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight rich one on one oh one more tip wait

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<v Speaker 1>until Amazon Prime Day because the Uma is sold on

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon and it might be on sale on Amazon Prime Day.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got a couple of days to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>burning question about technology, something on your mind. Give me

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<v Speaker 1>a call. The phone line is free, the call is

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<v Speaker 1>toll free. The answer is uh, you know who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not be worth as much may be worth

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<v Speaker 1>the price of the phone call. Who knows you never know?

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Company. Uh, dark patterns? Are you familiar with what

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<v Speaker 1>a dark pattern is? This is pretty much a manipulative,

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<v Speaker 1>manipulative design. And we see this all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>see this all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I download a lot of apps, I sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of websites, and I notice these dark patterns

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<v Speaker 1>almost every single time. And they're just and the FTC

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<v Speaker 1>they support my thoughts that this is happening a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So Actually, the FTC teamed up with a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of international partners to study six hundred and forty two

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<v Speaker 1>websites and mobile apps offering subscription services and guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly seventy six percent of them employed at least one

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<v Speaker 1>possible dark pattern. Sixty seven percent used multiple dark patterns. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's a dark pattern? It's something that makes you do

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<v Speaker 1>something that you wouldn't normally do if you had all

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<v Speaker 1>the information at your disposal. Let me explain the most

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<v Speaker 1>common dark pattern. You are signing up for, or you

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<v Speaker 1>download a new app and it says that screen where

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<v Speaker 1>it says, hey, would you like to sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>a free trial or a subscription, and you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to, You just want to try out the app,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't seem to get past that page. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you look very closely, there's a very faint X

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner that you don't see when you first

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<v Speaker 1>look at that window, and so you think that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to either sign up up for a free trial

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<v Speaker 1>or sign up for a subscription to actually even just

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<v Speaker 1>try out the use of that app.

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<v Speaker 3>But in reality, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Click that little X and deal with that later and

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<v Speaker 1>try the app and see what happens before you sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for anything. That is one dark pattern, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most common I see. So if you're ever signing

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<v Speaker 1>up for an app, and believe me, the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is because I try a lot of apps

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<v Speaker 1>and I feature them on TV and of course here

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio, and people will email me invariably and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Rich, I can't believe you're promoting an app

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<v Speaker 1>that you can only you know you have to sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for it and I said, oh, no, you missed

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<v Speaker 1>the dark pattern. They had a little X that you

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<v Speaker 1>missed during that sign up flow. This happens a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>so the two patterns, and I didn't know they had

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<v Speaker 1>a term for this. The most that they encountered was

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<v Speaker 1>called sneaking practices. This involves hiding or delaying the disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>of information that might affect your purchase decision. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one I just talked about. And then interface interference. This

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<v Speaker 1>is obscuring important information or pre selecting options in a

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<v Speaker 1>frame that steers you towards making a decision that's more

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<v Speaker 1>favorable for the business. So if you're just clicking through

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<v Speaker 1>all the next, next, next, next, next, next, next, all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's pre selected benefits the company. And I

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<v Speaker 1>see this a lot when I'm setting up new phones.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single new phone and almost every single tech device

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<v Speaker 1>that I set up has an option that says, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want us to send diagnostic data back to the

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<v Speaker 1>company about how you use this product?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you don't need to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be their little, you know, feedback

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<v Speaker 1>response person for this stuff. Like you paid for this product,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, should get to use it without having

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<v Speaker 1>to send back exactly how you're using this product. iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>does it, Android does it, Samsung does it?

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<v Speaker 3>They all do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You I always unclick that box because why should I

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<v Speaker 1>send you all this rich data about how I'm using

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<v Speaker 1>this phone? Now, By the way, what are they collecting everything? Everything,

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<v Speaker 1>how you swipe, the time you turn your phone on,

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<v Speaker 1>the time you turn your phone off, when you use

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<v Speaker 1>your phone, when you're not using your phone, how many

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<v Speaker 1>apps you download. Everything's being collected if you're sending back

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<v Speaker 1>that diagnostic data. And of course that box is checked

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<v Speaker 1>by default. In fact, here's another dark pattern. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>setting up a product, it will say accept all. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you press accept all, you think that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to tap yes to all these different things.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not.

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<v Speaker 1>If you tap them individually, you'd notice only the first

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<v Speaker 1>two are required. The rest are optional. So be very

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<v Speaker 1>careful when you download stuff and sign up for stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because you are bombarded with these dark patterns and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Trip people up. Seventy six percent of sites have them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox raising Xbox game Pass prices. So if your kid

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<v Speaker 1>uses this like mine does, Yeah, typically this was seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>bucks a month. Now it's going up to twenty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month for the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>PC Game Pass they're raising that from that's going up

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve dollars a month previously ten. Now the nice

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<v Speaker 1>thing they're doing is introducing a new tier that's cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>than all of these tiers at fifteen dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is called Xbox Game Pass Standard. But what

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing. They're taking away your access to day

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<v Speaker 1>one first party games. What does that mean. The news

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<v Speaker 1>here is that everyone was so excited that the brand

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<v Speaker 1>new Call of Duty was going to be available on

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<v Speaker 1>Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, and everyone was chatting when they

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<v Speaker 1>heard about this. They were tweeting saying, oh, Microsoft is

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<v Speaker 1>so great because they're giving us access to this game

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<v Speaker 1>on this service without raising prices. Well, they did a

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<v Speaker 1>dark pattern. They announced the exciting news a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago that Call of Duty would be available, but

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<v Speaker 1>they held back the price increase until a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later. And so now you get I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just these companies are wild and look, this is just

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<v Speaker 1>the way of the world, folks. We are just paying

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<v Speaker 1>and paying and paying and paying more. Like I say,

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<v Speaker 1>the free ride is over. Those price increases start on

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<v Speaker 1>September twelfth. Eight of eight Rich one O one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the free service that Google is making

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<v Speaker 1>available to everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Rich on tech. Rich Demiro here talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at eight eight eight rich one oh one. That's

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>I see a holding on the lines. We'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to those in just a moment. But first, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime Day tenth and well, i'd say annual, but

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<v Speaker 1>they now do it a couple times a year. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is their tenth Prime Day event. It's happening July

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth and seventeenth. Of course, they're promising millions of deals,

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<v Speaker 1>over five million deals available for Prime members. Remember you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a Prime member to take advantage UH

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<v Speaker 1>savings on all kinds of stuff. To talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke with Deal's expert Trey Bodge. She had some

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<v Speaker 1>great tips on how to maximize your savings. Prime Day obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be happening every year, sometimes twice a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does Amazon do Prime Day?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, Amazon does Prime Day in an effort to create

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<v Speaker 14>their own shopping holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>July.

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<v Speaker 14>Up until ten years ago, in the first Prime Day,

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<v Speaker 14>July was kind of a sleepy time except for the

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<v Speaker 14>July fourth weekend sales. But now, as you see, there's

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<v Speaker 14>so much going on with Amazon Prime Day, and then

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<v Speaker 14>we have Target Circle Week and Walmart Deals Week, and

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<v Speaker 14>the list goes on and on. So Amazon has essentially

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<v Speaker 14>created their own shopping season, and then they do it

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<v Speaker 14>again in October, kicking off the holiday shopping season very early,

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<v Speaker 14>so they're controlling the game here.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think are some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>strategies for finding deals during Prime Day?

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<v Speaker 14>So because we're seeing so many competitive deals around Prime Day,

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<v Speaker 14>I would make sure to look around. You want to

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<v Speaker 14>use tools like Yahoo Shopping or Google Shopping to search

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<v Speaker 14>for the items that you're looking for. Get a sense

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<v Speaker 14>of the landscape of where those items are sold in

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<v Speaker 14>for how much the best deal may be on Amazon

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<v Speaker 14>or it may be elsewhere, so it's always worth taking

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<v Speaker 14>a moment to do that. You also want to pair

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<v Speaker 14>that with using a deal site because often deal sites

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<v Speaker 14>have cash back offers that can be combined with retailer sales.

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<v Speaker 14>So one of my favorites is couponcabin dot com. They

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<v Speaker 14>have cash back offers in the four to eight percent

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<v Speaker 14>off range, and then sometimes they may have coupons that

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<v Speaker 14>can be kind of layered on top of the coupons

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<v Speaker 14>that retailers are offering. So I think that's a really

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<v Speaker 14>good thing to do as well. And then during this

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<v Speaker 14>busy time, you just want to make sure to keep

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<v Speaker 14>an eye on your shopping list and avoid impulse shopping

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<v Speaker 14>because there's so much activity.

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<v Speaker 2>You certainly don't want to be kind.

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<v Speaker 14>Of going willy nilly and buying all sorts of things

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<v Speaker 14>that you might rec Brett later.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the other retailers, So this this event sort

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<v Speaker 1>of has like a halo effect where like Target gets

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<v Speaker 1>in on it and Walmart gets in on it. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about that a little bit? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if the price is a good price at Amazon, will

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<v Speaker 1>be the same price at Target.

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<v Speaker 14>Per se it may be or it may be better,

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<v Speaker 14>or it may not be as good. So it's really

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<v Speaker 14>important to look around now. If you are planning to

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<v Speaker 14>shop on Amazon Prime Day, you will find millions of

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<v Speaker 14>deals across thirty five categories and Amazon specifically. A good

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<v Speaker 14>tool to use is Camel Camel camel or their app

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 14>is called the Camelizer. I believe that's a good place

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<v Speaker 14>to get a sense of what the prices are. What

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<v Speaker 14>the prices were, you can set price alerts there and

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<v Speaker 14>then pair that with the other efforts that you're making

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<v Speaker 14>on Amazon to look for sales like they have. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>you can set up wish lists and look for discounts

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 14>on their app. And so there are lots of ways

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<v Speaker 14>to save around Amazon Prime Day.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think some of the biggest categories are

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<v Speaker 1>that people should be looking at shopping for.

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<v Speaker 14>So on Amazon Prime Day, we've become accustomed to deals

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 14>from Amazon's proprietary brands, and so your kindle, your fire,

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 14>your ring, all of those items will be deeply discounted.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see lots of bundling.

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<v Speaker 14>So maybe you can get a couple of echoes, for example,

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 14>or you can get a fireTV and a fireTV stick

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 14>or things like that. So I would look for those

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.839
<v Speaker 14>bundles to take advantage of. You do have to be

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 14>an Amazon Prime member in order to enjoy these deals,

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<v Speaker 14>So as you're shopping, look for those Amazon branded items,

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 14>but then also look at other brands. We will see

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 14>lots of deals on especially on small home appliances like

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 14>your robotic vacuum or your air fryer. Things like that

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 14>will be discounted from multiple brands. So while you're within

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 14>the Amazon ecosystem, make sure to shop around and look

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<v Speaker 14>at different brands, read the reviews, and then you're making

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<v Speaker 14>a smart decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You're ready to click buy.

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<v Speaker 1>How does Prime Day compare to something like a Cyber

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<v Speaker 1>Monday or a Black Friday.

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<v Speaker 14>It depends, and so you know, it depends on how

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<v Speaker 14>competitive the landscape is. Amazon tends to discount aggressively in

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<v Speaker 14>both places. You know, I think around Black Friday Cyber Monday,

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<v Speaker 14>you can sometimes expect deeper discounts because retailers are kind

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<v Speaker 14>of entering the finish line for their annual sales, and

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<v Speaker 14>so if they're having a great year, they may pull

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<v Speaker 14>back on the discounts. If they're not having a great year,

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<v Speaker 14>those discounts will be deeper. So it really depends on

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<v Speaker 14>what's going on in the in the climate at the moment.

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<v Speaker 14>Make a list of the things that you need, and

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<v Speaker 14>make a list of the things that you use regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's an interesting point.

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<v Speaker 14>On Amazon Prime Day, sometimes they get kind of a

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<v Speaker 14>bad rap because you can find discounts on paper towels,

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 14>but frankly, we all use paper towels, and so there's

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<v Speaker 14>nothing wrong with saving on those paper towels on Amazon

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<v Speaker 14>Prime Day. So I do like to have a list

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<v Speaker 14>of sort of those aspirational itea that I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 14>deals on, and then my regular go to grooming products

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<v Speaker 14>and paper products, because if I can save on Amazon

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<v Speaker 14>Prime Day, why wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I any other tools or tips or tricks that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to share that I haven't asked about.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, so Amazon has a bunch of different ways that

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<v Speaker 14>you can save, and so I do think utilizing the

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<v Speaker 14>Amazon app on Amazon Prime Day is a good idea

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<v Speaker 14>because there are a few more features on the app

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<v Speaker 14>that you can use to be alerted to available sales

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<v Speaker 14>on the items that you've added to your lists. For example,

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<v Speaker 14>you can use Alexa to let you know if something

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<v Speaker 14>that you want is on sale. And then I would

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<v Speaker 14>also say, you know, utilize all the tools that Amazon

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<v Speaker 14>is telling you about. They may not be telling people

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 14>like me about these things just yet, but as Amazon

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<v Speaker 14>Prime Day of rives, there might be maybe extra features

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<v Speaker 14>that you should know about. It is a way to

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<v Speaker 14>save on those items I know there is a new one,

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 14>the Invite only that I mentioned. That's something that you

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<v Speaker 14>can click on and close to the shopping car and

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<v Speaker 14>then be randomly selected to be notified of a very

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.800
<v Speaker 14>deep discount of an item. And then of course we

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 14>have the Lightning deals as well, so we'll see some

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 14>of that stuff happening on Amazon Prime Day as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Amazon Prime Day is really to sell Prime memberships.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can get a thirty eight free trial,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you think of the value of an

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime membership? Is it still sort of like the

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<v Speaker 1>golden standard of memberships.

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<v Speaker 14>It's an interesting time right now because Amazon Prime is

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<v Speaker 14>not the only membership out there. So we have Target

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<v Speaker 14>Circle three sixty, we have Walmart Plus, and so as

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<v Speaker 14>a shopper, it's really important for you to take a

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 14>look at which platform or retailer you use the most

0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:44.280
<v Speaker 14>and then consider getting that membership, and the membership on

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<v Speaker 14>Amazon in particular.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a member.

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<v Speaker 14>I find it to be worthwhile because I shop on

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<v Speaker 14>Amazon very frequently. I get cash back at Whole Foods,

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<v Speaker 14>and then there's the free streaming music, the movies, the

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 14>free Kindle book every month, and so if you are

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<v Speaker 14>a user of some or all of those benefits that

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<v Speaker 14>that membership can really pay off.

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<v Speaker 2>But in my opinion, you shouldn't have more than one

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<v Speaker 2>of those retail memberships.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, pick the one that serves you the best,

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<v Speaker 14>and stick with that and shop with that retailer regularly

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<v Speaker 14>to get the best bang for your bock out of

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<v Speaker 14>that annual membership fee.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Once again, that was Trey Bodge shopping expert

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<v Speaker 1>sharing tips to maximize this year's Amazon Prime Day. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put a link to her website on mine. Just go

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<v Speaker 1>to Rich on tech dot TV hit the light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>So my advice for Prime Day is the same every

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<v Speaker 1>single year. Start looking for the things you want now,

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<v Speaker 1>add them to your shopping car, and then when Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Day happens on July sixteenth and seventeenth, check your shopping

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<v Speaker 1>car or your saved items to see if any of

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<v Speaker 1>them dropped in price, and then you can purchase them.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of just looking on the website, like she said,

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<v Speaker 1>just searching for stuff to spend money on, this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the re the reverse way of doing it. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll notice that things on Amazon when they are on

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Day, they will have a little banner. Next to

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<v Speaker 1>the price, it might say something like limited time deal

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<v Speaker 1>or with Prime or lightning deal. So that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell when something's on sale. I already made my

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<v Speaker 1>first purchase. I bought the new Amazon Echo spot it's

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<v Speaker 1>typically eighty bucks. It was on sale for forty five

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<v Speaker 1>through Prime Day, and I put a list. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>went through because Amazon has not said what all the

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<v Speaker 1>deals are going to be, but they put out like

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<v Speaker 1>a release that says all the brands and stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>will be on sale. So what I did was I

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<v Speaker 1>made it easy for you. I went through and I

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<v Speaker 1>linked up every single brand on my website. So I

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<v Speaker 1>made this page that says Amazon Prime Day twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four top brands to watch for deals. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>scroll down, you'll see all my tips that I just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can see the different things that will be

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<v Speaker 1>on sale already announced that you can just click and

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<v Speaker 1>find that device or product or whatever, including the Ring,

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<v Speaker 1>Spotlight Cams, Eero, Blank, fireTV, Echo, what else, Rumbas, Sony headphones,

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<v Speaker 1>all Birds, and even.

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<v Speaker 3>Cosmetics and things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put all those links on my website rich

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<v Speaker 1>on tech dot tv. So check it out if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a headstart on Prime Day coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about the Google service that used to

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<v Speaker 1>cost money. Now they're making it free and it can

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<v Speaker 1>help protect your privacy. This is rich on Tech. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with you, talking technology at Triple eight Rich one oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sherry writes in Hello Rich, I love listening to your

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<v Speaker 1>program on KFI. I learned something every time. My father

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<v Speaker 1>is nearly blind due to macular degeneration. He's ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>but honestly very sharp and social.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to find a cell phone for him

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<v Speaker 1>to operate by voice. Is there such a thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's obviously old school he's not interested in Alexa or

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<v Speaker 1>any devices that listen or spy on him. Any recommendations

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<v Speaker 1>you might have, yes, I have a great recommendation. The

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<v Speaker 1>only issue is it's pricey, but it is perfect and

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<v Speaker 1>it's exactly what you're looking for. It is a company

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<v Speaker 1>called blind Shell B l I N D S H

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<v Speaker 1>E l L. And they make a smartphone that is

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for the visually impaired and it is fantastic. I

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<v Speaker 1>played with it at the Seasun Assist of Tech conference

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<v Speaker 1>and it is very simple to use. It speaks everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you do. It speaks everything on the screen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a nice, bold, big screen. It's got nice easy

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<v Speaker 1>to use physical buttons, so it's got the keypad so

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually type phone numbers on here and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess text as well, but you can also use voice

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<v Speaker 1>to text if you need to.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is it's five hundred and twenty nine dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>so I get it. That's expensive, but it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to solve the problem. I think your dat is worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that this would be a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to make him feel like he can use this phone

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<v Speaker 1>to its maximum and not have any issues. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing you could do is just get a flip phone

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<v Speaker 1>something simple. Did you say you wanted voice, Yeah, operate

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<v Speaker 1>by voice. So I mean the flip phones is they're

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<v Speaker 1>not really going to have the voice operation. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing you might be able to do is get a

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung device and they've got something called easy Mode. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna make the phone easier. It's got a built

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<v Speaker 1>in magnifier. The iPhone also has a lot of accessibility features,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not I mean that that might be too

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<v Speaker 1>much horsepower for what you're looking at. I really do

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<v Speaker 1>think the blind Shehell is going to be the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Sadly, this company does have a cheaper phone

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<v Speaker 1>that they just introduced, like a lesser version of the Classic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the Classic LTE that does not look like

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<v Speaker 1>it's available in the United States, sadly, So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. The other thing you could do

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<v Speaker 1>is you could go on Amazon and just look for

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<v Speaker 1>a simple, you know, smartphone that might be good for

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<v Speaker 1>your father. There they do have a couple of smartphones

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<v Speaker 1>that are specifically for senior citizens. So just be aware

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to make sure that whatever service you

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<v Speaker 1>get is going to work with that. So for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>like Lively, that's a big company that sells a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of phones under the Jitterbug name. That is a senior

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<v Speaker 1>phone and you have to use their plan with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the phones are unlocked. You can put in

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<v Speaker 1>any plan. So those are my recommendations. Check them out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that blind show would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe wait for a sale or discount on it to

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<v Speaker 1>get it past that high price tag there. Google is

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<v Speaker 1>expanding this dark web feature. In fact, as I mentioned this,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got an email alert from Google about my

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<v Speaker 1>information being on the dark web. You have new information,

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<v Speaker 1>new personal information on the dark web, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>my phone number was involved in a data breach and

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<v Speaker 1>my cell phone number is now available online for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to find. Thank you for the app that I actually

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<v Speaker 1>love that it's involved in. So what is Google doing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from a service called dark Web Report, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is excellent. It will tell you if your social

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<v Speaker 1>Security number, if your date of birth, if your address

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<v Speaker 1>is found online somewhere, and there's not much you can

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<v Speaker 1>do about it, because the problem is when your information

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<v Speaker 1>is out there on the dark web, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>of taking it back. But at least, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what's out there, you can be ready for what might happen,

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<v Speaker 1>which is someone opening up an account in your name,

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<v Speaker 1>someone spamming you, someone using your phone number, someone using

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<v Speaker 1>your address. So this was something that was previously only

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<v Speaker 1>available to paying subscribers of Google One. Now they are

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<v Speaker 1>making it available to everyone for free. This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen later this month. Highly highly recommend that you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for it. So this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of their results about you. So it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit confusing, but they're pretty much the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>Google results about you, well, I guess they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. Results about you. Google, if you sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for it, will find your personal contact information in Google

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<v Speaker 1>search results. So if your phone number shows up on

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<v Speaker 1>one of those like spoke Yo or people find heer websites,

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<v Speaker 1>Google will say, hey, we found your phone number on

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<v Speaker 1>this website. Do you want us to take that off

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<v Speaker 1>of search results? So when someone's searching for you, it

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<v Speaker 1>will not show hey, we can find rich Damiro's phone

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<v Speaker 1>number on this website. And you click through that website

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's a whole thing to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get the phone number. But Google will take down that

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<v Speaker 1>search result for you. And so this is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>been free. I've been recommending it for years. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really useful thing if you want to kind of tame

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<v Speaker 1>the information that's out there about you on the open web.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not take down the original website, It does

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<v Speaker 1>not take down your information from Spokyo or people Finder,

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<v Speaker 1>all these other you know, data brokers out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does take down that search result. And what do

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<v Speaker 1>most people do. They're just looking at search results trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find information. Now, with this Dark Web report, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>also get that information about your your per details on

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<v Speaker 1>the dark web. It's not going to remove them, it can't,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least you'll know that it's out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>again you can be ready for the ramifications of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to sign up for this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put the link on the website rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot tv and you can go to the light Bulb

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<v Speaker 1>to get the information about it. At least start with

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<v Speaker 1>the results about you on Google. You sign up for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then later this month you'll get the dark web

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<v Speaker 1>information as well. Really really handy. I am so happy

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<v Speaker 1>that Google is making that available to everyone for free.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we have time for this, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to PAM and venture of PAM, can you

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<v Speaker 1>say your question about thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just have an iPhone six.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know if it's outa day.

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<v Speaker 10>It has an episode of software on it of seventeen

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<v Speaker 10>point five.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen point five, so you're still up to date at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. The problem is, I don't think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be supported with iOS eighteen. So iOS eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>starts with the iPhone ten are and up? Uh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you're you have the which.

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<v Speaker 3>Software do you have on there? It's an iPhone and

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<v Speaker 3>you said you have iOS.

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<v Speaker 10>What seventeen point five point one.

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<v Speaker 1>On the on the iPhone six s Yeah, huh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not aware that that was up to date

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<v Speaker 1>at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see. So iOS seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, if it's supported and you're getting those updates, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's going to be supported with

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<v Speaker 1>the next one. I would plan for a new phone,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would do, because you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get iOS eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to get this.

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<v Speaker 1>The uh the security updates, and that's the important part.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would any recommendation, I would just get the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a newer model.

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<v Speaker 3>When they uh. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you talking technology. I love that you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something smart for yourself and listening to this show because

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<v Speaker 1>this is the information you need to know about how

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<v Speaker 1>to protect yourself online, how to make sure you're not

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<v Speaker 1>being scammed, how not to overspend on Amazon Prime Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I noticed some of us will my wife. I

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<v Speaker 1>was out in Paris and my wife's like, did you

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<v Speaker 1>order a an echo spot from Amazon? I said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I already I ordered that sight. On scene they announced it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this new Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically a new like alarm clock and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of cool because it's a speaker, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also is Alexa enabled, uh, and it's got a little

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<v Speaker 1>display on it so it's colorful. It's got like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, customized clock faces. You can choose from six

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<v Speaker 1>different colors orange, violet, magenta, lime, teal, and blue. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see the weather, the song that's playing, or the

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<v Speaker 1>whatever's playing. You can set alarm play music. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>four new custom alarm sounds, Aurora, Daybreak, Endeavor and flutter

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<v Speaker 1>and you can tap this thing to turn it off

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<v Speaker 1>for a snooze. It it's usually eighty bucks. It's forty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars for Prime members right now. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was cool. I just thought it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of nice to have. So that's the Echo Spot. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not opened it yet, so I'm curious if they're

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<v Speaker 1>What I think Amazon should have done is put a

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<v Speaker 1>USB in the back so you can plug in your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if they did that. So uh, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for listening. Eighty to eight Rich one oh one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>The website rich on tech dot TV. I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you are going for the Google Dark Web information.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way to find that on the website go

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<v Speaker 1>to the website. Up at the top. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb. If you tap that light bulb, it brings

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<v Speaker 1>you to what's called the show wiki, so you know Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep basically a show wiki for every episode that

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever done. So this is show number eighty. You

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<v Speaker 1>tap that, it should bring you right to the Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tap and just see where it brings you. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not saying the wrong thing here. If you

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<v Speaker 1>tap that little light bulb, it will bring you to

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it'll bring you right to the list of

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<v Speaker 1>every single show. So if you tap show number eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see all the show notes. Everything I've mentioned is

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<v Speaker 1>linked up there, and you can see at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>it says Google is making its Dark Web monitoring available

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<v Speaker 1>to all. And so you can click that and get

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<v Speaker 1>more information about that, read about it, sign up for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now you can't sign up for the Dark

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<v Speaker 1>Web unless you are paying member, but you can start

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<v Speaker 1>with the feature I talked about, the results about you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then dark Web will come later this month. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got all that. Oh I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell a funny story. So today I'm texting with my

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<v Speaker 1>friend this morning, as we typically do on Saturday mornings,

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson Graham, friend of the show. He writes a great newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>He does all kind of you know, you worked for

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today forever writing a column there, and now he

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<v Speaker 1>is on his own doing photo walks TV. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we both have newsletters on our substacks, and so Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>morning we usually send them out and we always compare notes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're texting this morning and I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>a second, are you on an iPhone right now? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we are texting the way you would text on I

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<v Speaker 1>message where I can see when he's typing. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see when my messages are delivered. And he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running iOS eighteen. I said, you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me. This is my first RCS text messaging ever

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<v Speaker 1>in my life with an iPhone person.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It means that finally, after many many years of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole divide of iPhone versus Android when it comes to messaging,

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<v Speaker 1>come September when everyone finally gets the iOS update. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>he is probably running a beta update. Then there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a public beta coming out any day now, probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know soon, because they said it's gonna be sometime

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<v Speaker 1>in July. I don't recommend you install that on your

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<v Speaker 1>primary phone though, unless you are a tinkerer or you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing with technology, because you really can't

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<v Speaker 1>go back. So once you get that, it's very tough

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<v Speaker 1>to roll back to a standard, you know, final software release.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait until September. But come September, you will finally

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<v Speaker 1>be able to text message between iPhone and Android in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that everyone can enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>The same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see when they're typing, you can see when

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<v Speaker 1>your messages are delivered, and most importantly, you can send

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<v Speaker 1>photos and videos that actually look high quality between an

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<v Speaker 1>Android and an iPhone. It's called RCS Rich Communications Services.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a standard that Apple has not adopted until now.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're Android to Android, you're already enjoying this.

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<v Speaker 1>If your iPhone to iPhone, you're already enjoying this. But finally,

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<v Speaker 1>come September, iPhone to Android, Android to iPhone, text messaging

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<v Speaker 1>will finally finally get better. And I'm telling you it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a weight was lifted this morning as I

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<v Speaker 1>just smiled knowing that text messaging is finally better. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Clark in Lancaster, California. Clark, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, Rich, thanks for listening to this call.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I've got a question about.

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<v Speaker 12>My home Wi Fi system. I wonder if there is

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<v Speaker 12>an easy way for a non technical person to troubleshoot.

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<v Speaker 1>And see if.

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<v Speaker 12>An intermittent problem with Wi Fi is a problem with

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<v Speaker 12>my router.

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<v Speaker 10>My WiFi router.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, your your your signal to us is pretty bad,

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<v Speaker 1>so I may have to put you on hold. Here

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<v Speaker 1>but what is specifically going wrong, like is it not

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<v Speaker 1>working in certain places?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it not fast?

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<v Speaker 12>It seems to be up and down. It's intermittent. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 12>I get the full mighte of what I'm paying for

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<v Speaker 12>on my uh my uh internet from spectrum and other

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<v Speaker 12>kinds of drops down to half that, and sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 12>almost non existent. And like I said, it's intermitt and

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<v Speaker 12>I can go days or weeks with no problem in them.

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<v Speaker 12>Like today it seems to be up and down. And

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<v Speaker 12>as you're saying, we've got a bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Call, yeah, with my.

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<v Speaker 12>Wife earlier and she complained that actually had to hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So so a couple of things. So first off,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put you on hold just because the

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<v Speaker 1>interference there, So it sounds like there's something that's interfere

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<v Speaker 1>with your Wi Fi. Now, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>were on a Wi Fi call with me, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long time since I actually heard interference on

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<v Speaker 1>a cell call because everything's digital these days, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>really no more static. I don't know if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, when you make a call on

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<v Speaker 1>an analog cell phone. Back in the day everything was analog,

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<v Speaker 1>there would actually be static. You would somehow you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hear the person through static, and nowadays you either hear

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<v Speaker 1>the person or you don't, or it drops out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's all digital. So number one, it sounds like something

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<v Speaker 1>is interfering with your Wi Fi. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of devices in the home that can do that, anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's putting out a frequency, like a microwave or a TV.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your router is not in a central location,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I would do. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have it in a cabinet, or if you have it

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<v Speaker 1>behind your TV, get that bad boy out into the

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<v Speaker 1>open so that it can spread its wings and fly.

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<v Speaker 1>That signal needs to make its way around your house.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's constricted in some way by a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of furniture or a wall, or it's in a corner,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody puts baby in a corner. Uh, you gotta you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put this thing out in the open, right And

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, I love when I get Bobo on a

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<v Speaker 1>reference when he's just sitting there, you know, doing his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he liked that one. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with the dirty dancing household as I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did. Yeah, that was that was big back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so central location number one, get it off

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<v Speaker 1>the floor, don't you know the the the signal for

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi emanates out of your router in a doughnut shape,

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<v Speaker 1>So think about that as those waves are sort of

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<v Speaker 1>making their way throughout your house, So you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the least number of obstructions from that signal, and

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<v Speaker 1>again keep it away from electronics. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a microwave going on, or a TV or any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like other device near your router, that can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>impede it the way to try shoot And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that your speed is sometimes not as good, so typically

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<v Speaker 1>the speed that you're going to get over Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be about half of what you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting wired. So if your connection is three hundred through

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<v Speaker 1>Spectrum or whoever your provider is that is coming into

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<v Speaker 1>your router, your WiFi is probably only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty when it's actually making its way to your device.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason is just it's not a perfect system.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I would do is I would plug in

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<v Speaker 1>your computer into your actual router, your modem, your router,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and I would test the speed wired

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer. Go to a website like fast dot

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<v Speaker 1>com or speed test dot net and see what your

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<v Speaker 1>speed is and also check out the latency. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>also some diagnostics on there that can give you an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of if your signal is okay, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have a wire or something that's freight or

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<v Speaker 1>you might you know, chipmunk or something might have We

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<v Speaker 1>have chipmunks California laying caster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we do, Okay, we have chipmunks, maybe more like one.

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<v Speaker 1>Are those things called a possum, you know, the things

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<v Speaker 1>with like the really sharp teeth. Maybe they ate through

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<v Speaker 1>the wires, you know. My point is all the yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of rodent rap, you know whatever. You check

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<v Speaker 1>for those things because that can all be affecting your

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<v Speaker 1>signal and if none of that is working. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also get an app, a Wi Fi analyzer app, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on Android, I don't think they have these

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<v Speaker 1>for iPhone, but a Wi Fi Analyzer app you can

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<v Speaker 1>download to an Android device and you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>walk around the house and see what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>your signal that way. So those are just a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that you can troubleshoot. If you want.

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<v Speaker 1>You can call your cable company or whatever. They may

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<v Speaker 1>charge you, but you can say, hey, look my signal's

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<v Speaker 1>just not working as well as it should be, and

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<v Speaker 1>they may come out and help you troubleshoot, but they

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<v Speaker 1>probably will charge you for that because they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a test from their end saying nope, we're giving

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<v Speaker 1>you the speed that you're paying for and it's on

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<v Speaker 1>your end. So that's another way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Clark, those are some of the suggestions. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the call today, appreciate it. Eighty eight rich one O

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<v Speaker 1>one eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we are going to talk to the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the Oco app. This is to help the visually

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<v Speaker 1>impaired safely cross streets. Plus, I'm gonna tell you Spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>is raising their cable and TV prices.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you by how much.

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<v Speaker 1>And Google Maps gets a feature that can help you

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a ticket for speeding. This is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. One of my all

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<v Speaker 1>time favorite wedding songs. Nothing says a good wedding like

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<v Speaker 1>this song. Hey oh, if you're listening on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's September by Earth Wind and Fire. Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have a funny story about this song. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Wind and Fire come to KTLA for a segment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love this song, and so I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when in my life did I ever think I would

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<v Speaker 1>be face to face with the guys from earth Wind

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<v Speaker 1>and Fire?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like never?

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<v Speaker 1>But we have this restaurant in Los Angeles called earth

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<v Speaker 1>Wind and Flower in West Los Angeles. It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>an Italian restaurant, and it's just a play on words, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm like, you know what I got to

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<v Speaker 1>ask these guys. So I go up to the guy

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<v Speaker 1>from earth Wind and Fire. I'm like, Hey, are you

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<v Speaker 1>aware of the restaurant called earth Wind and Flower? And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, I've heard of it. I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was so funny because like, I don't know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a restaurant that plays on your name of

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<v Speaker 1>your band. Isn't that a lawsuit? Kinder n you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could have that? I mean I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a lawsuit. And also it's been around forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Changed my name to Demiro Rich DeMuro. This restaurant has

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<v Speaker 1>been around forever. Like I'm talking, it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>thirty oh thirty five years there it is anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought that was funny. Like the guy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looked at me, like, really, you're asking me this, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why not. It's so funny. Like working at

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<v Speaker 1>kat La, you know, where we do a news you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a morning news program, and there's always celebrities coming through,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of them are pretty guarded, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always moments when you can just kind of talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them whatever. And I've had more cool like oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I can't believe I am coming face to

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<v Speaker 1>face with this person who I watched their show when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, or they sing a song that

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<v Speaker 1>I like, or it's just amazing that you meet these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And most of them, I will tell you most people

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot more shy than you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Not shy, but more like introverted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you think just because you're a celebrity, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there telling jokes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not bubba.

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<v Speaker 11>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to say something that was kind of same thing.

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<v Speaker 13>It's still weird to me being friends with Stevie Wonder

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<v Speaker 13>and I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Text him that's amazing. Now, that is the weirdest thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he told me. I thought he was joking.

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<v Speaker 3>What a text? Yeah, he always shows you like text

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<v Speaker 3>me before you call.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave you his burner number. He's like, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember this number off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 10>Let me look at it.

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<v Speaker 13>But no, it's weird because you text him and he'll

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<v Speaker 13>literally you get a text backer he'll just call you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>My most LA story about that is I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie uh Zoolander two, but I wasn't in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't make the cut, but I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a small like news person role that I

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<v Speaker 1>shot for the movie, and I didn't. I didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>the final cut. They ended up using someone else. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still recorded it all and everything check still got

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<v Speaker 1>a check. And the best part was I got a

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<v Speaker 1>text message from and this only in LA. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a text message on my phone that says, HI, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Blah Blah Blah's name, Ben Stiller's assistant.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben would like to go over the lines with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a moment?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, only in Los Angeles, you get a text

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<v Speaker 1>message like this, I screenshot it. I saved it forever

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<v Speaker 1>and I will never forget. On the phone call with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Stiller, like I've who am I Rich Demiro speaking

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben Stiller and he's just sitting there telling me

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<v Speaker 1>how he, you know, his thought for like the person

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<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. And clearly it didn't work because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I wasn't good enough. But anyway, I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was so funny. It's just these la things.

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<v Speaker 1>I had another point that I was gonna make and

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<v Speaker 1>now I forgot. But that's okay, you know what, It's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. Let's see a spectrum I was gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about. This Spectrum is raising prices for cable TV

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<v Speaker 1>and Internet. This of course depends on where you are

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<v Speaker 1>on you know how much it's going up. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is cord Cutter's News reporting that TV prices

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<v Speaker 1>are raising by three dollars in certain states. Internet based

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<v Speaker 1>prices will increase by three to four dollars depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the plan. Cost of renting your cable box will go

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<v Speaker 1>up by a dollar a month, and Spectrum says rising

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<v Speaker 1>programming call that's why they're passing along these increases. So

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<v Speaker 1>number one, I would check to see if your prices

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<v Speaker 1>are going up for ninety nine point nine percent of you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say what can you do. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just another price increase, just add it to the list

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<v Speaker 1>of all the other things that have gone up. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get a little bit more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>angry about this and do something about it, there are

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<v Speaker 1>things you can switch to. You can switch to a

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<v Speaker 1>streaming service like a DirecTV stream, Fubo, Hulu, Live TV, Filo,

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<v Speaker 1>Sling TV, and YouTube TV. Those are all options. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is if you are watching cable TV and you

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<v Speaker 1>like cable TV, it's all pretty expensive now. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these smaller services, like a Sling TV or a Filo

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<v Speaker 1>or a Friendly TV, they ditch the sports, they ditch

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<v Speaker 1>the news, and you can pay a little bit less.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want stuff like your sports and your news,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be paying for it. Like direct TV stream

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<v Speaker 1>is just the same price as having cable YouTube TV

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<v Speaker 1>is just the same price. The only slight difference is

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<v Speaker 1>that you can kind of pause it and restart your

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<v Speaker 1>membership at will versus spectrum. You know, you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>call them up and say, hey, I want to pause.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe you can, but I don't think you can.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot easier to kind of pause and

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<v Speaker 1>decide when you want to pay for these things versus

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<v Speaker 1>having a traditional cable company. When it comes to internet,

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<v Speaker 1>you can check out five G Home Internet. Verizon, t Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>AT and t All offer five G wireless home Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be a way to save on your internet costs.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight to eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to the founder of the o

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<v Speaker 1>co app, which helps the visually impaired safely cross streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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<v Speaker 1>tech with you. Recently, I was in Cooper Tino for

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<v Speaker 1>Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. While I was there, I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>with a developer who's making waves inaccessible technology. Willem van

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<v Speaker 1>Demrop is based in Belgium and is co founder of Eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>They make an app called Oco. This won an Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Design Award for Inclusivity.

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<v Speaker 3>OCO. That's Oko uses.

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<v Speaker 1>AI and the iPhone's camera to help visually impaired people

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<v Speaker 1>navigate streets and crosswalks safely. In our conversation, Wilhelm shared

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<v Speaker 1>insights about this groundbreaking technology and his journey as a developer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>So, basically, the Oco application uses artificial intelligence and a

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<v Speaker 11>back camera of the phone to recognize the walk and

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<v Speaker 11>the don't walk signal for blind and vision impaired people,

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<v Speaker 11>and then bring that information back to you with vibrations

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<v Speaker 11>and sounds. And then now, especially for dubbed up, we're

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<v Speaker 11>actually launching a completely new version where we're also building

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<v Speaker 11>up Apple Maps basically and adding more information on that

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<v Speaker 11>combined with that artificial intelligence, so basically helping blind and

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<v Speaker 11>vision impaired people to safely ride from A to B

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<v Speaker 11>with that pedestrian navigation and also that pedestrian signal detection

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<v Speaker 11>that we have originally. So it's a whole new, brand

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<v Speaker 11>new version.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the app. Oh wow, And what spent What was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like the inspiration behind the app?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, So myself and my two co founders were AI

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<v Speaker 11>engineers by trade. I used to work on medical computer vision,

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<v Speaker 11>my co founder autuonnel driving trains, and a third co

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<v Speaker 11>founder as well on computer vision AI. And we were

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<v Speaker 11>talking with a mutual friend of us who is officially impaired,

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<v Speaker 11>and he told us about the biggest challenges that he

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<v Speaker 11>had outdoors, and we just figured, well, hey, if a

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<v Speaker 11>tes i can do it on the highway, why we

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<v Speaker 11>do it for people on the sidewalk, and then we

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<v Speaker 11>started building a hecky wearable device with lots of wires

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<v Speaker 11>sticking out of it a camera. But we quickly realized

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<v Speaker 11>if we want to make it affordable and scalable so

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<v Speaker 11>that it works for everyone, we need to be able

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<v Speaker 11>to optimize the AI so that it runs locally on

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<v Speaker 11>the phone that they already own. And so the moment

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<v Speaker 11>that we were able to do that, we could our

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<v Speaker 11>jobs and started full time.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And the beauty of the app is the simplicity of

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<v Speaker 1>it that it just uses the software and sensors on

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, and so with that simplicity, it's pretty incredible

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<v Speaker 1>what it's been able to do.

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<v Speaker 3>What has been the reaction to this app, It's.

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<v Speaker 11>Been pretty pretty amazing so far.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 11>For example, I have this one user who told me,

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<v Speaker 11>like beforehand, I used to not be able to reach

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<v Speaker 11>this farmer's market in this part of town. It was

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<v Speaker 11>really like a lucked out zone, almost like in a

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<v Speaker 11>video game. And now because of your app, I just

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<v Speaker 11>am able to unlock this part of town, go to

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<v Speaker 11>the farmer's market, and are able to reach all of

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<v Speaker 11>those destinations. Other people just say without the app, I

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<v Speaker 11>can't cross anymore. So it's really amazing to see that

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<v Speaker 11>we want to provide you with so much more information

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<v Speaker 11>and we want to help you create that independence sometimes.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, it's so crucial to find that it can

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<v Speaker 11>help at these super difficult intersections and just make it

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<v Speaker 11>so much easier for some people.

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<v Speaker 1>So what goes into programming an app like this to

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<v Speaker 1>work across you know, different languages, different places, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different types of walk signals?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you do all that? Yeah, so quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 11>Although it's quite simple, it's a very difficult application to build.

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<v Speaker 11>It's building on computer vision, and it needs to be

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<v Speaker 11>super stable and needs to make sure, of course that

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<v Speaker 11>it's safe to use. So we start out by capturing

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of data ourselves. So that's the rain, the sun, snow,

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<v Speaker 11>all icy conditions, every scenario that you can imagine, and

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<v Speaker 11>we build an AI model based on that, and then

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<v Speaker 11>we optimize it so that it runs on the devices

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<v Speaker 11>that they already own. Of course, the entire world has

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<v Speaker 11>pretty similar production signals except for the US and ken

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<v Speaker 11>really yeah, so that's when when we started expanding here.

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<v Speaker 11>We needed to travel a bit here to capture a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of data here. To make sure that the algorithm

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<v Speaker 11>is very powerful here as well. And then now, of

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<v Speaker 11>course as people are using it, we're constantly gathering imaging

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<v Speaker 11>information to maintain that algorithm to make sure that it

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<v Speaker 11>stays performing.

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<v Speaker 1>What's different about the US with respect to our signals.

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<v Speaker 11>Here in the US it's a red hand which is

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<v Speaker 11>the don't walk signal, and then a white walking man

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<v Speaker 11>which is a walk signal. In Europe, Japan or similar places,

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<v Speaker 11>it's just like a red guy which is don't walk,

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<v Speaker 11>and then a green walking man which is the walk signal,

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<v Speaker 11>and they're on top of each other. Is instead of

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<v Speaker 11>one square pedession signal, So it's just like a whole

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<v Speaker 11>different few and different colors, which the AI needs to.

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<v Speaker 3>Learn of course, and how accurate is the app.

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<v Speaker 11>We've helped cross more than three million streets now we

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<v Speaker 11>haven't had any complaints, so we know that there's of course,

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<v Speaker 11>there's so many safety buffers in place to make sure

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<v Speaker 11>that it's not saying that wrong pedession signal. But very

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<v Speaker 11>important is that it's another tool in the toolbox for

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<v Speaker 11>so many binea visually impaired people. They are very independent,

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<v Speaker 11>then they have so many tools at their disposal.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just trying to bring back more information to the user.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is WWDC.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where developers come to kind of learn about

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<v Speaker 1>the tools available to them. So what developer tools are

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<v Speaker 1>you taking advantage of on the iPhone that enables this app?

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<v Speaker 11>So of course the COREML is a big aspect of

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<v Speaker 11>it is that the possibility to run complex AI locally

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<v Speaker 11>on the device that they already own. But now of

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<v Speaker 11>course we're building on met Kit, but also voiceover and

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<v Speaker 11>dynamic typing. Blindness is a spectrum, so that means that

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<v Speaker 11>some people want to see the phone and have it

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<v Speaker 11>super and large information, but we are able to make

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<v Speaker 11>sure that the app really supports all that kind of information,

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<v Speaker 11>all that sooming and I've been and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>How long has this journey been?

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<v Speaker 11>Right now, we're three years old, so we're really quite

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<v Speaker 11>a young underdog, still a small team, but we're growing

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<v Speaker 11>fast and where we get so many demands to expand

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<v Speaker 11>to so many countries as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going going great.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's been kind of the biggest challenge for you

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, is it just figuring out all these

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<v Speaker 1>different signals and all the different variables that go into

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<v Speaker 1>this I would.

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<v Speaker 11>Say for us, the biggest challenge is expanding as soon

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<v Speaker 11>as possible because there's so much demand for the app

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<v Speaker 11>and we need to be able to to keep up

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<v Speaker 11>with our resources to expand into those different areas.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 11>Going as fast as possible is I think one of

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<v Speaker 11>the biggest challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>So this app is it do you monetize this app?

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<v Speaker 1>How is that going to work?

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<v Speaker 11>It's started out by wanting to help out our visually

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<v Speaker 11>impaired friend, and we want to keep it for free

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<v Speaker 11>for the end user. It's similar to kind of like

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<v Speaker 11>a ways model, where you get a very interesting anonymized

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<v Speaker 11>data that you can license to third parties to make

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<v Speaker 11>sure that the stays for free for the end user.

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<v Speaker 11>But there is for example, like bigger companies, they can

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<v Speaker 11>have very very useful information extracted out of the images

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<v Speaker 11>that we capture, and that way you can maintain for example,

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<v Speaker 11>your Google Maps, Apple Maps, and that way you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep the application for free for the end user. And

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<v Speaker 3>what advice do you have to someone that has an

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<v Speaker 3>idea for an app? Build it?

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<v Speaker 11>There's there's so many great ideas out there. There's always

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<v Speaker 11>someone being hesitant, like should I build it? Should I

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<v Speaker 11>try it. As long as you one percent miss every

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<v Speaker 11>chance that you don't take, so just try it, go

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<v Speaker 11>for it. I would have never imagined that after three

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<v Speaker 11>years I would be get dubbed up, which is a

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<v Speaker 11>livelong dream, and now I'm here, so it's super amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you find the app?

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<v Speaker 11>Just search for Oco in the app Store and then

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<v Speaker 11>you'll find Oco Accessible maps, accessible navigation.

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<v Speaker 3>And who do you think should download it?

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<v Speaker 11>I think everyone that knows someone who's bindo vision impaired

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<v Speaker 11>can download it, try it out so that they can

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<v Speaker 11>recommend it. Of course, if someone is blind and vision

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<v Speaker 11>impaired themselves, they can try it out and have fun

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<v Speaker 11>with it. Down the line, we're actually expanding to people

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<v Speaker 11>with a mobility disability as well, because we find that

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<v Speaker 11>there's so much information missing on accessible intersection and accessible

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<v Speaker 11>routing that we want to help answer some of those

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<v Speaker 11>questions as well. So down the line will be expanding

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<v Speaker 11>to helping the one in six Americans with a mobility

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<v Speaker 11>disability as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my conversation with Willem van Demurop, co founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Oco, an app that's revolutionizing street navigation for the

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<v Speaker 1>visually impaired. It's truly inspiring to see how developers like

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<v Speaker 1>this are using AI and smartphone technology to create more

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<v Speaker 1>inclusive experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, the app is only available for the iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find it by searching Oko on the app store.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put a link on my website.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to rich on Tech dot tv and hit

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<v Speaker 1>the light bulb at the top of the page to

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<v Speaker 1>find it.

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<v Speaker 3>More rich on Tech coming your way right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. The website for the show

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<v Speaker 1>richon Tech dot tv. Can follow me online at rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. A couple more items before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback. First off, Apple Launches worked with Google to

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<v Speaker 1>launch a tool where you can now transfer your Google

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<v Speaker 1>Photos directly to iCloud Photos. This is part of their

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<v Speaker 1>data transfer project. This is an open source initiative. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the big tech companies are very slowly doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know they're trying to make it so that

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<v Speaker 1>you have data portability between these companies.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a very slow process. It's very limited, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know we're seeing some progress. But if you have

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<v Speaker 3>Google Photos, you can now transfer your collection directly to

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<v Speaker 3>iCloud photos.

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<v Speaker 1>Without downloading it first. It will do it on the

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<v Speaker 1>back end for you. Process may take several hours to

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<v Speaker 1>a few days. Your photos and videos are not deleted

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<v Speaker 1>from Google Photos after the transfer. So the nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>is if you wanted to sort of back up your

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<v Speaker 1>Google Photos to iCloud, maybe you have some extra storage

1:38:32.760 --> 1:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>and you just want your photos in two places, which

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<v Speaker 1>you should have, this is one way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, apples are the new tool to transfer Google

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<v Speaker 1>Photos to iCloud photos and also Google Maps introducing a

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<v Speaker 1>speedometer and speed limits on the iPhone app. So this

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<v Speaker 1>has been available and Android for a long time. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving with Google Maps, you'll see in the lower

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<v Speaker 1>left hand corner, it shows the speed limit for the road,

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<v Speaker 1>but right next to it now on iPhone is going

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<v Speaker 1>to show the speed that you're going. Yes, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little scary because now someone else is tracking your speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the privacy policy is with that information.

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<v Speaker 1>Google says it's informational only. You should actually mostly rely

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<v Speaker 1>on your car's actual spinometer, and if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>turn it off, you can go into Google Map settings

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<v Speaker 1>under navigation driving options. The update is to help iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>users avoid speeding tickets. The ironic part is that Uber

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<v Speaker 1>has a very similar feature for the Uber drivers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always get a kick out of watching them go

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<v Speaker 1>faster than the speed limit signed and it's like in

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<v Speaker 1>red and it's flashing and they're just they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a funny story.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>We were out in Oregon last weekend for a wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother in law says, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>my Apple Watch, I'm not getting notifications on it anymore. Said, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me check it out. Let me just see if

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<v Speaker 1>it's connected to your phone. So she gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>watch and I say, this is not connected to your

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<v Speaker 1>phone at all. When was the last time you got

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<v Speaker 1>a notification on your Apple Watch. I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago. Was that when you got your new phone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you never connected the Apple Watch to your new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is a whole I I just got to

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<v Speaker 1>kick out of that, and it's it's the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I do this show, because to me, it's a no

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<v Speaker 1>brainer that you know, if I'm not getting a notification

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<v Speaker 1>on my watch, I'm troubleshooting. For the average person, it's

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<v Speaker 1>taking them a year to figure this stuff out. And

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't even realize. So my mother in law is

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<v Speaker 1>a very smart person. It just goes to show that

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<v Speaker 1>technology is tricky. And I just got a good laugh

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<v Speaker 1>out of that because I said, have you gotten any notifications?

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<v Speaker 1>She said she wasn't getting her text. I said, have

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<v Speaker 1>you gotten any notifications? No, Well that's because your phone

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<v Speaker 1>is literally not connected to this watch. So I told

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<v Speaker 1>her she had to format the watch and reconnect it

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<v Speaker 1>to the new phone. Time for the feedback segment. This

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<v Speaker 1>is your feedback plus the mail bag. These are the emails,

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, and the questions I get from you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to submit yours, go to Rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot tv hit contact. I was talking about the TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>ban last week at the VidCon conference, Frank writes in

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<v Speaker 1>I think people should understand the reason for the TikTok ban.

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<v Speaker 1>One could argue that content is the reason. But if

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<v Speaker 1>that were the case, Apple and Google could have banned

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<v Speaker 1>the app from their stores or set guidelines, which didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The real issue what are the laws governing TikTok to

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<v Speaker 1>protect privacy and who can access it? The preservation of

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<v Speaker 1>privacy should be dealt with, but where's the law for

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<v Speaker 1>that banning TikTok is just cough medicine for a cough

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<v Speaker 1>caused by severe Capitol Hill pneumonia. That's not dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. I like the analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a friend who explained how the laws

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<v Speaker 1>in China work, and I thought it to be true

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<v Speaker 1>from the US media. What I thought to be true

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<v Speaker 1>from the US media is not accurate. At one time

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<v Speaker 1>I agreed with the ban. Now I disagree. The government

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<v Speaker 1>should pass legislation that deals with the true issues. But

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<v Speaker 1>the real issue here is that it's more political at

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<v Speaker 1>this point and part of the posturing on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>for the election. That is very true, because let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok is not collecting any more data than any other

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<v Speaker 1>app on your phone. Somehow TikTok is a risk and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other apps are not.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony from Syracuse, New York writes in Rich, I love

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<v Speaker 1>your show. I was listening and heard the call about

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<v Speaker 1>a spectrum router that would not connect devices properly. Many ISPs,

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<v Speaker 1>including Verizon, use a feature called SUN self Organizing Network

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<v Speaker 1>that decides which network two point four or five to

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<v Speaker 1>connect devices too While it works okay for some, it's

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<v Speaker 1>often a problem for printers, doorbells, cameras, and thermostats. The

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<v Speaker 1>best solution I've found is to turn this feature off

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<v Speaker 1>all together. You usually need to rename the five G

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<v Speaker 1>network to distinguish it, then manually disconnect problematic device. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>manually connect problematic devices to the two point four network.

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<v Speaker 1>You can typically do this to the router's login page.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that helps. It's great to listen to common

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<v Speaker 1>tech problems and keep up to date. Plus US tech

1:42:49.040 --> 1:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>nerds can't help but absorb as much information as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Another email about the two point four versus five Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>from MESA, Arizona rights in regarding the person who had

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<v Speaker 1>Cox or some other ISP with a router on those

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<v Speaker 1>two point four and five gigahertz bands and their printer

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<v Speaker 1>no longer worked. I found that some two point four

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<v Speaker 1>gigahertz devices get confused, and if there's the networks have

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<v Speaker 1>the same SSID. The workaround is to give each band

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<v Speaker 1>a different name. For instance, my two point four is

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<v Speaker 1>named mcwireless and my five G is named Mcwireless Fast.

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<v Speaker 1>All the devices still see each other. I segment my

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<v Speaker 1>WiFi putting white bandwidth hogs like smart TVs on the

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<v Speaker 1>fast network while smart appliances, bulbs and switches are on

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<v Speaker 1>the two point four.

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<v Speaker 3>The setup works fine for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken writes in feedback on the gig Sky phone service

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited Europlan fifty dollars. I went to Paris and Montpellier

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<v Speaker 1>in France, London and the UK. I probably butchered that

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<v Speaker 1>name and Venice in Italy. Like I said, Mercy in

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<v Speaker 1>France to the guy making my omelet in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like Mercy, he goes, you mean Merselle and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, ah, is that how you say? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so mad at that stuff. I was like, Mercy, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Mercy bonjoor. It worked for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>using iPhone eleven with good tech support via phone, call

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<v Speaker 1>and email. There was an outage in Venice, but now

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<v Speaker 1>it's working. Thanks for talking about it on the radio show. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried gig sky while I was over there and

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<v Speaker 1>it did work just fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I will add that to my recommendations.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael from Florida writes in on your June show, you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about getting data while traveling internationally. I bought a

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<v Speaker 1>Soulless hot Spot about six months ago on sale for

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred bucks. It comes with a lifetime one gigabyte

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<v Speaker 1>a month international service at no cost. I've used it

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, Canada, and Jamaica. You can purchase

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<v Speaker 1>additional data, which never expires. For me, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious choice for travel. I use WhatsApp to communicate, so

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<v Speaker 1>all I need is the data. Yes, I did talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Solace. I used that when I was in Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>I tested it and it worked great. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>five G model, which I think is more expensive than

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<v Speaker 1>the one you got. But yes, soulis. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>your own hot spot, it's a great way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan from Berkeley writes in Hey Rich, a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you referenced Yakima, Washington. I did a double

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<v Speaker 1>take when you said that. I was the principal at

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<v Speaker 1>a high school and used to watch you on k NDO.

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<v Speaker 1>You even covered our high school while you were up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand was a big year as we moved to

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<v Speaker 1>our new home in September. It's always fun to recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the names of people who are on TV. During my

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<v Speaker 1>two stints in Yakima, keep up the great work on.

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<v Speaker 3>The radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, bringing back memories can doo my first

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<v Speaker 1>job on TV in the middle of Washington State, Yakima, Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see one more here. Brian from Watsonville writes in Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>love the show. You're doing a terrific job. My two

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<v Speaker 1>cents regarding Linux, no need to discuss it. It's great

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<v Speaker 1>for those who use it, But I've been the tech

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<v Speaker 1>guy for my family and workplace for years and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never used it. None of the tech wizards I know

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<v Speaker 1>use it either. I appreciate that Leo loves it and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it every week, but you only have so

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<v Speaker 1>much time with us. Every minute is precious and it's

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<v Speaker 1>best spent talking about iOS, Android, Mac and PC. As

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would say, Linux is the future of computing

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<v Speaker 1>and it always will be.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I'm not a hater. Linux works great for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, it's just not what I need help with Your

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<v Speaker 1>tips on iOS and Mac have really helped me. Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of exactly what I think. That's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it for this episode of the show. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>links to everything I mentioned on my website. Just go

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<v Speaker 1>to Rich on tech dot TV. Once you're there, just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the light bulb or after the show is posted

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<v Speaker 1>with the podcast, you can listen to it again and

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<v Speaker 1>also get the links there. You can find me on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. I am at Rich on Tech. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for listening. There are so many ways you can

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<v Speaker 1>spend your time. I do appreciate you spending it right

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<v Speaker 1>here with me. Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible, Bobo, Kim.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the crew. Do we have more of

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<v Speaker 3>a crew? I don't think so. My name is Rich Demiro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you real soon.