WEBVTT - Best Picture Countdown to the Oscars: "Frankenstein"

0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, Oscar's weekend, let's keep this thing going.

0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Movie number four we have for you now and our

0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.200
<v Speaker 1>cliff notes manyisodes to get you caught up before the

0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Oscar ceremony on Sunday night. This movie is Frankenstein and Robes.

0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.799
<v Speaker 1>This was one I was really really excited to see.

0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I was excited to see it too.

0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.240
<v Speaker 3>And look, we all, I believe at this point know

0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.760
<v Speaker 3>the story of Frankenstein. This is adapted from Mary Shelley's

0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.400
<v Speaker 3>incredible book that has had so many different adaptations. I mean,

0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.120
<v Speaker 3>how many times from the theater to the movies. So

0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.040
<v Speaker 3>many people have attempted this. But leave it to Guillermo

0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.600
<v Speaker 3>del Toro to try and make it the best it's

0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.680
<v Speaker 3>ever been done, and certainly he achieved, at least in

0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.760
<v Speaker 3>part that because it's yes nominated for Best Picture, and

0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.480
<v Speaker 3>not just Best Picture. We're talking nine nominations, Best Picture,

0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Best Supporting Actor, Best Screenplay, Best Achievement in Production Design,

0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Best Achievement in Costume Design, Best Sound, Best Original Song,

0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Best Achievement in Makeup and Hairstyling, and Best Cinnamontographer.

0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Now, this one stars Oscar, Isaac Jacob Ellerdy, who is

0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.520
<v Speaker 1>our favorite actor now Christoph Waltz. I love that guy

0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Mia goth in here as well. And of course the director,

0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.400
<v Speaker 1>famed director Guillomo del Toro, who just this. I guess

0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.319
<v Speaker 1>he's He's not a jump scare horror movie guy. He

0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>is an elevated horror movie guy.

0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean I was actually looking to remember all

0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.800
<v Speaker 3>because he has dipped his toes into the horror genre

0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.120
<v Speaker 3>more than once. So Pan's Labyrinth is the one that

0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I remember. Crimson Peak, you remember that, yes, and then

0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.039
<v Speaker 3>The Shape of Water, which won obviously that was an

0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.000
<v Speaker 3>odd movie. That was a very odd movie. That was

0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.040
<v Speaker 3>not my favorite movie of Karma del Toro. I love

0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Pan's Labyrinth though, I remember that. Yes, he in perfect

0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.080
<v Speaker 3>gear model Toro style. Took this to two and a

0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.880
<v Speaker 3>half hours. What was the exact runtime on?

0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get twenty nine, But you know what, if

0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.040
<v Speaker 1>there's ever I just did a quick google and this

0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.040
<v Speaker 1>is a Wikipedia how many feature films with Frankenstein four

0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.240
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy oh mine. So it's been done over

0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.519
<v Speaker 1>and over and over, and some of them have been

0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.919
<v Speaker 1>really good. And this was one when I hear there's

0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be another Dracula or Frankenstein movie, I go, okay, fine,

0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.359
<v Speaker 1>been there, done that. When I hear Giermo del Toro

0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.239
<v Speaker 1>is attached to it, robes that's worth paying attention to.

0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and that absolutely was I'm sure part of the draw.

0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.560
<v Speaker 3>In addition to mister Jacob, I'm fairly certain a lot

0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.640
<v Speaker 3>of young girls or young women who might not have

0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.160
<v Speaker 3>otherwise wanted to see this movie came just to see

0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.920
<v Speaker 3>him in this movie. And look, I don't even know

0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.440
<v Speaker 3>if we need to give the synopsis, but let's go ahead.

0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.600
<v Speaker 2>For those of you who have never heard of Stein is.

0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Oscar winning director Giermo del Toro adapts Mary Shelley's

0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.480
<v Speaker 3>classic tale of Der Frankenstein, a brilliant but egotistical scientist

0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.040
<v Speaker 3>who brings a creature to life in a monstrous experiment

0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.679
<v Speaker 3>that ultimately leads to the undoing of both the creator

0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:12.959
<v Speaker 3>and his tragic creation.

0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a good synopsis. And this one radar, Yes, but

0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>this is one that it went directly to Netflix, so

0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.480
<v Speaker 1>this did not get a chance to do any box

0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.560
<v Speaker 1>office growth. This was a Netflix film. Yes, Jacob Ellerdy

0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.639
<v Speaker 1>is a big draw. He is nominated as Best Supporting

0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Actor for his role as Frankenstein, and he was the

0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:37.520
<v Speaker 1>central excuse me, he's the monster, but yeah, Ropes, I

0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:43.040
<v Speaker 1>mean you he was. You couldn't stop paying attention when

0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.880
<v Speaker 1>he was on film. He didn't talk that much, right, No,

0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.360
<v Speaker 1>So it took a lot of movement and effort and

0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.960
<v Speaker 1>learning how to watch you know, right, the monster is

0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.320
<v Speaker 1>going through that. So it took that type of acting.

0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:00.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think to a great degree his perform rents

0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:01.920
<v Speaker 1>is one worth checking out.

0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.840
<v Speaker 3>And I think that probably was the biggest draw. I

0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.600
<v Speaker 3>have to admit I didn't know. Why wouldn't this have

0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:11.520
<v Speaker 3>gone to the box office? I'm curious something that ultimately

0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.240
<v Speaker 3>ends up being nominated as Best Picture.

0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.120
<v Speaker 2>It seems odd to me that it wouldn't have gotten

0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:17.800
<v Speaker 2>especially with.

0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Someone like Germa del Toro attached to it, Jacob Elherty

0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:22.479
<v Speaker 3>attached to it.

0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't that not have gone to the theater?

0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.360
<v Speaker 1>You remember Coda, right?

0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I loved Code.

0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.919
<v Speaker 1>Netflix has had several wins. They have a business model

0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that does not include the cost of having to put

0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.680
<v Speaker 1>movies into a movie theater. Knock yourselves out, do you think?

0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But it has been working for them and their model

0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes robes as you know, the model they will adjust

0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080
<v Speaker 1>at times because they had to do with K pop demon.

0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Hunters, right, that was true.

0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.320
<v Speaker 1>A mega hit, and then they threw it in theaters

0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit after it became a hit to

0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.160
<v Speaker 1>make a little more money sing alongs.

0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:00.960
<v Speaker 2>The bight the way.

0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you're gonna get a sing along for Frankenstein.

0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.320
<v Speaker 3>But yes, that does make sense that they realized, hey, wait,

0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.839
<v Speaker 3>we this has been a phenomenal success.

0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's try and capitalize on that.

0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Now put it back into theaters in a way that

0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:14.880
<v Speaker 3>maybe wasn't expected.

0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And I get that you could take a.

0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, some sort of a themed Halloween esque

0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.640
<v Speaker 3>type of Friday the thirteenth even and put it back

0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.760
<v Speaker 3>out maybe and try to drum up.

0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But this is their model. This is they make movies

0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for their for Netflix, and that is where they go, wow, you.

0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Know, it's funny. I was looking at some of the

0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.800
<v Speaker 3>reviews of this and they they were mixed because this

0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.320
<v Speaker 3>was epic, this was this was uh, this was a

0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.039
<v Speaker 3>long performance, as we pointed out, but they said some

0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.800
<v Speaker 3>people complained that they what they missed. There wasn't that line.

0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Is there a line that you can think of that

0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.960
<v Speaker 3>you remember? The four hundred plus Frankenstein movies that are

0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.320
<v Speaker 3>out there, there is always one.

0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Thing that visually, it's a lot.

0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes this For whatever reason, Giermo del Toro isci I

0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.400
<v Speaker 3>did not to include that famous line it's alive in

0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.400
<v Speaker 3>this movie, and some people were upset about that because

0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.919
<v Speaker 3>they were expecting it, they wanted it. That was that

0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.919
<v Speaker 3>thing you always attach and associate with Frankenstein.

0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I did not think about it to this exact moment,

0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that line. I hadn't thought about that line in years.

0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.560
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, just amazing it. Everybody knows that line. Look,

0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the critics and the audience were about the same on

0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.839
<v Speaker 1>this eighty five percent and ninety four percent, the audience

0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.080
<v Speaker 1>being the ninety four percent. But you said you read

0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you've read through more of these reviews. That

0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was a complaint, but any other complaints necessarily people that

0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.760
<v Speaker 1>jumped out about this movie.

0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Now, I just you know what, I think, it's hard

0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.040
<v Speaker 3>to stand out when you have from a critics standpoint, right,

0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.839
<v Speaker 3>they're looking at things critically. They've got all of the perspective.

0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps that we don't how many Frankenstein movies if I

0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.239
<v Speaker 3>seen not many.

0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I was in the play in high school.

0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.880
<v Speaker 3>So I'm familiar with the theatrical version of it on

0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.800
<v Speaker 3>a very amateur level. But it's just such a known

0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:04.159
<v Speaker 3>story it does take something significant to bring it or

0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.880
<v Speaker 3>to make it exceptional when you've got so many things

0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.080
<v Speaker 3>to compare it to. That's a tough thing to be

0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.800
<v Speaker 3>up against when it comes to critics, and it's just

0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.200
<v Speaker 3>how do you make a different I know there was

0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.520
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a prequel to the story that

0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.960
<v Speaker 3>we're used to hearing when they started out, but other

0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.440
<v Speaker 3>than that, you know, it was good, but it didn't

0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.800
<v Speaker 3>get maybe perhaps the critical acclaim. Some of these other

0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.440
<v Speaker 3>movies in the top ten got, you know.

0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.200
<v Speaker 1>A god to claim it's him, Guielmo del Toro, he

0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.040
<v Speaker 1>gets a certain level of respect. And you put Jacob

0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Elerdy in a body suit for half of the movie.

0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.360
<v Speaker 1>That don't work too.

0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.200
<v Speaker 3>And I think the other complaint that I saw from

0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:42.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks is, yes, we know the story,

0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.560
<v Speaker 3>but what makes a good story when you're emotionally involved.

0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.760
<v Speaker 3>They said that this felt a little detached, like you

0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:52.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't feel emotionally connected to the story, and that is

0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.200
<v Speaker 3>when you start, like, if you're like especially going to

0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.680
<v Speaker 3>tell a story, we all know, make me care more

0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.920
<v Speaker 3>than I ever have before. Make me root for this,

0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.400
<v Speaker 3>uh whatever, the monster, the creator, the lovengerest, make me

0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.320
<v Speaker 3>care about somebody. A lot of folks said they weren't

0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:09.560
<v Speaker 3>emotionally invested.

0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.080
<v Speaker 1>There was Wasn't there so much talked about in this

0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.320
<v Speaker 1>one about the makeup and whatnot. And I'm looking that

0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they are nominated for costume design, makeup and hairstyling, production designstography.

0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.080
<v Speaker 1>That all makes that all reads it. It is kind

0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's dark, but it is beautifully shot.

0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say, it's a beautiful film

0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to watch and to experience, but it is missing a

0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.800
<v Speaker 3>little something that for me would put it to the

0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.080
<v Speaker 3>top of because this is in the horror genre, correct,

0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.760
<v Speaker 3>so is it? Is it?

0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Frankenstein has to be in the horror It's supposed to be.

0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.959
<v Speaker 2>It didn't. It wasn't scary.

0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.320
<v Speaker 1>This did not feel like a horror movie.

0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:51.880
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't scary.

0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Damn. I did not didn't even cross my mind that

0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.560
<v Speaker 1>this was a horror movie. Yeah, and this is one

0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we also did not, even though it was only a

0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.440
<v Speaker 1>click away. We didn't watch this movie until we had

0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.120
<v Speaker 2>You remember how many times we would be scrolling through.

0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.600
<v Speaker 1>This is true you tried to give me.

0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I tried to get you to watch this so many times.

0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, there's Frankenstein. I mean, Frankenstein's available. It's on Netflix.

0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.680
<v Speaker 3>It's free, because that's another one of your caveasts that

0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.360
<v Speaker 3>you don't like to pay for things that you don't

0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.080
<v Speaker 3>have to because we have so many streaming.

0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Services, why would you purchase something? So I'm like, here

0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.719
<v Speaker 2>it is, it's free, let's watch it, and you're always.

0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, maybe later, okay, but watch it or skip it?

0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Is the question I was about to ask you for

0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:40.440
<v Speaker 1>your opinion there if after I finally said okay, let's

0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.720
<v Speaker 1>watch it, did you then think to yourself, yeah, it

0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was worth it. That's a question rogues Because I love

0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I love this story. I love all

0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the movies that were ever made, good, bad, nother. I

0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.920
<v Speaker 1>was so looking forward to this one. But how do

0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.400
<v Speaker 1>we ultimately end up feeling about it? We'll tell you

0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.200
<v Speaker 1>whether you we would tell you to watch or skip

0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:19.520
<v Speaker 1>this sucker. All right, We continue here with Frankenstein movie

0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.400
<v Speaker 1>number four. As we go through all ten and these

0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.760
<v Speaker 1>mini sos, just getting you caught up little cliff notes versions.

0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.680
<v Speaker 1>If you didn't get a chance to watch all twenty

0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.199
<v Speaker 1>three hours and ten minutes the collective runtime of all

0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.440
<v Speaker 1>these movies Frankenstein, though road. Your friend Nikki comes to you,

0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.800
<v Speaker 1>your mom comes to you, if anybody comes up to

0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you say, yo, I was going to watch Frankenstein. To

0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.680
<v Speaker 1>now you think I should, I.

0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Would say you can skip it?

0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Really go on completely, I would.

0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I would say you can skip it. I mean, look,

0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.640
<v Speaker 3>if you want to watch it. I just feel like,

0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:58.040
<v Speaker 3>compared to other movies that are original or different or unexpected,

0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.400
<v Speaker 3>like you already know how this end, you already know

0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.280
<v Speaker 3>this story, and for me to watch, I wanted it

0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.480
<v Speaker 3>to be scarier. I wanted to care more about the characters,

0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.520
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to be a little bit more frightened.

0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.120
<v Speaker 3>So for me, this would be a It wasn't a

0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I don't regret watching it, but I wouldn't

0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.440
<v Speaker 3>recommend why.

0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's not a bad movie obviously, so that's not

0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the suggestion at all. This robes eye was shocked and

0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.200
<v Speaker 1>how much I didn't like this movie. Wow, I was

0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.480
<v Speaker 1>shocked because I wanted to like it, Like everything is

0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:38.280
<v Speaker 1>there and Oscar Isaac. I love that dude, love him.

0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I could not. I didn't know what was going on

0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.439
<v Speaker 1>in terms of me, like, why don't I like that?

0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Why am I not enjoying this movie?

0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest. I fell asleep during a little

0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:47.319
<v Speaker 2>bit of it.

0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't underwhy was it baby that? I don't know

0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.240
<v Speaker 1>everything was there or should have been there. And maybe

0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it's just us, Maybe it's our our horror movie leanings.

0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I liked how it started,

0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like I was loved how it Oh, yes, that's a

0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.120
<v Speaker 1>good call. I was like, oh, where's this story? They're

0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.079
<v Speaker 1>going to take it a whole new way. And then

0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie ends up being a flashbag? Does it not?

0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And so that was a little difficult.

0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what is amazing this story was first they

0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.600
<v Speaker 3>say nothing in top the nineteen thirty one classic of

0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Boris Karlov.

0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember watching It's been.

0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.120
<v Speaker 3>A long, long, long long time, but black and white

0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Boris Karloff as the as the monster Frankenstein. That is

0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.160
<v Speaker 3>what everyone is comparing it to. And that is a

0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.120
<v Speaker 3>tall order. When you have a classic that people love,

0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that people refer to that people remember when they think

0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.200
<v Speaker 3>of Frankenstein and look if like to your point, if

0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:47.000
<v Speaker 3>anybody could do.

0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.160
<v Speaker 2>It, you would think someone like here model Toro could

0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:49.439
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.240
<v Speaker 1>And again it's a nominated for an Oscar.

0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.280
<v Speaker 2>It didn't hold my attention.

0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, it was loved by Planting and this is an

0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>absolute quality movie for us and the Jacob I'm not

0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.000
<v Speaker 1>sure what I was expecting from my monster, but that

0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.080
<v Speaker 1>was there was a way that he was trying to

0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess weave a story of the humanity of this character,

0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of this monster that I just to your like you said, Robes,

0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't end up at the end, I didn't care

0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.000
<v Speaker 1>if Frankenstein died. I didn't care if the monster died.

0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care if Elizabeth died.

0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.520
<v Speaker 3>About any of it, I have, but I do like

0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.680
<v Speaker 3>what you just pointed out. The beginning of the movie

0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:33.520
<v Speaker 3>was amazing. It was gorgeous, It was interesting, and it

0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.960
<v Speaker 3>was something we hadn't seen before because it, like I said,

0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.800
<v Speaker 3>it began with a prelude. And so you're in the

0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.720
<v Speaker 3>North Arctic Sea and you've got this ship heading to

0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:47.000
<v Speaker 3>the North Pole and you've got it's trapped with the ice.

0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.880
<v Speaker 3>It can't go anywhere and all of a sudden find

0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:56.720
<v Speaker 3>it wounded Victor Frankenstein and.

0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.400
<v Speaker 2>And you don't know that following him is the creature, you.

0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Know, I think that you know what that I'm thinking

0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.400
<v Speaker 1>back to those scenes with the ship and the guys,

0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.360
<v Speaker 1>because they had it at the end as well. A

0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of that was cool. A lot of that did work.

0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It really really did. I guess it was the chunk

0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of something in the middle of the creation. Yeah, and

0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Oscar Isaac wasn't likable. He played an arrogant ass of

0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a doctor Frankenstein and I love Oscar. I'm like, no, Oscar,

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I like you. So maybe all but the beginning and

0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.960
<v Speaker 1>hearing the voice bring him to me, like with the

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about, it started out really bring.

0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Him to me might have been almost as good as

0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:36.000
<v Speaker 3>it's alive.

0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was the replacement line because I'm sitting here,

0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.800
<v Speaker 1>ah see. Yeah, he's more brilliant. He's just so elevated

0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we can't even follow. But yes, that was our take

0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.120
<v Speaker 1>on Frankenstein. Brope said, you can skip it. I would

0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.240
<v Speaker 1>say watch it depending on what day it is, what

0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.720
<v Speaker 1>time it is, and what mood you're in. Don't make

0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>this your feature film for your Friday or Saturday night.

0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Just at least have lowered expectations that it gets slow

0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.280
<v Speaker 3>in the middle, and if you go into it with that,

0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.120
<v Speaker 3>maybe I always feel like expectations have such an impact

0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.720
<v Speaker 3>on what my overall feeling is leaving the theater, and

0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.120
<v Speaker 3>so if you just maybe keep your expectations to a

0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:17.120
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a lower level, I had really high expectations,

0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and that might be weighing into my feeling.

0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's going to love it now because we just said

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.040
<v Speaker 1>expectations pretty low. Number five on the list is going

0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to be Bogonia. I look for that one right after

0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.440
<v Speaker 1>this one. It should be there for you. And Bogonia

0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.360
<v Speaker 1>is one that even we're surprised we liked as much

0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:31.840
<v Speaker 1>as we did.