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Speaker 1: All right, folks, Oscar's weekend, let's keep this thing going.

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Speaker 1: Movie number four we have for you now and our

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Speaker 1: cliff notes manyisodes to get you caught up before the

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Speaker 1: Oscar ceremony on Sunday night. This movie is Frankenstein and Robes.

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Speaker 1: This was one I was really really excited to see.

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Speaker 2: I was excited to see it too.

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Speaker 3: And look, we all, I believe at this point know

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Speaker 3: the story of Frankenstein. This is adapted from Mary Shelley's

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Speaker 3: incredible book that has had so many different adaptations. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how many times from the theater to the movies. So

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Speaker 3: many people have attempted this. But leave it to Guillermo

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Speaker 3: del Toro to try and make it the best it's

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Speaker 3: ever been done, and certainly he achieved, at least in

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Speaker 3: part that because it's yes nominated for Best Picture, and

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Speaker 3: not just Best Picture. We're talking nine nominations, Best Picture,

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Speaker 3: Best Supporting Actor, Best Screenplay, Best Achievement in Production Design,

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Speaker 3: Best Achievement in Costume Design, Best Sound, Best Original Song,

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Speaker 3: Best Achievement in Makeup and Hairstyling, and Best Cinnamontographer.

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Speaker 1: Now, this one stars Oscar, Isaac Jacob Ellerdy, who is

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Speaker 1: our favorite actor now Christoph Waltz. I love that guy

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Speaker 1: Mia goth in here as well. And of course the director,

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Speaker 1: famed director Guillomo del Toro, who just this. I guess

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Speaker 1: he's He's not a jump scare horror movie guy. He

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Speaker 1: is an elevated horror movie guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I was actually looking to remember all

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Speaker 3: I remember. Crimson Peak, you remember that, yes, and then

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Speaker 3: The Shape of Water, which won obviously that was an

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Speaker 3: odd movie. That was a very odd movie. That was

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Speaker 3: not my favorite movie of Karma del Toro. I love

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Speaker 3: Pan's Labyrinth though, I remember that. Yes, he in perfect

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Speaker 3: gear model Toro style. Took this to two and a

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Speaker 3: half hours. What was the exact runtime on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get twenty nine, But you know what, if

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Speaker 1: there's ever I just did a quick google and this

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Speaker 1: is a Wikipedia how many feature films with Frankenstein four

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy oh mine. So it's been done over

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Speaker 1: been there, done that. When I hear Giermo del Toro

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Speaker 1: is attached to it, robes that's worth paying attention to.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that absolutely was I'm sure part of the draw.

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Speaker 3: In addition to mister Jacob, I'm fairly certain a lot

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Speaker 3: of young girls or young women who might not have

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Speaker 3: otherwise wanted to see this movie came just to see

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Speaker 3: him in this movie. And look, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: if we need to give the synopsis, but let's go ahead.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who have never heard of Stein is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Oscar winning director Giermo del Toro adapts Mary Shelley's

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Speaker 3: classic tale of Der Frankenstein, a brilliant but egotistical scientist

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Speaker 1: That's a good synopsis. And this one radar, Yes, but

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Speaker 1: this is one that it went directly to Netflix, so

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Speaker 1: this did not get a chance to do any box

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Speaker 1: office growth. This was a Netflix film. Yes, Jacob Ellerdy

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Speaker 1: is a big draw. He is nominated as Best Supporting

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Speaker 1: Actor for his role as Frankenstein, and he was the

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Speaker 1: central excuse me, he's the monster, but yeah, Ropes, I

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Speaker 1: mean you he was. You couldn't stop paying attention when

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Speaker 3: And I think that probably was the biggest draw. I

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Speaker 3: have to admit I didn't know. Why wouldn't this have

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Speaker 2: It seems odd to me that it wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 1: Netflix has had several wins. They have a business model

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Speaker 1: that does not include the cost of having to put

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Speaker 1: But it has been working for them and their model

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Speaker 1: A mega hit, and then they threw it in theaters

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get a sing along for Frankenstein.

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Speaker 3: But yes, that does make sense that they realized, hey, wait,

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Speaker 3: Now put it back into theaters in a way that

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Speaker 2: And I get that you could take a.

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Speaker 1: But this is their model. This is they make movies

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Speaker 3: Know, it's funny. I was looking at some of the

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Speaker 3: Is there a line that you can think of that

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Speaker 3: you remember? The four hundred plus Frankenstein movies that are

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Speaker 3: Yes this For whatever reason, Giermo del Toro isci I

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Speaker 1: But to your point, just amazing it. Everybody knows that line. Look,

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Speaker 1: the critics and the audience were about the same on

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Speaker 1: I think you've read through more of these reviews. That

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Speaker 3: Now, I just you know what, I think, it's hard

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Speaker 3: Perhaps that we don't how many Frankenstein movies if I

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Speaker 1: A god to claim it's him, Guielmo del Toro, he

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Speaker 3: And I think the other complaint that I saw from

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Speaker 1: There was Wasn't there so much talked about in this

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Speaker 1: I couldn't underwhy was it baby that? I don't know

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Speaker 1: everything was there or should have been there. And maybe

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Speaker 1: the whole movie ends up being a flashbag? Does it not?

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Speaker 3: You know what is amazing this story was first they

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Speaker 3: say nothing in top the nineteen thirty one classic of

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Speaker 2: Do you remember watching It's been.

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Speaker 3: A long, long, long long time, but black and white

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Speaker 3: Boris Karloff as the as the monster Frankenstein. That is

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Speaker 2: It, you would think someone like here model Toro could

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Speaker 1: And again it's a nominated for an Oscar.

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Speaker 2: It didn't hold my attention.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, it was loved by Planting and this is an

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Speaker 3: About any of it, I have, but I do like

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Speaker 3: what you just pointed out. The beginning of the movie

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Speaker 2: And you don't know that following him is the creature, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I think that you know what that I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was the replacement line because I'm sitting here,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's going to love it now because we just said

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Speaker 1: this one. It should be there for you. And Bogonia

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