WEBVTT - ICYMI: The Home Edit 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.400 Hi, everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.680 in Heels. The show is all about celebrating the most 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.080 extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their incredible journeys to 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.880 the top, all while staying glamorous. Today with me, we 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:19.000 have my favorite duo of festies, the incredible Cleia Cher 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:23.960 and Joanna Teplin from the Home Edit. Together, we speak 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.520 about the beginnings of their insane organizational skills, like actually insane, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.440 moving to Nashville and why both for their husbands and 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.040 meeting on a blind friendship date that turned into their 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.120 most amazing business. The girls also talk about when they 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.519 have their moments where they need to mentally shut off, relax, 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.880 and of course recuperate, but of course they're still together 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:54.520 during absolute silence. First of all, I'm so happy to 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.160 see you both and speak to you both, and you 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.400 know you're such dear friends. I obviously know how you 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.600 guys came together. I don't want to make you tell 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.640 your whole life story, but what I do want to 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.600 talk about, how in God's. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:07.280 Name did you get here. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.479 It's funny because I remember meeting you for the first 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.680 time and hearing about you from a few friends, and 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.920 I obviously fell in love with you guys because you 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.520 were so funny and so silly and so passionate, right 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.919 And for me, the magnet that I have to certain 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.840 people are when they have a passion for what they do, 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.839 no matter what it is, If you like are smiling 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.920 and excited and put your whole self into it, to me, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.080 that's the draw right absolutely, And so I think with both. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.320 Of you it's very clear this is your passion. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.440 All you have to do is spend ten minutes with 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.640 you in any closet or anywhere, and the OCD really 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.440 kicks in high. And so sure I want to kind 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.160 of understand a little bit. Who were you as a kid? 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.840 Like were you always like cleaning up? So sure, both 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.880 of you like that are not? 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.440 Really this is actually my favorite question. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.480 Joanna's smiling because she knows, like truly this just is 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.600 it hits to my soul because the most amazing thing 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.840 is that I was. But Joanna went through a real 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.120 flob period. That is just it's like my favorite thing 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.000 for people to ask. I love it, But I think 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.280 she pays people to ask. I literally am like, if 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.720 you could just ask this question because all this you 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.160 know what, here's what I'll tell my story and Joanne 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:22.919 can explain. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.240 But it's beautiful. Can I tell you why? 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.880 Because it shows that there's hope for people that aren't 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:29.959 like Clea. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:31.880 So Clia tell me, So you were born like this. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.320 So I was born this way, and I now use 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.480 my powers for good and not evil. But when I 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.960 was a kid, I would spend an inordinate amount of 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.679 time in my room making everything just so. I would 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.960 move furniture around, like what I would do on like 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:47.720 spring break. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.360 I remember the first day of spring break. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.640 I was like, well, this is this room is my home, 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.000 like this is my apartment, and I am going to 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.760 make sure that every like my bed is made every morning, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.720 that everything is perfect. And I was going to set 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.800 up my little you know, my reading station whatever it was. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.480 You know, back of the day, we didn't have iPad, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.640 like this was like my the what I did in 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.280 my room was my entertainment. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.360 That way, you just want to take the electronics for 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.000 our kids, so they do the same. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:13.600 I kind of do. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.399 And Stella, if she were here, she'd be like, oh, 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.880 but like I do that just on roadblocks, Like I 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.840 like make like a nice room. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.560 But I just I'm like, Okay, that's not the point. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.520 But there was a portion of my younger life before 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.040 my mother remarried and then my stepdad went to adopt me. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.960 But my mother was a single mom until I was 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.560 in I would say, the fourth grade, fourth or fifth grade. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.200 It's pretty pivotal, it is. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:42.040 It was pivotal. And my mom was the hardest worker ever. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.640 She inherited my grandfather's business, and even when she and 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.280 she just retired a few years ago, my dad has 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.880 been like begging her to not but it's just it's 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.200 who she is. And everyone in my family join and 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.240 I talk about this a lot. Every single person in 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.960 my family is an entrepreneur. No one ended up working 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.920 for a company. Everyone worked for themselves, and so that's 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.960 what I witness growing up. And that's, you know, I 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.280 think where my footsteps kind of fell in. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.520 So your kids, So, do your kids love it? Do 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.400 they reject it? Do you think it's just you're born 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.600 with it or not? Because I have one that is 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:16.360 and one that isn't. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.680 It's really interesting and I find myself being hopeful and 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.039 frustrated at the same time because I don't think that 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.839 there's like a perfect you know, no one has like 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.240 come out blazing here, so which is frustrating. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:30.840 My daughter has a lot of. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.359 Things where she will be like this bothers me, you know, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.440 like if something isn't in place, sure, or this is 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.520 so satisfying, sure, or like doesn't it kill you if? 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.839 And I'm like, yes, I see all those things. Why 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.000 is their laundry on the floor? 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.039 Like why? Like where? What about your skincare? Like why 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.719 is it on? Can you put it away? So it's 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.040 like I again, I appreciate that about her. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.760 My son is he's not bothered by anything something, will 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.839 wear the same three shirts for the rest of his 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.120 life because he wears them. They're clean, shouldered, put back, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.720 So he just is things are less chaotic because he's 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.159 just simple and Stella has to try everything on and 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.039 then like leaves it everywhere. I think part of the 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.520 issue is my kids have never had one million toys 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.440 or one million things like that. I've always had a 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.159 pretty pair down. But with clothing, what are you gonna do? 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:20.080 They have to get dressed? 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.800 God help God help us great. Exactly, I'd be in 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.000 jail because I'd be broke. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.039 You would be living on the street, and your daughter 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.120 would be the best stress in like head to Gucci. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.440 But I'd be broke on the street a one hundred percent, and. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.479 I'm about to be because Stella has now she's grown 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.000 into like an actual taste for clothing, which is so sorry. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:40.080 Clothing is expensive. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.720 It's so frustrating, like we're target is a done day, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.400 Like that is not happening anymore. So, yes, things actually 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.600 cost money and it's you know, very stressful. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.800 Thank god Sutton does the care like action. Yeah, it 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.640 has to be, He'll stay money there. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.240 Stella was always she always cared about her outfit's the 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.120 very first time Joanna came over with her kids, Marlowe, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.360 who you know has an older boy younger daughter, and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.000 so Marlowe came over like Frumpully Stumpkins. She was just 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.480 like in like Miles clothed like I feel like she 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.280 was like in, but she was dressed. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.760 Like me and like leggings and a sweat I was like, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 probably like a cute normal girl like like she was. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.040 She wasn't like wet. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:17.960 Pants right ware. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.440 She was the like sweatpants and tennis shoes and like 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.400 whatever shirt and too like let's speak there, she was too. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.400 Stella took Marlowe by the hand led her into her closet, 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.359 into her room. I was like to marlow yes, she 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.240 was like, let me help you. And she put Marlowe 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.560 in like a ball gown, of course, and Marlowe came 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.240 out like Cinderella when she is around and sparkled. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.279 Marlow was a change first, and she was like, mom, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.160 like you what if you were holding out on that 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.880 were the same dress, this old navy dress that I 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.320 had to buy in every color until the size ran out. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.720 We bought it a year after year, six years in 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:56.080 a row. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.039 She only wore the one dress because it was like 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.560 basically the one that Sola showed her. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:00.640 But that's the thing. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.240 I do think ninety percent of who we are, if 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.080 not more, is how we're born, right Because I was 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.520 like Stella and most of my friends were like Marlowe, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.679 and by the way, still are, but they still enjoy 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:17.360 getting dressed up. But they also, in their most happiest self, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.000 are like they still look great, they still look cute, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.080 but they're casual. And I think it really does. I 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.840 think we look at our kids when they're born and go, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.000 who are you going to be? And I had so 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.200 many wise people tell me like, they're this, They're what 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.440 you're looking at. And when I think about it, my 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.400 kids are like exactly as. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:36.880 They were born. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.680 Okay, so, Johanna, you grew up and you were neat 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.200 freak and then became a slob and then became a 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:42.760 neat freak. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:43.120 Yeah. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.120 No, I started off really really organized, and I always 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.680 loved moving furniture around, like when my mom would come home. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.440 I hadn't like move beds myself. I was really into 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.560 how things look. I also, you probably don't even know 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.000 this one, so just stand back on this one. But 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.240 I used to collect, like my grandmother would take me 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.400 shopping in California. I grew up in North Carolina, and 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.080 I remember coming to California every Christmas break and we 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.240 would go shopping and we would go to like Benetton 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:10.120 and Gap, like ben like all of those things. And 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.640 I would collect the bags that the clothes would come in, 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.760 and I would hang them on my walls, and so 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.600 I would decorate all the walls with all the shopping bags. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.360 Yeah, and this was like, by the way, by the way, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.880 you should do that again. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.640 Clea is a gas. I need to see I need 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.160 to see what it looked like. It was fabulous. It 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.240 was like an art and slat. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:29.760 That's what I mean. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.560 It sounds very much like something at the met like 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.040 I'm really I'm super into this right now. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.920 It was like pop art before I knew what that was. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.400 But anyway, I had this in me, so I was 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.920 like very particular how things would go, and I would. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.200 Always try to rearrange furniture. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.760 And then I took a sharp left turn in high 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.440 school and was a complete slob, cheerleading clothes broad in 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.280 the back of my trunk of my car, like everything 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.520 on the floor, absolute total disaster. 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.319 College close to the ceiling, the biggest mess. And then 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.400 I turned a quarter I guess, God. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.440 I don't even know when some time after college, and 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.720 I was like, I need everything in back and order. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.160 I just can't live like this. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.920 And I just became obsessed, and especially after I had 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.520 when I was pregnant and after I had Miles, my son, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.080 just perfecting every closet and every inch matters, and like 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.520 how it makes me feel sane and calm and in 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.280 control and all these things that I didn't have but 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:24.800 you know, having a newborn or whatever. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.360 Yeah, And I've. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:26.920 Never looked back. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:28.480 It's almost like we do. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.679 The same thing, honestly, but in a different you know, 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.679 a different angle, like a different facet of the industry, right, 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.240 Like there are so many similarities, right, and so for 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 me it's like that getting dressed thing. It's a little 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.880 bit like so you guys, your peace of mind is 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.760 like everything in. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.000 Order, right, And I definitely have a lot of that. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.760 I do have this part of me that if I 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.880 have five events in a week, you cannot imagine what 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.760 my bathroom and bathtub look like. There's like gowns and 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.760 tool and jewel, like it's just everywhere. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:09:59.520 So a lot of it for. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.080 Me is like a time thing and like just being 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.080 like you know, but I will say that like for me, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.360 even if it takes me five minutes to get ready 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:12.200 or whatever, I can't really like function until I feel 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:13.920 Like I was telling someone the other day, like I 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.920 had COVID once I took me two and a half 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.040 years to get I got it. They said, so what 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.600 did you do like when you had COVID? Did you 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.000 get dressed? And I was like, I was in different 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.720 rotating black robes. My skin hurts so bad that like 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.719 writing hurt, but I had a full cati lash and 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.720 a liplod because I couldn't. It was like I couldn't. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.600 I just couldn't. I twirled my hair. Nobody was seeing 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.959 me like I nobody. I lacked everyone out. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.080 Clayton, I always say this about organizing, and I have 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.280 a feeling and this is sort of maybe how you feel. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:44.640 I mean, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.199 When we're organizing, something just has to click into place, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.080 and once it's in the right spot, it's just like 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.120 this is right. This is how the space has always 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:51.880 been intended to be. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.360 It's true. And I don't know if. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.079 You're like that with I'm not like yes, flowers or 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.240 out any thing. I know nothing about any of those, 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.320 but I can imagine for you you that's how. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.080 It feels, especially when you're styling somebody else, because you 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.360 look at it like the way you guys share a 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:04.920 roam in a. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.360 Space and it like clicks clicks clicks, Yes. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:07.720 One hundred. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.240 But you know what, Rachel, I understand so much. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.880 I mean I laugh about the like the perfect wing 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.480 on the eye just because I actually don't know how 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:15.840 to do that. 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.920 But I think about during chemo, where. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.440 Every single person in my life is like, oh, you 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.200 have a pass like you're like live in your pajamas lifts, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.920 and I kept trying to explain, and then I stopped. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.240 Trying to explain that I was literally doing. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.800 It for myself, like putting on makeup, course, and I 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.960 was already like, you're already it like when you have 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.959 COVID or whatever, and I have COVID during Campcord, which. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.080 Is like, that's ruod. 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.720 And I want to touch on that because we've talked 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.880 about this, and I've mentioned it a few times in 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.280 different things. You know, I come from the family of cancer, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.559 and I also have multiple friends that have gone through it, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.680 obviously you being one of them. Bravest warrior I ever knew. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.800 I will say that the hardest thing I have seen 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.480 for women is not feeling like a woman and not 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.800 looking like a woman and not and you do take 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.720 everything off and we do get stripped down. It's that 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.000 part of it that makes you feel a certain way. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.000 And I think to your point, it was truthfully in 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.760 this podcast is not about me, so I don't want 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.400 to turn it on me. But actually, when I quit 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.880 styling right after nine to eleven, I quit styling because 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.160 I felt like it was very superficial. And I said, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.000 I don't want to do this anymore. It means nothing 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.160 compared to like what these social workers, the doctors, the 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.400 frontline workers and everything. And I was like quitting. And 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.440 I turned down all these jobs for like three to 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.880 six months. It's crazy. And my father tried to get 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.280 me back in. And then there's this doctor friend of mine, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.560 she's actually a brain surgeon, and she was down at 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.800 the hospitals, you know, during nine to eleven for that 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.679 whole month's month, and she said, oh my god, tell 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.520 me something about fashion, tell me something. And I said, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.880 I quit. And she said, what do you mean you quit? 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.160 And I said, I quit. I don't want to do 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.280 it anymore. It doesn't mean anything. It's stupid. I'm just 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.679 like it's superficial. And she's like, you've lost your mind 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.240 and I said no, really, like what you do matters, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.800 what I do doesn't. And she was like, Okay, sit down, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.840 and she literally sent me down and explained to me 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:09.000 why it matters, and that how much like my book 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.560 or the things that I do and the way that 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.480 I helped women kind of want to get out of 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.960 bed sometimes and do those things. And she talked me 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.760 through this, and so it was at that point I 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.560 shifted literally like the purpose of what I was doing 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.160 and started to sort of try to go in all 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.920 these different directions that were really focused on helping women 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.480 live their best life, Oh, be their most confidence selves. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.520 That makes so much sense, And I think you inspire 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.720 me one hundred percent. And then I'm like it almost 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.560 makes me giggle because I'm like, who am I to 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.240 be inspired by Rachel Zoe, Like, I'm not going to 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.120 have a chance at that, you know, like Joanne and 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.960 I like will leave every time and be like, there's 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.320 no one more glamorous than Rachel in this world but you. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.319 But you're zero people. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.400 Maybe Molly too, Like I feel like you, guys both, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.079 I can't. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.000 Do the sweats real cute. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.080 She can like do work out clothes all day and 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.240 still be super cute. And you just wouldn't, Like you 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.520 just wouldn't because you couldn't look cute. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.319 You know, you would look cute. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.520 But I genuinely like, I can literally see you in pajamas, Yes, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.040 I could see you. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.080 And it's not who you are, right, It's just not 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:10.440 who you are. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.720 I feel like I ran out into the world naked. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.160 I think that's right. I think you rather be naked. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.720 I actually think you'd rather be naked than it's what 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.680 I feel like. But it is true. You teach people 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.520 and you inspire people to be there. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.360 I think most beautiful inner glamorous self, you know, like 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:27.800 you don't necessarily need. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.560 It doesn't have everyone you wear, right, it doesn't. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.480 But I do feel that way about you, and it's 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.640 so genuine and it's so wild because it's not just 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.960 like your public persona, that is who you are as 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:39.360 a person. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:40.880 Yeah, I fully agree. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.040 Don't you got well, don't you own your own infanity? 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.200 You guys? Don't you just say like, I am who 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:45.480 I am? 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.480 And it's like you get to an age and a 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.000 point in your life where you just go, okay. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.320 Whenever I know it is I am, I am who 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.440 I am. And it's easier to accept friends for who 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:55.000 they are too. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.560 I mean, I honestly think that's what makes the friendship 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.480 CLEI and I have so powerful. It's like we both 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.720 know who the other person is so right, you meet 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.960 them where they are, that's exactly right. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.480 So you, guys, I have a question, so you obviously okay, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.880 So give me like the tune inte of how you 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.600 came together, just for our listeners who don't know, because 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.600 I think and then I want to talk about this afterwards. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.560 I do want to talk about the copycat effect. Yes, oh, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.520 I do want to talk about that because obviously, like 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.000 we've all been through that, but I do want to 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.360 talk about it because I'm seeing them coming in numbers 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.040 and you're very sensitive to it. With you guys, I'm 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.440 very like. So, so I want to talk about how 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.760 you came together because it was very unlikely, it. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.240 Is very unlikely. I will give the very bird's eye 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:39.680 view of it. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.120 So I moved to Nashville in twenty fifteen, so that'll 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:44.320 it's coming up on eight years. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.400 Joanna moved a year and a half prior. And you 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:46.880 move there? 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.000 Why just randomly? 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.080 Your husband, your husband's husband, both of us, both both 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.880 of us, us, both of us moved from California to 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.320 Nashville sight unseen. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:55.880 Wow. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.800 We literally I flew in. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.560 For thirty six hours to buy a house and then 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.960 flew right back to LA like we had never stepped foot. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.040 You guys are here and I had never come here 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.280 until I moved here. Say that I came here. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:13.080 Thing ever, Joanna and I both think it's insane that 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.600 we said, yes, it is insane. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.320 But listen, people do it all day every day. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.920 But it was meant to be. You knows it was 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:20.760 obviously meant to be. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.880 We always say that we moved for husband's jobs, and 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.480 now everyone's staying for our jobs. So, but Joanna and 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.680 I met through a mutual friend who basically put us 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.800 in a blind friendship date together to go to lunch. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.600 Joanna was slightly reluctant to go to lunch with me 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.880 because she did not want a business partner, and Leah 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.520 kind of pitched it as, you guys both want to 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.160 start an organizing company. We both told Leah this, which 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.480 is so random, right, like who wants to start? Well, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.040 now everyone does, but who wants to start an organizing company? 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.680 And so she was like, oh, I have these two 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.200 friends who both want the same thing. Joanna was hesitant, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.640 but we sat down and we got up after four 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.560 hours of lunch as business partners. And that very same 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.120 day evening, actually we came up with our name, our logo, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.399 or we got our domain, our social handles. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:09.160