1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: in Heels. The show is all about celebrating the most 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their incredible journeys to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the top, all while staying glamorous. Today with me, we 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: have my favorite duo of festies, the incredible Cleia Cher 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: and Joanna Teplin from the Home Edit. Together, we speak 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: about the beginnings of their insane organizational skills, like actually insane, 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: moving to Nashville and why both for their husbands and 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: meeting on a blind friendship date that turned into their 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: most amazing business. The girls also talk about when they 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: have their moments where they need to mentally shut off, relax, 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: and of course recuperate, but of course they're still together 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: during absolute silence. First of all, I'm so happy to 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: see you both and speak to you both, and you 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: know you're such dear friends. I obviously know how you 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: guys came together. I don't want to make you tell 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: your whole life story, but what I do want to 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about, how in God's. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Name did you get here. 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember meeting you for the first 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: time and hearing about you from a few friends, and 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I obviously fell in love with you guys because you 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: were so funny and so silly and so passionate, right 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: And for me, the magnet that I have to certain 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: people are when they have a passion for what they do, 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: no matter what it is, If you like are smiling 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: and excited and put your whole self into it, to me, 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: that's the draw right absolutely, And so I think with both. 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: Of you it's very clear this is your passion. 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: All you have to do is spend ten minutes with 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: you in any closet or anywhere, and the OCD really 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: kicks in high. And so sure I want to kind 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: of understand a little bit. Who were you as a kid? 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Like were you always like cleaning up? So sure, both 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: of you like that are not? 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: Really this is actually my favorite question. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: Joanna's smiling because she knows, like truly this just is 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: it hits to my soul because the most amazing thing 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: is that I was. But Joanna went through a real 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: flob period. That is just it's like my favorite thing 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: for people to ask. I love it, But I think 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: she pays people to ask. I literally am like, if 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: you could just ask this question because all this you 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: know what, here's what I'll tell my story and Joanne 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: can explain. 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: But it's beautiful. Can I tell you why? 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Because it shows that there's hope for people that aren't 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: like Clea. 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: So Clia tell me, So you were born like this. 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: So I was born this way, and I now use 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: my powers for good and not evil. But when I 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: was a kid, I would spend an inordinate amount of 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: time in my room making everything just so. I would 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: move furniture around, like what I would do on like 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: spring break. 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: I remember the first day of spring break. 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 4: I was like, well, this is this room is my home, 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: like this is my apartment, and I am going to 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: make sure that every like my bed is made every morning, 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: that everything is perfect. And I was going to set 61 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: up my little you know, my reading station whatever it was. 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: You know, back of the day, we didn't have iPad, 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: like this was like my the what I did in 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: my room was my entertainment. 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: That way, you just want to take the electronics for 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: our kids, so they do the same. 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: I kind of do. 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 4: And Stella, if she were here, she'd be like, oh, 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: but like I do that just on roadblocks, Like I 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: like make like a nice room. 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: But I just I'm like, Okay, that's not the point. 72 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: But there was a portion of my younger life before 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: my mother remarried and then my stepdad went to adopt me. 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: But my mother was a single mom until I was 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: in I would say, the fourth grade, fourth or fifth grade. 76 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: It's pretty pivotal, it is. 77 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: It was pivotal. And my mom was the hardest worker ever. 78 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: She inherited my grandfather's business, and even when she and 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: she just retired a few years ago, my dad has 80 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: been like begging her to not but it's just it's 81 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 4: who she is. And everyone in my family join and 82 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: I talk about this a lot. Every single person in 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: my family is an entrepreneur. No one ended up working 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: for a company. Everyone worked for themselves, and so that's 85 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: what I witness growing up. And that's, you know, I 86 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: think where my footsteps kind of fell in. 87 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: So your kids, So, do your kids love it? Do 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: they reject it? Do you think it's just you're born 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: with it or not? Because I have one that is 90 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: and one that isn't. 91 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 4: It's really interesting and I find myself being hopeful and 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 4: frustrated at the same time because I don't think that 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: there's like a perfect you know, no one has like 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: come out blazing here, so which is frustrating. 95 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: My daughter has a lot of. 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: Things where she will be like this bothers me, you know, 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: like if something isn't in place, sure, or this is 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: so satisfying, sure, or like doesn't it kill you if? 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yes, I see all those things. Why 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: is their laundry on the floor? 101 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: Like why? Like where? What about your skincare? Like why 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: is it on? Can you put it away? So it's 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: like I again, I appreciate that about her. 104 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: My son is he's not bothered by anything something, will 105 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: wear the same three shirts for the rest of his 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: life because he wears them. They're clean, shouldered, put back, 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: So he just is things are less chaotic because he's 108 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: just simple and Stella has to try everything on and 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: then like leaves it everywhere. I think part of the 110 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: issue is my kids have never had one million toys 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: or one million things like that. I've always had a 112 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 4: pretty pair down. But with clothing, what are you gonna do? 113 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: They have to get dressed? 114 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: God help God help us great. Exactly, I'd be in 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: jail because I'd be broke. 116 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 4: You would be living on the street, and your daughter 117 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: would be the best stress in like head to Gucci. 118 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: But I'd be broke on the street a one hundred percent, and. 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: I'm about to be because Stella has now she's grown 120 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: into like an actual taste for clothing, which is so sorry. 121 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: Clothing is expensive. 122 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: It's so frustrating, like we're target is a done day, 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: Like that is not happening anymore. So, yes, things actually 124 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 4: cost money and it's you know, very stressful. 125 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: Thank god Sutton does the care like action. Yeah, it 126 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: has to be, He'll stay money there. 127 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: Stella was always she always cared about her outfit's the 128 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: very first time Joanna came over with her kids, Marlowe, 129 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: who you know has an older boy younger daughter, and 130 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: so Marlowe came over like Frumpully Stumpkins. She was just 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: like in like Miles clothed like I feel like she 132 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: was like in, but she was dressed. 133 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: Like me and like leggings and a sweat I was like, 134 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: probably like a cute normal girl like like she was. 135 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: She wasn't like wet. 136 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: Pants right ware. 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: She was the like sweatpants and tennis shoes and like 138 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: whatever shirt and too like let's speak there, she was too. 139 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: Stella took Marlowe by the hand led her into her closet, 140 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 4: into her room. I was like to marlow yes, she 141 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: was like, let me help you. And she put Marlowe 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: in like a ball gown, of course, and Marlowe came 143 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: out like Cinderella when she is around and sparkled. 144 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 5: Marlow was a change first, and she was like, mom, 145 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: like you what if you were holding out on that 146 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: were the same dress, this old navy dress that I 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 5: had to buy in every color until the size ran out. 148 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: We bought it a year after year, six years in 149 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: a row. 150 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: She only wore the one dress because it was like 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: basically the one that Sola showed her. 152 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: But that's the thing. 153 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: I do think ninety percent of who we are, if 154 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: not more, is how we're born, right Because I was 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: like Stella and most of my friends were like Marlowe, 156 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: and by the way, still are, but they still enjoy 157 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: getting dressed up. But they also, in their most happiest self, 158 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: are like they still look great, they still look cute, 159 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: but they're casual. And I think it really does. I 160 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: think we look at our kids when they're born and go, 161 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: who are you going to be? And I had so 162 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: many wise people tell me like, they're this, They're what 163 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: you're looking at. And when I think about it, my 164 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: kids are like exactly as. 165 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: They were born. 166 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so, Johanna, you grew up and you were neat 167 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: freak and then became a slob and then became a 168 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: neat freak. 169 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: No, I started off really really organized, and I always 171 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: loved moving furniture around, like when my mom would come home. 172 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: I hadn't like move beds myself. I was really into 173 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: how things look. I also, you probably don't even know 174 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: this one, so just stand back on this one. But 175 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: I used to collect, like my grandmother would take me 176 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: shopping in California. I grew up in North Carolina, and 177 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: I remember coming to California every Christmas break and we 178 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: would go shopping and we would go to like Benetton 179 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: and Gap, like ben like all of those things. And 180 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: I would collect the bags that the clothes would come in, 181 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: and I would hang them on my walls, and so 182 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: I would decorate all the walls with all the shopping bags. 183 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was like, by the way, by the way, 184 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: you should do that again. 185 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: Clea is a gas. I need to see I need 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: to see what it looked like. It was fabulous. It 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: was like an art and slat. 188 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 189 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: It sounds very much like something at the met like 190 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm super into this right now. 191 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: It was like pop art before I knew what that was. 192 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: But anyway, I had this in me, so I was 193 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: like very particular how things would go, and I would. 194 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: Always try to rearrange furniture. 195 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: And then I took a sharp left turn in high 196 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: school and was a complete slob, cheerleading clothes broad in 197 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: the back of my trunk of my car, like everything 198 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: on the floor, absolute total disaster. 199 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: College close to the ceiling, the biggest mess. And then 200 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: I turned a quarter I guess, God. 201 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 4: I don't even know when some time after college, and 202 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: I was like, I need everything in back and order. 203 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: I just can't live like this. 204 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: And I just became obsessed, and especially after I had 205 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: when I was pregnant and after I had Miles, my son, 206 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: just perfecting every closet and every inch matters, and like 207 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: how it makes me feel sane and calm and in 208 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: control and all these things that I didn't have but 209 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, having a newborn or whatever. 210 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've. 211 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: Never looked back. 212 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: It's almost like we do. 213 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: The same thing, honestly, but in a different you know, 214 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: a different angle, like a different facet of the industry, right, 215 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Like there are so many similarities, right, and so for 216 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: me it's like that getting dressed thing. It's a little 217 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: bit like so you guys, your peace of mind is 218 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: like everything in. 219 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: Order, right, And I definitely have a lot of that. 220 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: I do have this part of me that if I 221 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: have five events in a week, you cannot imagine what 222 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: my bathroom and bathtub look like. There's like gowns and 223 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: tool and jewel, like it's just everywhere. 224 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: So a lot of it for. 225 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Me is like a time thing and like just being 226 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: like you know, but I will say that like for me, 227 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: even if it takes me five minutes to get ready 228 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, I can't really like function until I feel 229 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Like I was telling someone the other day, like I 230 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: had COVID once I took me two and a half 231 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: years to get I got it. They said, so what 232 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: did you do like when you had COVID? Did you 233 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: get dressed? And I was like, I was in different 234 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: rotating black robes. My skin hurts so bad that like 235 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: writing hurt, but I had a full cati lash and 236 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: a liplod because I couldn't. It was like I couldn't. 237 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I twirled my hair. Nobody was seeing 238 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: me like I nobody. I lacked everyone out. 239 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: Clayton, I always say this about organizing, and I have 240 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: a feeling and this is sort of maybe how you feel. 241 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but. 242 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: When we're organizing, something just has to click into place, 243 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: and once it's in the right spot, it's just like 244 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: this is right. This is how the space has always 245 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: been intended to be. 246 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: It's true. And I don't know if. 247 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 4: You're like that with I'm not like yes, flowers or 248 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: out any thing. I know nothing about any of those, 249 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: but I can imagine for you you that's how. 250 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: It feels, especially when you're styling somebody else, because you 251 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: look at it like the way you guys share a 252 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: roam in a. 253 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: Space and it like clicks clicks clicks, Yes. 254 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: One hundred. 255 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: But you know what, Rachel, I understand so much. 256 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: I mean I laugh about the like the perfect wing 257 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: on the eye just because I actually don't know how 258 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: to do that. 259 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: But I think about during chemo, where. 260 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: Every single person in my life is like, oh, you 261 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 4: have a pass like you're like live in your pajamas lifts, 262 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: and I kept trying to explain, and then I stopped. 263 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: Trying to explain that I was literally doing. 264 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: It for myself, like putting on makeup, course, and I 265 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: was already like, you're already it like when you have 266 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 4: COVID or whatever, and I have COVID during Campcord, which. 267 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: Is like, that's ruod. 268 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: And I want to touch on that because we've talked 269 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: about this, and I've mentioned it a few times in 270 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: different things. You know, I come from the family of cancer, 271 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: and I also have multiple friends that have gone through it, 272 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: obviously you being one of them. Bravest warrior I ever knew. 273 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I will say that the hardest thing I have seen 274 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: for women is not feeling like a woman and not 275 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: looking like a woman and not and you do take 276 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: everything off and we do get stripped down. It's that 277 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: part of it that makes you feel a certain way. 278 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: And I think to your point, it was truthfully in 279 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: this podcast is not about me, so I don't want 280 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: to turn it on me. But actually, when I quit 281 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: styling right after nine to eleven, I quit styling because 282 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: I felt like it was very superficial. And I said, 283 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore. It means nothing 284 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: compared to like what these social workers, the doctors, the 285 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: frontline workers and everything. And I was like quitting. And 286 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: I turned down all these jobs for like three to 287 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: six months. It's crazy. And my father tried to get 288 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: me back in. And then there's this doctor friend of mine, 289 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: she's actually a brain surgeon, and she was down at 290 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the hospitals, you know, during nine to eleven for that 291 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: whole month's month, and she said, oh my god, tell 292 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: me something about fashion, tell me something. And I said, 293 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I quit. And she said, what do you mean you quit? 294 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: And I said, I quit. I don't want to do 295 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: it anymore. It doesn't mean anything. It's stupid. I'm just 296 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: like it's superficial. And she's like, you've lost your mind 297 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: and I said no, really, like what you do matters, 298 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: what I do doesn't. And she was like, Okay, sit down, 299 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: and she literally sent me down and explained to me 300 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: why it matters, and that how much like my book 301 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: or the things that I do and the way that 302 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I helped women kind of want to get out of 303 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: bed sometimes and do those things. And she talked me 304 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: through this, and so it was at that point I 305 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: shifted literally like the purpose of what I was doing 306 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: and started to sort of try to go in all 307 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: these different directions that were really focused on helping women 308 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: live their best life, Oh, be their most confidence selves. 309 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: That makes so much sense, And I think you inspire 310 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: me one hundred percent. And then I'm like it almost 311 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 4: makes me giggle because I'm like, who am I to 312 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: be inspired by Rachel Zoe, Like, I'm not going to 313 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: have a chance at that, you know, like Joanne and 314 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: I like will leave every time and be like, there's 315 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: no one more glamorous than Rachel in this world but you. 316 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: But you're zero people. 317 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: Maybe Molly too, Like I feel like you, guys both, 318 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: I can't. 319 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: Do the sweats real cute. 320 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: She can like do work out clothes all day and 321 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: still be super cute. And you just wouldn't, Like you 322 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: just wouldn't because you couldn't look cute. 323 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 3: You know, you would look cute. 324 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: But I genuinely like, I can literally see you in pajamas, Yes, 325 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: I could see you. 326 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: And it's not who you are, right, It's just not 327 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: who you are. 328 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: I feel like I ran out into the world naked. 329 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think you rather be naked. 330 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: I actually think you'd rather be naked than it's what 331 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: I feel like. But it is true. You teach people 332 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: and you inspire people to be there. 333 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: I think most beautiful inner glamorous self, you know, like 334 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: you don't necessarily need. 335 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't have everyone you wear, right, it doesn't. 336 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: But I do feel that way about you, and it's 337 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: so genuine and it's so wild because it's not just 338 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: like your public persona, that is who you are as 339 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: a person. 340 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I fully agree. 341 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Don't you got well, don't you own your own infanity? 342 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: You guys? Don't you just say like, I am who 343 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: I am? 344 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: And it's like you get to an age and a 345 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: point in your life where you just go, okay. 346 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: Whenever I know it is I am, I am who 347 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: I am. And it's easier to accept friends for who 348 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: they are too. 349 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly think that's what makes the friendship 350 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: CLEI and I have so powerful. It's like we both 351 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: know who the other person is so right, you meet 352 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: them where they are, that's exactly right. 353 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: So you, guys, I have a question, so you obviously okay, 354 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: So give me like the tune inte of how you 355 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: came together, just for our listeners who don't know, because 356 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I think and then I want to talk about this afterwards. 357 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the copycat effect. Yes, oh, 358 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about that because obviously, like 359 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: we've all been through that, but I do want to 360 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: talk about it because I'm seeing them coming in numbers 361 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: and you're very sensitive to it. With you guys, I'm 362 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: very like. So, so I want to talk about how 363 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: you came together because it was very unlikely, it. 364 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: Is very unlikely. I will give the very bird's eye 365 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: view of it. 366 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: So I moved to Nashville in twenty fifteen, so that'll 367 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: it's coming up on eight years. 368 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: Joanna moved a year and a half prior. And you 369 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: move there? 370 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Why just randomly? 371 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: Your husband, your husband's husband, both of us, both both 372 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: of us, us, both of us moved from California to 373 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Nashville sight unseen. 374 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 375 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: We literally I flew in. 376 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: For thirty six hours to buy a house and then 377 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: flew right back to LA like we had never stepped foot. 378 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: You guys are here and I had never come here 379 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: until I moved here. Say that I came here. 380 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: Thing ever, Joanna and I both think it's insane that 381 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: we said, yes, it is insane. 382 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: But listen, people do it all day every day. 383 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: But it was meant to be. You knows it was 384 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: obviously meant to be. 385 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: We always say that we moved for husband's jobs, and 386 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: now everyone's staying for our jobs. So, but Joanna and 387 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: I met through a mutual friend who basically put us 388 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: in a blind friendship date together to go to lunch. 389 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: Joanna was slightly reluctant to go to lunch with me 390 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: because she did not want a business partner, and Leah 391 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: kind of pitched it as, you guys both want to 392 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: start an organizing company. We both told Leah this, which 393 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: is so random, right, like who wants to start? Well, 394 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: now everyone does, but who wants to start an organizing company? 395 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: And so she was like, oh, I have these two 396 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: friends who both want the same thing. Joanna was hesitant, 397 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: but we sat down and we got up after four 398 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 4: hours of lunch as business partners. And that very same 399 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: day evening, actually we came up with our name, our logo, 400 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: or we got our domain, our social handles. 401 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: We started filling out paperwork. We we opened up bank 402 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: accounts together. That week. It was crazy, no one's but 403 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: it worked. 404 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: And how many years is this now? 405 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: It'll be eight years on all and a half. 406 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Yes, Chris, that's literally crazy, and it's crazy for so 407 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: many reasons because look, you guys, girls are tough, right, Like, 408 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: let's be real, girls are tough. 409 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: We've all had tough girls. We've had amazing girls. 410 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: Right. 411 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: But when I think about it, I think about you know, 412 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, who would I be partners with? Honestly, I 413 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: think probably Mary Elizabeth could be in my business partner 414 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: right right, like right, the only person I might not 415 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: want to like assassinate after first like week. The fact 416 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: that you guys are still this inseparable because I see 417 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: you actually like offline not working, and you guys are 418 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: like an old married couple. 419 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: Honestly, we really are. 420 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: We literally are. 421 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: Again, It's like it goes back to what we said 422 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 4: with you you like, I think all three of us 423 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: we don't really are public persona. 424 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: And private Persona's actually the same thing. Yes, it's just 425 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 3: the same thing. 426 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: We just don't have the patience, I think, to be 427 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: anyone else energy. 428 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: We just are who we are, and Joanna. 429 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: And I it is the craziest thing in my life 430 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: that we are still just this same exact way. 431 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: I don't remember if we told you or not. 432 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: But the house that I'm building, Joanna's building a house 433 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: around the corner for me. So we're actually everyone thinks 434 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: we live together, but now we're basically it's the most 435 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: It's the most clear and. 436 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: Joanna thing we could do. We're building homes. 437 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: Basically next to each other, which is psychotic, but like 438 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 4: spend all her life together to it. I know, I 439 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: just need, we just need to be together, like basically. 440 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: That's literally the greatest and cutest thing ever. Do you 441 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: have a question? Do you guys have sisters? 442 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: I have Joanna does I don't you're. 443 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: Super close with your sister or no? 444 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: You know what she I am in the sense that 445 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: she is the sweetest, the most You're very different, are 446 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: nicer than me? Very different? 447 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: Oh? Stop? What is nicer than you? Stop it now things. 448 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way, she's I say that about 449 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: my sister. 450 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: My sister is like Candy. 451 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: She's like candy sugar next to me, and everyone's like, 452 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, please, trust I look like an asshole. 453 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: Next to her. Johanna's sisters very but I think that's also, 454 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: but you don't clean. 455 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: I don't have a sister, So I'd say Joanna saying yeah, 456 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: because it's funny because I always say that we talk 457 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: like sisters or siblings, and then some people will be like, oh, 458 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: you must not have a sister because Johanna and I 459 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: don't fight. 460 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: We just we don't fight. People think we're fighting, but 461 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: that's just the way you talk. 462 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: But that's my point. But that so that is an 463 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: actual sister thing. Like Jen Meyer and Sarah Foster. 464 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: Are like that totally. They are like sisters. 465 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: Because my sister is my safe person, right who I 466 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: can like scream ahead off at her for like sixty 467 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 1: seconds and like be like what are we eating? You know, 468 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: and then like or sit in the sea room for 469 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: two hours and not say a word and like no, 470 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: I'm pissy about it, you know what I mean. So 471 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: it's like, so I do find you have that relationship 472 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: like we do. Like you'll tell each other if you're 473 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: what you're wearing is freaking hideous. Like I guess what 474 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying is there aren't walls between you, and I 475 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: think that's the difference between a friend and a sister. 476 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to protect what you're saying. 477 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to filter. 478 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: How about that? 479 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 4: It is shocking to Joanna that, like when I was 480 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: in treatment, specifically because you know me, I'm an energizer, bunny, 481 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: I'm a. 482 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: Big extra your a sane person. 483 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: I love being around people. It like gives me energy, 484 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: it gives me life. And when I was in treatment, 485 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 4: I told Joanna there were a few times I was like, 486 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 4: I'm really type, like I don't know if I can 487 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: hang out with this person. Like I went for dinner 488 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: and I got tired at first of all, Joanne is like, welcome, 489 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 4: thank you, I'm tired. 490 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: She was like this is great for me, But she 491 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: also was so shocked. 492 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: She's like, I can't how can you have a friend 493 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: but depletes you, Like how can you have a relationship 494 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: with someone where you can't just not speak? Like how 495 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 4: Because with Joanna, she'll be like, I don't want to 496 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 4: wear you out. 497 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: Like when I was tired and I was like, you 498 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: don't wear me out. 499 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: I was like, you can sit there and I literally 500 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: don't have to talk sure, And she so shook that, 501 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: like anyone in my life isn't that, But it's true. 502 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 4: It's like Joanna is a special person in my life. 503 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: I think I also I think I have too many 504 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 4: people in general, but because Joanna is like I only 505 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: have three friends and I can do that with all 506 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: of them. 507 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: For me, I need to be around people that I 508 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: tell Clea this is like the utmost compliment. 509 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: But it's like you don't count. It's like you're sure 510 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: I only wanted to be around people that don't count. 511 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: But I can be that was the person myself. I 512 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: can sit there quiet or not. We could talk, we 513 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: can laugh or just ignore each other. 514 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: So home at it. 515 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: We have like the show, we have, the products, we 516 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: have the like I wish there was six hundred of you, 517 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Like I wish one of you could just live in 518 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: my guest. 519 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: Room so I could live this organized life. 520 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: It's funny because anytime I meet someone and they're like, oh, yeah, 521 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: you know, we have this business where we like go 522 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: into people's homes and we like go like the home 523 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: out it and listen. There can't be one stylist or 524 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: can't be one hit, Like there can't be one of anything, right, 525 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: and there is the old thing that you know, my 526 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: teamy stay will. Imitation is the best form of flattery. 527 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, why does that not help me? Here doesn't 528 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: help me, It doesn't help right, So so I think 529 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: I like to talk about this because in every journey 530 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: to the top, there are challenges, right, and things that 531 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: concern you when you go to sleep at night or 532 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning. 533 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: You know, things that get under your skin. 534 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: Well, I will say this, and Joanna might have a 535 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: different answer, but I think that things used to get 536 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 4: under our skin way more than it does now. I 537 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: think that, and I think that's normal, right, Like you 538 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: get to a point we had to center ourselves in saying, Okay, 539 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: we have multiple books out, we have multiple seasons of 540 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: a show, we have a very public Instagram count, we 541 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: have launched a thousand ships, and we've. 542 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: Given them the tool. We've given everyone the tools. 543 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 4: We've given everyone what we do and the way we 544 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: do it, so we can't really be upset the people 545 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: have taken those tools and use them to create businesses. 546 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: And truly, if you can inspire, you know, there's just 547 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 4: what you I think also realize is that there's so 548 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 4: much room for everyone in this world. It's just you know, 549 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: if we can inspire, especially you know, female entrepreneurs, come 550 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 4: out do an organizing business like fabulous. 551 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people come up to us 552 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: and they say, like. 553 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: I started doing this because of. 554 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: You, And I actually think that when like I I 555 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 4: think that's a huge compliment to me, is a huge compliment, 556 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 4: and I'm like, wow, that's amazing, so proud of you. 557 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: That's incredible. So I feel like all of that is 558 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: really good. And I think everyone's different. 559 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: When Joanna and I first started an organizing company, the Homeut, 560 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: we looked at all the other professional organizers who were 561 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: doing things very differently, and then we looked at, you know, 562 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 4: someone like Marie Condo, who was also doing it very 563 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: differently and. 564 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Who now apparently came out that she's a slub. 565 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: I know, I was like Marie, like Marie, so but 566 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: again I and I think that she's just going through 567 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: a Joanna I think that I think she'll be back. 568 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: I think she'll be back. That'll just totally right. I'm like, 569 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: she'll be back. 570 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: But I think that from our perspective, we were like, Okay, 571 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: we sit here and we want to try and do 572 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: something that is different, and that that is how we 573 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: ended up with again, like no one was making cursive 574 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: labels back then, like that was silly. Everyone was using 575 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 4: the label maker or something practical. 576 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: We were like, we want to just have a signature. 577 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: We want to have a calling card that represents us. 578 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: And again, that's totally fine. Right now. 579 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: I can't say if I was starting an organizing business, 580 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't look at the two of us and be like, Okay, 581 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: let me find a partner that I really like. 582 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: Let me like try and do something cool on Instagram. 583 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: Let me you know, I get it. We created a 584 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: we emulate what you see, you know. 585 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: And then again, I think we've all been so lucky 586 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 4: to be inspired by people to create, for us, to 587 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: create something, a new version of it, and then to 588 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: hopefully pass the torch on to the next generation that 589 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 4: doesn't even joy or gold. 590 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: Like we're forgetting up there about climbing and hills, you 591 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: know what, climbing and I like climbing in tennis shoes 592 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: seriously barely. 593 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Have I wait, what one of you barefoot at baby 594 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to baby at iguala. 595 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: I feel like it would never be me. 596 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: Oh, I must sneak my shoes off at one point 597 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 4: because I've heard so much I'd rather be bleeding. 598 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: I do want to understand a little bit about the 599 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: go forward for home at It, So home at It 600 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: is larger than life. 601 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: I think everybody knows it. 602 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: For me, the biggest challenge of trying to grow my 603 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: styling business when I was styling full time was that 604 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: they all wanted me to be there. You don't have 605 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: this problem. You have incredible people that work with you. 606 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: But like, my biggest challenge obviously was you know, kind 607 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: of snakes in the grass that worked with me. So 608 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: that's a very common thing with like hairstylists. I hear 609 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: it from makeup artists, I hear it from law firms, 610 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: I hear it from agents managers. So how have you 611 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: guys been so blessed to have incredible people that can 612 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: sort of execute on the home edit vision and dream. 613 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: Initially, hiring was the scariest thing we could ever think, 614 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: of course, and because number one, it's crazy to think 615 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: about replicating your skills and yourself and your work ethic, like. 616 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 3: You know how you work. 617 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: So initially I would say we gored the biggest score 618 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: of our life because we got Sumner and that she 619 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: was our first employee, so she set the path of 620 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: hiring other people. It never got easier to let that 621 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 4: control go. But what we learned really quickly was number One, 622 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 4: people are really talented and good at what they do, 623 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: and we can teach them everything other than the passion. 624 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: As long as someone kind of has that drive and 625 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: that passion and that work ethic, we can teach them 626 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: the organizing. So again, it's like figuring out the type 627 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: of people you want to hire. And I won't say 628 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 4: that every situation has worked out perfectly. And there are 629 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: definitely people who used to work for us who now 630 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: of organizing companies, just like there are people who work 631 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 4: for you that ended up becoming stylists. And I think 632 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: that in some ways it kind of is like launching 633 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 4: other organizing companies in general, Like you just have to 634 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: take a deep breath and steal yourself in your own 635 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 4: confidence that you are really good at what you do 636 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: and that everyone who works for you is really good 637 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: at what they do, and you have to trust to 638 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: a certain extent or like you'll never grows like we would. 639 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 4: You would never grow if we didn't trust, sort of 640 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: never grown, we could never be where we are to say, 641 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 4: trust people. So Joanna, what I'm curious, what I'm sure 642 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: you have other things to add to that. 643 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: What is your take? 644 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 4: No, I would agree completely. I think it was really 645 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 4: hard in the beginning. I mean it's why I didn't 646 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 4: want a business partner, you know. It was the same 647 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 4: reason I'm like, why would I ever want someone to 648 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: be in this world with me when I only can 649 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: count on myself? And so but you know, then I 650 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: sort of had the epiphany that it's like, wow, if 651 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: you meet the right person, this needs one billion times 652 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: better than what I could have ever dreamed of. Sure, 653 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: And so to cleart point, hired Sumner, who was like, 654 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 4: it was like birthing the first best child. 655 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: You could ever dream up. So it's like so lucky. 656 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 4: And so she sort of paved the way that like, yeah, 657 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: other people can absolutely do this and do this well, 658 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: and in order for us to continue to grow, we 659 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: have to trust, yeah, And so like we were only 660 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: going to. 661 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: Get in our own way if we didn't do that. 662 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent. 663 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: And here's the thing take away for that, I want 664 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: to say to anyone like building a business of anything 665 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: of this nature where you have to hire in order 666 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: to grow, you have to It's never about how you leave. 667 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: It's never about leaving it's about how you leave. Yeah, 668 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: that's a thing. Like all of us want everyone to 669 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: live their best life and be their most successful, amazing selves. 670 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's how you do it that matters. 671 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: And that is really for me, the biggest lesson that 672 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: I try to teach kind of twenty somethings now starting 673 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: out in their lives is like, just be straight, Just 674 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: be straight, be professional, be kind, and you will never 675 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: trip over yourself. 676 00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: That's it. 677 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: It's actually so true. It's so true. 678 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: That's the thing is because we would never you would 679 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: never want to stand in away from someone of personality, not. 680 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: To expect people to work for you for the rest 681 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: of their lives. 682 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: Right. 683 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting because you know, it's very for me to 684 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: watch you guys grow to where you are now. I 685 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: think I always am like and you have very big 686 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: personal lives and very big family lives, and so I 687 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: think it's important to do that. What's next for home 688 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: at it? Are there obvious dreams ahead? 689 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 690 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: Well, we got acquired by Hello Sunshine, Reese Witherspoon's company 691 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: in February, and Hello Sunshine is an unbelievable partner for us. 692 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: I mean, they're allowing us to continue to grow the 693 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: home edit in all the ways that, you know, amplify 694 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: all the things that we were already doing with their support. 695 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: It's a dream. It is a dream. 696 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: And one of the dreams that we're going to be 697 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: living out this year is a lot of stuff that 698 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: we had. 699 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: To shelve last year. 700 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 4: I physically couldn't do it, but that meant we physically 701 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: couldn't do it. So we're going to be just you know, 702 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: coming up on this year, we're going to be on 703 00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: the road a lot. 704 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: I can say that we have a few projects that 705 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: are going to be become public projects. 706 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: We have a lot of like media sings and when 707 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: I say media, we have you know, our books, TV podcast, 708 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: all of that. And we're really excited to be in 709 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: person and live again, which we kind of haven't been 710 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: since twenty nineteen. 711 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're really excited that we get to do 712 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: these things and be with people again. 713 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: So I think that to me, and you know how 714 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: I am, I love being with people, so to me 715 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: that's like the most and I love being with Clea, 716 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: so it all ries out. 717 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm just excited. 718 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: Honestly, at this point, the thought of traveling for work 719 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: nothing sounds better, right, nothing sounds better. But I was 720 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: like recounting all of my favorite last moments of twenty 721 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: twenty one. 722 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: So this was in twenty two. 723 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: But I was like thinking about all of like the 724 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: last trips we went on, like we were in d 725 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 4: C during the holidays, as like Joanna and I've had 726 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: so many good trips. 727 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: You guys are literally the cutest. It's so amazing that 728 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: you built the home at it. I know you're like 729 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: really big and fancy now, but I really need you 730 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: to come live with me for a week so we 731 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: all one hundred percent dying here. 732 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm dying. 733 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I can't find anything I don't know or anything is 734 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: and I need rid of fifty percent of it. You know, 735 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: we'll be there, Rachel. I know I just said that, 736 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do that. I'm not going 737 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: I know you're we already know. 738 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: We didn't even listen to get rid of stuff, Like 739 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: we already know that. 740 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: You know. The crazy thing is we've organized of different homes, 741 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: different closets. 742 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I know your inventory. 743 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well good, so you can place it wherever 744 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: you want. 745 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: I really like I feel like I know it, Like 746 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: I even know, like which things are priorities, which things 747 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 4: we could have on higher shel I feel like I 748 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 4: really know it you do, so we could probably yeah, 749 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: you could probably do it quickly. 750 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: But I really just want to say that I love 751 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: everything you guys do. I'm so excited to see, like 752 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: what I feel like you have like another thousand things 753 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: that are about to happen, and I'm so excited. I 754 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: think it's a really great career path for a lot 755 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: of women that I hear from in person or my 756 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: social media, Like, I think that's this sort of really 757 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: big lesson that I think is really important to learn 758 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: from you guys and what you do and live in 759 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: the like cometit state of mind, you know, And I. 760 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: Know, and I feel like Joanna and I could take 761 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: a page out of your book and live in slightly 762 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: more glamorous state. 763 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: Of find but yeah, we live in me a dressed 764 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: every day. 765 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm like, you know what, Rachel like checks that, like, 766 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, I think of her glamorous. 767 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: Okay, we don't. Joanna and I are never going to be. 768 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm just excited when I put jeans on, I barely 769 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: see you in jeans, but. 770 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm like hire jeans. 771 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: She does, I'll do a polish flair thinking. 772 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: About you in sneakers and a boyfriend. 773 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: It's like a disaster. Okay. I love you both so much. 774 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: I love you, love you. 775 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: These two are such a breath of fresh air. I mean, 776 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: they're just two of the hardest, working, beyond hilarious women. 777 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: Every time I talk to Clean and Joanna, I can't 778 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: stop laughing because the way that they they really are 779 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: like an old married couple that have been together for 780 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: like seventy years. That's kind of like how their vibe is. 781 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: And also they're so professional. If they work so hard, 782 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: I think they are just such a good example of 783 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: how to follow your dream and also inspire others and 784 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: that positive, positive female energy and it's just so refreshing. 785 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: And that was a fun one. I really love that.