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Speaker 1: these other positions, you are one snap away from being

428
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Speaker 1: the full time starter again. And the Jets only have

429
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: themselves to blame because they refuse to you know, the

430
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: emotion and the ties they had to that pick. Who

431
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: cares that you drafted them second three years ago? It

432
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: is irrelevant now you held on You're in this situation.

433
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: This is your own doing. It's not anyone's fault. Aaron

434
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers got hurt. Freak deal, maybe the turf maybe not,

435
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: depends who you listen to. But it is your fault

436
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson is the backup that is one on

437
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 1: the Jets. So as this season continues to get very

438
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: ugly because the guy I watched, and I was watching

439
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: a lot of that game just because I was like,

440
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Belichick's really gonna beat them for the fifteenth straight time,

441
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: and he was cruising to a victory. And there was

442
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: a play late in the game Garrett Wilson running right

443
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: across the field on like a drag route and he

444
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: didn't even get it close to him, and they are

445
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: just basic elements to his you know, passing attack. When

446
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: the ball leaves his hand, you have zero faith that

447
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: is going to get remotely close to where he's trying

448
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: to throw. And then there's a lot of other running

449
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: into sacks. It's not obviously their offensive line is a

450
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: work in progress. But Zach Wilson just isn't good. Right.

451
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: We know, and the team had to know. The problem

452
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: is they didn't want to see it because they're too

453
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: emotionally tied to the guy who cares. It's part of

454
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: being a great executive is not being that tied emotionally

455
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: to anybody. The guy better be a star if you're

456
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: going to be emotionally tied to him. But when he

457
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Speaker 1: proves he's not that good, like sports hard, a lot

458
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: of guys aren't that good at that position just because

459
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Speaker 1: you use a second pick, like you got to have

460
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Speaker 1: a better backup, and there were a ton of better

461
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: backup opportunities out there, and they refuse to do it.

462
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: So they're in this situation by their own doing. And

463
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Speaker 1: speaking of by their own doing, this team gets a

464
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Speaker 1: lot of respect, man, because I was traveling today, so

465
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Speaker 1: I had the opportunity I wasn't at my office till

466
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Speaker 1: about four or five in the afternoon to listen to

467
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: a lot of other podcasts just hear what the people

468
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: were saying, and one pretty consistent theme on the Packer

469
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: Saints game. It's like, you know, gonna get the Packers

470
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Speaker 1: some credit, but Carr got injured, so it's hard to

471
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Speaker 1: know if they would have won. And listen, I agree,

472
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Speaker 1: I guess, but the Saints defense has nothing to do

473
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Speaker 1: with Derek Carr. The Saints defense has been excellent all season.

474
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Speaker 1: It wasn't until garbage time last week when they allowed

475
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Speaker 1: a touchdown to the Panthers and they were shutting out

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Speaker 1: the Packers through three quarters. So through four eight eleven

477
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Speaker 1: quarters of football in twenty twenty three, they had allowed

478
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Speaker 1: one touchdown in a two point conversion. Their defense was

479
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Speaker 1: lights out, and whether Derek was on the field or

480
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Jamis was on the field, they were dominating. And Jordan

481
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Speaker 1: love Man and I've said this over and over the

482
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Speaker 1: chances I bet against this working just because history you

483
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Speaker 1: go from Farv to Rogers to just another good player.

484
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Speaker 1: What I was growing up, I've told the story before

485
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: and if you're my age, you watched it. Montana young

486
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Speaker 1: to Garcia, that's an incredible run. If your third quarterback

487
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: is Garcia, a guy that's gonna make Pro Bowls, you

488
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Speaker 1: celebrate it. And the chances that he could even just

489
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Speaker 1: be a fringe pro bowler, just the history would say

490
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: it's slim to none. And I'm not even saying he's

491
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Speaker 1: going to be. But you can't learn how to close

492
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Speaker 1: deals in the classroom. You can't learn at practice just

493
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Speaker 1: because in training camp, I throw up, fourth quarter, we're

494
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Speaker 1: down four, no timeouts, a minute twenty left. How to

495
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Speaker 1: actually do that in the game. You can rep stuff,

496
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: you can try stuff, you can practice stuff. But I've

497
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: always been a big believer and this is what we are.

498
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Motto is at cal Poly. Some say it's the Harvard

499
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: of the West. Learn by doing, and the way you

500
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: learn by doing in football is to play. And I

501
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know how he's gonna look when shit hits the

502
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: fan or things aren't going well. You know, I thought

503
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: in the Falcons game play is great. Down the stretch

504
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: this game it looked really ugly. I was ready to go. God,

505
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna work. And they're

506
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: missing Aaron Jones. Watson hasn't played yet this season, they

507
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: got a ton of guys. They're an active list. Look

508
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: like some of the better players Aaron Rodgers played with.

509
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: And this student made plays. Man made plays with his legs.

510
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Speaker 1: The game winning touchdown he made, I mean he had

511
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: the first touchdown he made with his legs was awesome.

512
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: The two point conversion was sweet. Looked like Aaron Rodgers.

513
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: The touchdown back shoulder pass kind of looked like Rogers. Now.

514
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Speaker 1: To be a good player in the NFL, it's not

515
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: about doing it one time. Zach Wilson last year against

516
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers had one good game. It's about doing it

517
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: over and over and over. And that's just to become

518
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: a good player, right, that's just to become Dak Prescott,

519
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr like a guy somewhere ten to fifteen.

520
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: To be a star, you gotta have elite performances eighty

521
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time. So for this guy just

522
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: to prove he can be your long term starter, long

523
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: way to go. But I say that that's a big,

524
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: like kind of check mark. Fourth quarter should not going

525
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: well against a really good defense at home. You know,

526
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: fans probably getting a little squirrely. Make play after play

527
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: after play legs arms. It's just the eye test. You

528
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: don't need to be you know, John Schneider here or

529
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: less need to watch that guy and then watch some

530
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: of these other quarterbacks go oh, he's way better than

531
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: all those other guys that were drafted the last couple

532
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: of years. The fields, the Zach Wilson's, the Trey lances like,

533
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: there's way more to work with their Now can you

534
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: do it over and over? Only time will tell, But

535
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really impressive win, a really

536
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: impressive There was a moment after they scored the touchdown,

537
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: the two pointer, I think to get it seventeen to

538
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: well the score have been seventeen to eleven where Lafleur

539
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: comes over. And this is what we talk about all

540
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: the time, the difference between defensive head coaches and offensive

541
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: head coaches. A defensive head coach, no matter how good

542
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: the guy is, can give raw Russ beaches, can give

543
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: me some fist pumps, but they don't impact the scheme,

544
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: the play calling. And there is something special when your

545
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: head coach is the offensive coordinator, which essentially makes him

546
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: also kind of the quarterback coach. Like it's all you

547
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: know bundled under one kind of area, even though you

548
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: have a quarterback coach and got other position coaches. But

549
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: like I'm the one calling the plays. I talked to

550
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the floor went right over and boom

551
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: pulled out another drive. Was that was a big time win.

552
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: A couple more things coordinators really matter. By the time

553
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: you've heard this, everyone's talked a bunch of shit about

554
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: Denver and them giving up seventy points as well as

555
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: they should, and McDaniel looks like, I mean, I don't

556
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: even his team looks like a video game right now.

557
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: But one thing happened between the two guys this offseason.

558
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel because when he got hired, didn't have that

559
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: much juice, Like, not many people were gonna hire him.

560
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Different guy, definitely doesn't look the part, doesn't speak like

561
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: other coaches. He was not a lock to get an

562
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: NFL job, especially as quickly as he got it. So

563
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: when he got high last year at Miami, I'm pretty

564
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: sure the organization forced him to keep the defensive coordinator rightfully,

565
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: so they got rid of floors. Their defense was really

566
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: good last year. Their defense was a joke, so he

567
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: needed he fired his defensive coordinator needed a guy. Sean

568
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Payton knew he was going into a job right where

569
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: at least had visions of returning. So when you have

570
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: visions of returning and you're a guy like Sean Payton,

571
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: your staff, like, you got a pretty good idea of

572
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: some core pieces. And one thing Sean Payton really wanted

573
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: to do, he said, they had been talking about it

574
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: and the plan was for them to work together was

575
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Speaker 1: to hire Vic Fangio. And obviously, once he accepts the

576
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Denver job, Fangio was never gonna take that defensive coordinator job.

577
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: He had literally just got fired from them, right And

578
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I looked at some quotes today, had admitted

579
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: as such in early February. I think it was at

580
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: the combine, or maybe right before the combine, he said, Listen.

581
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I tried to twist his arm. I basically begged him

582
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: to come, but he just wasn't gonna do it. He

583
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: just had been relieved of his duties a year before.

584
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: And me like, when you take that job, if you're

585
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, you gotta have a pretty good idea. This

586
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: guy's never coming here, So who's going to be my

587
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: next best option? And it didn't really feel like he

588
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: had one, because I bet in his mind this entire

589
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: football season, maybe he didn't know he was going to

590
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: go to Denver. Maybe they made him too good of

591
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: an offer to refuse on his own when they give

592
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: him ninety hundred million dollars. But Vic Fangio is going

593
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: to be his DC and then he goes Denver. Vicians

594
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: are like, bro, I'm not going there, and McDaniel hires

595
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Vivvangil because listen, now, I didn't know, just like anybody,

596
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: that he could score seventy points. Who in a million

597
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: years would guess you could score seventy points? I think,

598
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about today walking the dog. If

599
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: I was a team, if I was a coach, if

600
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I was a fan, I would rather lose fifty to three,

601
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: fifty five to three, then seventy to twenty, because even

602
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: if you get in the low fifties, that's still multiple

603
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: more touchdowns, two or three more touchdowns to get to

604
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Speaker 1: that seventy number. And here's the other thing. And I

605
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: know McDaniel, they asked him why he didn't kick the

606
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: field goal to break the record. Listen, if you told

607
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: me the record happened, in the eighties or the nineties,

608
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: it would hold more weight to me. I'm not trying

609
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: to act like Mickey Mantle or Willie May's couldn't play

610
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: just because they played in the fifties or sixties. But

611
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, nineteen sixty six football like there's it's not

612
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: really comparable. Having seventy points scored on you in twenty

613
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: twenty three is dramatically worse than what happened in nineteen

614
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: sixty six and should be the new NFL record because

615
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: that is something you never forget. And this gets back

616
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: to Sean Payton. So once he couldn't get Vic Fangio,

617
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: he hires Vance Joseph. Sean, have you watched this guy? Coach?

618
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys share an agent? How does this make

619
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: any sense? What do you think is gonna happen when

620
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph is your defensive coordinator? I understand like your

621
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: plan was to get Fangio. What you had to have

622
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: a backup plan because you knew other people are gonna

623
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: be begging for services. And I credit Mike who listen.

624
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like the seventy to twenty

625
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: game was about Fangio. But in the macro perspective. Here,

626
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is going to do wonders and give Mike

627
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: a chance to win games like this week against the

628
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and a hot Josh Allen again, playoff games

629
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Speaker 1: against Andy Reid and the kan See Chiefs. It's not

630
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: even just about individual games. It's about what it's gonna

631
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: do for you this year, next year, for the next

632
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: several years. Look at Andy Reid. Ever since he went

633
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: back to Spagnola, their defense now is arguably one of,

634
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: if not the best in the league, at least through

635
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: three games, depending on what metric you look at. So

636
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: having a high end defensive coordinator when you're the offensive

637
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: play caller, let's think about this. During the week, you're

638
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: not only leading meetings, you are game planning. You're the

639
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: guy calling the plays. So the amount of time you

640
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Speaker 1: spend during the week on offense, I would say, is

641
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Speaker 1: even skewed that it would be for a CEO level

642
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: head coach because it's on you come game day. So

643
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: guys like Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel look at I give

644
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to Kyle Shanahan and Sean mc

645
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: they hire really good coordinators. When Sean McVay got hired.

646
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: What do you do? Hired Wade Phillips right then what

647
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: does he do? Goes with Brandon Staley who for whatever

648
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: reason had a really good year. What was he do now?

649
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: Rahee Morris, I watched the Rams defense playing really well,

650
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan sala Demiico Wilkes, Like, that's what you're gonna hire.

651
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you ninety one hundred million dollars. You're

652
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: gonna go with Vance Joseph who think about this? He

653
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: also was the Broncos head coach and fired. Now he's

654
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: a Colorado guy, so I guess it's a little different,

655
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: like going home a little more time in between stints.

656
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: But still that's what I mean. You can talk about

657
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Sean Payton about a lot of things, gutless effort from

658
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: his team, but like, that's who you're gonna, you know,

659
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: pin your success on because you're gonna need him because

660
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: you have nothing to do with defense. I've seen you

661
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: with bad defenses like you are very your success as

662
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: a team is very predicated on who the guy is

663
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: coaching on that side of the ball. So Sean Payton's

664
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: got serious issues. And last but not least, the Bills

665
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are coming. It shows you sometimes and listen,

666
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: we're all human. You wait nine months for week one,

667
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Week one happens. Chiefs lose, the Bills lose, both in

668
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: prime time spots. Chiefs have a million drops, Kelsey's on

669
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: the sideline. Chris Jones is up with the two mafia

670
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: guys the Bills. Aaron Rodgers tears as achilles a minute

671
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: into the game. They still can't win. Alan's throwing picks

672
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: left and right. You're like, what is something off? Then

673
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: two weeks later they win this weekend by a combined

674
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: seventy eight to thirteen. They I didn't even really watch

675
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: the Bills Commanders game. Didn't need to. That was an

676
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: ass kicking. The Chiefs first half against the Bears looked

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: like Alabama playing UC Davis or cal Pauly. That was

678
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: a joke. That was every bit. That first half was

679
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: as every bit as bad as any stretch in the

680
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: in the Bronco Miami game. It was that level. The

681
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: Chiefs only did it for a half. The Dolphins did

682
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: it for like three and a half. But it was

683
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: just like you, you guys are a joke. And one

684
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: thing you see about the Bills man and this is

685
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: the only My only question about them was what's going

686
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: on with Josh Allen Well last couple weeks been good.

687
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Did throw a pick against Washington, ran for a touchdown,

688
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: threw for a touchdown last week, had four touchdowns. Mahomes

689
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: look brilliant. Kelsey now we'll get into him in the

690
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: second looks awesome. Chris Jones sack a game, looks sweet.

691
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Their defense, all those dbs they've drafted the last couple

692
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: of years making plays. You know, they're just They're good,

693
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: they really are, and just sometimes you just listen. It's

694
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: human nature. We overreact. But it turns out those teams

695
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: are fine. And I'm gonna end on this Morgan and Morgan,

696
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: a player that made it look easy. This can only

697
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: go to one guy. I'm not a huge Taylor Swift guy. Though.

698
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: Back to December. If you go to YouTube and watch

699
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: the live version, I think at the CMA's like fifteen

700
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: maybe twelve years ago. Fantastic love that song. I'll never

701
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: dispute her talent. You know, she's I think it's cute.

702
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her like most beautiful woman I've ever seen,

703
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: but I get it. I get it and her success

704
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: as an artist as a businesswoman speaks she's a movement

705
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: in herself. The Swifties. Not even quite sure what that is.

706
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: I guess it just means you're a diehard fan. Is

707
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: that like being a Jets fan? Like I'm a Jets

708
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: fan or I'm a forty nine er fan, I'm a Swifties,

709
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: same thing. But clearly when Travis has been talking about

710
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: it through his podcast, like I think he knew, like

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00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: if my guess is they've been talking for a little

712
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: bit longer. But on a day when the football wasn't

713
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: that great, especially the afternoon slate to open up that

714
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: game with Taylor Swift sitting with the Kelsey's mom and

715
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: then he eventually gets a touchdown. I have said it,

716
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: I'll say it every week. Best reality show on television.

717
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: I see the Bachelor, Bachelorette or Bachelor is going like

718
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: with the you know, the mid fifties version with it.

719
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Call him that the Golden Bachelor or something. It's like

720
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: a guy with kind of gray hair, a bunch of

721
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: older women that doesn't hold a candle to what you

722
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: get in the NFL. It it doesn't get any better.

723
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: You can't script this the star tight end on the

724
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: kanc Chiefs that are in the midst of a current

725
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: dynasty is dating the most popular famous singer. That was

726
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: cool and everyone's joking about it. You got Walter payton

727
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Son taking a picture of her, Travis give him the look,

728
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: Andy Reid joking about the set her up, all the memes,

729
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: it just it doesn't get It doesn't get any better.

730
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: I found that so entertaining. I've seen I've read a

731
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: million memes, tweets, instagrams. It made a boring afternoon. Just

732
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: put a smile on your face and U NFL baby

733
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift looking forward to them eloping here

734
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: sooner or later. So Morgan and Morgan player who made

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Speaker 1: it look easy? Go to four of the people dot

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Speaker 1: com slash John John or pound Law that's pound five

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Speaker 1: two nine from your cell phone for the People dot

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Speaker 1: Com slash John. If you're ever injured, go check out

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Speaker 1: Morgan and Morgan. Okay, before we dive into the middle

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Speaker 1: cop mailbag at John middlecoff as the Instagram fire in

741
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: those dms, I wanted to hit on two things really quick,

742
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this with Colin on Sunday Night. Like

743
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: the notion of everyone freaking out about Brandon Staley going

744
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: for it? Have you guys not been watching Brandon coach?

745
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: I read flagged this guy his first year as a

746
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: head coach because beside his one year as a defensive

747
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Rams, I knew nothing about him. So

748
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: it's not like I had some big opinion on the

749
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: guy going into his tenure as the Chargers head coach.

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00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: But for those of us that live on the West Coast,

751
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: we just get a lot of regional before you know. Now,

752
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: YouTube TV makes it's so easy, But I never really

753
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: had the package because I got so many games doubleheaders,

754
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: and I got a lot of AFC and a NFC

755
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: West games and those are the know the divisions I watch.

756
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: And then any other game that I need to watch

757
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: for my work, I just go on the iPad and

758
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: watch the condensed version rewinds. But I watch a ton

759
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: of Charger games. Play the Chiefs, play, the Broncos play

760
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders, like I just I get a lot of

761
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: their local games and I have my entire life, so

762
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: I watch them. And Brandon Staley has been going for

763
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: it at insane times his entire career as the head coach.

764
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: For the Chargers for two years and now three games.

765
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: So the freak out, I how did he go for it?

766
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: They had no timeouts left. Just plunt it and make

767
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: him go. That's what he does. My issue with him

768
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: is I think he's a fraud when he talks. And

769
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: he's not a good defensive coordinator as the head coach.

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00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: So maybe he would have been a defensive coordinator if

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00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: that's his only role, and he was in his one

772
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: shot with the Rams, but when he became the head

773
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: coach and he also has to be the leader, he's

774
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: the coordinator. They get gashed. But he could be at

775
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: the one yard line, he could be at any yard

776
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: line throughout the field. It has to go ninety nine yards.

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00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: He will go for it if the percent, the analytics,

778
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever makes him go for it. But

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00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: that is him his mo. So when he went for it,

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00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: I was I couldn't have been any less surprised. My

781
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: issue was in that game was they were just getting gashed.

782
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: Wide open holes in the run game, passing game coverages

783
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: all over the map. No one knows what they're doing.

784
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: My issue with him is I watch his defenses and

785
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: I think they are poorly coached because no one knows

786
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: where to be and they are constantly wide open. Guys,

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00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: it looks like when good college teams play bad college teams,

788
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: it's like, not fair, But this is the NFL. Even

789
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: if you don't have the personnel right, it's not like

790
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: the Texans have a great roster or the Cardinals have

791
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: a great roster, but they're playing their ass off and

792
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: you watch him play, it looks like they're all on

793
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: the same page. So even if you don't have the talent,

794
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose to a lot of the better teams.

795
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Like Arizona's gonna lose the Niners, and they're gonna lose a Seattle,

796
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: They're gonna lose the Rams. I'm sure maybe split that,

797
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: but like they're gonna be in position at least they

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00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: have been so far. Same with Demiko in the Texans.

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00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: My ishoe with Brandon Stale is that never takes place,

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00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: but going for it like that's that's kind of defined

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00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: his head coaching career, going for it, So I don't

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00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: even know. I a little stunned at the reaction, also

803
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: stunned at the reaction for Dan Lanning. Listen, I've enjoyed

804
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: the Dion experience just making a program that was completely

805
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: irrelevant relevant. I don't have some like crazy takes over

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00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: everything he says. And I think a lot of people

807
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: in the quote unquote media or the talk are trying

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00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: to get in good with him. Listen, it doesn't bother

809
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: me at all. I don't care one way or the other.

810
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that he's coming to college football and

811
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: made a program relevant. But like when you're constantly talking

812
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: a big game the other team, and in college football,

813
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna play teams he did last week, He's gonna

814
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: play him this week that are way better than him.

815
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: So when when he does that, they're allowed to talk

816
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: shit back. They're allowed to say whatever they want the reaction.

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00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: And I saw some clips of like Ryan Clark and

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00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: different people like going after Dan Lanning. Dan Lanning can

819
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: say whatever he wants to motivate his team to get

820
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: his guys ready for recruiting. No different than dionn The

821
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: difference is his team's fucking good. Why because they've been

822
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: good for twenty five years now. They've been a power,

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00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean a power for about a decade. They've had

824
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years being a little off for the

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00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: most part. Once Chip took over, they have been a

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00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: top ten level program. They're gonna look at Colorado all

827
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: their players, and that's who he's talking to is they

828
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: don't belong on the field with us, especially with Travis

829
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Hunter out. The point of college football, when you're a

830
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: big dog, when you're Oregon, when you're sc when you're Oklahoma,

831
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Speaker 1: when they're good, when you're Alabama, when you're Georgia, when

832
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: you're Ohio State, when you're in Michigan, you look to

833
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: belittle the opponent. You look to embarrass them, whether their

834
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: coach talks a lot or not. That's how you operate.

835
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: So the reaction to the Dan Lanning clip, which I

836
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: thought was pretty funny, they're playing for clicks, playing for wins.

837
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, well, they play for clicks too with all

838
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: their it's not the point. He's just talking shit to

839
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Speaker 1: get his guys motivated to go out and beat the

840
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: shit out of Colorado, which they did right, just like

841
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: Dion's gotta say some crazy stuff to motivate his guys.

842
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: That's their job. These guys are motivating people. I don't

843
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: understand how everyone gets so worked up, especially these former players.

844
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's not that deep. It really is just

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00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: college football coaches getting the boys ready right, and Dan Lanning,

846
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's a defensive guy, so there's just gonna

847
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: be some natural raw raw into his shit talking. Who

848
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: usually has better raw raw halftime or pregame speeches in

849
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: football when we get you know, whether it's hard knocks

850
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: or any inside look, it's usually the defensive side of

851
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: the ball. YouTube Kirby and Nick and Urban's and offensive guy,

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Speaker 1: Let's give it into the mailbag at John middle Coffe

876
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: is the Instagram firing the dms. The Dolphins offense is

877
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: so far beyond everyone else it's making teams like the

878
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Patriots and Jets unwatchable. Are the Fins just that much better?

879
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: Or do you think there is a lack of talent

880
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and maybe more importantly, lack of offensive creativity for the

881
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: for other NFL teams? Well, who's an explosive player on

882
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense? Mac Jones as average as the day

883
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: is long, so why listen. I missed on Justin Fields,

884
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: but I was dead right on Mac Jones. It was

885
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: a it would have been a fireable offense. Drafting at

886
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: number three, it would have. And Kyle Shanahan's got multiple

887
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: extensions since, so you couldn't do it. And he's he's

888
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: been worse probably than I even imagined. But look who

889
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: he's playing with, right the Jets have Garrett Wilson, then

890
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: who else. Breese Hall is a good player, but at

891
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: this point in time, once Aaron's you know in La

892
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: listen to Dolphins have sex, He's just put seventeen guys

893
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: in the box. So the running backs aren't gonna be

894
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: able to do much. And Zach Wilson, as we talked

895
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: about earlier, not ideal. Part of it is like Tyreek

896
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Hill is one of the greatest players in NFL history.

897
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Think about that, one of the greatest players in NFL history.

898
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: That's how good the guy is. Jalen Wattle is a

899
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: stud Raheem Morris is one of the fastest running backs

900
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. His play speed in the open field

901
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: when he gets a lane is stupid, like it's it

902
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: looks like he's, you know, in a Ferrari, he's so fast,

903
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: and then the other dude, they got fast too. We

904
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: used to say the same thing about you know the

905
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: chiefs now is is is too good enough to maintain this.

906
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: He's playing damn well, and he's just their offensive creativity

907
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: them their group as a unit looks pretty special. So yeah,

908
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say the only other team that

909
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: I think the Niners are averaging thirty points the Bills

910
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: these last couple weeks. But you score seventy points in

911
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: a game, Damn, it's wild love the show? Is it

912
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: time for the Steelers to let go of Tomlin? I

913
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: know the man is a good coach, his record is

914
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: great and he hasn't ever had a losing season, But

915
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: year after year they've not been living up to the

916
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: expectations of what the Steelers usually accomplish. Being average or

917
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: above average in the NFL never gets you anywhere, and

918
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I feel like they need a change the direction. I

919
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: maybe I am graduating from college this May, and I

920
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: have not seen a Steelers win a Super Bowl since

921
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: I was in third grade. God, that makes me feel old.

922
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: You're in third grade. No. Nine. I don't expect teams

923
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: to reach deep into the playoffs and win Super Bowls

924
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: every year. But the expectations for the Steelers must be

925
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: higher than other teams, especially with the history behind them.

926
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Should we stop the never losing record hype and consider

927
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: letting him go? I think the one thing you have

928
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: to question is the Steelers are always going to be

929
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: good on defense. It's the culture of their franchise. They

930
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: know what to look like, look for in draft picks.

931
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean the room. He's just they just get it

932
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: to me. It starts with ownership on defense, from Hayward

933
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: to when they trade for Minka to TJ. They just

934
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: get it right. Offensively, Let's face it, since Ben was younger,

935
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: and Todd Haley and AB and some of those guys,

936
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: they're just kind of men. And Tomlin can't influence that.

937
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: I talked about it with Colin on SAT Sunday night.

938
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: He could give incredible raw ross speeches. I would like

939
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: to hang out with Mike Tomlin. But he can't impact,

940
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: can he Pickett? He can't impact the offensive scheme just

941
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: like what was. And I'm not comparing Tomlin to Vic Fangio,

942
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: but you give these great defensive coordinators disaster offensive situations

943
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: and they can't do anything about it. There's nothing like

944
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio is an elite defensive coordinator, but you make

945
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: them a head coach and he doesn't get a big

946
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: time offensive coordinator slash player on offense. He's kind of

947
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: in trouble. So my point being is that I just

948
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: don't know how the offense ever looks different with this personnel.

949
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: The defense is gonna be fine. TJ. Watt looks like

950
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get seventy five sacks this year. But Najie

951
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: Harris looks slow to me and doesn't have great vision.

952
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: He's just kind of meh. And I was rooting for

953
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: Najie Harris. Manaji Harris guy dating back to high school.

954
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: Canny Pickett. You know, he just he doesn't have the

955
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: physical attributes of the top guys, so he can only

956
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: do so much. He's very dependent on the scheme, and

957
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: clearly they're running scheme. I mean they struggle to run

958
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't necessarily know who you hire, but

959
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: it's clearly like, look at McDaniel, Miami gets him. He

960
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: just like revitalized. As an understatement, I mean, he just

961
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: makes them a powerhouse. Kyle and San Francisco McVeigh in

962
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They impact the offensive personnel, and I think

963
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the if you're looking at the pie chart, obviously leadership

964
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: and motivation and handling pressure, that stuff is so important,

965
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: and Tomblin can do that, especially a franchise which is

966
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: probably a top five NFL franchise. I'm not even talking value.

967
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about importance the fan base. But he

968
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: can only do so much with the offensive side. So

969
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: I but but who, Like, who's Sean McVay or Kyle

970
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Shannan are you hiring? That's the problem. I think that's

971
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: where they're kind of stuck, like what are they gonna do?

972
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: Fire him and hire like Nick Sirianni and keep their

973
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: fingers crossed? Right, Kyle Shannan wasn't kylech or Sean McVay

974
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: until a couple of years in you realize, oh, you

975
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: couldn't fire Mike Tomlin for that guy. Sounds easy in

976
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: theory when you watch these other top offensive coordinators, but

977
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: it's harder to actually execute it. One other note on Russell,

978
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well since mo Ed passed. I think

979
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: that was like a mental coach. Haven't seen that discuss anywhere.

980
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: Trevor is a performance coach super tight. Yeah, it's it

981
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: was hard because you know when sometimes when me and

982
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: Colin are on zoom to like argue over it. And

983
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Russell and Sean not working out.

984
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: But the other day, like that was that Al's on

985
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, that l's not on Russell Wilson. Though even

986
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: if he was Seattle's superstar Russell Wilson, they're still losing

987
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: that game. But that those days are over, I think

988
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: we have to acknowledge that. So anyone being like that

989
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: was not on him. He's been fine, That's true, he's

990
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: been fine. They're paying him forty five million dollars a

991
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: year though the defense historic embarrassment, historic embarrassment. But Russell,

992
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: it's just has not been the same guy. And he's

993
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: not the same guy now. So I don't really even

994
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: know what to say. What's gonna happen at this point.

995
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: It's listen, I understand people the narrative that he sucks.

996
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: He's still yeah, he's okay, but they're paying him like

997
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: a top five guy, and at one point in time

998
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: in his career he was a top five guy. I

999
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: feel like the Russell Wilson narrative is really out of control.

1000
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: He's objectively better than last year and somehow is taking

1001
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: the blame. I listen. I don't disagree. I agree with

1002
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: him just sucking is, but also like he kind of

1003
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: is the macro like in the micro against the Dolphins,

1004
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: Russell is not the issue. On the macro, he is

1005
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: the issue. He just is because Sean Payton is the

1006
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator slash offensive guy. So if him and Russell like,

1007
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: is he better? Of course he is. Sean Payton is

1008
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: dramatically better than Nathaniel Hackett is just an offensive play

1009
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: caller right, not even close. But vance Joseph is a

1010
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: separate issue, which we talked about earlier. I do believe

1011
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: that Russell big picture is a problem for the Broncos.

1012
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: Are there given takes? I mean there, I said a million.

1013
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: I saw a million takes on Dan Landing today that

1014
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: made me just want to throw up in my mouth.

1015
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: It was just so stupid. But I do think the

1016
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: macro issue with Russell is a problem. Been listening for

1017
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: about a year now and I tell everyone I know

1018
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: to listen to the podcast. I like this guy. I've

1019
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: gotten smarter about the game. God my type of human,

1020
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: So thank you so three weeks, Jordan Love has not

1021
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: been great completion percentage wise fifty six percent. However, watching

1022
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: the game, it appears that he's making the right weeds reads,

1023
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: taking away Dobbs and Watson hasn't even suited up yet

1024
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: this season, so everyone else at the wide receiver and

1025
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: tight end position are rookies. Will as completion percentage as

1026
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: his wide receivers gained more NFL experience, should improve. I

1027
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: would be very excited. We talked about him earlier. It's

1028
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: it's a very very good moment that happened on Sunday

1029
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: one that you can't manipulate. One that you can't figure

1030
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: out in practice. You have to figure you can't figure

1031
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: out in the classroom. You figure it out on the

1032
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: field in the fourth quarter, and he showed to Moxie.

1033
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: But like, I just think this entire season is gonna

1034
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: be and probably he's gonna get two years at this

1035
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: rate unless something goes dramatically wrong. Is an incredible time

1036
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: to evaluate him on a daily basis in the facility,

1037
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: how he works as the starter, how he is as

1038
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: a team mate, how he is through the good times

1039
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: the bad times. Right, he has a rough game against

1040
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: the Saints two weeks ago, especially in the second half,

1041
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: or excuse me, I guess they just played the Saints.

1042
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: Who they play? Oh, the Falcons two weeks ago. Like

1043
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that game was there for him.

1044
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: Now you're right, he's miss Watson. They're an active list.

1045
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: Was like Watson Bactiari Jones the running back. So yeah, man,

1046
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: I'd be excited sometimes in football even if the guy

1047
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: doesn't turn out to be Aaron Rodgers, which news flash,

1048
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: he's not going to be. It's cool to have what

1049
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: you're having. I've said it all along. If he can

1050
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: just be from you know, they went from Joe Montana

1051
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: to Steve Young to Jeff Garcia. No one's putting Jeff

1052
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Garcia in the Hall of Fame, but those couple of

1053
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: years when the dude was like a legitimate Pro Bowl

1054
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: quarterback did not suck. I remember it. I was in

1055
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: high school. It wasn't Steve Young, but it was pretty

1056
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch then whin double digit games to go

1057
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. If Jordan Love is just your Jeff Garcia,

1058
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: I would be freaking really excited. He was going. Like

1059
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: back in the Pro Bowl when everyone went and they

1060
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: didn't back out like he was going to real Pro Bowls.

1061
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: If Jordan Love makes a Pro Bowl in the next

1062
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: two years, that's an all time draft pick. Simple question,

1063
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: Why does Brandon Saley still have a job? Been talking

1064
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: about this team for a long time that their owner's cheap.

1065
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to what I talked about earlier.

1066
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: When he goes for it, and he's not alone, right,

1067
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: A lot of teams now. If you're my age, if

1068
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: you're over thirty years old and you've been watching football

1069
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: for several decades, you will see coaches go for it

1070
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: now in situations that they never have in NFL history.

1071
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: And they're doing it because the charts that they have

1072
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: on when to and when not to and the guy

1073
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: telling him typically a mathematician, a stat major from a

1074
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, highly touted university. The owner's cool with it.

1075
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: This starts from the top. The owner gives the go ahead, right,

1076
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Like why when you're a little kid and I was

1077
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: just home for the weekend and one parent tells the

1078
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: little kid no, he goes to the other parent because

1079
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: he's hoping to get a yes. Right, So, if the

1080
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: owner's telling you, you're insane doing that, and the gms

1081
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: like do not do that. Coaches will not do it.

1082
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: But when the owner's like, do it, we want you

1083
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: to do it. We want you to listen to this guy.

1084
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: We're paying this guy from you know, Wharton or Harvard

1085
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: or Stanford or cow or whatever a lot Vanderbilt a

1086
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: lot of money, three four hundred grant. Who know, these

1087
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: guys make way more than you'd think, and their only

1088
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: job is to kind of run the percentages and have

1089
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: them ready do whatever the numbers say. And I think

1090
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley does that a lot. And as you saw,

1091
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: and I've heard a lot of people talk about it,

1092
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: there was like a eighty eight percent win percentage if

1093
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: he got it and eighty two percent win percentage if

1094
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: he punted. So he played the percentage even though there

1095
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: are seven million variables that those percentages don't take into account.

1096
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Like they're running game stinks and they got denied and

1097
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: got kind of lucky. But he's I don't even I

1098
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: think it would have been a fireable offense if he

1099
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: would have lost that game, not because he went for it,

1100
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: because you just can't lose to the Minnesota Vikings when

1101
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: your quarterback was forty to forty seven for four yards

1102
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think it would have been a lock

1103
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: that he would have lost his job. Wouldn't have shocked me,

1104
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think it was a guarantee the Chargers.

1105
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: You know this is the Chargers. After witnessing the Justin

1106
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: Fields meltdown, would you, as a team or scout red

1107
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: flag any college position combos coming out of future drafts

1108
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: such as Ohio State quarterbacks. Failures like Fields prior would

1109
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: have me avoiding the program in the quarterback position. I

1110
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: think he got to be very careful with that. One

1111
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: thing I've learned, not even just from being in the

1112
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: NFL but doing what I do now and following the

1113
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: stuff so closely, is like every player is his own

1114
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: individual entity, right, I mean Joe Burrow, what's upon a

1115
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: time went to Ohio State. So you got to be

1116
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: very careful with that, because for a long period of

1117
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: time you could say, this guy saw this program soft,

1118
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: this program stinks, this program's good. Now, there are themes

1119
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: with certain coaches. Right, if you draft a defensive player

1120
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: from Utah or from Michigan, you probably feel pretty good

1121
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: about it. Right, if you draft an offensive player from

1122
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, it's usually the guy's pretty talented, but just

1123
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: because the offense that they've ran for however long now

1124
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State, though it's changed from trestle to urban now

1125
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: to Ryan Day, it's constantly adapting. I don't think you

1126
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: can play that just because Danny Wirfol and Tim Tebow suck.

1127
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what if Caleb Williams had gone to Florida.

1128
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, you can't draft the Florida quarterback.

1129
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: You can't play that game. I do think you need

1130
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: to take it into account when a player is in

1131
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: a certain offense, right look at the Oregon guys. Historically,

1132
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: when Chip and Helfrich were there, you had to be

1133
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: very careful. I thought, you know, the Mariota, I never

1134
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: liked Mariota as much. Now he's worse than I thought

1135
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: he would be in the NFL. But I the hype

1136
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: machine on him coming out I thought was pretty crazy.

1137
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: But I think that's a long winded way of saying

1138
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: you cannot do that because early on in Saban's tenures,

1139
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: like oh, he runs them all into the ground. You

1140
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: get a Nick Saban player, they're all out of juice.

1141
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: I look around the NFL and see a lot at

1142
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: good Alabama players now but early on it was like,

1143
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, some of their running backs kind of busted.

1144
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Just some of their players were not as good as

1145
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, as professionals as they were as many professionals

1146
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: in Alabama, you know who was doing nil before the nil.

1147
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: So I guess that's a long winded way of saying

1148
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: you just you got to scout every player for himself. Hey,

1149
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: John good takes this year. I think your Steelers pick

1150
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: will age. Well. My question for the pod is there

1151
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: precedent for firing a defensive coordinator midyear with a more

1152
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: offensively offensive minded head coach? Offensively minded head coach. Sometimes

1153
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I can't read. I I wonder what question you're asking here.

1154
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: I guess maybe Sean Payton with fans, Joseph, I would say,

1155
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's been coordinator fired in every individual situation.

1156
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: A defensive coordinator fired with a defensive head coach, a

1157
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator fired midseason with an offensive head coach. I

1158
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: would say, a coordinator has been fired in college in

1159
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: pro football in every situation that the offensive and defensive

1160
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: puzzle you can put together. I can't think of one

1161
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: right now, but you know, I guess it's flip flop.

1162
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, last year, did he fired a dB coach?

1163
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking Dan Campbell fired his dB coach, but

1164
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: he kept his defensive coordinator and he's an offensive head coach.

1165
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: How should the Titans approach this season? Personally, don't believe

1166
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: any quarterback on the roster is the future. Vrabel is

1167
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: way too good to let the team get into a

1168
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: position for one of the top quarterback prospects. Are they

1169
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: headed for quarterback purgatory with the timeline not setting up

1170
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: to to draft high enough. I'm concerned. I think one

1171
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: thing the hardest thing to get in football, obviously is

1172
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: mahomes are Josh Allen, but those guys are so few

1173
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: and far between. The second hardest thing, and honestly it's

1174
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: probably one be and depending on your situation, it might

1175
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: be one A is getting Mike verbel So. The most

1176
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: important thing the Titans need They have in Mike vverybel So.

1177
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: Even if you end up winning six games and drafting ninth,

1178
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: why can't they find a quarterback in the second or

1179
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: third round that he can win with. They found Ryan

1180
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: Tannehill and they won a lot of games with them

1181
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: when most people did not think he was any good

1182
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: and remember when they got him, he was Mario's backup.

1183
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: So I know you guys have drafted a ton of

1184
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: third and second round quarterbacks the last couple of years,

1185
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: but who cares? Just move on. I'm a big believer

1186
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: in modern day NFL with the money sunk costs. Move on,

1187
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: guy can't play. See audios, godspeed. If Will Levis isn't

1188
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: the guy, whatever, draft another quarterback. You're in a shitty

1189
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: spot because you don't have a quote unquote franchise quarterback.

1190
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: When's the last time he had a franchise quarterback. When's

1191
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: the last time he had a coach this good? I

1192
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: know Jeff Fisher went to a Super Bowl. I think

1193
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: we'd all agree that Rabel's a better coach. Like if

1194
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: you had a coach draft Fisher in his prime or

1195
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel in his prime, You're going for Abel. Okay,

1196
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: last question. Absolutely distraught Bears fan. Had no belief the

1197
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 1: Bears would win, but this is worse than I've ever

1198
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: felt as a Bears fan. I'm also an Ohio State fan,

1199
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: so I held on as much hope for Justin as

1200
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: long as possible. But it's over. I truly believe the

1201
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: Bears of ruined fields. He seems to be getting worse

1202
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: when most players on the Bears feel like they are aggressing.

1203
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: Coaching is awful, the team lying about Alan Williams situation

1204
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: just a complete shit show. I've said it before, but

1205
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: if there's not a complete sweep of Hallas Hall, then

1206
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: nothing is changing. Hope see Jay can continue to be awesome.

1207
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm jumping on the Texas for the rest of the year.

1208
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: I see this is where you're allowed to kind of

1209
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: root for someone else, your high state guy. I told her,

1210
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: no one, no Bears fan. Coach k I don't you

1211
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: look you know, maybe you're my age, maybe you're in

1212
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: your thirties. As long as you're not like ten, if

1213
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: you're over twenty five, you're allowed to just like, I'm

1214
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: not paying attention this year. They have not earned my right.

1215
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: The most valuable thing any of us have is time

1216
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: and the time that we give emotionally to the team,

1217
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: the time that we give them on Sunday. They don't

1218
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: deserve your time. They just do not because it's just

1219
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna push you off. Like you said, it's not just

1220
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: getting worse, it's it's unwatchable. It's you got guys. You

1221
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 1: know resigning. Listen, people are like middle cough. You said

1222
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: some stuff last week. It was unsubstantiated. You don't even know,

1223
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: McAfee said the next day, clearly the Feds didn't come

1224
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: to house Hall though I always struggle you think the

1225
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: Bears would ever admit to anything, but back off, he reported.

1226
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: And I know he's not a reporter, but he knows

1227
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: some people that the Feds went to his house. Now

1228
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: they claim it's inappropriate. It's not criminal. Regardless, something weird happened,

1229
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: Like we're not born tonight. You know, some of us

1230
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: are born to night. We're not born last night. This

1231
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: isn't that complicated to see some shady went down. No

1232
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: one's calling the guy. You know some of the stuff

1233
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it looked kind of crazy, and internet

1234
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: rumors took off. But let's not act like, oh, I

1235
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: just couldn't get the job done. His schemes weren't working.

1236
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 1: I hear you. I don't really know what to say.

1237
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: Coach has lost thirteen straight games. Thirteen straight games, that's

1238
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: ebraflus might just stick like he just might be really

1239
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: really bad. And like the way I'm not comparing in

1240
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: the Tomlin but in the same vein of defensive guy

1241
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: has no impact on offensive players. So what can he

1242
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: do to justin fields beside like keep your head up?

1243
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: Run a bro, Like, what did he really say? He

1244
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: can't break down their offensive scheme. He can't break down

1245
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: if he's having a mechanical issue. He can give you know,

1246
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: raw Ross speeches, but how do you give raw Ross

1247
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: beaches when you've lost thirteen straight games and you're getting

1248
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: mollywop like you said, you're playing the Chiefs on the road.

1249
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: What was gonna happen? Exactly what happened? But maybe could

1250
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: it be like seventeen ten and a half and it's like,

1251
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: you know what, we gave a fight instead, we just

1252
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of laid down and died. After coach resigned, slash fired,

1253
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Fields had a disastrous comments, and it just feels like

1254
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: they're a rudderless ship. And there's nothing worse in football

1255
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: than being a rudderless ship. And this is where you, like,

1256
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: I understand Patriot fans be like, god, this this kind

1257
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: of sucks watching this team. I get it, But you've

1258
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: won for twenty years. You have to your Bears fan

1259
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: like your team's always suck. You've had a couple of

1260
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: years over the last fifteen, right post Erlacker and Peppers.

1261
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: But it's just this is this is a new low,

1262
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm all for experiencing the lows to enjoy the highs, right,

1263
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: Which is true in our personal and professional lives. Adversity

1264
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: and struggle make the good times more rewarding. As a

1265
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: sports fan, it's one thing to lose. It's one thing

1266
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: to have devastating losses. Right, the Bills a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, the game they lost to the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's an all time kicking the dick. Right. The

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Speaker 1: Saints the one playoff game they've had multiple right, the

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Speaker 1: one of the rams where they didn't call the PI

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Speaker 1: the miracle at the Metal Lands or Metal Lands, is

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Speaker 1: that what it's called the Minnesota Miracle. It happens, It's

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Speaker 1: another thing to happen. What's going on with the Bears

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Speaker 1: where your quarterback is looks like a JV player and

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Speaker 1: your team just looks awful. I mean it just looks

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Speaker 1: like they have no talent. The Chiefs, by about early

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Speaker 1: on in the second quarters, like this thing, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: start clowning them Like this is not This feels like

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Speaker 1: Alabama versus Vanderbilt on a Saturday afternoon in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: like they are just going to undress them. Listen, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you get beat. It's football, it's the NFL is really hard.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing like the Raiders, right, they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: win that many games, but you know they have their

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Speaker 1: moments throughout games like the Bears just doesn't even feel

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Speaker 1: like there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing I think people probably worried about

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Speaker 1: in the back of their mind, like what if Caleb

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Speaker 1: and his dad refuse to come play for us, because

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Speaker 1: that would that would officially be the lowest moment in

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Speaker 1: Bear's history. If Calebin is dad, you guys have the

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Speaker 1: number one pick and he just said, don't draft us,

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Speaker 1: we will not come. They say, you build it, they

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Speaker 1: will come. They say the opposite, you pick us, We

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Speaker 1: ain't showing now. I personally called bluff, But that several

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Speaker 1: month span of February March April leading up to the draft,

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Speaker 1: everyone would be making fun of you, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 1: Like usually when you get made fun of in football,

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Speaker 1: you've earned it. I saw with the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: and Jim tom Suwa, they earned that I've seen it

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders at all different times. Happens a lot

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Speaker 1: to them. They usually earn that it's an other thing,

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Speaker 1: like guy drops the ball, guy does a dumb play.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with humans, it happens. It's another thing like

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry last week with the Bears, like that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a complete embarrassment, Like that's unacceptable for a high

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Speaker 1: level operation. Unacceptable, it really is. And I mentioned this

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Speaker 1: to Colin. I've known people that work there. For being

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Speaker 1: this massive franchise in one of America's biggest cities, they

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Speaker 1: are much more closely associated with the way their mindset

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Speaker 1: is is a franchise to like your mom and pop

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Speaker 1: deli than they are to the way thet I've seen

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Speaker 1: the way the Eagles look and operate. They operate like

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Speaker 1: they're a Fortune five hundred company. They do not fuck

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Speaker 1: around with finances with big thinking. It's not true with

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Speaker 1: the Bears. So when they're in this situation, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of starts with the ownership. It's always funny when coaches win.

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Speaker 1: It's easy if you win to like Hug Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: or an owner that has had success or made a

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Speaker 1: lot of money It's always when a team hasn't won

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Speaker 1: forever and you like give the game ball or high five,

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Speaker 1: like Michael Bidwell or McCaskey. You know. I was like, what,

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Speaker 1: do you really respect this person? No, you just know

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Speaker 1: they're the kid of the kid of the person that

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Speaker 1: bought the team back in nineteen forty seven. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's the actual date. But don't get mad

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Speaker 1: at the Bears. Man, appreciate it. Talk to everyone later.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of mail back questions coming up,

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Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts coming up. Keep Rocking and Rolling,

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Speaker 1: Baby the volume