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Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha, welcome to stuff I

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Speaker 1: ever told you a prediction of iHeartRadio, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you choose

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Speaker 1: to drink or whatever you choose to do, do so responsibly. Also,

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Speaker 1: anything that we mentioned here, if we don't specifically say

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Speaker 1: it is a sponsor, it is not a sponsor at

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Speaker 1: this moment. That could change, but it's not why we're

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Speaker 1: talking about anything. We're talking about Samantha. Yes, are you

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Speaker 1: said you got anything?

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Speaker 2: I am. I found after finding a very very good

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Speaker 2: deal for sodas, which you know have been ridiculously expensive,

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Speaker 2: to the point that I like had to ask a

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Speaker 2: soda salesperson he was like stocking up. Was like, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: does this mean this? And he's like yes, it got

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Speaker 2: really excited. He's like, and it means all of them,

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Speaker 2: Like he showed it all to all the ones I

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Speaker 2: could get, Like wow. So with that, I bought myself

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Speaker 2: a pineapple soda, which I've been thoroughly enjoying that I

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Speaker 2: only drink once every few days because I don't typically

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Speaker 2: drink lace straight soda. I know it was one of

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Speaker 2: those people, because you know, I am a millennial that

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Speaker 2: learned from the boomer to love die cokes. But I

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Speaker 2: guess a geriatric millennial, elder millennials millennial anyway. So I'm

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Speaker 2: drinking a pine appisoda and it's quite delicious. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: very satisfying.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I like your koozy anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know what about you.

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Speaker 1: I made a G and T a gen atonic. I

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Speaker 1: haven't had one in a very long time. I still

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Speaker 1: have only Samantha and Cea my galaxy gin. So that

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Speaker 1: tells you how, because that's a Star Wars based gin

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Speaker 1: that I make anywhere. Today, I'm going to just issue

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Speaker 1: a massive spoiler warning because I'm doing another horror movie update.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while to speak to these, but there

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Speaker 1: has been a glut of horror movies lately. Samantha, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, and so I'm, you know, living the best time.

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Speaker 1: But I am going to spoil. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: go to a depth because these are not feminist movie Fridays,

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Speaker 1: even though I feel like I could do an episode

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Speaker 1: on each of these, but they will. There will be

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Speaker 1: spoilers for Late Night with the Devil You'll Never Find

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Speaker 1: Me and The Royal Hotel, which Interestingly, all three of

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Speaker 1: them are related to Australia. Came out of Australia. What's

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Speaker 1: going on Australia? Like, write in and tell.

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Speaker 2: Me in their horror face they're in.

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Speaker 1: They're like something they're they're examining. So I love it,

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Speaker 1: I love it, I love you know. Okay, So yes,

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Speaker 1: all of these are very well reviewed and I been

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Speaker 1: talking about them forever. My friend's probably really annoyed because

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Speaker 1: I kept being like, on this stage, we have to

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Speaker 1: about again? So, as this is a feminist show, I

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Speaker 1: do of course have feminist thoughts about all of these.

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Speaker 1: Let us start with Late Night with the Devil. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of a seventies weird deal with the Devil thing.

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Speaker 1: is for a different podcast. I would say it's kind

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Speaker 1: And that brings us to The Last One Royal Hotel,

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