WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Life Changes 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.519 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:12.959 the Bengals Booth podcast, the Life Changes edition, as we 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.800 look at some big changes on the Bengals offensive line 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.360 with the start of training camp looming in a little 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.440 more than a week. Coming up, I'll go one on 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.639 one with Clint Bowling, who announced his retirement on Monday 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.960 after being one of the bengals most reliable players for 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.880 the past eight seasons. That news comes a few weeks 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.559 after we learned the first round draft pick Jonah Williams 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.720 will miss the season with a shoulder injury. I'll talk 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.720 to Dave Lapham about the impact of those losses and 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.280 what the Bengals are likely to do on the left 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.560 side of their offensive line. Those conversations are straight ahead, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.879 but first, here's a quick reminder that you can have 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.720 the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:59.160 or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:04.800 or pod Bean. It's the greatest invention since the National 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:09.360 Comedy Center. I grew up near Jamestown, New York, best 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.240 known for being the hometown of Lucio Ball, and on 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.080 a recent visit to see my folks. I checked out 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:19.039 the National Comedy Center. It opened last year and it's 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.280 a high tech, state of the art, interactive museum celebrating 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.560 the history of comedy. So if you happen to be 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.559 near Jamestown in the southwest tip of New York State, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.039 be sure to check it out. You won't be disappointed. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.160 Now let's get to football. We're sad to see him 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.600 go because he was a great player and we value 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.520 those experienced veteran players, and he's on a wolf for 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.400 a long time. But I know that they're they're a 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.759 piece of the decision and so happy for them. I'm 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.720 happy for their family, and he'll get a chance to 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:50.720 move on with the rest of his life. That was 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.080 Bengal's head coach Zach Taylor, reacting to Monday's announcement that 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.680 offensive lineman Clint Bowling is retiring for medical reasons. A 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.120 few days after last see It ended, Bowling felt pain 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.720 in his right leg. It turned out to be a 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.360 blood clot, and shortly after that Clint learned that the 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.200 blood clot had traveled to his lungs. That explains why 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.079 he did not take part in the Bengal summer workouts 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.440 and after talking to doctors and thinking about his wife 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.120 and two daughters, who are both under the age of two, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.240 Bowling decided to call it quits. I spoke to him 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.079 about that decision and his fine NFL career. Clint. She 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.919 told us she'd been playing football since sixth grade. So 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.960 this will be the first time in your adult life 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.200 you've not been part of a football team in the fall. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:37.960 Is it kind of hard to believe that's going to 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.640 be the case? Yeah, I mean it's a pretty surreal feeling, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.960 you know, really trying to wrap my head around you know, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.880 what am I going to do? But at the same time, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.040 you know, it's exciting to move on to the next venture. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.440 You know, football was a big part of my life, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.440 but it's not you know who I am, and to 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.480 be able to figure out, you know, what I'm going 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.320 to move on to next in life is exciting. It's 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.400 such a sport of routine. You have to be in 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.160 certain places at certain times. Your schedule is dictated for you, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.640 especially once training camp begins. Now I suppose other than uh, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.080 you know, appointments with your daughters and so forth, you 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.800 can determine what you want to do in a daily 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.720 basis yeah, you know, just uh, you know, hopefully still 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.720 be a little regimented, just from getting up with the kids, 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.160 dropping them off and taking care of them, doing whatever 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.720 I need to do with them, and then, um, I 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.840 guess just kind of catching some tea times after that. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.720 I got to be on time for those. So that's 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.360 the that's the plan right now and just you know, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.440 kind of take this fall in and you know, hopefully 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.440 get to travel some with my family and you know, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.840 just just relax for a little while. Will you be 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.760 one of these guys that drops a bunch of weight 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.200 after your playing career? I hope. So, uh, you know, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.240 I'd like to start working on it and we'll see 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.480 what what what I get down to or if I 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.080 get down to anything, but I hope. So I'd like 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.880 to you know, I've always enjoyed lifting and working out, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.480 like to continue doing that, um, and definitely will continue 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.560 to do that just because you know, kind of keep 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.120 myself motivated is to you know, stay in the gym, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.000 stay working out, and at the same time you kind 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.280 of get that, you know, in the in the gym, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.880 you still got that locker room atmosphere with some trainers 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.080 and that kind of thing. Guys that I've been working 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.040 out with and training since I was in high school. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.279 We're visiting with Clint Bowling. In the Bengals news release 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.839 that announced a retirement, Mike Brown had a quote in 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.080 there that said he never got the credit he deserved. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.200 Did you see that? And do you agree? Uh? You know, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.200 just just part of being an offensive linement is sometimes 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.000 you just have to accept that. And like I talked 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.640 about earlier, just about you know, coming in and working 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.159 every single day. If you know, you can definitely be 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.200 upset about certain things, but at the end of the day, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.760 it's just about doing your job and making the guys 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.520 around you better, and that's what offensive linement's all about. Sometimes. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:57.000 Twenty eleven draft class worked out pretty well Green Dalton Bowling. Yeah, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.000 it was a you know, it was a good group 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.960 of guys. You know, any time you can have you know, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.880 three starters on the offensive are on the offense like that, 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.360 it's a I gotta think, you gotta think it was 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.280 a good draft and for us to come in and 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.640 as a team we were able to go to five 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.760 playoff games in a row. Um obviously would have liked 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.839 to have gone a different way, but uh, you know, ultimately, 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.200 it was fun coming on with those guys and um, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.080 you know, experience in this city and team together. Have 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.000 you heard from your former teammate Andrew Whitworth and his 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.560 hee busting your balls that he's still playing and you 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.919 are retiring? Um, you know, I actually told Andrew a 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.560 few days ago a lot you know, kind of tried 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.200 to talk to a couple of friends, and you know, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:40.520 he was one of the guys that I had talked 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:45.320 to before everything. But um, you know, they wouldn't surprise 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.839 me if he somehow played another two or three years. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.600 But um, you know, what he's been doing in LA 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.760 has just been incredible. The way that he's been able 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.000 to continue his career and play as long as he has. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.600 It's just, um, you know, it's unbelievable to watch. You 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.400 had to practice against Geno Atkins in college and in 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.839 the pros, so we know what a headache that must 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.919 have been. But how about opposing players who did you 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.200 consider to be the best guys you ever faced? Ah, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.839 you know, there's a lot of different guys that that 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.039 come to mind. You know, there's guys in our division 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.880 like Cameron Hayward, who's you know, just a really physical 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.440 player that doesn't take plays off. I mean every single 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.960 play he's given it as all. You know, there's some 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.120 guys in Baltimore, some sugs and some of those nose 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.840 guards that are really you know, hard to move. Um. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.560 You know, obviously other guys that you know, some premier 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.320 guys like JJ Watter are obviously all really good players. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.320 So I mean, when you go into the NFL game 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.039 and you know every single week you're going to be 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.960 in for a challenge, what guys talk the most that 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.040 you faced? Honestly, I never really talked much. I just 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.239 went about there every now and then you come across. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.920 But there's never anybody that stands stands out to me, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.560 just because I tried to. I tried to keep to myself. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.800 I never My theory was I just never wanted to 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.880 make anybody more mad than they were. So, well, now 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.000 you don't have to face the Steelers anymore, how do 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.360 you feel about them? You know what I mean? That 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.359 was always a fun place to play, but you know, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.480 just to finish my career here, I mean that it's 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.880 you know, it's gonna always be fun. Sharing for the 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.240 Bengals and anytime they're playing Pittsburgh. It's it's always going 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.880 to be a physical game, and you know some you 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:21.440 know game that I'm always gonna be pulling for the 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.760 Bengals for it was there a welcome to the NFL moment, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.880 your rookie year. Um, you know, just just the interactions 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.400 and meeting the guys. Like I said, there's so many 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.920 different personalities in the locker room and meeting so many 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.680 different people. It was it was just a unique experience. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.080 I don't know if there was a particular moment, but 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:44.040 maybe when I was walking through the parking lot and 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.000 I saw all the different cars, that was probably the 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.160 first thing that stood out. Is there a game or 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.400 are there a couple of games that stand out as 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.480 your favorites? Um, you know, one that we won I 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.520 would definitely say would be the end of the season 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:05.360 twenty seventeen playing at Baltimore, you know, having to switch positions, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.560 play out at tackle, and you know, winning on the 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.600 last play of the game like that on fourth down 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.080 was just you know, an awesome way to end the season. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.160 And then, um, you know, obviously there were some disappointing 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.360 playoff games, but those playoff atmospheres, I mean, it was 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.480 just you can tell it's cranked up another notch. I mean, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.960 you play football for sixteen weeks and then you go 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.200 play a playoff game and it's just a different atmosphere. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.640 The crowd's a different atmosphere, the intensity levels different and 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.560 it was just always fun kind of experience experience at 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.640 football at just the highest level. Even when I asked 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.439 you about wins, you mentioned losses. Did the losses hurt 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.800 more than you know you savored the wins? I would 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.480 say so, just because those those are the games that truly, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.480 you know that you stand out like, oh man, if 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.800 I just did this differently, if we did this differently 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.720 as a team, then this would have happened. And you know, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.160 you kind of relish in those moments a little bit 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.920 more than some of the some of the wins. And 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.320 that's just you know, some of those losses just stick 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.360 in your mind a little bit, a little bit more 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.400 than the winds do sometimes. If Andy didn't break his 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.720 thumb in two thy fifteen, is that the season that 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.920 you think might have ended in a very special way? Yeah, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.960 you know, we were we were a great football team 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.760 that year. We played a lot of good ball and um, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.760 you know, there's a. There's a ton of what ifs 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.400 throughout my career, throughout the teams that I've been on. Um, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.680 so it's always you know, kind of tough to to 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.480 feel like, you know, if we just did this differently. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.600 But at the end of the day, it's um, you know, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.720 had up played on a lot of good teams. What 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.400 do you love or what did you love about this sport? 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.040 Like I you know I said earlier, I think just 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.679 the the camaraderie, the fifty three guys in this locker room, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.080 the all the unique and different personalities and um, you know, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.120 coming together as a football team and seeing where you know, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.080 how guys got here, where they're from, and their life story. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.320 It's just you know, there's so many unique stories and 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.480 just to hear them all. Um, it was always fun 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.400 to uh you know, pre practice, post practice guys joking 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.680 around was always it was always fun. Do you feel 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.400 good when you wake up after eight years in the NFL? 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.000 Or are there still some aches and pains depending on 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.920 if it's going to rain or whatever. Uh, you know, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.320 it just it just depends. For the most part. You know, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.040 I feel well right now, and um just excited to 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.000 move on and figure out the next step sounds like 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.320 the blood clot issue that popped up at the end 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.040 of the season, at least briefly, was kind of a 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.680 scary situation. Yeah. Absolutely, you know, just um, you know, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.520 anytime you have to go to a hospital, you know, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.480 you never know exactly what's going on, and just trying 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.640 to figure out what exactly and was happening and wrapped 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.480 my head around it was. It was tough. Um, But 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.439 like I said, um, you know, sometimes there's things that 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.760 are bigger than football, and um, you know, you just 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.680 have to make that decision sometimes. Paul Brown used to 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.280 famously tell people or tell players at the end of 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.000 their career, it's time to find your life's work. Yeah, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.480 how much thought have you given to your next venture coaching, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.360 broadcasting business? What are you thinking? You know, we'll we'll 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.240 just really try to figure that out this fall. Fortunately, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.760 I'll be in a position to where I don't have 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.840 to jump into anything I don't want to right now, 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.240 So just to kind of take some time and start 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.400 networking and meeting people and and really figuring out exactly 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.520 what's next is you know, something that will start right now. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.840 I think you've done well financially, so you probably don't 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.480 have to work again the rest of your life. But 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.839 I don't picture you as sitting on the couch a 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.880 couple of years from now. No, I think, um, you know, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.559 for guys to stay active, like we talked about football, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.240 at the end of football is just the beginning of 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.120 your life. Football is a big part of my life. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.720 But you know, to to move on and stay busy 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.520 and stay active. You know it's gonna be uh, it's 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.640 gonna be exciting to see what that next step is. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.160 But you know, you absolutely I feel I have to 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.319 stay busy as a person and challenge yourself. Sometimes training 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.920 camp begins in less than two weeks. I'm assuming you're 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.840 not going to miss that too much. It's you know, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.200 it's been unique. It's a unique feeling knowing that you're 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.040 not gonna have to put the pads on again and 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.920 you know, fight your way through another football practice when 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.240 you're about eight or nine days in. You know, it's 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.840 a it's something that one of the things I won't miss. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.840 You had a great career. I've always considered you be 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.160 you to be one of the real unsung heroes on 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.600 this team. In the locker room, on the offensive line, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.560 just a total solid as a rock pro. Congratulations on 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.040 eight great years. Thanks for all the time you've given us, 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.680 and best of luck with Kelly and the girls. Awesome. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.840 Thank you guys very much for the past few years. Thanks. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.839 Bowling started all sixteen games in four out of the 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:44.040 last five seasons, but he wasn't only reliable. According to 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.280 Pro Football Focus, he was the bengals highest rated offensive 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.560 lineman among their starters last year. The news of Bowling's 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.280 retirement comes roughly three weeks after we learned that rookie 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.360 Jonah Williams, the eleventh pick in this year's draft and 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.680 the team's likely starter at left tackle, will miss the 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.440 entire season with an injured left shoulder. I discussed those 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.400 developments with my broadcast partner, Dave lappam lapped. The roughly 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.640 a month between the end of the mandatory mini camp 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.800 in the start of training camp is supposed to be quiet, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.559 but that was hardly the case for the Bengals this year, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.880 as they lost a couple of offensive lineman. Let's start 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.000 with number one draft pick Jonah Williams, who will miss 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.920 the entire season with a torn labram in his left shoulder. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.280 Let's start with the injury itself, what will that mean 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:33.800 to him going forward? My understanding is that the severity 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:38.000 of the tear can be repaired readily and that it 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:43.000 shouldn't be a hindrance. And as with all surgeries, everybody 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.840 reacts differently, and then it's amount and then it amounts 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.000 to how committed are you to rehab? Knowing him a 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.720 little bit, I think he'll be a maniacle maniacal. I 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.200 should say rehab, guys. I think I think that's what 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.360 he'll He'll they'll probably have to say all right, Orange, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.160 they'll hold him back a little bit. I think he'll 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.600 try to do maybe too much too soon. If anything, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.600 it won't be if the rehab is not is not great, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.960 it won't be for lack of effort. So I think 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.800 he's going to be fine. And you know, it is 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.120 that it is that left shoulder, which is his outside 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.839 shoulder at left tackle, where you know a lot of 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.720 the heavy traffic takes place, so you have to make 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.800 sure that that it's back and it's it's at full 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.520 where you're you're out there or trying to do something. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.920 So I think they made the decision wisely, you know, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.360 just let's just let this year, um, you know, take 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.920 place in terms of him getting ready for the second 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.760 year of his NFL career, and I think he's going 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.880 to be a long one. I think he's going to 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.080 have a long NFL career. I think a lot of 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.040 people want to know, how does that happen in a 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.280 mini camp with limited hitting. Yeah, sometimes you can just 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.280 get caught. You know, you're still you're still doing you know, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.000 et en penetrate, tackle twist, tackle penetrate, end twist, those 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.480 stunts and those kind of things, and sometimes you can 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.760 just get caught, you know, get your arm hot awkwardly, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.400 you know, amongst a massive bodies and just be you know, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.360 put in a position where your arm and your shoulder 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.400 doesn't isn't going the way that it normally should go, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.360 you know, and and uh so that that you know, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.560 that can happen. That can happen, um, you know, at 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.480 any time in the game of football. So unfortunately, and 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.040 you know, of course, there was a lot of concern 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.120 because Saban is known as the guy that beats beats 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.600 his players up and was this an injury that he 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.800 had at Alabama? It was a lingering injury and in 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.680 today's high tech medical world. They can blood. They can 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.080 determine from blood samples around the injured area, and by 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.880 looking at the imaging, they're so specific they can tell 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.400 if it's old injury or new injury. And this was 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.520 a new injury that was sustained, you know, probably during 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.880 those mini camps. Lap. It's the fifth consecutive year that 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.680 the Bengals number one draft pick will have an injury 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.680 plagued rookie season. Belly Price, John Ross, William Jackson, Cedric 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:00.240 Obwaihi were the previous four. It's pretty ridiculous. I mean, 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.640 it's bad luck it is. You know, when they drafted 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.360 cedrical Way, he you know he had he had played 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.720 in that Bowl game with the blown out nie and 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.960 played the whole second half with that torn ligament in 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.960 his knee and u and had surgery to repairt. I mean, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.760 those muscles, his quads and hamstrings were so strong that 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.200 you know he could he could play and uh and 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.440 finish the game. So yeah, it's crazy. But a lot 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.280 of those were shoulder and chest problems. So I guess 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.480 maybe the next time you draft the first round, or 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.600 make sure there'n't have many shoulders or chest don't have 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.080 to worry about injuries to those body parts. I mean, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:38.440 it is crazy the odds of that happening as often 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.680 as it's happened in consecutive years. So the Bengals are staggering, staggering, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.880 It's ridiculous. The last Bengals first round draft pick to 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.800 play all sixteen games was Kevin Zeitler, but he was 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.880 not their first overall pick that year. Drake Kirkpatrick was 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.280 and he only played five games that year. The last 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.920 time the Bengals number one overall pick played all sixteen 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:04.199 games was two thousand and seven Leon Hall. There have 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.160 been guys that have played fifteen, including Tyler Eiffort, but 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.480 the last guy to play all sixteen who is their 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.960 first pick in the draft was Leon Hall. That's incredible. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.879 You know when you when you h I mean, obviously 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.919 they're draft in the first round for a reason. And um, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:24.160 you know, if you if you miss on first round 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.600 picks due to lack of ability or injury, it can 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.639 set you back a long period of time. And fortunately 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.240 these were you know, in a lot of cases injuries 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.480 for that rookie year, but then they came back and played. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.199 Although you know, guys like Tyler and John Ross have 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.240 had injury played career so far, so you just never know. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.800 There's no guarantees. It is. It is what it is. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.280 In terms of full contact sport, you have one hundred 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.360 percent injury risk every single snap, and I guess these 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.480 are good examples of it. Now. The more recent offseason news, 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.600 Clint Bowling's decision to retire after thing with a blood 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.560 clot in the off season not a shocker. When we 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.959 saw him standing off to the side during the various 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.040 and mini camps and training camp or pre training camp 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.399 offseason program, it was clear that something was going on 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.040 and that this was at least a possibility. Yeah. I 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.600 mean when you're talking to medical scenario like a blood 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.600 clot in the leg that was traveling to the lung, 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.919 you know, and now you're talking about you know, hospital trips, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:27.080 which he had, and now you're talking about a guy's 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.200 health that is much more than just a game of football, 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.680 particularly with a wife in a twenty month and a 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:37.560 five month old daughters. So it was not I guarantee 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.560 you it was not easy for Clint Bowling to make 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.720 the decision he made, and the fact that he was 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.720 up here for those mini camps just to go through 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.560 the mental part of getting ready for the game of football. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.119 He had not made a total decision yet, but he 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.040 was leaning toward probably the decision that he made here 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.639 today for probably probably a couple of months. I bet 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.520 he'd been thinking about it, talking about it. You make 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.320 a trip to the hospital. It's it's gonna make you 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.239 thinking about you know what am I gonna do when 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.960 football is over? Because it looks like it's going to 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.680 be over here. How big of a blow is it? 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:17.399 It's it's it's significant because in today's NFL, versatility in 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.600 the offensive line is a big deal because last year, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.800 thinking how many times the Bengals only activated seven offensive 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.000 lineman because they had a Clint Bowling that could play 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.879 multiple spots. That's why to me, Trey Hopkins has a 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:34.000 chance to still make this football team because, like Clint, 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.800 he's very intelligent and he's very versatile, and coaches like 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.400 intelligence and versatility in their football players. So I think 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.520 he might be the guy. And he may not necessarily 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.240 be a starting lineman, but he's a guy that could 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.639 be the seventh one of the seven guys active that 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.880 can you can plug in anywhere and finish a game 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:55.720 with and not be embarrassed about it. He can go 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.520 and execute and finish games or play you know, two 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.639 or three straight games depending on jury or whatever the 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.840 case may be. So you're you're looking for, you know, 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:08.800 somebody to to plug in to that you know, the intelligence, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.760 the versatility. But he had the experience now too, so 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.680 he's he's uh, you know, this term pros pro is 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.040