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Speaker 1: Gambler the Volume. Welcome, Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I got my guy Mitch Eisenstein in our special guest Colin.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing it? I'm doing great. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being part of the volume, Love Avenue, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me. It's a blast every week. Well,

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Speaker 1: rich it's another Sunday, another I guess Mayhem ensued. This

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Speaker 1: whole weekend has been Mayhem. It started with Saturday while

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Speaker 1: come back. But let's start in Dallas or I guess

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville rather the Dallas Cowboys huge letdown game. I'll

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Speaker 1: let you guys take it away. Well, his duval Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: all I heard all week was I was wronging for

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Speaker 1: taking the Cowboys out of my power rankings. Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: like Dallas Cowboy We're the real deal this year. We're

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Speaker 1: really We're really a great team this year. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to show you that we're a different Dallas Cowboys team.

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Speaker 1: And then you know what they do, Mitchell, They show

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Speaker 1: you that the same old Dallas Cowboys over time and

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Speaker 1: lost pick sick. Now they're calling for Dak Prescott's job.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, we need to get rid of Dak.

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Speaker 1: Let me let you know Dallas Cowboys fans that ain't

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Speaker 1: going nowhere, so get used to him. Keep buying jerseys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean when you watch Mahomes complete nine team throws

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Speaker 1: I like Dack. I don't think you can blame the

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Speaker 1: But there's now you know this, you picked on some

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Speaker 1: short week, and we got it. But whatever, that's the story.

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Speaker 1: I think Waddle played well. Obviously he has a long

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Speaker 1: reception where you got to see his speed. But that's

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Speaker 1: three straight losses from Miami. I mean, their their tails spinning.

426
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Speaker 1: But I still don't see many teams I want to

427
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Speaker 1: want to see them in the first round of those playoffs,

428
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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some unfortunate team. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: may be this matchup. Buffalo has been a the a

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Speaker 1: one seed or a two seed, you know that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: between them in Kansas City, one of them will have

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Speaker 1: to deal with the Miami Dolphins. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: either one of them want that. I certainly wouldn't want it.

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Speaker 1: But the Josh Allen, He's tied Dan Marino hundred and

435
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Speaker 1: seventy one touchdowns most ever through first five seasons. I mean,

436
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Speaker 1: this is a guy it's his time, Rich, I mean,

437
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Speaker 1: in my eyes, at least, this guy deserves a shot

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, you know. But it's gonna be

439
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Speaker 1: a tight competition. Nonetheless, you know, so another team that's

440
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Speaker 1: coming on super out of late, the Cincinnati Bengals playing

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Speaker 1: against We have to touch on it every week. We're

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Speaker 1: forced to. The volume requires us to touch on the

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Speaker 1: NFC South even though we don't want to. But here's

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Speaker 1: our our weekly touch on the NFC South. Well, has

445
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Speaker 1: anything gotten any better? You're talking Tampa Bay, Rich, I

446
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: mean you thought so. In the first half, when they

447
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Speaker 1: were up seventeen and three, you thought, okay, you know,

448
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Speaker 1: let's go. You know, they're on their way to score

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Speaker 1: thirty points. Um, Tom looks good, the receivers look good,

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Speaker 1: defensive playing well, health health. The Cincinnati Bengals, who have

451
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Speaker 1: been very hot of late, to three points are like, okay,

452
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Speaker 1: and then they turned back into themselves this season. You know,

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Speaker 1: Tom played a decent game, but he threw two interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Chris Guy when looking like his old self, cardon Carlton

455
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Speaker 1: Davis had an interception, Like those are things you expect.

456
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Speaker 1: But like Joe Burrow is a tough out for anybody,

457
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Speaker 1: and he got hot in the second half, four touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: he only threw one the one interception a Carlton Davis um.

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Speaker 1: But the Bucks five straight possessions. Way to turn over

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Speaker 1: to start a second half, like that doesn't sound like

461
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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady team. To fumbles two interceptions, like you

462
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Speaker 1: turn it over and down, you can't, Like, that's not

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Speaker 1: championship football. And you don't even know where to put

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Speaker 1: the finger. You don't know where to point the finger.

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Speaker 1: You don't know where to put the blame because it's

466
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Speaker 1: not like they're not playing hard. They're not healthy really

467
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But you just can't really pinpoint,

468
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Speaker 1: like what's going wrong. That's just it rich. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know they're they're battling injuries, but I mean we're

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Speaker 1: late in the season. A lot of teams are battling injuries.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this is par for the course

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but they're in a must win situation

473
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Speaker 1: week after week after week. You know they keep getting

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Speaker 1: bailed out because they're playing in this lousy division, but

475
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Speaker 1: it's I mean, dude, they got the Saints now nipping

476
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Speaker 1: at their heels, they got the Carolina Panthers nipping at

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Speaker 1: their heels. I mean, where do you cast the blame?

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Speaker 1: If there is one point to point at, where where

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Speaker 1: are you pointing? I don't know, man, I mean, nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to win the conference, so there's no such things

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Speaker 1: in us winning NFC South. Right, if you lose, you

482
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: still got a chance. Yeah, you must, you must not quit.

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Speaker 1: If you don't forfeit and give up, you know you

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Speaker 1: got a chance to win the game. But I don't know, man.

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Speaker 1: The NFC South is just it's unfortunate because whoever they

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Speaker 1: play in the first round, they're gonna go home. It

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Speaker 1: seems like now gets spicy. If they somehow can get

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Speaker 1: upset in the first round of the playoffs, then we're

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Speaker 1: talking about like, okay, cool, but that's no or not.

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Speaker 1: We don't expect that. But flipping back to the f

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Speaker 1: C Rich, I think one of the more laugh out

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Speaker 1: loud moments was the last game that ended in the

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Speaker 1: late uh four o'clock hour. If you will, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: another team in a massive state to needle win. They

495
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Speaker 1: go down the stretch. Romandre Stevenson's running the ball down

496
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Speaker 1: the field, no time left on the clock, tied up,

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Speaker 1: he decides to pitch it the Jacoby Myers, who just

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Speaker 1: heaves the ball backwards to I'm guessing Mac Jones scooped

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Speaker 1: up by Chandler Jones cost caught by Chandler Jones runs

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Speaker 1: the other way for the game winning touchdown. How why

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Speaker 1: I've got you know, I love to hear I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear how Belichick show drew that one up. How

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Speaker 1: I want to hear how he explained that to his team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna give it to Ramandre's gonna run.

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Speaker 1: Then you you passed to Jacoby, you pass it back

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Speaker 1: to Mac. And because even if Matt called it, where

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Speaker 1: were you going from there? Mac is the most immobile

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Speaker 1: person on the field. I mean, they're offensive linement on

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Speaker 1: that field with more mobility. So what exactly was the

510
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Speaker 1: plan after Mac Jones got it? You know, you know

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Speaker 1: what happened, what should have happened, Like you're throwing him

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Speaker 1: back to a quarterback? You you know what these d

513
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Speaker 1: linemen do their entire day, their entire night, their entire everything.

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Speaker 1: They think about getting to the quarterback and getting physical

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Speaker 1: with him. Until on the play where everybody's running around,

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Speaker 1: everybody's chaotic, their mindset has not changed. You know where

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Speaker 1: you can find Chandler Jones next to the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: that's where he was you threw the ball up. That's

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Speaker 1: what people never think about on those plays. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's do the lateral play. But how many times has

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Speaker 1: the defense got the ball and score touchdowns at the

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Speaker 1: end of games where you're like, oh, that wasn't really

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Speaker 1: that serious, Oh that wasn't Yes, that could happen, So

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you just take the time going ot Like

525
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: did you not think you can beat him? An ot again,

526
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: everybody get on the belotship train and they're like, man, unfathomable, unfathomable.

527
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: He can he can do no wrong. And it's like,

528
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: who gets the blame? Right there? That's a great question

529
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Speaker 1: because that, to me, those guys won't completely off script.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine a state of this world where Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is calling a lateral you know, down the stretch.

532
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Speaker 1: But can you can you can you think of a

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Speaker 1: world where the Patriots players are just doing whatever they

534
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Speaker 1: want in freestyling on the Bill Belichick coach teams. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it now, Nada and that

536
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Speaker 1: This is what we were talking about earlier in the season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you don't have that lead orship with

538
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, things things start to change a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So the Pats might be on their way, uh to

540
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Speaker 1: an early exit here if they're playing games like that.

541
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Speaker 1: But yeah, we we we the Jets needed that loss

542
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: for them to get that lost, Mitch last after uh,

543
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Mike White's ribs needed that loss. So you know, we

544
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: just need a couple more weeks. Mike White. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's find us another doctor and get cleared up. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back. Rich you don't have to worry about that.

547
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Speaker 1: But I want to tell whether we cannot end a

548
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Speaker 1: week's podcast without talking about your Seattle Seahawks. You know,

549
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Speaker 1: I want to talk specifically about the Thursday night football

550
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: game because we didn't have an opportunity to afterwards. But

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Speaker 1: you know, we are already touched on the forty niners.

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00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: They look like a complete juggernaut getting healthy down the

553
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Speaker 1: stretch at the right time. Doing this with somebody like

554
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Speaker 1: Brock Purty, Mr Irrelevant coming in and doing his thing.

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Speaker 1: But the Seattle Seahawks are now seven and seven rich.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've won one game in their last five.

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00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: They've got a tough schedule down the stretch, um, but

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Speaker 1: they have a window. Uh, washing have a window. But

559
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: it's real tight, metro. It's really tight. It's like it's

560
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: like four people closing in on one person. And they

561
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Speaker 1: have to play the Kansas City Chiefs, and like I said,

562
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City chief looks very mortal this week. So

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00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, there'll be things to find on that tape

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Speaker 1: for it to help the Seattle Seahawks potentially come out

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Speaker 1: of there with a win. But if they can get

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Speaker 1: out of that game, they play the j e t

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Speaker 1: S just just ch and and and if Zack Wilson's playing,

568
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: they will have a chance. You know. But that Jets

569
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Speaker 1: defense is really stellar. They got the Rams to end

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Speaker 1: the season, and by then the Rams will be you know,

571
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Speaker 1: already booked to Cobbo and probably on the first thing

572
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Speaker 1: smoking um that Monday night. So I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: engaged they will be in that game. But it's still

574
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Speaker 1: a divisional game. And Tyler Locketts hurt. You know, Tyler

575
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Speaker 1: Lockett is getting surgery on his hand um this week,

576
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: so that's a big loss for them. I mean, he

577
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: had six straight games where he scored his touchdown and

578
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: there's really the heart and soul of that offense. You

579
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Speaker 1: know when when you talk about DK metcalf is obviously

580
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the big play guy and the pro bowler. But when

581
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: they need a third day, we need a quick completion.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tylerlack is like the security blanket for for

583
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Speaker 1: Gino in a lot of situations. So um, we'll see

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Speaker 1: how they replace him. Obviously, Marquis is gonna get a

585
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Speaker 1: bigger role. Uh and he's been he's been thriving in

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Speaker 1: the role. And Gino still playing well do you know,

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Speaker 1: still on his way on track to get him a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year, having a career season. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they do. It's gonna be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Rich Um. This this concludes what is it week in

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Speaker 1: week fifteen? Now? Is that what it is? Mitchell god bless?

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Speaker 1: This season is flown by well Richard. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday for the next episode here, but in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: I want you to think long and hard about this

595
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions team, how far they have come? And um,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you rest easy tonight, just think if

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Speaker 1: Mike White only played, if Mike White played Mr. I

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Speaker 1: don't think about that. Well, thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'm hurt, you know, I'm I'm I'm stubborn. I still

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Speaker 1: got hope. I get my jest this week, I was

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Speaker 1: hoping to get a Mike White game. Catch me on

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Speaker 1: TNF TNF tonight start to seven pm Eastern. We're in

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Speaker 1: New York covering the Jets in the Jacksonville Jaguars who

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Speaker 1: look hot, s fish grease as well. Trevor Lawrence looks

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Speaker 1: like the guy they drafted. Uh catch us there hits

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Speaker 1: the sub button. If you knew, see you next week.

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