1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's came This budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: to do nothing the Space Force. I still think it's 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: interesting President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: and politics Colliding Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the influencers, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: the inside. I would rather see a congressional solution. It's 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks a 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: lot different than it looked in. You really have a 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: divide within Team Trump. The president has to do exactly 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: what people send him here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: get it done. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Shirley live from the Democratic presidential debate in Detroit on 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Who will get the mojo out of Motor City? 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Boomberg Television and 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, and I am live inside of the CNN 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Presidential Debate Spin Room, where rehab, every angle, the policy, 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: the politics all covered. Ahead of Night one of the 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: second Democratic presidential debate in Center Stage, Senators Elizabeth Warren 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders will make their case to Democratic primary 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: voters about who will be best as the presidential nominee. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: With us to break down all of this and all 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: star panel. Adrian el Rod, Democratic strategist, former senior aide 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: and director of strategic communications for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Adrian Watson joins us. She is the war room director 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: for the Democratic National Committee. Adam Green is back, co 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and an Elizabeth 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: Warren insider. We're also going to hear from Bloomberg News 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: national political correspondent Gregory Corty, broadcasting live from inside to 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the CNN Democratic Presidential Debate spin Room, located just adjacent 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: to the historic Fox Theater where all of the action 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: will be taking place here inside of Voter City, Detroit, Michigan. 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Standing right next to me here is a Demo cratic insider, 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: Adrian L. Rod. She is a Democratic strategist, former senior 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: aide and director of strategic communications for the Hillary Clinton 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. Adrian Tonight night one of the second Democratic 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: presidential Debate, Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. They're not 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: going to go after each other, so to speak, but 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: the contrast is likely going to be all that anybody 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: talks about. Of course, Kevin and I think it's really 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: um it's kind of funny how the two campaigns have 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: made it very clear through you know, preprinted stories and 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: preplay stories that hey, we're not gonna go after each other. 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: We're not gonna make this a you know, we're not 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna have an aggressive argument here. But they're gonna have 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: to draw contrasts because they do have such similar positions 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: on so many things. They just have different courses of 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: action in terms of achieving the goals they both share. 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: And Bernie Sanders, I think it's gonna be tonight. I 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna look to Bernie Sanders to be the 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: person who's out there basically saying, hey, guys, remember I'm 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the one who's been talking about Medicare for all. I'm 51 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: the one who's been talking about incomin quality for a 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: long time. Him, Um, Elizabeth Warren is new to this game. 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: He may not say it like this, but he's gonna 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: draw that kind of contrast. Elizabeth Warren, on the other hand, 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, she's taking votes from Bernie every single day. 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: A lot of his supporters are now supporting Elizabeth Warren, 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna probably see that trend continue. 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: So I don't see her necessarily getting into a you know, 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: back in political political food by me. But I do 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: see her as she did in the first debate, and 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: she has done so many times forums. Every time we 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: see her, she's always talking to about policy. She's always 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: right on message. I think she's gonna have a really 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: good knife. This is gonna be interesting to see that dynamic, 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: even though the two of them have made it very 66 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: clear they have a lot of mutual respect for each other. 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Adrian L. Rods here, she's a democratic strategist, former senior 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: aide and director of strategic communications to the Hillary Clinton 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: residential campaign. We're here broadcasting inside at the Spin Room, 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: and Adrian, yesterday, when I spoke with the press secretary 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to Senator Bernie Sanders campaign, she told me essentially, there's 72 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: there's not going to be like a political the boxing touch. 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: But ultimately the contrast here is that Senator Sanders he's 74 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: embracing the term socialist. He's embracing the term democratic socialist, 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: calling himself for there to be a political revolution, as 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: he puts it. Senator Warren in contrast, well, she's saying 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: that she's a capitalist who believes in rules and believes 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: in government, of being a political referee where it serves. 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: I want to play for you what Senator Bernie Sanders 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: said last week on Jimmy Kimmel on Late at Night, 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: because I think it gives a good flavor of how 82 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: he's trying to win over some of those voters that 83 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned that are switching back, are switching over rather 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: to Senator Ward's campaign. Take a list. The only way 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: we take on powerful special interests is when millions of 86 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: people stamp up and say enough is enough that the 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: one percent cannot have it at all. So that was 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders last week speaking to Kimmel, and then 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: just the other day, Senator Elizabeth Warren speaking in another 90 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: key battleground state, Ohio and Toledo. She really went after 91 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: some of the same working class voters that are going 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: to decide this prim Mary, take a listen to Senator 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: Warren and Warren administration. You know who's gonna be in 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: the room to negotiate. It's gonna be laborers. So that 95 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: was Senator Elizabeth Warren, both of them embracing that populous 96 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: shriek in Democratic progressive circles. She's called for reimposing Glass Stiegel. 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some other candidates on stage tonight, including 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Pete Boha, Jedge, South Ben Mayor of Indiana, and Senator 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Amy Klobachar. Who else is on your radar for tonight? Well, 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Labetta a work. I kind of think this is sort 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: of a Hail Mary night for him. You know, I 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: don't think he's qualified as far as I know for 103 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: the third debate um which, of course, the thresholds of 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the DNC is mandated laid forth for the third debate 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: or significantly higher than qualifying for the first two. So 106 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: for some of these folks tonight, this is probably gonna 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: be their last debate. John Delaney, perhaps John Governor John 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Higgins Looper from Colorado. I'm I'm gonna be looking for 109 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, Amy Klobisher has got 110 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: to do something to really make her mark. You know, 111 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: she's gone out of the campaign trail and talked about 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the fact that she is the moderate. She wants to 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: fix Obamacare, she doesn't want to repeal it. Um, she's 114 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: the Midwesterner who can win back some of these rest 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: belt states. That's sort of been her stick. But she's 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: still in the like two to three percent range if that. Well, 117 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: I think she's just had a hard time getting her 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: message out and so she needs a breakthrough moment tonight. 119 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: I think she has an Now, she did announce that 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: she qualified for this third debate, so this is not 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: a make or break night for her, But she doesn't 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: need to do something and to get her fundraising numbers 123 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: up there, you know, to to sort of make her mark. 124 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I think if you're bet too, I mean, he just 125 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: he's just bleeding money right now. His burn rate is 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: out the roof. And the burn rate, by the way, 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: for your listeners who may not know, is the rate 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: of money that you're spending versus what you're raising. Bet 129 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: who had a great first quarter, he had a really 130 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: terrible second quarter. Um, he's got to show why he's 131 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: still in this race tonight, mayor Pete. I'm gonna be 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: looking to see how he delivers a message to African 133 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: American voters. Um, he doesn't have to say explicitly that's 134 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: what he's doing, but he needs to do something to 135 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: show African American voters. Hey, listen, I'm I'm your guy. Um, 136 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, at least give me a chance, consider me, 137 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: look at me, think about me, because right now he 138 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: has basically I think is anywhere from point oh three 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: to point five or sent nationally among African Americans. We 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: all know Democrats simply cannot win. A Democrat cannot be 141 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: the nominee without African American support, and a Democratic win 142 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: can it cannot win the presidency without the support of 143 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: African Americans. Coming up, we're gonna talk more about how 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: the racial rhetoric in this country could impact tonight and 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow night at the Democratic presidential debate. But quickly, Adrian, 146 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: in terms of setting the stage for those lower tier candidates, 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: just remind our audience how crucial tonight is in order 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: to get to the other debates coming up in the fall. 149 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: So the other debates that qualify for the third debate, 150 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: you've got to raise unique donations from at least a 151 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: hundred thirty thousand donors to qualify for the first and 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: second debate. That number was sixty five thousand, and so 153 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: now is a hundred and thirty thousand. You also have 154 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: to qualify and at least four polls two percent or higher. 155 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Four qualified polls. The DNC has sanction to basically mainstream 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: polls right in NBC, all the major networks either national 157 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: polls or early state polls. So basically the threshold is 158 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: doubled for the next debate, and that's going to be 159 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: great challenging, I think for some folks. Stakes are here 160 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: in the Motor City, Detroit, Motown City. All right, coming 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: up more policy and politics. 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That was Senator Elizabeth Warren, 171 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,359 Speaker 1: Democrat from Massachusetts, weighing in on President Trump's tweets regarding Baltimore. 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from UH for Bloomberg 173 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Television of Bloomberg Radio. I'm broadcasting live from inside of 174 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: the CNN Debate Spin Room in Detroit, Michigan, and I'm 175 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: joined by two political all stars. Adrian L. Rod Is here, 176 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: she is a Democratic strategist, former AID and director of 177 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Strategic Communications to the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. And Adam Green, 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 1: a Warren World insider and co founder of the Progressive 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Change Campaign Committee. Adam, you just heard from Senator Elizabeth Warren. 180 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: Do you think she's going to strike that same tone 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: tonight in just a few short hours when she takes 182 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the stage at Night one of the second Democratic presidential 183 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: debate as the candidates all have to weigh in on 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: President Trump's tweets regarding Baltimore. Well, I think she will. 185 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: So these these Trump tweets really are having two impacts. 186 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I think one, it's a reminder to all Democratic voters 187 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: about the need to win this election right. It's a 188 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: reminder about the high stakes in this selection too. It 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: really is putting the emphasis on electability in this selection. 190 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: People will be watching the debate tonight saying who can 191 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: I trust to be on the debate stage to throw 192 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: smart punches against Trump, really make the case not just 193 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: call Trump a racist, but really inspire people and have 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: a good presence on stage. No when to punch it, 195 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: no whent not not to punch I feel very confident 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Lawrence presidence on debate stage. Yeah, and I do too. 197 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: I think race is going to be unfortunately more of 198 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: an issue, I think than we realize. Probably ten days ago, 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: two weeks ago before Trump went on this like crazy 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: ran against the squad and you know this, this is 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: like crazy misogynists, the racist ran and of course and 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: against Elijah Cummings saying all the derogatory things about Baltimore. 203 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Of course, we need to have a discussion about race 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: in this country. But we got to remember in two 205 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: thousand eight, when race was an issue in Rock Obama 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton we're dogging it out the primary. That 207 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: was for a good reason. Right now we're dealing with 208 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: somebody who is trying to take us back to like 209 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. So the candidates all 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: on the stage tonight, I'll share the same views that 211 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: racism is important and that Donald Trump's comments are terrible. 212 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I think it's just going to take up a little 213 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: bit more oxygen than it typically would tonight on that 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: topic because of Trump's recent comments and his tirade against 215 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of African Americans and people of color. 216 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: I do you want to make note, just drawing on 217 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: some of my reporting, when I speak with Republican sources, 218 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: including folks at the Republican National Committee, they vehement late 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: denied that President Trump is a racist, and they say 220 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: that these are marks are not racist. So that's what 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: the Republicans are saying, which is unbelievable. I mean, it's unbelievable. Yeah, 222 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I guy just want to underscore the undercurrent. There's the 223 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: literal debate happening on stage about race, but then there's 224 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: very scared progressive Democratic voters saying who can beat Trump, 225 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: and that's where there's more of a subtext of who 226 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: is on the basis. So definitely this will likely come 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: up tonight in Night one of the second Democratic presidential debate. 228 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren will be on the stage. Senator Bernie Sanders, 229 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: Pete Buddha, Jed south Ben, Mayor of Indiana Amy Koloba 230 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: char looking to have a breakout moment, the Senator from Minnesota, 231 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Tim Ryan Ever, a Democrat from Ohio, h John 232 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Hick and Looper also going to be on there, Steve Bullocks, 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: the two governors as well, the issue of trade policy. Uh, 234 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: it's something that they're also going to have to contrast 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: themselves on, especially centrist candidates versus more progressive leaning candidates. 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what President Trump said today with 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: regards to whether or not he's whether or not he 238 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: believes there's going to be a US China trade deal 239 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: ahead of the election. Here is I think the biggest 240 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: problem do a great deal is China would love to 241 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: wait and just hope. They hope it's not gonna happen. 242 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: I hope, but they would just love if I got 243 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: to meet it so they could deal with somebody like 244 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren or slippy Joe Biden or any of these people, 245 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: because then they'd be allowed and able to continue to 246 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: rip off our country. That was President Trump speaking before 247 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Marine one. The helicopter blades. Really you could hear them there, 248 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: but he's essentially saying Adrian L. Rod Democratic strategists that look, 249 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get a deal with China, as Treasury 250 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Secretary Stephen Venusian and US Trade Representative Bob Lynheiser are 251 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: literally en Ralphe to Shanghai, to negotiate with Chinese Vice 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: Premier Hippa that it's because the Chinese are playing a 253 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: long game and they would rather they think that they 254 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: could get better options with a Biden or warn or Sanders. Yeah, 255 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: it's nice how he continuously makes excuses for his inability 256 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: to govern or to get a strike, any sort of 257 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: deal with the government enemies. Again, we got to remember 258 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: this as the president who has um, you know, seemed 259 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: to find more common ground with dictatorsly the North Korean 260 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: dictator and um Vladimer Putin in Russia than like actual 261 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: allies of the United States government. Um. But but look, 262 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I Donald Trump is trying to distract and to flact 263 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: like he always does. He's trying to always place the 264 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: blame on somebody else, and China maybe playing the long game. 265 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: They're pretty strategic at this kind of thing, So it 266 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. It wouldn't surprise me if they're They've 267 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: got a tactical play in here on the debate stage. 268 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: How do the candidates very quickly out of green, How 269 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: did the candidates differentiate themselves amongst one another on trade policy? Quickly? Yeah, 270 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: so I trade comes up. There are really two audiences 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: they're speaking to. One is farmers and business people who 272 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: are actually literally hurt by the trade policies and care 273 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: about the weeds. But then there's the broad majority of 274 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Democratic voters who aren't following all the details but want 275 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: to hear someone who can take on Trump's populism, who 276 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: are willing to challenge make corporation. We're gonna have more 277 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: on that coming up. I'm Kevin CURIALI, Chief Washington correspondent 278 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg TV and Bloomberg Radio, broadcasting live from inside 279 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: at the CNN Debate Spin Room. You can listen to 280 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: the debate here on Bloomberg Radio. Um, we've got it 281 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: all covered, every angle. This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg. 282 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surrele, live from the Democratic presidential 283 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: debate in Detroit on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin CURRELLI, Chief 284 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, and I'm 285 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: here inside of the spin room. No, I'm not dizzy yet, 286 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: where the second Democratic presidential debate is just hours away 287 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: from getting started. You can listen to it live here 288 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Watch it, of course at this on CNN. 289 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: It's the CNN Debate, Night one of a two night 290 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: double headed special. We've got an all star panel to 291 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: dive into the politics and the policy. But first, Bob Moon, 292 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: let's get it caught up on the world. The news 293 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: headlines Kevin, thank you. President Trump is claiming a ground 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: swell of African American support in response to his comments 295 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: denigrating Representative Elijah Cummings and his majority black Baltimore district, 296 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: despite polling showing consistently negative numbers. Speaking to reporters at 297 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: the White House, Trump suggested that the White House had 298 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: been flooded from African American phone callers, thanking him for 299 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: getting involved and exposing corruption. He didn't say how they 300 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: had counted African Americans on the phone. Senate Majority Leader 301 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell is joining his fellow Republicans in taking a 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: weight and see approach to President Trump's nominee for National 303 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Intelligence Director, saying that he doesn't know him. McConnell says 304 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: he looks forward to meeting with Texas Representative John Ratcliffe, 305 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: the President's choice for the job. Trump says the intelligence 306 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: community has run them up and needs to be reined in. 307 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: Global news twenty four hours a day on air and 308 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: at TikTok on Twitter. I'm Bob Moon and Kevin. I'm 309 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television Bloomberg Radio. 310 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm here inside of the Spin Room across the street 311 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: from the historic Fox Theater in downtown Detroit, Michigan, in 312 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: battleground key, battleground state for the looming presidential election. I'm 313 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: with an all star panel Adrian L. Rod, Democratic strategists, 314 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: Adam Green, co founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, 315 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: and my colleague Bloomberg News national political correspondent, Gregory Corti. Gregory, 316 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you so much for being here. Uh, 317 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about the politics of this how 318 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren Senator Sanders are looking to contrast potentially 319 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: themselves for the progressive vote. We talked about a little 320 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: bit about policy, about how racial politics might play in 321 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: tonight one. But I want to go back to other 322 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: key issues like Medicare for all, for example, and Wall 323 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Street regulations. How do you think those issues are going 324 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to play out in this second Democratic presidential debate. Well, 325 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: tonight we have uh, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Uh, 326 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: those are the two, uh, the candidates who are going 327 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: to highlight the debate stags in and they seem to 328 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: have pretty much a mutual non aggression ipact. Uh. They 329 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: are they're they're keeping the gloves on uh. And the 330 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: way they differentiate themselves, I don't even think they're in 331 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: the ring yet. Candidly, well, yeah, absolutely, and I think 332 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: they're disagreeing that they're they're distinguishing themselves more on style 333 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: than on substance. They agree on abolishing private health insurance, 334 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: they agree on some some more bold tax proposals. There 335 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: might be some differences in the on the margins, but 336 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: it's more sort of Bernie sanders bold brand of democratic 337 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: socialism versus Elizabeth Warren's more policy oriented approach. Uh to 338 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: more maybe a little bit more incremental, more more of 339 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: a roadmap to get us from here to there than 340 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: than Bernie has. Yeah, I expect a one to hunt 341 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: from Sanders and Warren, basically combating some of the more 342 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: conservative Democrats on the stage like John hickliber John Delaney, 343 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the two John's, maybe some others who will likely throw 344 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: punches on Medicare for all. And one thing that we 345 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: have to remember is during the Obamacare fight, Uh, the 346 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: most popular Democratic proposals were those that directly challenge insurance 347 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: industry power. The least popular ones were the ones that 348 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: built up insurance industry power, like a mandate, which is 349 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: now gone. So there is a troubling trend right now 350 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: of some Democrats going in the opposite direction, kind of 351 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: towards the insurance companies. I get away from challenging them, 352 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: and our worry is that makes Democrats less electable for 353 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: go in that direction. I don't think we'll see that 354 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: tonight from Biden, or sorry, from Bernie, or from Warren. 355 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Gregory Corti, Bloomberg News national political correspondent. How does someone 356 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: like a Senator Amy Clover, char Democrat from Minnesota she 357 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: saw on the stage tonight, says that she's a centrist 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: more centrist leading candidate. How does she play at all 359 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: all of the issue of medicare for all? Yeah, she's 360 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: She's kind of interesting because she is in this zone 361 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: between the front runners and the people on the edges 362 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: of the stage who are just gonna be uh uh 363 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: taking uh, you know, pot shots at at the center. Um, 364 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know again, it's a more sort of 365 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: pragmatic policy oriented approach, uh, not particularly uh dogmatic. Um. 366 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: And you know, it'll be interesting to see how those 367 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: candidates and I'm thinking also of you know, Buddha, Judge 368 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: and and uh better or work. Uh, they're sort of 369 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: safe going forward in the debates. Uh, so they can't 370 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to have this breakout moment. But 371 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, uh, you know, they you know 372 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: that they have to to get some traction. They have 373 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: to inject themselves into these debates on on on these 374 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: big issues. You know, there was a moment in the 375 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: first Democratic presidential debate Adrian el Rod Democratic strategists where 376 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders said, essentially, yes, if you were president, 377 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: taxes for the middle class would increase. Is that a 378 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: winning message? No, it's not a winning message. This is 379 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: exactly why you've seen Bernie Sanders numbers go down over 380 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: the course in the last few months, because when it 381 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: was just two candidates, and I don't I with all 382 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: to respect to Martin O'Malley, I don't count him really 383 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: in the in the trip differ kind of primary flashbacks 384 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: to go ahead, But when it was just Hillary v. By, 385 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean sorry, Hillary v. Bernie. I mean, there was 386 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: only one other alternative, Hillary Clinton. Now you've got a 387 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: bunch of alternatives. And Elizabeth Warren, to the point that 388 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, Elizabeth Warren has more of 389 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: a strategic path to getting these progressive policies that Fort 390 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: Sanders has championed for so long past. She's actually got 391 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: a real plan and a real strategy, whereas Bernie Sanders 392 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: is basically like, I'm going to raise your taxes. Yeah, 393 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: so as Adrians others. No, you can see the same 394 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: thing ten different ways, and some are more popular than others. Obviously, 395 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: leading with I'm gonna raise your taxes is not a 396 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: good idea. The idea that you know your kid currently 397 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: is dependent on four private, for profit insurance companies that 398 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: make money by denying your kid care. I'm gonna challenge 399 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: those companies that That's a very strong foot forward for Democrats. 400 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: And that's where Elizabeth Warren I think it's put you know, 401 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: most of her emphasis. I will challenge insurance company just 402 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: like I've challenged big corporations all my life. Gregory Quartie, Yeah, 403 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: I started agree with that. I mean, and again this 404 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: goes back what I was saying before is that the 405 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: differences between Sanders and Warren are primarily on those kinds 406 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: of things that Uh, Sanders is going to articulate he 407 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: wants to get from here to revolution in one step, 408 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: and uh, somebody like Sanders has more of a policy 409 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: roadmap to get us there. Here's the thing though about 410 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: this particular Democratic primary, is that there's a lot of 411 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: anger on the left and there may be some voters 412 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: who that Sanders brand of let's just blow up the 413 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: system and start from scratching that might appeal to them. 414 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm here inside of the debate spin room 415 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: in downtown Detroit. Michigan a key battleground state, and Gregory 416 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: just quickly, I mean, how crucial is Michigan for Democrats 417 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: and Republicans? Aycle well, President Trump won Michigan obviously in 418 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen by the narrowest of margins. He's gonna need 419 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin again, all things being equal, 420 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: in order to win the presidency. Uh. It's a state 421 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: that that obviously is receptive to a candidate who was 422 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: going to be aggressive on trade and tariffs. It's it's 423 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: a state that's been buffeted by the global economy, standers 424 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: one against Clinton back in the Democratic primary. Yeah, it's 425 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: it's There is some very real economic angst in this 426 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: state and other rust belt states, and candidates who can 427 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: tap into that are going to be successful. All right, 428 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: Panel stays coming up more politics and policy from downtown Detroit, Michigan. 429 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Were just hours away from night one of the second 430 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate. You can download the sound on podcasts 431 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: on Apple, it tunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 432 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us 433 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify, and 434 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: stay tuned as the Democratic presidential candidates square off in 435 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: their second debate tonight at eight pm. Right here on 436 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin s. Really, this is Bloomberg. This 437 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. Sound On with Kevin Shirley, live from the 438 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate in Detroit on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Kevin Surrele, 439 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, and 440 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm here live in Motor City, inside of the Spin 441 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: Room in downtown Detroit, Michigan, across the street from the 442 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Historic Box theater, Elvis Presley performed there, asked Shirley Temple 443 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: back in the day, how's that for a flashback? But 444 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: tonight it's all eyes on Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, 445 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: two progressives who are hoping to make their case in 446 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: night one of the second Democratic presidential debate to voters 447 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: to become the Democratic presidential nominee. I'm joined by a 448 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: panel of all stars. Adrian L. Rod is a Democratic strategist, 449 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: former senior aide and director of strategic communications to the 450 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton presidential campaign. Adam Green is a Elizabeth Warren 451 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: world insider. He is co founder of the Progressive Change 452 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Campaign Committee and Tammy had Ad of had Ad Media. 453 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: She is the former political director for ms NBC. She's 454 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: organized several debates and you know all the backstory. We've 455 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: talked about policy politics. But I gotta be honest. Yeah, 456 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: you look at CNN, which is putting on this debate, Tim, 457 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's twenty candidates. That's twenty egos at the 458 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: candidate level. Then you look at all their staffers. I mean, 459 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: this is a this is a marathon to put on. 460 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: And how about all the anchors lined up doing heavy 461 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: duty the son right in their eyes. But they just 462 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: look like they're at the super Bowl. We all look 463 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: like we're at the super Bowl because we are. That's 464 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: exactly why you do it. So so what what is 465 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: different in terms of your experience in the political world? 466 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: What is different about these debates than I don't know, 467 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: a decade or two decades ago. Oh my god, am 468 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: I down? Oh now you told everyone I'm an old woman. 469 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: But it's okay. Now here's the difference you've got. Didn't 470 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: say that. I know you didn't say it. I'll just 471 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: to correct the record. You did not say that all. 472 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, that's what tonight's all about. Making 473 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: a point, then making a point again. But the hard 474 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: thing is, when you've got so many candidates on the stage, 475 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: how can you make a point? So I ran into 476 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: John Delaney. Everyone ran into him because he goes from 477 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: person a person, lobby, lobby right at him, right, Adrian. 478 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: How many times you guys run into at and shaking 479 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: hands getting the word out? And the problem is you've 480 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: got eight minutes, nine minutes. But if you were a producer, 481 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do, it's make news in those 482 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: eight nine minutes. That's not easy. And now you're playing 483 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Adrian no rods social media. You're trying to have that 484 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: viral moment. I mean Senator Kamala Harris, who's not on 485 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: the debate stage tonight, she'll be on tomorrow. When she 486 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: went after Joe Biden, I mean her instagram, she had 487 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: that childhood photograph of her ready to go. They came 488 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: to play on that viral moment and that I think 489 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: you're not just playing to the networks. You're not just 490 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: playing to air waves, you're playing to social media. Yeah, no, Kevin, 491 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: You're exactly right. And look, not every candidate to have 492 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: a viral moment, but tonight there are some who need 493 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: to write. We talked about meta a work, for example, 494 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: who has had a burn rate that is far out 495 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: of control, which basically means he's not he's spending more 496 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: than he's raising. He needs to be able to have 497 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: a moment on that stage that reminds people number one, 498 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: why is he running for the presidency? Why is he 499 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: seeking the nomination? And number two inspires people to make 500 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: a donation, to make a two dollar donation, five dollar donation, 501 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: twenty dollar donation. So he does need to have some 502 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: sort of moment. I would put Mayor Beat in that 503 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: category too, because he needs to raise money, but because 504 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: he's been he's sort of fallen flat a little bit. 505 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: You know, he had his moment about six weeks two 506 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: months ago, since he had the situation with the with 507 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: the police chief in in Um South Bend, he's had 508 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: sort of a hard time, I think, kind of coming back. 509 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: He also needs to, of course, to help use this 510 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: moment tonight to diversify as electorates, as he has basically 511 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: no support of money African Americans. I want to go 512 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes and and and even more into sort 513 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: of the machine that exists into producing and putting on 514 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: these types of campaign offense. And they really are marathons, 515 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Adam Green in terms of Senator Elizabeth Warren for example, Yes, 516 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: everyone talks about a viral moment, and we don't dig deeper, 517 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: we don't peel back the other layer, which to Adrian A. 518 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Tammy's point is that that can help fuel small dollar 519 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: donations and getting that message out there on social media 520 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: platforms is a really a way to raise money and 521 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: not just a way to trend on Twitter. Yeah, that's right, 522 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: and I definitely agree with Adrian. There are different imperatives 523 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: for different people, and for Elizabeth Warren, you know, if 524 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: you think about it, she's the one major candidate who 525 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: has not had a flash in the pan kind of 526 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: sugar high moment right with a big up and a 527 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: big down. She's gone a point by point methodically, just 528 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: by getting in front of war people and really connecting 529 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: her plans with her personal story of struggle and emotionally 530 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: compelling way. So the hope is that she can just 531 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: keep doing what she's been doing in the rooms in Iowa, 532 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, but in front of millions of people, and 533 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, I predict that would actually go viral on 534 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: her behalf. Others really do need some kind of Hail 535 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Mary anything, which we'll see if they get in. Kevin, 536 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I think you're right about looking for that viral moment. 537 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: And you know, as a TV producer you always say, 538 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: it's not what the candidate says, but it's what people 539 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: say right after the debate. Even when you look at 540 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: presidential speeches, right after the debate is actually when the 541 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: numbers totally spike. And I would argue all of these 542 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: folks behind us, their analysis is as important as what 543 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: the candidate's gonna say, why is the well because people 544 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: want to know what it all means. They're not sitting 545 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: there there washing the dishes, They're on their iPad, they're 546 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: playing with their kids, are putting the kids to bed, 547 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and so they're looking for someone to make sense of 548 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: this crazy political world we're living in, don't you think 549 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: aging No, I do, Tammy, And as somebody who was 550 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: working very closely with surrogates during the campaign, You're exactly right. 551 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: You've got to make sure that they have those three 552 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: to four points that you want them to drive home 553 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: right after this first debate. Of course, we've got to 554 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: remember in the Democratic primary there were only three people 555 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: on stage in the debate. But this is there are 556 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: different deals. So you've got all kinds of people from 557 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: different pains trying to find pendants, trying to find people 558 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: like us. We're going on television, going on radio to 559 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: make sure that they're delivering the message from there. I 560 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: mean to to Tammy's point, I mean, here, i am 561 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: at the Shinola Hotel this morning and I'm having a 562 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: little brackie. First of all, Shinola Hotels waffles were out 563 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: and those pancakes to the table. I knew they made watch. 564 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea they made waffles. But John Delandy 565 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: is over there schmoozing, you know, talking to voters, talking 566 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: to to Tammy's point, all the insiders trying to say, hey, look, 567 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's essentially capitalized on the notion where he's 568 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: made the calculation that he can get some free media 569 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: if he goes after the squad as well, or goes 570 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: after congress Woman Alexandria Costio Cortez and says, look, I'm 571 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: the centrist in this race. I want to go through 572 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: the other list. We talked about Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warnon, 573 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: Beto Oboard, Pete Bout and gen Amy Cklobchar. I think 574 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Senator Klobchar really has the potential to have one of 575 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: those breakout moments tonight. She had a bat in capital, 576 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: but she needs one. But Kevin, you should know. She 577 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: did an interview with Bob Costs at the Shuldn't Post 578 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: last week, and when he said to her, what are 579 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: you gonna do in the debate to stand out? She said, well, 580 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, Bob, there are independents and Republicans watching too, 581 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: which we all sort of rolled her eyes. Like, what 582 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: is she talking about? Aren't you going after Democrats? But 583 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: you can argue, hey, that's pretty smart, right, Maybe she's 584 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, differentiate herself and not look 585 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: like she's to the left of the squad. Speaking in 586 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: the left of the squad. I have to my left 587 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: to Adam Green, Right, Adam, thank you very much. Kevin 588 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: talking everything I know? But I mean, Tim Ryan's on 589 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: this stage tonight. What about Andrew Yang right tomorrow tomorrow? 590 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: You Williams said, I mean not to make light and 591 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: I love soft destinies. Not that showed him. But but 592 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: in terms of Mary and Williamson, but for real, I mean, 593 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: when are these candidates I know what I mean if 594 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: anyone's listening to supports Mary and Williamson. I mean, look, 595 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: stranger things in the world have happened. But when are 596 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: these candidates who perhaps don't have the long term viability 597 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: sustainability going to have to drop out? At him? When 598 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: will they have to drop out? Yes, well, they might 599 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: apparently have to drop out if they don't qualify for 600 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: the September debate stage um, but honestly, some people might 601 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: just keep doing it due to the fact they have 602 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: nothing better to do, right, I mean, Marianne, so I 603 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: never got hurt by staying in. I mean it's funny because, 604 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: like you know, Rick s ant Horam is known as 605 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: having come in second place in the Republican primarising he 606 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: wasn't actually the second most popular person. He just stayed 607 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: in while everybody else who is more quick and he's 608 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: going to be on CNN later, Okay, so it works. 609 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: He got a contract, became HUT secretary, right and literally, 610 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: like right next to the Fox Theater, the Historic Theater, 611 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: there's this the film wore the legendary Filmore. I think 612 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton did an event there. Why do I remember that? 613 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: But but there's a at the what's that the Marquis. 614 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: The Marquis says, uh, Maryanne Williamson is going to be 615 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: having a post debate party. My producer, David Sutraman told 616 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: me he's like he licked up. I saw David the 617 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: list and you've got all of these. I mean, she's 618 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: she's really elevating herself to a national political voice. But 619 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: you know what, Kevin, it's an ironic that you're asking 620 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: these questions because we originally met in Iowa at the caucuses. 621 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: You with the first reporter on the Trump campaign. And 622 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: remember everyone said he didn't have a chance. What changed everything? 623 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: What really changed everybates the debates, debates, the debates, and 624 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: so I think that's what everyone's gonna be talking about 625 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: in terms of really the next forty eight hours. President 626 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Trump will betweeting about it tomorrow. Uh Biden, And that's 627 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: really where I want to get. I want to get 628 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: your Adrian L. Rod, your quick take on this. What 629 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: does Joe Biden have to do tomorrow? Simple, he's got 630 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: to have a much better performance than he did the 631 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: first during the first debate. I think he's got to 632 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: rise above the fray. He's got to make he's got 633 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: to draw a contrast on on healthcare, which he does 634 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: have a significantly different position than Kamala Harris and some 635 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: of his other close competitors. Um, and he's just gotta 636 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: do a better job. You know, I thought I was 637 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna see Joe Biden on the first debate sort of 638 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: rise above the fray and try to frame that his 639 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: narrative as Biden versus Trump, and stead he allowed himself 640 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: to get too far in the hot up in the 641 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Atria and Atrian he was the vice president all those 642 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: years exactly. I mean, if we could talk in politics forever. 643 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know Adam Green's like I got any more talk. 644 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: We don't have more time. We don't have time. But 645 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: I really do want to thank Adrian L. 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