Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we got
Speaker 1: Grandpa Peter's cooking man.
Speaker 2: It is so good.
Speaker 1: We talked about all the new faces coming in the
Speaker 1: old faces.
Speaker 2: That are coming back.
Speaker 1: You did such a good job identifying who we are
Speaker 1: what we need to be as commanders.
Speaker 2: And then did Fred take a nap in the parking lot?
Speaker 2: My back went out, his back went out? Is that
Speaker 2: true story? It all starts right now. Welcome into the
Speaker 2: Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Logan Falsenate with Fred Scoot and Santana Mosy.
Speaker 2: It is I know this today. I switched it up, dude,
Speaker 2: you got me.
Speaker 1: I was dying last couple of times you said that it.
Speaker 3: Is I.
Speaker 1: And as always we are presented by Cognire Technology Secure Today,
Speaker 1: Shape Tomorrow, and so today we are going to do
Speaker 1: a big, huge, comprehensive free agency review kind of talk
Speaker 1: about maybe some additional moves that you would make and
Speaker 1: free agency things they're keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: But Fred and I have a bet a year a
Speaker 2: little bit, it's a years old. Bet, it's not quite
Speaker 2: a years old yet, just shy of a year.
Speaker 1: About a month, yeah, about a month side of the air,
Speaker 1: and basically what it is is we did.
Speaker 2: Jason, can you help me through this real quick?
Speaker 3: It's yeah.
Speaker 4: So I produced a show with you, It's our Ticket
Speaker 4: to the Draft podcast and Fred came on last year
Speaker 4: Drafty Challenge. You challenge each other to do your guaranteed
Speaker 4: ballers in the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So now we're a year past, so we can see
Speaker 4: if your guarantees paid out or not. But you guys
Speaker 4: made a bet on that podcast one who would have
Speaker 4: the better or more?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Here, I was pretty confident on the line in a
Speaker 2: year from now to this date.
Speaker 5: It's your birthday to this date, one of us we.
Speaker 3: Have to stand up in front of the other, one.
Speaker 5: On one knee, insane, Yeah, own one knee and say
Speaker 5: you my friend on this drift gluru in the building
Speaker 5: and I'm nothing and I personally am nothing.
Speaker 2: Unless that's right.
Speaker 6: So that's I gotta find out how one needle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on one need So that's what's on the line.
Speaker 4: And we decided this is going to be a visual thing.
Speaker 4: It's better to do visually than podcasts. So or the
Speaker 4: Command Center show that will air on April seventeenth, right
Speaker 4: before the draft.
Speaker 3: Fred, that's also.
Speaker 4: Your birthday, My birthday, so it could be Fred's greatest
Speaker 4: birthday or worse birthday, because one of them is going
Speaker 4: to have to do this on the show.
Speaker 3: So make sure you tune in.
Speaker 7: Told Logan to bring his knee pads then he used
Speaker 7: to play him.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, You're gonna have to hit that
Speaker 3: knee and say.
Speaker 2: You really.
Speaker 1: The more I think about this, the more mad I
Speaker 1: got about it. I'm just like, did I really make
Speaker 1: that bet?
Speaker 2: Because I don't. I don't need that. I don't need
Speaker 2: that smoke in my life.
Speaker 7: Yes, you do, because you feel, you feel very confident
Speaker 7: in your draft analysis, you feel very companies in your
Speaker 7: draft breakdown, and then here comes guru like me who
Speaker 7: does is our frequency and sound ways and feel and
Speaker 7: I do it differently.
Speaker 6: So would this befred first win?
Speaker 8: If he does win beta beta quite quite a few times,
Speaker 8: and I don't think he's.
Speaker 6: One one.
Speaker 1: Because the thing I'm worried about those is I picked
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: them are injured this year or so I'm just like,
Speaker 1: and I know Fred picking my liars, but yeah, so.
Speaker 6: What it would be good if you get a win?
Speaker 7: Because I mean, that's why I say we should have
Speaker 7: been bowled by now, that would have been a victory.
Speaker 7: But I must tell y'all these guys this weekend I
Speaker 7: felt mortality and this is.
Speaker 6: What I mean.
Speaker 7: I pulled to a gas station. In the gas station
Speaker 7: it was vacuums, so I was like, oh, it's seventy degrees.
Speaker 7: Let me vacuum the car. I get out the car,
Speaker 7: go on the passioner side, put the coins in there,
Speaker 7: start the vacuum, and my back goes.
Speaker 3: Sat Tanna.
Speaker 7: I had laying on the concrete when I called and passing,
Speaker 7: not able to move.
Speaker 3: My God, listen to me. When I crawled, I didn't
Speaker 3: even been the vacuum. The cotte threw the vacuum down.
Speaker 7: I crawled around till the driver's side.
Speaker 3: God myself into the seat.
Speaker 8: I just need to know what what gas station so
Speaker 8: I can get to carry.
Speaker 3: I want to see.
Speaker 2: It was the BP.
Speaker 6: I want to see it.
Speaker 7: Right by Philo there right there. I literally fell to
Speaker 7: the ground. It was down for like at least.
Speaker 3: No one came up to nobody not to help me.
Speaker 3: All they see all they heard in the background. Oh
Speaker 3: the truth heaping in my back.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: It was so embarrassing.
Speaker 7: And then when I got home, I was like, it's here,
Speaker 7: So I say, it's all down here from now, like
Speaker 7: it's no turning back now.
Speaker 2: To you forty forty five, but your birthday come up.
Speaker 8: But see, this is the thing, this is why it
Speaker 8: goes out because he lies so much about the working
Speaker 8: out he's doing, and then he finally needs to kick in.
Speaker 9: He can't you do about don't I just rode a
Speaker 9: bike the way.
Speaker 2: They couldn't even didn't even miss a beat.
Speaker 6: Mortalent and immortality with.
Speaker 2: Some people that are still incredibly vital. Yeah, still young
Speaker 2: in shape.
Speaker 8: Shape, seven year old woman out there doing squats and
Speaker 8: doing pull ups. You know what I mean. So you
Speaker 8: know in my bad going out and want to see
Speaker 8: talking with that tongue.
Speaker 3: Listen, And I asked for help.
Speaker 2: I can't you know, I'm not the fact you crawled
Speaker 2: and pretty listen to me, I'm not playing.
Speaker 7: When I got home, I can't, like daddy all right, no,
Speaker 7: like I need help, like.
Speaker 2: So what you do?
Speaker 7: Literal like it took me because I couldn't sit up
Speaker 7: in my seat. It took me like and this is
Speaker 7: nowhere from my crib to.
Speaker 3: Me like fifteen and you yeah, I'm rolling the sideway.
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't.
Speaker 7: And then listen, I'm serious, man, you I needed help.
Speaker 7: I was like, if I had a life alert right now,
Speaker 7: I would have pressed the button because I was hard
Speaker 7: on him.
Speaker 2: Dude, you should come on one that had been so funny.
Speaker 3: And say can I get up? Copy?
Speaker 2: If you would have come, I would have come helped you.
Speaker 2: I would have recorded you, and then I would come
Speaker 2: help you.
Speaker 8: Say you would have most define while I'm picking.
Speaker 6: Them up, looking at looking at the food, looking at food,
Speaker 6: give me, give me, give me your head.
Speaker 3: I haven't get.
Speaker 6: Then when his head get for always joking on people?
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, right, you gotta call the guest. You got.
Speaker 6: This podcast footage? Man? We read it?
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Well, see if you can find
Speaker 2: that footage. Track it down for you.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So we're doing a free agency review, and again
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that we're really excited to
Speaker 1: talk about. I'm just gonna say the names off real quick.
Speaker 1: We got Deebo, Samuel Who, Javon Kinlaw who, Will Harris,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, Dietrich Wise, and Eddie Goldman are kind of
Speaker 1: the Martoy Marquee signings of that group. And so I
Speaker 1: guess we've already.
Speaker 2: Talked a lot about Devo when he does for the offense, but.
Speaker 1: You know, just talking about maybe Adam Peters and his
Speaker 1: kind of ability to find some pieces, you know, that
Speaker 1: weren't on the board initially.
Speaker 7: To start, I've learned this about Adam Peters. First of all,
Speaker 7: let grandma cook hashtag. Second of all, copyright. He's seeing
Speaker 7: through jed opp mind tricks. Where other people see this
Speaker 7: is a slow market, not him, because he ain't looking
Speaker 7: at boy who's free.
Speaker 3: He looking at who's on your roster. He's looking at situations.
Speaker 7: He literally back and watch the Texans last year go
Speaker 7: on the spending spree because they feel like they was
Speaker 7: in they wonder knowing that they were gonna have to
Speaker 7: pay people. And now here it comes and he says,
Speaker 7: you know what, here goes a cap situation. Let me
Speaker 7: go and take advantage of it. Listen, Adam Peters Jedi.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 8: I think when you look back at just some of
Speaker 8: the things that we did last year, we was able
Speaker 8: to do last year with those guys that we brought in, we.
Speaker 6: Didn't really know, you know what it was going to
Speaker 6: look like.
Speaker 8: We know, we brought in a lot of guys on
Speaker 8: to put them on a one year deals, and we
Speaker 8: was like, hey, you know a lot of these guys
Speaker 8: are veterans, so we sure that they can catch on quick.
Speaker 6: And when you see the talent.
Speaker 8: Now a year, a year later, a year later, you're like, wow,
Speaker 8: like you know, and you know what we have here
Speaker 8: with the coaching staff.
Speaker 6: You know we have here with some of the young
Speaker 6: talent already.
Speaker 8: So it's just tremendous that you can you you for years,
Speaker 8: we've been saying we need a guy for this job
Speaker 8: for years, we need a real guy who's going to
Speaker 8: know them, who knows how to pick talent. And then
Speaker 8: you get one and it's like year one, then miss
Speaker 8: a b. Year two, well, year one he showed all
Speaker 8: of the year two have missed the beat already. He's
Speaker 8: gotten off to a good start. So now it's now
Speaker 8: it's about seeing how these guys are. I guess you
Speaker 8: can say they fit the puzzle. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: See where where can they slide in and what value
Speaker 8: do they bring to the team.
Speaker 7: Well, just like the great poor Kendre Lamar said, you know,
Speaker 7: sometimes you have to just jump out and show people.
Speaker 3: And that's what he doing.
Speaker 2: Frince Phil himself ready to go back.
Speaker 6: To add to day, keep the painting with.
Speaker 7: All I'm saying is he's on the he was on
Speaker 7: a mission to upgrade at least every room with one
Speaker 7: player like so he's almost pushed where we was last year,
Speaker 7: pushed everybody down one pig and then inserted more talent.
Speaker 3: Like that's how you upgrade the roster.
Speaker 7: I have seen people go out and say I'm gonna
Speaker 7: upgrade the roster, and now they doing his add names. No,
Speaker 7: he's adding, he's adding to an arsenal. And then let's
Speaker 7: let's be honest. He's identified what he want between ken
Speaker 7: law Wise and Goldment.
Speaker 3: He's a mountain of men.
Speaker 2: The big dude thes a.
Speaker 3: We got bigger in it room. Not only better, we
Speaker 3: got bigger.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that defensive line room for a second,
Speaker 1: because again, like two guys that I just got to
Speaker 1: give shout outs to. So Dietrich Wise from the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots plays defensive end, comes in on third down
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle Russian side, is a big man six
Speaker 1: y five ye two hundred and eighty five pounds, big
Speaker 1: old house, good against.
Speaker 2: The run, but also can rush the passer a little bit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman, Right, I played with him in Chicago for
Speaker 1: a year. It's in sixteen. He's a three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five pounds six y five like run stopper.
Speaker 2: That's explosive. You can do line stuffs with him. Stuff.
Speaker 2: So I'm one just like, look at these two dudes,
Speaker 2: like the raising, Like what are the issues they had?
Speaker 2: Last year? Was stopping the run? Right, So let's go
Speaker 2: out and find people.
Speaker 1: Because there's a schematic element, there's also a personnel element too, right,
Speaker 1: So like I don't want Deron have any double teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want Jerzon to have the double teams.
Speaker 2: I can get Eddie Goldman out there, and that's what
Speaker 2: he is good, that's what he's made for. Let's let
Speaker 2: him do that. And so I think that's a great point.
Speaker 1: And then I think the interesting thing about Javon Kinlaw
Speaker 1: is like what is his role Because you're watch him
Speaker 1: on film crazy explosive man like explosive.
Speaker 7: And I'm looking for him to be more explosive because
Speaker 7: they asked him to gain twenty pounds in New York
Speaker 7: because they wanted him to play the point of at tech.
Speaker 3: I'm sure Peter's gonnax him. Let's take that twenty pounds
Speaker 3: back out.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting one because it's like what do
Speaker 1: you because this is the tennis point, like having a
Speaker 1: guy at the gam spot and to Fred's point, like
Speaker 1: that knows what they want and who they want to be.
Speaker 1: Like Javon Kinlaw is not a great run stopper, but
Speaker 1: you can rush the past. So how do you maximize
Speaker 1: that skill set? Because you do have an athlete who
Speaker 1: is unequivocally explosive, dynamic.
Speaker 3: And bad attitude.
Speaker 2: Bad attitude.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he's one of these guys show up with
Speaker 7: a nasty attitude.
Speaker 2: We were talking, you were talking. I didn't watch. His
Speaker 2: interview is great, Brian Colbert on Next Man Up. You
Speaker 2: can check it out on the Commandity.
Speaker 3: Goatch this interview.
Speaker 2: We're so good about it. Just give us a pre right.
Speaker 2: First of all, have you seen him?
Speaker 7: First of all, his energy, everything stores with energy. He
Speaker 7: was homely the story homeless living in Southeast DC. Like
Speaker 7: you said I was. I was bowing in it. When
Speaker 7: it comes to being the part of his fan mase,
Speaker 7: this is all I eat, sleeping, Listen, if you feel
Speaker 7: the intensity coming out for him, you know, I want
Speaker 7: to be in I want to be in the trenches
Speaker 7: with him, a dark alley.
Speaker 3: I won't, I won't camerong with me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because like Adam knows him from San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and then obviously the old coach for the Jets. I
Speaker 1: forget to say Old Brick was the interim coach. He
Speaker 1: knows Dan Quinn very well.
Speaker 2: Robert Sala knows.
Speaker 1: Dan really well, knows Adam really well. They coach the
Speaker 1: other so they know exactly who this is. And there's
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that like that personality, that energy,
Speaker 1: that competitive fire, that competitive toughness fits in.
Speaker 2: So well with what they've got here.
Speaker 1: So everyone I remember, I got a lot of questions
Speaker 1: on Instagram and social media about like why they bring
Speaker 1: him in, Like he's bad against the run.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they brought him in, but he's
Speaker 2: wired the right way to yes this last.
Speaker 1: And when I watch on film, he's got something to
Speaker 1: him that hasn't been tapped into yet. And I just
Speaker 1: look at what this coaching staff did last year. I
Speaker 1: look at what Daryl tapped out. I look what Ryan
Speaker 1: Kerrigan like, you can get it.
Speaker 7: Out of him first of all people x Y. We
Speaker 7: bring in fil last year for ten and a half six.
Speaker 2: So this is what I'd say to you, Tanne.
Speaker 1: This is the other thing is you get in some pieces, right,
Speaker 1: and you can't keep everybody, and you.
Speaker 2: Set a value for a player. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 2: crazy deep defensive line draft. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I think at twenty nine there's going to
Speaker 1: be a guy who can make a difference for you.
Speaker 3: And a sickond round and did Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Like maybe you're playing like, hey, we've got some really
Speaker 1: solid pieces where we signed Cleveland, Ferrell, resigned, Dietrich Wise,
Speaker 1: we bring in kin Law, who we don't really know
Speaker 1: at this point. There's some rumor circling that maybe he's
Speaker 1: going to play like an edge rusher type position, crush
Speaker 1: the pocket, and then all of a sudden, you just
Speaker 1: need one more because you got four right there, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying one more dynamic piece. So maybe you set
Speaker 1: a value at him, you exceeded the value, and like
Speaker 1: that's one of the things you did, Like with Jeremy
Speaker 1: Chin's a great example of this. It's a technique you say, hey,
Speaker 1: go test the market, we think your value is this
Speaker 1: yet more than that?
Speaker 2: Go for it?
Speaker 7: And what if we want to get younger at the musicition?
Speaker 7: So I think you one thing you love to match
Speaker 7: up if you want to really do something, you want
Speaker 7: to make sure your quarterback which we got that check,
Speaker 7: and your top pass rusher you want them to kind
Speaker 7: of be around.
Speaker 2: The same age.
Speaker 8: Free agency can get a little tricky for guys who
Speaker 8: are not really in tune with how things are done
Speaker 8: when it comes to like, I guess you can say
Speaker 8: in that room, in that war room, because you forget
Speaker 8: it's a draft, so you get caught up in the
Speaker 8: whole free we all do it because I'm sitting there, like,
Speaker 8: but then you think about, oh damn, you just said
Speaker 8: the draft got There's going to be more value out there,
Speaker 8: younger talent, you know what I mean, Guys that you
Speaker 8: can probably fill in too, So I can you know,
Speaker 8: I've heard a lot of people, you know from just
Speaker 8: listen to the radio talk about certain guys and some
Speaker 8: of the people who DM me in I'll just be
Speaker 8: I leave them crickets.
Speaker 6: I can respond to it.
Speaker 7: But you use free agency so you don't have to
Speaker 7: hel prison of doing the Dre. You use free agency
Speaker 7: so I can go into the draft saying I'm not
Speaker 7: a prison to no room.
Speaker 3: I just won't best play this.
Speaker 7: This is what we did, I feel because we weren't
Speaker 7: gonna find no Larry Mtunsel in this year's draft.
Speaker 3: We pinally gonna find out Deebo samdels in this year's dream.
Speaker 7: Like, so how I look at it is from what
Speaker 7: he got us set up as is truly we.
Speaker 3: Can go it there now and just cherry pick talent. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too.
Speaker 1: To keep in mind this is this is an interesting
Speaker 1: kind of something that people don't think about as much.
Speaker 1: Is like, when there's a good draft, this a certain position.
Speaker 1: So let's say defensive end, just as an example, more
Speaker 1: teams draft defensive lineman. That means they also cut.
Speaker 6: Veteran defensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in that second or third wave of free agency,
Speaker 1: which is post draft, Yeah, there's gonna be some good players, right,
Speaker 1: maybe more players that you're willing to spend a little
Speaker 1: bit more money on, right, Like, so there's multiple opportunities here. Again, Like,
Speaker 1: obviously we were bummed Dante's leaving because he had such
Speaker 1: a great year last year for us, But there's other
Speaker 1: opportunities to kind of fill those with a younger, maybe
Speaker 1: more talented piece, maybe a piece that fits your culture
Speaker 1: for a longer window than a year. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's all. And then the other thing too that
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about is the trade value. Right obviously
Speaker 1: Trey Henderson as an example, is still available, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so again I've heard that they're
Speaker 1: asking crazy price.
Speaker 3: The price tags.
Speaker 8: They definitely don't need some money now because this is
Speaker 8: gayly a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Well when you give away two hundred and fifty meal
Speaker 3: in the one room.
Speaker 7: But now, I just think, as long as time goes pass,
Speaker 7: this is the list they gonna get for trading. And
Speaker 7: so at one point they have to be realistic on
Speaker 7: his trade value. And when he eat a player is unhappy,
Speaker 7: I eat a player is being basically here a hostage
Speaker 7: and not gonna get paid. Like hundreds of years, your
Speaker 7: trade value goes down, it doesn't get bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So again, there's a lot of opportunities to replace
Speaker 1: some of those pieces. But I do think that the
Speaker 1: guys they brought into Fred's initial point are guys that
Speaker 1: are good, competitive, tough football players.
Speaker 2: On the defensive line. Let's talk about the secondary real quick.
Speaker 1: So these are guys we haven't talked about a ton
Speaker 1: of Will Harris's safety was in New Orleans last year.
Speaker 1: I think he was drafted to Detroit if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: And then Jonathan Jones cornerback from the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: little nethers size guys like five nine, like one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety pounds. Yeah, but ran a four to three
Speaker 1: at the combine lightning quick. Let's talk about how these
Speaker 1: guys fit in here. I think Will Harris is maybe
Speaker 1: the most interesting because, like we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: bringing back Jeremy Chin and they let him walk. I
Speaker 1: think he is a very good football.
Speaker 6: For remind me.
Speaker 8: As soon as I saw what we was getting, I'm like,
Speaker 8: oh man, yeah, we just we just actually lost one
Speaker 8: and gained one.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 8: I mean Will Harris And I watched a little bit
Speaker 8: of him last year, didn't even I didn't know what
Speaker 8: I was paying attention to.
Speaker 6: Saw flashes of him. Yeah, but he's violent.
Speaker 8: And when you're talking about how we how we picking
Speaker 8: these guys and what we wanted to do, yeah, you know,
Speaker 8: coach said it. Well, I think I still go back
Speaker 8: to that first interview with coach with you know how
Speaker 8: he spoke about you know, I decordingly spoke about the
Speaker 8: type of guys he wanted to bring in here and
Speaker 8: what he want them to show up to the party with.
Speaker 8: And man, I saw this dude make a couple of
Speaker 8: open field tackles and just not even that, just going
Speaker 8: down there, digging out, you know, lining.
Speaker 6: And getting to the getting to the bay energy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's going to show up at your front door
Speaker 8: and he won't he won't smoke.
Speaker 7: He put the money in the bag. He that type
Speaker 7: of dude like he can do pretty much anything. You
Speaker 7: asked him to play any any safe position you actually
Speaker 7: moved down and the knickel could play the nickel position,
Speaker 7: so he so he can he can basically add to
Speaker 7: anything or fill in any gap you got.
Speaker 3: But just go turn on the tape against US last year.
Speaker 7: If you want to know what you're getting in this player,
Speaker 7: just go turn on the tape against US and Jonathan Jones.
Speaker 7: What you're getting is one the constant professional. You getting
Speaker 7: a guy that's been there, done that, two time Super
Speaker 7: Bowl winner. You getting a guy that's the question is
Speaker 7: do you move him inside or do you move Mickey
Speaker 7: Center still inside.
Speaker 2: What they do and again, like I think you also resigned.
Speaker 2: It's great he can move inside.
Speaker 6: We got we just got, we just got we got deep.
Speaker 6: I got depth? Is there? Now you can? Now you can?
Speaker 6: Now you have more bodies at that corner bay.
Speaker 8: We were talking about we need corners, and to me,
Speaker 8: I feel like that just solidified us.
Speaker 6: Our room getting a lot more stronger, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's it's a great opportunity to provide some flexibility,
Speaker 1: some depth. And I do think that Jonathan Jones can
Speaker 1: play the nickel, you can play outside in the pinch.
Speaker 1: And so I think about the guy that he's coming
Speaker 1: in for. It's like Benjamin Saint Juice or Davis from
Speaker 1: my year, and I think unequivocally he's great. He's an upgrade.
Speaker 1: That's another knock on those guys. He's just a more established.
Speaker 7: Say well season consistent, you know, like he's just been there,
Speaker 7: done it like some stuff. When this is not hate
Speaker 7: like sometimes you just I'm just reporting the news. I
Speaker 7: don't make the news. I just report the news. And
Speaker 7: right now Saint Juice play for the Chargers. I'm glad
Speaker 7: you reunited with your college coach. You know, he played
Speaker 7: for Harball, so everybody wins in this thing. But hey,
Speaker 7: come on in and welcome home. Jonathan Jones to Saint Juice.
Speaker 7: How do you some Beagles?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's a he's a heck of
Speaker 1: a And I think that's the thing, as Tenny you
Speaker 1: said it.
Speaker 2: Will Harris really competitive, high energy, high energy. I think
Speaker 2: he adds a little bit. Actually, I love Jeremy Chip, but.
Speaker 3: I think he's on the cover side. He most definitely does.
Speaker 2: I think Will Harris adds a little bit of value
Speaker 2: there too.
Speaker 1: And you get a guy like Jonathan Jones with the experience,
Speaker 1: the leadership, the ability to kind of mentor a room.
Speaker 1: I think that's always that's pretty fantastic. So you know,
Speaker 1: those are kind of the main defensive additions. And it
Speaker 1: does and people like, oh, there's no big name in
Speaker 1: there outside of Kenlong maybe, but I think all these
Speaker 1: guys are really good pros and they raise the floor.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot of value in
Speaker 1: saying this is the floor and then in the draft,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can add a little bit of
Speaker 1: accent and.
Speaker 7: It's a flavor to it, Like right now, this is
Speaker 7: the meeting to bree it right. Yeah, when we go
Speaker 7: into the draft, them at the top is lid is
Speaker 7: tomato mayo mustard, like make.
Speaker 3: The sandwich taste good.
Speaker 7: And that's why you don't want to have to go
Speaker 7: in there and say we got to leave out of
Speaker 7: here with the left tackle. And we'll leave out of
Speaker 7: here with the left tack. Now you're going to force
Speaker 7: your way to draft to somebody you probably shouldn't need
Speaker 7: to draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I guess, yeah, let's get into the
Speaker 1: next segment here, So risk it for the biscuit. Adam
Speaker 1: Peters keep cooking, keeps cooking. And this segment is always
Speaker 1: presented by marsh mc lennon agency. You're a partner in
Speaker 1: risk and people's strategies. And so we alluded to this already.
Speaker 1: And one thing we didn't talk about was the laramie
Speaker 1: tunsil trade. Mm and man, like you know, producer Jason,
Speaker 1: he sent me like a little gift. And it's like
Speaker 1: there's no good left tackles left on the market, you know,
Speaker 1: because Ronnie Stanley resigned the kid in Jacksonville, resigned the
Speaker 1: kid in La Leric Jackson He resigned to La So
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there aren't a good left tackles, like
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And that's something that really
Speaker 1: need to happen. Then Adam Peters like, hold my.
Speaker 2: Beer, works out this straighter.
Speaker 1: And this is like the thing you were talking about
Speaker 1: at the beginning, Like it's the free agency is bad.
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do about it? Yeah, you
Speaker 2: still got to make the team better.
Speaker 7: He literally went and looked at out thirty two teams
Speaker 7: and said who is in camp? Hell one team the
Speaker 7: forty nine. I take Debo, another team the tixas I
Speaker 7: take Larry my Tons. He looking at situational football. He's
Speaker 7: looking at he looking at it bigger. He looking at
Speaker 7: the fine print where other people don't see. These people
Speaker 7: need to make a move. He's anticipating them. I got
Speaker 7: to either make this move now, I'm gonna pay for
Speaker 7: it later. And I think he looks at teams that's
Speaker 7: under the rest and got to have cap problem. So
Speaker 7: that's deeper than everybody would because if you asked me
Speaker 7: two weeks ago, could we trade for Tomson just just
Speaker 7: after those and I'd have been like, we could, but
Speaker 7: they not us.
Speaker 6: And I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 8: I was gonna ask you little because I think you
Speaker 8: want those guys that kind of probably can dive a
Speaker 8: little deeper into what what conversation comes up with those
Speaker 8: gms to get a guy like Tumson like, especially when
Speaker 8: you don't hear it. You know, sometime you hear the
Speaker 8: rumblings of debo might get get traded. We didn't hear
Speaker 8: nothing about Tonson and this coming off of last year,
Speaker 8: the only thing that he had hanging over was those penalties,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? So what kind of conversation
Speaker 8: you think came up with those guys to get up
Speaker 8: get him over here with us?
Speaker 1: So I think the one thing that people need to
Speaker 1: understand is that like there's everyone's got a price, yeah right,
Speaker 1: And I think what Fred like pointed out there is
Speaker 1: like I need to find the right team. And so
Speaker 1: if there's a piece that I want with the Houston Texans,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him be like, hey, what would it
Speaker 1: take to move Laramie? And they probably say, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a first round pick.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We say, oh, we'll came back, yeah, go back and
Speaker 2: say how about this? Yeah? They said, well, but about this?
Speaker 1: And then it's it starts off as we're not going
Speaker 1: to move them, and then eventually they.
Speaker 2: Get we're having a conversation.
Speaker 1: We realized that they like, they realized they wanted to happen.
Speaker 1: They realize they can offload an asset right and we
Speaker 1: have some cap room so that they can extend people
Speaker 1: and get ready for C. J.
Speaker 2: Stroud or we'll have it.
Speaker 3: It's the very stingly deal. They just got signed for
Speaker 3: ninety million dollars because of this.
Speaker 7: It's because of this, because of the Larry Tunsil trade,
Speaker 7: so they had to free that money. They couldn't And
Speaker 7: this this is why I say Adam Peter's on another
Speaker 7: level because he's anticipating they got to RESTIDN Stingley. They
Speaker 7: can't only do that if they free some cap room.
Speaker 7: Let me go help them.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: That's the special part of it that a lot of
Speaker 8: folks don't probably think about that. There's guys that's so
Speaker 8: special what they do, especially when it comes to just
Speaker 8: you know, picking players. You're not sitting there waiting for
Speaker 8: a guy to say, okay, it's a potential trade. You know,
Speaker 8: the shopping you're basically looking at everybody's you know, roster
Speaker 8: saying well, I'm gonna go start to pay this guy.
Speaker 8: They cap on you here, so that's it. We can
Speaker 8: get them the budget off of this guy. You know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, It takes a skill for you to
Speaker 8: have that.
Speaker 7: The next time I would look at is the New
Speaker 7: York Jets. They just cut see J.
Speaker 2: Mosley.
Speaker 6: They cut see J.
Speaker 7: Mosley because they got the sign south cutting. So I'll
Speaker 7: be looking on the Roston see who I like, they
Speaker 7: either needs to be paid I already got paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing too, is like people
Speaker 1: make these people think it's like, oh, just because in
Speaker 1: the news you hear that so and so's available for trading.
Speaker 2: I know you guys don't think it.
Speaker 8: Don't even be about that. I mean, that'd be smoke. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that'd be the agent still.
Speaker 1: But my point is that, like you're these calls happen
Speaker 1: almost all the time time, Like do you remember when
Speaker 1: we're the forty nine ers trader for Jim Agaroppolo?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Remember that that was like in twenty seventeen. They initially
Speaker 1: called about Tom Brady. You know what I'm saying, would
Speaker 1: you be willing to trade him and how much would
Speaker 1: it take? Yeah, and they say no, but you call
Speaker 1: back and they say, well, we are willing to do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, they call all
Speaker 1: the time. Because Tom Brady's getting old. There's a chancell
Speaker 1: move Aaron all these guys, right, everyone's got a price
Speaker 1: and they're gonna and especially for like an older asset
Speaker 1: like Mike Evans. I'm sure they field trade talks with
Speaker 1: him all the time, but they want to keep him.
Speaker 2: So it's just something happens. And I think it's a.
Speaker 1: Testament to Adam Peters and the whole front office really,
Speaker 1: you know, Lance Newmark, all those guys up there, that
Speaker 1: they're able to kind of identify these decisions and then
Speaker 1: get a package that like works. Let's just review the
Speaker 1: trade details real quick. So Washington receives Tunsil and a
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four fourth round pick. Houston receives a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five third round pick. Ye I misread that. So
Speaker 1: it's a twenty twenty five fourth round pick right the
Speaker 1: upcoming draft, yep. And then He's from receives a twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five third round pick, a twenty twenty five seventh
Speaker 1: round pick, a twenty twenty six second round pick and
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six fourth round pick. And so what
Speaker 1: this This shows me a couple of things. One that's
Speaker 1: really good trade value for twenty twenty five amazing trade value.
Speaker 1: So basically you're getting Laramie Tunsol for what amounts to
Speaker 1: a third round pick. Yea, because you're getting a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick back.
Speaker 3: Right, swam basically a pick swat.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a why and I would take
Speaker 1: that every single time. I also think you mortgage from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six draft capital. And this is just me,
Speaker 1: just a guy kind of on the couch observing it.
Speaker 1: And you can go higher with your second round pick,
Speaker 1: you can go higher with your fourth round pick because
Speaker 1: we need draft assets this year.
Speaker 2: Ye And then next year we're going.
Speaker 6: To always do that. You know, next year you can
Speaker 6: always kind of get more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get we're gonna get compicks, we're gonna leave,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get opportunities to kind of the people are
Speaker 1: gonna sign up their places, right. And so I look
Speaker 1: at this and I say to myself, that's smart because
Speaker 1: we know we needed five six picks this year, right
Speaker 1: now to make this roster better, put the tomatoes and
Speaker 1: the lettuce on it, and then next year we can
Speaker 1: problem solve that with trades of our own complex. Guys
Speaker 1: leaving that are going to resign other places, because as
Speaker 1: we get better, that's gonna happen more often.
Speaker 2: Coaches are gonna leave, right.
Speaker 1: We get conflicts for that too, so we'll be able
Speaker 1: to recuperate some of that draft capital.
Speaker 7: And you're not going to find a pro bowld left tackle.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I love Will Campbell one of the best
Speaker 7: alignment in his draft.
Speaker 3: It ain't no guaranteed he a pro bowler.
Speaker 2: There's no I mean, there's not even guarante's gonna pay tackle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they saying that the kangaroo arms and his
Speaker 3: might move him to guard. So all I'm saying is
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 7: I love draft capital, I love young young players, but
Speaker 7: a guarantee commodity it left tackle. Like, they don't trade
Speaker 7: left tackles and left tackles don't usually.
Speaker 2: Hit free agency.
Speaker 7: So this is the football guys shining on us for
Speaker 7: what happened with Trent Wick. Right, Let's be honest, them saying,
Speaker 7: you know what, since y'all gave for the nine Ers
Speaker 7: Trent for barely nothing, and he's been a super All
Speaker 7: Pro since he got there. Here go Larry M. Tounson
Speaker 7: to make sure Jedi five stays up.
Speaker 8: I want I wonder how that and I know we
Speaker 8: ain't worried about them and what they got going on,
Speaker 8: but I want to do that, do that effect what
Speaker 8: they have in their young quarterback and just c J
Speaker 8: scrap just knowing what he how much potential he showed
Speaker 8: the first year. Yeah, and then last year was off year,
Speaker 8: but it was it wasn't It wasn't his fault. I
Speaker 8: guess you can say, or it may have been as
Speaker 8: for a little bit they say he held on the
Speaker 8: ball a little bit more he had.
Speaker 7: They'll try to replace the tackle, maybe draft.
Speaker 1: The guy they're gonna be always interested just Tightus Howard
Speaker 1: their right tackle to the left tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then they had a rookie second round pick this year
Speaker 1: that played a lot for him. And so the one
Speaker 1: thing this is something that fans maybe don't understand, but
Speaker 1: it's important to understand this. Your offensive line coach is
Speaker 1: your third coordinator, fourth coordinator, right, Yeah, and when the
Speaker 1: offensive line struggles that it's struggled in Houston.
Speaker 2: Last year, that guy the OC.
Speaker 1: They're not doing a good job insulating that group, having
Speaker 1: a protection plan. Like that's really what that is about
Speaker 1: to me, because they're not passing off stunts. They're not
Speaker 1: handling targets well like in protection and that was more
Speaker 1: of the issue. You can't pass off a simple et stunt.
Speaker 1: And it's week ten, like.
Speaker 2: This coach, something's wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, this coach and so like, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna laraim, he's gonna get some heat from that, like
Speaker 1: as him being responsible for that, and people are worried
Speaker 1: about TJ Straut. I think you get a better coach
Speaker 1: in there, clean up the offensive plan a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I think you're in a much better spot. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, Laramie Tunsseel, I think, like you said, Redd,
Speaker 1: I was trying to think about to see that. I
Speaker 1: think he's a top five offensive lineman still in the NFL,
Speaker 1: no doubt, specifically tackle. So I mean you go Trent,
Speaker 1: you go Wurfs, you go Johnson, you go Mylatta, and
Speaker 1: you go the kid up in Detroit, what's his name,
Speaker 1: the right tackle.
Speaker 3: Uh Peanuts?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sool, And then I think you're right there, So six,
Speaker 1: I think that's Tunsle. And to get a guy like that,
Speaker 1: which teams don't give up, there's a couple of things
Speaker 1: teams don't give up in free in free agency, good
Speaker 1: head rushers, good tackles.
Speaker 2: Good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Like it's just never gonna happen, So you gotta find
Speaker 1: different ways of getting it. Obviously, the draft is one way,
Speaker 1: and like Fred said, the draft this year with offensive
Speaker 1: lines a little bit mixed, especially at twenty nine, So.
Speaker 2: Let's ensure that we take care of that resource.
Speaker 1: Let's just bump Brandon Coleman wherever he's gotta go, and
Speaker 1: we got the best starting five on the field.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, it just seems like.
Speaker 7: In front of Piecks that we gave Listen, I wouldn't
Speaker 7: have been mad if we gave up a first.
Speaker 3: I still think he exceeded the value. But to keep
Speaker 3: that though, no, no, no, that is what I'm saying
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 7: To keep your first while getting Laramie Tossel and Deebo
Speaker 7: Samuels in the same free agent period in Trey period,
Speaker 7: that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And you got anything say about Lear, I mean this
Speaker 1: is the thing that you're looking for right with a
Speaker 1: young quarterback offensive lineman. Let's get that thing all settled
Speaker 1: up and be ready to rock Hi.
Speaker 7: Around un coffee at the tack. Listen, he's a big dude, man,
Speaker 7: he's a big dude. He's a big old man.
Speaker 1: And I played with him when I was in Houston.
Speaker 1: So twenty nineteen we shared a locker or lockers right
Speaker 1: next to mine. I will say, a very nice person.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed my.
Speaker 6: Time you least year nineteen twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Damn, And yeah, young, my back isn't thrown out.
Speaker 3: I've been saying I can't wait till you on the
Speaker 3: ground the Wigan.
Speaker 8: And you're just like I told you, you ain't gonna be.
Speaker 8: You ain't gonna get the same as him. Stuff habits
Speaker 8: to town free. That's his payback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let's talk about so in addition to
Speaker 1: the Laramie thing, which is absolutely enormous, we got obviously,
Speaker 1: we talked about the defensive kind of resurgence renaissance, how
Speaker 1: that places you in a good position for the draft.
Speaker 1: We also re signed a lot of our own pieces,
Speaker 1: and I think this is also important to Fred's initial
Speaker 1: point you want to make sure the scaffolding is there
Speaker 1: from a free agency standpoint, right, and you also want
Speaker 1: to make.
Speaker 2: Sure you got some depth. So let's talk through some stuff.
Speaker 1: Obviously, we got Bobby Wagner back, Marcus Marioder, and zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: and let's talk about those three guys real quick, because
Speaker 1: I really think those guys are important for turiass one
Speaker 1: his leadership.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Two is hell what they do for.
Speaker 6: Jadon and Daniels, Yeah, a whole lot.
Speaker 7: I been say, Bobby literally teaching him how to see
Speaker 7: through defenses at practice. You might have wear a card
Speaker 7: Marcus Mariota Yoda himself because.
Speaker 3: He's been in there.
Speaker 7: He's been in his ear since he got here getting
Speaker 7: the young Jedi right. And zach Ertz has been his
Speaker 7: emergency blanket. So you're right, these people have layered. And
Speaker 7: don't forget about the fourth win in there. He not
Speaker 7: only gave up his number for him, but oh yeah, no,
Speaker 7: trust way, baby, you know what I'm talking about, missed Way,
Speaker 7: all right? So yeah, most definitely they helped Jay the
Speaker 7: Jedi five get to where he's at.
Speaker 8: I was listening to some folks talk talk about the
Speaker 8: other day, like how important it is to bring in
Speaker 8: veteran leadership and what some guy's role is beyond the
Speaker 8: playing field. And the first person name popped up in
Speaker 8: my head was Bobby Wait just knowing that you know,
Speaker 8: not only we wash them in the middle of games,
Speaker 8: getting guys in position like I don't know when the
Speaker 8: last time we saw that happening London with us, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, And it's just like it was.
Speaker 8: It was one of those situations where it talk about
Speaker 8: a nause him how bad we were when it comes
Speaker 8: to stopping the run, but the defense as a whole wasn't.
Speaker 6: Bad, feel me.
Speaker 8: So I look at his leadership at the linebacker position
Speaker 8: for the defense, but not only for the defense in
Speaker 8: the big team meeting room as a whole, being that guy,
Speaker 8: being that voice, being the person that a young Jedi
Speaker 8: five can go to and talk to. You saw him
Speaker 8: at those basketball games, him him basically teaching him how
Speaker 8: to be a pro.
Speaker 6: So, oh man, his you can give him every year
Speaker 6: he said he wanted to come back.
Speaker 8: I'm signing them because I understand that it's more value
Speaker 8: than just what he brings on the field, and then
Speaker 8: from them to go out there and get a hundred
Speaker 8: some tackles plus that just shows you what kind of
Speaker 8: person he is and players. So I think, man, out
Speaker 8: of all these guys, I know we're going to get
Speaker 8: to all these guys, but when not the first time
Speaker 8: I heard that conversation about the veteran leadership and what
Speaker 8: role they played, Bobby Wagoner stood out man, and just
Speaker 8: seeing it live and in person in it was a joy.
Speaker 2: To watch Antenna. You were kind of that guy for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: And did you have anybody in your career that you
Speaker 1: were like this guy kind of did what Bobby did
Speaker 1: for the team, you know, because if those guys are
Speaker 1: like I think about Fletch for me, I think about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fletcher. Fletcher was that for us.
Speaker 8: Oh you know it's crazy because when I was in
Speaker 8: New York, I watched guys like Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin
Speaker 8: is the reason why while I was able to play
Speaker 8: fourteen years, I sit on that that table with him
Speaker 8: in the training room. One year he didn't practice the
Speaker 8: whole entire year and let the league in Russia. I
Speaker 8: watched this guy have two ankle springs, two high ankle springs,
Speaker 8: and he got them treated every day. And he and
Speaker 8: he set there with a with a pad and a
Speaker 8: bible and he would read his Bible and he was
Speaker 8: writing notes. I'm sitting there like so, you know, and
Speaker 8: he just picking my brain on picking his brain. I'm
Speaker 8: dealing with something soft, soft tissue. I think at the
Speaker 8: time I had either ribs or soft tissue. But he's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: tann it, you got to pay the play. He had
Speaker 8: a real smooth It was funny because I remember the
Speaker 8: guys in the locker room always you know, joke with him.
Speaker 6: Uh, they be like, man, yeah, I went to Curtis
Speaker 6: house man.
Speaker 8: I went to the Curtis house man and his butler
Speaker 8: came to the door and its like, Curtis will be
Speaker 8: with you in a minute. He's like, and he was
Speaker 8: like it was almost like, you know, I heard some
Speaker 8: maxwell playing in the background.
Speaker 6: He's a small brother, Bro, He's a smooth, good looking brother, Paul.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: So it's just like one of those situations, man, So
Speaker 8: when you watching them and I'm a young pup, I'm
Speaker 8: sitting there like, bro, who is pretty well you.
Speaker 6: Know what I mean?
Speaker 8: The boy, the boy got curls in his head, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, and this thing slick, but he
Speaker 8: get out there and he run that. You say that
Speaker 8: Taylor todaytor So, but no, but he was one of
Speaker 8: those guy him.
Speaker 6: Marvin Jones and mo Lewis. We had a bunch of them.
Speaker 8: You know who else I had on the damn Vincent
Speaker 8: played play safety for Usan can't think of his name
Speaker 8: right now to save my life. But all those guys
Speaker 8: at actually kind of helped mold a young Tanner. So
Speaker 8: when when by the time I learned it and came
Speaker 8: over here, I was ready. I said, man, this team
Speaker 8: was kind of young. This team was everywhere it was guys.
Speaker 8: I walked out to get ice one day, guys was
Speaker 8: running down the hallway to my telling you.
Speaker 3: Curfew.
Speaker 6: I'm like this what they doing over you? Jumping and everything,
Speaker 6: dude was wild.
Speaker 8: But I came from New York where everything was kind
Speaker 8: of police by the players because they and we didn't
Speaker 8: have to worry about the coaches talking and telling us
Speaker 8: to be in at a certain time.
Speaker 6: Those guys are gonna make sure you was in there.
Speaker 8: So so when I got here, man, and then being
Speaker 8: just me myself personally, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 8: think I was kind of brought up that way like.
Speaker 6: I always did by my business.
Speaker 8: You know, I never want to kind of do nothing
Speaker 8: that's gonna hurt, you know what puts the food on
Speaker 8: the table from me and mins you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: And so when I got here it was easy for me.
Speaker 8: By the time I became that guy, it was easy
Speaker 8: for me to kind of leave. I let differently. You know,
Speaker 8: I was a guy that it was more so by example.
Speaker 8: If I need to say something, I would say something.
Speaker 8: But it was very seldom I did that because it
Speaker 8: was other guys, like you said, like a fletch er.
Speaker 8: You know, we had other guys that would speak out.
Speaker 8: But you know, if something need to be said, I
Speaker 8: give my insight. I give my two cents, but I'm
Speaker 8: gonna show you on the field. And I think a
Speaker 8: lot of the players in my room, the receiver room
Speaker 8: was able to watch me just go to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you man? I watching watching how you're living?
Speaker 3: Now listen to me?
Speaker 6: He wanted listening.
Speaker 5: He wanted listening from landing in the garage, laying on
Speaker 5: the floor at the grocery.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying.
Speaker 7: When I first got here, we was the old folks
Speaker 7: home of Ashburg like this team was very old, like
Speaker 7: we brought to you.
Speaker 3: So I had Darryl Green in his eighteenth year, nineteenth year,
Speaker 3: and I remember.
Speaker 7: Being in odd when I worked in my dB room
Speaker 7: because I got d I got champed, I got Daryl Green,
Speaker 7: and I'm sitting next to Darrel that I lock him.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, how do you how do you start.
Speaker 7: Eighteen years at cornerback in a row? He was like, smooth,
Speaker 7: what do you know my backup name? I looked around
Speaker 7: in the locker room and I'm like, nah, now that
Speaker 7: I think about it, so nah, I never know who
Speaker 7: your backup was.
Speaker 3: He like me needed because I don't never let him play.
Speaker 7: Now he said, the best ability is availability, and availability
Speaker 7: leads to accountability. Accountability needs to leads to you having
Speaker 7: the ability to pay your bills, so you have to
Speaker 7: understand that you cannot have one without the other. Then
Speaker 7: I had the Bruce Smiths of the world. I literally
Speaker 7: like offense, I had big Bell Cow, big Country. I
Speaker 7: had Stephen Davis over there like I had guys that
Speaker 7: I can pretty much actually Keith Mitchell in the linebacker room.
Speaker 3: I had guys everywhere.
Speaker 6: On this team.
Speaker 8: You see how bad my memory of Victor Green. Victor
Speaker 8: ain't my bad victorm man. He was a good guy
Speaker 8: too that I watched my rookie season. Man, he showed
Speaker 8: me a lot.
Speaker 3: So now they're just your c t.
Speaker 2: Get me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think Bobby, I think Marcus An
Speaker 1: exactly think trust are all guys that do that. I
Speaker 1: think those tinnings are so important to get those guys back.
Speaker 1: And then you talk about guys that are gonna have
Speaker 1: probably significant roles on this team. And I was looking
Speaker 1: at John Bates and Noah Brown are guys motel right,
Speaker 1: And we talked about the importance of having a block
Speaker 1: and wire in the NFL.
Speaker 7: Now he I told you, Bates should send you a
Speaker 7: Christmas present and a thank you letter because bas just
Speaker 7: got paid for being a block and tight end in
Speaker 7: this league in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6: And you, my friend, that guy, you are the only
Speaker 6: thing I can say about Baits. He on what timble
Speaker 6: is on the field. That boy had screws screwing.
Speaker 3: At the bottom of that shooting.
Speaker 9: Hey, I let that lookan one day in the film
Speaker 9: letting Up Joking Boy, like said six, Al's living in
Speaker 9: his ship.
Speaker 7: Budd Listen, jump base owe you a thanks of gratitude.
Speaker 7: You pay a way for guys like this, But I
Speaker 7: can't say this as a blocker tight end, he could
Speaker 7: be the best in the league.
Speaker 3: When guys go checking to base motel, they.
Speaker 7: Don't leave you check out, they don't check out because
Speaker 7: this guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3: And Noah Brown got everything he was.
Speaker 8: Still and for us to give him back, man, I
Speaker 8: was like, damn, they just that's just it's a little destiny,
Speaker 8: And damn that was good because you know, like I
Speaker 8: loved everything about what he brought to the teams. Besides
Speaker 8: Noah making those clutch catchers on third down across the
Speaker 8: middle wind, I don't know how people weren't covering them
Speaker 8: because I'm like, bro, we keep going through them. He
Speaker 8: was getting the most penalties than anybody when they come
Speaker 8: to at least one game every week. They was they
Speaker 8: was you know, he was getting the pass interference. So
Speaker 8: I'm I'm I thought the world about bringing him back
Speaker 8: and just watching him go down last year.
Speaker 6: We didn't even know he was hurt when he went down,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Serious injuries, So like I mean, unfortunate for him because
Speaker 1: I think no thing gets paid because of it. But man,
Speaker 1: he's a good football player.
Speaker 2: He's physically tough, block blocking, great position and what they
Speaker 2: needed the position. That's the other thing too, Like all
Speaker 2: these guys are I'm gonna say, commanders, right, what do
Speaker 2: you say, core commanders?
Speaker 3: Core commanders?
Speaker 1: Yeah, core commanders, Like that's what they are. And I think,
Speaker 1: like Noah, after watching him, like just how it's It's
Speaker 1: in the tape, man, you watch his tape.
Speaker 2: That's how he is.
Speaker 1: So it's great to get him back and then we
Speaker 1: get some nice depth pieces on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the football. Noig Monogany, I think is a huge resigning
Speaker 1: kind of quiet sneakily there. And then Sheldon Day and
Speaker 1: Leland Ferrell all coming back.
Speaker 7: Sheldon Day every time they got on their feet, it
Speaker 7: was shald In today, right because he played some football.
Speaker 6: So how would you do it? That number one gotta
Speaker 6: come up?
Speaker 7: Then he gonna they're gonna be a negotiation.
Speaker 2: You gotta be right, just resigned him. So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure you're give him back the same number.
Speaker 3: I've been saying.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I don't know because because the trade for Debo I
Speaker 7: think went through before we resigned anything.
Speaker 8: He ain't had a numberstand No, you ain't on the roster,
Speaker 8: roster money, roster, Nah, coche.
Speaker 6: We can't do it like that.
Speaker 7: If I were debo time he was showing up, I
Speaker 7: be hey, I'm demo samuels.
Speaker 3: On. It was nothing you're gonna wear next year. I
Speaker 3: hear two opens in the army. I can put that
Speaker 3: too off, he.
Speaker 6: Put it to.
Speaker 8: But I think you coach Messon's pill because that's that's
Speaker 8: one of them days where you know, that's the hitting.
Speaker 3: Money that they on the count for.
Speaker 7: No, I'm kind of hot right now because I didn't
Speaker 7: have great negotiation like that was the Bible gonna because
Speaker 7: I ain't coming in no.
Speaker 6: Shorter than fifty thousand, what I'm saying, at.
Speaker 2: Least for that, and he was playing better than nineteen
Speaker 2: though I don't.
Speaker 3: Got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6: He wants ye don't want one. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: So you right? Is it?
Speaker 7: It could come up in a couple of times, like
Speaker 7: it's a couple of players, like numbers might come up
Speaker 7: in and be a thing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, I'm really happy to know what's back.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job playing Nicol obviously
Speaker 1: like up and down, but I thought, you know, played physically,
Speaker 1: played great and coverage.
Speaker 2: And was a really nice fine and he was an asset.
Speaker 1: And when you add Jonathan Jones to that secondary group
Speaker 1: with a lot more and Mike Sanders.
Speaker 7: Peeping down to the right slot, slotting everybody into the
Speaker 7: right slot between the championship roster and a good rosta
Speaker 7: and the championship roster, everybody slotted correctly.
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Cleveland Ferrell kind
Speaker 1: of the same thing, like him and Dietrich wise are
Speaker 1: probably going to be competing for snaps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want Cleveland playing a tonguecause of the
Speaker 2: injury history there. He's got that bump knee.
Speaker 1: But good player, solid player, and solid player. And then
Speaker 1: obviously you mentioned Sheldon Day and the depth that he provides.
Speaker 1: So it's great having those guys. And then the offensive
Speaker 1: sw of the football. We got Jerry mcnichos back who
Speaker 1: I am so excited about, kJ Osborne, Michael Dieter and
Speaker 1: Trent Scott, and that kind of rounds out the dump.
Speaker 7: Keep forgetting Tris Scott caught the first Testdown. Yeah, from
Speaker 7: old Jedi five. That's gonna be a trivia five years
Speaker 7: from now that everybody gets wrong, no doubt. Who cut
Speaker 7: the Terry McCord who caught the first testdowns, Jane day
Speaker 7: Teer McLain, Noah Brown gonna be on that list. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and being they gonna see the word Trent and Scott,
Speaker 7: No Pikey, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: That's awesome man.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean Jeremy McNichols talk about another
Speaker 1: guy that maybe just get enough credit for the attitude
Speaker 1: that he brings in the effort, the physical play style.
Speaker 1: And good for him too, man, Like I remember when
Speaker 1: I was with him in San Francisco, like he was
Speaker 1: you'd just been traded.
Speaker 2: From Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: Like just keep forgetting how young you are?
Speaker 2: I'm young, right?
Speaker 3: Could you play with some of these guys and they're
Speaker 3: just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Yeah, But it's crazy for me because I
Speaker 1: knew him when he was a rookie and that was
Speaker 1: in You're like nine, Yeah, so you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: time goes goes. It's obviously Trent Scott for that offensive
Speaker 1: line back death huge show. Really just I think a
Speaker 1: really tremendous job by out of here in the front office.
Speaker 2: In free agency, feeling out the roster, man, filling out
Speaker 2: the roster.
Speaker 1: Re signed everybody man, And you know, it feels like
Speaker 1: they've kind of positioned themselves both of the drafts, both
Speaker 1: of that third round for agency.
Speaker 3: And if I can say anything about this group that
Speaker 3: they bringing in, just.
Speaker 7: Attitude, like they all visual attitude, guys like I'm fining
Speaker 7: and flick we upon you attitude.
Speaker 3: They brought an attitude.
Speaker 8: I mean, they're gonna go out there and get the
Speaker 8: guys that fit what they're doing. So that's another thing
Speaker 8: too that stands out to me. We've been here, man,
Speaker 8: we was bringing guys in that we was like, so
Speaker 8: what are you gonna do for us? I mean, guys
Speaker 8: didn't even fit the skin.
Speaker 6: Didn't even fit the skin. You know, it's a.
Speaker 8: Joy's why I say, Man, you don't understand how being
Speaker 8: able to sit back and watch it now and see
Speaker 8: somebody do it right, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 8: you really know, like a lot of us don't really
Speaker 8: dive that deep into what's going on outside of what
Speaker 8: we do.
Speaker 6: And that was me care less about.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm talking about this the other guys in
Speaker 8: the building, who's doing something outside of what I have
Speaker 8: to do my job. I'm pretty sure you you got
Speaker 8: one of the mind. You thinking about the damn cook.
Speaker 6: Made you bother everybody and anybody. But I personally came
Speaker 6: here and worked and went home. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I came to work.
Speaker 6: I came with my bearing.
Speaker 8: Shoes on, my loan Jordan Jersey shorts and a hoodie,
Speaker 8: and I was in and out and do rag on.
Speaker 6: That's how it came to work.
Speaker 8: You know, you you play with me, But I never
Speaker 8: thought about what it took for those guys to go
Speaker 8: in there and bring the guy to figure out the
Speaker 8: saw how many guys he brought in, And you be
Speaker 8: wondering why, Like god, we just playing a hundred million
Speaker 8: don't fit our defense, you.
Speaker 6: Know what I mean? Like I used to sit there
Speaker 6: and ask myself.
Speaker 7: Well, I ain't gonna beild a defense around if you're
Speaker 7: paying we brought him in for if he on the field.
Speaker 8: So now seeing the moves being made the first couple
Speaker 8: of years of having a real GM here, man, it's
Speaker 8: just it just shows you, man, like this is why
Speaker 8: the other teams are successful. This is why the Robins
Speaker 8: been where they've been at for years. They had somebody
Speaker 8: that position that was able to just say, this is
Speaker 8: what I do. I know how to go out there
Speaker 8: and pick the talent, and you guys got to coach
Speaker 8: them up.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to end the show. Tanner,
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