1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we got 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Grandpa Peter's cooking man. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: It is so good. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: We talked about all the new faces coming in the 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: old faces. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: That are coming back. 7 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: You did such a good job identifying who we are 8 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: what we need to be as commanders. 9 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: And then did Fred take a nap in the parking lot? 10 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: My back went out, his back went out? Is that 11 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: true story? It all starts right now. Welcome into the 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: Command Center Podcast. 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm Logan Falsenate with Fred Scoot and Santana Mosy. 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: It is I know this today. I switched it up, dude, 15 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: you got me. 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I was dying last couple of times you said that it. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: Is I. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: And as always we are presented by Cognire Technology Secure Today, 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Shape Tomorrow, and so today we are going to do 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: a big, huge, comprehensive free agency review kind of talk 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: about maybe some additional moves that you would make and 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: free agency things they're keep an eye on. 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: But Fred and I have a bet a year a 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: little bit, it's a years old. Bet, it's not quite 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: a years old yet, just shy of a year. 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: About a month, yeah, about a month side of the air, 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: and basically what it is is we did. 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Jason, can you help me through this real quick? 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 3: It's yeah. 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 4: So I produced a show with you, It's our Ticket 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: to the Draft podcast and Fred came on last year 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: Drafty Challenge. You challenge each other to do your guaranteed 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: ballers in the draft. 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 35 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: So now we're a year past, so we can see 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: if your guarantees paid out or not. But you guys 37 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: made a bet on that podcast one who would have 38 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: the better or more? 39 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 40 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: Here, I was pretty confident on the line in a 41 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: year from now to this date. 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: It's your birthday to this date, one of us we. 43 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: Have to stand up in front of the other, one. 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: On one knee, insane, Yeah, own one knee and say 45 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 5: you my friend on this drift gluru in the building 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 5: and I'm nothing and I personally am nothing. 47 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Unless that's right. 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: So that's I gotta find out how one needle. 49 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on one need So that's what's on the line. 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: And we decided this is going to be a visual thing. 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: It's better to do visually than podcasts. So or the 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: Command Center show that will air on April seventeenth, right 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: before the draft. 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Fred, that's also. 55 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: Your birthday, My birthday, so it could be Fred's greatest 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: birthday or worse birthday, because one of them is going 57 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: to have to do this on the show. 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: So make sure you tune in. 59 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 7: Told Logan to bring his knee pads then he used 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 7: to play him. 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: Back in the day, You're gonna have to hit that 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: knee and say. 63 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: You really. 64 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: The more I think about this, the more mad I 65 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: got about it. I'm just like, did I really make 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: that bet? 67 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: Because I don't. I don't need that. I don't need 68 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: that smoke in my life. 69 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 7: Yes, you do, because you feel, you feel very confident 70 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 7: in your draft analysis, you feel very companies in your 71 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 7: draft breakdown, and then here comes guru like me who 72 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 7: does is our frequency and sound ways and feel and 73 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 7: I do it differently. 74 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 6: So would this befred first win? 75 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 8: If he does win beta beta quite quite a few times, 76 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 8: and I don't think he's. 77 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: One one. 78 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Because the thing I'm worried about those is I picked 79 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys and I think a lot of 80 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: them are injured this year or so I'm just like, 81 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: and I know Fred picking my liars, but yeah, so. 82 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 6: What it would be good if you get a win? 83 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 7: Because I mean, that's why I say we should have 84 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 7: been bowled by now, that would have been a victory. 85 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 7: But I must tell y'all these guys this weekend I 86 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 7: felt mortality and this is. 87 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 6: What I mean. 88 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 7: I pulled to a gas station. In the gas station 89 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 7: it was vacuums, so I was like, oh, it's seventy degrees. 90 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 7: Let me vacuum the car. I get out the car, 91 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 7: go on the passioner side, put the coins in there, 92 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 7: start the vacuum, and my back goes. 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: Sat Tanna. 94 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 7: I had laying on the concrete when I called and passing, 95 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 7: not able to move. 96 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: My God, listen to me. When I crawled, I didn't 97 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: even been the vacuum. The cotte threw the vacuum down. 98 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 7: I crawled around till the driver's side. 99 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: God myself into the seat. 100 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 8: I just need to know what what gas station so 101 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 8: I can get to carry. 102 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: I want to see. 103 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: It was the BP. 104 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 6: I want to see it. 105 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 7: Right by Philo there right there. I literally fell to 106 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 7: the ground. It was down for like at least. 107 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: No one came up to nobody not to help me. 108 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: All they see all they heard in the background. Oh 109 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: the truth heaping in my back. 110 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Man. 111 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: It was so embarrassing. 112 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 7: And then when I got home, I was like, it's here, 113 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 7: So I say, it's all down here from now, like 114 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 7: it's no turning back now. 115 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: To you forty forty five, but your birthday come up. 116 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 8: But see, this is the thing, this is why it 117 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 8: goes out because he lies so much about the working 118 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 8: out he's doing, and then he finally needs to kick in. 119 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 9: He can't you do about don't I just rode a 120 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 9: bike the way. 121 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: They couldn't even didn't even miss a beat. 122 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 6: Mortalent and immortality with. 123 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Some people that are still incredibly vital. Yeah, still young 124 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: in shape. 125 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 8: Shape, seven year old woman out there doing squats and 126 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 8: doing pull ups. You know what I mean. So you 127 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 8: know in my bad going out and want to see 128 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 8: talking with that tongue. 129 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: Listen, And I asked for help. 130 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: I can't you know, I'm not the fact you crawled 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: and pretty listen to me, I'm not playing. 132 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 7: When I got home, I can't, like daddy all right, no, 133 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 7: like I need help, like. 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: So what you do? 135 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 7: Literal like it took me because I couldn't sit up 136 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 7: in my seat. It took me like and this is 137 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 7: nowhere from my crib to. 138 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Me like fifteen and you yeah, I'm rolling the sideway. 139 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I can't. 140 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 7: And then listen, I'm serious, man, you I needed help. 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 7: I was like, if I had a life alert right now, 142 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 7: I would have pressed the button because I was hard 143 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 7: on him. 144 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Dude, you should come on one that had been so funny. 145 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: And say can I get up? Copy? 146 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: If you would have come, I would have come helped you. 147 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: I would have recorded you, and then I would come 148 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: help you. 149 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 8: Say you would have most define while I'm picking. 150 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 6: Them up, looking at looking at the food, looking at food, 151 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 6: give me, give me, give me your head. 152 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: I haven't get. 153 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 6: Then when his head get for always joking on people? 154 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, right, you gotta call the guest. You got. 155 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 6: This podcast footage? Man? We read it? 156 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Well, see if you can find 157 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: that footage. Track it down for you. 158 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, So we're doing a free agency review, and again 159 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that we're really excited to 160 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm just gonna say the names off real quick. 161 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: We got Deebo, Samuel Who, Javon Kinlaw who, Will Harris, 162 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, Dietrich Wise, and Eddie Goldman are kind of 163 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: the Martoy Marquee signings of that group. And so I 164 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: guess we've already. 165 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Talked a lot about Devo when he does for the offense, but. 166 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: You know, just talking about maybe Adam Peters and his 167 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: kind of ability to find some pieces, you know, that 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: weren't on the board initially. 169 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 7: To start, I've learned this about Adam Peters. First of all, 170 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 7: let grandma cook hashtag. Second of all, copyright. He's seeing 171 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 7: through jed opp mind tricks. Where other people see this 172 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 7: is a slow market, not him, because he ain't looking 173 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 7: at boy who's free. 174 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: He looking at who's on your roster. He's looking at situations. 175 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 7: He literally back and watch the Texans last year go 176 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 7: on the spending spree because they feel like they was 177 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 7: in they wonder knowing that they were gonna have to 178 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 7: pay people. And now here it comes and he says, 179 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 7: you know what, here goes a cap situation. Let me 180 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 7: go and take advantage of it. Listen, Adam Peters Jedi. 181 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's tremendous. 182 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: Man. 183 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 8: I think when you look back at just some of 184 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 8: the things that we did last year, we was able 185 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 8: to do last year with those guys that we brought in, we. 186 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: Didn't really know, you know what it was going to 187 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: look like. 188 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 8: We know, we brought in a lot of guys on 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 8: to put them on a one year deals, and we 190 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 8: was like, hey, you know a lot of these guys 191 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 8: are veterans, so we sure that they can catch on quick. 192 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 6: And when you see the talent. 193 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 8: Now a year, a year later, a year later, you're like, wow, 194 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 8: like you know, and you know what we have here 195 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 8: with the coaching staff. 196 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 6: You know we have here with some of the young 197 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 6: talent already. 198 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 8: So it's just tremendous that you can you you for years, 199 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 8: we've been saying we need a guy for this job 200 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 8: for years, we need a real guy who's going to 201 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 8: know them, who knows how to pick talent. And then 202 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 8: you get one and it's like year one, then miss 203 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 8: a b. Year two, well, year one he showed all 204 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 8: of the year two have missed the beat already. He's 205 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 8: gotten off to a good start. So now it's now 206 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 8: it's about seeing how these guys are. I guess you 207 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 8: can say they fit the puzzle. You see what I'm saying, 208 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 8: See where where can they slide in and what value 209 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 8: do they bring to the team. 210 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 7: Well, just like the great poor Kendre Lamar said, you know, 211 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 7: sometimes you have to just jump out and show people. 212 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: And that's what he doing. 213 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: Frince Phil himself ready to go back. 214 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 6: To add to day, keep the painting with. 215 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 7: All I'm saying is he's on the he was on 216 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 7: a mission to upgrade at least every room with one 217 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 7: player like so he's almost pushed where we was last year, 218 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 7: pushed everybody down one pig and then inserted more talent. 219 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: Like that's how you upgrade the roster. 220 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: I have seen people go out and say I'm gonna 221 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 7: upgrade the roster, and now they doing his add names. No, 222 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 7: he's adding, he's adding to an arsenal. And then let's 223 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 7: let's be honest. He's identified what he want between ken 224 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 7: law Wise and Goldment. 225 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: He's a mountain of men. 226 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: The big dude thes a. 227 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: We got bigger in it room. Not only better, we 228 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: got bigger. 229 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that defensive line room for a second, 230 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: because again, like two guys that I just got to 231 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: give shout outs to. So Dietrich Wise from the New 232 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: England Patriots plays defensive end, comes in on third down 233 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: at defensive tackle Russian side, is a big man six 234 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: y five ye two hundred and eighty five pounds, big 235 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,119 Speaker 1: old house, good against. 236 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: The run, but also can rush the passer a little bit. 237 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: Right. 238 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman, Right, I played with him in Chicago for 239 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: a year. It's in sixteen. He's a three hundred and 240 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: thirty five pounds six y five like run stopper. 241 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: That's explosive. You can do line stuffs with him. Stuff. 242 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: So I'm one just like, look at these two dudes, 243 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: like the raising, Like what are the issues they had? 244 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Last year? Was stopping the run? Right, So let's go 245 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: out and find people. 246 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Because there's a schematic element, there's also a personnel element too, right, 247 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: So like I don't want Deron have any double teams. 248 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want Jerzon to have the double teams. 249 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: I can get Eddie Goldman out there, and that's what 250 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: he is good, that's what he's made for. Let's let 251 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: him do that. And so I think that's a great point. 252 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: And then I think the interesting thing about Javon Kinlaw 253 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: is like what is his role Because you're watch him 254 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: on film crazy explosive man like explosive. 255 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 7: And I'm looking for him to be more explosive because 256 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: they asked him to gain twenty pounds in New York 257 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 7: because they wanted him to play the point of at tech. 258 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure Peter's gonnax him. Let's take that twenty pounds 259 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: back out. 260 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: So that's an interesting one because it's like what do 261 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: you because this is the tennis point, like having a 262 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: guy at the gam spot and to Fred's point, like 263 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: that knows what they want and who they want to be. 264 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: Like Javon Kinlaw is not a great run stopper, but 265 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: you can rush the past. So how do you maximize 266 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: that skill set? Because you do have an athlete who 267 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: is unequivocally explosive, dynamic. 268 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: And bad attitude. 269 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: Bad attitude. 270 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he's one of these guys show up with 271 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 7: a nasty attitude. 272 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: We were talking, you were talking. I didn't watch. His 273 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: interview is great, Brian Colbert on Next Man Up. You 274 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: can check it out on the Commandity. 275 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: Goatch this interview. 276 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: We're so good about it. Just give us a pre right. 277 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: First of all, have you seen him? 278 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 7: First of all, his energy, everything stores with energy. He 279 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 7: was homely the story homeless living in Southeast DC. Like 280 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 7: you said I was. I was bowing in it. When 281 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 7: it comes to being the part of his fan mase, 282 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 7: this is all I eat, sleeping, Listen, if you feel 283 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 7: the intensity coming out for him, you know, I want 284 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 7: to be in I want to be in the trenches 285 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 7: with him, a dark alley. 286 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: I won't, I won't camerong with me. 287 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because like Adam knows him from San Francisco, 288 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: and then obviously the old coach for the Jets. I 289 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: forget to say Old Brick was the interim coach. He 290 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: knows Dan Quinn very well. 291 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: Robert Sala knows. 292 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: Dan really well, knows Adam really well. They coach the 293 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: other so they know exactly who this is. And there's 294 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that like that personality, that energy, 295 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: that competitive fire, that competitive toughness fits in. 296 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: So well with what they've got here. 297 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: So everyone I remember, I got a lot of questions 298 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: on Instagram and social media about like why they bring 299 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: him in, Like he's bad against the run. 300 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't know why they brought him in, but he's 301 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: wired the right way to yes this last. 302 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: And when I watch on film, he's got something to 303 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: him that hasn't been tapped into yet. And I just 304 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: look at what this coaching staff did last year. I 305 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: look at what Daryl tapped out. I look what Ryan 306 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: Kerrigan like, you can get it. 307 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 7: Out of him first of all people x Y. We 308 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 7: bring in fil last year for ten and a half six. 309 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: So this is what I'd say to you, Tanne. 310 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: This is the other thing is you get in some pieces, right, 311 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: and you can't keep everybody, and you. 312 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Set a value for a player. Yeah, this is a 313 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: crazy deep defensive line draft. Yeah. 314 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: Sure, and I think at twenty nine there's going to 315 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: be a guy who can make a difference for you. 316 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: And a sickond round and did Yeah, So. 317 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: Like maybe you're playing like, hey, we've got some really 318 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: solid pieces where we signed Cleveland, Ferrell, resigned, Dietrich Wise, 319 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: we bring in kin Law, who we don't really know 320 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: at this point. There's some rumor circling that maybe he's 321 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: going to play like an edge rusher type position, crush 322 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: the pocket, and then all of a sudden, you just 323 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: need one more because you got four right there, and 324 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying one more dynamic piece. So maybe you set 325 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: a value at him, you exceeded the value, and like 326 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the things you did, Like with Jeremy 327 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: Chin's a great example of this. It's a technique you say, hey, 328 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: go test the market, we think your value is this 329 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: yet more than that? 330 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: Go for it? 331 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 7: And what if we want to get younger at the musicition? 332 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 7: So I think you one thing you love to match 333 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 7: up if you want to really do something, you want 334 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 7: to make sure your quarterback which we got that check, 335 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 7: and your top pass rusher you want them to kind 336 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 7: of be around. 337 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: The same age. 338 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 8: Free agency can get a little tricky for guys who 339 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 8: are not really in tune with how things are done 340 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 8: when it comes to like, I guess you can say 341 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 8: in that room, in that war room, because you forget 342 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 8: it's a draft, so you get caught up in the 343 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 8: whole free we all do it because I'm sitting there, like, 344 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 8: but then you think about, oh damn, you just said 345 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 8: the draft got There's going to be more value out there, 346 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 8: younger talent, you know what I mean, Guys that you 347 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 8: can probably fill in too, So I can you know, 348 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 8: I've heard a lot of people, you know from just 349 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 8: listen to the radio talk about certain guys and some 350 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 8: of the people who DM me in I'll just be 351 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 8: I leave them crickets. 352 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: I can respond to it. 353 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 7: But you use free agency so you don't have to 354 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 7: hel prison of doing the Dre. You use free agency 355 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 7: so I can go into the draft saying I'm not 356 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 7: a prison to no room. 357 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: I just won't best play this. 358 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 7: This is what we did, I feel because we weren't 359 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 7: gonna find no Larry Mtunsel in this year's draft. 360 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: We pinally gonna find out Deebo samdels in this year's dream. 361 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 7: Like, so how I look at it is from what 362 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 7: he got us set up as is truly we. 363 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Can go it there now and just cherry pick talent. Yeah. 364 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: I think the other thing too. 365 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: To keep in mind this is this is an interesting 366 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: kind of something that people don't think about as much. 367 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Is like, when there's a good draft, this a certain position. 368 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: So let's say defensive end, just as an example, more 369 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: teams draft defensive lineman. That means they also cut. 370 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: Veteran defensive line. 371 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: So in that second or third wave of free agency, 373 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: which is post draft, Yeah, there's gonna be some good players, right, 374 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: maybe more players that you're willing to spend a little 375 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: bit more money on, right, Like, so there's multiple opportunities here. Again, Like, 376 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: obviously we were bummed Dante's leaving because he had such 377 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: a great year last year for us, But there's other 378 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: opportunities to kind of fill those with a younger, maybe 379 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: more talented piece, maybe a piece that fits your culture 380 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: for a longer window than a year. Yeah, and I 381 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: think that's all. And then the other thing too that 382 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about is the trade value. Right obviously 383 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Trey Henderson as an example, is still available, you know 384 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so again I've heard that they're 385 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: asking crazy price. 386 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: The price tags. 387 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 8: They definitely don't need some money now because this is 388 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 8: gayly a lot of money. 389 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: Well when you give away two hundred and fifty meal 390 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: in the one room. 391 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 7: But now, I just think, as long as time goes pass, 392 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 7: this is the list they gonna get for trading. And 393 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: so at one point they have to be realistic on 394 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 7: his trade value. And when he eat a player is unhappy, 395 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 7: I eat a player is being basically here a hostage 396 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 7: and not gonna get paid. Like hundreds of years, your 397 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 7: trade value goes down, it doesn't get bigger. 398 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So again, there's a lot of opportunities to replace 399 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: some of those pieces. But I do think that the 400 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: guys they brought into Fred's initial point are guys that 401 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: are good, competitive, tough football players. 402 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: On the defensive line. Let's talk about the secondary real quick. 403 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: So these are guys we haven't talked about a ton 404 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: of Will Harris's safety was in New Orleans last year. 405 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I think he was drafted to Detroit if I'm not mistaken. 406 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: And then Jonathan Jones cornerback from the New England Patriots, 407 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: little nethers size guys like five nine, like one hundred 408 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: and ninety pounds. Yeah, but ran a four to three 409 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: at the combine lightning quick. Let's talk about how these 410 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: guys fit in here. I think Will Harris is maybe 411 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: the most interesting because, like we talked about, you know, 412 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: bringing back Jeremy Chin and they let him walk. I 413 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: think he is a very good football. 414 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 6: For remind me. 415 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 8: As soon as I saw what we was getting, I'm like, 416 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 8: oh man, yeah, we just we just actually lost one 417 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 8: and gained one. 418 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 419 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 8: I mean Will Harris And I watched a little bit 420 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 8: of him last year, didn't even I didn't know what 421 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 8: I was paying attention to. 422 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 6: Saw flashes of him. Yeah, but he's violent. 423 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 8: And when you're talking about how we how we picking 424 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 8: these guys and what we wanted to do, yeah, you know, 425 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 8: coach said it. Well, I think I still go back 426 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 8: to that first interview with coach with you know how 427 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 8: he spoke about you know, I decordingly spoke about the 428 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 8: type of guys he wanted to bring in here and 429 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 8: what he want them to show up to the party with. 430 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 8: And man, I saw this dude make a couple of 431 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 8: open field tackles and just not even that, just going 432 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 8: down there, digging out, you know, lining. 433 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: And getting to the getting to the bay energy. 434 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's going to show up at your front door 435 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 8: and he won't he won't smoke. 436 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 7: He put the money in the bag. He that type 437 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 7: of dude like he can do pretty much anything. You 438 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 7: asked him to play any any safe position you actually 439 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 7: moved down and the knickel could play the nickel position, 440 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 7: so he so he can he can basically add to 441 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 7: anything or fill in any gap you got. 442 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: But just go turn on the tape against US last year. 443 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 7: If you want to know what you're getting in this player, 444 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 7: just go turn on the tape against US and Jonathan Jones. 445 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: What you're getting is one the constant professional. You getting 446 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 7: a guy that's been there, done that, two time Super 447 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 7: Bowl winner. You getting a guy that's the question is 448 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 7: do you move him inside or do you move Mickey 449 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 7: Center still inside. 450 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: What they do and again, like I think you also resigned. 451 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: It's great he can move inside. 452 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: We got we just got, we just got we got deep. 453 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 6: I got depth? Is there? Now you can? Now you can? 454 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 6: Now you have more bodies at that corner bay. 455 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 8: We were talking about we need corners, and to me, 456 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 8: I feel like that just solidified us. 457 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 6: Our room getting a lot more stronger, you know. 458 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: And it's it's a great opportunity to provide some flexibility, 459 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: some depth. And I do think that Jonathan Jones can 460 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: play the nickel, you can play outside in the pinch. 461 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: And so I think about the guy that he's coming 462 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: in for. It's like Benjamin Saint Juice or Davis from 463 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: my year, and I think unequivocally he's great. He's an upgrade. 464 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: That's another knock on those guys. He's just a more established. 465 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 7: Say well season consistent, you know, like he's just been there, 466 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 7: done it like some stuff. When this is not hate 467 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 7: like sometimes you just I'm just reporting the news. I 468 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 7: don't make the news. I just report the news. And 469 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 7: right now Saint Juice play for the Chargers. I'm glad 470 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 7: you reunited with your college coach. You know, he played 471 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 7: for Harball, so everybody wins in this thing. But hey, 472 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 7: come on in and welcome home. Jonathan Jones to Saint Juice. 473 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 7: How do you some Beagles? 474 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's a he's a heck of 475 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: a And I think that's the thing, as Tenny you 476 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: said it. 477 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: Will Harris really competitive, high energy, high energy. I think 478 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: he adds a little bit. Actually, I love Jeremy Chip, but. 479 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: I think he's on the cover side. He most definitely does. 480 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: I think Will Harris adds a little bit of value 481 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: there too. 482 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: And you get a guy like Jonathan Jones with the experience, 483 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: the leadership, the ability to kind of mentor a room. 484 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I think that's always that's pretty fantastic. So you know, 485 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: those are kind of the main defensive additions. And it 486 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: does and people like, oh, there's no big name in 487 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: there outside of Kenlong maybe, but I think all these 488 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: guys are really good pros and they raise the floor. 489 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot of value in 490 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: saying this is the floor and then in the draft, 491 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: let's see if we can add a little bit of 492 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: accent and. 493 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 7: It's a flavor to it, Like right now, this is 494 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 7: the meeting to bree it right. Yeah, when we go 495 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 7: into the draft, them at the top is lid is 496 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 7: tomato mayo mustard, like make. 497 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: The sandwich taste good. 498 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 7: And that's why you don't want to have to go 499 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 7: in there and say we got to leave out of 500 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 7: here with the left tackle. And we'll leave out of 501 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 7: here with the left tack. Now you're going to force 502 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 7: your way to draft to somebody you probably shouldn't need 503 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 7: to draft. 504 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I guess, yeah, let's get into the 505 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: next segment here, So risk it for the biscuit. Adam 506 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Peters keep cooking, keeps cooking. And this segment is always 507 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: presented by marsh mc lennon agency. You're a partner in 508 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: risk and people's strategies. And so we alluded to this already. 509 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: And one thing we didn't talk about was the laramie 510 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: tunsil trade. Mm and man, like you know, producer Jason, 511 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: he sent me like a little gift. And it's like 512 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: there's no good left tackles left on the market, you know, 513 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: because Ronnie Stanley resigned the kid in Jacksonville, resigned the 514 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: kid in La Leric Jackson He resigned to La So 515 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there aren't a good left tackles, like 516 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And that's something that really 517 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: need to happen. Then Adam Peters like, hold my. 518 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: Beer, works out this straighter. 519 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: And this is like the thing you were talking about 520 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: at the beginning, Like it's the free agency is bad. 521 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do about it? Yeah, you 522 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: still got to make the team better. 523 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 7: He literally went and looked at out thirty two teams 524 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 7: and said who is in camp? Hell one team the 525 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 7: forty nine. I take Debo, another team the tixas I 526 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 7: take Larry my Tons. He looking at situational football. He's 527 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 7: looking at he looking at it bigger. He looking at 528 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 7: the fine print where other people don't see. These people 529 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 7: need to make a move. He's anticipating them. I got 530 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 7: to either make this move now, I'm gonna pay for 531 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 7: it later. And I think he looks at teams that's 532 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 7: under the rest and got to have cap problem. So 533 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 7: that's deeper than everybody would because if you asked me 534 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 7: two weeks ago, could we trade for Tomson just just 535 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 7: after those and I'd have been like, we could, but 536 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 7: they not us. 537 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 6: And I'm glad you brought it up. 538 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 8: I was gonna ask you little because I think you 539 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 8: want those guys that kind of probably can dive a 540 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 8: little deeper into what what conversation comes up with those 541 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 8: gms to get a guy like Tumson like, especially when 542 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 8: you don't hear it. You know, sometime you hear the 543 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 8: rumblings of debo might get get traded. We didn't hear 544 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 8: nothing about Tonson and this coming off of last year, 545 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 8: the only thing that he had hanging over was those penalties, 546 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: you know what I mean? So what kind of conversation 547 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 8: you think came up with those guys to get up 548 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 8: get him over here with us? 549 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: So I think the one thing that people need to 550 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: understand is that like there's everyone's got a price, yeah right, 551 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: And I think what Fred like pointed out there is 552 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: like I need to find the right team. And so 553 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: if there's a piece that I want with the Houston Texans, 554 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him be like, hey, what would it 555 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: take to move Laramie? And they probably say, you know, hey, 556 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna take a first round pick. 557 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 558 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: We say, oh, we'll came back, yeah, go back and 559 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: say how about this? Yeah? They said, well, but about this? 560 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: And then it's it starts off as we're not going 561 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: to move them, and then eventually they. 562 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: Get we're having a conversation. 563 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: We realized that they like, they realized they wanted to happen. 564 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: They realize they can offload an asset right and we 565 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: have some cap room so that they can extend people 566 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and get ready for C. J. 567 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: Stroud or we'll have it. 568 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: It's the very stingly deal. They just got signed for 569 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: ninety million dollars because of this. 570 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 7: It's because of this, because of the Larry Tunsil trade, 571 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 7: so they had to free that money. They couldn't And 572 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 7: this this is why I say Adam Peter's on another 573 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 7: level because he's anticipating they got to RESTIDN Stingley. They 574 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 7: can't only do that if they free some cap room. 575 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 7: Let me go help them. 576 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 577 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 8: That's the special part of it that a lot of 578 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 8: folks don't probably think about that. There's guys that's so 579 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 8: special what they do, especially when it comes to just 580 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 8: you know, picking players. You're not sitting there waiting for 581 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 8: a guy to say, okay, it's a potential trade. You know, 582 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 8: the shopping you're basically looking at everybody's you know, roster 583 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 8: saying well, I'm gonna go start to pay this guy. 584 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 8: They cap on you here, so that's it. We can 585 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 8: get them the budget off of this guy. You know 586 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 8: what I'm saying, It takes a skill for you to 587 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 8: have that. 588 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 7: The next time I would look at is the New 589 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 7: York Jets. They just cut see J. 590 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: Mosley. 591 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 6: They cut see J. 592 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 7: Mosley because they got the sign south cutting. So I'll 593 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 7: be looking on the Roston see who I like, they 594 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 7: either needs to be paid I already got paid. 595 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 596 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing too, is like people 597 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: make these people think it's like, oh, just because in 598 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: the news you hear that so and so's available for trading. 599 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: I know you guys don't think it. 600 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 8: Don't even be about that. I mean, that'd be smoke. Yeah, 601 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 8: that'd be the agent still. 602 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: But my point is that, like you're these calls happen 603 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: almost all the time time, Like do you remember when 604 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: we're the forty nine ers trader for Jim Agaroppolo? 605 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 606 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: Remember that that was like in twenty seventeen. They initially 607 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: called about Tom Brady. You know what I'm saying, would 608 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: you be willing to trade him and how much would 609 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: it take? Yeah, and they say no, but you call 610 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: back and they say, well, we are willing to do. 611 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, they call all 612 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: the time. Because Tom Brady's getting old. There's a chancell 613 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: move Aaron all these guys, right, everyone's got a price 614 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: and they're gonna and especially for like an older asset 615 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: like Mike Evans. I'm sure they field trade talks with 616 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: him all the time, but they want to keep him. 617 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: So it's just something happens. And I think it's a. 618 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Testament to Adam Peters and the whole front office really, 619 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, Lance Newmark, all those guys up there, that 620 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: they're able to kind of identify these decisions and then 621 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: get a package that like works. Let's just review the 622 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: trade details real quick. So Washington receives Tunsil and a 623 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four fourth round pick. Houston receives a twenty 624 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: twenty five third round pick. Ye I misread that. So 625 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: it's a twenty twenty five fourth round pick right the 626 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: upcoming draft, yep. And then He's from receives a twenty 627 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty five third round pick, a twenty twenty five seventh 628 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: round pick, a twenty twenty six second round pick and 629 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: a twenty twenty six fourth round pick. And so what 630 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: this This shows me a couple of things. One that's 631 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: really good trade value for twenty twenty five amazing trade value. 632 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: So basically you're getting Laramie Tunsol for what amounts to 633 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: a third round pick. Yea, because you're getting a fourth 634 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: round pick back. 635 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: Right, swam basically a pick swat. 636 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 637 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a why and I would take 638 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: that every single time. I also think you mortgage from 639 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six draft capital. And this is just me, 640 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: just a guy kind of on the couch observing it. 641 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: And you can go higher with your second round pick, 642 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: you can go higher with your fourth round pick because 643 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: we need draft assets this year. 644 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Ye And then next year we're going. 645 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 6: To always do that. You know, next year you can 646 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 6: always kind of get more. 647 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get we're gonna get compicks, we're gonna leave, 648 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get opportunities to kind of the people are 649 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: gonna sign up their places, right. And so I look 650 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: at this and I say to myself, that's smart because 651 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: we know we needed five six picks this year, right 652 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: now to make this roster better, put the tomatoes and 653 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: the lettuce on it, and then next year we can 654 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: problem solve that with trades of our own complex. Guys 655 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: leaving that are going to resign other places, because as 656 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: we get better, that's gonna happen more often. 657 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Coaches are gonna leave, right. 658 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: We get conflicts for that too, so we'll be able 659 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: to recuperate some of that draft capital. 660 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 7: And you're not going to find a pro bowld left tackle. 661 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I love Will Campbell one of the best 662 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 7: alignment in his draft. 663 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: It ain't no guaranteed he a pro bowler. 664 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: There's no I mean, there's not even guarante's gonna pay tackle. 665 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like they saying that the kangaroo arms and his 666 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: might move him to guard. So all I'm saying is 667 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: I don't care. 668 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 7: I love draft capital, I love young young players, but 669 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 7: a guarantee commodity it left tackle. Like, they don't trade 670 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 7: left tackles and left tackles don't usually. 671 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: Hit free agency. 672 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 7: So this is the football guys shining on us for 673 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 7: what happened with Trent Wick. Right, Let's be honest, them saying, 674 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 7: you know what, since y'all gave for the nine Ers 675 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 7: Trent for barely nothing, and he's been a super All 676 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 7: Pro since he got there. Here go Larry M. Tounson 677 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 7: to make sure Jedi five stays up. 678 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 8: I want I wonder how that and I know we 679 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 8: ain't worried about them and what they got going on, 680 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 8: but I want to do that, do that effect what 681 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 8: they have in their young quarterback and just c J 682 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 8: scrap just knowing what he how much potential he showed 683 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 8: the first year. Yeah, and then last year was off year, 684 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 8: but it was it wasn't It wasn't his fault. I 685 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 8: guess you can say, or it may have been as 686 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 8: for a little bit they say he held on the 687 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 8: ball a little bit more he had. 688 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 7: They'll try to replace the tackle, maybe draft. 689 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: The guy they're gonna be always interested just Tightus Howard 690 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: their right tackle to the left tackle. 691 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 692 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: And then they had a rookie second round pick this year 693 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: that played a lot for him. And so the one 694 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: thing this is something that fans maybe don't understand, but 695 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: it's important to understand this. Your offensive line coach is 696 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: your third coordinator, fourth coordinator, right, Yeah, and when the 697 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: offensive line struggles that it's struggled in Houston. 698 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: Last year, that guy the OC. 699 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: They're not doing a good job insulating that group, having 700 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: a protection plan. Like that's really what that is about 701 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: to me, because they're not passing off stunts. They're not 702 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: handling targets well like in protection and that was more 703 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: of the issue. You can't pass off a simple et stunt. 704 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: And it's week ten, like. 705 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: This coach, something's wrong. 706 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, this coach and so like, I think he's 707 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna laraim, he's gonna get some heat from that, like 708 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: as him being responsible for that, and people are worried 709 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: about TJ Straut. I think you get a better coach 710 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: in there, clean up the offensive plan a little bit, 711 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: and I think you're in a much better spot. So 712 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, Laramie Tunsseel, I think, like you said, Redd, 713 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: I was trying to think about to see that. I 714 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: think he's a top five offensive lineman still in the NFL, 715 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: no doubt, specifically tackle. So I mean you go Trent, 716 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: you go Wurfs, you go Johnson, you go Mylatta, and 717 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: you go the kid up in Detroit, what's his name, 718 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: the right tackle. 719 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: Uh Peanuts? 720 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, sool, And then I think you're right there, So six, 721 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: I think that's Tunsle. And to get a guy like that, 722 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: which teams don't give up, there's a couple of things 723 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: teams don't give up in free in free agency, good 724 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: head rushers, good tackles. 725 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: Good quarterbacks. 726 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: Like it's just never gonna happen, So you gotta find 727 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: different ways of getting it. Obviously, the draft is one way, 728 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: and like Fred said, the draft this year with offensive 729 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: lines a little bit mixed, especially at twenty nine, So. 730 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: Let's ensure that we take care of that resource. 731 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Let's just bump Brandon Coleman wherever he's gotta go, and 732 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: we got the best starting five on the field. 733 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, it just seems like. 734 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 7: In front of Piecks that we gave Listen, I wouldn't 735 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 7: have been mad if we gave up a first. 736 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: I still think he exceeded the value. But to keep 737 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: that though, no, no, no, that is what I'm saying 738 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: to me. 739 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 7: To keep your first while getting Laramie Tossel and Deebo 740 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 7: Samuels in the same free agent period in Trey period, 741 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 7: that's unbelievable. 742 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable. 743 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: And you got anything say about Lear, I mean this 744 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: is the thing that you're looking for right with a 745 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: young quarterback offensive lineman. Let's get that thing all settled 746 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: up and be ready to rock Hi. 747 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 7: Around un coffee at the tack. Listen, he's a big dude, man, 748 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 7: he's a big dude. He's a big old man. 749 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: And I played with him when I was in Houston. 750 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: So twenty nineteen we shared a locker or lockers right 751 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: next to mine. I will say, a very nice person. 752 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: I enjoyed my. 753 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 6: Time you least year nineteen twenty nineteen. 754 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: Damn, And yeah, young, my back isn't thrown out. 755 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: I've been saying I can't wait till you on the 756 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: ground the Wigan. 757 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 8: And you're just like I told you, you ain't gonna be. 758 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 8: You ain't gonna get the same as him. Stuff habits 759 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 8: to town free. That's his payback. 760 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let's talk about so in addition to 761 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: the Laramie thing, which is absolutely enormous, we got obviously, 762 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: we talked about the defensive kind of resurgence renaissance, how 763 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: that places you in a good position for the draft. 764 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: We also re signed a lot of our own pieces, 765 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: and I think this is also important to Fred's initial 766 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: point you want to make sure the scaffolding is there 767 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: from a free agency standpoint, right, and you also want 768 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: to make. 769 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: Sure you got some depth. So let's talk through some stuff. 770 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Obviously, we got Bobby Wagner back, Marcus Marioder, and zach Ertz, 771 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: and let's talk about those three guys real quick, because 772 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: I really think those guys are important for turiass one 773 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: his leadership. 774 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 775 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: Two is hell what they do for. 776 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 6: Jadon and Daniels, Yeah, a whole lot. 777 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 7: I been say, Bobby literally teaching him how to see 778 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 7: through defenses at practice. You might have wear a card 779 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 7: Marcus Mariota Yoda himself because. 780 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: He's been in there. 781 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 7: He's been in his ear since he got here getting 782 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: the young Jedi right. And zach Ertz has been his 783 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 7: emergency blanket. So you're right, these people have layered. And 784 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 7: don't forget about the fourth win in there. He not 785 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 7: only gave up his number for him, but oh yeah, no, 786 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 7: trust way, baby, you know what I'm talking about, missed Way, 787 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 7: all right? So yeah, most definitely they helped Jay the 788 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 7: Jedi five get to where he's at. 789 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 8: I was listening to some folks talk talk about the 790 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 8: other day, like how important it is to bring in 791 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 8: veteran leadership and what some guy's role is beyond the 792 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 8: playing field. And the first person name popped up in 793 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 8: my head was Bobby Wait just knowing that you know, 794 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 8: not only we wash them in the middle of games, 795 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 8: getting guys in position like I don't know when the 796 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 8: last time we saw that happening London with us, you 797 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, And it's just like it was. 798 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 8: It was one of those situations where it talk about 799 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 8: a nause him how bad we were when it comes 800 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 8: to stopping the run, but the defense as a whole wasn't. 801 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 6: Bad, feel me. 802 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 8: So I look at his leadership at the linebacker position 803 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 8: for the defense, but not only for the defense in 804 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 8: the big team meeting room as a whole, being that guy, 805 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 8: being that voice, being the person that a young Jedi 806 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 8: five can go to and talk to. You saw him 807 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 8: at those basketball games, him him basically teaching him how 808 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 8: to be a pro. 809 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 6: So, oh man, his you can give him every year 810 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 6: he said he wanted to come back. 811 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 8: I'm signing them because I understand that it's more value 812 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 8: than just what he brings on the field, and then 813 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 8: from them to go out there and get a hundred 814 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 8: some tackles plus that just shows you what kind of 815 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 8: person he is and players. So I think, man, out 816 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 8: of all these guys, I know we're going to get 817 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 8: to all these guys, but when not the first time 818 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 8: I heard that conversation about the veteran leadership and what 819 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 8: role they played, Bobby Wagoner stood out man, and just 820 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 8: seeing it live and in person in it was a joy. 821 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: To watch Antenna. You were kind of that guy for 822 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: a long time. 823 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: And did you have anybody in your career that you 824 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: were like this guy kind of did what Bobby did 825 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: for the team, you know, because if those guys are 826 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: like I think about Fletch for me, I think about you. 827 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fletcher. Fletcher was that for us. 828 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 8: Oh you know it's crazy because when I was in 829 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 8: New York, I watched guys like Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin 830 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 8: is the reason why while I was able to play 831 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 8: fourteen years, I sit on that that table with him 832 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 8: in the training room. One year he didn't practice the 833 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 8: whole entire year and let the league in Russia. I 834 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 8: watched this guy have two ankle springs, two high ankle springs, 835 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 8: and he got them treated every day. And he and 836 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 8: he set there with a with a pad and a 837 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 8: bible and he would read his Bible and he was 838 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 8: writing notes. I'm sitting there like so, you know, and 839 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 8: he just picking my brain on picking his brain. I'm 840 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 8: dealing with something soft, soft tissue. I think at the 841 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 8: time I had either ribs or soft tissue. But he's like, yeah, 842 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 8: tann it, you got to pay the play. He had 843 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 8: a real smooth It was funny because I remember the 844 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 8: guys in the locker room always you know, joke with him. 845 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 6: Uh, they be like, man, yeah, I went to Curtis 846 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 6: house man. 847 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 8: I went to the Curtis house man and his butler 848 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 8: came to the door and its like, Curtis will be 849 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 8: with you in a minute. He's like, and he was 850 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 8: like it was almost like, you know, I heard some 851 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 8: maxwell playing in the background. 852 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 6: He's a small brother, Bro, He's a smooth, good looking brother, Paul. 853 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 854 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 8: So it's just like one of those situations, man, So 855 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 8: when you watching them and I'm a young pup, I'm 856 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 8: sitting there like, bro, who is pretty well you. 857 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 6: Know what I mean? 858 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 8: The boy, the boy got curls in his head, you 859 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 8: know what I mean, and this thing slick, but he 860 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 8: get out there and he run that. You say that 861 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 8: Taylor todaytor So, but no, but he was one of 862 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 8: those guy him. 863 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 6: Marvin Jones and mo Lewis. We had a bunch of them. 864 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 8: You know who else I had on the damn Vincent 865 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 8: played play safety for Usan can't think of his name 866 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 8: right now to save my life. But all those guys 867 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 8: at actually kind of helped mold a young Tanner. So 868 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 8: when when by the time I learned it and came 869 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 8: over here, I was ready. I said, man, this team 870 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 8: was kind of young. This team was everywhere it was guys. 871 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 8: I walked out to get ice one day, guys was 872 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 8: running down the hallway to my telling you. 873 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: Curfew. 874 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 6: I'm like this what they doing over you? Jumping and everything, 875 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 6: dude was wild. 876 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 8: But I came from New York where everything was kind 877 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 8: of police by the players because they and we didn't 878 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 8: have to worry about the coaches talking and telling us 879 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 8: to be in at a certain time. 880 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 6: Those guys are gonna make sure you was in there. 881 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 8: So so when I got here, man, and then being 882 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 8: just me myself personally, you know what I mean, I 883 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 8: think I was kind of brought up that way like. 884 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: I always did by my business. 885 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 8: You know, I never want to kind of do nothing 886 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 8: that's gonna hurt, you know what puts the food on 887 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 8: the table from me and mins you know what I'm saying. 888 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 8: And so when I got here it was easy for me. 889 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,959 Speaker 8: By the time I became that guy, it was easy 890 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 8: for me to kind of leave. I let differently. You know, 891 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 8: I was a guy that it was more so by example. 892 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 8: If I need to say something, I would say something. 893 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 8: But it was very seldom I did that because it 894 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 8: was other guys, like you said, like a fletch er. 895 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 8: You know, we had other guys that would speak out. 896 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 8: But you know, if something need to be said, I 897 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 8: give my insight. I give my two cents, but I'm 898 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 8: gonna show you on the field. And I think a 899 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 8: lot of the players in my room, the receiver room 900 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 8: was able to watch me just go to work. 901 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you man? I watching watching how you're living? 902 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 3: Now listen to me? 903 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 6: He wanted listening. 904 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 5: He wanted listening from landing in the garage, laying on 905 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 5: the floor at the grocery. 906 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: All I'm saying. 907 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 7: When I first got here, we was the old folks 908 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 7: home of Ashburg like this team was very old, like 909 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 7: we brought to you. 910 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: So I had Darryl Green in his eighteenth year, nineteenth year, 911 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 3: and I remember. 912 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 7: Being in odd when I worked in my dB room 913 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 7: because I got d I got champed, I got Daryl Green, 914 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 7: and I'm sitting next to Darrel that I lock him. 915 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 3: I was like, man, how do you how do you start. 916 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 7: Eighteen years at cornerback in a row? He was like, smooth, 917 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 7: what do you know my backup name? I looked around 918 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 7: in the locker room and I'm like, nah, now that 919 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: I think about it, so nah, I never know who 920 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 7: your backup was. 921 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 3: He like me needed because I don't never let him play. 922 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 7: Now he said, the best ability is availability, and availability 923 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 7: leads to accountability. Accountability needs to leads to you having 924 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 7: the ability to pay your bills, so you have to 925 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 7: understand that you cannot have one without the other. Then 926 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 7: I had the Bruce Smiths of the world. I literally 927 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 7: like offense, I had big Bell Cow, big Country. I 928 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 7: had Stephen Davis over there like I had guys that 929 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 7: I can pretty much actually Keith Mitchell in the linebacker room. 930 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: I had guys everywhere. 931 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 6: On this team. 932 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 8: You see how bad my memory of Victor Green. Victor 933 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 8: ain't my bad victorm man. He was a good guy 934 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 8: too that I watched my rookie season. Man, he showed 935 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 8: me a lot. 936 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 3: So now they're just your c t. 937 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 2: Get me. 938 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think Bobby, I think Marcus An 939 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: exactly think trust are all guys that do that. I 940 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: think those tinnings are so important to get those guys back. 941 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: And then you talk about guys that are gonna have 942 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: probably significant roles on this team. And I was looking 943 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: at John Bates and Noah Brown are guys motel right, 944 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: And we talked about the importance of having a block 945 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: and wire in the NFL. 946 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 7: Now he I told you, Bates should send you a 947 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 7: Christmas present and a thank you letter because bas just 948 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 7: got paid for being a block and tight end in 949 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 7: this league in twenty twenty five. 950 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 6: And you, my friend, that guy, you are the only 951 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 6: thing I can say about Baits. He on what timble 952 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 6: is on the field. That boy had screws screwing. 953 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: At the bottom of that shooting. 954 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 9: Hey, I let that lookan one day in the film 955 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 9: letting Up Joking Boy, like said six, Al's living in 956 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 9: his ship. 957 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 7: Budd Listen, jump base owe you a thanks of gratitude. 958 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 7: You pay a way for guys like this, But I 959 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 7: can't say this as a blocker tight end, he could 960 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 7: be the best in the league. 961 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: When guys go checking to base motel, they. 962 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 7: Don't leave you check out, they don't check out because 963 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 7: this guy knows what he's doing. 964 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: And Noah Brown got everything he was. 965 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 8: Still and for us to give him back, man, I 966 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 8: was like, damn, they just that's just it's a little destiny, 967 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 8: And damn that was good because you know, like I 968 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 8: loved everything about what he brought to the teams. Besides 969 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 8: Noah making those clutch catchers on third down across the 970 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 8: middle wind, I don't know how people weren't covering them 971 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 8: because I'm like, bro, we keep going through them. He 972 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 8: was getting the most penalties than anybody when they come 973 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 8: to at least one game every week. They was they 974 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 8: was you know, he was getting the pass interference. So 975 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 8: I'm I'm I thought the world about bringing him back 976 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 8: and just watching him go down last year. 977 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: We didn't even know he was hurt when he went down, 978 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. 979 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: Serious injuries, So like I mean, unfortunate for him because 980 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: I think no thing gets paid because of it. But man, 981 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: he's a good football player. 982 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 2: He's physically tough, block blocking, great position and what they 983 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: needed the position. That's the other thing too, Like all 984 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: these guys are I'm gonna say, commanders, right, what do 985 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 2: you say, core commanders? 986 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 3: Core commanders? 987 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, core commanders, Like that's what they are. And I think, 988 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: like Noah, after watching him, like just how it's It's 989 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: in the tape, man, you watch his tape. 990 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 2: That's how he is. 991 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: So it's great to get him back and then we 992 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: get some nice depth pieces on the defensive side of 993 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: the football. Noig Monogany, I think is a huge resigning 994 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of quiet sneakily there. And then Sheldon Day and 995 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: Leland Ferrell all coming back. 996 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 7: Sheldon Day every time they got on their feet, it 997 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 7: was shald In today, right because he played some football. 998 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 6: So how would you do it? That number one gotta 999 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 6: come up? 1000 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 7: Then he gonna they're gonna be a negotiation. 1001 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 2: You gotta be right, just resigned him. So I'm not 1002 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: sure you're give him back the same number. 1003 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: I've been saying. 1004 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1005 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 7: I don't know because because the trade for Debo I 1006 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 7: think went through before we resigned anything. 1007 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 8: He ain't had a numberstand No, you ain't on the roster, 1008 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 8: roster money, roster, Nah, coche. 1009 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 6: We can't do it like that. 1010 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 7: If I were debo time he was showing up, I 1011 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 7: be hey, I'm demo samuels. 1012 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: On. It was nothing you're gonna wear next year. I 1013 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: hear two opens in the army. I can put that 1014 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 3: too off, he. 1015 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 6: Put it to. 1016 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 8: But I think you coach Messon's pill because that's that's 1017 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 8: one of them days where you know, that's the hitting. 1018 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 3: Money that they on the count for. 1019 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 7: No, I'm kind of hot right now because I didn't 1020 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 7: have great negotiation like that was the Bible gonna because 1021 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 7: I ain't coming in no. 1022 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 6: Shorter than fifty thousand, what I'm saying, at. 1023 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: Least for that, and he was playing better than nineteen 1024 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: though I don't. 1025 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: Got nothing to do with it. 1026 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 6: He wants ye don't want one. But I'm just saying, 1027 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 6: you know, yeah. 1028 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: So you right? Is it? 1029 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 7: It could come up in a couple of times, like 1030 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 7: it's a couple of players, like numbers might come up 1031 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 7: in and be a thing right now. 1032 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, I'm really happy to know what's back. 1033 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job playing Nicol obviously 1034 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: like up and down, but I thought, you know, played physically, 1035 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: played great and coverage. 1036 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: And was a really nice fine and he was an asset. 1037 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 1: And when you add Jonathan Jones to that secondary group 1038 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: with a lot more and Mike Sanders. 1039 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 7: Peeping down to the right slot, slotting everybody into the 1040 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 7: right slot between the championship roster and a good rosta 1041 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 7: and the championship roster, everybody slotted correctly. 1042 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at Cleveland Ferrell kind 1043 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: of the same thing, like him and Dietrich wise are 1044 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: probably going to be competing for snaps. 1045 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good, that's good. 1046 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want Cleveland playing a tonguecause of the 1047 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: injury history there. He's got that bump knee. 1048 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: But good player, solid player, and solid player. And then 1049 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: obviously you mentioned Sheldon Day and the depth that he provides. 1050 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: So it's great having those guys. And then the offensive 1051 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: sw of the football. We got Jerry mcnichos back who 1052 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: I am so excited about, kJ Osborne, Michael Dieter and 1053 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: Trent Scott, and that kind of rounds out the dump. 1054 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 7: Keep forgetting Tris Scott caught the first Testdown. Yeah, from 1055 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 7: old Jedi five. That's gonna be a trivia five years 1056 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 7: from now that everybody gets wrong, no doubt. Who cut 1057 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 7: the Terry McCord who caught the first testdowns, Jane day 1058 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 7: Teer McLain, Noah Brown gonna be on that list. Yeah, 1059 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 7: and being they gonna see the word Trent and Scott, 1060 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 7: No Pikey, I can't wait. 1061 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: That's awesome man. 1062 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean Jeremy McNichols talk about another 1063 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: guy that maybe just get enough credit for the attitude 1064 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: that he brings in the effort, the physical play style. 1065 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: And good for him too, man, Like I remember when 1066 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: I was with him in San Francisco, like he was 1067 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: you'd just been traded. 1068 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: From Tampa Bay. 1069 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: Like just keep forgetting how young you are? 1070 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm young, right? 1071 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: Could you play with some of these guys and they're 1072 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 3: just unbelievable. 1073 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Yeah, But it's crazy for me because I 1074 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: knew him when he was a rookie and that was 1075 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: in You're like nine, Yeah, so you're like, oh, yeah, 1076 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: time goes goes. It's obviously Trent Scott for that offensive 1077 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: line back death huge show. Really just I think a 1078 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: really tremendous job by out of here in the front office. 1079 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: In free agency, feeling out the roster, man, filling out 1080 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: the roster. 1081 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: Re signed everybody man, And you know, it feels like 1082 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: they've kind of positioned themselves both of the drafts, both 1083 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: of that third round for agency. 1084 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 3: And if I can say anything about this group that 1085 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 3: they bringing in, just. 1086 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 7: Attitude, like they all visual attitude, guys like I'm fining 1087 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 7: and flick we upon you attitude. 1088 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: They brought an attitude. 1089 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 8: I mean, they're gonna go out there and get the 1090 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 8: guys that fit what they're doing. So that's another thing 1091 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 8: too that stands out to me. We've been here, man, 1092 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 8: we was bringing guys in that we was like, so 1093 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 8: what are you gonna do for us? I mean, guys 1094 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 8: didn't even fit the skin. 1095 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 6: Didn't even fit the skin. You know, it's a. 1096 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 8: Joy's why I say, Man, you don't understand how being 1097 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 8: able to sit back and watch it now and see 1098 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 8: somebody do it right, you know what I mean? Because 1099 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 8: you really know, like a lot of us don't really 1100 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 8: dive that deep into what's going on outside of what 1101 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 8: we do. 1102 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 6: And that was me care less about. 1103 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 8: You know, I'm talking about this the other guys in 1104 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 8: the building, who's doing something outside of what I have 1105 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 8: to do my job. I'm pretty sure you you got 1106 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 8: one of the mind. You thinking about the damn cook. 1107 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 6: Made you bother everybody and anybody. But I personally came 1108 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 6: here and worked and went home. You see what I'm saying. 1109 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 3: I came to work. 1110 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 6: I came with my bearing. 1111 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 8: Shoes on, my loan Jordan Jersey shorts and a hoodie, 1112 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 8: and I was in and out and do rag on. 1113 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 6: That's how it came to work. 1114 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 8: You know, you you play with me, But I never 1115 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 8: thought about what it took for those guys to go 1116 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 8: in there and bring the guy to figure out the 1117 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 8: saw how many guys he brought in, And you be 1118 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 8: wondering why, Like god, we just playing a hundred million 1119 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 8: don't fit our defense, you. 1120 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 6: Know what I mean? Like I used to sit there 1121 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 6: and ask myself. 1122 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 7: Well, I ain't gonna beild a defense around if you're 1123 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 7: paying we brought him in for if he on the field. 1124 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 8: So now seeing the moves being made the first couple 1125 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 8: of years of having a real GM here, man, it's 1126 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 8: just it just shows you, man, like this is why 1127 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 8: the other teams are successful. This is why the Robins 1128 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 8: been where they've been at for years. They had somebody 1129 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 8: that position that was able to just say, this is 1130 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 8: what I do. I know how to go out there 1131 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 8: and pick the talent, and you guys got to coach 1132 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 8: them up. 1133 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a good way to end the show. Tanner, 1134 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: great job. Please make sure you liking to subscribe wherever 1135 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. As always, we appreciate the comments 1136 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: and uh, that's it.