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Speaker 2: Seton well, kind to.
Speaker 3: Find the right words for this one, because right now,
Speaker 3: one of the big storylines coming out of Sunday is
Speaker 3: that the tournament seating is getting a lot of criticism. Yes, so,
Speaker 3: would you rather have tournament. The seting priority be essentially
Speaker 3: ranking the team's best to worst, or would you rather
Speaker 3: them play with it a bit for the best matchups
Speaker 3: along the way.
Speaker 4: I like the best matchups, even if.
Speaker 3: It means, say, if you're Iowa State, you kind of
Speaker 3: got screwed.
Speaker 2: Well, they know if they're going to have them as
Speaker 2: a number one seed, that's different.
Speaker 4: Then we're going to manipulate.
Speaker 2: I think Texas A and M plays Nebraska in both
Speaker 2: the men's and women's tournament. Now, keep this in mind,
Speaker 2: Nebraska's athletic director just left what school do you think
Speaker 2: he went to Texas A and M. Trev Alberts, former
Speaker 2: college player at Nebraska, played a little bit in the NFL.
Speaker 2: He was the athletic director at Nebraska. Now he's going
Speaker 2: to Texas A and M. Texas A and M and
Speaker 2: Nebraska in the men's in women's tournaments are playing one another.
Speaker 2: But Iowa stayed. I thought I was stay good enough
Speaker 2: to be a number one seed. That was a little
Speaker 2: bit surprising. Yeah, Poe, I.
Speaker 5: Know we've had people on before who worked for the
Speaker 5: committee who said that one of their rationales in setting
Speaker 5: up the tournament is matchups. Matchups that people talk about
Speaker 5: in storylines. You asked one of the people years ago,
Speaker 5: and you've talked about this. When Bob Knight went to
Speaker 5: Texas Tech, they made sure that there was a chance
Speaker 5: that Texas Tech would face Indiana in round two of
Speaker 5: the NCAA tournament. So that was not a blind draw,
Speaker 5: that's a matchup draw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't I think manipulating the seeds though,
Speaker 2: I have a problem with that. If I was stayed
Speaker 2: earned it, then put I was stayed in there as
Speaker 2: a number, you know, one of the number one seeds.
Speaker 2: But as far as hey here's potential matchups here, we're
Speaker 2: going to do that. I believe the you know, the
Speaker 2: women's bracket, they won LSU and Iowa to play, and
Speaker 2: they're going to be on a collision course.
Speaker 4: They're in the same bracket. I was surprised at that.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe you could wait until maybe the Elite eight,
Speaker 2: maybe a final four. But like I would have had
Speaker 2: Iowa face USC because I love the Juju Watkins is
Speaker 2: the next star in women's college basketball. She already is
Speaker 2: a star, but that would have been fun to have
Speaker 2: the outgoing scoring champ with Juju Watkins coming in at USC.
Speaker 2: But I also want to see LSU in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: No love loss there, and then I'd like to see
Speaker 2: either Iowa against LSU, Iowa against South Carolina. Those are
Speaker 2: kind of fun matchups. There also the NIT. The NIT
Speaker 2: used to be the tournament. That's a long time ago.
Speaker 2: It was in the sixties, fifties and sixties. It was
Speaker 2: certainly the tournament to be in. Then the NCAA came
Speaker 2: in and then March Madness happened. It exploded, and the
Speaker 2: NIT struggled to survive. And I always thought, if we
Speaker 2: didn't make the tournament one of the sixty eight best
Speaker 2: teams and I wanted to already get a head start
Speaker 2: for next year, than I would play in the n
Speaker 2: IT because it allows us to continue to practice. We're
Speaker 2: gonna play games. Maybe we get a chance to play
Speaker 2: for a championship. Okay, it's not the NCAA and it's
Speaker 2: the NIT.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Tom Crean, former coach now on analyst for the Mothership,
Speaker 2: had this to say about the schools that don't want
Speaker 2: to play in the NIT.
Speaker 6: There's no question about it. I would want to coach,
Speaker 6: I would want to develop my team. You've got bigger
Speaker 6: staffs than you've ever had. There's plenty of time for
Speaker 6: the portal, there's plenty of time to talk to recruits,
Speaker 6: there's plenty of time to negotiate nil deals. There's not
Speaker 6: plenty of time for guys to continue to play that
Speaker 6: may never get to play again. And that, to me
Speaker 6: is absolutely ridiculous. It's each coach is choice. I get it,
Speaker 6: but you take away a chance to play the games.
Speaker 7: To put your team on the floor. Let them opt out?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 7: The bullseason has it all the time. Let it happen.
Speaker 7: Who cares?
Speaker 6: Give your players and coaches a chance to keep coaching
Speaker 6: and playing, and don't short change.
Speaker 7: If I got want to play, go sit out. If
Speaker 7: a coach doesn't want to coach, go recruit.
Speaker 6: But there's got to be enough people to put five, six,
Speaker 6: seven people on the floor and go play.
Speaker 7: Makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 2: That's Tom Crean, former head coach and certainly passionate about this.
Speaker 2: So far, I think there's seven schools that have turned
Speaker 2: the opportunity down. Pittsburgh is one, Saint John's is one.
Speaker 2: You also have Memphis, Ole, miss Oklahoma, Indiana, Syracuse. They
Speaker 2: already said they weren't going to play in the n
Speaker 2: we have players who don't want to play in bowl games.
Speaker 2: This is almost that version of it that, hey, we
Speaker 2: don't want to play in this game. It's not important enough.
Speaker 2: But I always thought, if I'm a coach and I
Speaker 2: can get playing time for some of my kids who
Speaker 2: are going to be playing for me next year, then
Speaker 2: why not take advantage of that? And you're gonna have
Speaker 2: This is the feeling I got that some of these
Speaker 2: coaches maybe covered for their players because the players didn't
Speaker 2: want to play. You know, Rick Patino, he talked about
Speaker 2: not playing in the n I T And I think
Speaker 2: he was trying to cover up for his his players
Speaker 2: because it felt Rick would coach right now. He'd go
Speaker 2: out in our field house here, he'd coach a three
Speaker 2: on three game, He'd coach anywhere. Hey, coach, we got
Speaker 2: the championship game of the au A. A, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 7: What time?
Speaker 2: He loves to coach. You got a chance to play
Speaker 2: in the garden. You're Saint John's, you're still building that program.
Speaker 2: Rick would want to coach. He would, and his players
Speaker 2: maybe didn't want to, and sometimes you have to listen
Speaker 2: to them. But I would try to use that you
Speaker 2: get more practice time. Maybe you get a player too
Speaker 2: who's going to be a star for you, potential star,
Speaker 2: and you get a chance to have a bigger, better
Speaker 2: opportunity there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Mark, do you think for some of those programs
Speaker 9: it's a program entitlement? Like where's Syracuse? We're too good?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Didn't Notre Dame turn down the Pinstripe Bowl. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago they're like, nah, North Carolina turned
Speaker 2: down the NIT I think a couple of years ago, Syracuse,
Speaker 2: Saint John's, Pittsburgh they're like, no, we should be in
Speaker 2: the tournament. And I think that's the hard part to
Speaker 2: get over because but they all had their chances. Seaton
Speaker 2: Hall had their chance, Saint John's had a chance, Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: had a chance. They all had a chance to be
Speaker 2: able to play. It's sixty eight schools. You didn't make it,
Speaker 2: all right, you can still play? Hey, do you want
Speaker 2: to still play basketball? That's what is the surprising part
Speaker 2: of this, And it's maybe you know, the kids say no,
Speaker 2: we don't want to play anymore, okay, But it feels
Speaker 2: like Rick Pattino was saying, Hey, you know what, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get ready for next season. Okay, getting ready for
Speaker 2: next season would be we can still practice because now
Speaker 2: they can't now their season's over.
Speaker 4: Yes, Tod, what are you arrogant and too good about?
Speaker 10: You know maybe yesteryear, but you didn't make the tournament,
Speaker 10: so you're obviously not too good. You didn't make the tournament.
Speaker 10: And I think it's a no lose proposition other than
Speaker 10: the fact that it looks arrogant to turn down the NIT.
Speaker 10: If you play well and you destroy everybody, then you're
Speaker 10: proving to everybody you played with a chip on your shoulder.
Speaker 10: We should have been in the tournament. If you lose,
Speaker 10: then that proves even more that you didn't belong in
Speaker 10: the NCA tournament. If you bow out of the n H.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we see teams college football teams when they
Speaker 2: play in bowl games and they're not really into it
Speaker 2: and then they lose, I can't say, well, that shows
Speaker 2: that they weren't that good. I mean, you have to
Speaker 2: want to play like you truly want to play and
Speaker 2: want to win a championship. It's the NIT. You're playing
Speaker 2: in New York Madison Square Garden. Eventually that has value
Speaker 2: to it. And another case, you know, opportunity to showcase
Speaker 2: your Talentshi, if you want to.
Speaker 4: Play in the NBA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seed, What if the NIT winner was guaranteed a
Speaker 3: spot next year in the tournament, in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: I don't think the NCAA cares about the NIT. I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, because they kind of coexist. But the nc
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA is really trying to put the NIT out of business.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they go to ninety six teams, they're
Speaker 2: really saying, NIT, thanks for the memories.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Paul Rick Patino added that one of the reasons they
Speaker 5: passed on the n IT bid is to focus on
Speaker 5: the transfer portal because the season is over for them
Speaker 5: and because they need seven or eight new players for
Speaker 5: next season and they have to get to work on
Speaker 5: recruiting and.
Speaker 7: Hitting the point.
Speaker 5: M Okay, we say to those guys, have a lot
Speaker 5: of play in the n IT because they're not to
Speaker 5: be jettisoned.
Speaker 4: We say, good morning.
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Speaker 4: Poll question for hour two Seaton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna put up the one about seating. Which
Speaker 3: you'd rather have it based on, like resume or matchups?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 4: Marvin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they should probably blame schools like NC State,
Speaker 9: who weren't even bubble teams. They were going to the
Speaker 9: n and they ended up winning their conference champion. So
Speaker 9: I definitely hurt a lot of the bubble teams.
Speaker 2: There were probably three or four conference champions that really
Speaker 2: mess things up for a couple of schools.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is probably a really dumb question, but I
Speaker 3: asked those a lot.
Speaker 4: But aren't the.
Speaker 3: NIT and the NCAA tournament all run by the same people.
Speaker 3: They're both NCAA tournaments.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the NCAA really cares about March madness because
Speaker 2: they can make a lot of money.
Speaker 4: I'll just say it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch
Speaker 3: to get them to like, hey, what if we try
Speaker 3: to figure this out together and instead of adding going
Speaker 3: to ninety six teams, we just make the n a
Speaker 3: little more valuable or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Easy with a thoughtful analysis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, you're right, it makes way more sense.
Speaker 4: Easy with the measures.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they are battling it out with each other
Speaker 3: to like bankrupt.
Speaker 4: Easy with the measured comments. Yeah, yeah, my bad. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 2: Let me get some phone calls in here. Jay Billis
Speaker 2: will join us, coming up. Let me see Joey and Minnesota. Hi, Joey,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey back again this Monday. Dan, happy to be here.
Speaker 11: Tyler hooked me up, drove my daughter to the parade
Speaker 11: this weekend. Got to meet all you boys, get some photos,
Speaker 11: and just had a blast.
Speaker 8: I got a couple bests besides that. Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 11: Man, this guy is out of this world. He's won
Speaker 11: ten million dollars already this year. I'd love for you
Speaker 11: guys to do a career salary so we can sweeze
Speaker 11: one of those in. That's pretty much all I got.
Speaker 11: I missed Marvin this weekend.
Speaker 12: I did not miss Todd.
Speaker 4: No, okay, I saw Joey.
Speaker 2: He was outside the baseball park as we ended the
Speaker 2: parade there. Scotty Scheffler. Since January first, at twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two fifty one tournaments, nine wins, thirty four top tens,
Speaker 2: twenty two top threes, he's earned forty six million dollars,
Speaker 2: and over those fifty one starts, he's five hundred and
Speaker 2: forty under far.
Speaker 8: It's out of the day start of the day.
Speaker 7: Start of the day, Scota daay, start of day, Start
Speaker 7: of the day, Start of the day.
Speaker 2: By the way, Rory McElroy can take a little bit
Speaker 2: of credit for Scotti Scheffler because he turned him onto
Speaker 2: this mallet putter that he's been using and he has
Speaker 2: been crushing. He made nine straight one putts, went sixteen
Speaker 2: of sixteen on putts inside fifteen feet and he goes
Speaker 2: back to back Arnold Palmer in the Players Championship. All right, uh,
Speaker 2: Rocky in New Mexico. Hi, rock what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: How you doing? DP?
Speaker 7: Great?
Speaker 12: All right? First time long time five eight two hundo
Speaker 12: and a hand size of six point five. All right. So,
Speaker 12: jan I sadly wanted to talk about your retirement. You know,
Speaker 12: we all understand. Yeah, we all understand that you're gonna
Speaker 12: You're gonna be done in three to four years. You're
Speaker 12: gonna hang it up now. I wanted to make a
Speaker 12: suggestion to you guys. I think what you guys should
Speaker 12: do when you leave Dan is create a spinoff show. Now,
Speaker 12: think about it. That's never been done before. If you
Speaker 12: guys can get Ross Tucker to carry the torch. The
Speaker 12: intro to the new show can be like from the
Speaker 12: creators of The Dan Patrick Show, Ross Tucker and the
Speaker 12: Dan at or something like that. Let me know what
Speaker 12: you guys think.
Speaker 4: All right, well, thank you, Rocky, Rocky looking out for
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 2: Do you think you guys could work with Ross Tucker
Speaker 2: every single day?
Speaker 4: Todd, do you think you could?
Speaker 12: I love Ross absolutely?
Speaker 4: Okay, Marvin, of course, Okay, Paul, he is easy to
Speaker 4: work with. Okay, he's great. He's a great guy.
Speaker 5: He's just like Tyler Perry Presents. Oh okay, I like
Speaker 5: that under the same umbrella.
Speaker 3: Medea, yeah, media goes to the.
Speaker 4: Movies media Halloween.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, so Dan Patrick's Ross Tucker Show, that's what
Speaker 9: it's gonna be called. Or a Dan Patrick joint like
Speaker 9: Spike Lee Patrick joint.
Speaker 2: Okay, Jim in South Carolina? Hi, Jim, what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: Hey? Dan today?
Speaker 4: Great? Jim?
Speaker 12: All right, Well, I got a best and the worst
Speaker 12: for you.
Speaker 8: Hey.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 13: While start was the worst, that was North Carolina blowing
Speaker 13: the APC tight home Bridle as the state. However, the
Speaker 13: best was that.
Speaker 4: A Jim Jim Jim, are you at work?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys want to guess where Jim works Pauline.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing he's in the plumbing industry.
Speaker 4: Okay, Todd, Yeah, it did have a flushing kind of sound.
Speaker 3: Okay, it did sound like a toilet to me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it was actually a car going by, car
Speaker 3: going by. All right, Marvin, what's Jim do for a living?
Speaker 7: He's an electrician?
Speaker 4: Electrician? Okay, Jim, I'm a truck driver.
Speaker 13: I'm actually in my truck, but I'm having used.
Speaker 7: My blue suit.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well.
Speaker 13: Anyway, Well, my best one weekend is North Carolina rebounty
Speaker 13: for last year's the Bottle and not only making the
Speaker 13: tournament but being a number one seed, which I'm not
Speaker 13: sure has ever been done before. Maybe Paulie would like
Speaker 13: to research.
Speaker 12: That and that would be a semi stat of the day.
Speaker 4: Okay, what are we researching?
Speaker 9: I think he said North Carolina not making the tournament
Speaker 9: then being in number one seed the next season, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's pretty amazing the disaster last year to
Speaker 2: where they are this year.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, sneaky truck driver with a semi stat of the.
Speaker 7: Bloop bloop job I had.
Speaker 2: I don't think he realized that semi stat of the
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Speaker 1: Jim?
Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call. It's I'm in Plied del
Speaker 14: Ray first time long time, six one two hundred nine
Speaker 14: and a half inches, San Diego State. I have a
Speaker 14: stat of the day. March eighteenth, nineteen sixty eight, Will
Speaker 14: Chamberlain recorded the first and only unofficial quintuple double. He
Speaker 14: had fifty three points, thirty two rebounds, fourteen assists, twenty
Speaker 14: four blocks, and eleven steals.
Speaker 4: I thank Jim, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Was that the Was that a quadruple or a Quinn
Speaker 2: couple that he was talking about?
Speaker 4: Double Dodd? Did you pick up on that too? He
Speaker 4: Quinn Tupple.
Speaker 2: So the music got him there. He ran out of
Speaker 2: ran out of time. Maybe we'll research that now.
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 2: March eighth, nineteen sixty eight with Will Chamberlain. March eighteenth?
Speaker 2: Is that what it was?
Speaker 8: Marv?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: So today, by the way, I think I celebrated Saint
Speaker 2: Patty's Day Friday and Saturday and Sunday. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that Sunday was Saint Patty's day until I walked by
Speaker 2: a pub and all of a sudden, I got friends
Speaker 2: in there, and they're like, come on in.
Speaker 4: I go, what are you guys doing. I go to
Speaker 4: Saint Patty's Day.
Speaker 3: I go, Oh, my liver's already so sore.
Speaker 2: I already went. I already went to Minneapolis Saint Paul.
Speaker 2: I already celebrated Friday and Saturday. By the way, when
Speaker 2: you go out with guys who drink for a living,
Speaker 2: keeper's heart, they're good at what they do. They yeah,
Speaker 2: are veterans, Yes they are. That's why Dylan had a
Speaker 2: great time, because he's he could work for a liquor company.
Speaker 2: All right, let me take a break. Jay Billis will
Speaker 2: join us. Coming up next, more phone calls as well.
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Speaker 2: On March eighteenth, nineteen sixty eight, Will Chamberlain recorded a
Speaker 2: quintuple double fifty three points, thirty two rebounds, fourteen assists,
Speaker 2: twenty four blocks, eleven steals. He's believed to be the
Speaker 2: only player to have ever achieved the elusive quintuple double.
Speaker 2: Why is it that we value and honor Babe Ruth
Speaker 2: stats but not Wilt Chamberlain's. It just feels like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but that was Wilt, whereas Babe Ruth were like man
Speaker 2: he won nearly one hundred games pitching and hit seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen. Wilt just feels like, Yeah, that wasn't real.
Speaker 2: But imagine twenty four blocks in a game. I don't
Speaker 2: know when they started with keeping stats like steals.
Speaker 4: I think was in the early eighties.
Speaker 2: I don't know about blocks, but it's kind of like
Speaker 2: sacks in the NFL. I don't know how many block
Speaker 2: shots Bill Russell and Wil Chamberlain actually had, but we're
Speaker 2: watching victor Ian Bayama. I think he had seven blocks
Speaker 2: in the game yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yes, Palling block shots became an official NBA stat for
Speaker 5: the seventy three seventy four season, the first year Wilt
Speaker 5: Chamberlain was out of basketball.
Speaker 2: Mmm coincidence. He was a defensive minded guy back then
Speaker 2: later in his career with the Lakers. Jay billis ESPN
Speaker 2: college basketball analyst. He was on the call for NC
Speaker 2: State the ACC Conference title game over North Carolina. He
Speaker 2: joins us on the program, how many career blocks do
Speaker 2: you think you had?
Speaker 8: A duke? Me blocking somebody else's shot or my shot.
Speaker 4: Well blocked?
Speaker 8: I said, I promise you I set a record.
Speaker 4: Well, you were an undersized center though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, undersized, under athletic, under everything.
Speaker 4: Were you underestimated though?
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, probably? Well, look I underestimate myself.
Speaker 4: What do you have, Paulie?
Speaker 5: In four years at Duke, I have j Billis with
Speaker 5: thirty seven career blocks.
Speaker 2: Wow, they didn't keep the stat of how many times
Speaker 2: his shot was blocked.
Speaker 4: Now I'm looking for it.
Speaker 8: Okay, it was more than that. Yeah, it was more
Speaker 8: than that. But I was a position defender, Dan. I
Speaker 8: was like the cover corner. They didn't grow towards, so
Speaker 8: I didn't have to block a lot of shots. Okay,
Speaker 8: you were like a Darrell Reevis. Nobody was going in
Speaker 8: your direction, no question, I mean it was I got
Speaker 8: my work done early.
Speaker 4: As they said, Billis island there all right.
Speaker 2: So when you first saw the bracket, the first thing
Speaker 2: that jumped down was what that Yukon had.
Speaker 8: A really difficult bracket and there are a ton of
Speaker 8: conference champions in their bracket. I still think they're the
Speaker 8: best team and they'll come out of there. And I
Speaker 8: thought Purdue had the easiest route for a number one seeds.
Speaker 8: It's set up pretty well for them to get out
Speaker 8: of there. But it's not like they don't have challenges
Speaker 8: everybody has challengers, but they're not facing a team that
Speaker 8: can uptempple them and turn them over, which I think
Speaker 8: is one of the problems that they may face.
Speaker 2: Felt like the reaction was the seating that certain schools
Speaker 2: conferences that may be too high too low. Your thoughts
Speaker 2: on any objections there, Yeah.
Speaker 8: I think there were a few seating issues, but some
Speaker 8: of it had to do with I'm sure their bracketing principles.
Speaker 8: I mean I thought, I kind of think Dan when
Speaker 8: they say, well, you know, the Yukon region, the East region,
Speaker 8: Yukon chose to be in that region, and then we
Speaker 8: put everybody else in there based upon geography the closest
Speaker 8: teams to that. And you know the first thing I
Speaker 8: think of this, Wait a minute, USC and UCLA are
Speaker 8: the big ten. Now they got to flat a record
Speaker 8: for regular seat in the game, and you're worried about
Speaker 8: geography for an NCAA tournament game. You know, that doesn't
Speaker 8: make any sense to me. I think you seed it
Speaker 8: according to the best teams, and you balance it as
Speaker 8: well as you can. You don't want to be insensitive
Speaker 8: to travel. You want to send you know, somebody out
Speaker 8: across country for no reason. When they're the same as
Speaker 8: somebody else. But I tend to think, just do it
Speaker 8: on a strict s curve and put them in the bracket.
Speaker 8: Let's play this for the national championship, not to be
Speaker 8: you know, so that some fans have a bus drip.
Speaker 2: Any issue with setting up matchups? You know, I always
Speaker 2: think of Texas Tech in Indiana when Bob Knight was
Speaker 2: at Texas Tech, like the potential for an interesting matchup.
Speaker 2: Any issues with the committee doing that.
Speaker 8: They say that they don't do it. I have a
Speaker 8: hard time believing that there are way too many coincidences
Speaker 8: that occur. There's nothing they can do about. You know,
Speaker 8: if you know Rick Barnes is going to beat up
Speaker 8: with Texas and the Sweet sixteen or the Elite eight,
Speaker 8: yeah you can't. I can't deal with that. But when
Speaker 8: you when they're on a collision course in the second round,
Speaker 8: or you know, things come up in the first round,
Speaker 8: you know they had a choice there.
Speaker 4: How many teams can realistic, realistically win it all?
Speaker 8: You know? I haven't really done that sort of thing
Speaker 8: this year because it was such a weird year. Usually
Speaker 8: it's around eight and I after looking at it, I
Speaker 8: think it's about that you know somebody else can sneak
Speaker 8: in there. There's a difference, Dan, I think in getting
Speaker 8: to a final four and winning a national championship. You know,
Speaker 8: when you get put into a regent with the Easter
Speaker 8: or Midwest, whatever, seventy five percent of the best teams
Speaker 8: in the tournament are not in your region, So if
Speaker 8: somebody falls down in your way, a lot of things
Speaker 8: can happen. But once you get to the final four,
Speaker 8: you know you're playing higher seeded, really good teams most
Speaker 8: of the time, and that's why we most often see
Speaker 8: the highest seeded teams win these things.
Speaker 2: Has Danny Hurley become the face of college basketball? Men's
Speaker 2: college basketball?
Speaker 8: He's getting there. He's the real deal. He's really an
Speaker 8: outstanding coach, and he's fun like he's he's kind of
Speaker 8: old school and how tough he is and demanding in
Speaker 8: practice and with his team. But then he's a normal
Speaker 8: joe off the court, and he's got these bizarre superstitions
Speaker 8: that are bordering on needing therapy, you know, like the
Speaker 8: underwear and socks and you know, wearing the hat that
Speaker 8: he wore last year before the first round, stuff like that.
Speaker 8: My favorite one was I don't know what they call
Speaker 8: these things. It's like these you're suspended. We were suspending
Speaker 8: some kind of liquid I think, and they closed it
Speaker 8: closed the it's almost like a coffin. You know, you're
Speaker 8: in there. What do it call sensory deprivation. Yeah, And
Speaker 8: he went in one of those things, and he thought
Speaker 8: it was going to be for an hour, and his
Speaker 8: staff had made the appointment for two hours. So after
Speaker 8: an hour, he thought he was trapped in there. And
Speaker 8: that would have been a good one to see Danny
Speaker 8: Hurley trying to fight his way out of that thing
Speaker 8: thinking he was trapped.
Speaker 2: He's Jay Bills, ESPN College Basketball analyst. We just noticed
Speaker 2: that the transfer portal is open in college basketball.
Speaker 4: Why why now? Why are they opening it while the
Speaker 4: tournament's going.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just sort of their timing for the way
Speaker 8: some of these school calendars work the way I understand it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: Look, the transfer portal overall is I think a good idea,
Speaker 8: but they could certainly regulate it better and have the
Speaker 8: dates work out a little better. I mean, I think
Speaker 8: you'll hear most coaches say that as soon as the
Speaker 8: season ends, they're busier than they were during the season.
Speaker 8: Because of the transfer portal, they're having to sift through
Speaker 8: and call a million people and evaluate players and all
Speaker 8: that stuff because that's become the new recruiting model, and
Speaker 8: it's impacted their high school recruiting. You're not seeing high
Speaker 8: school recruits valued as highly as they were five years ago.
Speaker 8: But that's just the nature of the business now. The
Speaker 8: NCAA put the rule in and they're having to live
Speaker 8: with it.
Speaker 2: Should we cap the number of years you can be
Speaker 2: eligible to play college basketball?
Speaker 8: Well, they do. It's basically you have you have four years,
Speaker 8: but they do make exceptions when you have like a
Speaker 8: catastrophic injury or illness or something like that. And then
Speaker 8: we've had over the last several years this extra COVID year,
Speaker 8: so you're seeing that. That's really the difference in seeing
Speaker 8: guys come back. I don't think you would have seen
Speaker 8: as many guys as many players stay and play if
Speaker 8: the COVID year and NIL didn't overlap. Like, there are
Speaker 8: a number of players going, why shouldn't I come back.
Speaker 8: I'm making a lot of money, and if I go
Speaker 8: into the into the NBA process, you know, maybe they
Speaker 8: put me in the G League or I have to
Speaker 8: go overseas or something like that. It may be better
Speaker 8: for them to go ahead and say so we're the nil.
Speaker 8: We've seen retention of players, which I can't imagine isn't
Speaker 8: a good thing for the NCAA. They get another year
Speaker 8: of service out of the players, even longer than that
Speaker 8: in some cases, and the players are getting more education,
Speaker 8: which they say they're about. So how can anybody complain
Speaker 8: about that?
Speaker 2: Trying to figure out Zach Edie that being the biggest
Speaker 2: big man in the tournament, but it's still about guard play,
Speaker 2: you know, Like, how do you assess I mean normally
Speaker 2: that that'd be the guy where you go, they got
Speaker 2: the big man, But I don't know, is it that
Speaker 2: much of a bonus for Purdue over everybody else?
Speaker 8: Well, I think you could have said that back in
Speaker 8: the day when big guys were more a focal point
Speaker 8: of the game. You know, Ralph Sampson played four years
Speaker 8: at Virginia and never won a title because the guys
Speaker 8: around him didn't hit shots when when they needed to.
Speaker 8: And Joe Barry Carroll was a great big guy at Purdue.
Speaker 8: We can go on and on about it. Now now
Speaker 8: UCLA won with big guys. Other team golling with big
Speaker 8: guys doesn't mean you can't win with it. But the
Speaker 8: game's changed, as you know, and you don't see many
Speaker 8: guys seven to four and that dominant. But Purdue has
Speaker 8: had a couple of problems in the last few years.
Speaker 8: Their guards. Last year refreshment, and they weren't the most
Speaker 8: athletic team around Edie. Edie was dominant against Barley Dickinson,
Speaker 8: but his teammates just didn't make shots. I don't think
Speaker 8: they're going to be subject to the same kind of
Speaker 8: upset this year, but they could get eat There's no
Speaker 8: question that somebody could clip them. And they could very
Speaker 8: well play Tennessee again. They played earlier this year and
Speaker 8: Purdue one in Maui. But I still think Purdue is
Speaker 8: a is a prohibited favorite to come out of that region.
Speaker 2: You've got some schools, some big name schools that are
Speaker 2: not going to compete in the n T you know,
Speaker 2: Saint John's and pitt and Syracuse. I always thought that
Speaker 2: that would help you for the following year. Get some
Speaker 2: of your younger players. They get an opportunity, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if these kids are just saying, look, we
Speaker 2: don't want to play in the n it Your thoughts
Speaker 2: on some of these coaches having to come out and say, look,
Speaker 2: we're preparing, you know, Rick Patina, we're preparing for next year.
Speaker 8: I don't know, Dan, I mean, I know, going to
Speaker 8: the n it T is a real downer and some
Speaker 8: teams go in it and they want to prove that
Speaker 8: if they, you know, they win the n i T,
Speaker 8: like there, it's going to be a big middle finger
Speaker 8: to the n SAA Tournament selection committee. And the truth
Speaker 8: is a selection may doesn't care. I mean, they care
Speaker 8: about the process, but they don't care if you win
Speaker 8: the n I T. And there are some teams that
Speaker 8: go in then I T they're disappointed. It's the end
Speaker 8: of the year and they go in and lay an
Speaker 8: egg and it wasn't worth the effort. So it just
Speaker 8: kind of depends how the I think, how the players feel.
Speaker 8: And you know, I kind of like that if the
Speaker 8: players are being taken into consideration, you know, I kind
Speaker 8: of like that they're being listened to, Like why go
Speaker 8: through all that if if you really don't want to
Speaker 8: play it? And look, I mean, what was the last
Speaker 8: time you you remember who won the n I T.
Speaker 8: I don't remember. I don't watch it. I shouldn't say
Speaker 8: that because it's on our network, but I don't watch it.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm focused on something else. It's a it's like
Speaker 8: these bowl games, you know, like I don't care who
Speaker 8: plays in the Poland Lead either Bowl. Maybe I maybe
Speaker 8: I'd bet on it with a friend of mine because
Speaker 8: there was nothing else to do. But I'm not watching it.
Speaker 4: If I gave you an all time final four, what
Speaker 4: would come to mind?
Speaker 8: All time final as far as the best one, Yeah,
Speaker 8: seventeen was great when Villanova beat North Carolina. I wind
Speaker 8: up thinking about moments more than anything. Like it's funny, Dan, Like,
Speaker 8: I don't really know what makes a great tournament. Like
Speaker 8: some tournaments where the play is off the charts good,
Speaker 8: but we don't have as many little guys winning, or
Speaker 8: there aren't many buzzer beaters. People say, well, there's been
Speaker 8: a blot tournament. I think people kind of expect that
Speaker 8: it's going to be crazy, and if it's not crazy,
Speaker 8: then it's not that entertaining. But then you get to
Speaker 8: the final four it if you don't have recognizable names,
Speaker 8: then people don't care for it either. So I'm not
Speaker 8: sure what's great. I just love seeing great teams play
Speaker 8: and we get that just about every year, so I
Speaker 8: can't remember a bad year for the tournament. There was
Speaker 8: one year where Connecticut played Butler. I think it's twenty
Speaker 8: eleven played Butler in the final. It was probably the
Speaker 8: worst played final game ever. Nobody really seems to remember that.
Speaker 8: They just remember who wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I say this every year that we love the chaos
Speaker 2: and then get to the Elite eight final four. Then
Speaker 2: we went the blue bloods like, okay, that was nice.
Speaker 2: And if you do have the novelty or the Cinderella,
Speaker 2: then you want to see them go all the way
Speaker 2: and win it. Then it becomes a great story. But
Speaker 2: it'll probably be the same this year where there'll be
Speaker 2: upsets and it's crazy and madness, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're going to have four blue bloods. Do
Speaker 2: you have a Cinderella team to keep an eye on?
Speaker 2: There are a few. I think Drake is one. I
Speaker 2: think New Mexico and Nevada are both very good teams.
Speaker 2: James Madison has a chance to pull an upset over Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: James Madison, I think they've only lost three times and
Speaker 2: beat Michigan State at Michigan State in November.
Speaker 8: But it's funny, Dan, because of all the upsets and
Speaker 8: the smaller conferences, the twelve through sixteen seeds aren't quite
Speaker 8: as powerful as they've been in other years. Maybe powerful
Speaker 8: is the wrong word, but the metrics say that they're
Speaker 8: not as big a threat. That doesn't mean individual teams
Speaker 8: like Drake out of the Missouri Valley Conference. They have
Speaker 8: Tucker Debriz who averages about twenty two a game. He's
Speaker 8: not quite as good as as Doug McDermott was at Creighton,
Speaker 8: but he's pretty damn good, and they can they can
Speaker 8: beat somebody. They're capable. McNee State is I'm not sure
Speaker 8: whether they're McNeice and now or McNeese State, but they're
Speaker 8: playing Gonzaga in the first round, and Gonzaga is still
Speaker 8: very good. They're not as good as they were the
Speaker 8: last couple of years, but McNeese can force a lot
Speaker 8: of turnovers and uh and they've got a player named
Speaker 8: Shahade Wells who can really take the ball from you.
Speaker 8: So they could be a threat. But I'm not sure.
Speaker 8: I'm seeing that many teams. But but I didn't see
Speaker 8: Saint Peter's ripping off all the games they won either
Speaker 8: you know, you just don't see you don't think of
Speaker 8: a fifteen seed, and even when you've watched them play,
Speaker 8: because sometimes they catch fire, like NC State in the
Speaker 8: uh in the a SEC tournament, I wouldn't have given
Speaker 8: you a nickel for their chance answers to win four games,
Speaker 8: let alone five. And it was one of the most
Speaker 8: amazing things I have ever seen and the most interesting
Speaker 8: thing for me in the first couple of days of
Speaker 8: the tournament are going to be is there any gas
Speaker 8: left in the tank for NC State after that? Because
Speaker 8: they're they're not only like banged up and injured, but
Speaker 8: I just can't imagine how emotionally drained. And then the
Speaker 8: NCAA gives a Thursday game they can't give a Freday.
Speaker 2: I had stephen A Smith on last hour and I said,
Speaker 2: who's the best shooter at ESPN taking away the NBA guys?
Speaker 2: And stephen A said, he's the best shooter in the building.
Speaker 2: I will give you the opportunity to answer that.
Speaker 8: You know, I am I am always interested in what
Speaker 8: sixty year old men are good at, because you know,
Speaker 8: it's so it's so like edifying for me to think
Speaker 8: that all of us are still really good at something like?
Speaker 8: Who cares? We're done? Man, I just want to make
Speaker 8: sure I can get out of this chair as soon
Speaker 8: as the interviews over without full down and hurting myself.
Speaker 8: So I'm not putting myself in any of these contests.
Speaker 8: I don't even play pickleball. I'm going to get injured
Speaker 8: playing pickleball. I want no part if that's going to
Speaker 8: affect my golf schedule. I'm not playing pickball. I don't care.
Speaker 4: See, you don't care if steven A is a better
Speaker 4: shooter than.
Speaker 8: You, No, why would I care about that. What I
Speaker 8: would care is if we're playing golf and there's money
Speaker 8: on the line, then I'd want to know how good
Speaker 8: he is. But he'd be the great guy to play
Speaker 8: against because he would go I am a plus four.
Speaker 8: That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. Well, we'll talk to you
Speaker 2: during the tournament. Thanks as always, Jay, Great to be
Speaker 2: with you, brother.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's j Bill as ESPN college basketball analyst. He was
Speaker 2: on the call for NC State against North Carolina and
Speaker 2: a big surprise there that certainly was all right, we'll
Speaker 2: take a break, have some phone calls coming up, right,
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Speaker 2: All right, time for hour best and Worst of the weekend, Todd,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you.
Speaker 7: Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 10: For best, North Carolina State taking down the tar Hill
Speaker 10: Saturday night in the ACC Conference Final five wins and
Speaker 10: five nights, their first conference championship in thirty seven years.
Speaker 12: Good job by them going on that run.
Speaker 10: Worst also on side of the one seed Houston getting
Speaker 10: humiliated in the Big twelve title game by the seven
Speaker 10: seed of Iowa State. They were down by as much
Speaker 10: as thirty lost by twenty eight sixty nine for the.
Speaker 4: Cyclones forty one for the Koogs.
Speaker 3: See no counter my worst of the weekend Seaton Hall
Speaker 3: got screwed. They should have been in the tournament. My
Speaker 3: best of the weekend the stakes that we had in
Speaker 3: Minneapolis Saturday night.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was a place called Manny's at Manny's. Yes, that's
Speaker 3: that's a hell of a place. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah they do, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: Did you have a worst of the weekend?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'd be happy to repeat it. My worst of
Speaker 3: the weekend, Seaton All they should have been in the tournament. Yeah, Marvin,
Speaker 3: how about you?
Speaker 9: Best of the weekend is Temple taking probably Seaton Hall
Speaker 9: spot in the tournament. They won the AAC tournament.
Speaker 4: That's your best?
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's madness, okay, rude, okay, I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker 4: Seating is right behind you.
Speaker 9: Oh see, And I'm sorry. It's all love though. Really
Speaker 9: that's my best of the weekend. Worst of the weekend
Speaker 9: Julius Rollins from Kent State. Kent State goes up by
Speaker 9: one with five seconds left. Julius Rollins intentionally files he
Speaker 9: didn't know the score right, he lost count time and score.
Speaker 9: He did not know it, and he filed the Akron
Speaker 9: player acronplayer. His two free throws, Kent State loses the
Speaker 9: mac Championship and they're out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. His coach was like, what you He's holding his head, like,
Speaker 4: what are you doing?
Speaker 7: What'd you just do?
Speaker 4: PAULI bestin worst.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he's glad to get the shout out by
Speaker 5: Marvin A national radio TV too, very thoughtful best of
Speaker 5: the weekend.
Speaker 7: This is a steaky one.
Speaker 5: Dodgers Shoheyotani could play in the field this season. Dave
Speaker 5: Roberts of the LA Dodgers gave an update on Tohani.
Speaker 5: He's going to start a light throwing program as he
Speaker 5: ramps up. He's not going to pitch this year, but
Speaker 5: that might allow him even to play in the outfield
Speaker 5: at a certain points. But there's been a lot of
Speaker 5: good news about his arm health and his possibility of
Speaker 5: pitching again. And I wonder if there's going to be
Speaker 5: based off Otani and this doctor out there, maybe in
Speaker 5: three or four years. Tommy John surgery is not a year,
Speaker 5: it's four months. I remember Dan, when we were younger,
Speaker 5: ACL surgery meant maybe your career was over for a
Speaker 5: Gail Sayers, but then an Adrian Peterson a year later
Speaker 5: is rushing for two thousand yards. I just think that
Speaker 5: maybe five years from now. Tommy John surgery is a setback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the same doctor operated on Aaron Rodgers operated
Speaker 2: on Shohyo Ton.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And maybe achilles could be six months instead of a year.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My worst of the weekend.
Speaker 5: This is a toughye. The women's college basketball tournament. Now,
Speaker 5: when you're putting together Iowa and LSU, which you want
Speaker 5: to see play again, they put them in the same regional,
Speaker 5: which means it's likely that Iowa and LSU will face
Speaker 5: each other in Nancay Tournament in the Elite eight, which
Speaker 5: is nice and it's probably a probably the smart thing
Speaker 5: to ensure they play each other. But the entire country
Speaker 5: wanted to see LSU and Iowa in a rematch in
Speaker 5: the final four or the final game. They didn't want
Speaker 5: to take the risk. And I think the downside is worse.
Speaker 5: Either LSU or i will not make the final four
Speaker 5: this year. Yea, and that is I think a big
Speaker 5: mistake by the seating committee.
Speaker 2: I you can thank me later. But the first pitch
Speaker 2: thrown out in the Dodgers game in South Korea, the
Speaker 2: person throwing out the first pitch almost looks like it's ai,
Speaker 2: like it's the person's not real, But she is real.
Speaker 2: She's an actress in South Korea. But I just know
Speaker 2: that every Dodger player was interested in this, this actress
Speaker 2: throwing out the person. Very engaged, very very engaged. I
Speaker 2: think everybody was looking to shoot their shot there with
Speaker 2: the actress. Yes, but she's an actresses the pitch though,
Speaker 2: who cares?
Speaker 4: That's not getting a lot of cop who cares? Nobody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody was happier to hear that news than Todd
Speaker 2: when I came in today.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she appears to be made of porcelain or some
Speaker 10: kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't look real, but she's an actress, famous actress,
Speaker 2: I guess in South Korea.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 4: Final results of the Pole question for hour two.
Speaker 3: I'd be happy to give you that, Dan, all right,
Speaker 3: we've got up there. Would you prefer the priority for
Speaker 3: tournament seating BT teams right best to worst or the
Speaker 3: best matchups?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 3: Best to worst is winning with eighty three percent of vote. Okay,
Speaker 3: people would rather that over more interesting matchup?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the more interesting matchups happen in the
Speaker 2: second round. Hey, if you win and they win, and
Speaker 2: then you're going to meet this team that coach is
Speaker 2: going to coach against his former school. You know, a
Speaker 2: player who played at North Carolina now maybe playing for Arizona.
Speaker 4: They might meet each other, yes.
Speaker 10: Time like that Texas Tennessee game a long time Texas
Speaker 10: coach Rick Barnes. If Texas and Tennessee win their first game,
Speaker 10: they'll play each other in the round two. So that's fun.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 2: Hour two in the books, we'll check in with the
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4: They had a good weekend.