1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. As we inch closer 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to the end of at the beginning of one, we're 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: still sticking with strange news, and what a time to 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: have a segment like this. We've got some green slime 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: in the mix, We've got an actual monolith in the mix. 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: No one knows that's from. And uh, we have what 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: I would loosely call the future of cannibalism. But it depends, 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: It depends on which experts you want to listen to. 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: So let's see where where where do we start here? 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: I like the mystery of the monolith. What do you 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: guys think? I don't know, I'm I'm hungry. First of all, 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: it's just not not to spoiler alert anything. Is this 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: like a beyond human type situation, because that'd be cool. 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: What if someone manufactured a meat that was cruelty free, 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: not actually human meat, but tasted just like human meat would, 24 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: so we could all give it a taste without the guilt. 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I feel like so much happening in that realm right 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: now while we're talking about it. Alright, alright, I can 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: read the room, I can read the zoom. Did I 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: nail it? Because I just pulled that out of I 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: don't know anything about what the story is. Yeah, I 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: don't believe, you know, but let's get started. That's that's 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: is great because a long time ago, as is set 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: up for this um in our YouTube days, uh Matt 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: and I were around for the debut of lab grown meat, 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: which could was you know, had a ton of problems 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: because it's still in r D phase, but did pose 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: a potential alternative to the u n's plan to combat 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: lack of protein and diets. The u n's plan was 38 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: that everybody should normalize eating insects. And I've eaten some 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: delicious insects. I know that statement might come back to 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: haunt me. But but the lab grown stuff had a problem. 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: We also found what turned out to be a fake website, 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: uh that said it was based in Highlands. It purported 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: that it would allow people to order human meat legally 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: and you could try it out. Do you remember that 45 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: one beat? God, it's been a minute. Um, yeah, but 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember that specific site. I don't remember the name. 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Would that be like if you were maybe an organ donor, 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: you would donate some of your flesh to like a 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: fine culinary person suit. I feel like there should be 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: a box you could take that would allow you know, 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I would like to be eaten please. You know, not 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: too long ago, there was an artist to add some 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: folks together to eat a foot with him. I think 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: it was his foot too, And that kind of stuff 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: is definitely an a liminal space. It's a legal gray 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: area because the the guy consented to share his foot 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: with his very weird friends who consented to eat eat 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: When Michael Scott accidentally grilled his foot on the George Foreman. 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: That was a classic episode of the Office. Oh I 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: found it quick amendment. The thing is referring to from 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: years back was who Fo. It was marketed as tofu 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: designed to resemble human flesh and taste and texture, but 63 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: it was it was kind of a joke, right, that's 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: not the case anymore. We would like to introduce you 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: to our first strange news story today, the ural Bordhist steak. 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: That's steak s T A K not snake s n 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: a K e h fellow can spiracy realist will of 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: course remember that the oro Boros snake is that famous 69 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: iconic snake which is consuming its tail in in uh 70 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: continual pattern of eating and being eaten. Uh. Kind of 71 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: like capitalism, I guess you could say, or the nature 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: of reality, you know, circle of life, etcetera. But the steak, 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: which is named after that ancient Egyptian symbol is human 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: steak caveat caveat Asterix fine prints. Uh. Here, here's what happened. 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: So the oorro Boris steak is the brainchild of three people, 76 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Pelling, Grace Night and Orcan Telhat. It first appeared 77 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. It is meat, and 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: it is based on human cells. It's meant to be 79 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: a critique of the environmental protection arguments of the larger 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: cell based meat industry. So here's what's going on. The 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: stories years back about ab grown meat. They when you 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: delve into the science of it, Essentially, the issue is 83 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: this that cultured meat still relies on a meat source. 84 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: It relies on a liquid with the unfortunate name fetal 85 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: bovine serum or FBS. So we don't continually gross ourselves 86 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: out during this episode. FBS is a protein rich growth 87 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: liquid that's used for cell cultures. It comes from the 88 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: blood of calf fetuses, so it's not it's not all, 89 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: you know, a shiny utopian future there. So FBS has 90 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to be acquired from the fetuses, and that means the 91 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: pregnant cow mothers are slaughtered for the meat industry. And 92 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: then this FBS is taken from those unborn unborn calves, 93 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: and this makes it pretty expensive. We're talking nine a leader, 94 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: So if you wanted a two leader of this to 95 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: be eight dollars, just so you can picture Coca cola 96 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: equivalent in your mind. Does it keep you young forever? 97 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Is it sort of like bathing in baby's blood or 98 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: something like that, or any efficacious qualities or is it 99 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: just delicious? It's just a potential alternative to the current 100 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: livestock and slaughter industry, right uh. And for a long time, 101 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: this sector, this idea of cultured meat has been in 102 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: a very tense position. A lot of academics have criticized 103 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: it because they say, look, you're not really helping, you're 104 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: encouraging these environmentally destructive industries because the stuff you make 105 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: depends on this FBS. A couple of studies shot back 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, well it could be more climate friendly, 107 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: but we just need more data before we make any 108 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: predictions regarding the longer term consequences. So back to the 109 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: people who created this quote unquote human steak. Andrew Pelling 110 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: is a scientist. He's one of the primary creators of this, 111 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: and in an earlier interview he said, look, this FBS 112 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: fetal bovine serum cost a lot more than you might think, 113 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: and it also cost these animals lives. And even though 114 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: some of these alternative lap grown meat companies have said 115 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: they've solved the problem, there's no independent, pure reviewed scientific 116 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: study giving weight to that claim. So the oro boris 117 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: steak is growing through a similar process. Here's here's what 118 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: they can do. They could you could literally right now, 119 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: take take a little scraper or Q tip and gather 120 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: some cells from the inside of your cheek, and then 121 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: that could be used to grow this kind of steak. 122 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: But the ones that you will see in the news 123 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: or in these art exhibits. Those are created from tissues 124 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: purchased from the American Tissue culture stock, which is apparently 125 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: a thing. And they're fed with a serum made from 126 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: old donated blood and they grow without this fetal bovine serum. 127 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: And what's need is you can find a website for 128 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: this product. I would love it if you guys pull 129 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: up and check this out along with me. It's called 130 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: oru chef dot com. All one word O U r 131 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: O chef dot com. So their argument, their argument is 132 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that though they have an Instagram, too delightful about following that. 133 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Uh So, their argument is that we can one day 134 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: supply everything we need to create cultivated food from our 135 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: own cells. You can imagine one of the first problems 136 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: with this, just similar to the question you proposed, NOL, 137 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: is this cannibalism? Is it? We did an episode on cannibalism. 138 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the consumables under. My question is 139 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: is cannibalism inherently wrong or against nature? Or is it 140 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: only because of the murder aspect of it that makes 141 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: it wrong? Shout out to x files. I don't know, 142 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: but you guys. But that introduced me to the idea 143 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: in younger days. Yeah, so cannibalism. We have a whole 144 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: episode on this For people who are interested, cannibalism occupies 145 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: a very weird space in human civilization. In some cultures, 146 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: consuming the flesh of another is a profound spiritual act, 147 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, like some uh for that X Files episode 148 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,239 Speaker 1: or the concerns about prions and so called mac how disease. Uh, 149 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: there are cultures where parts of people's bodies, like their brains, 150 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: would be consumed in funeral old rights. But then for 151 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: anybody who automatically thinks cannibalism is somehow an evil thing, 152 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: I would point out that there are a couple of 153 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: religions that literally like codified cannibalism communion, right, especially if 154 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: you are a member of one of the one of 155 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: the parts of Christianity that believes in what's called transubstantiation. 156 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Communion is literally eating the flesh and drinking the blood 157 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ. And that's not a conspiracy. That's like 158 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: how it's written, that's what you are supposed to believe. 159 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: There's a great bit on Family Guy back when it 160 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: was funny, where he's like and then and then when 161 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: Jesus rises from the dead, defeast on the flesh of 162 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: the living, and we drink his blood and it's a 163 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: whole like vampire zombie thing about Jesus. I thought it 164 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: was funny. It's probably highly offensive to some listeners. Please 165 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: forgive me. It's the family guy, but it's true. It's 166 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Ben, So how do you reconcile that 167 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: with the right and also if you're eating We talked 168 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: about this to the technical name would be auto cannibalism, right, 169 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I I remember um that. I think it was you 170 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and I who got into this, when we really got 171 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: deep into we were just like, man, we're really into 172 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: auto cannibalism. Today, I've been on the show on the 173 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: episode because there are questions like people who this is 174 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: a bit gross. And I don't mean to call anybody 175 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: out who's like absent mindedly doing this while listening to 176 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: the segment today, but uh, is biting your fingernails? Chewing 177 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: your fingernails? Is that auto cannibalism for people who pick 178 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: their nose? And I know you're out there, is that 179 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: does that approach auto cannibalism? I guess it depends what 180 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: you do with what you find in your nose. Yeah, 181 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's interesting contemplating the difference in cell 182 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: types of you know, what you would be consuming. And 183 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: that's really what this, this entire orable o steak concept 184 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: is about, like the specific cells that are just being nurtured. 185 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting. But if you keep going on 186 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: the on some of the writing that's been done on this, 187 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: it's been uh it's pointing to a lot of other 188 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: places and companies that are attempting to make something like this, 189 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: but with cow meat or or chicken cells or other 190 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: animal cells, not just humans. Um. And I didn't realize 191 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: there was so much progress being made in this regard. 192 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty creepy and cool at the same time. Yeah, 193 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean the idea here is like what 194 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: if you could, what if you could end suffering right 195 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: for animals that are literally raised to be slaughtered. If 196 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: you could and you could do so with little to 197 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: no inconvenience, then ethically it's pretty much the right thing 198 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: to do because at that point, if you have an 199 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: alternative and you cannot distinguish between that in the old 200 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: fashioned slaughtered meat, then your only value add is that 201 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: you like the idea of the animals being killed or tortured. 202 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: It becomes pretty clear ethically, but we're not there yet 203 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: because the science is the science is still a few 204 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: years away. Uh. An article in Tech Times brings us 205 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: to one of those alternatives. In the first steak growing 206 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: in a lab was made in Israel, and the people 207 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: who tried it said, look, we can't legally sell this yet, 208 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you, chef's kiss, this is amazing. 209 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: You can get a little you know, I mean, get 210 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: a little butter this bad boys and Rosemary. You're off 211 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: to the races because the left farms people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 212 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: this is this is the thing that kind of gross me. 213 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I was reading this earlier. Um, it kind of grosses 214 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: me out. But it's cool, Like they literally take I 215 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: think it's four different kinds of cells, right, so it's 216 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: like blood, vessels, muscles. I forget what the other two are, 217 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's four specific types of cells that they 218 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: just culture and grow into this flat little thing looks 219 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of like a flank steak. Um. And people say 220 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: it's delicious and it's real beef because it is. It's 221 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: just cells grown in a lab this time instead of 222 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: inside the cow. Do you ever have you guys ever 223 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: seen I love this when this happens, But have you 224 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: guys ever seen a business that uses unnecessary quotation marks 225 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: in their literature on their signs? It makes it so 226 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: automatically untrustworthy, you know what I mean? And to me 227 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: this feels like one of those cases like I would 228 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: be will be walking, You'll be walking down the street 229 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe in a few years in Tel Aviv or something, 230 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: and then you see a sign that's like, you know, 231 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: crazy bins, real burgers. How do you feel about the 232 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: self proclaimed best burger in town or or the state 233 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: or the world, or like world's best cup of coffee? Uh? 234 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like you need to be 235 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: able to present some credentials or some proof or people 236 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: just throwing this around willy nilly, Like what are your 237 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on this? You gotta site it, like how big 238 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: is the town? Did the mayor decide that? Or you know, 239 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: I think the way a lot of people get around 240 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: it is just popping And according to you know what 241 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like this is the best homemade bul golgie 242 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: on earth, double dash according to Ben's mom or something 243 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: like that. But at the same time, there's no I mean, 244 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I guess it could be considered false advertising, right, Oh yeah, 245 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: well yeah there's I mean, but who's going to enforce that? 246 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Whose job? Whose literal job is it to be such 247 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: a party pooper? You drive through streets and cities across 248 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: the country for grandiose claims about cups of coffee and burgers. 249 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: You know, you just ruined people's days. Sorry, Ethel, you're 250 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: upside down. Pineapple cake is okay, but it's not the best. 251 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Gertrude's is way better better by far, or put those 252 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. Maybe somebody is forcing businesses to put 253 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: those quotation marks on things. Maybe there's some group who 254 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: comes in men and Black style and they're like, nope, sorry, 255 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put quotation marks around best cup 256 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: of coffee here anyway. Sorry, I know I'm diverting us, 257 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's a good it's a good thing to 258 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: think about. Because this is also like, we can't really 259 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: describe this as human steak. We would need to put 260 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: at asterix or parentheses around it. We know that this 261 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: is kind of a novelty. Right now, your your odds 262 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: of eating yourself as a steak, which is what they're pitching. 263 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Those odds are very low. But the odds for lab 264 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: grown meat hitting a restaurant or a dinner plate near 265 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: you are pretty good, actually much high er than they were, 266 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: and not just because the technology is evolving, but I 267 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: would argue because more importantly, the cost is plummeting, right, 268 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: it is the cost of plummeting, and people are if 269 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: you would have proposed this, what ten years ago, maybe 270 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen years ago, can you imagine a single person 271 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: raising their hand and saying, you know what, that sounds 272 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: ethical and smart, let's do it. Um. I don't think. 273 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, especially consumers, would have thought this 274 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: would be an okay thing. But um, well, we're just 275 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: we're in a we're in a place now, not only 276 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: with you know, the pandemic and restrictions. And there are 277 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why lab grown meat, whether it 278 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: is actually built on proteins from animals, or whether it's 279 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, some kind of meat substitute that truly feels 280 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: from a texture and taste perspective like meat. Um, you know, 281 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a gonna be a serious demand 282 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: for it, especially with the younger generation coming around. For 283 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: for human meat, for the human meat. But then but 284 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: then like take it a couple of centuries later, and 285 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: there is no other animal protein available of any kind, 286 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: even just dark plat right, and and the aura boros. 287 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: In that case, the a boros of consumption just becomes 288 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: a shorter snake, does it not. We just have a 289 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: shorter path here. This is the point I want to 290 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: leave us with before we move to our next story. 291 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: And it's simply this. When I'm talking about price, I'm 292 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: not just shooting the bull with you guys. I'll left farms. 293 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: They're thinly sliced steak prototype that they made. It took 294 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: about two to three weeks to make, and it costs 295 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: about fifty bucks. Right. Compare that or contrast that rather 296 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: to the first lab grown burger, ever, which came out 297 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: in twenty that that bad boy cost uh two hundred thousand, 298 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: seven hundred forty seven dollars and twenty five cents. So 299 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: the prices plummeting, and it will probably continue to plummet 300 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: as we hit economies at scale. We want to hear 301 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: from you, what what where's the beef? What are you 302 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna do? You can need some lab growing stuff would 303 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: you like it more If you knew it came directly 304 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: from you, would you be weirded out? Or would you 305 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: would you prefer, you know, just some kind of lab 306 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: grown meat alternative? Do you think the days of fancy 307 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: steakhouses are over? We'll tell you how to get in 308 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: touch with us at the at the end of this, 309 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: but we, uh, we would love to hear your thoughts. 310 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: So I've kicked it off with catabalism. I think we 311 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: should go to something something different after we're from our 312 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: sponsors and we're back. Oh my god, man, I'm still thinking. 313 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about that sweet, sweet lab grown human meat. 314 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: I imagine, imagine that you're in a spaceship and you're 315 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: just you're on your way somewhere. It's gonna take months 316 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: and months, maybe a year, noal, and there's no more 317 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: protein left because you get delayed or something. But you 318 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: know that in three to four weeks you can grow 319 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: a steak from your own cheek. I would say, I 320 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: didn't even think about that angle. I can literally just 321 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: scrape off some cells, put it in a dish, set 322 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: it and forget it like this, like the Showtime rotisserie, 323 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: and then come back and i'd have some delicious human meat. 324 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: But I want to circle back very quickly. I know 325 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: we're moving on to to my story next. This was 326 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: this was sort of initially like almost like a performance 327 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: art thing, right, or it was almost like a commentary 328 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: like there was some satire going on and the whole 329 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: thing very much so. And and uh, they're they're not 330 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: seriously proposing that we do this, but I'm seriously thinking, 331 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Am I too good to eat myself? 332 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't think our conversation would get 333 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: to that point, but shout about also to uh, I 334 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: have found this story. And then uh, fellow conspiracy realist 335 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Jay emailed us with this story as well. So 336 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: credit where it's due up there in Michigan. Man, stay warm, 337 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and uh Luckily, as far as we know, Michigan does 338 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: not have mutagen oozing out of the streets, one would hope, 339 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: or at least not that we know of. Let's start 340 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: this one off, guys, but let me let me pass 341 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: this around the room. How do you guys feel about 342 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: sink holes? Uh forum or against them? Do not support 343 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: their platform? Yeah, they don't support you either, and they 344 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: literally will uh swallow you into the earth. Yeah, against them, 345 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: against them. When I was in Guatemala, they had a 346 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: they had a sink coole problem, and like all jokes aside, 347 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: it's incredibly dangerous. How about superproducer code name dot Holiday. 348 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: I feel like you got some feelings about sink holes. 349 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: I have. I won't call it an intense phobia, but 350 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: I do have a fear of the ground, just like 351 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: opening up and swallowing my car or my living space. 352 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: It's definitely something that I've thought overhead nightmares about. Yeah. 353 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Well for good reason, because I just literally googled sinkholes 354 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: explained and the image that comes right up is like 355 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: practically half a city block, uh, just having caved in completely. 356 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: You can see like rebar and little surface things that 357 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of remained. But essentially it's like a sinkhole is 358 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: where moisture and erosion um create a path that allow 359 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: water to infiltrate the ground and the surface, and then 360 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: it causes it to kind of erode, and if you're 361 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: not aware of it, it can be treacherous, incredibly treacherously. 362 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Can be like, you know, the size of a single person, 363 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: but they can also be like the one I'm looking 364 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: at here, massive um, and in bigger cities they you know, 365 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: they absolutely can be a problem. I've never dealt with 366 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: one myself, but folks in Toronto in Canada were treated 367 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: to a pretty interesting stinkhole. UM walking around and it's 368 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: like some black top that appears to have cracked and 369 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: sort of sunken in halfway, but it's filled with a green, 370 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: gelatinous glowing ooze. Like you said, then it really does 371 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: look like the ooze, the titular ooze. There was a 372 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: secret of in the and the Ninja Turtles sequel um, 373 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: featuring a really important dance scene with Vanilla Ice, the 374 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: Ninja Wrap. I don't know if ivery remembers that one 375 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: where he go Ninja go, Ninja go. Um. He made 376 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: a comeback recently where he did that in a Kraft 377 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Macaroni and Cheese commercial. Had to give him props for that. 378 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: Is that a come back? Uh, it's something. Yeah, it's 379 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: important to be creative, you know. I applaud I applaud 380 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: anybody making your career in the arts. Honestly, I completely agree, 381 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: especially these days. You gotta you gotta do what you can. Um. 382 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's it's true. Um. I don remember 383 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the name of Richard Southern of six eighty News took 384 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: a bunch of great photos of this stuff, and in 385 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: this article in the Daily Mail, Um, they compare it 386 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: to looking remember that that movie Flubber with Robin Williams 387 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: with the bouncy goo looks like that looks like the 388 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: kind of slime you might make with your kid, but 389 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: with sort of an iridescent quality. And honestly that's what 390 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: makes it a little more spooky. Um. But yeah, it was. 391 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: It was definitely uh making some noise, let's say, with 392 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: the locals. Um. People were talking about it. A lot 393 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: of Ninja turtle references, um, and and a lot of 394 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of kind of hubbub surrounding this kind of 395 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: potential like okay, really you know murder, hornets, pandemic, you 396 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: know hurricane and now you know ask Co mutant slime 397 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: oozing from the very earth. Um some good tweets. Uh 398 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: this made me actually laugh out loud. I now need 399 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: to have pizza for dinner. I'd probably call Ghostbusters. Uh. 400 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Somebody called Nickelodeon's legal team. Remember Nickelodeon. It was ghack 401 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: is what that was called, right? Um? But yeah, it's 402 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing to behold. Um, and it it 403 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: made the rounds before it was pretty quickly debunked. And 404 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, no one really knew what it was. It 405 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: was more just kind of a curiosity. But it's really 406 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: interesting even like the actual answer to what this thing was. 407 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: It's not something I ever really would have thought about. Um, 408 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: but apparently, Uh, one way of checking to see where 409 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: a sinkhole goes or where it terminates is to pour 410 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: like water into it and then die the water really bright, 411 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: iridescent green, almost like that die they shoot you up 412 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: with when you're taking a stress test so they can 413 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: track it through your body. Um, so that's kind of 414 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: what it was, apparently, A City of Toronto spokesperson told 415 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: six eight News Toronto waterstaff inspected the sinkhole yesterday evening. 416 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: Sinkhole can be the result of a damage or collapse sewer. 417 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: In order to determine if the sink whole is connected 418 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: to the underlying sewer, a die test was conducted using 419 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: a green, non toxic die which is added into these 420 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: sinkholes while monitoring the closest man hole downstream to look 421 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: for traces of the die in the sewer. So alas, uh, 422 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: nothing supernatural or you know, another realmy going on here, 423 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: which was frankly disappointing. I can use a little bit 424 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: of Uh yeah, I would. I would look at that 425 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: as a silver lining. If it was like, you know, 426 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: the the undying, you know, coming from beyond the veil 427 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: to ree havoc on on the streets of of Toronto, 428 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of preferable to it's what we're 429 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: seeing in a lot of ways, I'd be down for that. 430 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: So viscosity wise, it is slime like though Okay, well 431 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not I can't touch it, obviously, 432 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: but it has the appearance of having sort of like 433 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: a what would you call that, like a surface tension 434 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: more akin to slime, But it does sound like it 435 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: is more water. So I don't know, but maybe just 436 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: your brain sees neon green goo and you immediately assume 437 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: that it would feel like slime, but it could absolutely 438 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: just be water. In that in that article they referred 439 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: to it as slime like liquid. Yes, that's right. Yeah. 440 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: And then the original, uh, the original tweet I think 441 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: from that photographer Richard southern Um who's you know, he's 442 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: verified on Twitter. He seemed to have made a pretty 443 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: good go of this story. Is there's a huge sinkhole 444 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: with a glowing green liquid on hastings have off of Gerard. 445 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: While it would be on brand for to have the 446 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: Ninja turtles appere in Toronto, the city tells me it's 447 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: a non toxic dye added to see if the sinkhole 448 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: is connected to a sewer. That's the official story. I'm 449 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: with you here, man. Uh why why take the official 450 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: probably true story if we we can build an urban 451 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: legend around it? You know. Also, also, wasn't for people 452 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: who did think there was something rotten or weird or 453 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: love craft Ian or sci fi of foot having having 454 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: a local officials say don't worry, we do this all 455 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the time. Is it gonna make people feel better? I'm 456 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: all about it. I would wonder though, why they chose green. 457 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: Is there a calculus there? No? But it's like I said, 458 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I mean, green is the color that they also shoot 459 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: up into into, you know, patients, when they when they 460 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: do those treadmill tests. All right, it's like, but that 461 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: that's actually radioactive. If I'm the mistaken and they're able 462 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: to trace to trace it trace its path through the body, 463 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe because it does seem to be iridescent enough that 464 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: it would glow a little bit when hit with light 465 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: um and it would really separate it from just the 466 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: other colors that you'd see in a sewer. I don't know, 467 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: let's just throw off the top of my head. It's 468 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: for the color key um. The scientists and a lot 469 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: of people they do use Adobe after effects green screen 470 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and me amen stuff right, 471 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This is strange because one 472 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: think I really appreciate about this because a lot of 473 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: these local stories don't get super widely reported. You know, 474 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: citizens of Toronto are wondering how often this stuff is 475 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: in there, you know, like running in pipes unknown beneath them. 476 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Has anybody like turned on the sink and had this 477 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: mutagen esque stuff coming out? That's what I would want 478 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: to hear about that. What would you do? I guess 479 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: you'd call the water department. I would probably flip out first, 480 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: and then I don't know who i'd call, maybe ghostbusters. Yeah, 481 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: but if you call the water department, they're just gonna 482 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: die more of the water green exactly to make sure 483 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't go it doesn't get downstream. Whatever that means. 484 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: I always confuse downstream with upstream. That's neither here nor there. 485 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Here's a little added story from from the lad Bible website. 486 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: This is specifically for for Alexis to trigger warning. You 487 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: might I want to plug your ears, but you'll I 488 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: might want to just face your fear. Um. So in 489 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: New York City there was a much more serious instance 490 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: of a sinkhole mishap where a young man by the 491 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: name our thirty three year old by the name of 492 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Leonard Uh Leonard Shoulders, which is a great name, by 493 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: the way, Leonard Shoulders, I love that from the bronx Um. 494 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: He was waiting for the bus and he fell into 495 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: a sinkhole that was about twelve ft deep. So you know, 496 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: that's a decent little fall. And let's see, I'm looking 497 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: at the corner where it was he fell through a 498 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: sinkhole and um, if that weren't bad enough to add 499 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: insult to injury, he uh says it was absolutely swarming 500 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: with very very large rats. Um. He even commented uh 501 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: that he was afraid to call out for help because 502 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: there's so many rats that he was afraid they would 503 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: have climbed into his mouth. You horrifying. Did this just 504 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: like open up beneath him while he was standing there 505 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: waiting for the bus. Yes, this is literally one of 506 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: the worst things I've ever heard. He is traumatized for life. 507 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: He's talking to his mom and he said, Mo, the 508 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: rats down there were ridiculous. They were so big. And 509 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: she said he was scared to yell out because he 510 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: thought they were going to go into his mouth. There's 511 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: an interview you can watch. You can actually see video 512 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: of him walking along the side street up against the 513 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: wall there where he fell through. Um, it's yeah. I mean, 514 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: can you sue the city over that? I mean, that 515 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: seems like the grounds for a pretty hefty lawsuit right there. 516 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: I would believe so. I would believe so. Um, and 517 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: he's lucky because he survived. Like. Sinkholes can be a 518 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: serious problem, especially as we consider ongoing dense like increase 519 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: in density of both people in infrastructure, like the the 520 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: stuff I was alluding to Guatemala in two thousand and ten, 521 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: a sinkhole that popped out suddenly was like sixty ft wide, 522 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: three hundred feet deep. It's swallowed a three story factory. 523 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this, Alexis. I know we're giving you nightmare 524 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: fuel here, but it is. It is not an unfounded fear. 525 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: This this stuff happens. If for anybody who's listening to 526 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: this and is concerned about the possibility of sinkholes, I 527 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: would put a little time into researching your local areas 528 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: water table. That's gonna be big indicators. Water tables not 529 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: just for nerds anymore. Actually could could save a life. 530 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: In the life you save could be your mother effing 531 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: own um. That's a wood ten Clan lyric. So also, 532 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: I would argue that this uh phobia Alexis is way 533 00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: more self preserving and well founded than my phobia of birds. 534 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: So don't feel bad for a second. I don't feel bad, 535 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: And in fact, I'm plotting on what kind of bird 536 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: story I can send you to pay you back for 537 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: bringing this to my attention. Let's I was reading this 538 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: article a little while back, and I can't find or 539 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: I was reading about this incident, but I can't find 540 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: the article I was reading from before. I thought it 541 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: was the Daily News, the New York Daily News or something. 542 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: But somebody put in their statistics about the number of 543 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: incidents that occur in the city of New York where 544 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: there is some kind of malfunction with either the sidewalk 545 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: area or you know public the actual um local government 546 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: would be in charge of, or stuff that a private 547 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: a private organization, the owners of a building would be 548 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: responsible for, like the grading and stuff to go down 549 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: into a um, like the basement area of a building. 550 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: UM and ah, I can't find it. Somebody maybe out 551 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: there right to us. But the statistics about the number 552 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: of incidences where people either just have a leg fall 553 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: through and get injured or injured their ankle or do 554 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: actually fall into a thing, it was it was in 555 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: the dozens per year, which is miniscule compared to the number. 556 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you think about the number of instances 557 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: where a human being is walking on the sidewalk in 558 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: New York City, like, think about how many billions of 559 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: instances there are of that, and then to only have 560 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: a couple of dozen actually occur like fall through or 561 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: injure themselves. But but still it's a real nightmare. Well 562 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of these are man made too. We 563 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: may be the authors of our own atrocity in this 564 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: in this situation, which I know is hyperbolic language, but 565 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: because when we're talking about water tables, like think about 566 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: places like Mexico, city, which is built on an aquifer 567 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: and takes water from that aquiffer, so the groundwater is 568 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: supporting all the stuff that's not sinking. And we're in 569 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: a drink your milkshake situation. So like, what if I'll 570 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: say it, what if nestlee Is has come to your 571 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: town just like the monorail guy in in uh the 572 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: Simpsons episode, right, and is drinking the milkshake of a 573 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: nearby town and then a sinkhole happens on private property 574 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: because of that, because of that process, you know, like 575 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: who's the blame to whom does the buck pass in 576 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: that situation? This, this is a very weird conversation, but 577 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm having you. I am too. Let's stop while we're 578 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: ahead and do a quick ad break and then we'll 579 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: be back with another strange news story. And we are 580 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: back for this story. We are traveling way out west 581 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: towards Utah, actually in Utah. We're just going to Utah. 582 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Everyone flats and of salt flats involved. There are some yes, 583 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: and we are specifically going to be dealing with a crew, 584 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: a very professional crew of people who while they were 585 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: supposed to be working instead we're counting sheep. Uh. They 586 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: were literally counting bighorn sheep. This is a crew from 587 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, I guess um. And 588 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: they were in a helicopter from the Utah Department of 589 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: Public Safety. They were flying over these, um, you know, 590 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: relatively uninhabited by humans areas, and they were looking at 591 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: big horn sheep populations or the population of big horn sheep, 592 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: and you know, everything was just happening pretty normally until 593 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: the I believe it was the pilot not one of 594 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: the biologists who was there on board, spotted something shiny 595 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: out of out of the helicopter that was down on 596 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: the ground in kind of a valley area down there, 597 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: and uh, it's crazy. He this is a quote. He 598 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, turn around, turn around, And 599 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: I was like what And he's like, there's this thing 600 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: back there. We we gotta go look at it. Okay. Intriguing, right, 601 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: that was the quote. Okay, So they saw something shining 602 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: on the ground there in this helicopter, they circle back, 603 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: they land, they all get out all excited, like, what 604 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: was that thing down there? Maybe it was just a 605 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: piece of metal sitting down there, you know, middle of nowhere. Well, 606 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: as they go checking it out, they found wedged into 607 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: all of this red rock, uh, like the surrounding sparse area, 608 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: there was I'm not kidding you guys, a monolith like 609 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: think straight out of two thousand one Space Odyssey, the 610 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: the metal whatever substance. It was black monolith that is 611 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: just Yeah, it's protruding out from the sand, from the 612 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: desert sand, and it's just there and it's just existing 613 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: and uh and it represents some kind of creation because 614 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: it's got the perfect uh cuts on it. It's obviously 615 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: created with some intelligence. Who knows from whence it came 616 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: or from when or where it originated. This thing looks 617 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: pretty similar, not quite as intriguing as the one from 618 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: two thousand one Space Honyessely, but it is a big 619 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: metallic ten ft twelve ft perhaps piece of metal that 620 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: is certainly created by some intelligent being. I'm just gonna 621 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: leave it there for now. Um. And it's just sitting 622 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: there and you just come upon it and you just behold, 623 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: and then everyone is left wondering what the heck it 624 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: is and why it is there? What are some theories? Matt, 625 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: This is fascinating. It looks to me like some piece 626 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: of industrial architecture or something right, like, uh, something you 627 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: might see in a train station, like a pillar or something. 628 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Have you guys gotten to take a look at it yet, 629 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at yeah, okay, yeah, I'm not in person, 630 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: not in person, but there is I will say there 631 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: is a ton of very strange art in in Utah 632 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: in this area, like check out the Tree of Life 633 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: when you have a chance, which is not as much 634 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: of a mystery, but just as weird looking. Oh, yeah, 635 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: for sure, this is well, yeah, I don't I don't 636 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: want to completely poo poo the mystery here because I 637 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: don't have official, you know, recognition from some artists that 638 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: there's a piece of art or from you know, some 639 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: crew that lost something in a flight above the area 640 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: where a large hunk of metal just like shot into 641 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: the ground and just stayed there and has been there 642 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: for years and years and years. We have no official 643 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: explanation for what this is yet, but an art piece 644 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: of some kind because the I would say, the most 645 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: likely scenario. But I don't know something about this, about 646 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: seeing it in the same way that have affected these 647 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: biologists and you know, helicopter pilot, it's affecting me and 648 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: just making me think about intelligence and how it would 649 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: show itself to an alien species, to to another species, 650 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: like how would we how would we display our intelligence 651 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: to an extraterrestrial species? Um Like, it's it's an interesting concept. 652 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: Or how to how would we how would we even 653 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: convey something to generations beyond ours of humans? You know 654 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: what I mean, there's there's been some fantastic research, very 655 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: thorough research, by the way, into how we would best 656 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: warn future generations about a nuclear waste site. You know, 657 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: do we like, do we make something out of stone? 658 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: Because that's as far as we could tell, that's like 659 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: the main kind of structure that lasts. I mean, we've 660 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 1: we've also, to your point, Matt, spent a great deal 661 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: of time figuring out what doing what to include on 662 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: space satellites. Right, Simple mathematical simple visual representations of mathematical 663 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: concepts are super popular because math, as far as we know, 664 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: seems to apply kind of sort of the same way 665 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: wherever you go until you get to the quantum level. 666 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: Let's not forget the Georgia guid stones. I mean that 667 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: was stone monoliths with inscribed with instructions for rebuilding civilization, 668 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, supposedly or that's one interpretation of it. Um. 669 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting in this Guardian article at the bottom it 670 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: it mentions that this monolith very similar in appearance to 671 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: the work of this particular sculptor named John McCracken. Um. 672 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: And then it gives he's passed away. In fact, we 673 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: passed away and I believe um. But it gives a 674 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: link to a gallery that his work is on display 675 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: in called the David's Warner Gallery, and it has some 676 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: images of his stuff and it's eerily that thing. I 677 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think, Matt. I haven't actually 678 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: seen that, but yeah, that sounds like the absolute most 679 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: plausible thing. Um. Yeah, I I don't. I don't want 680 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: anybody to get their hopes up. This thing is not 681 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: It looks as though there are places where bolts have 682 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: gone in on one of the sides, where it's actually 683 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: been enclosed and connected. Uh. So you know, it doesn't 684 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: look like it's even that high tech. It looks like 685 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: a piece of art. But when just imagining it in 686 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: this world, in this the environment in which it's in 687 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: whereas found, it feels, uh, it feels like it could 688 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: be another planet almost if you're seeing it out of context. 689 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: With the red Stone and where it is just in 690 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: this in this very arc area, and it made me 691 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: again and I know I do this all the time, 692 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: Ben and Noll, and I'm sorry. It made me think 693 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: of buzz Aldrin's c SPAN comments from I believe it 694 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: was two thousand nine. Yeah, on July nine, two thousand nine, 695 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: when buzz Aldrin went on a c SPAN and he 696 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: was talking about the Apollo eleven I think it was 697 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: fort anniversary and he made the comment you'll know this 698 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: and you can find a clip of it online when 699 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: he talks about the monolith on Phobos, one of mars moons, 700 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: and it's literally buzz Aldron saying, people are gonna wonder 701 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: where did that monolith on Mars's moon come from? And 702 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it before on this show, 703 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: and we've looked at it before, and there really is 704 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: a huge monolith on Phobos, this weirdly shaped, almost potato 705 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: like moon that goes around I think it traversed. It 706 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: goes around Mars every seven hours or so. It's a 707 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: basically a really fast small object that goes around Mars. 708 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: And again, it doesn't to me, it doesn't even matter 709 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: that the best science says. The reason why that monolith 710 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: is there is because it's some kind of ejecta from 711 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: when what are now two moons, you know, collided at 712 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: one point and created two moons, and this thing is 713 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 1: just left behind from there. But that just that to me, 714 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: is selling short the mystery and the excitement that you 715 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: could get from thinking about what this could be. Agreed, Agreed. 716 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing that always mystifies me about 717 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Our impetus as a species is 718 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: to finally find something we It's it's odd that on 719 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: a microcosmic level, so many people say they hate spoilers. 720 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: On a macro level, our species love spoilers. We want more, 721 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: We want the curtain pulled back. We want to see 722 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: the machinery of the cosmos. And we're getting better and 723 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: better at it, considering we started him the bottom. Now 724 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: we're here, Oh my god, Drake. Anyway, But but what 725 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: I like about your point with the mystery here, Matt, 726 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: is that it is inherently erroneous, and I would say 727 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: dangerously presumptuous for us to assume that we know everything already. 728 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: I know, it feels maybe self satisfactory to be able 729 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: to Pooh pooh things and say no, no, no, that's all. 730 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: That's all mundane stuff. We understand it. But, my friends, 731 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: the universe is a very very very very big, very 732 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: dark room, and our knowledge is just like a sputtering 733 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: candle on a birthday cake, you know what I mean, 734 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 1: And it flickers, right. It was one of those annoying 735 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: ones that you blow out and then it lights back 736 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: up again, and then you blow it out and lights 737 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: back up again. I hate this. I think inspiring. It's 738 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: way better than being completely in the dark. Though. Let's 739 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: just remember that, yeah, because we still still don't know 740 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: what swims out there in the ink, you know what 741 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean. I know I'm talking like I'm writing a 742 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: sci fi story now, but it's but, but it's true. 743 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: And my question with this would be, first off, the 744 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: boring questions but important. If we cannot identify the creator 745 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: of this human or otherwise, we can certainly run some 746 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: tests to see how old it is. We could do 747 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: some research to see who is in the area during 748 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: that time. Um, you know, I'm I'm ninety nine percent 749 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: sure that someone will come forward. It'll be some outsider art, 750 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: it will be a discovery that was made by human 751 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: intended for the enjoyment and the fascination of other human beings. 752 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 1: But there's that one percent, So one percent, it's always 753 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: like hold on, maybe maybe, so we should we should 754 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: keep our eyes on this. We should ask people who 755 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: live in Utah and listen to this show, have you 756 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: seen this? Are you gonna go see it? You tell 757 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: us about it. I was just texting our compatriot Alex Williams, 758 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: who just spent a good little bit of time out there, 759 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: and asked him if he'd seen this or heard anything 760 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: about it. His response was very quintessentially Alex. He said, no, 761 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,240 Speaker 1: it looks like a lot of places I went in Utah. 762 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of it out there, 763 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: it being wilderness, probably all kinds of weird hiding out 764 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: in those rocks. More modolists everywhere, more monolists. Please, um wow. Yeah. Well, 765 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 1: if you're if you've also been out there like our 766 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: our friend Alex, or you know, maybe maybe your name 767 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: is Brett Hutchings and you experienced this, and you want 768 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: to write to us and tell us about what you experienced. Uh, 769 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: please do. We're very very much interested in your thoughts 770 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: and your experiences. If you've, you know, dealt with some 771 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: green slime like substance protruding from your city streets. We'd 772 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: also like to hear from you, especially if you're in 773 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: Toronto and you saw it. Did you ever go to 774 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon Studios and get hit by the gap eiser? Tell 775 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: us about that? What was that like? And would you 776 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: eat lab grown human meat? Would it matter to you 777 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: if it came from you or someone else? Like the 778 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: old gross question in grade school? If you had the poop? 779 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: Wouldould be more comfortable if it was yours? Weird question? 780 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 1: I went to a weird school. But but the other 781 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: question here, honestly is uh, would you eat human flesh 782 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: if you had to to survive? It? Should? Uh? It 783 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: should disappoint and distress and maybe not surprised most of us. 784 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: That's statistically speaking. The answer is yes. Check out our 785 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: cannibalism episode. Check out all the other strange things we 786 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: have mentioned, Stay tuned for our classic episode coming out 787 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: tomorrow uh and also uh no spoilers, but we have 788 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: some crazy stuff lined up for you this week while 789 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: you're waiting for it to come out. Of reach out 790 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: to us right to us mysterious monuments green slime in Toronto, 791 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: the question what is catabolism? We're open to all that 792 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: and more. 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