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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show from out here in Phoenix, day after

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Valley of the Sun did itself a

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Speaker 1: splendid service with all of the people that have been

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Speaker 1: out here. I have been broadcasting in the KFYI studios.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you listening in the Phoenix area, where

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Speaker 1: we have been for many parts of the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, the number one rated show in all of

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Speaker 1: there listening to us across the valley and certainly around

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Speaker 1: the country outside of this country. Buck Sexton on his

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Speaker 1: honeymoon this week with the Lovely Carry. You can follow

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Speaker 1: him on Instagram. He has been sharing some photos of

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Speaker 1: occasionally of their honeymoon out there in the South Pacific.

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Speaker 1: The weather it's very nice, appears to be quite nice

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Speaker 1: beaches out there. He will be back on Monday of

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Speaker 1: next week or Tuesday of next week. He's out on

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Speaker 1: the honeymoon right now, so I'll have you throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of this week. Solo. Want to also let you

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Speaker 1: moment of the program. You can search out my name,

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis, you can search out Buck Stexton. You can

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Speaker 1: hear the conversation that we began this show talking about

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Speaker 1: when I argued and I think I made a pretty

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Speaker 1: good case that the Super Bowl is anti woke and

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Speaker 1: that many people in the sports media have managed to

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Speaker 1: convince sports fans that they're more woke than they actually are.

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Speaker 1: You should hate the sports media, not the sports leagues themselves. Again,

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Speaker 1: encourage you to go listen to that. We'll continue to unpack.

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Speaker 1: You can also weigh in as many of you have

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Speaker 1: we were going to break, I was talking about as

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Speaker 1: a kid growing up, there are a couple of theme

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Speaker 1: musics that would come on and you just basically get

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Speaker 1: chillbumps and you'd be terrified. One of them was America's

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Speaker 1: Most Wanted, which I probably watched a hundred times or more,

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Speaker 1: and every single time convinced myself that somebody who was

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Speaker 1: America's Most Wanted was right outside of my door. Here

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Speaker 1: is what the America's most wanted. For those of you

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Speaker 1: who remember, theme song sounded like, all right, a little

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Speaker 1: bit scary. The one that really got me, though, was

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Speaker 1: the Unsolved Misseteries theme. And given the fact that we

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Speaker 1: are shooting down objects all over the place, this unsolved

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Speaker 1: mysteries theme. And I know some of you out there

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Speaker 1: there's the X Files that got you. But if you

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Speaker 1: are around my age, and you grew up in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: the eighties, the nineties when this show was rolling, you

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Speaker 1: probably watched it when you shouldn't have. You may have

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Speaker 1: watched it when your parents weren't home and it was

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Speaker 1: dark outside and you thought to yourself, why in the

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Speaker 1: world did I watch? This is what the theme music

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Speaker 1: sounded like. Oh man, I mean I got chill bumps

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Speaker 1: just listening to that. It took me back in time.

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Speaker 1: I've met a lot of you out there. This is

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Speaker 1: the perfect theme music for the topic that we are

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Speaker 1: now discussing. We are on seventy two hours since the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration shot down a second object off the coast

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Speaker 1: of Alaska. They then shot down an object in Canada,

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Speaker 1: They shot down an object in Michigan. We talked with

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon at the top of the second hour. We

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Speaker 1: still don't really know what it is. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: as the questions were coming in, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there were saying, well, what could this be? This

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Speaker 1: is from yesterday. Nor AD Commander Air Force General Glen

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Speaker 1: van Herk refused, I can't believe this is real. Refuse

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Speaker 1: to rule out aliens as potentially the source for what

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Speaker 1: was being shot down. Listen, because you still haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to tell us what these things are that we

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Speaker 1: are shooting out of the sky. That raises the question,

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Speaker 1: have you ruled out aliens or extra terrestrials and if so, why,

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Speaker 1: because that is what everyone is asking us right now.

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Speaker 1: I thank truly question. I'll let the intel community and

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Speaker 1: the counterintelligence community figured that out. I haven't ruled out

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those things. Remember how

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Speaker 1: they can't explain what these unidentified flying objects are. UFOs

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Speaker 1: a black lesbian in the history of America. She wanted

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Speaker 1: been questions and concerns about this, but there is no again,

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Speaker 1: no indication of aliens or extra terrestrial activity with these

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Speaker 1: because the Air Force general said it could be aliens.

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Speaker 1: So now Karine John Pierre has to come out and

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Speaker 1: say it's not aliens. The point here is can we

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Speaker 1: it right now? The point is there we go. We

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you out there are like,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, you're having flashbacked. You're afraid we have

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Speaker 1: a legitimate UFO seventy two hours in. So is this

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Speaker 1: Shina who is sending these objects? Is it possible? Okay,

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Speaker 1: don't want people on any of to sleep tonight. Is

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Speaker 1: it possible that here? Is my theory? Based on all

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Speaker 1: here is one of two things. One, China sent the

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Speaker 1: how we were going to respond to it, how long

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Speaker 1: they then said, okay, let's send smaller spycraft and see

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Speaker 1: I blew it when we didn't shoot down this Chinese

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Speaker 1: secondary explanation. And by the way, it wouldn't have to

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Speaker 1: one legitimate possibility about what's going on right now. Secondary

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Speaker 1: Yet they have consistently been the least transparent. They have

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Speaker 1: Hope you guys all enjoy the Super Bowl. Surely we

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Speaker 1: they still have not provided us any definitive notice of

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Speaker 1: the opposite, because they've trotted out an Air Force general

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Speaker 1: My own wife put her out there. She keeps saying,

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Speaker 1: I think these are missiles. I think they're testing to

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Speaker 1: China testing it. I think there's probably some of you

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Speaker 1: How would you assess the internal palace intrigue, so to

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Speaker 1: speak of China and what that might tell us about

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Speaker 1: this situation. It's really hard to know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that there are military elements,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the PLA that are willfully bucking Chi Jinping.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's really consolidated power over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: And it's a party army, you know, it's really a

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Speaker 1: communist party army. So, but it is it is puzzling Clay,

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Speaker 1: Why would she Jining do this now? Because the Chinese

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Speaker 1: are on a bit of a trauma offensive. I think

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Speaker 1: they're on their back feet over the economy, zero COVID increasing,

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Speaker 1: you know, a sort of popularity around the world for China.

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Speaker 1: So it is, it is puzzling. I mean I could see,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think there's one explanation, which could be

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Speaker 1: they're probing us, they're challenging us. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: almost like a kind of a negotiating style where you

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Speaker 1: kind of put a dig into the opponent and kind

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Speaker 1: of like humiliate him a little bit to see how

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Speaker 1: he reacts and push him back. That's a tried and

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Speaker 1: true Chinese and communist negotiating tactic. It's also possible they

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Speaker 1: didn't fully appreciate what the response was going to be

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Speaker 1: or fully coordinate how everything was going to go. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, it's hard to note, but

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we have to step back

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Speaker 1: and say, look, we can't know what's going on in

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Speaker 1: Chiju and pings Head, we can't know what's going on

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Speaker 1: inside the Standing Committee of the Central Committee of the

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Speaker 1: of the Polopuar of the People's Republic of China. We

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Speaker 1: have to deal with what the reality is. They're flying

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Speaker 1: balloons over our airspace they're continuing an unpreced and military

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Speaker 1: build up. The leopard is not fundamentally changed its spots.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean we have to be willfully aggressive or provocative,

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Speaker 1: but it means we shouldn't get distracted and we shouldn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, go for this kind of compete while cooperating.

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Speaker 1: We should make sure that we are operating from a

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Speaker 1: position of strength. That is what she can pay, that

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Speaker 1: is what the People's Republic of China government respects. And

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Speaker 1: from that position of strength we can take a more

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Speaker 1: moderate position. But first we have to be tough and

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of The Shop, Reminder that Buck is on

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Speaker 1: his honeymoon this week with Kerrie and I'll be in solo.

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Speaker 1: I've had a tremendous time out here in Phoenix. Did

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Speaker 1: the show Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and now Monday out here

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Speaker 1: in our k f Y studios. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: everybody in Phoenix who has been so fabulous in their hospitality.

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Speaker 1: Had a phenomenal time out here. Looking forward to getting

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Speaker 1: back to Nashville, my hometown, to be able to do

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Speaker 1: the show for the rest of the week, and encourage you,

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Speaker 1: if you've missed any of today's shows, to go out

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Speaker 1: there and make sure that you download the podcast and

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Speaker 1: don't miss a single moment. And I started off the

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Speaker 1: show and I just want to reiterate this one more time.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was obviously the super Bowl. We'll find out one

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Speaker 1: hundred million plus what the total number is of people

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Speaker 1: who watched the super Bowl. And what I would tell

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Speaker 1: you is the super Bowl represents everything that America does great.

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Speaker 1: It is a meritocracy. It is populated and made possible

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes grinders who worked at their butts off.

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Speaker 1: I saw them all throughout this week. It is a

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Speaker 1: celebration of capitalistic excess, whether it is the commercials, whether

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Speaker 1: it is all the trips out to buy junk food. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: to celebrate including I'd like to thank my mom and

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Speaker 1: dad for watching our kids. The past weekend, my wife's

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Speaker 1: out here with me. They took my eight year old

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Speaker 1: out to buy a bunch of junk food for for

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And I imagine that there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of grandparents out there that regularly do the same.

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Speaker 1: Kids get opportunities they otherwise would not when grandma and

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Speaker 1: grandpa are around. And so I'm sure that we are

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Speaker 1: going to return home and find out that the boys

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Speaker 1: had quite a few treats. But it is a celebration

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Speaker 1: of capitalistic excess that brings everybody together, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think there are aspects of the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 1: we get wrong. Right. The black national anthem, I think

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Tomorrow will play you my new anthem that

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Speaker 1: we designed that would make also Hispanics, Asians women. I

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Speaker 1: think we might have had Native Americans trying to cover

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Speaker 1: every single fabric of the United States, which you know

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Speaker 1: is the ostensible purpose of the anthem itself to represent everyone.

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Speaker 1: But we can have a lot of fun with that.

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Speaker 1: I thought even Rihanna and her performance represents what stands

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Speaker 1: for so much as the promise of America because she

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Speaker 1: moved from Barbados here to become a global iconic superstar,

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Speaker 1: and that is true all over this world. The best

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Speaker 1: place you can come to make yourself a global superstar

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Speaker 1: and to transcend the country of your birth is still

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Speaker 1: the United States. And football is an American invention. It

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Speaker 1: is something that America almost exclusively plays. And so I

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Speaker 1: am not willing to allow the Super Bowl to be

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Speaker 1: taken over by woke imbeciles when sports itself is the

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Speaker 1: very definition of the meritocracy. Also want to give a

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Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen who were calling this game.

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Speaker 1: And I've been an unbelievable weather out here and I

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Speaker 1: did tip for those of you who may point find

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Speaker 1: yourself in Phoenix. It's a tough hike. Really tough hike,

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean because it's a lot of perpendicular nature.

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Speaker 1: There's lots of rocks, lots of different climbing required on

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Speaker 1: this trip. But my goodness, the camelback hike to the top.

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Speaker 1: I posted a few of these photos up on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I made the trip up that mountain

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and it was a heck of an experience.

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Speaker 1: Takes a couple hours. It might take three hours. You

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Speaker 1: might be able to go up faster. Some people go

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Speaker 1: down and then turn around and go back up. Those

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Speaker 1: guys are beasts, because I can feel it in my

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Speaker 1: legs even today. But it is a you make it,

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Speaker 1: gonna make sure that you have your water for sure

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Speaker 1: in order to make it all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the top. But it was pretty outstanding. So I want

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Speaker 1: to thank everybody out in the Phoenix area for their support.

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go download the podcast. Make sure that

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Speaker 1: you don't miss a single moment. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who still want to weigh in. I told

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Speaker 1: you that we would close out the show discussing everything

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Speaker 1: out there. Craig in Tucson. What you got for me, man? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the second option, and there was a third

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Speaker 1: one that I think you overlooked, and I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: anybody else mentioned this. I thought about this starting on

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Speaker 1: Friday when they announced another objects shot down. I believe

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Speaker 1: that it's possible that the Defense Department is launching objects

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Speaker 1: that they can shoot down in an attempt to make

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and the administration look like they have more

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Speaker 1: testosterone than they actually do. And it was Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: who said last week that half the women in his

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Speaker 1: administration are women. I believe half the men are women too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. I don't necessarily disagree with

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Speaker 1: the idea the premise that Biden could be doing this

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Speaker 1: because it makes him look stronger. The difference is, I

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Speaker 1: think they wouldn't be saying that they didn't know where

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Speaker 1: these objects came from if they were in any way

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Speaker 1: involved from the United States government itself. So look, I

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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of different hypotheses for those

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Speaker 1: of you out there who missed it. My theory was one,

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Speaker 1: it's China or another adversarial country. Two, we have just

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Speaker 1: upped our overall surveillance to such an extent that we

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Speaker 1: are shooting down completely innocuous objects. Now, Ie, this could

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Speaker 1: be weather balloon like where it's not actually a threat.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that we don't know seventy two hours later,

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Speaker 1: I think is pretty crazy. Chuck in Kentucky, what you

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Speaker 1: got for us? It was us. They have to see

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Speaker 1: where they could hit us the worst, and they ain't

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Speaker 1: worked about taking out infrastructure. They're trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: a where they can kill another heart million Americans with

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Speaker 1: another of bars or something because and our and our

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Speaker 1: we got our commander in ch boldly laughing about it

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Speaker 1: like it's not that serious. Yeah, I get you. I'm

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Speaker 1: fired up about it. If you listen to me. On Friday,

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Speaker 1: I said, can you imagine if this were the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighties and Russia had just sent a spy balloon across

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Speaker 1: the entire United States? Would Wrong Reagan have claimed that

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Speaker 1: as a victory that we shot it down once it

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Speaker 1: got over the Atlantic in South Carolina, of course not.

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Speaker 1: Would George Bush Sr. Have claimed that as a victory. No,

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Speaker 1: it would have been a tremendous embarrassment that Russia was able,

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union at the time, to put its spycraft

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Speaker 1: into our airspace and that there was no restriction from

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Speaker 1: their ability to go across the entire continental United States.

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Speaker 1: It would have been a tremendous embarrassment, a sput nick

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Speaker 1: like moment in the Cold War with Russia. Grant and Bismarck,

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Speaker 1: North Dakota closing out the shop today on the Monday

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Speaker 1: edition of the program, I just have no trust in

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Speaker 1: anything going on. And I like listening to you guys

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Speaker 1: because it seems like what we hear and what we

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Speaker 1: forecast eventually comes true with you two, even though mister

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Speaker 1: Buck isn't there. And I just have a hard time

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Speaker 1: believe in anything coming out of anywhere, and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to raise a family in this environment. I don't doubt

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Speaker 1: it at all. Thank you for the call. We're closing

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Speaker 1: up the show here. I think what you're hitting on

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Speaker 1: is this administration has given us no reason to trust them.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has an extended a hand in any way.

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Speaker 1: He's been an adversarial leader who told us, hey, if

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Speaker 1: you don't get the COVID shot, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: winter of death. Hey, if you get the COVID shot, though,

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Speaker 1: COVID will be over forever. And it just extends across

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Speaker 1: his entire administration. They have proven time after time they're

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Speaker 1: not to be trusted. We are see it Tuesday,