WEBVTT - WNBA Playoff Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get started, please rate and review our show.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps people find us. On this episode of Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Illustrated Weekly, the w NBA Playoffs are upon us and

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<v Speaker 1>we have everything you need to know to get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>We are delighted to be joined by Jordan Legans from

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<v Speaker 1>The Spinsters podcast and Buckets for our postseason preview. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, John Gonzalez from Sports Illustrated and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Sports Illustrated Weekly. Jordan Legans, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Illustrated Weekly. Thank you for having me. So happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be here again. Oh, it's delightful to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on as always. The w NBA Playoffs are here and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna help us set the table. Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>I want to run through all of the different matchups

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<v Speaker 1>with you, because nobody's just plugged into the w n

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<v Speaker 1>b a as you are, so it's gonna be great

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. But I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the change to the format in the playoffs, which I

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<v Speaker 1>find very interesting. Jordan's so no more buys. Every team

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<v Speaker 1>plays in the first round, no receding after the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the component that I find interesting after six

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<v Speaker 1>years of single elimination first and second round games. We

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<v Speaker 1>have now moved to first round matchups as a best

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<v Speaker 1>of three, semifinal and finals best of five the first

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<v Speaker 1>round Jordan's this is the wrinkle. First two games at

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<v Speaker 1>the higher seed at home. If the lower seats somehow

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<v Speaker 1>pulls that off, they get the decisive game three on

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<v Speaker 1>their core. What do you make of all this? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we like it? I like it? I like it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the new old format because this is a format

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<v Speaker 1>that the W used to have back in the heyday.

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<v Speaker 1>The single elimination was just chaos and it was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like March madness at a pro level,

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<v Speaker 1>and some players hated it, like if you have an

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<v Speaker 1>off game and you're a top seed, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to redeem yourself. So I like this series.

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<v Speaker 1>It gives us more games just in general, more playoff games,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what we want. But it's time it allows

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<v Speaker 1>for some bounce back games, because that's how the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>skuy won last year. They had their best games in

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<v Speaker 1>those single elimination games and then they ended up winning

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<v Speaker 1>the finals. They came into the playoffs at five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and they still won the finals, so it they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stopped that right after Chicago did that you make

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<v Speaker 1>a compelling point. More basketball is always good. We love

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<v Speaker 1>basketball here. On the one hand, I am an agent

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<v Speaker 1>of chaos in my own life. I also embraced chaos

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<v Speaker 1>as a content creator. However, if you were a basketball

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<v Speaker 1>player and a basketball team, and you were a higher seed,

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<v Speaker 1>you certainly want more games because, as we know, the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics bear it out. If you have an actual series,

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<v Speaker 1>the higher seeds, the more accomplished teams tend to get

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<v Speaker 1>through as opposed to Hey, on any given night, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's just one game, now, all of a sudden, there

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<v Speaker 1>might be an upset. So it is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>fairer for the teams that are putting the work during

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, which brings me Jordan's to these matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll start with the one versus the eight. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas Aces versus the Phoenix Mercury. The race. The

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<v Speaker 1>number one Vegas barely held off the Chicago Sky, the

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<v Speaker 1>aforementioned defending champions by a half game. It lost any sass,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the number one overall. See in the radio playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas one all three games versus the Mercury in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. Uh, what do you see? From Vegas. What

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<v Speaker 1>are their strengths to the Does Mercury have any shot here?

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas is going to win the championship, That is my statement.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna save that for the end, but all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it up top. Let's do it up top,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are winning this series and they are beating everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Asia Wilson is my m v P, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the Mercury have a chance. Diana Trassi is is out.

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<v Speaker 1>She was out for the regular season. It's a question

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<v Speaker 1>mark if she's playing in the playoffs. Skylar Diggins didn't

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<v Speaker 1>finish the regular season for personal reasons. So this Mercury

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<v Speaker 1>team him is kind of stitched together barely. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have their all stars Superstar and Britney Griner right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Aces also have some injuries with Derick A. Hanby,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are rolling Kelsey Plum. If Asia wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>m v P, Kelsey Plum might be the m v P.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky Hammond has his team moving like a machine and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna beat everybody. So the Mercury are first up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna beat them too. I like it. I

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<v Speaker 1>like how declarative and definitive. This is as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>that first round matchup for the Aces doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a tall order because of all the things that Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>has had to go through this season. There were five

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<v Speaker 1>games under five hundred, they finished fifteen and twenty. As

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, Diana Tarassi has a quad strain. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>if she'll be back. And then the entire Britney Grinder situation,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been just a really awful situation. Her lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>we should mention, just appealed her sentence while the US

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<v Speaker 1>government tries to arrange a prisoners swap. There's no real

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<v Speaker 1>good transition here. It's just like a weight that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>over everybody. Uh and that that, obviously and rightly so,

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<v Speaker 1>is a massive distruction because there's more important things in basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>But because we're discussing basketball here, Jordan's just imagine you

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<v Speaker 1>made the case for the Aces rolling and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win the championship, and they're they're playing so well, what

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<v Speaker 1>would a Mercury upset have to look like? What would

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pull off? They would have to score

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fifteen points each game. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of points, especially in the debut. The Aces are scoring

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<v Speaker 1>so easily and so much, and they're going they're the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest team in the league pace wise, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to score more than them and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be faster than them for three games or two games.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that happening, especially for the Mercury team.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they would, if they were to win, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to take it to the whole series and

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<v Speaker 1>probably shoot from three breaks. As a basketball fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like is a tall order, uh, from or from

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere on the court. So got speed to the Mercury.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got some nice parting gifts coming your way. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to number two Chicago Sky versus the number seven

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<v Speaker 1>New York Liberty. Chicago almost got the top slot. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the defending champs for the first time in franchise history,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Sky champions. We know that their interior with

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<v Speaker 1>Candice Parker is excellent, and yet you're already saying that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rap. It's gonna go to the Aces.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more though about the Sky before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Liberty and why the Sky could maybe up

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<v Speaker 1>end your Aces in your prediction. The Sky have that

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<v Speaker 1>championship experience, right like going back to back you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it takes to get there. The Aces have been

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<v Speaker 1>to the finals before, but this pretty much same unit

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<v Speaker 1>with the Sky. We're just there so they know what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes. They have great leadership in Canus Parker. They

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<v Speaker 1>have Courtney bandersup, they have Khalia Copper and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>just have their mindset there, like we know what it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to get there. We're going to get back whoever

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<v Speaker 1>is in our way. We're gonna bulldoze them. But when

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<v Speaker 1>they meet the Aces again, that's where it stops. I

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<v Speaker 1>have Chicago going all the way up until but we

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<v Speaker 1>just had the Commissioner's Cup not too long ago, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically they're in season tournament for the w n

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<v Speaker 1>b A and the Chicago Sky and the Aces met there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Aces were up by thirty in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a lot of points. They score a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of points. That's what I'm getting at. So if the

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<v Speaker 1>Sky can match them there and kind of prep each

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<v Speaker 1>series like Okay, this is what we need to work

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<v Speaker 1>on to beat the Aces, then that's what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get them there. First up for the Liberty, they are

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<v Speaker 1>a tough team and they barely made it into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys didn't know, the last regular season games

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<v Speaker 1>all decided the last three spots of the playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberty got that spot because they beat the Atlanta Dream.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Liberty got that spot two times in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>They've squeaked in. But you have Sabrina Esque, which you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bet money on. You're gonna bet money on that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to have a great game, She's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a good series. But Nigel Laney, Um, so many players

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<v Speaker 1>on this Liberty team are going to fight till the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still don't think they make it past Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and their experience. Yeah, as you mentioned, Liberty just snuck in.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished at sixteen and twenty. Uh. Doesn't look good

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<v Speaker 1>for them either, in the same way that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look good for Phoenix. But now we get into some

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<v Speaker 1>of these matchups that could potentially be slightly more competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>You have number three Connecticut Sun versus the sixth seed

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Wings. The Son had a really good season

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven just a half game behind this guy in

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<v Speaker 1>a game behind the Aces eleven and three. Since the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star break, they're playing their best basketball right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think maybe a potential spoiler somewhere in here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Connecticut Son. I always say this about them. They

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<v Speaker 1>are the bride'smaids, but never the bride. They have wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>regular seasons top top three for the past like four years,

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<v Speaker 1>but they when it gets to the postseason, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>a little shaky. So if I'm yes, and if you're

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<v Speaker 1>the Wings, you want the Connecticut Son. I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>this series because the Wings are a team that will

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<v Speaker 1>blow up everyone's bracket. Like they are really good and

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<v Speaker 1>they're peeking at the right time. Without their superstar, Rique

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<v Speaker 1>gomal A, one of the best players in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>is injured right now and she is expected to miss

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<v Speaker 1>the first round. I hate to see it for such

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome player. Plus, don't forget she's just came back

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<v Speaker 1>from that ankle injury. But the Dallas Wings have actually

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<v Speaker 1>been playing better without her, which is very interesting. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen. Well, so let me let me stop

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<v Speaker 1>you then, because there they were a game under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished at seventeen and eighteen. As you mentioned, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have their top score the best player Rique, She's

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<v Speaker 1>got an abdominal injury and yet You're excited for the

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<v Speaker 1>series and think that the Wings want the Sun. So

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<v Speaker 1>what are the Wings doing to the Sun or what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the Wings can bring that could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>spell an upset. The Sun are really good inside in

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<v Speaker 1>the paint. Most of their points are right in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>They have Alyssa thomas Um, they have Bree Jones who

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<v Speaker 1>just clog it up. But the Dallas Wings have Tierra McCowen,

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<v Speaker 1>who is having a breakout season on this new team.

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<v Speaker 1>She was with the Fever before, now she's with Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>and we're really were able to see her blossom into

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<v Speaker 1>this dominant post player that we knew that she could be.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have that matchup in the in the paint,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not going to be so easy for them

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<v Speaker 1>where they have John Quo Jones typically you know feasted inside,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have Tierra McCowan to at least be a

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<v Speaker 1>barrier and stop them. They also have Izzie Harrison, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a post player. So I think that matchup in

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<v Speaker 1>the paint is usually where Connecticut's son beats everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has that marked. And then on the outside, Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>has Marina Maybury who's having an incredible season, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is really stepping up while Rique is out and Connecticut

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<v Speaker 1>is a little inconsistent on the outside with their guards.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Heidelman is doing well. Courtney Williams is great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think Marina Maybrey is gonna drop a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>point game on them, and they're not gonna see it

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<v Speaker 1>coming because they're expecting a Rique to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>since she's not here, maybe they fall back a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit um and Dallas kind of strikes. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping for. Are you gonna do it? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to pick the upset? Oh? Yeah, let's do it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Let's do it. Yeah, there we go. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear first on Sports Illustrator Weekly, Jordan's picking the upset? Alright?

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<v Speaker 1>Last one for you, number four Seattle Storm versus the

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<v Speaker 1>number five Washington Mystics. Uh, they finished with the same record,

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<v Speaker 1>both were fourteen tiebreaker and home court go to the Storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Super even what are we looking for here? Aside from

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<v Speaker 1>farewell to Supper who was like one of the great,

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<v Speaker 1>not just great all time basketball players, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great all time athletes. Ever. I can't believe she's retiring.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it either. I'm so old. I'm so old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's bizarre. I don't know a w B A

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<v Speaker 1>without super like shea going to college. She has been

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<v Speaker 1>winning at every level for so long. But this has

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<v Speaker 1>been a wonderful farewell tour to her every game, her

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<v Speaker 1>last home game, her last regular season game, like everything

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<v Speaker 1>has really been this. We love you, Sue, we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is the playoffs, and uh, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Mystics are going to be so so nice

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<v Speaker 1>to you on her farewell tour. But it really helps

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<v Speaker 1>that Sue is on a Seattle Storm team with Brianna

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart and Jue Lloyd and all of these one Tina Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of these really great basketballers. I watched the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle Storm the other day and I was like, they

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<v Speaker 1>could win it all. Like they're that good. They are

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<v Speaker 1>so good. And when we talk about experience in the postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a core that has won multiple championships together,

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<v Speaker 1>have been to the playoffs almost every season, have been

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<v Speaker 1>to the finals, so they know what it takes. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a regular season, Yeah, yeah, we're the fourth seed,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to turn up in the playoffs. This

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Mystic team is trying to figure that out. Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>de Ladon was a part time player during the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season just to save her for this moment um. Natasha

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<v Speaker 1>Cloud is a little bit of a question mark. I

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<v Speaker 1>know she got banged up in the last the last game,

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Philly Zone. Natasha contractually obligated to mention that anytime

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<v Speaker 1>anybody for Philadelphia appears, So yes, very excited for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got Khalia Copper to North Philly. She's on the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>skuy so you you'll love her too. But the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Mystics are close. I don't think this is their year

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<v Speaker 1>to make it past Seattle, but they're close. They're like

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<v Speaker 1>a season or two from winning it again. So it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds to me like you're going with the storm though,

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<v Speaker 1>or are you wavering? I'm going with the storm. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going with the storm here. Jula Lloyd had thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the last game, and every time I

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<v Speaker 1>watched her play basketball, I'm just in awe and she

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful at the sport, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>her time to shine. She wants People have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>only been talking about Sue's farewell tour and not really

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<v Speaker 1>about how good Seattle Storms team is. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to kind of prove like, yeah, we're good

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna we're gonna go far. And you've got

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<v Speaker 1>me excited for that series. You've got me excited for

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<v Speaker 1>these playoffs. You've already mentioned that the finals are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be chalk, and then you've got the Aces winning. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've covered all that. Less exciting probably for them, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not for us, are the teams that were eliminated. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to rattle off a couple here with you

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<v Speaker 1>that did not make the playoffs. The Sparks, Jordan's, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sparks missing back to back postseasons for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since the first two years as a team, traded away

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<v Speaker 1>their first round pick, Grimm, Grimm and l A. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was at the last home game last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, how did that go? It did not go

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<v Speaker 1>well because you know that Dallas team that I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling you about, Yeah, they beat us by about forty

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<v Speaker 1>It was not good. A friend of mine Jordan's a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine went to a game recently and said

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<v Speaker 1>there was no energy in the building. It was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dead. People are like only the hardcore Sparks fans

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<v Speaker 1>like you go, now, yeah, it's kind of rough. I

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<v Speaker 1>think me and my fiance were there and we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking around and we were like, it isn't Sparks basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was actually bad basketball. They didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. I've interviewed so many Sparks players this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was turnover with coaches and players and egos.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can make all the shots on the court,

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<v Speaker 1>but if everything behind the scenes isn't working out and

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<v Speaker 1>isn't jelling together, then it kind of doesn't matter. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's going on with the Sparks right now. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like anyone is like, hey, remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>were good. I panned up to the championship banners while

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, and I zoomed in to just remember

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<v Speaker 1>the good times that, like, we were good at one point, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got to get back there. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>get back there. I don't know what it's gonna take,

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<v Speaker 1>but this season was pretty awful, Like it was pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>How long I mean when you say you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it'll take, I mean ball park me Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how grim do you think it is? Like when do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're back in the mix. Are we talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like a full hard reset? Your you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>season was the reset. It was pretty much a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new roster. And then I saw a tweet the other

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<v Speaker 1>day that said, like six players are free agents or

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<v Speaker 1>unrestricted free agents. So will they come back to this

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<v Speaker 1>fire storm? I don't know, are they going to go

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else? I think we need a new coach. Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Fisher was fired and then we had an interim with

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Williams, I believe, and no one really bought into

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing because it just seemed like it

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<v Speaker 1>was temporary. So if we come in, have a coach

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<v Speaker 1>come in and say this is our identity, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna stand for, this is what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play for. Hey, let's watch some old game film of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lisa Leslie sparks and how packed it was in

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<v Speaker 1>Staples in the forum, Like let's get back to how

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<v Speaker 1>great we can be. Then I think they'll be buy

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<v Speaker 1>in because the players want to play at a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to win, and individually they're all great players.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have to figure out how to jail them together.

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<v Speaker 1>Small small things. I mean, it's just so tiny count

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<v Speaker 1>the organization change. Yeah, one more team that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to mention to you that didn't make it. The links

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<v Speaker 1>were eliminated, which means we say goodbye to the great

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<v Speaker 1>Sylvia Fouls a lot of media attention, obviously and rightly so,

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<v Speaker 1>as she's leaving. Highly recommend by the way Ben Pickman

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<v Speaker 1>story on her in s I, Sylvia is a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got a very unique life story which I want

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on with you, but real quick. Uh as

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball player, fifteen year career to w NBA titles,

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<v Speaker 1>two finals, MVPs for Olympic Golds, go on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about total rebounds and field goal percentage and double doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>Member of the WS Anniversary team, just dunked in the

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<v Speaker 1>most recent All Star Game. It put her career in perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain her greatness to people, man Sweet Silk. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>she is the nicest person I've ever met. Like sweet

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<v Speaker 1>Sill just is the perfect moniker for her because she

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<v Speaker 1>is so nice. But her career is really dominance, like

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<v Speaker 1>pure dominance for a really long time, like a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year career. She's still the league leader in rebounding. Her

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<v Speaker 1>last season, she has the all time leader in rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so interesting because when you see her play

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<v Speaker 1>even this season, you say, she's still dominant. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>she hanging it up? But she wanted to end on

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<v Speaker 1>this note, and I think as basketball fans we can

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate that. We didn't want her to go down

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<v Speaker 1>an injury or um she was going to retire in

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<v Speaker 1>when she had a hip surgery, but she don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go out like that. She wanted to still go

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<v Speaker 1>out as this dominant, most decorated player, and for an

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<v Speaker 1>organization like The Links where she helped, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>create their dynasty and help with that. But the game

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<v Speaker 1>is going to miss her. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be able to get more layups

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<v Speaker 1>now that she's not in there blocking and uh, share

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<v Speaker 1>the rebounds somewhere else. But just as fans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she plays with such tenacity and energy, but it's also

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<v Speaker 1>super super kind and really nice. We're just gonna miss her.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Sylvia. Foul's here right to the last, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, still dominant on the boards, still cleaning the glass,

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<v Speaker 1>still burying people, which is appropriate because she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend her next phase of her life as a mortician. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is a wild component. Again, I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>people go read Ben Pickman's story, but it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>how she was like into death from an early age

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<v Speaker 1>and she like just decided to have a side hustle

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<v Speaker 1>where she like showed up at a funeral home and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll help you beautify these corpses, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be her life. It's wild. It's so wild. She

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the most interesting person ever because also she

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<v Speaker 1>like knits, and she like knit everyone a homemade gift.

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<v Speaker 1>On her last home game, while she was receiving all

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<v Speaker 1>these flowers and gifts, she knitted everybody something personal, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's who she is. But also yes, she says that

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<v Speaker 1>people just aren't educated in the mortician area and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually great and she loves it. So more about

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<v Speaker 1>to a great retirement plan. Honestly, Wow, I wish her

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<v Speaker 1>the best. She was a delight to watch. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about the playoffs now because we've previewed them with you,

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<v Speaker 1>so we wish you the best as well. Listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan on the Spinsters with Haley, who is also a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of the program, and watch her at w NBA

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<v Speaker 1>commentary on buckets. She's our number one seed and a

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<v Speaker 1>sure fire Hall of Famer. Jordan leggands, thank you for this,

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<v Speaker 1>stuck around this long, we leave you with this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm preparing for people to just show up and be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this distant cousin was invited song. I'm invited right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how me and Jordan are going to show up soon.

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<v Speaker 1>We were invited come to Santa Clarita, come on down.

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<v Speaker 1>All Jordan's are invited for sure.