1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of is information. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? I've got five dollars? 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: This is a ratable up cowboy tackle. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable, 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: Humans need fantasy to be human. 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: My goodness, I don't misspeak, prone, the best, relentless, refusing 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: to give up. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Very Welcome to the Fancy Flex Podcast from the Action 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: Network and Fantasy Labs. I'm your host, Chris Raybaun of 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: the Action Network and Fancy Lab them. I'm joined by 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: one of the most accurate projectors and fancy rankers in 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: the game, has been for quite some time, the odds maker, 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Sean Kerner. Sean, what's going on? 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: What's up? 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: Definitely excited for tight end draft and you know, we 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: just got to see a week one of the preseason, 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: so we actually got to see some of these guys 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: actually get some you know NFL snaps and you know, 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: like looking forward to drafting with you. 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is uh, this is gonna be an interesting 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: one because there's only so many guys here. But yeah, 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: you know last year you got you know, Sam, you 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: got Musgrave at tight end thirty two. I got Sam 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: laporta tight end twenty even Kincaid was sixteen. So there's 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: definitely some few values to be had up and down 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: this board, and uh, you know, you never know which 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: one of those guys that it could be, So I 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: think it's important to kind of talk about the value 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: of each one of them and jump in. We'll go 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: eight pick excuse me, ten picks for the draft, five 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: tight ends each. 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So for this podcast, 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: just the reminder this is the way we do it. 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: We draft, we go back and forth drafting rookie tight ends. 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: We'll take five each and we score it versus ADP. 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: W used besketball ten ADP over the last two weeks, 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: and last year you won. So I think we did 53 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: a running back in wide receiver first, and I actually 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: edged you out on both of those. But in terms 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: of tight end, we both were negative versus ADP, which 56 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: is not a surprise when you're drafting a bunch of 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, tight ends that don't even have ADPs. But 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: you were. Your five tight ends on average were a 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: minus nineteen point three. Mine were on average a minus 60 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: twenty six point four. You had two of your five 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: beat ADP. I only had one. Mine did score more, 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: but that's just because I had Sam Laporta at tight 63 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: end twenty So I ended up with two hundred and 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: seventy eight half PPR points. You had two hundred twenty six. 65 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: But we're scoring versus ADP because I think I think 66 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: the valve. Finding value makes it more fun. You can't 67 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: just you know, pick the necessarily pick the you know, 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: best tight end on the boards. There's a little bit 69 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: of game theory here, and any tight end that does 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: not have an ADP because we are going ten deep 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: for this draft, will get an ADP of tight end 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: forty five because there were forty four tight ends currently 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: with ADP's over the last two weeks at Bestball ten. 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: So with that being said, I'll let you kick it off. 75 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Where are you going number one this year? Last year 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: you had a pretty good start. You went Dalton Kincaid 77 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: at he was a tight end sixteen eightyp so that 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: cashed for you. How you're starting it this year? 79 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm going with THEO Johnson of the Giants. He's unrented, 80 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: so I get him a tight end forty five. You know, 81 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 3: I think that the Giants drafted him the fourth round 82 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: realizing that Darren Waller was likely going to retire, so 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: they probably want to give Theo, you know, every chance 84 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: to potentially be the starter of this season as a 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: rookie with Daniel Bellinger as you know, the safe option, 86 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: and just in case he doesn't pan out quite yet. 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: But you know hip injury did prevent him from practicing 88 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: a bit early in training camp, but he's he's returned 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: to return from that seems to be totally fine. So 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: right now he's he's Lissa as the four string tight end. 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: But apparently he's been getting a lot of first team 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: reps in camp, so I wouldn't look into that too much. 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: And he has the upside to be the number two 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: target in this offense behind Lak Neighbors, like that's that's 95 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 3: his ceiling a near one. So I think he's probably 96 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: the best bet right now to clear his ADP from 97 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: all these guys. So I'm gonna go THEO Johnson. 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. I think that's easily to pick, you know, 99 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: with the path to UH starting as soon as week one, 100 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: because like you said, it's in these depth tarts, they're unofficial. 101 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton says something like, yeah, I just 102 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: I just I just write names and without even thinking 103 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: about it, and it saves me. Instead of taking four 104 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: five minutes, it takes me five. Unfortunately, he also just 105 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: haphazardly played guys too, because I have no idea what 106 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: like how that depth chart was shaken out and what 107 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: to do with it. But as far as the Giants, yeah, 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: THEO Johnson doesn't matter where he's listed. Daniel Bellinger is 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: not really much of a threat offensively long term in 110 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: terms of being a pass catcher. And then you got 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: kind of like Tyree Jackson former quarterback. He's he's not 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: going to factor in too much. Cajer, you know, he 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: might catch a ball here and there. And then he 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: got some blocking guys like Man Hurts and Jack Stole 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: I think is still on there. So yeah, a lot, 116 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunity for THEO Johnson in year one 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: for the New York Giants. Remember it was Evan Ingram 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: had a pretty good year one for the Giants and 119 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: kind of I think it was a pretty bad Giants 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: team and he ended up having a really nice year one, 121 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: So I think john I don't know if Johnson has 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: that kind of upside, you know, ingramqe sixty four balls 123 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: for seven to twenty two in year one, but I 124 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: would say Johnson could catch you know, forty balls maybe. 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: I think that's a realistic which would put him what 126 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 2: probably inside the top thirty. So that's definitely some upside 127 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: for Johnson. Nice nice t E two or t E 128 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: three best ball pick if you're playing in that format. 129 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: For my first pick, second overall, I'm gonna go with 130 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Jitavian Sanders at tight end thirty nine, and he is 131 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: in a somewhat crowded Carolina tight end room. But Ian 132 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Thomas has been missing camp with injury and Tommy Trumble 133 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: has been missing camp with injury, and those are the 134 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: guys listed as the starters on the unofficial depth chart. 135 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: So Sanders were getting a lot of reps with the ones. 136 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: He did so in the first prese game as well. 137 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: And you know, I mean when you're talking about Ian Thomas, 138 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Tommy Trumble, and Jordan Matthews with the position switch. Yes, 139 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: Jordan Matthews, the former Eagle wide receiver is still in 140 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: the league and may make the team right now. He's 141 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: on pace to make the team uh as the as 142 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: the third of the fourth tight end. So that's what 143 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Sanders is competing with here on the Carolina Panthers. So 144 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: the only the reason I still like Johnson Moore if 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: you're choosing between the two, because Johnson's ADP is a 146 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: little lower and I think he has even less competition 147 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: like I do think Tommy Trumble they would like to 148 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: get him some some snaps in the passing game if 149 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: if he were healthy. But Sanders, Texas tight end, has 150 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: some explosiveness to him. So and he was a you 151 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: know pick just outside the top one hundred at pick 152 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: one oh one. So they spent a pretty penny in 153 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: terms of draft capital to get Sanders, even though they 154 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: did have that glot because they also had Stephen Sullivan 155 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: and he ended up he's they had to cut him 156 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: with an injury settlement. So Sander's just been you know, 157 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: climbing up the depth chart and his comp on player 158 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: profiler is Luke Musgraves, so that that's promising. So yeah, 159 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: six four two forty five, decent speed just under four 160 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: to six and another guy only twenty one and just 161 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: turned twenty one a few months ago, So a lot 162 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: of upside here for Sanderson. 163 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 164 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: After brock Bowers, it's sort of up to up for 165 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: debate who's the next best tight end for fantasy purposes, 166 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: and Sanders is right in that mix. And the Panthers 167 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: they've been, you know, Fancy Wasteland a tight end ever 168 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: since Greg Olsen left. And you know, Sanders is not 169 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: a great blocker. He is a pass catching tight end, 170 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: so I think they have that envisioning with him. It's 171 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: just bringing back the tight end as an offensive piece 172 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: in this offense. 173 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And Sander's can do a little bit of 174 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: a boat. You can't. He can, he could, He could 175 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: block a little bit. You know, it's not gonna be great, 176 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: but right now, you can. 177 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: Do it enough to get on the field and make 178 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 3: some catches. 179 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, as good as Tommy Trumble can anyway. 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: Exactly, but exactly what. 181 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Are you doing for your second pick, third overall of 182 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: our rookie tight end draft for twenty twenty four. 183 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: I'm going Ben Sennett at tight end twenty nine. And 184 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: I made a tweet over the weekend. This is the 185 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: third latest tight end that's probably gonna be delayed one 186 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: or two years for his breakout flying alongside zach Ertz, 187 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, like Dallas Goddard, Trade McBride and yeah, who knows, 188 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: maybe learning under a great tight end like zach Ertz 189 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: may have helped them. 190 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: But he already looks good. 191 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: He had that amazing catch and run, I mean, dragging 192 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: guys that look Jimmy look like the Jimmy Graham play 193 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. But He's very talented. He has a 194 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: ton of upside. You know, I'm projecting him right around here, 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: just given zach Ertz will likely be the starting tight 196 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: end in week one. But you know, if Ertz missus 197 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: playing time Senate has you know, high end tight end 198 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: two upside. You know, we see that running back all 199 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: the time. You know, the backup will leap up the 200 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: ranks and be a useful fantasy asset if the starter 201 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: goes down. That's not really usually the case at tight end. 202 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: So Sinnett's kind of like the Isaiah likely where he 203 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: has this massive upside if the starter will go down. 204 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: So if he you know, starts a few games, he 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: could go off and then the rest of the time, 206 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: you know, he could be splitting reps with zach Ertz 207 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: or potentially leap frog him this year. So I just 208 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: think he has a good for ceiling profile as a rookie. 209 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: And you know this is a bad on. 210 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: Talent situation, but I think at tight end twenty nine 211 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: there's there's fairly low risk here. You know, he could 212 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 3: end up outside of the top forty, but I think 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: he has the talent and situation to potentially, you know, 214 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: finish in the top twenty or so. 215 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he definitely has a talent. He was another 216 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: one of those guys I thought was just getting overdrafted 217 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: all summer, and now he's starting to fall a little 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: bit because I actually think zach Ertz is a little 219 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: undervalued now looks at him and he's like, oh, he's old. 220 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: He's only gonna play like eight games. But I like 221 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsburg. You kind of alluded to it. This is 222 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury offense now, and he was the exact one 223 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: who was zach Ertz, and then Trey McBride was next up, 224 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: and you know it was like you said, year two. 225 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: But like, like we talked about, zach Ertz has been 226 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: missing half the season and he's old, so that could 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: definitely happen again. And Set has enough talent to be 228 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: productive in this offense where really after you know, besides 229 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin and Austin Eckler, they are targets up for grabs. 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess Dotson is in the mix, but 231 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: you know he's been disappointing and kind of wearing a 232 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: new role, so uh yeah, there's a path here. So 233 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: I like it, and I thought he looked good. Finally 234 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: kind of drop in to a decent ADP because I 235 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: was off him all summer, did really get any of 236 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: them because he was going like tight end twenty two 237 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: at points in the in the summer, and I was like, well, 238 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: that's where I have zach Ertz. You know, if he 239 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: doesn't get hurt. But yeah, I do like the talent. 240 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: So hopefully I mean, I don't want to say hopefully 241 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: Urtz gets hurt, but hopefully so now finds a way 242 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: to contribute right off the bat. He should be the 243 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: tight end two regardless, and then Baits will be the 244 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: blocking tight end, so he'll at least be the number 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: two pass catching tight end. I don't think Turner is 246 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: gonna make the team this year. Okay, for the fourth 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: overall pickup our rookie tight end draft, I'm going to 248 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: roll with Kate Stover undrafted, so it would be tight 249 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: end forty five Houston. I did peep that he gotta 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: he gotta snap with the first team offense in preseason 251 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Week one. Their second game, Dalton Schultz played six of 252 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: all six of the snaps, but Stover, as the second 253 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: tight end, came on ran a route one of the 254 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: four routes that were available for that first team offense. Now, 255 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: not everybody was playing, but I do think Stover is 256 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: a guy who, you know, Dalton Schultz getting a little 257 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: bit up there in age, and Revin Jordan kind of 258 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: know what he is at this point. He I mean, 259 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: Revin Jordan did well to even just rebound after a 260 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: really bad start to his career and kind of make 261 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: a you know, find a role for himself last year. 262 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: But you know, this is a new regime, not the 263 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: one that drafted Revin Jordan. And Revin Jordan you know, 264 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: that was way back was twenty twenty one, I think 265 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: when he got drafted twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. 266 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, so like this is a guy in Stover 267 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: with better draft pedigree. He was a fourth round pick 268 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: this year, one hundred twenty fourth overall, compared to Jordan 269 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: at one forty eight back you know, a few years ago. 270 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: So I think Stover has a chance to leap frog 271 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: Jordan as soon as this year, maybe even as soon 272 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: as Week one, given how the preseason has been going. 273 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: And if he does that, then he's just an adult 274 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: and Show's injury away from being the number one tight 275 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: end on a CJ. Stroud offense, and he has been 276 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: catching balls in preseason as well. He's got he caught 277 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: two or three targets for twenty six on twenty routes 278 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame game, and then against Pittsburgh 279 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: and we won. Of the preseason, he caught three of 280 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: three for thirty two on eighteen routes, so you know, 281 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: he's been getting a decent amount. He's up to six targets, 282 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: five catches fifty eight yards on the preseason. He's playing 283 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: some plays, a couple of snaps here and there out 284 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: wide and playing about just under forty percent in the slot. 285 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: So they've been able to move him around. And that's 286 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: that's enticing when you think about how good we expect 287 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: this offense is. So could be a sneaky play, but 288 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: I could see us by like week four or five, 289 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: you know, projecting Stover for like you know, you know, 290 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: eleven eleven and a half or betting under on like 291 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: his prop at eleven and a half because he's he's 292 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: put up at fifteen to sixteen yards like each of 293 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: the first three or fours or something like that. 294 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: No way they're offering Stover props unless Schultz get gets hurt. 295 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: But well, you know, Raybon, you could bet on Stover's 296 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: props right now in the preseason. 297 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: I could, I could. I mean, I don't like I'd 298 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: have to bet an Over, you know me and Over. 299 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: I say, I'm not betting the under. 300 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: On K Stover. It was the it was the Hall 301 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: of Fame game. I took over. 302 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: It was like seventeen and a half yards. My medium 303 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: projection did not recommend that, but I thought, you know, 304 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: he's got a shot to show off tonight, and he 305 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: did impress. I do like this pick. He's he's a 306 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: good blocker, good pass catcher, could be great after the 307 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: catch as well. 308 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: He's he's sort of like a Tyler Higbee. 309 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: A Dulton Schultz ironically comp and I think he you know, 310 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: Brevin Jordan's there, but I think he could be you know, 311 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: Schultz direct backup. So if Schultz, yeah, miss his time, 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: I think it'd be Stover who actually steps up. 313 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: I hope. So, I mean that's kind of the sense 314 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: I've been getting, but nothing official yet, so we'll keep 315 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: monitoring him, but yeah, could be sneaky. All right, Pick 316 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: number five of our risky tight end draft. Where are 317 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: you going with this one. 318 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: All right. 319 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: So, I mean a lot of these guys that aren't 320 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: ranked or the last guy that's ranked it, it's gonna 321 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: be tough for them to provide value. So I'm actually 322 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: going with the stud here. Brock Bauers at tight end 323 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: eleven might be tough for him to clear this, but 324 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna come very close to a top 325 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 3: ten season as a rookie. You know, one of the 326 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: best tight end prospects we've seen over the past several years. 327 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 3: I didn't love the landing spot just given the quarterback situation. 328 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: Michael Penix was off the board at this point. They 329 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: I thought that they were going to get Michael Pennock, 330 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: So you know, they're stuck with Gardner Minshew Adan O'Connell 331 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: for this season. They already had Michael Mayer, who I 332 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: thought was an excellent prospect last year, and they have 333 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: DeVante Adams, who commends a high target share along with 334 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, Jacoby Myers. But that could change, you know, 335 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: if Adams does eventually get traded away, Bowers could be 336 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, the top target or a top two target 337 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: at least in this offense. So you know, I love 338 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: his upside this year, and we've seen rookie tight ends 339 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: fair a lot better lately with Sam Laport and Dalton 340 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: and Kay last year already breaking out. So he definitely 341 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: has the upside to finish top ten based on, you know, 342 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: his talent alone. The situation does hurt him, but again 343 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: in this range, you know, a lot of tight ends 344 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: have question marks, so I would not be shocked if 345 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: he has a top ten season this year. So I 346 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: think at worst, you know, he finishes top fifteen, So 347 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: I don't think I would take that big of a hit. 348 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: If he's healthy and plays all season, I think he's 349 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: pretty much a lot to be top twenty, top fifteen. 350 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that that's who I would have gone it next. 351 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: I mean, besides that, you're just kind of grasping few picks, 352 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: So I think that was the right pick. And yeah, 353 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: it's kind of probably gonna. I would compare him to 354 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: Don Kinkd. I think obviously not in the same caliber 355 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: of of offense, with the same caliber of quarterback, but 356 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: in terms of how the usage breaks down, I think, 357 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, he'll start the year, uh you know, and 358 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: it kind of it'll be a platoon with Mayor, but 359 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: they'll be using mostly to like to tight end will 360 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: be their base offense. And that's even out of more 361 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: necessity now that what Gallup retired at wide receiver. You know, 362 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: they they have I think it's Tucker, Christian Wilkinson and 363 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: Jalen Geiton and DJ Turner, uh, you know, competing for 364 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: snaps behind Adams and and Meyers. So they're yeah, they're 365 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: best served going with, you know, two tight ends and 366 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: just treating Bowers like like the slot receiver. I do 367 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: think Tucker has some skills, you know, so hell, but 368 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: but this is gonna be a I would expect very 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: similar to what we saw out of Kincaid knocks in 370 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: uh in Kincaid's rookie year last year in Buffalo. And 371 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: if Mayer ever goes down, then you're looking at a 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: potential number two target because you know, this is a 373 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: new offense. So you know Jacobe Myers, you know, and 374 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: you're getting force fed targets in that preseason game. But 375 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 2: he could have a little bit of a different role. 376 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know if he puts up a similar 377 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: season the last year, so there could be that number 378 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: two spot behind Adams, even if he doesn't get traded. 379 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: It could definitely be up for grabs in our raider offense. 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This is where last year 397 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: we both finished like minus a million, and that's where 398 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: it happens. We're just trying to cut the losses right here. 399 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it's gonna be. I mean, all right, 400 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: let's go. Let's just go with draft pedigree. Let's just 401 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: go tip Raymond uh for the Cardinals. Now, he's I 402 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: expecting to be the number three tight end to start 403 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: the year, behind both Trade McBride and Elijah Higgins, who, 404 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: by the way, great pick by you. I think that 405 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: that pretty much was a difference in our draft. Yeah 406 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: you got him with your last pick. Uh, and he 407 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: was undrafted, so a T forty five and only he 408 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: was only minus six, which which is actually very good. 409 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: What did he do last year? He caught three balls. 410 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: Eight touchdown. This is with healthy Trey McBride. What the 411 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: hell was going on? Oh yeah, he's a former wide receiver. 412 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: That's why I went with him. But that's crazy. 413 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: He had a teen fourteen balls at fourteen. 414 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: This is all with Trade McBride doing Tray McBride things too. 415 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah that's interesting. 416 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, now that's what I'm competing with 417 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: this year with Raymond. But you know he is. I mean, really, 418 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: you're just looking for draft pedigree here because this is 419 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: a notoriously tough position to learn. But if Trey McBride 420 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: goes down. I mean that he's projected to be a 421 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: top four Fantasy tight end, so, uh, you know, there 422 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: would be some targets. And Higgins is that I believe 423 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 2: he's a verted wide receiver. 424 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Correct. 425 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: So Raymond is two hundred and seventy one pounds, but 426 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: he is athletic for his size. He's six' five two 427 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: seventy one bouts to turn twenty, three third round pick 428 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: out Of, illinois so you, know he's a more well 429 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: rounded tight. End at some, point it's possible he Jumps, 430 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: higgins you, know just just due to the fact that 431 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: he's a little bit more a well rounded Wherea higgins is, 432 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: more you, know straight up pass catching. Specialists So i'll 433 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: take my shot At. Raymond there's a bunch of WAYS 434 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: i could, go but if if mcgride gets, hurt it 435 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: could get interesting with With raymond in year. One all, 436 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: right pick number. Seven you got two, MORE i got two. More, well, 437 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: WELL i Guess i'm now in the same boat with. 438 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: YOU i don't know WHAT i would have done in your. 439 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: Shoes So i'm gonna go With Jared. Wiley he The 440 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: chiefs took him in. 441 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: The fourth round and he is probably their plan for you, 442 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: Know Travis kelsey's got, one maybe two more seasons. Left 443 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: he's probably their plan on When kelsey. Retires and while you, 444 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: Know Noah gray has been solid As kelsey's back up 445 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: and probably is as true backup this, SEASON i Think 446 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: wiley does have more upside Than. Gray he's you, know 447 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: a very good, athlete really good pass catching tight. End 448 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: SO i think that he might take a couple of 449 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: years behind the, scenes but they're probably grooming him for 450 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: The kelsey. Role but you, know If kelsey misses time this, 451 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: year they could have to accelerate that a. Bit and 452 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: this is sort of a bet on. Talent he certainly 453 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: needs an injury to have any playing. Time but you, 454 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: Know i'm batting on the talent, here and being paired 455 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 3: With Patrick maholmes is. Huge no matter how good he, is, 456 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: like he's going to be elevated just by playing Alongside Patrick. 457 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: Maholmes so this is a shot in the, Dark BUT 458 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: i think that this is their long time plan anyway 459 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: to have him sort of take over The kelsey, Roles 460 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 3: so it could at times happen as soon as this. 461 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: Year, yeah he just got to stop FUMBLING i know 462 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: he lost to fumble In week, one But i'm hoping 463 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: that because if right now it seems like he, Would 464 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: Irv smith still has to make the. Team but If 465 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: Irv smith does make the, Team smith probably is active 466 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: for special. Teams So i'm hoping That Erth smith just 467 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: doesn't make the, team because then why we would be 468 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: active as the number three Behind kelsey And gray every. 469 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: Week so that's that's something to. Watch but, YEAH i 470 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: definitely noticed him too and very intrigued by by. Him 471 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: long term might still be a year, away probably, is 472 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: as are most of these guys at, least but, yeah, 473 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean you. Can't you could do worse than 474 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: A Kansas City chief tight. 475 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: End especially the third. 476 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: Stringer don't always make fun Of Andy reid likes to 477 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 3: get these like random. 478 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Guys yeah they. 479 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: Do like the quarterback sneak because my homes won't. 480 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Sneak, yeah random looks in the end. Zone so maybe 481 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: he's The Jody fortson replacement and it might get me 482 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: a couple of touchdowns this. 483 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Year oh, man we are digging indeed with this one 484 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: On oh my, god, MAN i can't even. WAIT i 485 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: need to hear who you're going With Devin. Cope Devin 486 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: cope seventh Rounder una Bay buck may not even catch 487 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: the opening day, roster but he might because it's an, 488 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: again it's a it's not one of these new offensive. 489 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Regimes last, Year Kate outen played probably a little too. 490 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 2: MUCH i, mean this dude did not come off the. 491 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: Field Payne durham is there as a receiver, tighter But 492 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: Cooke keith is like a straight up more of a blocking, 493 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: back So cope he's more of a. Receiver Uh so 494 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: there's a chance he cracks the roster of the game 495 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: day roster as the number three tight end and his 496 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: uh you, know catches a ball here and. There maybe 497 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: wait in the year more. So but he did run 498 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: sixteen pass, routes did not block once in the first 499 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: week of. Preseason so that's that's about ALL i can 500 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: ask for When i'm just trying to get get a 501 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 2: couple of catches here and not finished below te forty, 502 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: Five and you, know maybe it was A with a 503 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: good enough, camp he might even be able to beat 504 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: out a guy Like. DURHAM i Think durham's playing, well 505 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: so probably, not but you, know he is a seventh 506 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: rounder out Of. Washington he who has a little bit 507 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: of pass catching acumen and is competing for that number 508 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: three maybe even number two Row and If aton goes, 509 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: down there's a lot of snaps to go. Around So 510 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: i'll take my chances with With coulp because if he's 511 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: on the, field it's kind of like a like A higgins. 512 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: Type he's probably gonna be on the field to catch catch. Passes. 513 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he ran sixteen rounds and drew a targa 514 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: on four of. Them he only caught one, ball but 515 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: again he's he's drawing. Targets that's all you could ask 516 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: for these. Guys and if IF i don't have to 517 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 3: Project Koke keith ever, again that would be. 518 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Great So i'm hoping he makes the. 519 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: Team there you, go all, right one more pick for 520 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: us each you got you got your first up number nine? 521 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: Overall are you? 522 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: Going i'm gonna have to take the guy that has 523 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: AN adp because tight end forty isn't that far away 524 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 3: from forty, Five so at Least i'm taking the GUY 525 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: i think has the best shot, of you, know potentially 526 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: catching some balls this. Year So i'm Going Eric all 527 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: from The. Bengals, NOW i this tight end depth chart 528 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: is very. CROWDED i don't know where he's gonna settle. 529 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: In you, know they Have mike A, Seki Tanner hudson, 530 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: example will obviously get playing, time And Tanner hudson looked 531 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: great last. Year, AGAIN i don't know who's all gonna 532 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: make the, team but it's very crowded tight end. 533 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Room and you, Know Eric all does kind of. 534 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: Remind me Of mike A, Seki so it's it's ironic 535 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: he's going to be backing up, potentially but he's a 536 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: really athletic past catching tight. End might be a bit 537 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: raw entering year, one just because he missed a ton 538 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: of time in, college like he missed a lot of 539 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: games due to, injury so maybe you know there's injury 540 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: risk here as. Well but he always performed well when 541 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: he was, healthy so you, know there's a shot he 542 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: ends up being the number two tight. End he, could you, 543 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: know leap frog of Healthy guseki this. Year who, knows 544 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: BUT i think just in this, offense he at least 545 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: has the upside to potentially be a top four target 546 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: Of Joe borrow at some point this. Season so that's 547 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: that's ALL i could ask for with one of these, 548 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 3: Guys so there's a reason why he's the only guy 549 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: left that actually has AN, Adp so you, Know i'm 550 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: taking a little bit more of a risk with, Him but, 551 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: again he's only five slots higher than this cutoff that 552 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: we have at tight end forty, Five So i'm okay 553 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: taking him here at tight end Forty. 554 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: YEAH i know it makes a lot of. Sense you, 555 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: know there is a, glut but this this team was 556 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: using what four or five tight ends some weeks last. 557 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 2: Year Once hudson true started getting, activated they might go 558 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: A SMITH Irv, smith who was their starter last. Year 559 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: so it's wide. Opening gasecki is he's always been known 560 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: to kind of, disappoint so who knows how long he he, 561 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: can you, know stick with. It And hudson he could 562 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: be who, knows he could be a trade candidate if 563 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: he continues to play well and they feel like they 564 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: got they want to get the two young guys because 565 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: it's not Just Eric, ahl it's Also tanner McLaughlin AND 566 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: i think that's Who i'm gonna go with with my 567 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: final pick because it was between him And Jaheim bell 568 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: of The. Patriots but you Got henry And hooper there 569 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: and then A. J barner on The seahawks is like 570 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: the fifth string tight. End he hasn't had a good, 571 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: camp So i'll just go McLaughlin and hope that Uh 572 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: cincinnati trades one of their tight ends or, maybe like you, 573 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: said maybe all gets hurt or something like. That so 574 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: it's kind of like a somewhat negatively correlated to. Yours 575 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: whereas you, KNOW i don't THINK i don't think five 576 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: tight ends are gonna make the the. TEAM i mean it's, 577 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: possible but more than likely McLachlin ends up on the practice, 578 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: squad but it's sicky never he's a little bit, FRAGILE 579 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: i think in all you, mentioned so there's a chance 580 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: to McLaughlin gets some. Steps and he had a pretty 581 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: decent week, one graded out pretty well AT, pff played 582 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: and ran fifteen. Routes got a couple of targets on 583 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: those fifteen, rounds called a twenty three yard pass with 584 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: twenty four yard drafted the. Catch, YEAH i think that 585 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: was like a little screen tight end screen or something like. 586 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: That so, yeah he's another one of these. Guys and 587 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: he was drafted in the sixth, round so you, know 588 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: not quite the pedigree of all but, DEFINITELY i think 589 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: a guy who they at least are intrigued. By so 590 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: like you, Said Joe, burrow same, Thing Patrick. Mahomes just 591 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: take these tight ends and hope for the. Best So 592 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: i'll take McLaughlin and hope he doesn't give me a 593 00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: straight up. 594 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: Zero he, might but good With he was very productive 595 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: At arizona the last, tiear so he has that to go. 596 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: Off a lot of these tight, ends you, know they're 597 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: averaging one and a half catches the, game but they 598 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: have talent AND nfl coaches think they can like bring 599 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: it out of. Them McLaughlin was already very productive of At, 600 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: arizona so that that definitely gives him a shot to 601 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: make some. Noise and, yeah he was very good in 602 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: week one or. Preseason all. 603 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: Right that's WHAT i wrap it up for rookie tight end. 604 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: Draft to. Recap sewn WENT Theo johnson, undrafted which gets 605 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: assigned a te forty five of The giants who could 606 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: start as soon As week. ONE i went To David 607 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: sanders t e thirty nine of The. Panthers number three 608 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: sewn Went Ben snot tight end twenty nine of The. 609 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: Commanders THEN i Went Kate stover tight end another tight 610 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: end forty five, Undrafted he's on The. Texans Then shawn 611 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: went Brock bauers T e. ELEVEN i went To raymond, 612 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 2: Undrafted sean Went Jared wiwie, UNDRAFTED i Went Devin cope, 613 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: Undrafted seawn Went Eric all tight end forty on The, 614 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: banks AND i Went tara McLaughlin titan forty five on The. 615 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: Bengals so should be, uh should be. 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