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Speaker 1: and become a hip hop and entertainment juggernaut. So let's
Speaker 1: have a moment of silence for Craig Mac, love Buck
Speaker 1: Star Ski and all the fallen soldiers we have recently lost.
Speaker 1: Now let's get into episode part two of our sit
Speaker 1: down with Kenny Burns and Cassanova. Let's go, but what's
Speaker 1: what's your favorite part of the game. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: part of the game. You know, it's the hustle man,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like that that that line from Playing
Speaker 1: for Man. You know what I'm talking about? Life. I
Speaker 1: love the game. You know what I'm saying. It's in
Speaker 1: the drilling. It's in drilling rush, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, husting becomes business, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when you get into it, it's the
Speaker 1: thought of can I do it? But that's any product,
Speaker 1: And that's why I challenged the Youngest Man. You can
Speaker 1: sell dope, you can sell anything. You can sell anything
Speaker 1: you got. My fucker's out here, millionaires that have no
Speaker 1: fucking formal education, nothing straight motherfucker's single parent home, no
Speaker 1: parent home, raised by their grands especially, that's my that's
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the game. What's your favorite part
Speaker 1: of the game. Um, my favorite part of the game
Speaker 1: is proving people wrong. I feel I feel like all
Speaker 1: the way Rock Nation ain't he you know, the fucking titles.
Speaker 1: He said that prove people wrong. You know what I
Speaker 1: feel like. I feel like, oh it smellswerd bro's. I
Speaker 1: feel like because it's me. It's like I was a
Speaker 1: jaenial nigger. When I say jailal nigger, I'm I'm institutionalized
Speaker 1: till this day. Like even my girl would be like, nigger,
Speaker 1: you're not in jail. I'd be like, nah, noah, funk
Speaker 1: that because you might need me go back to j girl.
Speaker 1: You know only her friend was rolling down rich Over
Speaker 1: there makes you you might do that love. That love
Speaker 1: I want to say this. I want to say this,
Speaker 1: That love, though, is keeping you focus, my nigga. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying because without that mother fucking balance,
Speaker 1: niggas like us go less. Yeah, holding on to that ship.
Speaker 1: But me, me personally, I feel like, um, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're proving people wrong. Me, I've been to jail with
Speaker 1: niggas so long. It's like everything I attacked, I did
Speaker 1: it the best. You know what I'm saying. Um, even
Speaker 1: with robbing like dudes in my hood, they was just
Speaker 1: robbing regular niggas. I said that, Um, he might not
Speaker 1: have it on him. You know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm ana wrong check cashing That's what I'm gonna don't
Speaker 1: wait ready for I've proven talking. Know what I'm saying, JA,
Speaker 1: I started just like casing the joint. I'm like going
Speaker 1: in and somebody crib not knowing if they got to
Speaker 1: nod of people line they got to. But I went
Speaker 1: to the check cashing spot and I just case to joint,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So with anything I do,
Speaker 1: whatever I did, I kind of like took it over.
Speaker 1: You know, my boy's head with me when I first
Speaker 1: came home, and you know, I took over. And it
Speaker 1: was a lame that you had to really think, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You had to you had to
Speaker 1: use computers, and myer was like cash, how you just
Speaker 1: came home and and you did that ship up like nigger.
Speaker 1: I watched just like I said, I'm taking heed to
Speaker 1: everything you're saying. I'm taking heed to it because sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to know that what you said about being
Speaker 1: selfish to to make your dreams come true, I kind
Speaker 1: of felt awkward, Like for the last two months, I've
Speaker 1: been like, now I'm not doing that. If if you
Speaker 1: don't want to funk with this, I'm eliminating you, like
Speaker 1: you can't hang around me no more. What it's proving
Speaker 1: you to yourself that you could do this ship, So
Speaker 1: why be in the way of that? So me doing
Speaker 1: all this time, like seven years of some change by
Speaker 1: myself coming home, getting right back to it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the first I came home, I
Speaker 1: was selling dope in jail. They put me in isolation.
Speaker 1: No I got I thank you, thank you, I got
Speaker 1: a car, I got a quarterbacks in the paperwork, they
Speaker 1: got passed. They gave me better six months in the boxing,
Speaker 1: and I was just so broken, like I was a
Speaker 1: man I used to be like damn like I used
Speaker 1: to be so six right, So coming home and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up. I'm talking to my nis like it, what's
Speaker 1: up with the chocks, like I need a chokes nias
Speaker 1: just like jokes like we ain't doing that on the
Speaker 1: robbing me ain't on that. Niggas are soft? What's going
Speaker 1: on here? You're not robbing? It's like we're gonna listening.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, all right, well, what's going on? So
Speaker 1: they ain't at me and shout out to them they
Speaker 1: ain't at me and right, I yeah. They was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the cans might 'll robber. You know something. Some of
Speaker 1: my niggas is like, yo, this nigga is just don't
Speaker 1: leave you bring it you thank you. So now I
Speaker 1: ain't saying nothing, I ain't going nobody nothing, but I'm
Speaker 1: watching and I'm listening. So niggasa is working and I'm busy.
Speaker 1: I'm watching. Oh that's how you do that, How you
Speaker 1: do that, that's how you do that? Word alright? Cool.
Speaker 1: So one nigga fucked up and one lady funked up.
Speaker 1: Shout out to I love her like cook food. She
Speaker 1: fucked up and she was lazy. One day she was lazy.
Speaker 1: She was like, she was lazy. She was like, cad,
Speaker 1: this is how you do this. This that in the
Speaker 1: third gave you the game. When she showed me because
Speaker 1: she was lazy, because I was giving her my money
Speaker 1: to do what I do. She showed me. I said,
Speaker 1: oh this ship it's easy. This is crazy. I called
Speaker 1: my niggas, so listen, we lit. We ain't got no money,
Speaker 1: but watch this. From then, I took off. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I took off, like you said before,
Speaker 1: Wrap all this, Junior, was brought before wrap. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I say, proving people wrong is
Speaker 1: well again, I'm hanging around the right dudes and I'm
Speaker 1: just in the studio and I'm like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: I do that? You know what I'm saying. I never
Speaker 1: said this before, but I'm gonna say now. Showing to
Speaker 1: my motherfucking Swaggy Jazz in the building shot to her.
Speaker 1: He was in the car and we were just making
Speaker 1: a freestyle. Me, Pa, we're just making a freestyle. And
Speaker 1: she would just going in. She's wrapped, she rapped, but
Speaker 1: she don't know she rapped, but she's just gonna And
Speaker 1: I saw her. Baby, I'm using that line. She was like,
Speaker 1: I said, tell me what you said just now. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a rapper because these motherfucker's, these niggers can't
Speaker 1: fucking rap. Whatever they're doing, I could do. She thought
Speaker 1: I was playing next week, I was a rapper. I'm
Speaker 1: in the studio doing ship going in right now. But
Speaker 1: when you went the studio with dudes and shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody. But when you're the studio with the dudes,
Speaker 1: you see how hard it is to come up with
Speaker 1: a song. And see when you hit the song already,
Speaker 1: you just be like, oh, this ship is bad, but
Speaker 1: you don't see the process. So when you when I
Speaker 1: got to see the process, I'm like, Ship, I could
Speaker 1: do that. Ship. I could come up with the ball
Speaker 1: and wait, think and then come up with her next.
Speaker 1: But punched me, ain't please punch me in got puck me?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me hear it be I need like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and I learned. I said, hold on all
Speaker 1: of them years and me writing poetry in jail, I
Speaker 1: could pull this ship on. I could rob Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was writing, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: what you're sending poem to your girl. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Guys right blue you are? You know? So
Speaker 1: you start rhyming, and after a certain amount of time
Speaker 1: all my captions was rhyming. I'm like, damn, I could
Speaker 1: really pull us off. And then I just got lucky.
Speaker 1: You know, a situation occurred. Nigga tran Robbie and I
Speaker 1: just made a salt. Nigga's a real yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really kind of spit ship. That's not you know, Remember
Speaker 1: what I told you I said before first is get
Speaker 1: to the money. It's rapper tend to talk about what
Speaker 1: you lived, not what you're living. I feel like the
Speaker 1: dude try to act like they're living what they're rapping about.
Speaker 1: It is impossible. You're not shooting nobody. You didn't shoot nobody.
Speaker 1: Some people are. But that's just my order. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's backwards when dudes may struggle, struggle, catch their bodies,
Speaker 1: tip people up, do whatever, sell drugs, become a rapper,
Speaker 1: and really want to do all that. Why would you
Speaker 1: really want to do that if you've been through it?
Speaker 1: You know I've been. I've been shout out. I ain't
Speaker 1: think of that' been through what we're talking about. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go through it again. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to shout out to live and shout out to
Speaker 1: my boys. That's with me, right, so cool? The cub live,
Speaker 1: the club I used to pay thirty thousand to get
Speaker 1: and live table and all that table I used to
Speaker 1: leave live after the thirty thousand and the five thousand
Speaker 1: and all the rental outside with no pussy, no puss
Speaker 1: to the honesty, to the honesty. That's a real a
Speaker 1: lot of doing. Say you do all that ship and
Speaker 1: you still don't get no pussy. Nothing's around, right, it's
Speaker 1: a real nickel to ship yesterday. Well today is Monday
Speaker 1: to day, so Sunday go to live and just walk in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they treating you like thirty thousand and the niggas
Speaker 1: that got thirty thousands of working that big time and
Speaker 1: you got your girls. Okay, I got five thousand on me.
Speaker 1: I ain't been that. I'm saying, they feel great, And
Speaker 1: this is the blessings what I'm talking about. You don't
Speaker 1: put in all that work rap to go back. And
Speaker 1: this is why I say I ain't going back. I
Speaker 1: kind of like drilling in my head every time I
Speaker 1: drilled into my head because I went through so much,
Speaker 1: like I don't even talk. I got my mom got
Speaker 1: ten kids, and my father got twelve, and I really
Speaker 1: I probably talked to one person out of my whole family. Damn.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm pan amazing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm say, getting busy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's like both of them, my father is so
Speaker 1: now it's like it's just really real ship. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk too long, but I'm going back
Speaker 1: to where I said pooping people wrong it's because they
Speaker 1: all poop like they all was like, nah, oh this
Speaker 1: is thinking chill like first day out. The other thing.
Speaker 1: He's a hot hack. And how long you've been out.
Speaker 1: I've been out for four years giving up for full
Speaker 1: fucking and I get off for role April twenty six
Speaker 1: this year. It's real. It's real, it's real, and that's
Speaker 1: what I like doing, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: like doing the pulling up on somebody that I thought
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna make it, and even my family members.
Speaker 1: And it feel good to be like, yeah, look I'm lit,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm not in jail. I don't need you,
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need the package. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's a blessing. So me proving
Speaker 1: people wrong is it's just my my my my armor,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And just like how you
Speaker 1: were saying even with son is you could be great.
Speaker 1: You can be great. Why set yourself for failure because again,
Speaker 1: like I said that any other and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to prove it. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to prove it. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, I said, I'm a
Speaker 1: knock and negging teat out right. If anybody evolved late me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna not get to that. So if you you
Speaker 1: say something, you gotta be willing to do. You gotta
Speaker 1: be willing to do. And what I'm saying, that's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Chance now, Katie Byrne, we asked you, what's
Speaker 1: the best thing in the game. What's the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the game. What is something that if you had
Speaker 1: a chance to do it, let me either like, no,
Speaker 1: you you would erase it. You would erase it, right,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't eraised nothing I've done because I've understanding in
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, but the game is you know I
Speaker 1: can't stand I made you want to quit. I told
Speaker 1: him before you I don't left the music business when
Speaker 1: dam and James fell out and were I'm working no more.
Speaker 1: I've seen some brothers. I know. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: coming the game together and build bull trying to about that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about even yes, your insition phone puff to
Speaker 1: to Damon because because I'm sure at that time you
Speaker 1: was because you was puffing number one guy. So for
Speaker 1: you to benbody one God and you being Dames number
Speaker 1: one guy, I'm sure there was somebody mosity, not only
Speaker 1: the puff side, because I made sure everybody was good.
Speaker 1: Just like when I gave Dame the movie Paid Full,
Speaker 1: I wasn't working with him. I just happened to meet
Speaker 1: a Z and took them to some niggas that could
Speaker 1: put them on. You know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: now I don't want don't say that because you know,
Speaker 1: damn will a Z. And then more say so my
Speaker 1: point is that so? So my point is day tell
Speaker 1: other ship too, And I think that's a that's a problem.
Speaker 1: You can't have one motherfucking hustle. I didn't need niggas
Speaker 1: dictate my future on how I'm gonna be success for
Speaker 1: how imna feed my motherfucking family. I went and became
Speaker 1: the second black designer ever to being Sacks fifth that
Speaker 1: with Kenny, I made hip hop grow up. I threw
Speaker 1: had niggas and button ups. That was my ship where
Speaker 1: brother like like Ett, no real talk. I accept that
Speaker 1: challenge and that for anybody who needs the game, because
Speaker 1: the game. I would never walk to Brooklyn for cheesecake.
Speaker 1: That's just not who I am. One second, somebody that
Speaker 1: was great told me, I ain't gonna say his name
Speaker 1: because I don't really like that motherfucker. Nori told me,
Speaker 1: you know what's wrong with people nowadays? They don't want
Speaker 1: to help the people like them. And I caught myself.
Speaker 1: I caught myself. He didn't even know I was on
Speaker 1: a chair. And I'm like, damn, you know, because me
Speaker 1: being a robb or shoot up whatever, I want to
Speaker 1: help somebody like you. And then I'm like bringing that
Speaker 1: nigga around exactly, ain't coming wrong? Watch that n I'm
Speaker 1: telling my man coming, watch him, and that's like watch that,
Speaker 1: watch him. Do you know what I'm saying? You don't
Speaker 1: want to help them, But damn, who helped you? You
Speaker 1: know who gave you that shot? And that ship is
Speaker 1: so important with helping people. But you made the nigga
Speaker 1: need you. But you gotta make a motherfucker need you
Speaker 1: for something. You know what I'm saying. The niggas will
Speaker 1: take anything from you you left them. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you don't have no back. But that's
Speaker 1: what that was my purpose of saying. Never walked to
Speaker 1: broken for cheesecake unless I was getting the motherfucker slice,
Speaker 1: but they've respected that. It's niggas that's gonna go do
Speaker 1: whatever funk you say doing. Gonna be right back with
Speaker 1: the cheesecake. But then niggas ain't going far in life.
Speaker 1: Then niggas gonna be subserviant to direct orders. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's certain niggas they got their
Speaker 1: own niggas like this is a soldier, right, Jay recognized that.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying, whoever put you into motherfucker it
Speaker 1: makes recognized that it's not a sense of what he did,
Speaker 1: it's what he can't do. Ant my artists. I don't
Speaker 1: want art I want partners. Yeah, I want motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: that's what it means. You've been shipped on. You know
Speaker 1: that's because you're in the game. I don't want. I
Speaker 1: don't want. You know what I don't want. That's because
Speaker 1: you know the game. Like what I told dudes right
Speaker 1: before I was wrapping, I have money, But I was
Speaker 1: the shooter, the security, their friends, the nigger you want
Speaker 1: to talk to, the nigga you want to lean on.
Speaker 1: It's cool. Did nigga don't want to be the shooter.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be the security you know what
Speaker 1: they want to be. Let stop. You can't skip the
Speaker 1: motherfucking skip the process. The game though that because the
Speaker 1: game is the way. These motherfucker's are not loyal. This
Speaker 1: is a business built on loyalty. This is a business
Speaker 1: me telling you my man can wrap over in Queensbridge,
Speaker 1: my man from Brooklyn's nice. My then spreads out across
Speaker 1: the world, you know I'm talking about And you can't
Speaker 1: be loyal to that? How you can't be loyal to that?
Speaker 1: And that's like I said, why I left Rockefeller outside
Speaker 1: of the fact that Dame try to, you know, one day,
Speaker 1: talk to me like he talked to everybody else. And
Speaker 1: then it was almost like what you mean you're leaving
Speaker 1: the I'm leaving they you mean keep my last check
Speaker 1: for that fucking change you just bought me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm out the change, I'm keeping the
Speaker 1: motherfucker changing. And it wasn't a rocket Fellers, it was
Speaker 1: my son he damon used to wear with that. I
Speaker 1: got I got that too. But my boys is like
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, my nigga, like, loyalty
Speaker 1: is everything. You know what I'm saying, you can't have
Speaker 1: ship without loyalty, and lord, you ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with being a sucker being somebody's slave. Lord ty
Speaker 1: got something to do with playing your motherfucker's position to
Speaker 1: get to a place where you could be a boss
Speaker 1: of your own, to be on a certain pay, left
Speaker 1: a game. You hear what you're saying. You don't have
Speaker 1: to like a motherfucker to be lord to. My fund
Speaker 1: was in motherfucker's. Don't understand that. They said, would I'd
Speaker 1: rather love or loyalty. I'm on loyalty. You know why,
Speaker 1: because it's something niggause I do not like. I don't
Speaker 1: like the ground they walk on. But I'm loyal to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm moving. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If anything happened, they know I'm going. You don't have
Speaker 1: to like him, motherfucker. That's where niggas suck it up
Speaker 1: at and be like y'all don't like them and I
Speaker 1: don't want them. You don't have to like him, but
Speaker 1: you have to be loyal to him because if he
Speaker 1: in your circle, or anybody that's seen your circle, you
Speaker 1: have to take care of them like that your own.
Speaker 1: Wherever they come with, you have to take that. And
Speaker 1: I never got called him in Dame's bullshit or puff
Speaker 1: bullshit or anybody's you know what you loyal and this
Speaker 1: day do you know this loyal ship? This day I
Speaker 1: won't And to protect that's my that's my duty. I
Speaker 1: can't be no motherfucking o g not giving the game
Speaker 1: get you and I might not a guy. It wasn't
Speaker 1: teaching these ship up. But let me ask you something,
Speaker 1: so you was actually I mean willingly They taught me
Speaker 1: a lot by experience, but I'm talking about willingly giving
Speaker 1: me games. But when you witness because that's arguably one
Speaker 1: of the greatest you know, breakups in hip hop, you know,
Speaker 1: and um, you know us being hip hop and story
Speaker 1: is this was this is based on like how did
Speaker 1: it feel you just witnessing? Like it hurt my When
Speaker 1: did you started to know that? You know, this was
Speaker 1: the first break to the puzzle that was you know,
Speaker 1: this might this might be over? So were the first
Speaker 1: so the first time, right, So when Cam and them
Speaker 1: came to the rock, that's one thing that I want
Speaker 1: to hear what you're gonna say, because it's like they
Speaker 1: got a little shaky when when Cameron came to the rock.
Speaker 1: But Cam and it was self sufficient. Cameron was moving
Speaker 1: the way they was moving. It was dip set. They
Speaker 1: was moving the way they was moving and rocket Feller
Speaker 1: locked in. But they was doing what they was doing,
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of frinchtion. You got Hallm
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, it really comes out then, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So Jay Brooklyn crew with Jay hallm Niggs
Speaker 1: with Dane, I'm saying, Dan't going gonna want to do
Speaker 1: films fake probably one, two, three, four, five, six seven,
Speaker 1: pay for all these things. And you can see the
Speaker 1: motherfucking separation, not because they don't funk with each other,
Speaker 1: but Jay had other plans, Dame had other plans, but
Speaker 1: to see it not be cohesive even when they like Jay,
Speaker 1: got where are you at this? I'm I'm president of
Speaker 1: rock music. And that's when I having the Cole Ray,
Speaker 1: Kanye West, Yeah, all that Shipmantha Ronson. For my point,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm seeing the ship and it first affected
Speaker 1: it when I couldn't put our fickets. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: how the funk I can't put out records, How the
Speaker 1: funk I can't put it, can't sign because Jay had
Speaker 1: to sign off. I remember playing, I remember playing Alan
Speaker 1: Ampony from Chris John's album International This fucking album was.
Speaker 1: I mean, we shot a video for five thousand, was
Speaker 1: on BT number one, all kinds of ship for Jay
Speaker 1: one co signing, and I set in the back of
Speaker 1: his blue man was the person he actually signed them, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was a part of it. I mean it was.
Speaker 1: But my point that was just setting his blue maid
Speaker 1: back in front of them. He told me I can't
Speaker 1: do nothing with him right now, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean you can't do nothing with him? This
Speaker 1: is a whole another genre music We're about to go
Speaker 1: on too and really own. But that's when I knew
Speaker 1: that ship wasn't right, you know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you know, you see here the rams and what do
Speaker 1: you think he meant? I think he had bigger plans
Speaker 1: and they didn't include Dame. Basically, Dan was sucking up relationships.
Speaker 1: Dame was sucking up relationships. Y'all seen the videos niggas
Speaker 1: all over the internet like it was just like what happened.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what happened, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they tried to make that movie to make it seem
Speaker 1: like it wasn't but the deterioration had already started, and
Speaker 1: that hurt me most continue right after that. This is
Speaker 1: a blessing. I just wanted to like, I just want
Speaker 1: to think all of y'all for having me here, because
Speaker 1: I'm dizzy right now. You know, I get so much
Speaker 1: knowledge right now, and I appreciate you know why. You know,
Speaker 1: I asked him of this little cast because I was
Speaker 1: like the only queen's dude. Like if you look at
Speaker 1: all these soundtracks, you look at Street he was, no
Speaker 1: he was on, and one that was on, Like I
Speaker 1: was the only queens n I don't know why they
Speaker 1: showed me low. I don't know why they was cutting
Speaker 1: me checks, but I didn't I didn't question it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just spigging. I'm here. What the you know what
Speaker 1: It's like. It's like somebody saying, don't go to that project.
Speaker 1: The niggas long everybody and you go there any time,
Speaker 1: and niggas that you don't want to even tell me,
Speaker 1: tell you no time, no tell you what it don't
Speaker 1: tell you why why? Nigga? You was You were fucking
Speaker 1: real nigga and you got more ship to offer the music.
Speaker 1: That's what nipa that's why, that's why you got the
Speaker 1: number one part. That's why, that's why, that's why you
Speaker 1: did this two years later. Don't you ain't starting about
Speaker 1: you were real motherfucking and that transcends music, that transcends
Speaker 1: that's genres like you ain't no in no box No.
Speaker 1: But let me depart me for um um because because
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get back to the point. The point
Speaker 1: was if you would have made me say I bet
Speaker 1: my last that they would break up, that they would
Speaker 1: break up, or bet my last they would be together forever,
Speaker 1: I kid you not, because money is a motherfucker. Because
Speaker 1: I used to see them communicate withhout them communicating like
Speaker 1: it was. It was weird. It was when they were tight.
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I ain't talking about when it was weird.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when it was tight. I would see
Speaker 1: them nigga be like and I'm like, the niggas had
Speaker 1: a whole quarterback move like to see for some bill.
Speaker 1: But I was like, holy ship, he's nicking this nigga
Speaker 1: Dame and Biggs like this. I'm nigga people. They were
Speaker 1: going game time. They at one point, this how tight
Speaker 1: they were. They wouldn't look at each other. And that's
Speaker 1: how tight it was. Or so if you wasn't tell
Speaker 1: me like that, you know that would happen. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have It was one of the savest days in hip
Speaker 1: hop because you know, if you look at Puff, he's
Speaker 1: the only one that kept it going rough riders, you know,
Speaker 1: Collas Rockefeller, cause all them all, Andrew he break had
Speaker 1: a little term. No, that was him leaving going to
Speaker 1: do him first of all, big shot give it and
Speaker 1: without without Andrew Horeda would have been no bad boy.
Speaker 1: He brought the champagne to the game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, the fly, the motherfucking ARV with the hipper.
Speaker 1: He brought that to the game. And it wasn't no beef.
Speaker 1: Drey would tell you to this day if he was
Speaker 1: on this show. He let him go because he knew
Speaker 1: he was bigger enough town. He was bigger enough. Time
Speaker 1: Puff was making moves and connecting dots that niggas in
Speaker 1: the normal music busines that we was YouTube was making this.
Speaker 1: Nigga was a motherfucking scientists. Like you said, you were
Speaker 1: studying that. Nigga is a fucking scientists. But guess who
Speaker 1: taught him? You know what I'm saying, so that's a
Speaker 1: nigger because you were saying Dred if you want, that's
Speaker 1: the only nigger that talkmation. It's not right. It was
Speaker 1: the first nigger with a driven and I saw he
Speaker 1: was the first nigger with a bosky yott. He had
Speaker 1: a whole fucking upper Upper West Side. He was an
Speaker 1: artist himself. He was a fucking artist himself, and learn
Speaker 1: the business and taught people that it was a lifestyle
Speaker 1: you had to sell. Who puff have been without the lifestyle?
Speaker 1: Who would he have been without the lifestyle? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, this motherfucker right here. You know what's
Speaker 1: so crazy again? I'm not even I don't even want
Speaker 1: to talk. I just want you to talk. Problem. I
Speaker 1: fucking love everything. You know why because some people forget
Speaker 1: about the life. Uh. The lifestyle you have to create
Speaker 1: can hinder your relationship, your kids, your friends, your family.
Speaker 1: It hinders all of that. You know, you you said
Speaker 1: twenty years so it's like the lady that owned the
Speaker 1: record label. You gotta yeah, rubber back a little. But
Speaker 1: when you get home, it's be when you around your
Speaker 1: friends and he's like, you're you're doing nigger, You created
Speaker 1: something it's no longer when you walk in the office.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be norry. You're not gonna be cast
Speaker 1: when you Once you create that, you have to stick
Speaker 1: with that all the way through tired, sleep, things hurt, heartbroken, stress,
Speaker 1: you lose a family member. You have to keep it.
Speaker 1: We don't on the here because if I'm looking at
Speaker 1: an artist, I don't want to hear yo. But I'm
Speaker 1: in the office side. We want to hear all of that.
Speaker 1: But keep it moving, and that's how we respect you,
Speaker 1: respect people. But I love it. Safari safari, safari safari,
Speaker 1: so far. I want to tell you about what you
Speaker 1: just said. You know why people fun with you because
Speaker 1: it's authentic and nigga that don't know you're gonna believe
Speaker 1: nigga not only because of the way you project your
Speaker 1: motherfucking words and your stories, but because when I'm meeting
Speaker 1: you right now, you're saying all the ship I thought
Speaker 1: it was the truth. Do you know how powerful that is?
Speaker 1: Do you understand that there's not a lot of motherfucker's
Speaker 1: that can sit here and say what the funk they
Speaker 1: said in the last interview, I'm talking about all the
Speaker 1: day they walked out the motherfucking jail as a freeman,
Speaker 1: you're saying the same ship. That's why niggas fuck with you,
Speaker 1: thank you and all these motherfucker's that's on all of us.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the gate keepers been through that and
Speaker 1: without that kind of struggle, you can't really But guess
Speaker 1: what squares do they relate to real niggas. They want
Speaker 1: to be real nickas. You know I'm saying. I always
Speaker 1: use this analogy. Timper cent of the world is cool.
Speaker 1: Temper cent of the world as motherfucking gate keepers. They
Speaker 1: the motherfucking lifestyle. Specially they fucking curate culture like no
Speaker 1: one the nine. They buy the ship. They buying your ship,
Speaker 1: young nigga, like you got it, I'm telling you, And
Speaker 1: don't fucking letter full The sucker asked, nigga, you ain't
Speaker 1: got to be no kind of way on the hooks.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta do none of that ship. That ain't
Speaker 1: you authentically you? You do you screaming with the nigga
Speaker 1: set trip on the motherfucker's not to teep out all
Speaker 1: that ship, but um, you know real talking. Fortunately, Um
Speaker 1: you know Safar he went through an incident. No one
Speaker 1: hears laugh for that I'm on judging him and no,
Speaker 1: so that one the labor fools. No, no way say
Speaker 1: poem bashing. So that happened, Like what was the person
Speaker 1: like you say? Gosh, I feel like she was playing
Speaker 1: at first act. He wasn't playing. I gotta take on
Speaker 1: my glasses, right. I feel like this with with with anybody,
Speaker 1: with anybody that's getting money. You gotta feed the wolves.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Feed the wolves is the
Speaker 1: key of every wrapper that's trying to go through this.
Speaker 1: Do this thing, recall in the change for these people.
Speaker 1: Feed the wolves the niggas that's protecting you or niggas.
Speaker 1: Let me show you I was a wolf when I
Speaker 1: say it was. I say I was a wolf because
Speaker 1: I was protecting anybody around me. I'm not shooting. I'm
Speaker 1: doing whatever the case didn't be. This is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm here for. I know what I'm
Speaker 1: here for. I'm not here to wrap. I'm not here
Speaker 1: to entertain. I'm not just squeeze in the club. Put
Speaker 1: it in my shoe. You know, I said it in
Speaker 1: my one of my lyrics. I said, bouncer checking my pockets.
Speaker 1: He didn't check my shoes. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: chop outside. If you're with you're cool. That's just me.
Speaker 1: You know what. Listen, we're gonna get a little joint
Speaker 1: in here. If anybody front, somebody, go to the car
Speaker 1: and get it. So long story show. I feel like
Speaker 1: Safari and you know we were cool. I feel like Safari.
Speaker 1: Ain't pay the wolves, pay the fucking wolves. You think
Speaker 1: it's something. I was a wolf. I see a wolf
Speaker 1: in my section or in my circle. I'm like this
Speaker 1: thinn't want to get paid because I don't even trust
Speaker 1: this nigga. If I don't pay, this snake like it.
Speaker 1: This snagga moving. You know what I'm saying, you know, shutting,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna show you how relative. It's my man.
Speaker 1: I just posted him my man here right there, right there,
Speaker 1: it's my man. Right. They like your cats, they at
Speaker 1: anything moving. I'm shooting. I said, you ain't gotta shoot.
Speaker 1: But that's all because want killers. Don't want to be killers.
Speaker 1: Nick don't want to have to. I said, you don't
Speaker 1: gotta shoot. I said, yo, bro, this ship is lit.
Speaker 1: I'm just look the first time he came out done
Speaker 1: the whole, I said, Yo, family, bugging, put that gun away,
Speaker 1: chill out, have fun and enjoy life. Right. He was
Speaker 1: like yeah, Like he gave me a little attitude. I was,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch this thing. I don't know. He gotta
Speaker 1: watched stinking many drop me off on a street. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the cab and I'm gonna go to my crib.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch this nigger. But after a while, I
Speaker 1: saw him humbling himself. You know why, because I saw
Speaker 1: him doing things that I won't take myself. And when
Speaker 1: I say that, it's the same bullshit you said you
Speaker 1: go through. When I'm watching him, he on the section
Speaker 1: and the security like, yo, move this way, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm watching them again. I'm watching them. He humble itself
Speaker 1: because I want to took that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling him to take that, but I want
Speaker 1: to took that. So when I see him compromising, he learning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's your gift bags. Then
Speaker 1: I'm bringing him in the house. You're on the couch.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Trush you you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I say that to say trush, you
Speaker 1: point blame period Safari gotta feed the wolves. Some people
Speaker 1: are scared of the wolves because you know what, it's
Speaker 1: not genuine. It can't be fake. You can't just be
Speaker 1: paying it like here, take that, take that, Take that.
Speaker 1: It gotta be genuine love even with you. You might
Speaker 1: have fifty wolves because you're just a good dude. Dudes
Speaker 1: is gonna protect people that they know that just chenuine
Speaker 1: and good. This ship can't and be fake. You can
Speaker 1: pay secuvities only one they when the smoke come out.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. I got I gotta fully story.
Speaker 1: I gotta I got a story. Everybody knows who Haitian
Speaker 1: Jacket is. Right, So I just had a movie. Uh,
Speaker 1: some Universal just did a press release. I'm doing my
Speaker 1: first movie. I'm executive, right, So we're doing this ship
Speaker 1: called Fight Night. It's the biggest heights in Georgia history.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy one. The backdrop was the Ali Cory fight
Speaker 1: when he was coming off the draft ship. When Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali was coming off the draft draft Dollar ship. Like
Speaker 1: so the data ship came out, all my niggers, jeez, Kevin,
Speaker 1: all my niggas calling me your congratulations, and of course
Speaker 1: in the conversation like yeah, everybody from Atlanta is in
Speaker 1: this motherfucking movie. Right. So two days later I go
Speaker 1: to see R Double A and I get this call
Speaker 1: from this A six oh number. Right, This motherfucker called
Speaker 1: me thirteen times from the time I left my room
Speaker 1: down to elevate. I'm going to meet my BMW climb
Speaker 1: next and I know, I s let me answer this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: A must be an e merged but Dominican number. It's
Speaker 1: Haitian Jack, right, and I'm like, Hey, what's up. Nigga
Speaker 1: talked to you in a decade you I thought you
Speaker 1: was dead. Now Nick, I'm alive. And well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you because about this problem you and Dallas
Speaker 1: Austin guy. I said, oh, g you calling me about
Speaker 1: another nigga. You know what I'm saying. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. He just said that you know the movie
Speaker 1: because I heard about the script fifteen years ago from
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin. Right. So when I moved to New to
Speaker 1: l A the launch re Vault, I took all the
Speaker 1: ideas I ever heard of, and I want to do
Speaker 1: film and television because I'm sucking launched revot TV, right,
Speaker 1: So the ship ain't it lay Dorn for like four years,
Speaker 1: but then it came an opportunity. I'm in first class
Speaker 1: where we're back. I said, y'all, I got this motherfucking movie.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this just take you and your ship
Speaker 1: to the whole next you know, I mean, this could
Speaker 1: be your Hallom Knights. If you don't know what Hallom Knights,
Speaker 1: see is hall Knights with the movie with Richard Pye.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, this could be your ships.
Speaker 1: A long story short, I gut's calm, like, how are
Speaker 1: you calling me for this? Nigga? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that mind you? I know Jack, I was the
Speaker 1: young nigga like he said that all the wolves protected
Speaker 1: and love because I was just a good nigga. I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing plays for no money. Nigga, you needed to
Speaker 1: be connected. I'm connecting you because I believe that you
Speaker 1: better than what's going on. You know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1: That's me and something have this conversation. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that this man has. So my point is to what
Speaker 1: you're saying, you got a motherfucking put people around you,
Speaker 1: no matter what the circumstances are, that you feel comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I felt comfortable around that nigga, And that call
Speaker 1: turned in to him talking about his documentary, not what
Speaker 1: the nigga called him about, because I got the respect.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. So what he's saying
Speaker 1: it is true. And you can't be looking down on
Speaker 1: the motherfucking because of they pass. Good niggas do dumb ship.
Speaker 1: Good niggas do ship and funk up and and need
Speaker 1: some do sometimes that they have to do. And him
Speaker 1: showing his man love, show him the irony of it all.
Speaker 1: Nigga looked, I did seven years and Nigga, I did
Speaker 1: all the dumb ship you talking about doing. Look at
Speaker 1: this ship it around you. This ship ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with pistols, to fucking gangs and ship. It's bitches,
Speaker 1: it's weird, it's fucking liquor. We're having a great time.
Speaker 1: And he thought about that ship, that nig over there
Speaker 1: thought about cool. I could play my position and I
Speaker 1: can work my deep rock. Nigga de Ro took the
Speaker 1: motherfucking case for big because he believed De Rock will
Speaker 1: never have to do nothing stress food his entire life
Speaker 1: because of that motherfucking one instance, just sound what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I believe in that, and that's why I'm telling
Speaker 1: you stay true that and teach niggas that don't know
Speaker 1: no better, because niggas we ain't know no better. That's what.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker brought me to an apartment on my fucking West
Speaker 1: eighty third Street and had the whole fucking top floor
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Speaker 1: don't give a suggestion and with its Barbara Walt me
Speaker 1: as me as the likely back to the center. No,
Speaker 1: because you know why me as you know quote unquote
Speaker 1: being a legend or O g or it's the it's
Speaker 1: the way we can put the drama behind, even though
Speaker 1: I know that you both publicly say that there is
Speaker 1: no drama. No. And so recently I seen him do
Speaker 1: a Birthfast Club interview where he actually he didn't say
Speaker 1: that was no. No, Um, we're talking about okay, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't ready for that. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Before he finished, and this is what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you about motherfucker's that do what they do but
Speaker 1: rap and then go back. So now even with TROYA
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing what the funk you were doing. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you create for SMA a character like how you said
Speaker 1: you're a dope boy. Oh powder, whipper powder powder, that's
Speaker 1: a little add powder. But then you're saying middle finger
Speaker 1: from the stand. I don't give a funk about nobody
Speaker 1: but my fan. Cool. We got family, We got family,
Speaker 1: We got we have significing others that we love. Right,
Speaker 1: every time I go out, I'm with my girl. If
Speaker 1: I'm not with her, i'm out of state. Whatever the
Speaker 1: kids before go down. It's kind of like a little
Speaker 1: speech every time. It's like maybe go to the call,
Speaker 1: go ahead, and like how you said with the hand signs,
Speaker 1: it's like that with me and my girl. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like you know what I'm saying. So when I
Speaker 1: say that, I say that to say this. When you
Speaker 1: create that character like you built like that, I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you to not be built like that, but I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, hold it down, hold it down, hold it down.
Speaker 1: Don't funk us up because now we confused. Because the
Speaker 1: confusion coming when it's like powder, then it's like nig
Speaker 1: fuck the streets the streets say showed me no long
Speaker 1: you dumb motherfucker. If you was really putting that work in,
Speaker 1: it would have knew. The streets don't love you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The real niggas know the streets
Speaker 1: don't love them. You know why because they went through
Speaker 1: the struggle before rat So we went through that before rap.
Speaker 1: Even you. You're saying you're not a street maker, but
Speaker 1: when you're around on the street, nigger should be like,
Speaker 1: damn that nigga. My main helping that nigga. I gotta
Speaker 1: send the money. While he didn't asked his mom what
Speaker 1: happened to show that he had at the club with
Speaker 1: him showing was bad. She's not gonna send the money
Speaker 1: for so you understand that before wrap. Oh, now you
Speaker 1: notice the streets don't love you. Now you're saying middle
Speaker 1: finger from the stand. I don't give a funk about
Speaker 1: nobody from by my family, but guess what I feel
Speaker 1: like that now? So instead of you provoking me to
Speaker 1: do something that's gonna make me leave my daughter, that
Speaker 1: know what's going on around the joint. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wasn't there to see my daughter born.
Speaker 1: My baby, Mom's cried, baby shower. I'm on the phone
Speaker 1: on a fifth team in the call when you want
Speaker 1: a fifth team in the call, in the conversation you
Speaker 1: know end and I'm like, yo, who had the baby shower? Yo?
Speaker 1: My nigg is pulled up? Yo? My mom then and
Speaker 1: she's like, no, your mom, no, your family here, but
Speaker 1: your your friends here. And you're like, none of them,
Speaker 1: not my mom, no, my father, no, nobody, nobody there.
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, nobody, yea, but just your friends
Speaker 1: is here, but no, none of my family there though,
Speaker 1: my sister, my brother, nobody know. There's like, no, they're
Speaker 1: not there, baby, But she's not trying to stretch you
Speaker 1: out because she know you're ready to tea. So the
Speaker 1: whole jail, you're ready to punch somebody in the face.
Speaker 1: And it's ten thirty and the phone is on fourth.
Speaker 1: You got one second and you're like, yo, baby, I
Speaker 1: love you. Yo. Nobody did all right? Cool? And you
Speaker 1: gotta sleep with that at night to the you gotta
Speaker 1: sleep with that until seven in the morning. Eight in
Speaker 1: the morning. It's a different kind of drive, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a different kind of drive. And
Speaker 1: with all her niggets, I'll be telling them, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: stay sucker free because this ship to funk you up,
Speaker 1: you create an image. I don't need to create an image.
Speaker 1: You know why, because I did that. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: create a different image. You know how long it took
Speaker 1: me to be around people that possessed, well, like just
Speaker 1: around regular niggas, street niggas, not imagtry niggas, just niggas
Speaker 1: with enough money to make sure happen. It took me
Speaker 1: a long time. I had to get all the jews.
Speaker 1: I had to get the car, the cars, the phone.
Speaker 1: To niggas be like, no, maybe he ain't, he ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get us. He chilling. He could, he could, He
Speaker 1: got the same, you know what I'm saying. I went
Speaker 1: and got the white Gold God Dweller to prove a
Speaker 1: point because it was like Nigga was like, it's only
Speaker 1: one nigga. I saw some Instagram ship one day, I'm
Speaker 1: just shipping white girl. Who is that? That's a sporty No,
Speaker 1: it was somebody with somebody and a street this forty
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, he don't know. I bought it
Speaker 1: from Roly. That ship about sixty two. Don't drop my ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Scott's forty four. It's no I paid. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, and you're right. I'm sorry because I
Speaker 1: didn't get that one. I got the president from really,
Speaker 1: I got it from Dave Blink. But and he taxing me.
Speaker 1: I paid like one he taxes. Thank you for that,
Speaker 1: real dig ship. It's just like I feel like even
Speaker 1: with troy Ya, I feel like it don't matter if
Speaker 1: you're telling none of that. I don't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with me. My thing is, don't me lead the people.
Speaker 1: Don't say this street the street saying for nobody. Once
Speaker 1: you pros that, donline you in there, you suited up,
Speaker 1: you got your vests on, you got your head gear,
Speaker 1: you got everything. This ship ain't for nobody. It's been
Speaker 1: not for nobody. Don't say powder like you're a drug dealer,
Speaker 1: like you're in the streets, and then when they get hot,
Speaker 1: you're saying this ship ain't for me. That you can't quit.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. If your jam over,
Speaker 1: you can't drop the controller, you gotta play this game
Speaker 1: until it finishes. And that's what niggas is doing now.
Speaker 1: Niggas is misleading the people. Don't matter how much I'll
Speaker 1: punch you in your face and knock your teeth out
Speaker 1: or motherfucking don't run, or whatever I say all the
Speaker 1: time every interview. This ship is not the life of
Speaker 1: the street. Life is not the life. It's no ending.
Speaker 1: That's why we see the rappers. We see whoever successful,
Speaker 1: and we'll be like, y'all want to be like them,
Speaker 1: be me setting his books like eight motherfucker time. He
Speaker 1: has so much money, but he's like, yo, I need
Speaker 1: to cleaning ship. I can't even buy a fucking the
Speaker 1: jail a fucking I came to buy jury without worrying
Speaker 1: about the police all that ship. You got all the
Speaker 1: money in the world, but you need some legitimacy. You
Speaker 1: need it. You need it. I don't given how much
Speaker 1: money you have, you get tired of putting the car
Speaker 1: on your bitch name or a bitch you don't even
Speaker 1: know name because your mama don't want to put it
Speaker 1: in her name. You know what I'm saying. Nigga, nigga, nigga,
Speaker 1: you get a race. They're not coming from me. I've
Speaker 1: been with a panamillion mall right, mom telling me if
Speaker 1: the joint you don't want to go to Panama, I
Speaker 1: use crazy. That's what Clessy you're trying to send me
Speaker 1: in a chat no way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when you're dealing with that and you get out
Speaker 1: of that, you cherish this ship so much so because
Speaker 1: what the street niggas do it for. We do it
Speaker 1: for this, Okay, do for the clothes, We're do it
Speaker 1: for the for the holes. We're doing for the cause,
Speaker 1: the cribs. Everything is the respect. So now when you're
Speaker 1: a rap, take shot, look like we are. We need it.
Speaker 1: I'm all right. When you're right, when you're a raper,
Speaker 1: you get all that ship for free. You get the
Speaker 1: endorsed said that ship ain't hard. The time you are
Speaker 1: living for a living, you living life. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: the nigga take that from me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm telling niggas be and sad. Yeah, being sad, me
Speaker 1: being an o g quote unquote legend, whatever, give me
Speaker 1: a life before of that me and we're saying me
Speaker 1: saying that the people that's in control of my city
Speaker 1: right now, that's not cuban. I'm watch when you're cubing that.
Speaker 1: When you're cubing that, you ain't smoking your cubant. Oh
Speaker 1: stop that. It's two. Nig ain't that cuban. Let me
Speaker 1: see the name of that ship. No, No, he is
Speaker 1: one brought up, he brought he got was a listen pieces.
Speaker 1: I don't want you got a new deal giving phillies,
Speaker 1: give him listen. That's a O G. Right, I guess
Speaker 1: I have to actually ask this question, right, And that's
Speaker 1: two people who's I have to look at a younger
Speaker 1: generation and I have to, you know, sit there and
Speaker 1: I gotta watch y'all do what y'all think, because it's
Speaker 1: y'all time. My time has came and went. I was
Speaker 1: still make music. I was still but I'm staying in
Speaker 1: my motherfucking lane. I ain't gonna be you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Bobby, No, Swegen, I ain't doing that other ship.
Speaker 1: But they doing that? What are you doing? Guy? What
Speaker 1: you so as that person got look at look at
Speaker 1: y'all say, damn they got the flag. What would they
Speaker 1: take for? Not for cash and takashi, maybe even squash
Speaker 1: your beat, but maybe for y'all to live cordial. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Were living cordially, maybe because you
Speaker 1: in Miami, you're not in New York, but we were
Speaker 1: living cordially. You know why because again, my life is
Speaker 1: so precious to me now and again we got family.
Speaker 1: So when my daughter do stuff like musically videos and
Speaker 1: I'm creeping on her musically on a fake page and
Speaker 1: I see her doing that dance and you and you're thinking,
Speaker 1: I always put myself in everybody's shoes, Like how he's
Speaker 1: talking to me, I put myself in his shoes. I
Speaker 1: just like kind of do that. That's the thing that
Speaker 1: I do. I put myself in everybody around me, a friend, enemy, everything,
Speaker 1: I put myself and everybody shoes. When I put that,
Speaker 1: put myself in her shoes. And I thought about my
Speaker 1: visits like jail visits, you know, shackled up from the box.
Speaker 1: I'm stay box when you come out and shackled up.
Speaker 1: And I and I think to myself, do I want
Speaker 1: to understand what is musically? And her doing that dance
Speaker 1: from behind bars, it gives me like stream to be
Speaker 1: like you're growing up, but even start to misunderstanding. The
Speaker 1: misunderstanding is because we're looking at that two young Brooklyn
Speaker 1: dudes coming up and we would love for y'all to
Speaker 1: get along, right, like this is what I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: people outside looking at it, you're both from New York,
Speaker 1: you're both from Brooklyn, you both we're figuring most most
Speaker 1: people say you can co exist. The co existing is there.
Speaker 1: He's existing. I'm existing. My thing is again, it's like
Speaker 1: it's internet ship. When I say internet ship, this is
Speaker 1: what I said on my interview, and this is real ship.
Speaker 1: It's just everything of that our beef with is no
Speaker 1: longer here. And this is not like I murdered them
Speaker 1: or whatever. Somebody took them out of a default however
Speaker 1: it is. It just it just catches up, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, when you got so much beef.
Speaker 1: I used to be for niggas that had a lot
Speaker 1: of beef. That motherfucker was just real niggas, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And somebody did the job for me
Speaker 1: and I was just happy. Like ship, I ain't got
Speaker 1: to worry about that nigga no more, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when you're dealing with real nigga, ship
Speaker 1: is like I don't have no beef because if I
Speaker 1: had real beef, it's I can't concentrate. I'm scared. Like
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, I'm just giving the
Speaker 1: nigga said has a HOOLI, No, I was scared in jail.
Speaker 1: In jail when niggas be like, yo, listen, we should
Speaker 1: pend him. I'm scared, old ship. I'm popping quality sold squad.
Speaker 1: They I'm out of here. I'm popping into the fucking squad,
Speaker 1: coming and scort me out of this ship because I'm
Speaker 1: not leaving this ship without beating this nigga. As they
Speaker 1: sat rocky and tell you, just like he said, nigga,
Speaker 1: he came in. I told her that. I said, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm about to take this crib. I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: ship over. I'm watching, I'm seeing who running ship nigga
Speaker 1: busting nigga right outside the hat with the motherfucking what's
Speaker 1: that the nob Remember the nob used to get to
Speaker 1: turn the windows in jail, the metal driver. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm busting up. I already know what's going on in
Speaker 1: my head. I'm not gamest up, but you will not
Speaker 1: play me, you know what I'm saying. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I don't think it's no beat
Speaker 1: because I would have been hunting for him. I would
Speaker 1: have been I would have been on his body. But
Speaker 1: he's a little kid. You gotta understand, well, I understand
Speaker 1: when I understood after his breakfast club interview. Is he working.
Speaker 1: He's working, however motherfucker choose to work. Motherfucker is working.
Speaker 1: You know it gets you mad black, What the funk
Speaker 1: is he doing? You know what I'm saying, motherfucking but
Speaker 1: he working. You gotta understand that he's working. He might
Speaker 1: be working a different way, we know how. But all
Speaker 1: these fucking little niggas is fucking doing dumb ship it
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I would never do that. They're
Speaker 1: selling more than me. They're selling more than you. So
Speaker 1: like ship, just because I don't want to get down
Speaker 1: with it, I kind of understand, like ship, he's selling.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fund is going on. But it ain't no beef. It
Speaker 1: ain't no beef. I don't got no beef anybody I
Speaker 1: got beef with. I'm handling and don't mean I'm doing
Speaker 1: nothing back to them, but I'm I'm gonna step to
Speaker 1: the plate and I'm gonna put that working. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: knocking teeth. How guarantee that I could fight, I could fight,
Speaker 1: I could fight. I'm knocking the teeth out and motherfucker's
Speaker 1: be thinking because whatever the case, and be do your thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about none of that. I'm in my old ram. When
Speaker 1: you in your old lane and you just you're just
Speaker 1: thinking of the prize. Nothing can interfere with that because,
Speaker 1: like I said, now you got five records. Whatever he
Speaker 1: said on the billboard, you know how much I was.
Speaker 1: I have one manking on the billboard street nigger billboard,
Speaker 1: so I could talk my ship. I can't talk my ship.
Speaker 1: When you can't talk your ship, you gotta chill. You
Speaker 1: gotta chill. That's it. He talking his ship. I gotta chill.
Speaker 1: Can he beat me in the fight? You know? I
Speaker 1: think you know that what I'm saying, I think he fight. No,
Speaker 1: he can't say. Don't he want to go to jail
Speaker 1: with me? No? You know what I'm saying. But I'm
Speaker 1: just trying. But let it be know. I still pay
Speaker 1: my dues. I feed the wolves. I send my hundred
Speaker 1: dollars out every week to all that nickers and jail,
Speaker 1: all the apes and jail. I sent my ship out,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So again, do you want
Speaker 1: to be for me and jail. No, I control the jail. Still,
Speaker 1: I'm nigga in jail. So when I go to jail,
Speaker 1: you know, I still call drink champs up. I'll still
Speaker 1: hit you up, like, Yo, what's going on? I need
Speaker 1: I need that jacket? You got that jacket? Okay, I
Speaker 1: can still do that, but my thing is doing I
Speaker 1: want to do that. No, so again you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't let again shout out to tax Stone. I would
Speaker 1: say that tax Stone told me something that was really
Speaker 1: a key to my fucking freedom. He said, yo, cast,
Speaker 1: don't let nobody do to you what I was doing
Speaker 1: to them. M I said, what the fun? Tax was
Speaker 1: a gangster? Trop Tax will wake up and see something
Speaker 1: and just go in on it. I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: some random ship and he just wake up and be like,
Speaker 1: what the funk that nigga? That nigga pussy You don't
Speaker 1: see that in the game, and hit that nigga that hard.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, but you hit it. He don't have
Speaker 1: no problem. Tax to me like, yeah, I ain't got
Speaker 1: no people that nigga that they get someone real soft.
Speaker 1: That ship wasn't really hard. And when he's telling me that,
Speaker 1: because I love tax so much. Shout out to tax again.
Speaker 1: I love tax so much that whatever he said I
Speaker 1: listened to. And he told me Cash, I mean jail,
Speaker 1: I'm banging on you. He said, Yo, the way this
Speaker 1: ship set up, I'm gonna come home when they got
Speaker 1: aids patience for kids. So I started thinking about he
Speaker 1: picks them with kids. I'm like, ship, if you get
Speaker 1: wormed the age, then you gotta get dealt with something
Speaker 1: that then they ain't doing that ship yet. They might
Speaker 1: do that ship two thousand and forty. When he said that,
Speaker 1: it hurt me because whatever is around him again, And
Speaker 1: this is what I'm trying to tell me. What sucker niggas,
Speaker 1: What sucking niggas is they need a way out. If
Speaker 1: it's true, if it's not true, if it's anything about them,
Speaker 1: they meet the way out they meet Samony bull sucker.
Speaker 1: He did a million crimes. He might have did the
Speaker 1: crime that motherfucker's charged for. But he's just telling or anything.
Speaker 1: I'm telling them, nigga, this delling you all right here, nigga, kids,
Speaker 1: nigga brought that. You didn't bring that. They didn't bring
Speaker 1: that there at all. But you're gonna tell because you're
Speaker 1: not built like that. And again to all the rappers,
Speaker 1: to all the young kids that's out, Yeah, won't you
Speaker 1: be successful? You know you're worth You're worth more than
Speaker 1: a jail cell. You don't have to be gangster. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be a whole. Again, you don't have
Speaker 1: to be nothing because it's motherfucking big seawans and motherfucking
Speaker 1: breaks whoever that's fucking in a lane and they great
Speaker 1: and they just successful. You don't have to sell your
Speaker 1: soul to be something you're not, because when you're something
Speaker 1: you're not, you gotta really back that up. Do you
Speaker 1: want to back that up? Do you want to go
Speaker 1: to jail? Do you want to go to jail? If
Speaker 1: you're like anybody, I think about jail so much. I
Speaker 1: think about jail during sex. That's what's the fucked up
Speaker 1: during sex come out by itself. I swear to go yo.
Speaker 1: During sex, I'm thinking get about I'm thinking about yo.
Speaker 1: This might be the last pussy I get like like
Speaker 1: you're thinking like this, you know, like because drinking, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just really jail really fucks up your whole movement.
Speaker 1: It sucks up your whole movement when you hear certain stuff.
Speaker 1: When you see certain stuff, you just be like, yo,
Speaker 1: Nick's went to that in jail, Yo, pick up your
Speaker 1: pants on me. Like like you say, certain ship that
Speaker 1: niggas in the cheeping like nig would be like, yo,
Speaker 1: pick up your pains they get Yo, that's some ship
Speaker 1: that niggas nas wanna get fucked in jail. They can
Speaker 1: do that. And it's like what I'm seeing that like
Speaker 1: we saging this ship, we're doing the street, but me,
Speaker 1: I'm picking up my parts. If like the fun you're
Speaker 1: going on and you're moving a certain way. And again,
Speaker 1: just not to talk too much, it's just like I
Speaker 1: feel like every boy, as much as you want, that's
Speaker 1: should understand. The image you create is the image you
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with. That's a certain to stop
Speaker 1: you for a second. Carrots Want said this in the eighties.
Speaker 1: He said, watch what you say, is you attracted? So
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what you say, Um, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna claim you a crib, the crip is gonna
Speaker 1: come out to see you. You're gonna claim you're drinking
Speaker 1: French fucking wine and chains and all this ship. That's
Speaker 1: because to people who likes that ann come out. Your
Speaker 1: topic of discussion is gonna be different, though. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be different when you're amass a certain amount of success,
Speaker 1: when you travel the world, when you experience different, I
Speaker 1: don't talk to you. So what's what's the next for
Speaker 1: Kiby married? What's that you're coming? Early? Three? Are like,
Speaker 1: what's the next for Kitty murder? So so and this
Speaker 1: is when your lottle she liked you give me my gun,
Speaker 1: give me my real tough, but wasn't actually me is
Speaker 1: family business man, you know the one thing got the
Speaker 1: movie with out, but family business My son thirteen starting
Speaker 1: the clothing line called Beyond That. It's got called be real,
Speaker 1: never selling. Look, we touched my heart real. No, this
Speaker 1: is what I explained to my Nikas. It's just like
Speaker 1: once you, once you lit, and once you are rich
Speaker 1: or wealthy, I'll have you one of I want you
Speaker 1: to see the vision your kids as good, your grand
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do that our parents didn't do
Speaker 1: for us. And that's the point. And that's that's my family.
Speaker 1: Finally relies with his Dick work book. Listen, listen, and
Speaker 1: this this is what he's realizing. Just baby shower, I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm not sure, but having the child, it's the
Speaker 1: most selfless thing you can do that And that's why
Speaker 1: the thing you're asking me, it's about family, because I've
Speaker 1: been I made it through all the shootouts and the
Speaker 1: dumb ship in the track. You know, I made it
Speaker 1: through it and to be head, Yeah, I know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Every legendary gangster you heard of, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The last two decades, it was my
Speaker 1: homies looked out for me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And even going back to the fees, you have to.
Speaker 1: You have to because this game don't exist without him.
Speaker 1: It's too much moving around in uncomfortable spaces for you
Speaker 1: not to be comfortable. You gotta be comfortable. You can't
Speaker 1: motherfuck project your art and specials. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't learn, but you can't
Speaker 1: be who you were meant to be. You can't get
Speaker 1: what you came for without honoring everybody along the way,
Speaker 1: every family business. It's a crazy thing, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people think it's like your payoffs. But what you
Speaker 1: could do is just put somebody that's all they wanted.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was saying that he's not saying that
Speaker 1: different are you doing? You have to My thing is,
Speaker 1: I'm talking a lot. So when you painting, when you're
Speaker 1: painting the picture, some people don't see it. Some people
Speaker 1: are not gonna be there. And that's the people you
Speaker 1: prove wrong. You know what I'm saying. When I saw
Speaker 1: I was rapping, a lot of people didn't believe me.
Speaker 1: Like it was like, you know what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 1: some people I ran into the club. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: I was in l A. So my soul was like
Speaker 1: four weeks old. I was in the This is stuff.
Speaker 1: They try to buck you for their watch. No, no,
Speaker 1: this just this. That was before when I was don't run,
Speaker 1: aybody getting shot shooting up the plateau. The same ship, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, don't run, it's nothing the
Speaker 1: same No, yeah, the same ship. But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: this is weird. Um. I was just getting on and
Speaker 1: my man's just like, yo, what are you doing. I'm
Speaker 1: like getting funk that I'm sending DJ two bottles. I'm
Speaker 1: older than ten and got nigga open that ship. I'm
Speaker 1: on his ass. As soon as he opened ship l A,
Speaker 1: I might go open the bottle because that's like open.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, yo, that's gonna rank. And I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: yo'll play my rank. I had the flash drive. I
Speaker 1: put it in flash I yo, yeah, that's me. You
Speaker 1: don't want you to put it on like yo, it's
Speaker 1: everybody to build. I don't at the time, I don't
Speaker 1: thinking Meek was then flame my ship still, I performed
Speaker 1: free free. I performed in l A like nobody, but
Speaker 1: everybody thought I was somebody. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's my like my ship, like I feel like
Speaker 1: I could do anything, and you know, like we were
Speaker 1: talking in so House, I both. I snucked on the
Speaker 1: on the Powerhouse stage with no mike, no nothing, like
Speaker 1: the micro was off and I told her DJ. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm about to play a song. I said, oh, you're
Speaker 1: about to play my song? All right? Cool playing in
Speaker 1: ten minutes. He didn't know. Shout to DJ Will he
Speaker 1: didn't know. He put that song on and I snucked backstage.
Speaker 1: I rushed on the stage, grabbed the mic and perform
Speaker 1: with no sound. Everybody in Brooklyn at the ball Play
Speaker 1: thought I was performing. They was like boo boom, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was suspended off power on. So
Speaker 1: like when you when you want it, just just want it.
Speaker 1: Like he said, you gotta be selfish. Nobody can't get
Speaker 1: in the way of your dreams. Your baby mother's your
Speaker 1: fucking mother, whoever, because they can't see yet. They can't
Speaker 1: they can't see. Why are you going so hard for
Speaker 1: what you believe in? Until it's form, until they see
Speaker 1: the house, until they see the cars, until they got Yo,
Speaker 1: that's what you were talking about. I'm sorry. That's like,
Speaker 1: you know, plug, when you're like your plug, y'all got
Speaker 1: this ship for twenty and they get like a break
Speaker 1: for twenty theold be like get the funk out of
Speaker 1: here until you come and be like yo, we all
Speaker 1: late and you're looking at a little blacks and ya
Speaker 1: creeping and it's like, Yo, I'm sorry man, You're like,
Speaker 1: you needn't believe me. You're out of head. Moves give
Speaker 1: you out of head. You don't believe I thought you
Speaker 1: believe me. You know what I'm saying, So little story short,
Speaker 1: what you're saying. What you're saying back to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I don't have no beef for nobody. I don't have
Speaker 1: no beef for it. We need to squash all out
Speaker 1: of the years on the strep for New York. New
Speaker 1: York first of all as a motherfucking mecca. If you're
Speaker 1: disrespecting the whole city. You know what I'm saying, How
Speaker 1: can y'all grow? You know I'm talking about and this
Speaker 1: fucking fake internet be for likes and all that ship man,
Speaker 1: that ship gotta cease me, that's what they listen. You
Speaker 1: can't really like game. You can't. You can't. You can't
Speaker 1: feel like you can't cease it because it's how these
Speaker 1: niggas getting rich. Yeah, you feel me, you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't care everybody to die. I love legends
Speaker 1: because of the bullshit and the nigger like this haven't
Speaker 1: gone through. When he come through and say what he's saying,
Speaker 1: you're ready for it, they can get over. Somebody got
Speaker 1: to die if I go, you got to go. Somebody
Speaker 1: got to die, and that the gun shots blow somebody.
Speaker 1: Ship got to happen, you know, ship got to happen.
Speaker 1: And again go through what you go through. That's why
Speaker 1: I ain't never been in a jail preaching to be safe,
Speaker 1: because you gotta his body got to do. But something
Speaker 1: you gotta come still happen in order for people like
Speaker 1: us to be like I told you so, we already
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, but but that's why I didn't and
Speaker 1: you might get my new problem. Didn't do that? You
Speaker 1: generation generation y'u y'all house, I'm gonna show him some shad.
Speaker 1: He's right here. First of all, he's on the men,
Speaker 1: the niggas, on the healing he's in. He's in the
Speaker 1: middle of the healing process. He four years out, he
Speaker 1: spent seven, So give him another three years. I promise
Speaker 1: you he gonna be what he is meant to be.
Speaker 1: I promise you. Since when y'all come to Atlanta, come
Speaker 1: over to the y'all coming, I'm bringing my side joint.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, that's side love. Look you gotta
Speaker 1: really look at it though, because you ain't seeing no
Speaker 1: red face. I just saw him through the side, like sod.
Speaker 1: It's like a cray three years this three years watching
Speaker 1: the teld of conversation, we know. I was like, he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you brought your girl head right first,
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, you ain't bring your girl. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I ain't bring up because I thought
Speaker 1: it was some nigger ship, right He's like, no, we
Speaker 1: got our girls here me fat Joe, I got my girl.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, I'm gonna bring your next time.
Speaker 1: I bring my girl. Hen with the girl. I said,
Speaker 1: you made me bring my girl and you ain't got
Speaker 1: your girl? What the girl? I said, your story over there?
Speaker 1: You you got my phone up. I would have made
Speaker 1: him pull up, made him wait somewhere else. Donna play.
Speaker 1: You don't play about his girl, and they ship that
Speaker 1: again because you almost have him. To be honest, because
Speaker 1: you Panamania, but you like fake Latino. Let me say something.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. You're gonna start embracing your Spamano
Speaker 1: speak Spanish. That listen. In my mind he speaks fully.
Speaker 1: Mana is the only Spanish speak fluid Spanish. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. Cat's this is what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: What you gotta do. You gotta have one Panamanian dirty
Speaker 1: nigga which you right like his clean to watch your dude.
Speaker 1: He gotta san I watch he speaking. You know I'm
Speaker 1: doing right now. Watch Panamanian is like a little Bitsia
Speaker 1: making Spanish. No, no, no, I'll be honest. Ja Panamanians
Speaker 1: Jamaican speak. Some Jamaicans are the smash people. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you already got it. I'm not gonna lie. You don't look,
Speaker 1: but you gotta have one of them. Got the piece,
Speaker 1: the pace, you know, the piece, get everything. Ye liked
Speaker 1: it up. Let me just tell you something in case
Speaker 1: you don't have to go on. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something cas in case you don't know. Um Panama,
Speaker 1: um reggae throne is actually the birthplace, the birthplace and
Speaker 1: that birthplace of your of your name, it's birthplace of
Speaker 1: my name. It's birthplace. Panamaca now is the first back
Speaker 1: that ever recalled it in my life. It was called Panama.
Speaker 1: It's called Panamaca. Yes, okay, so that was like three sixty.
Speaker 1: So I just want to, you know, sit here and think.
Speaker 1: You know, um, Kenny Burns, I feel like this is
Speaker 1: a drop right we can do. You do a sit down, man,
Speaker 1: you're ready, the first sitting down listen A year anniversary
Speaker 1: special edition. So we brought the O G Curator with
Speaker 1: the Young Guard or the New Generation, and we put
Speaker 1: them together and we made a motherfucking Padamoka now or
Speaker 1: this ship that's right, everything and were drinking win. I'm
Speaker 1: embracing y'all. I'm giving out a shot to change your
Speaker 1: life around. Because the Noory Nory sat down with me.
Speaker 1: He didn't know how much it meant to me, because
Speaker 1: I remember when I went to Black Sheep of Everything,
Speaker 1: family friends, and I got in the game. Now when
Speaker 1: I see too much movies after that, now, I don't
Speaker 1: let that thing around me. But I'm letting you know
Speaker 1: the courtesy the Nory, No not me. If y'all want
Speaker 1: the deal, come, I'm gonna give you all the shot,
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