WEBVTT - Episode 124 w/ Kenny Burns and Casanova (Part 2) 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.120 And it's drink That's motherfucking podcast. Mason. He's a legendary 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.200 Queen's rapper. He's agree is your boy in r He's 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.599 a Miami hippop pioneer, his d J e f N. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.200 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:30.360 players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:35.520 one source for drunk drink New year Z. That's time 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:46.280 for Drink Champs. Drink up, Mother Drink Champs. Army. Excuse 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.320 this quick interruption, but on behalf of the whole Drink 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.600 Champs organization, I want to send our condolences to the 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.680 families of Craig Mac and love Bug Star Ski, who 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.200 both recently passed away. Love Bug Star Ski was one 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.520 of the architects and pioneers of this culture we call 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.520 hip hop, and we all stand on the foundation that 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.080 him and his peers built. Craig MC, in his own right, 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.520 was a pioneer who helped Puff put bad Boy on 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.039 the map, later for bad Boy to give us Biggie 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.040 and become a hip hop and entertainment juggernaut. So let's 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.560 have a moment of silence for Craig Mac, love Buck 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.600 Star Ski and all the fallen soldiers we have recently lost. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.040 Now let's get into episode part two of our sit 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.280 down with Kenny Burns and Cassanova. Let's go, but what's 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.400 what's your favorite part of the game. What's your favorite 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.319 part of the game. You know, it's the hustle man, 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.400 you know, it's like that that that line from Playing 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.920 for Man. You know what I'm talking about? Life. I 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.120 love the game. You know what I'm saying. It's in 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.240 the drilling. It's in drilling rush, you know what I mean. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.960 At a certain point, husting becomes business, you know what 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:52.440 I'm saying. But when you get into it, it's the 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.240 thought of can I do it? But that's any product, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.560 And that's why I challenged the Youngest Man. You can 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.040 sell dope, you can sell anything. You can sell anything 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.960 you got. My fucker's out here, millionaires that have no 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.840 fucking formal education, nothing straight motherfucker's single parent home, no 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:17.399 parent home, raised by their grands especially, that's my that's 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.280 my favorite part of the game. What's your favorite part 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.600 of the game. Um, my favorite part of the game 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.120 is proving people wrong. I feel I feel like all 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.720 the way Rock Nation ain't he you know, the fucking titles. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.520 He said that prove people wrong. You know what I 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:37.239 feel like. I feel like, oh it smellswerd bro's. I 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 feel like because it's me. It's like I was a 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.240 jaenial nigger. When I say jailal nigger, I'm I'm institutionalized 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.280 till this day. Like even my girl would be like, nigger, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.120 you're not in jail. I'd be like, nah, noah, funk 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.880 that because you might need me go back to j girl. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.000 You know only her friend was rolling down rich Over 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:07.720 there makes you you might do that love. That love 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:09.560 I want to say this. I want to say this, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.640 That love, though, is keeping you focus, my nigga. You 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.600 know what I'm saying because without that mother fucking balance, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.280 niggas like us go less. Yeah, holding on to that ship. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.200 But me, me personally, I feel like, um, yeah, when 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.560 you're proving people wrong. Me, I've been to jail with 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.440 niggas so long. It's like everything I attacked, I did 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.200 it the best. You know what I'm saying. Um, even 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.480 with robbing like dudes in my hood, they was just 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.960 robbing regular niggas. I said that, Um, he might not 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.440 have it on him. You know what I'm gonna do. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.200 I'm ana wrong check cashing That's what I'm gonna don't 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:51.040 wait ready for I've proven talking. Know what I'm saying, JA, 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.120 I started just like casing the joint. I'm like going 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.720 in and somebody crib not knowing if they got to 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.360 nod of people line they got to. But I went 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.080 to the check cashing spot and I just case to joint, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.160 you know what I'm saying. So with anything I do, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.240 whatever I did, I kind of like took it over. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.720 You know, my boy's head with me when I first 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:21.720 came home, and you know, I took over. And it 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.919 was a lame that you had to really think, you 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.680 know what I'm saying. You had to you had to 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.600 use computers, and myer was like cash, how you just 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.679 came home and and you did that ship up like nigger. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.120 I watched just like I said, I'm taking heed to 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.880 everything you're saying. I'm taking heed to it because sometimes 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.839 you need to know that what you said about being 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.800 selfish to to make your dreams come true, I kind 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.800 of felt awkward, Like for the last two months, I've 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.680 been like, now I'm not doing that. If if you 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.960 don't want to funk with this, I'm eliminating you, like 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.760 you can't hang around me no more. What it's proving 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.919 you to yourself that you could do this ship, So 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:08.159 why be in the way of that? So me doing 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.920 all this time, like seven years of some change by 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.120 myself coming home, getting right back to it, you know 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.240 what I'm saying. Like the first I came home, I 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.160 was selling dope in jail. They put me in isolation. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:28.440 No I got I thank you, thank you, I got 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:36.560 a car, I got a quarterbacks in the paperwork, they 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.359 got passed. They gave me better six months in the boxing, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.440 and I was just so broken, like I was a 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.840 man I used to be like damn like I used 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.320 to be so six right, So coming home and I'm like, yeah, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.640 what's up. I'm talking to my nis like it, what's 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.560 up with the chocks, like I need a chokes nias 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.160 just like jokes like we ain't doing that on the 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.360 robbing me ain't on that. Niggas are soft? What's going 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.280 on here? You're not robbing? It's like we're gonna listening. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.560 But I'm like, all right, well, what's going on? So 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.560 they ain't at me and shout out to them they 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:17.320 ain't at me and right, I yeah. They was like, yeah, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.760 the cans might 'll robber. You know something. Some of 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.800 my niggas is like, yo, this nigga is just don't 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:30.960 leave you bring it you thank you. So now I 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.839 ain't saying nothing, I ain't going nobody nothing, but I'm 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.760 watching and I'm listening. So niggasa is working and I'm busy. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.680 I'm watching. Oh that's how you do that, How you 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.479 do that, that's how you do that? Word alright? Cool. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.200 So one nigga fucked up and one lady funked up. 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.240 Shout out to I love her like cook food. She 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.840 fucked up and she was lazy. One day she was lazy. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.839 She was like, she was lazy. She was like, cad, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.480 this is how you do this. This that in the 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.640 third gave you the game. When she showed me because 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.240 she was lazy, because I was giving her my money 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.760 to do what I do. She showed me. I said, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.240 oh this ship it's easy. This is crazy. I called 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.440 my niggas, so listen, we lit. We ain't got no money, 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:21.760 but watch this. From then, I took off. You know 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.120 what I'm saying. I took off, like you said before, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.040 Wrap all this, Junior, was brought before wrap. You know 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.480 what I'm saying. So I say, proving people wrong is 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.400 well again, I'm hanging around the right dudes and I'm 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:40.160 just in the studio and I'm like, what the fuck 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.200 I do that? You know what I'm saying. I never 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.840 said this before, but I'm gonna say now. Showing to 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.560 my motherfucking Swaggy Jazz in the building shot to her. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.640 He was in the car and we were just making 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.280 a freestyle. Me, Pa, we're just making a freestyle. And 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.600 she would just going in. She's wrapped, she rapped, but 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.160 she don't know she rapped, but she's just gonna And 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.280 I saw her. Baby, I'm using that line. She was like, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.080 I said, tell me what you said just now. I'm 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.840 gonna be a rapper because these motherfucker's, these niggers can't 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.720 fucking rap. Whatever they're doing, I could do. She thought 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.800 I was playing next week, I was a rapper. I'm 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.600 in the studio doing ship going in right now. But 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.200 when you went the studio with dudes and shout out 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.480 to everybody. But when you're the studio with the dudes, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.720 you see how hard it is to come up with 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.280 a song. And see when you hit the song already, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.800 you just be like, oh, this ship is bad, but 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.480 you don't see the process. So when you when I 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:46.120 got to see the process, I'm like, Ship, I could 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.600 do that. Ship. I could come up with the ball 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.040 and wait, think and then come up with her next. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.560 But punched me, ain't please punch me in got puck me? 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.240 Hold on, let me hear it be I need like 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:00.760 twenty minutes, and I learned. I said, hold on all 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.280 of them years and me writing poetry in jail, I 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.880 could pull this ship on. I could rob Yeah, I 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.320 was writing, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You know 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.800 what you're sending poem to your girl. You know what 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:22.120 I'm saying. Guys right blue you are? You know? So 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.480 you start rhyming, and after a certain amount of time 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.720 all my captions was rhyming. I'm like, damn, I could 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.080 really pull us off. And then I just got lucky. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:36.080 You know, a situation occurred. Nigga tran Robbie and I 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.560 just made a salt. Nigga's a real yeah, I don't 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.319 really kind of spit ship. That's not you know, Remember 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.120 what I told you I said before first is get 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:55.400 to the money. It's rapper tend to talk about what 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.360 you lived, not what you're living. I feel like the 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:04.160 dude try to act like they're living what they're rapping about. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.560 It is impossible. You're not shooting nobody. You didn't shoot nobody. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.240 Some people are. But that's just my order. I feel 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:19.600 like it's backwards when dudes may struggle, struggle, catch their bodies, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.840 tip people up, do whatever, sell drugs, become a rapper, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.560 and really want to do all that. Why would you 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.120 really want to do that if you've been through it? 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:34.240 You know I've been. I've been shout out. I ain't 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.360 think of that' been through what we're talking about. I 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.640 don't want to go through it again. I don't even 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.080 want to shout out to live and shout out to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.320 my boys. That's with me, right, so cool? The cub live, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:49.920 the club I used to pay thirty thousand to get 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.200 and live table and all that table I used to 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.120 leave live after the thirty thousand and the five thousand 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.559 and all the rental outside with no pussy, no puss 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:11.800 to the honesty, to the honesty. That's a real a 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:18.360 lot of doing. Say you do all that ship and 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.960 you still don't get no pussy. Nothing's around, right, it's 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.599 a real nickel to ship yesterday. Well today is Monday 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:33.840 to day, so Sunday go to live and just walk in. Yeah, 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.439 and they treating you like thirty thousand and the niggas 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.240 that got thirty thousands of working that big time and 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.240 you got your girls. Okay, I got five thousand on me. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.240 I ain't been that. I'm saying, they feel great, And 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.040 this is the blessings what I'm talking about. You don't 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.720 put in all that work rap to go back. And 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.080 this is why I say I ain't going back. I 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.480 kind of like drilling in my head every time I 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.959 drilled into my head because I went through so much, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.200 like I don't even talk. I got my mom got 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.120 ten kids, and my father got twelve, and I really 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.160 I probably talked to one person out of my whole family. Damn. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.959 You know what I'm saying. I'm pan amazing. You know 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.040 what I'm say, getting busy, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:30.920 because it's like both of them, my father is so 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.880 now it's like it's just really real ship. And I 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.000 don't want to talk too long, but I'm going back 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.560 to where I said pooping people wrong it's because they 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.800 all poop like they all was like, nah, oh this 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.080 is thinking chill like first day out. The other thing. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.520 He's a hot hack. And how long you've been out. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.880 I've been out for four years giving up for full 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:58.680 fucking and I get off for role April twenty six 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:06.120 this year. It's real. It's real, it's real, and that's 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.040 what I like doing, you know what I'm saying. I 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:13.160 like doing the pulling up on somebody that I thought 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.280 I wasn't gonna make it, and even my family members. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.520 And it feel good to be like, yeah, look I'm lit, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.120 I'm good, I'm not in jail. I don't need you, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.520 I don't need I don't need the package. You know 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.360 what I'm saying. And it's a blessing. So me proving 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.839 people wrong is it's just my my my my armor, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.480 you know what I'm saying. And just like how you 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:40.080 were saying even with son is you could be great. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:47.560 You can be great. Why set yourself for failure because again, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.840 like I said that any other and you're gonna have 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.960 to prove it. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.080 have to prove it. You know what I'm saying. When 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.240 when it's all said and done, I said, I'm a 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.360 knock and negging teat out right. If anybody evolved late me, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.319 I'm gonna not get to that. So if you you 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.920 say something, you gotta be willing to do. You gotta 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:07.840 be willing to do. And what I'm saying, that's all 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:17.160 I'm saying. Chance now, Katie Byrne, we asked you, what's 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.920 the best thing in the game. What's the worst thing 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.600 in the game. What is something that if you had 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.360 a chance to do it, let me either like, no, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.680 you you would erase it. You would erase it, right, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.480 I wouldn't eraised nothing I've done because I've understanding in 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.600 the game. Yeah, but the game is you know I 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.800 can't stand I made you want to quit. I told 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.040 him before you I don't left the music business when 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.400 dam and James fell out and were I'm working no more. 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.200 I've seen some brothers. I know. You know what I'm saying, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.200 coming the game together and build bull trying to about that. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.280 Let's talk about even yes, your insition phone puff to 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.760 to Damon because because I'm sure at that time you 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.120 was because you was puffing number one guy. So for 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.800 you to benbody one God and you being Dames number 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.160 one guy, I'm sure there was somebody mosity, not only 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.560 the puff side, because I made sure everybody was good. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.440 Just like when I gave Dame the movie Paid Full, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.840 I wasn't working with him. I just happened to meet 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.560 a Z and took them to some niggas that could 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.160 put them on. You know what I'm saying. And then 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.920 now I don't want don't say that because you know, 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:18.520 damn will a Z. And then more say so my 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.880 point is that so? So my point is day tell 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.600 other ship too, And I think that's a that's a problem. 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.280 You can't have one motherfucking hustle. I didn't need niggas 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.200 dictate my future on how I'm gonna be success for 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.600 how imna feed my motherfucking family. I went and became 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.640 the second black designer ever to being Sacks fifth that 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.120 with Kenny, I made hip hop grow up. I threw 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:45.720 had niggas and button ups. That was my ship where 0:15:48.800 --> 0:16:02.560 brother like like Ett, no real talk. I accept that 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.720 challenge and that for anybody who needs the game, because 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.320 the game. I would never walk to Brooklyn for cheesecake. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.240 That's just not who I am. One second, somebody that 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:17.760 was great told me, I ain't gonna say his name 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:25.040 because I don't really like that motherfucker. Nori told me, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:30.120 you know what's wrong with people nowadays? They don't want 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.240 to help the people like them. And I caught myself. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.600 I caught myself. He didn't even know I was on 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:40.880 a chair. And I'm like, damn, you know, because me 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.240 being a robb or shoot up whatever, I want to 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.600 help somebody like you. And then I'm like bringing that 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:57.240 nigga around exactly, ain't coming wrong? Watch that n I'm 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:02.640 telling my man coming, watch him, and that's like watch that, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.800 watch him. Do you know what I'm saying? You don't 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.399 want to help them, But damn, who helped you? You 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.119 know who gave you that shot? And that ship is 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.119 so important with helping people. But you made the nigga 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:24.040 need you. But you gotta make a motherfucker need you 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.760 for something. You know what I'm saying. The niggas will 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.040 take anything from you you left them. You know what 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.600 I'm saying if you don't have no back. But that's 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.760 what that was my purpose of saying. Never walked to 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.399 broken for cheesecake unless I was getting the motherfucker slice, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.200 but they've respected that. It's niggas that's gonna go do 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.399 whatever funk you say doing. Gonna be right back with 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.080 the cheesecake. But then niggas ain't going far in life. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.920 Then niggas gonna be subserviant to direct orders. You know 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.439 what I'm saying. But it's certain niggas they got their 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.200 own niggas like this is a soldier, right, Jay recognized that. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.520 You know I'm saying, whoever put you into motherfucker it 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.240 makes recognized that it's not a sense of what he did, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.480 it's what he can't do. Ant my artists. I don't 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.240 want art I want partners. Yeah, I want motherfucker's that 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.040 that's what it means. You've been shipped on. You know 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.800 that's because you're in the game. I don't want. I 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.280 don't want. You know what I don't want. That's because 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.719 you know the game. Like what I told dudes right 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.119 before I was wrapping, I have money, But I was 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:23.920 the shooter, the security, their friends, the nigger you want 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.119 to talk to, the nigga you want to lean on. 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.000 It's cool. Did nigga don't want to be the shooter. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.159 They don't want to be the security you know what 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.399 they want to be. Let stop. You can't skip the 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:49.840 motherfucking skip the process. The game though that because the 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.600 game is the way. These motherfucker's are not loyal. This 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.119 is a business built on loyalty. This is a business 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.640 me telling you my man can wrap over in Queensbridge, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.479 my man from Brooklyn's nice. My then spreads out across 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.640 the world, you know I'm talking about And you can't 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359 be loyal to that? How you can't be loyal to that? 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.400 And that's like I said, why I left Rockefeller outside 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.199 of the fact that Dame try to, you know, one day, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.240 talk to me like he talked to everybody else. And 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.000 then it was almost like what you mean you're leaving 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.680 the I'm leaving they you mean keep my last check 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.879 for that fucking change you just bought me. You know 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.520 what I'm saying, I'm out the change, I'm keeping the 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.720 motherfucker changing. And it wasn't a rocket Fellers, it was 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:32.320 my son he damon used to wear with that. I 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.600 got I got that too. But my boys is like 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.679 at the end of the day, my nigga, like, loyalty 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.040 is everything. You know what I'm saying, you can't have 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.920 ship without loyalty, and lord, you ain't got nothing to 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.000 do with being a sucker being somebody's slave. Lord ty 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.159 got something to do with playing your motherfucker's position to 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.480 get to a place where you could be a boss 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.000 of your own, to be on a certain pay, left 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.600 a game. You hear what you're saying. You don't have 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.400 to like a motherfucker to be lord to. My fund 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.680 was in motherfucker's. Don't understand that. They said, would I'd 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:08.920 rather love or loyalty. I'm on loyalty. You know why, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:14.000 because it's something niggause I do not like. I don't 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.040 like the ground they walk on. But I'm loyal to 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.560 you know what I'm moving. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.440 If anything happened, they know I'm going. You don't have 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.840 to like him, motherfucker. That's where niggas suck it up 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.480 at and be like y'all don't like them and I 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.000 don't want them. You don't have to like him, but 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:29.760 you have to be loyal to him because if he 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.119 in your circle, or anybody that's seen your circle, you 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.880 have to take care of them like that your own. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.119 Wherever they come with, you have to take that. And 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.520 I never got called him in Dame's bullshit or puff 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.520 bullshit or anybody's you know what you loyal and this 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.600 day do you know this loyal ship? This day I 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.440 won't And to protect that's my that's my duty. I 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.960 can't be no motherfucking o g not giving the game 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.320 get you and I might not a guy. It wasn't 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:00.920 teaching these ship up. But let me ask you something, 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.080 so you was actually I mean willingly They taught me 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.359 a lot by experience, but I'm talking about willingly giving 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:11.439 me games. But when you witness because that's arguably one 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.520 of the greatest you know, breakups in hip hop, you know, 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.280 and um, you know us being hip hop and story 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.399 is this was this is based on like how did 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.640 it feel you just witnessing? Like it hurt my When 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.359 did you started to know that? You know, this was 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.440 the first break to the puzzle that was you know, 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.840 this might this might be over? So were the first 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.199 so the first time, right, So when Cam and them 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.160 came to the rock, that's one thing that I want 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.040 to hear what you're gonna say, because it's like they 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.239 got a little shaky when when Cameron came to the rock. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.600 But Cam and it was self sufficient. Cameron was moving 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:46.399 the way they was moving. It was dip set. They 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.960 was moving the way they was moving and rocket Feller 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.120 locked in. But they was doing what they was doing, 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:52.959 and it was a lot of frinchtion. You got Hallm 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.119 in Brooklyn, it really comes out then, you know what 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.399 I'm saying. So Jay Brooklyn crew with Jay hallm Niggs 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.440 with Dane, I'm saying, Dan't going gonna want to do 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.040 films fake probably one, two, three, four, five, six seven, 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.399 pay for all these things. And you can see the 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.160 motherfucking separation, not because they don't funk with each other, 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.800 but Jay had other plans, Dame had other plans, but 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.239 to see it not be cohesive even when they like Jay, 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.399 got where are you at this? I'm I'm president of 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.400 rock music. And that's when I having the Cole Ray, 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:27.920 Kanye West, Yeah, all that Shipmantha Ronson. For my point, 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.120 it's like I'm seeing the ship and it first affected 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:35.040 it when I couldn't put our fickets. So I'm like, 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.720 how the funk I can't put out records, How the 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.959 funk I can't put it, can't sign because Jay had 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.080 to sign off. I remember playing, I remember playing Alan 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:49.760 Ampony from Chris John's album International This fucking album was. 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.560 I mean, we shot a video for five thousand, was 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.120 on BT number one, all kinds of ship for Jay 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.119 one co signing, and I set in the back of 0:22:57.200 --> 0:23:00.920 his blue man was the person he actually signed them, right, yeah, 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:02.520 but he was a part of it. I mean it was. 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:04.280 But my point that was just setting his blue maid 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.160 back in front of them. He told me I can't 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.119 do nothing with him right now, and I'm like, what 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.280 do you mean you can't do nothing with him? This 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.359 is a whole another genre music We're about to go 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.640 on too and really own. But that's when I knew 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.440 that ship wasn't right, you know what I'm saying that 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.800 you know, you see here the rams and what do 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.040 you think he meant? I think he had bigger plans 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:32.400 and they didn't include Dame. Basically, Dan was sucking up relationships. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.639