1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast change producers? Like most 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: people change suckers. Welcome to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. I'm your host, Colleen Wolf, and I'm 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: joined by a room that has a couple of heroes 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: in it, Mark Sessler and sixty cent Rosenthal. What's up? 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: It's actually Si? I like sixty Yeah, all right. I 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: thought it's got like fourteen nicknames at this stage, and 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: I've always been a big nickname guy. Is that right, Rosie? 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: You do have a lot. Well. Dan is off on 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: vacation fighting the good fight against Little C. I don't 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: know if we've heard anything from him, and it's cold 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: or not. If he's he sent a message over text 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago to Gregg and West and he 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: seems to be doing well. That's all I'll say. That's right, Well, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: that's good. I'm glad Wes is not with us today. Um, 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: but we're going to power through and uh, you know, 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I keep I keep texting him and offering to bring 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: over milkshakes because, like, mostly because I really want a 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: milkshake too. He hasn't taken me up on that, but 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: I feel like probably after the show, I'm just going 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: to bring him a milkshake anyway, so we'll see how 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: that was like that plan or just like buy a 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: milkshake for yourself and leave one for him outside his 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: place on the doorstep. So it's like all nasty when alright, 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: So um uh, it's the last weekend of June, everybody, 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: this is so awesome. Finally we're gonna get to July 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: four and then we'll start maybe having a little bit 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: of news to get to actually not much. It is 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: a good time though, to mention, you know, because of 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: U four, we're off official Roger Goodell holidays. The next 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday, we might drop a little bit of 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: a surprise uh episode, and you know in the meantime, 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's no longer surprise, but just one show 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: next week for those who are planning one new fresh 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: show on Thursday. Okay, something to look forward to there. 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: We do have some news items that we're going to 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: get through. But do you have any do you have 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: any big time fourth of July? No, I got a car. 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I got a new car. I traded in my car. Yeah, 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: and we got a Jeep and it's a stick shift. 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: So I've been re teaching myself how to drive stick 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles. I am incredibly impressed. I know, but 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: we don't really drive that much, so it's like it's 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: not like I'm sitting in that traffic I shift car 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Terrible. Yeah, there was like a couple 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: of miscommunications yesterday getting on the freeway in terms of gears, 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: But you know, we're good now. I think we're on 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: the same be a little more encouraging about the multi 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: thousand dollar dollar purchase she just made it. It's a 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: least okay, well, it's still I'm sure more than a 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, so it's a multi thousand sally. What's up, 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: my man? Not much? That is a bold strategy callag. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I know I stalled in the parking lot earlier. It's 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: fine traffic. I'm sure it is super fun. Yeah, I mean, 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: so far, so good. I don't even really drive that much. 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I put like twelve thousand miles on the car that 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I had for three years, so it's that's pretty low. Yeah, 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm usually just in an uber somewhere. I'm I I 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: put about the same on mine because I could walk 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to my house from from NFL network. But if I 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: if someone asked me to drive a stick shift, even 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: from my driveway to the road, it would be resulting accident, 63 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: no idea how to drive this? Really, how can you 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: call yourself a grown man? YEA, well, you know, I 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: don't know the answer. I mean, that's ridiculous. Sound something 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that he does that I didn't do, and now he 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: goes in that direction. But I just didn't learn on one. 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I didn't learn on one, and so and then it 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: got to the age where at one point, I remember 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: I had some girlfriend and I was trying to drive 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: around like an abandoned school parking lot to learn stick shift, 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: and like got about eight minutes in that I hate. 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't even like this really so abandoned fun outside 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: the parking lot. But yeah, I also just didn't own 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: cars for like seven or eight years in a row, 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: so it's like I'm not getting back in with a 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: stick shift at that point. That's yeah, that's actually a 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: good thing. The first day we got it, I said 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: to John before we went and did any like test drives, 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to do it. I 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: don't want to like hop in and try and drive 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: stick after like not having done it for like ten 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: fifteen years or whatever it is in Santa Monica with 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: like the salesman in the backseat judging, And so we 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: got the car and he drove home, and then we 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: got to Santa Monica and I'm like, all right, here 87 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: we go. I'm gonna try it, and like I wasn't 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: probably in the best frame of mind to get in 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the car. Yes, of course, I mean that's as you will. Well, 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: that's partly why she no longer. She barely drives at all, 91 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: because exactly it did not go well. And hey, listen, 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm a safe driver now. Um, but yeah, the after 93 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, we're in a good spot. I think, 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: me in the car now. So hopefully, yeah, hopefully it'll 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: it'll survive. July fourth weekend. All right, let's do some news. 96 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Linebacker Zach Or's retirement was a brief one. Five months 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: after announcing he would be playing no more football. He's back. 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: So he was diagnosed with a spine and neck condition 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: where his C one vertebrae was not fully formed. It 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: was something that he was born with, and I guess 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: the doctor he had talked to had said that this 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: would lead to a better chance of paralysis or possibly 103 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: death when he was playing just because of the condition. 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: So he retired in January, and apparently being away from 105 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the game only made him want to be back more. 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: He got some more opinions, and now he's a free 107 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: agent since the Ravens didn't tender him in March. Greg, 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: it's very strange. I mean, I've never heard of such 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: a thing happening. And my immediate reaction was, did the 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Ravens screw this up? Like if it was anyone, if 111 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: the Browns had done this, for instance, wouldn't everyone be 112 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: making fun of them? Sure? Because but but with Azzi 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: knews and it's like measure okay, But I I looked 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: into it. I asked around a little bit. It's a 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: confusing situation. It sounds like there's some hesitation from the 116 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: Ravens whether they would medically clear him. Now reading between 117 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: the lines that they were aware of this conversation with 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: zach Or over the last few weeks, and on some level, 119 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I think it was partly their decision, uh not to 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: jump into it. So it's confusing. They probably wish they'd 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: put that tender on him because or put him on 122 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: the retired list, because it wouldn't have hurt, but he 123 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: still has to get cleared by teams. Just because he 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: wants to play it again doesn't mean he's going to 125 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: play again. There are multiple teams interested, but there was 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: this immediate, uh concerned Well, wait, is this a way 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: for let's say you're stuck on a crappy team, you retire, 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: and then you retire and you're a free agent. It's 129 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: only because the Ravens didn't right next time. If if 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: any time this happened again, they the team will put 131 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: him on the retired list. They wouldn't have hurt them 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: at all to do so, and they would retain his 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: rights and in theory they could trade him right now. 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Because that Carl was pretty good. Yeah, I mean he 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: played really well. And it's interesting because I was like, well, what, like, 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: how serious is this? Because when he retired I remember 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: it was like a very somber thing where he talked 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: about how this was it for him, and the doctors 139 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that he was still playing with it. So 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: I actually talked to a spine specialist. Yes, uh huh, 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: and oh, maybe let's do it. So what he said 142 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: was there's no real medical data on the matter, but 143 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: an unfused C one does not really carry any more 144 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: risk of paralysis than affused SEE one. So he said, 145 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: really that just because there's not a lot of cases 146 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: of it, it's super super rare. But zach Or had 147 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: said that there was a college football player who had 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: the same condition and he played and was totally fine. 149 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: It was his former bail or quarterback. I guess, wait, 150 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: did you just yelp doctors to try to think No, 151 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I know an orthopedic surgeon, and then he put me 152 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: in u in touch with a spine specialist who wanted 153 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to talk more about it at four o'clock this morning, 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: a Pacific time, and I was like, I think this 155 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: is good enough. So well he was like because he's 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: on the East coast, and he was like, I can 157 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: explain it. Well, like, I can can explain it a 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: little bit better to you, the reason why there's not 159 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: any more or less risk with a fused or unfused disk. 160 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: And it would be good if I shake you from 161 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: sleep at four am over continue the alarm. I like 162 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: set my alarm too. I was like, well, maybe maybe 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: i'll like do it because it's seven o'clock there. For yeah, 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I can do math seven o'clock on the East Coast, 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: So I guess, like before surgery, yeah, I was like, 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: that's not happening. But you have to be a pretty 167 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: big time athlete to be the most athletic or in 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: the family. And when he pasked Connor, that's when we 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: knew Zach was legit. When he when he picked off 170 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. People forget that that moment in weeks at Steen, 171 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: I thought that was the moment that the Ravens were 172 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: gonna win the division last year. I mean, he could 173 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: totally he met with the Lions first, he would totally 174 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: change that team. A weakness at linebacker would suddenly be 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: a strength with with him and Jared Davis both together. Yeah. 176 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: I think I've read about eight different teams that contacted him, 177 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: but it feels like the Lions would be a good 178 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: fit considering their linebackers were. I mean that group was 179 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: really weak last year. I think that they added about 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: three linebackers in the off season that could be starters. 181 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with that. Let's move on 182 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys front seven. We have some news on 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: both ends here. So first up, David Irving, the Cowboys 184 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: will be without him for the first four games. It's 185 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: official for violating the p D policy. We first talked 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: about it in May, but it was pending appeal. The 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: appeal was denied, so now it's official. This is quite 188 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a trend for the Cowboys too. This is the fourth 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: straight year now that they're going to be starting the 190 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: season without a defensive starter. Mark It's I was just 191 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: about to say the same thing that this field is 192 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: like a disturbing year after years scenario and I irving 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: this podcast loved him last year and he really was 194 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: one of their most effective pass rushers. It puts a 195 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Taco Charlton to step up from 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: deuce right away. And you know our our concerned with 197 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas defense. I mean, it kind of is at 198 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: every level. It's especially in the secondary. We've talked about 199 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: that on multiple network hits, I feel like twenty two 200 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: times by the time we got to this point, but 201 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: it's it's almost at every level at this point, and 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: there's just more pressure on the offense to do what 203 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: they successfully did last year, which is hold onto the 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: ball for the second most amount of time of any 205 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: team in the league and score points on almost every drive, 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: he could move inside it out. I mean he was 207 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: not only are they missing him, I mean people forget 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: about Randy Gregory. That was, you know, their next great 209 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: pass rushure. I don't know if we'll ever see him 210 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: again at all. I mean, you don't have a great 211 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: pass rush. I don't really have any almost natural pass 212 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: rushers unless Tackle Charlton comes out, you know, swing and 213 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is finely solid, and you don't have a 214 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: great secondary. It's a bad combination. Yeah, I mean one 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: will will definitely expose the other for sure. But I 216 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: think the thing with David Irving is he was banged 217 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: because it was an over the counter substance that are 218 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: used in an attempt to endorse the product. I feel 219 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: like there's a major so I read that too, and 220 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: that through me that like at some point, like there 221 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: were not enough boxes checked here and he is essentially 222 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: endorsing a product that got kicked and kim kicked out 223 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: of the league. That's awful. I feel like in some 224 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: way the league needs to better protect the players from 225 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: something like this, And I don't know, I don't know 226 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: what that is, but there's so many like supplements and 227 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: things that you can the people are using now, and 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if the list that they give the 229 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: players is that definitive. Well, they're gonna have a tough 230 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: time finding another player to endorse them. At this point, 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: I say, it's a tough run for that company. Yeah, 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: it's just also coming from like sort, there's always there's 233 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: always these reasons. Who knows, I don't. I don't necessarily 234 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: believe you know that they over the counter supplement decisions 235 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: or explanations whenever they come out. It comes out every time. 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: And trying to pay attention to what you were saying. 237 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: But Sully came in the room and he was about 238 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: six inches from your neck. He was dropping the means 239 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: read for a little later in the show. Yeah, wow, 240 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: I've never done this. There seems to be a lot 241 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: of instructions. Great okay um. On a positive note though, 242 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, Jalen Smith has apparently one healthy and 243 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: bawling out. That's according to cornerback Byron Jones, who spoke 244 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: glowingly of him on a Total Access here him in 245 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Taco Charlton that he was talking about So Jalen Smith, 246 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: as everybody knows, he missed his rookie season because of 247 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: that a c L and m c L tear and 248 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: the nerves that weren't firing drop foot, all of that 249 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: um and this is after people were saying that he 250 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: might not even ever be the player that he once was. 251 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: He looks like he's going to be a good asset 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: to the team. The players are saying it, and Jerry 253 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: Jones seems like he's pretty sold on a too. I mean, 254 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a player that's it's great because he himself, 255 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith talked with extreme confidence a couple of weeks 256 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: previous to this story coming out, and they did go 257 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: through ot as they went through mini camp, and there 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: were also reports that you could occasionally see something of 259 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: a limp when he wasn't on the play itself, kind 260 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: of coming back to the to the defensive huddle. But 261 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: it's it's I guess the arrows pointing up. It's certainly 262 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: someone that you need to see it happening in games 263 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys before you fully feel confident about this. 264 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: But it's great story. Or playing football again, I mean 265 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: they're kind of playing football. They're not tackling, they're in shorts. 266 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: It's different now by all accounts like in this was 267 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: his reputation at Notre Dame. Like he's really intelligent player, 268 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: kind of a natural leader, you know, Sean Lee talked 269 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: about sort of he was like asking questions and meeting 270 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: rooms last year, like really intelligent questions, which made Sean 271 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: Lee study things. Where so it seems like a guy 272 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: everyone would root for and if if he's physically all right, 273 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: that he'll be a big time help. But it's this 274 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: time of year. I'm not getting carried away. It's June everybody. 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: It's cool for him, though, I mean not to rain 276 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: down on his parade. It has been a long process 277 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: to get to that point where you thought you might 278 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: be a top five NFL pick, and to have that 279 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: sort of injury in a bowl game. I mean that 280 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: was now what sixteen eighteen months ago. That's a long 281 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: process to get back out there doing what you love again. 282 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: And if you're Jerry Jones, this is a second round pick. 283 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: You've had, you had second round. You've had some risky picks, 284 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: and you've taken some players now with Jalen Smith's but 285 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: with other guys with character then yeah, and it's like 286 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: on offense, all these things have worked out on defense. 287 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff's up in the air. That's 288 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: got to be so frustrating for him to just like 289 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: having to talk about it all the time and just 290 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: like read about it all of these stories. So hopefully 291 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: he can get back out there and help them. That 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: defense is is kind of en shambles a little greater press. 293 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: You know that, Colleen, what you don't want to read 294 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: your own press? You know? Never? You know that very well? 295 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, how about this? This is such a crazy 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: story Clinton portis uh Sports Illustrated has an insane deep 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: dive right now on like the darkest corners of Clinton 298 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Porter's life. He thought seriously about murdering the investors who 299 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: drove him into bankruptcy. He lost about eleven million dollars 300 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: with these guys. And in the story he talks about 301 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: sitting outside an office building in Washington waiting to confront 302 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: someone and saying it wasn't about beating them up, it 303 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: was to kill I mean, this is this is a crazy, 304 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: crazy story. This was money for you know, he said, 305 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: his retirement taking care of his mom and his kids. 306 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: But it came right after the whole Bernie made Off thing, 307 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Right after Bernie made off was arrested. Uh this they 308 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: started their own Ponti scheme and it involved a ton 309 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of layers NFL and I think NBA two. There was also, 310 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, he admitted a terrible uh tendency to spend 311 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: his own money before that. I mean Santana Moss's teammate 312 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: talked about that. So there was like a lot of 313 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: layers to this Clinton Portis thing that was sad, but 314 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: him talking about that, he was serious. That he was 315 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: sitting outside waiting, you know, to potentially murder this person. 316 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: And he had a friend I think that had some 317 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: family therapy background that ended up like talking him out 318 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: of this. But if circumstances had a different he's it's 319 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: it's crazy because you think of Clinton ports is kind 320 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: of like the happy clown, funny guy, like that was 321 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: his his thing as a as a player, and to 322 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: see this after his career is you know, it's sad. 323 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: It happens. You read these stories occasionally where these players, 324 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: if they've been wiser not with their money, they do 325 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: have these money managers and a couple of them occasionally 326 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: get totally fleeced out of crazy amounts of cash. And 327 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: imagine that though like the desperation you would feel. I 328 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: don't think murder would be the answer, but like simply 329 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: watching someone going like six years in jail, that doesn't 330 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: feel like the answer either. When you you've saved this 331 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: money up for your family and your children. It's I 332 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think these players some of the 333 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: post career stuff is tricky. Yeah, I mean just just 334 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: thinking about being driven to that point where you're actually 335 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: sitting you have driven, You've gotten in your car and 336 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: you drive, You've you've gone to the place where this 337 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: person works, and you're sitting outside waiting for them with 338 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: thoughts of murdering them, like the place that you have 339 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: to be for that is just insane. And his former 340 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: managers didn't even you know, part the reason he was 341 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: partly so frustrated is didn't no jail time, like they 342 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: can't financial advisors anymore, but no jail time, no prosecution, 343 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: zero punishment. They took the money. I was on the 344 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: East coast last week and found out around like ten 345 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: at night that I had lost my credit card. And 346 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: so immediately I'm thinking someone you know, a it probably 347 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: an irresponsible move by me, left it somewhere in which 348 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: that's true, and then someone is now draining my family's 349 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: bank account. And I started to get up step and 350 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: I realized I only have about six hundred dollars in there, 351 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: so there's not how much damage can they possibly do? 352 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: Where was the card? Never found? It? Had to cancel it? Oh, no, 353 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: did anybody put any charges on it? Well, I mean 354 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: there were charges that I assumed were mine. It was 355 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: a hazy I was on vacation. Things were very hazy. 356 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: Not not by someone else as far as I could tell. 357 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: So I once got a call. I had a corporate 358 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: card at my old job at NBC. I know they 359 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: don't even do that at the NFL, And I once 360 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: got a call for you, at least for me. For me, 361 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: once got a call that said, did you just spend 362 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand dollars at at jfk uh like like the 363 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: terminal three. I was like, no, that wasn't me. They're like, okay, yeah, 364 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: someone somebody clean house of duty free. Basically I think 365 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: they did some an airplane. They basically did something where 366 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: they went crazy at duty free stuff and then they 367 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: returned the money to get cash or what are you buying? 368 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: How much stuff are you buying? A duty free. You 369 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: would think that, yeah, you would like the right side 370 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: of the shop. You would think around the you know, 371 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: five hundred bottle of Johnny Walker black or wow wow. Yeah. 372 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: I I remember I was going through one of my 373 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: credit card statements one time and there were all of 374 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: these charges at Abercrombie and Fitch. And this was like 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: two years ago, and I was like Abercrombie and Fish like, 376 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever bought anything, like yes, I 377 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, this is still an active chain. Yeah, 378 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: so it pending since from the mall. It's weird though, 379 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: like how they can get your information, Like there was 380 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: somebody in the store using my card, so I don't know, 381 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: idea they somehow it contacted the credit card company and 382 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: got a copy of it. The very dumbest thing I 383 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: did recently with this group was we were at a 384 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: um like a podcast meet up in San Francisco before 385 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty and someone asked to sign like a 386 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: her hat and it was a it was a football. 387 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I signed it with my social Security number. I thought. 388 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Then I thought later like wait, why on earth? Really? Yeah, 389 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: why would you do that? I don't know. Yeah, it's 390 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: very cly a trusting fan. Nothing's come of it as 391 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: far as right she It's not like she was asking 392 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: for anyone's social security. He was just like and he 393 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: he signed his name. I believe it's just like everyone 394 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: else you know, gives the full name. He just goes 395 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: like Mark, you know, m A R. But then he 396 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: puts his social security very this took place, this part. 397 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: This happened at a bar, so that could explain part 398 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: of the thinking. Well, I'm glad that another thing has 399 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: come of it. Hopefully that fan will never sell it 400 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: on eBay or something like. All right, um, oh, one 401 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: last story I saw this. I didn't really get to 402 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: dive into it, but Mark, I know that you're sort 403 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: of an expert on the subject. Russell Wilson is on 404 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: a new diet and it's showing it. Uh it is. 405 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of you know, it's it's it's the very 406 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: end of June and I was searching everywhere for some 407 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: story to write, just to prove that I had actually 408 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: been at work today. Yeah, and I thought it would 409 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: just be another one of these things where he's you know, 410 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: cut down on his the food intake and he's changing 411 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: his exercise. But it's this guy that's right here in 412 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Santa Monica, and I believe it's Philip either Gogglia or Golia. 413 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: But he is the uh, same trainer that worked with 414 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Chris Pratt, the actor who remember in like Parks and Wreck. 415 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: He was kind of like lovably a big, little pudgy, 416 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: but in a great way. But then he by the 417 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: time he was in Guardians to the Galaxy, he was 418 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: like ripped like some sort of and I don't mean 419 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: like pudgy in a bad way. I feel like people 420 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: are going to come after me for that. Like he 421 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: just like wasn't like shredded up. No, he was just 422 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: like a dude basically. Side note though, Zach Dresser, one 423 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: of the old podcast producers, he yeah, exactly. One of 424 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: the many uh was that he's at BuzzFeed now and 425 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: they did a did a whole video and like that 426 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: was over five months and he got with the same 427 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: dude that guys like it's pretty close and Dressler lost 428 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: like fifty. He looks great, he's looks he looks absolutely great. 429 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: So basically like Russell Wilson was, he was he felt 430 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: he wanted to trim down and basically, like you know, 431 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Eddie ankle and the issues last year, and he wanted 432 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: to change his kind of body makeup for this season, 433 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: and so this guy put him on a daily calorie 434 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: count that went from previously like hundred, which is kind 435 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: of what like a lot of athletes would eat and 436 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: even regular people, to forty eight hundred per day on 437 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: a nine meal plan that includes like it's almost like 438 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: what you think Hobbits would eat in Lord of the 439 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: multiple breakfasts and lunches, but tons of snacks. Oh my god, 440 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: I want to go on this diet. It's you. You 441 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: should take a look at it. It was you just 442 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: need to have the time to work out, like three 443 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: hours a day. Can you do that? College? Yeah, that's 444 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: the thing. It's definitely for It's definitely for like the 445 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: athlete who is constantly like body crafting all day long 446 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: and like has somewhere right, that's true, yeah, or an actor, 447 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: same deal, but it works. It works. That's kind of 448 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: what it's like at the Wolf Gonzo House. Well, like Socraft, 449 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: We're going on vacation and we have like tried to 450 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: start eating healthier and John gets like crazy and he's 451 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna you know, you know, John Gonzoz. Yeah right. 452 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: John Renald Gonzo more Mar twelve is an American sports writer. 453 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: Was married NFL meda broadcaster College Wolfe. John, who was 454 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: a pieces, resides in Los Angeles with his wife and 455 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: two dollars. Glad we cleared that up. Um, He's like, oh, 456 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: he's paleo right now, so he like only eats meat 457 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: and vegetables and fruit, and so I'm kind of like, 458 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: all right, well, I won't eat bread, and I have 459 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: gained weight on this diet. I cut bread and like 460 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: grains out a diet. No, no, not not eating any 461 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: carbs really at all, Like no carbs and no sweets 462 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: or desserts, and I've gained weight. So I'm going to 463 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: go back to just like drinking and eating recklessly because 464 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: that seems to really work. That was working, well yeah, yeah, 465 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: Or you could do this forty eight hundred calorie thing. 466 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: Wilson has lost eleven pounds and went from sixteen body fat. 467 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: It's only it's only about a mile from our from 468 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: where we live. I should we go? Should we go 469 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: together and just check it out there? Wait? So I'm 470 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: sure it's affordable to hundred calories a day? Are you 471 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: just like eating all day, Like, well, there's a pre breakfast, 472 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: to breakfast, to snack, than a lunch, than a second lunch, 473 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: then a snack and a snack than what's this is 474 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: it does the food like, does it give you what 475 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: the food is? I think it would be shaped for you. 476 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: It would not. You would probably not be eating Russell 477 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: Wilson's exactly shaped for for your knee. It's so not 478 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe more bread, more beer, more, yeah, more 479 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: of everything, just like I just want to go on 480 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: a carb diet. We'll see how that goes. He's like, 481 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: look into it, Like, give me some food that will 482 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: make my Instagram account even cheesy. Greg not buying into this, 483 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: but it's the results, you know. He They showed a 484 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: picture of him from like O t A or from minicamp. 485 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Looks felt wow. Good for him. All right, we'll see 486 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: if it actually changes anything on the field. That's that'd 487 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: be awesome. So I got a text from Sessler a 488 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: couple of hours ago, and he said, for the show today, 489 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: I had wicked bad insomnia last night and wrote down 490 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: something that was keeping me up in the middle of 491 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: the night, A theory I was I was bothering Greg 492 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: with with the I on, I am earlier than I 493 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I honestly came to work with like twenty three hours 494 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: of twenty three minutes of sleeping me And how are 495 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: you like up and running not talking? I'm not doing good, 496 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: but I was writing down something. What was keeping you up? Though? 497 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: I feel like usually there's something something's on your mind 498 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: can open up to. We won't tell anybody generally, like 499 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: guys stress, dad's stress like work life stuff. But you know, guys, 500 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: stress sounds like something that no one could fully criticize. 501 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: Half the population does not claim to know what I'm 502 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: talking about, so I can. But a this was on myself, 503 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: and I wrote this down on you know, just typing, 504 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: and I want you just to be open minded to 505 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: this because this is where I was. Is there multiple pages? No, 506 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: it's one page, he says. Do do we really know 507 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: that someone like George Washington ever existed? Think about this? 508 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: During July four we were told that he was born 509 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: in seventeen thirty two and died in seventeen nine. This 510 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: is the story passed down to us. But it feels 511 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: equally possible that the entire idea of George Washington is 512 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: a complete creation it's logical and accepted for someone to argue, well, 513 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: of course he exists, because that's what was shoved into 514 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: our heads from the earliest days. And the people who 515 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: taught us this narrative were taught at the same thing 516 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: and the same song and dance when they were children. 517 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: And it's comfortable to up this. And people get very 518 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: angry if you suggest otherwise, meaning it's all going according 519 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: to plan. People get angry. Have you been I'm just thinking, well, okay, 520 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: this is the textas not. I don't think I fully 521 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: flushed this out. But honestly, when you think about George Washington, 522 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: it's just these paintings of him crossing the river and 523 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: surprising that there's like a lot of history books and 524 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: stuff like, but what's that? What is all that? It's 525 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: just been passed about the ones that were written back then? 526 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: What about I guess we're assuming that was you have 527 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: to believe that. My reporter question would be, then, at 528 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: what point how did this come about? How did the 529 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: myth of George Washington start? Because at some point it 530 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: has to come, you know, has to begin. I that 531 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: i'd agree with you, I don't have the facts on 532 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: when I think that would have happened. But I do 533 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: sometimes think that all of this, like deep American myth, 534 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: is just complete fabrication. There's there's a if you just 535 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: think about it, not say yes or no, that it 536 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: could be all just a story that we were told 537 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: and we came here at some other time and in 538 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: more in a different type of way. Well would the 539 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Wooden Teething story. I mean to me, you're you're going 540 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: beyond George Washington. You're essentially questioning all of recorded human history, 541 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: all of them, at least of them. Could you trust 542 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: anything real, at least all of American I'm not saying 543 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: that I'm questioning. I'm just saying that I was thinking, like, 544 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: why do we automatically buy that George Washington isn't a 545 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: very neat creation. I think the good point. I think, 546 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: even if even if I won't go as far to 547 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: say that, you know, he didn't exist or these things 548 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: didn't happen, I think your point still raises. It raises 549 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: good questions of how how much of it is true 550 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: and what's changed. I mean, because the Zero History, I mean, 551 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: what's the most popular book, and you know, the history 552 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: of the world, the Bible, I mean that that was 553 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: something that was just kind of talked about it down 554 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: for ages. That was oral history. So someone wrote it. 555 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: This feels like the podcast. I just don't buy the 556 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: George Washington like little wigs. I think it just popped 557 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: into my head that it's just seems something about it 558 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: seems a little patent on the nose. Save it for 559 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: the Heat and Light podcast. Great episode this week. Everyone 560 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: should check out episode four. Well, they're all, they're all. 561 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: What's on episode for We discussed mail fraud. One of 562 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: the two of us had been charge class story. If 563 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: you mark it's one of my favorite story stories. So 564 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: check it out. That's great. Um, sorry to totally stop 565 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: the show with that. Now that was I'm thinking about 566 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: like history books, I'm thinking about wigs, like I'm thinking 567 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: how false teeth. I wasn't thinking that's already there's a lot. 568 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, all it takes is to read three history 569 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: books on the same person and they're vastly different. I 570 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: mean that alone will get you thinking very concerning, you 571 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: know what, I'll I'm thinking about pants. How to elevate 572 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: your underwear game to the next level with me, Andy's 573 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: I can do this now, right? Do I just please 574 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: here we go. I'm gonna wait back here, just looking 575 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: for the drop. You maybe ask you yourself what is meds? 576 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: And you know what? They are? Just seriously solved, feel 577 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: good Andy's delivered right to your doorstep. That's super convenient. 578 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know where the pauses are in this, so 579 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: you're power through Me Andy's. They're designed in l A 580 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: and made from sustainably sourced micromoldl okay a fabric three 581 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: times softer than cotton. Wow Meandy's softer than soft lugsdys 582 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: common at ever changing selection of classic colors, bowl shades, 583 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: and adventurous patterns, so you can tailor your AND's to 584 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: your own personal style. Isn't that so cool? Greg? And 585 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: guess what Mark what? You can save time and money 586 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: each month with a monthly subscription. And if you're not 587 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: ready for that, because it's kind of a lot of commitments, 588 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: it's okay. You can still save. That's because Me Andy's 589 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: is offering off your first pair and just use our 590 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: special U R L meandi dot com slash oh around 591 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. I got the wrong read here. It's not 592 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: oh around the NFL. It's just around the NFL and 593 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: get your first pair, So go ahead revamp your underwear drawer. 594 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: You deserve it. Once again, It's me Andy's dot com 595 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: slash around the NFL shout out to a shadowy League 596 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: figure who finally um I he had a box of 597 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: me ands for both men and women. Yes, I picked up, 598 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: I got, I got too for myself, but I said, 599 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: because he was saying, no, no, there's so many women 600 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: attached to the podcast that we need to give the 601 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: female version out too, and I said, there's not fifteen, 602 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: and so I definitely want to take one home to 603 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: my wife, like and so he said, let me see 604 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: if I can find like enough people attached. But this 605 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: this week handed me a pair that has printed all 606 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: over it and multiple colors like have a night stay 607 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Like what, oh no, that's cool. I didn't see those. 608 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: So this shadowy league figure sent me an email and 609 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: was like, can you come to my office? And I 610 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, mind troubled, Like what did I say? 611 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: And so I went over and he was in the 612 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: middle of another meeting and he just like reaches behind 613 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: him and grabs this box and says that he didn't 614 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: want to email me and ask what size I was, 615 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: so I could just pick out of whatever was in 616 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: the box, So he didn't want to avoid the awkwardness 617 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: of an elder male superior handing you a box of 618 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: female underwear. My god, So I I grabbed a pair 619 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: of underwear out and then I was like, all right, 620 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna walk across like this campus to 621 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: wherever I'm going with a pair of underwear in my hand. Yeah, 622 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I hope, I hope I 623 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: don't drop these. I hope I don't run into anybody 624 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: with these, like I need to hide these by Basically 625 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I got them safely to my car and uh yeah, 626 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: so that happened. Thumbs up there, But we got something 627 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: more important. Weather Underground website indicates the temperature and I 628 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: ran today hit a d nine point two degrees, tied 629 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: for the highest recorded temperature. Are you just trying to 630 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: get on the board of breaking news. I mean, that's 631 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: that's relevant to some people. You need you need to 632 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: come up and I just broke news that the president 633 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: that George Washington just not exists. Potentially. I think that's 634 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: has a little bit more attached to just trying to 635 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: figure out a way to move on from the end, 636 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: right that was good getting their money worth talk a 637 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: little making the leap. Oh wait, do you want to 638 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: do tag talk? I forgot about t do a little 639 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: tag talk? Yeah, Thursday, tag talk. Um okay, So the 640 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: deadline was moved up, so it's now or moved back? 641 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah back because back two days. It's now July sevent 642 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: for teams to sign France Ehies tag players. We have 643 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: a couple still out there Redskins. They are in talks 644 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. I and Rappaport said that things are, 645 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, more positive now between both sides. Uh. And 646 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I think that Derek Carr signing his deal will obviously 647 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: just help things with him. Charlie Castlely was on our air. 648 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: He's saying he didn't think this Cousin's deal could happen. 649 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see anyway. That's that's my that's and I 650 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: there's no reason to doubt Charlie. I I don't know. 651 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like if they I still think the way 652 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: that the last Redskins season ended is been under played. 653 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: That two of their last three games, really three of 654 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: their last five, which they lost, Cousins played poorly. They 655 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: didn't score, they scored one touchdown and two of you know, 656 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: combined in week fifteen, weeks seventeen, and they've always been hesitant. 657 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just feel like they're fine 658 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: going with this year to year thing. I'm with you. 659 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Chefter also can still called it a long shot, 660 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: and I just it there would have been a way 661 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: to somehow get this done at this point. I think 662 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: if they if they really mutually wanted to do it, 663 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: and I just I don't see what happening. Yeah, it's 664 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: it'll probably happen to night. Now that we've said that, 665 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna that's that's definitely gonna happen. We 666 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: put that out in the universe, UM and then Levian 667 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Bell and the Steelers. That's sort of The talks are 668 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: going slow, but both sides expect to push before UM 669 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: before the deadline to get the deal done, which makes sense. 670 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: It looks like his groin injury is okay after that 671 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: basketball little basketball video the hoops bid that he posted, 672 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: so that would make sense. If I mean, I don't 673 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: know what they're waiting for. They need to just sign him. 674 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I think he's just a uniquely difficult player to sign 675 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 1: because the running back market is so low, but he's 676 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: so valuable. But he also has an injury history and 677 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: a suspension history, and the and the tag number here's 678 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: where they were cousins get some problems to tag numbers 679 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: so high it's over twelve million for Leviandell that it's like, well, 680 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: he's not gonna sign it unless he's making on average 681 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars over the next two years, because that's 682 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: what he would get with two more tags. And so 683 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen, and we think they're 684 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: ready to do it. I don't think there's much more 685 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: to say on that one. I just you know, uh, 686 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: And what about Tremaine Johnson. That's he agreed to play 687 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: under the tag for the second straight year. And everything 688 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: that we're hearing is nothing is going to get done. 689 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: Can you believe that this guy is going to potentially 690 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: make thirty one million dollars over to the Rams? Just 691 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: don't seem bought? And well I think they find is 692 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: he a scheme fit? Wait? Phillips like they have the 693 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: thing though, like Aaron Donald's potential new deal is kind 694 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: of tied into it loosely where you could help the 695 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: cap if you maybe signed Johnson to a deal that 696 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: helped the cap this year or next. But they don't. 697 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: You don't get the feeling that they really want him 698 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: around long term. I mean, RAMS fans can tell me differently, 699 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: but did did they feel like they got fifteen million 700 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: dollars worth that at Tremaine Johnson last year? I think 701 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: I think generous Jenkins leaving created some sort of schism 702 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: within that RAMS team of who wanted to keep him 703 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: who didn't, and that, you know, you gotta look at 704 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: it that as a possible regret letting him go. Yeah, 705 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: he slipped a little last year. He had a good season. 706 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: That whole defense fell apart last year too. I mean, 707 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: but it's they've got other they've got other priorities. Well 708 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: that was tag Talk, brought to you by me Andy's. 709 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: They got a sponsored segment to apparently that's what Sally said. 710 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: Um okay, now let's get to making the leap. I 711 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: feel like Dan, this is on purpose. Dan isn't here 712 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: to do making moa like is this was this a 713 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: strategic thing? Now, we just didn't know what to talk about. 714 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: Was searching for a topic. But it's a good time 715 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: to do this topic. I like this one I thought this, 716 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: this is great. I have a couple, we all have 717 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: a couple. Let's go around and talk about who we 718 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: think is going to make the leap once again this year. Mark, 719 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: well already I'll go first. But this ties into a 720 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: series that that Greg is working on four NFL dot 721 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: Com by Away. Just thought i'd throw that out there, 722 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: um and thankful because I'm not working on it this year. 723 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: Once was forty was once forty players. Now it's just 724 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: five and actually I'm mostly doing like groups teams or 725 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: groups it up. Yeah, that's good. If I had to 726 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: do one. I one player that I love watching last 727 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: year was Jamison Crowder, and I with making the leap 728 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: to one of the reasons that I always got tricky 729 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: for me because it's like, what is making the leap? 730 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder you could argue could have been a pro 731 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: bowler last year for a special team skills and what 732 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: he can do a wide receiver. Didn't he leave the 733 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: team in touchdown? He did? Any? I mean That's the 734 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: thing is I think though you can talk about making 735 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: the leap doing even more now the different types of leaps, 736 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: there's different types of LEAs one he can make a 737 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: leap to a whole other leaves. He's never made the 738 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, So it's like, I mean not that that means, 739 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: that's a whole different conversation, but you have to yards. 740 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: Let's not get care exactly was exactly. I do think 741 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: that he showed at times to be in so incredibly 742 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: game changing and dangerous for that all fence. And now 743 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: the question is they're putting him outside. He was a 744 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: slot guy and he's gonna have to face different types 745 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: of coverage. Um, you got Terrell prior to obviously take 746 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: people away from you, but you have no DeShawn Jackson, 747 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: Pere Garson's gone. They're gonna still throw the ball a 748 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: ton and I think he has a chance. If he 749 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: shows that he can match up with number two sometimes 750 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: number one coverage and succeed, it could be a really 751 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: special player for the Redskins. So it's a leap candidate 752 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: in my mind. And if he made a leap, I 753 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: mean that, I think we're talking year and I don't 754 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: think that's crazy because you think, what is Kirk Cousins 755 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: good at. It's it's not going deep on the edges 756 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: of the field. I know he had better success last 757 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: year throwing vertically, but it's it's throwing two guys in 758 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: the slot and you've got Crowder and I know a 759 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: play outside some too, but also be in the slide. 760 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: You got Crowder and Jordan Read both in the slot. 761 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: Maybe they're next to each other, maybe they're on opposite sides. 762 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: That's a lot to handle. And Cousins his best strength 763 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: is picking out the open receiver and just getting to 764 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: a and letting them make place after the catching crowd 765 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: is awesome. Yeah, especially with DeShawn Gone and Pierre Garson. Yeah, 766 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: that opens it up for Crowder. Maybe it'll be a 767 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: career year for him. All right, Greg, I mean, I 768 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: like Mark used to get very stressed. I feel about 769 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: like everything. You didn't up all night last night washing. 770 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: I think it was about to bring up a sore subject, 771 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: but I think it was Toby Gerhardt back into that. 772 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: That really that really hurt you because you you put 773 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: a lot into him, a lot of research, watched him 774 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: quite a bit, You wrote a very compelling piece. You 775 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: really put your name out there. Uh, and then you 776 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: heard a lot about it throughout the season. And I 777 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: think that and in seasons afterwards and emotionally scarred you. Yeah, 778 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: it was. It was this this, this effort was ultimately 779 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: not worth it on any level. Greg, Greg Greg Greg's 780 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: out for Mark today. I think he was. I think 781 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: that was that was very fair, very fair. Have you 782 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: hit on any of your making the leaps, Greg, I 783 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: get like one out of four right or whatever? I mean, 784 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, yes, I jinx is ridiculous 785 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: compared to what we have done with some crazy stuff 786 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: fit plenty. But it's a little secret I learned um 787 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: when I was writing Fantasy football full time. It's a 788 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: lot easier. This was that roadal world. It's a lot 789 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: easier you write. If you're the guy who writes the 790 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: busts list, you're gonna look like a genius. You're gonna 791 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 1: get most of those right, because in the end most 792 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: people write up being disappointing. If you're the guy who 793 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: writes the sleepers list, it's hard to get those right. 794 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: And you know, not that many people really uh overachieve, 795 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: and that's that's harder to predict. So that's why, Well, yeah, 796 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: in our next and next week, we have you know, 797 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: dirt nap teart players ready to take a total dirt 798 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: nap Alright, So for my making the leap my first one, 799 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: which I really believe in. Uh, it's a team and 800 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: a uniform that Toby Garhart wants or and it's a 801 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: team that's snickerd us before and then almost every year 802 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: it's like, now I'm taking the you know, turn doing 803 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: the Jaguars offseason hype piece. But here's what I'm hyping. 804 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: Just their defense. I I don't know, who knows if 805 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: Blake Portles of the offense will be any good. They 806 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: might be a mess, doesn't matter. The Jaguars defense is different, 807 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: I think this year because never before in the past 808 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: have they had Jalen Ramsey entering his second year. Now, 809 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: Ramsey's a guy who Mark loved early last season and 810 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: he was he was ahead of the curve because Ramsey 811 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: was great and feisty early, but he was just good late. 812 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he was arguably the best cornerback in the 813 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: league late in the season. Was talking with Steve Smith 814 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: that that was early and he was great, Like he 815 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: has the I've watched it, you know, getting ready to 816 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: write this piece this week, and he just has this 817 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: competitive arrogance that's like amazing to watch. There was one 818 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: play where I swear he baited Marcus Mariotta into throwing 819 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: across his body so he could try to pick it off. 820 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: He didn't pick it off, but he knocked the ball 821 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: down almost a pick, and you can almost see him 822 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: back and off for a little bit. And then when 823 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: he sees the receiver break or the quarterback up, you 824 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: know Matt Castle and another play in that in that 825 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: same game where he got a pick, the guy just 826 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: breaks and he is big. I mean he can he 827 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: can cover to Marius Thomas. He shut to Mary's Thomas 828 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: down one game. He's a very physical receiver, but he's 829 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: fluid enough where I watched him really shut down t 830 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: Y Hilton for a large portion of that game and 831 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: then Hilton got his and it was competitive back and forth. 832 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: But he can cover all sorts of different types of receivers. 833 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: He can lay people out, which not a lot of 834 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: cornerbacks love to do. And so he is, to me 835 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: the difference of this Jaguars defense than before. Then suddenly, okay, 836 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: a j Bouyer comes in. It's not as big of 837 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: a risk. I don't think to give him all that 838 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: money because he's paired with such a good player in 839 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. Now Collas Campbell comes in, he's up there 840 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: in age on the defensive line, but that's not as 841 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: big a risk because they're so deep on the defensive line. 842 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: Malik Jackson played incredible down the stretch last season. They 843 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: have done the fault Fowler they have in gock Way. Uh. 844 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: The guy who really stuck out for me watching this 845 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: was this guy, Abrey Jones. If you didn't know Abrey Jones, 846 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just saying and I'll stop my 847 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: right now. But if you didn't know him, if you 848 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about them and just watch that last 849 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: month of their play, you would say he might be 850 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: the best player on their defense. He might be a 851 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: pro bowler. Him and Ramsey are a kind of the 852 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: two key guys you have Kelvin Smith. There's a lot 853 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: of fun to watch. I just think their defense is 854 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: loaded and they can't screw it up, and that the 855 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: defense will be really good. Time have you spent watching 856 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: JAG's film lately? I mean I've watched a bunch this week. 857 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: I can I can feel it. I can sense that. Yeah, 858 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: you know a little yeah, a little we got time 859 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: in the oboe, A little coaches film a little game 860 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: pass game passed by the way, you know, nice remodeling. 861 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: I like what they've done. I'm starting to come around 862 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: on this. Locked out of my account right now. I'm 863 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: with you, Greg really struggle because of how burned I 864 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: feel by the Jags. But but part of it is 865 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: I maybe maybe never been in on them totally. I 866 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: used to love Bardles, but not like as a team. 867 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: It's like a fun thing to do every offseason. It's 868 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: just like talk about how great the Jags could be. 869 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: But you can't let like that. That's just an emotional 870 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: response what I'm feeling like logically, like they're they have 871 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: at a pieces. I think if you kind of believe 872 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: in the switch, the coaching switch to which which there's 873 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: something around that, right, I'm with you. I mean, I 874 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: think the defense has all the pieces. If they if 875 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: it's if they somehow, if it doesn't materialize and they 876 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: go three and thirteen again, I'm shipping this team to 877 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: Mars like they are leaving the Earth. Yeah. The difference 878 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: is now, I think like Kelvin Smith really stood out. 879 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: He's in his third season, so I think he's he's matured, 880 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: and Fowler and gock Way they're getting better. Malik Jackson 881 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: took him a little while to get, you know, up 882 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: to speed, but he was great. So it just feels 883 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: like a nice team where there's some veterans, there's some youth. Yeah, 884 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: and Dante Fowler too. I mean that first season it 885 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: was completely derailed with the injury. I mean, he's a 886 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: first round pick. Last year he had a shoulder issue 887 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: that was bothering him, and I think he was bench 888 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: midway through the season a couple of times. Because of 889 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: his play. I think that this will be the year 890 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: for him if he as long as he can stay healthy. 891 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean that that'll that'll be great. If the offense 892 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: is lousy, but I don't think the defense will be 893 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: the reason that they're badness. I think they'll be a 894 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: top ten, top five type of defense. I like that. 895 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: How about this one. I'm kind of playing the odds 896 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: here because at some point the starter just has to 897 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: he's so old and he's so good. But I'm just 898 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna keep making this by making the leave candidate every 899 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: year because at some point it's going to hit Hunter Henry. 900 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: How many more years is Antonio Gates going to be 901 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: in there? He's been like the number one guy for 902 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: a decade. Him and Philip Rivers have this amazing connection. 903 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: But I think Hunter Henry last year he led the 904 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: team and receiving touchdowns. He was tied with Michael Thomas 905 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: for the most touchdowns out of rookies. He really doesn't 906 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 1: make any drops. He runs good routes. He was awesome 907 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: in the red zone last year. Look, it's a second 908 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: round pick, and I think at some point Antonio Gates 909 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: is going to his age is going to catch up 910 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: with him and we're going to see that on the field. 911 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: So I think that Hunter Henry might get some more 912 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: snaps this year, and they're going to try and get 913 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: him those reps to groom him. Because I wouldn't be 914 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: surprised if this is Antonio Gates last season. How how 915 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: old does Antonio Gates think? If Antonio Gates had caught 916 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: this touchdown that I witnessed uh during the Chargers last 917 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: game in San Diego where they tried to get him 918 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,959 Speaker 1: the all time record for tight ends, UH might be gone. 919 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: It was broken up. Who knows, maybe he wouldn't have 920 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 1: retired because he clearly loves the game. He's thirty seven. 921 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: I think that was the reason to definitely come back, 922 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: and he's talked about kind of seating ground to Henry, 923 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: that's a great sign that he said, Look, I don't 924 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: need to be out there every single snap, but it 925 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: is amazing the chemistry that him and Philip Rivers have. 926 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: They've played together for so long. It's almost I would 927 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: see those two guys like finishing each other sentences. I 928 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: think with Henry, I mean, the tight end position is 929 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: one that year one is really tough, and even like Bronx, 930 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: year one stats were not crazy and Henry shows, you know, 931 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 1: statistically as much promise as really any of these guys, 932 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: and he really grew last season. So that's a very 933 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: logical candidate to have a much bigger role this year. 934 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: I thought he was awesome. I mean, it's really pretty good. 935 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: Right in some games, their their whole you know, their 936 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: whole skill position group. Is that is I didn't you know, Colleen, 937 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: you didn't know this, but that is that is one 938 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: of my my making the things. So I'm not just 939 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: limited to Henry, but it's kind of that whole young 940 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: group together. You can throw Keenan Allen in there, you 941 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: can throw Melvin Gordon in there, you can throw Tyrrell Williams. 942 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: Just like this, this young little charge. This Charger's core 943 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: certainly has been been injured in the offseason, so we'll 944 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: see if he like gets up to speed. But that's 945 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: like a fun young group. You like the Chargers, you 946 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: like the Jags. I feel like that saying the Jags 947 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: as a whole team, just the defense half of it. 948 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, should we do with speed? Round? Should 949 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: do one more? Sure, let's go around. Do you have another? 950 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: The second one I picked was Noah Spence for the 951 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers. Um, I had to do an article 952 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: of trying to find for like first time Pro bowlers 953 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: for each team, and the Bucks have so many Pro 954 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: bowlers actually, so I went and picked Spence. But there's 955 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: more to it than that, Like his own teammates are 956 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was my only argument. It 957 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: would be rather weak. But Gerald McCoy's he's the guy 958 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: he picked as a breakout year with Spence, and Robert 959 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: Ayers said the same thing. He called him like a 960 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: fifteen plus SAT guy in this defense this season, And 961 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: you know he had some I watched a little bit 962 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: of him for this piece and just showed some flashes. 963 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that like, along with you know, Kwan Alexander. 964 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent on that defense that down 965 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: the stretch. The Bucks they were overall not a great unit, 966 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: but they had some games where they were really stinging 967 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: down the stretch and I think Spence will I'll put 968 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll put that one on the line there, Yeah, and pops, 969 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: he pops off the screen, just his speed and his 970 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: quickness and cut ten towns. Like they said, how hard 971 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: he's working in the office. I like players that like 972 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: he's he's like in the film room all the time. 973 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: They say they cannot get him out of the facility. 974 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 1: So these things sometimes with the DNA of a good 975 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: year tight end in defensive ender, I think are two 976 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: of the hardest positions to make an impact as a rookie. 977 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: So if you can make an impact like Henry did, 978 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: like uh, like Spence did. Yeah, and he was playing 979 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: with torn laborum, which he was able to do all 980 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: of that and not be one. So when he's one hundred, 981 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to be so much better. This 982 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 1: might be the first time we're talking Bucks without the kicker. 983 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: Kicker bad, Well, you just did mention the kicker anymore? Yeah, well, 984 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: let's hear it. Let's hear it. Then we haven't heard 985 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: an Aguayo update. The biggest cliffhanger since that one episode 986 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: of Friends. When Rachel went to meet Ross at the 987 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: airport after his work trip to China. It was stunned 988 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: to see Ross cuddling up to his new squeeze Julie. 989 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't get old, ridiculous. It's okay. They are there 990 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: for Hard Knocks. After being saddled you know, I'm sorry 991 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: Amazon and NFL Films, But after being saddled with the 992 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: rams for Hard Knocks and all or nothing back to back, 993 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: I am excited for a little hard knocks. Tampa Bay 994 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: Bucks they picked up. Yeah, especially with DeShawn there. I 995 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: don't like having covered him in Philly. That's he'll be 996 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: a good character. There's a lot to like. I mean, 997 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: Mike Smith back in the mix. Wow, Yeah, hot to 998 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: the touch. Al Right, Greggy another I do. I'm gonna 999 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: go again with an entire defensive unit. Bend in the 1000 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: rules a little bit here, huh. I don't know, there's 1001 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: there there's no rules, there are no rules. I'm going 1002 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: with the Falcons defense. I know they were in the 1003 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl past, year, but that they're the reason they 1004 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: didn't win the Super Bowl last year. They weren't a 1005 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: good defense. We spent a lot of the Super Bowl 1006 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: week trying to bend over backwards saying, Okay, you know, 1007 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: dan Quinn's really getting his you know, mojo going, and 1008 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: they've they've improved, and it's it's like, no, they gave 1009 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: up a ton of yards, a ton of points. Yes, 1010 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: they did better, uh in the NFC playoffs, certainly against 1011 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and Packers. But the reason they won those 1012 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 1: games were was offense. Offense, offense, and for the most 1013 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: part it was a problematic defense throughout the year. Yet 1014 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: I think they were so young and they had a 1015 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of injuries. They didn't have Desmond Truffont, and I 1016 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: just like the mix of them, and I do like 1017 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: dan Quinn. I think it takes a while people don't 1018 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: think about it, to really get your own system going. 1019 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: This is dan Quinn's third year in Atlanta. These guys 1020 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: have now been with him in between Dion Jones and 1021 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil, and I really like Grady Jarrett upfront. You 1022 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: bring in don Terry po it's just Vic Beasley. You 1023 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,399 Speaker 1: draft McKinley. It's just a lot of young pieces who 1024 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: I think have a lot of speed and they'll be 1025 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: helped out by that offense. And I think that defense, 1026 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: this team has so much room for improvement because the 1027 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: defense was not in the top twenty tow defenses in 1028 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: the league last year, and yet they were still that 1029 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: good as a team. The players that they have drafted 1030 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: under Bradley have they've developed quickly. Right, that's a great 1031 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: sign and right, and that's let's you know, it's the 1032 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: same system nineties something percent as Gus Bradley's and that 1033 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: wasn't happening in Jacksonville or Gus Bradley. So I think 1034 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: that that I think this is a great pick for 1035 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: that because they if what they if they can keep 1036 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: growing from where we saw in the playoffs into this 1037 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: season half season three quarters through h Yeah, dan Quinn, 1038 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: I think he's done a really good job just like 1039 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: grooming these guys. They're they're so young and they have 1040 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: so much talent, and there was a lot of rookies, right, 1041 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean that they expected a lot out of to 1042 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: be on such a big stage with not a lot 1043 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: of experience and pretty deep in the secondary, like Robert 1044 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 1: Alford has a big contract. He was you know, injured 1045 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: as well. Jalen Collins, Like, it's just a group. I 1046 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: think they're kind of buffeted or I don't know what 1047 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: the word is, that they're not at that big of 1048 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: a risk of falling off because I think a buffer, 1049 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: have a buffer, even though the offense has got to 1050 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: fall backwards. I think the defense is naturally like they 1051 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 1: can't help but improve this year. Yeah, alright, so you went. 1052 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: You went double defense though, Okay, I'm going double Oh, 1053 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm going. When was the last time we talked about 1054 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: the Colts on the show? A lot of Chris Ballard 1055 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about the team. How about a little Dante Moncreef. 1056 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: I think he was probably on the list last year, 1057 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: and that makes that makes total sense because everybody was 1058 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: really high on him last year, and I think that we're, yeah, 1059 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: we're Oh, that makes me feel even better. So we were. 1060 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: I think we were all in agreement that the expectations 1061 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: for him were really high and that he was talented, 1062 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: but um he I think he would have made the 1063 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: leap if he didn't get hurt. Last year. He only 1064 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: had a three and seven yards, but he scored seven 1065 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: touchdowns in nine games hundred yards last year. Yeah, and 1066 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: two of those nine games he didn't even finish because 1067 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: he got hurt. So he scored in every single game 1068 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 1: that he finished when he was healthy. He's a super 1069 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: physical guy. He should be. Andrew Luck's probably favorite red 1070 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: zone target, so I would expect a lot of scores 1071 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: from him. And if Andrew luck shoulder is good, I 1072 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: think Dante Moncrief will be too. Yeah. I mean, you 1073 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: want to see the whole offense get back to what 1074 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: they were doing if if that's what's going to happen here, 1075 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: and I think they they've they've finally addressed the line 1076 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: to some degree, and if they can keep Luck healthy, 1077 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: then it's a huge arrow up for a guy like Moncrief. 1078 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: And he's only turning in August. He was a young 1079 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 1: player entering the league. So the fact that he's entering 1080 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: his fourth season and just turning, I'm with you. I 1081 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: think there's nothing that really should stop him from making 1082 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: that leap. It doesn't hurt to have the NFL's leading 1083 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: receiver on your team either, No, No, that can only 1084 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: help it away a little bit of attention, that's right, 1085 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: all right, So that's it for making the leap. Guys, 1086 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: when is your article coming out? I have a Steelers 1087 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: one up already thinking the leap, So they're coming out 1088 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: a couple couple of weeks, so you're not five of them. 1089 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,720 Speaker 1: There's another Jaguars one coming out, so it's a full 1090 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: article for each leap candidates as a group. That's how 1091 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: we do it. That's how we used to do it, 1092 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: most of us. So Greg, does it now? Got me 1093 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: off that shore? Does anybody have July four plans? No? 1094 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: Not really? Its snuck up this time. I know. Figure 1095 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: it out, alright, not get arrested something. Let's let's uh, 1096 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: let's figure this out. Get arrested. That's a star. That's 1097 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: not get arrested by some firearms that are across the 1098 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 1: street from the NFL media fireworks, fireworks, go to the beach, 1099 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: some beer, get crazy. That sounds danger risk, but I'll 1100 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: like it four July. So let's do this all right, 1101 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up. This has been great. When are 1102 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: we back again? Back again? Monday too, backing in with 1103 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: a fresh show? Thursday? Oh Thursday, that's right, and it's 1104 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: a surprise. Get excited, all right, everybody. Amount I'm spent 1105 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: that's it until next week.