Speaker 1: Well, well, well, the finals are tied.
Speaker 2: What is it the finals?
Speaker 3: Well, well, I thought it was gonna be something a
Speaker 3: little bit different, but it's tied one one and as
Speaker 3: the teams had the South beat for tonight's pivotal Game three,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get into the series plus some of when
Speaker 3: Beyama's latest highlights. Oh My with Bleacher Reports Molly Morrison
Speaker 3: on today's episode.
Speaker 4: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was kind of a Kermit vive.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Molly Morrison a Bleacher Report, Welcome to Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you guys for having me. I'm excited to
Speaker 6: be here.
Speaker 4: Do you have not one but two cats?
Speaker 6: I do have two cats?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I thought you had either one very fast
Speaker 1: cat that was able to go from one side of the.
Speaker 6: Screen to the too, and they like to appear in
Speaker 6: all the podcasts I'm in, So you'll be seeing them.
Speaker 4: Okay, fantastic, fantastic, We love that around here.
Speaker 2: How are you enjoying the Finals? Thus far? We are
Speaker 2: one game behind the listeners. But games one and two,
Speaker 2: I feel like I can start telling my not like
Speaker 2: super big basketball fan friends to watch right, which I
Speaker 2: feel like they're not.
Speaker 6: Yeah they weren't, so might as well tell now. I
Speaker 6: feel great. I thought it was going to be a
Speaker 6: fun matchup, and it is a fun matchup, you know.
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of people were quick to
Speaker 6: sort of push Miami out of the equation after Game one,
Speaker 6: which people do. People are very reactionary, you know, oh,
Speaker 6: it's going to be a sweep. Oh, nuggets and five
Speaker 6: and still could be Nuggets and five. But I thought,
Speaker 6: you know, this was going to be a good series,
Speaker 6: and it's it's looking like it's shaving out to be one.
Speaker 2: I just Denver had figured them out in game one.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite. We keep hearing over and over they
Speaker 2: figured them out. But the Heat have now figured yokitch out,
Speaker 2: so it's over the Heat.
Speaker 6: And yeah, yeah, I loved coach Boe so quick to
Speaker 6: dismiss that question the other day about about defending, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, are you just doing that because she you
Speaker 6: know what strategy.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: He was a little he was a little too eager
Speaker 6: to shut that down. But I thought it was a
Speaker 6: fair question, and you know, I think there are ways
Speaker 6: to figure out Denver, and I still think Denver is
Speaker 6: gonna win the series. But I think that my theory
Speaker 6: is whoever wins Game three wins the series.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll get into that clip too. We're gonna
Speaker 2: play it and talk about it, because yeah, we're trying
Speaker 2: to decide if it's really some galaxy brain like he's
Speaker 2: just like, oh, that's what you pour mortals. He's coaching
Speaker 2: so well, he's like making brilliant decisions. So it could
Speaker 2: be that, or it could be this is this is
Speaker 2: how I would have reacted if I had one idea
Speaker 2: and like somebody was just like, so you just did
Speaker 2: this right, No, because there's a point where he like
Speaker 2: puts his eyes in his hand, which is what I
Speaker 2: would do too, when I'm like, oh, oh, don't let
Speaker 2: you for a second.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I need to get ahead of y'all there. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I actually didn't read any of the discourse about that,
Speaker 6: so I was that like sort of what people were
Speaker 6: thinking that it was one of those two.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like anything, right, Like I mean
Speaker 1: the broad point of like you can you're going to
Speaker 1: turn Yoki into a score, you're gonna turn into a passer.
Speaker 1: Many people have talked about that over the year. Steve
Speaker 1: Kurr been talking about that too, But I think I
Speaker 1: think more for us, we were just we were really
Speaker 1: interested in the reaction.
Speaker 6: Yah.
Speaker 1: It's either like, were you you seem pressed by like
Speaker 1: being asked that question in a way that felt a
Speaker 1: little less like zen that I'm used to from sposure,
Speaker 1: or you'd have been like I feel like you could
Speaker 1: have just let that rolled off and like that could
Speaker 1: be something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe a combination of those rather be like yeah, ah,
Speaker 4: here's the deal, folks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually my favorite thing is like how would
Speaker 6: I have responded in this press conference moment, because like
Speaker 6: we just can't know. It's such a weird thing, like, hey,
Speaker 6: you just did forty eight minutes of insane adrenaline that
Speaker 6: we can't imagine like ghosted on the podium and answer
Speaker 6: questions from reporters. Right, It's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if I thought she was going to ask
Speaker 2: that question and it really was like, my only strategy,
Speaker 2: I would have like shadowed what this press conference is
Speaker 2: over halfway through the question, like before she could get
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like knocked the
Speaker 2: table over.
Speaker 1: But like to your point, like game one, I was like, okay, this,
Speaker 1: this looks like what I thought a Game one would
Speaker 1: look like, uh, Yolk is doing his thing.
Speaker 4: And then Game two was quite different.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Heat had I think their most
Speaker 1: efficient fourth quarter of the season, which makes sense because
Speaker 1: they absolutely just ran away with it then. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, we were looking at things like Kevin
Speaker 1: Love starting and being like, oh okay, we're seeing.
Speaker 2: And then like quarter two and three and even the
Speaker 2: beginning of like the fourth quarter, I feel like Denver
Speaker 2: just looked. It was like, oh, this series is going
Speaker 2: to be this, It's going to be the thing we
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be after Game one. But
Speaker 2: I keep underestimating Miami. I think everybody does. Anyone who's like, nah, dude,
Speaker 2: I had this one at the beginning is probably lying
Speaker 2: or just an insane Miami stan But uh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, interesting you mentioned the efficiency because like
Speaker 6: they yes, but then they the Nuggets closed out the
Speaker 6: fourth quarter on like an insane run. Yeah, and I
Speaker 6: thought what was so underrated and that was Bam making
Speaker 6: those two free throws, because that was impressive, Like as
Speaker 6: a big man in that moment, I don't know that
Speaker 6: was I didn't think he would sing both of those.
Speaker 6: So show up at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's incredible. Just the Miami like having that unshakeable
Speaker 2: confidence like that really does seem to be the thing
Speaker 2: that it's just they game after game when everybody else
Speaker 2: is like they're out of this, Like they are the one.
Speaker 2: They are the only people in the arena who are like,
Speaker 2: now we still have this, We're still like they expect
Speaker 2: to win at every point of every game.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I mean in the context of the game two adjustment,
Speaker 2: like what was the difference between game one and game two?
Speaker 4: We talked about.
Speaker 2: So the the clip we're talking about, Ramona Shellburn like
Speaker 2: basically is says the thing that I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people like, their first impression when you look at
Speaker 2: the box score is that Jokic only had four assists.
Speaker 2: Usually he's like up in the double digits of assist.
Speaker 2: This is like and the the heat like made more
Speaker 2: threes than them, and so they were like oh, they
Speaker 2: let Jokic score in the paint and then you know,
Speaker 2: just out shot them from three, which is like that
Speaker 2: is that a new strategy? Like, do we have any
Speaker 2: confirmation from an NBA coach I feel, or like in
Speaker 2: the offseason, I want some journalists asking NBA coaches this
Speaker 2: because it's really seemed like it was the strategy in
Speaker 2: like Game one of the six Ers, Like I'm a
Speaker 2: Sixers fan, unfortunately, and like Sixers Celtics, Like Game one,
Speaker 2: it looked like I was watching like a different sport
Speaker 2: because they're just like giving them layups. It was like
Speaker 2: I was like, this is the worst defense around the
Speaker 2: back that I've ever seen a team play, and yet
Speaker 2: the Sixers still ended up winning by just like making
Speaker 2: more threes than them. Do we think that like there
Speaker 2: is a strategy where they're just like, yeah, just we'll
Speaker 2: we'll give them two's and outshoot them from threes because
Speaker 2: it's really like our only chance.
Speaker 6: It can't be that easy, you know, it's clearly not
Speaker 6: that easy. They had the best record in the NBA
Speaker 6: and like we're the number one seed for a reason,
Speaker 6: they've not struggled thus far in the playoffs. Really, this
Speaker 6: is like the first time people have actually been like, oh,
Speaker 6: I don't know, den here could they? Like they haven't
Speaker 6: faced much competition really when you think about it, And
Speaker 6: I think, like that is certainly an interesting point and
Speaker 6: an interesting strategy, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: like so many dominoes, also have to like fall correctly
Speaker 6: for that to just like be the strategy that we're
Speaker 6: Also it's kind of underestimating Yokic and like his ability
Speaker 6: to you know, create those things and make those things happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was supposed point too. Yeah, exact,
Speaker 2: he's so good. What are you talking about? You can't
Speaker 2: just be can't just figure something out that quickly, right?
Speaker 1: And I think that's like what kind of Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: was saying that, you know, the big thing was, well,
Speaker 1: just neutralize Jamal Murray then like except that Jokic is
Speaker 1: gonna yo Kicic and then do everything you can to
Speaker 1: try and take his other toys away. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think it also has to then you also need,
Speaker 1: like Michael Porter Junior to not be shooting.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: It takes a like to your point, Molly, it takes
Speaker 1: a couple other things to all come together for that
Speaker 1: to make like seamless sense, because yeah, otherwise I feel
Speaker 1: it might be too tidy of an explanation, although I
Speaker 1: would just be funny if philosophically they're like, no, man,
Speaker 1: he's better than two's.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's right. It's like the numbers do say that,
Speaker 6: so that I do think like to that point, you know,
Speaker 6: we'll analyze the spoke clip or whatever. But I do
Speaker 6: think it's a fair question. But I also understand being
Speaker 6: like that's too you know, that's too simple, Like, no,
Speaker 6: that's not it at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to watch the spokelpy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's sear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're treating this like a lot of build up
Speaker 2: to this. The film of NBA post game in it.
Speaker 1: Even like like Molly was saying, you're coming off of
Speaker 1: an like you're eking out a win in Denver like
Speaker 1: the way they did and then having to face the press,
Speaker 1: he looked like he was like like, yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: I'm in a kind of a high intense and high
Speaker 1: intensity environment.
Speaker 4: But yes, let's sit down at this microphone.
Speaker 3: Probably oversimplifying things, but sometimes when when teams play against you,
Speaker 3: gets you turn them into a score, you turn them
Speaker 3: into a passer.
Speaker 2: And he controls the game. You only have four systems.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's ridiculous. You know, it's just that's the untrained
Speaker 5: eye that that says something like that. This guy is
Speaker 5: an incredible player. You know, twice in two seasons, he's
Speaker 5: been the best player on this planet. You can't just say, oh,
Speaker 5: make him a score. That's not how they play. They
Speaker 5: have so many different actions that just get you compromised.
Speaker 2: Uh, we have.
Speaker 5: To focus on what we do. You know. We try
Speaker 5: to do things the hard way, and he requires you
Speaker 5: to do many things the hard way. Man, he has
Speaker 5: our full respect. Okay, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta go.
Speaker 7: I gotta He's like, guys, guys, he's like making noises
Speaker 7: on the table, like trying to, like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: distract I just realized that I actually wouldn't have answered
Speaker 7: it that way.
Speaker 2: I would have just even if it wasn't my strategy,
Speaker 2: I would have claimed it was and taken full credit
Speaker 2: for the win and just been like, yeah, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of a genius. That was pretty smart of me.
Speaker 6: You know what that looks like to me though, watching that,
Speaker 6: that looks like me when the sixth person today has
Speaker 6: asked my thoughts about the Jamaran situation. So like, I like,
Speaker 6: but this is probably a question that he has been
Speaker 6: hearing and that he is just like sick of or
Speaker 6: she I just I don't no, it's possiating. I mean,
Speaker 6: I feel like we could and have spun the whole
Speaker 6: podcast episode really just diving into the body language, the wording.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're just getting started, Molly. This is we're gonna
Speaker 2: take this. This is frame by frame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a three episode arc with Molly.
Speaker 2: To your point about adrenaline, my dad was an NBA
Speaker 2: coach and one time I had a friend come with
Speaker 2: me to a game and he came back to the
Speaker 2: locker room after it was a win, and Tony Batti
Speaker 2: was on my dad's team and he went by Batman
Speaker 2: and my friend was wearing a Batman shirt and he
Speaker 2: was like, oh, hi, Ryan, to see you my dad.
Speaker 2: And my friend was like, look, I wore the Batman shirt,
Speaker 2: like you know, Tony Batti, Batman. What do you think?
Speaker 2: My dad said, I hate it. I think it stinks.
Speaker 2: And it was like he'd never really like met this
Speaker 2: guy before. It was just and like he I don't
Speaker 2: think he meant it, Like I don't know what he meant,
Speaker 2: I guess it's dismissing that I like still talk about,
Speaker 2: but it's like, I just don't think you are in
Speaker 2: your right mind after a game, Like the fact that
Speaker 2: I think about that'll often like what the fact that
Speaker 2: like players have to go out there like just answer
Speaker 2: questions that are then analyzed like the the Pruder film.
Speaker 6: Exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the last thing I'll say is like
Speaker 1: if the most cynical reading of it is like it
Speaker 1: was spot on, it was that simple, and suppose answer
Speaker 1: is like you got caught serving like a store bock
Speaker 1: cake at a dinner, like as if you baked it.
Speaker 4: Is this a store box? Oh my gosh, you think
Speaker 4: this is a store bock cake.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's something who doesn't know anything about baking would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: because no, this is like.
Speaker 6: That's obviously the funniest possibility there, but sadly the most
Speaker 6: likely it's probably just like he was agitated and he
Speaker 6: went a little I mean he went a little too
Speaker 6: little little. Yeah, you know how things you know, you
Speaker 6: those press conference take clips out like not that like
Speaker 6: in my job, you know, I purposely make sure I'm
Speaker 6: not taking things out of context, but like you can't
Speaker 6: just get embarrassed in press conferences anymore, and like no
Speaker 6: one hears about it, you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I don't know, you know, kind.
Speaker 6: Of embarrassing someone like that and then making those rounds
Speaker 6: online when like you know that it's the best. It's
Speaker 6: not the best. But I mean it's nothing to like,
Speaker 6: it's not a judgment on his character. I mean, like
Speaker 6: we've said, it's a weird, a weird situation.
Speaker 2: Especially as she opened up saying this is probably oversimplifying it.
Speaker 2: Oh oh gosh, maybe maybe that made him feel comfortable
Speaker 2: to just be like, yeah, it is oversimplifying it. And
Speaker 2: we we did talk about a clip earlier in the
Speaker 2: playoffs where somebody asks Spoe, like, so, how do you
Speaker 2: plan on like covering Randall? And he had kind of
Speaker 2: a similar response, but like with you know, probably thirty
Speaker 2: degrees less stress and anxiety and adrenaline, where he was
Speaker 2: just like, first of all, like he is an INCREDIB
Speaker 2: player and like you can't just figure him out. Second
Speaker 2: of all, if I had a solution, I definitely wouldn't
Speaker 2: tell him. I love that answer, so I mean, taken
Speaker 2: in that context, like I don't know, maybe maybe he
Speaker 2: should have said that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know that's why, like your point about
Speaker 6: your dad and the story and everything, like, that's why
Speaker 6: I personally have never been someone who like is mad
Speaker 6: when a player skips press availability. That being said, if
Speaker 6: they're doing it every single game, like at that point,
Speaker 6: it's you know, a problem or even frequently, but like
Speaker 6: after like a high intense to or high stress like situation,
Speaker 6: it is okay in my opinion to be like, I
Speaker 6: I can't do this right now. I don't want to
Speaker 6: do this right now, like take the fine. I mean, who,
Speaker 6: like what does that really affect me? I wouldn't want
Speaker 6: to sit up there and answer questions after being embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when the questions are sometimes so that bad
Speaker 2: thing that happened where you like did your job bad?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, what was going through your mind? And like
Speaker 2: just you know, this is how you feed your family.
Speaker 2: A lot of people saw that. Man, your thoughts? Does
Speaker 2: that make you panic? Does that make you panic?
Speaker 6: Think it?
Speaker 4: Don't be messing it up? No, Okay, all right, let's
Speaker 4: reach if you take a break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a break. We'll come back finish up
Speaker 2: talking about just strategy in this series and then talk
Speaker 2: about WEMA. We're enjoying the French, the French commentators for sure,
Speaker 2: and we're back. So one thing, another take from Game
Speaker 2: two was that it was all about like the Nuggets
Speaker 2: did a bad job defending the three. I saw that
Speaker 2: take because the Heat shot over fifty from three and
Speaker 2: you know a lot of them were open looks. And
Speaker 2: then like it just made me wonder because the Heat
Speaker 2: are either playing great, like defending the three really well
Speaker 2: or you know, getting a good streak of variability or
Speaker 2: luck when it comes to like opponent three point shooting percentage,
Speaker 2: and like that that does seem to like be what
Speaker 2: this series could kind of be decided by. Is like
Speaker 2: is three point shooting defense a thing? Like I think
Speaker 2: it was. Doris Burke was like, well, the reason the
Speaker 2: Denver lost is because their three point shooting defense was atrocious,
Speaker 2: And like I do remember having that thought during the game,
Speaker 2: like they the Heat are getting some really good looks.
Speaker 2: But then you know when you go back and look
Speaker 2: like a lot of thes like Yogic might have had
Speaker 2: ten assists if like some of the you know, shots
Speaker 2: by his teammates were going down like they were missing
Speaker 2: some open looks. I feel like the analytics people generally
Speaker 2: say it's pretty like kind of random the distribution with
Speaker 2: three point shooting, like they don't NBA teams don't actually
Speaker 2: take that many contested threes. And then when you look
Speaker 2: at it across like a big sample size being a
Speaker 2: good three point shooting defense team changes like one to
Speaker 2: two points per game. Yeah, basically, which is a lot
Speaker 2: over the course of a season, but maybe not over
Speaker 2: the course of like a single seven game series, which
Speaker 2: I guess helps with all the variability we're seeing and
Speaker 2: why we might be seeing a team like the Heat
Speaker 2: making this serious of a run this deep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like in game one they were getting
Speaker 6: a lot of good looks as well though, and they
Speaker 6: were getting a lot of those open looks, but they
Speaker 6: were just missing them. So yeah, for me, like when
Speaker 6: you know, Heat fans would be like, oh, like I'm sad,
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, y'all got good looks, you
Speaker 6: just gotta gotta hit them. Yeah. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 6: it's so easy, like in after a game to be like, oh,
Speaker 6: look at that, they got all those looks, but no
Speaker 6: one was really saying that. After the Nuggets one game one.
Speaker 2: So right, Yeah, it's not as interesting if like the
Speaker 2: entire day on ESPN the next day, all anyone's saying
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, I mean, if the heat had made
Speaker 2: their shots, I feel like they would have won.
Speaker 4: What's the secret there? Winning they make those threes? They
Speaker 4: got a chance.
Speaker 6: This Tigers coach Josh Passner Memphis Tigers, used to always
Speaker 6: say after losses, he'd be like, gotta make shots.
Speaker 4: So that's what I think of your category. Should we
Speaker 4: move to France?
Speaker 2: I would love I mean, I do just want to say,
Speaker 2: I know, move. I also just the Jimmy Jimmy Butler
Speaker 2: hasn't had it like going in the way he had
Speaker 2: it going in the first couple series or even the
Speaker 2: like Milwaukee was really the one where it was just
Speaker 2: like he seemed to be willing the ball to the
Speaker 2: basket every time he wanted, and like, but he's still
Speaker 2: like finding ways to like he's suddenly making better use
Speaker 2: of that pass where you like drive it into like
Speaker 2: underneath the basket and then you just have like every
Speaker 2: angle open to you to like pass it out like
Speaker 2: Nash used to do that. And I feel like we
Speaker 2: haven't seen someone do it as well as Jimmy, Butler's
Speaker 2: been doing it since Steve Nash, Like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's he's just finding ways to contribute.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's distant, you know, And it's it's so interesting
Speaker 6: because like it's never been the fact that he's the
Speaker 6: best player on the floor that allows him to win.
Speaker 6: It's the fact that he, you know, is just like
Speaker 6: that locked in and that able to figure it out.
Speaker 6: And I think that like we're seeing that here that
Speaker 6: he's able to still lead without maybe being as able
Speaker 6: offensively as he was before, which is like pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Tyler? What do you think?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: I are you touching that Tyler Hero?
Speaker 6: So I was saying, I would have I think he's ready,
Speaker 6: Like he's ready, He's what's the difference now versus you're
Speaker 6: talking about Tyler Hero? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just Miles.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like he is ready. I would have not played
Speaker 6: him game two, and then if they had lost, which
Speaker 6: I kind of felt like they would lose, then you
Speaker 6: you bring him in for game three, bring one game two.
Speaker 6: Don't don't mess with it. It's it's ringing at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's just it's too risky, especially when it's a player
Speaker 6: who's like not necessarily the know to be the most consistent.
Speaker 1: Right, so and like when they by the just the
Speaker 1: luck of the Heat always is having somebody step up,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I.
Speaker 6: Feel like, yeah, if you lose game three is my
Speaker 6: thoughts honestly, because if you lose, I told I'm telling y'all,
Speaker 6: I think the winner of game three really really has
Speaker 6: a huge advantage. Like just the way I've played at
Speaker 6: the series in both ways head in.
Speaker 4: Your mind, what happens?
Speaker 2: You've run hundreds of simulations.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because think about it. If the Heat win Game three,
Speaker 6: which like not hard to do, they're coming up the
Speaker 6: momentum of a game to win. I don't like that
Speaker 6: it all for Denver. I just think it's too likely
Speaker 6: that they go and get the next one at home.
Speaker 6: So so honestly, I think that for a better series,
Speaker 6: I want Denver to win Game three.
Speaker 2: Weirdly, wow, Yeah, I found myself. I didn't know going
Speaker 2: into this series, like what direction I was gonna be leaning,
Speaker 2: And the second it started and I started watching it,
Speaker 2: I was like, I really want the Heat to win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I felt the same.
Speaker 1: I was like the Nuggets going into them, like they
Speaker 1: look like the better team. But after watch, like for
Speaker 1: me kind of having to put all my sort of
Speaker 1: assumptions aside and be like, oh no, no, we were.
Speaker 1: We've been like talking about how the Heat are able
Speaker 1: to like show up pretty good consistently in this postseason,
Speaker 1: Like it's not no, no, this is this is actually
Speaker 1: this is more fun this way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, totally. I still think my prediction was like Nuggets
Speaker 6: and six or Nuggets and seven, and I still think that.
Speaker 6: But I I don't like the Heat winning get I
Speaker 6: think that's like the scariest game for them to win
Speaker 6: in Miami if I'm like the Nuggets right.
Speaker 2: Also, like, in terms of bringing Hero back, Caleb Martin
Speaker 2: like hasn't really been present for either of the two games,
Speaker 2: so like he had three points game one and two,
Speaker 2: so he's doing for a good one. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: just focus on what has been working to this point
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, because they have been better like as
Speaker 2: a team without him than they have at any point
Speaker 2: with him. So I would make it work. Be like, ah, man,
Speaker 2: he had a he had a dang setback. Unfortunately, there's
Speaker 2: you're pushing him over in the park. They need to
Speaker 2: save him.
Speaker 6: Is like their weapon. If there's an emergence, you know,
Speaker 6: if it's like, okay, we're gonna like it looks bad,
Speaker 6: So let's let's throw this in and see if this
Speaker 6: word so they can't.
Speaker 2: Like then you do the Willis Reid thing. You say
Speaker 2: you had a setback, but then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: who's that coming out of the tunnel. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: he's snarling the whip like that one time. You guys
Speaker 2: have your passports, Yeah, I got mine ready.
Speaker 1: All right, well let nude it gotta hop on our
Speaker 1: flight because they're going to the Charles Dugal.
Speaker 4: Isn't that the main airport anyway, We're going to France.
Speaker 1: It's alright, the Metropolitans, the Mets as we as they
Speaker 1: call them in the.
Speaker 4: L NB officiel.
Speaker 1: These latest little bits of Wemby highlights, including like longer segments.
Speaker 1: Jabbari put us onto some like actual gameplay footage because
Speaker 1: I feel like I've only been watching Wemby in like
Speaker 1: fifteen second burst.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm realizing, like my intake of Wemby has
Speaker 2: been the same as my intake of like any and
Speaker 2: one player, Like I haven't I watched that one game
Speaker 2: in Vegas, but I haven't really watched enough of him,
Speaker 2: like in the flow, and he looks incredible, Like he
Speaker 2: just looks like he's going he's going to be amazing. Truly,
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be good. That's our take.
Speaker 4: That's a hot take. It's a hot take. But we
Speaker 4: also got to give a shout.
Speaker 1: Out to the play calls, these commentators in the French League.
Speaker 1: This is just a fantastic little clip of Wemby will
Speaker 1: turnaround jump shot. But the the energy, the jois de
Speaker 1: vive that exists, and it is it's just something else
Speaker 1: you got any possible.
Speaker 4: Be like he gets you freezy for a boy, but
Speaker 4: he turned around.
Speaker 2: We takes like a fade away, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the stuff I see
Speaker 2: him doing, I'm like, oh that is Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that that's an actual tool that he has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's it's been wild to see
Speaker 1: just how everything goes. I'm like, okay, well let me
Speaker 1: see it over like a stretch of time. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me see how he does against X team. Let me
Speaker 1: see if he's got these parts of his game. Let
Speaker 1: me see enough gameplay footage.
Speaker 4: And it's only been.
Speaker 1: Like yes, yes, yes, yes every time. And I'm a
Speaker 1: little frightened that I've not seen anything. Not frightened, but
Speaker 1: it's just wild to be like, man, every single piece
Speaker 1: of evidence just points to like how next level this
Speaker 1: guy could be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, that video where he's like scooting around on
Speaker 2: his little toesies is impressive.
Speaker 6: The one I've been juggling that Kim that's like making
Speaker 6: the rounds on the internet.
Speaker 1: I mean, like this one where he's like holding the
Speaker 1: one ball up and then like throwing it or I've like,
Speaker 1: do you even call that jug?
Speaker 6: I mean, like, you know, there's been all this weird
Speaker 6: discourse because people love weird, meaningless discourse now like oh
Speaker 6: was he this hyped up? Was Lebron those hyped up?
Speaker 6: I am twenty two years old, so I was not
Speaker 6: around when Lebron James was a you know prospect. I
Speaker 6: can't release speak to that, but I will say that, like,
Speaker 6: I just think that what we're watching with him is
Speaker 6: just so evidently like something that doesn't seem like we
Speaker 6: can make any sense of. I don't know, like when
Speaker 6: you're watching him, yeah, it's just like, oh, that doesn't
Speaker 6: look natural, to the point where like I've never seen
Speaker 6: something like that, Like that doesn't look like a human
Speaker 6: should be able to that. Looks like that should be
Speaker 6: able to move like that and do that right that
Speaker 6: he's doing. I'm not going to be able to like
Speaker 6: comprehend it fully until he's like in the league and
Speaker 6: I'm watching him like play against guys that I am
Speaker 6: familiar with and like that. I but I mean, it's
Speaker 6: really just it's a remarkable and like the cynic in
Speaker 6: me is like, no way, this is gonna just like
Speaker 6: work like but it's like, I mean, here he is,
Speaker 6: he's doing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The wildest thing about the Lebron hype because it I
Speaker 2: think it was close to this level, maybe not at
Speaker 2: this level just because like the media wasn't as saturated
Speaker 2: with social media.
Speaker 6: Yeah, most people say Lebron's was crazier than this.
Speaker 2: It was we were watching his high school game like that.
Speaker 2: That was like full games of high school basketball, which
Speaker 2: is generally unwatchabul when you're used to like watching you know,
Speaker 2: NBA basketball, And the fact that he did follow through
Speaker 2: and like deliver on the promise is unbelievable. And then
Speaker 2: like the other person that they say, like had this
Speaker 2: much hype is Kareem, right, I think I think that's it. Right,
Speaker 2: It's Kareem and Lebron and now when Bingama and like
Speaker 2: all of those were correct, Like there has there been
Speaker 2: somebody who got an incredible amount of hype like this.
Speaker 6: Zion was pretty remarkable and.
Speaker 2: Was pretty big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true because he was another like physical something
Speaker 1: like you know what, like this guy's breaking his shoes.
Speaker 1: It's so big, like it does seem like and it
Speaker 1: gets to this level it's a if you know, you know, situation,
Speaker 1: and like Zion was, Like I think the thing with
Speaker 1: Zion was people were like, if he's able to stay healthy,
Speaker 1: he's going to be incredible. And when he's been able
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, he's been incredible. So you know, like
Speaker 1: people weren't completely off on that one, you know. I
Speaker 1: guess Odin is the closest to like everybody being like,
Speaker 1: oh this is this guy's going to be amazing and
Speaker 1: then it not really panning out. But I think everybody
Speaker 1: also had, you know, understandable concerns about his health and
Speaker 1: those ended up being founded.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've seen like so many interesting, like like in depth
Speaker 1: pieces about him now about like how he's like a
Speaker 1: nerd and he loves like reading Star Wars books, and
Speaker 1: he likes art and all these other things. And I'm curious,
Speaker 1: like if, like, because i think at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, this kind of attention is such a double
Speaker 1: edged sword, Like if your personality can handle it, it
Speaker 1: might motivate you, it might power you up, or it
Speaker 1: could create a lot of expectation that might be very
Speaker 1: difficult to contend with psychologically.
Speaker 4: And I'm wondering if.
Speaker 1: Like that, if that is going to be a factor
Speaker 1: at all, or he's just or what we're seeing just
Speaker 1: in general is like he's already so next level that
Speaker 1: it maybe we don't even have concerns about what the
Speaker 1: expectations are going to do to him.
Speaker 6: I just kind of feel like, when you're that good,
Speaker 6: it's just like, yeah, I mean, why wouldn't they be
Speaker 6: saying this about me? I don't know. It's like whatever,
Speaker 6: I'm doing these things that like no one around me
Speaker 6: is doing, and like, right, yeah, I don't know, though,
Speaker 6: I mean it's definitely right, Like is that going to
Speaker 6: be make him nervous to start his career all these expectations. Maybe,
Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: the dude's different, and that's what people are saying, and
Speaker 6: I'm sure he knows that too.
Speaker 2: The Spurs should start making a bunch of noise about
Speaker 2: how they're not going to take him, just to.
Speaker 6: Like, well, there was that report today that the Hornets
Speaker 6: might take Brandon Miller to which interests me. But anyway,
Speaker 6: sorry not to get away from France for a second.
Speaker 2: To your point that like not reacting like this to
Speaker 2: him would be almost like gaslighting someone. Yeah, like, no,
Speaker 2: you're crazy, You're not the best play Like just his defense,
Speaker 2: like some of the blocks that you see, what like
Speaker 2: in the flow of the game, Like it seems like
Speaker 2: he casually does the thing that Yiannis did in that
Speaker 2: one block in the in the finals against the Suns
Speaker 2: where he was guarding the passer and then like blocked
Speaker 2: the alley oop on agent, right, Like it just feels
Speaker 2: like he does that a couple of times a game. Like,
Speaker 2: just defensively, He's going to be a huge, a huge
Speaker 2: problem right away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just wild that he can get like across
Speaker 1: the paint and like a half of a step basically, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: these blocks.
Speaker 4: Are something else.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I just hope that we don't lose like
Speaker 1: the flare of saying his name, because for how like
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial he seems with his skill, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a shame to be like wehen Beam or Wemby, Like
Speaker 1: I want to hear like that guy who's like.
Speaker 6: That get it, You're gonna get it. I mean, the
Speaker 6: NBA is salivating at the fact that he is entering
Speaker 6: the league, like oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I just feel like if I have the French like
Speaker 1: option for like close captioning or like the you know,
Speaker 1: commentary track, I would opt to maybe hear that in the.
Speaker 6: Beginning us for every single game, they'll they'll deliver that
Speaker 6: for us, right right, all right?
Speaker 2: Should we take one last break and then one last
Speaker 2: come back with the fastest segment in podcasting. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and I think it's time before the storm.
Speaker 1: He has the calm before the storm. Molly Morrison, you
Speaker 1: have just ventured into the fourth quarter rapid fire round
Speaker 1: of questioning. This is the fastest question and answer segment
Speaker 1: in all of sports podcasting.
Speaker 4: Unequivocal. I'm gonna be unequivocal about that. It is.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to ask you a question you just respond,
Speaker 1: just react, give your first thought. Don't give a long
Speaker 1: winded answer, because we like to keep this thing moving.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of this. And Molly, if we.
Speaker 4: Start dragging on and interjecting, that's on you.
Speaker 2: Okay, like our listeners can't see, but you probably want
Speaker 2: to take the fedora off because every time someone does
Speaker 2: the segment while we're low, it just starts spinning around
Speaker 2: on their head because the segment is going so fast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so just you.
Speaker 1: It's one of those little hats that has a little
Speaker 1: propeller thing on the top.
Speaker 4: There you go, well out of.
Speaker 1: Your berets because it's time for the fourth quarter, rapid
Speaker 1: find a fire round of questions. I couldn't even get
Speaker 1: through it properly. The clock actually actually wow, great zoom fills.
Speaker 6: Wow this the other day I want.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I did the one where you can I
Speaker 1: turn your can turn your eyebrows like different colors.
Speaker 4: Wow, you want to go first? Here we go first.
Speaker 2: Sure, I'll go first, Miles. Thank you so much for asking.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're very welcome.
Speaker 2: Uh, Mollie, is there a single NBA player you would
Speaker 2: take right now over the chance of taking Mbiama with
Speaker 2: the first pick this summer. You are the Spurs and
Speaker 2: you've gotten the call from every single NBA team.
Speaker 4: Who do you want you can have?
Speaker 2: Who do you you can have? Anyone?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the right answer.
Speaker 4: Right, No, it's just take it.
Speaker 6: You take it, you don't.
Speaker 2: You take it?
Speaker 6: That's what you think.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think that's the right answer. Okay, moving on,
Speaker 2: man Giannis played his way out of that question by
Speaker 2: the way that we first started asking everyone. Everyone, Everyone
Speaker 2: say Yiannis.
Speaker 1: Now it's like obviously it's so you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about teams that we want to cover in the off season,
Speaker 1: you know, just to kind of give a little preview,
Speaker 1: who's making interesting moves, who has teams that are worth
Speaker 1: looking at? Spurs obviously, Uh, what are the teams that
Speaker 1: you are expecting big things from that Maybe.
Speaker 4: We should keep an eye on Rockets maybe, Okay, anyone
Speaker 4: else or just the Rockets. You don't have to give multiplaners.
Speaker 2: I'm just interesting about the Rockets.
Speaker 6: To you, that's the first chance. Mind. I just think
Speaker 6: they have like a lot of young pieces that are
Speaker 6: always somehow involved in like trade rumors and also the
Speaker 6: weird card and stuff. So it's like, do something create
Speaker 6: some identity? So I mean same with the Blazers. It's like,
Speaker 6: are you going to build all these guys? You're going
Speaker 6: to keep like twiddling them around the trademarket. We just
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all right. Taylor Swift heard rumors you might
Speaker 2: be a fan. Was recently rumored to be noodling with
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves.
Speaker 6: No, that's fake, that's not true.
Speaker 1: I know his brother said, he debaded that. But for
Speaker 1: this sake, this is just the thing that was on
Speaker 1: the intert All right. So which NBA player do you
Speaker 1: think would be the best?
Speaker 6: Oh? That is such a good question, and you have
Speaker 6: to let me think about it for like at.
Speaker 2: Least ten go ahead twenty four hour four.
Speaker 4: He said he's a swifty Yeah, oh is he?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a swifty What.
Speaker 1: Kind of album would Taylor Swift make if she was
Speaker 1: dating Jimmy Butler?
Speaker 4: What do you think? What comes? Like?
Speaker 6: What country?
Speaker 4: What does the work look like? After that? That becomes country?
Speaker 4: Full country?
Speaker 6: She becomes she does like a country like if you
Speaker 6: know the song this is just for swiftyes, like I
Speaker 6: bet you think about me on red like pop with
Speaker 6: like a twine a nice tasteful country twine. I think
Speaker 6: I think she she'd go into that he's a Texas boy.
Speaker 1: We got to ask you again because it's staying on
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift thing. On our other show that we have,
Speaker 1: the Dailies, guys, we talked about this thing where people were,
Speaker 1: you know, going to the Taylor's like the Arros tour
Speaker 1: and experiencing amnesia post concert Amniesia. They said they were
Speaker 1: so hyped up they couldn't even remember what happened.
Speaker 4: First of all, do you remember your experiences?
Speaker 6: Oh? I remember?
Speaker 4: Okay, reference, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: But also people have been wearing diapers because they don't
Speaker 1: want to miss a thing. Is there an NBA game,
Speaker 1: past present, any from history that you would have worn
Speaker 1: the diaper for because you wanted to see every single
Speaker 1: moment uninterrupted.
Speaker 6: Game six of the Grizzlies Clippers series and twenty For
Speaker 6: the reason I say it slowly is because I'm like
Speaker 6: a little bit unsure of the year. But I'm going
Speaker 6: to go twent fourteen if you probably are not able
Speaker 6: to remember what that was, But it was when Zach
Speaker 6: Randolph put his hands on Blake Griffin's neck, and it
Speaker 6: was the greatest live sporting event I've ever been to
Speaker 6: in my life.
Speaker 4: So you're strapping on the diaper for that one one
Speaker 4: more time?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2: Also, Jimmy Butler had the thing where he said his
Speaker 2: teammates don't like when he plays Taylor Swift during warm ups.
Speaker 2: That happened in twenty fifteen. He's like old head, yeah
Speaker 2: Swift fan.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, he's a country he loves country. He loves
Speaker 6: country day right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, Well, speaking of Zach Randolph, if
Speaker 2: you can take any former Memphis great put them in
Speaker 2: their prime with your current Memphis Grizzlies for next season,
Speaker 2: which player are you choosing to make a run in
Speaker 2: today's NBA?
Speaker 6: It depends how long is the suspension. No, I mean
Speaker 6: Zach Randolph because he's my full time favorite. So I'm
Speaker 6: not even going to think about like how that would
Speaker 6: make sense in the roster, like it would just be
Speaker 6: Zach Randolf.
Speaker 4: He's just want to see him out there.
Speaker 6: But I mean, if we're going to be without a
Speaker 6: point guard for a while, obviously give me Mike Conley.
Speaker 6: But Tias if we keep Tias, Tyas has got us.
Speaker 4: So okay, Yeah, last question, Molly Jack or Miles.
Speaker 6: Jack or Miles where are you guys from?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 6: We don't learn a little bit more to make that decision.
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's it's just go with whatever, superficial analysis observations.
Speaker 6: And just giving it honestly, Like you guys have been
Speaker 6: pretty even to me, I'll have to say, so anything
Speaker 6: would be a reach.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Wow, so you're a Sixers fan. What are you? Who
Speaker 6: are you a fan of? That'll help me?
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, that's not true. He has the jersey.
Speaker 2: I will give him that.
Speaker 6: Miles Miles one, Oh wait?
Speaker 3: Was that a like.
Speaker 4: I'm from l A. Well then what can I do?
Speaker 6: Is my favorite because I kind of I just like
Speaker 6: Sixers fans. I think they're really funny because they just
Speaker 6: like are always suffering and and like there's it's just
Speaker 6: there's something hilarious about Sixers fans. I have many Sixers
Speaker 6: fans friends, So I'll pick because of that revelational Pictureack.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's all been worth it.
Speaker 4: Did a forensic analysis of my jerseys.
Speaker 6: Wow, you pulled out a jaw jersey and and I
Speaker 6: was ready to say you instantly, and then it was all.
Speaker 1: Right, I know, look, look I can be a bit
Speaker 1: of a puckster, a puckish one, I guess to evoke
Speaker 1: Shakespeare anyway. Thank you so much, Molly Morrison a Bleacher
Speaker 1: report for joining us uh and choosing correctly in the
Speaker 1: Jacker Miles, I mean, I thank you.
Speaker 4: It was a reach I shouldn't have I shouldn't have been.
Speaker 2: There's the right answer to that, and it is me.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends show, the show obviously, the context base.
Speaker 1: But Molly, where can people check out your work and
Speaker 1: find you and and read your stuff and support you
Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I mean I just graduated following my socials.
Speaker 4: I'm just there you go. Congrats.
Speaker 6: So I'm Molly Hanna on Twitter and TikTok and Molly
Speaker 6: underscore Morrison on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah great, follow one of the best. Yeah NBA meets
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Speaker 1: the Speed Round. Keep up the good work. You guys
Speaker 1: should live stream an episode during the finals.
Speaker 4: Maybe longer. Yeah, maybe we'll just do it. One episode
Speaker 4: will just be.
Speaker 1: Thirty straight minutes of the Speed Round that which could
Speaker 1: be actually a pretty hilarious thing.
Speaker 4: All right, well we did it.
Speaker 2: Another one in the books.
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