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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Rent an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. It's an emergency scrub

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Speaker 1: you what.

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Speaker 2: We were told there was no Thursday episode.

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Speaker 1: Say yes, we were told there was no Thursday episode. Becca.

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Speaker 1: We are songs Becca today because she couldn't make it.

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Speaker 1: But this guest happens to be in Los Angeles for

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. And I've been obsessed with her for

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Speaker 1: a very long time. And she was willing and able

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Speaker 1: and excited to come in, and so I said, sign

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Speaker 1: me up.

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Speaker 2: Why what is it about her that you wanted her

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Speaker 2: so badly?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Her name is Jennifer Fisher. And if you don't know

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Speaker 1: who she is, she started her jewelry line, Jennifer Fisher

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Speaker 1: Jewelry a long time ago and it was a single piece.

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Speaker 1: It was a stamped dog tag with her firstborn's name

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Speaker 1: on it. And I'm going to get the full story.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know the full story. But now her

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Speaker 1: brand is huge, the jewelry line is massive. She has

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Speaker 1: also kind of switched into She has Jennifer Fisher Kitchen

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Speaker 1: where she posts all these recipes. She also had hashimotos

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Speaker 1: and all of her recipes are Hashimoto friendly, So that's

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Speaker 1: really when I started following her and really leaning in.

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Speaker 1: She has a salt brand, Jennifer Fisher Salt that she

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Speaker 1: sells and it's like spicy salt, Universal salt, and curry salt.

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Speaker 2: From jewelry to salt.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's why she's and she has a husband and

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Speaker 1: two kids, and she just does it all. And I'm

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Speaker 1: obsessed with her and so I'm really excited to have

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Speaker 1: her scrub in today.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's bring her in.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring her in here. She is Jennifer Fisher. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm so pumped. First of all, we don't normally we

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Speaker 1: never do a scrub on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Is that what this is called a scrub?

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Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, the podcast is scrubbing in, and so we

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Speaker 1: never do it on a Wednesday. But the name, but

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Speaker 1: you were here for twenty four hours in La and

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Speaker 1: I was like I have to have her.

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Speaker 3: Well I messaged you and I was like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 3: coming to town. We should do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm so honored because you're only here for I

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Speaker 3: leave tomorrow morning at six am.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, okay, I've been obsessed with you. So actually

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Speaker 1: it's a very funny story. One of my girlfriends, one

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Speaker 1: of my best friends, Paulina, has been been telling me

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Speaker 1: about you and your recipes for a while. Jennifer Fisher,

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Speaker 1: you have to check out her recipes. This has been

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Speaker 1: like years, and I'm like, not a big cooker cooker.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, when I got diagnosed with hashimotos

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Speaker 1: I was like, I need to start cooking more and

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Speaker 1: they were like, Jennifer Fisher has it and does all

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Speaker 1: of her recipes hashimotive friendly. So that's when I really

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Speaker 1: leaned in and was like, that's when my journey began

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm obsessed with everything about you, but

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Speaker 1: I really want to unpack and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: like a woman and a powerful woman and how it

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Speaker 1: all started for you, because I just I really I

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Speaker 1: think you got your start in the jewelry industry, right.

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Speaker 2: No. No, I was a stylist for teny.

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Speaker 3: I had a whole career here in Los Angeles before well,

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Speaker 3: first of all, I grew up here, I went to USC.

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Speaker 2: I grew up on Acito in Santa Barbara, and I went.

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Speaker 1: I got first career move was a stylist, yes, and

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Speaker 1: I was just even know Yes, for ten years, I

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Speaker 1: So then how did you get into jewelry?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I was diagnosed with a desmood tumor when

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Speaker 3: back in this. So this was you know, a long

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Speaker 3: You be or I don't know, you can't call them

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Speaker 3: Kevin proposed to me six months into it and yeah, amazing. Uh,

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Speaker 3: also that's hushy girls and issues. Yeah, so I had

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Speaker 3: So we did it. First time she got pregnant. Twelve

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Speaker 2: Anything, but that's crazy. I don't talk to him anymore

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Speaker 1: I was like, if I can't do this in a year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's changed my life. I'm a different person. I lost

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Speaker 3: I was okay, I was eating a ton of gluten

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Speaker 2: And that's that's what people have to really realize. Just

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00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,520
Speaker 2: because it says gluten for you're in organic and dairy

439
00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,280
Speaker 2: free doesn't mean that it's good for you. Yeah.

440
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,840
Speaker 3: The marketing on healthy foods is it's all garbage.

441
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you don't.

442
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,960
Speaker 3: Realize there's really not a lot of products out there

443
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,360
Speaker 3: that are packaged that I consume.

444
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,800
Speaker 1: And did you find when you started like learning and

445
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,399
Speaker 1: getting into all this that what I found to be

446
00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,320
Speaker 1: so interesting is anti flint an anti inflammatory diet is just

447
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 1: so good for every autoimmune disease, like it's and everything.

448
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,159
Speaker 3: It's anti aging too, Yeah, it really is. It's it's incredible.

449
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 3: What the power the power of just ingesting less?

450
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? But how Okay, here's my question, because I got

451
00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,120
Speaker 1: a lot of questions from people. I think that saying

452
00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 1: antime planmmatory diet is very.

453
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960
Speaker 2: Ted I don't say diet, Oh yes, lifestyle.

454
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 1: Antime planmatory lifestyle. Yes, it can be very tedious and

455
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 1: overwhelming for people that don't really know where to start.

456
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 1: If you're wanting to go on this journey and change

457
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 1: your lifestyle, where would you start if you were just starting?

458
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,399
Speaker 1: If somebody is listening, the.

459
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,359
Speaker 3: First thing I tell everybody is to clean up your house,

460
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 3: go through your refrigerator, go through your pantry, and get

461
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,040
Speaker 3: rid of anything that has any seed oil in it.

462
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,840
Speaker 3: Seed oils if you don't what they are, it's canola, corn, stafflower, sunflower, peanut.

463
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,120
Speaker 2: I can give you a list.

464
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,159
Speaker 3: It's all on my Instagram Jennifer Shier Kitchen. But I

465
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,120
Speaker 3: also have a pantry highlight and grocery highlight. But you know,

466
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 3: so anything that has any of the seed oils, and

467
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 3: anything with cane sugar, anything that has gum, so guar, gum, zanthem, gum,

468
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: anything like that. Obviously nothing, no wheat. I don't do

469
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 3: lagoomes either. Do you eat beans and the gooms?

470
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't eat them just because I get gassy.

471
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 3: Oh I just don't eat them anymore. And I feel

472
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 3: so much better. So what I did when I started

473
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 3: doing it, But removing all of that stuff.

474
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 1: It's tricky.

475
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,360
Speaker 2: Like I was natural flavors, that's another thing.

476
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I had like this really great peanut butter

477
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: that I was eating that I thought was so good,

478
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: and then I didn't even think to look at it

479
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 1: because it was literally just like three ingredients. And then

480
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: there was some flower oil in it.

481
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in everything that's It's in chips, it's in

482
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 3: every like nut butter, it's in pretty much everything. Yeah,

483
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 3: so you have to be really really careful.

484
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's really so.

485
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 3: The first thing, read your labels, clean out your pantry,

486
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 3: clean out your frigerator.

487
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,359
Speaker 2: Your favorite hot sauce has gums in it.

488
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 3: Sorry guys, Yeah, it's like then all of my favorite

489
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 3: ones are like the fancy ones, there's gums and them.

490
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 2: It's shelf stabilizers.

491
00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,880
Speaker 3: So gums are things that are basically preservatives that make

492
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 3: foods last longer on the shelf. So you want to

493
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 3: get rid of that. You don't want to be ingesting

494
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 3: any of that stuff. It's scarbage. So do that and

495
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: then go and do a fresh shop. So go to

496
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 3: the grocery store. Take your time, don't go rush. I'm

497
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: like a geek. I like to go on a Friday

498
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 3: night when I have time to like go to the

499
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 3: mustard isle or go over. Like I love condiments, which

500
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 3: is why the salt kind of thing started. But I'm

501
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: a condiment freak, Like I love hot sauces, I love mustards,

502
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 3: all that stuff. So go through and really find your things,

503
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 3: like the things that I love are not gonna be

504
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: the things that you love, right. You know, there's a

505
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: lot of really great brands out there, so just find

506
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 3: the ones. You have to do a lot of research,

507
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: so you're buying a lot of things, You're tasting a

508
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 3: lot of things, and you're going this is not for me,

509
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: my friend will like it, So it I'll throw it out,

510
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 3: give it you one of your friends. Yeah, you know,

511
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: because it's still clean and that'll help them out. And

512
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 3: then just try to I try to eat as much

513
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: color as possible every day. I try to stay away

514
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 3: from brown foods. What's brown, like, just anything brown.

515
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 2: I just try to like stay away.

516
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: From brown food, brown, potato, brown.

517
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh.

518
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: And then another thing, no night shades, So no, I

519
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 3: try to limit nightshains. I love tomatoes and I love

520
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: potatoes and peppers, but I try to limit them. So

521
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 3: I don't eat eggplant either, because egg plants a night

522
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: shade as well. Also inflammatory. Sparkling water also inflammatory. I

523
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: used to drink drink all of those waters all day long,

524
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: not realizing that I'm just ingesting air gas and natural flavors,

525
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: which is also not good for you. Yeah, so that

526
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 3: peach flavored water that you love.

527
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 2: Stop. Yeah.

528
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: Also and also your creamers and your almond milks and

529
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: things like that. Make sure that it's all, you know,

530
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 3: one ingredient, two ingredients. I try to stay away from

531
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 3: the ones with salt in it. I do you watch

532
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: my sodium, even though I do make salt.

533
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: But I but if you're.

534
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: Making but if you're making clean foods and you're you know,

535
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: if it's like a piece of salmon or shrimp or

536
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're making and it's it's a

537
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 3: it's there's nothing on.

538
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: It, you can you can have the salt. Yeah, you're not.

539
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: It's like you're eating a and you know, I'm.

540
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: Not opening a package of sodium filled frozen vegetables and

541
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: eating that and eating fresh vegetables.

542
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: So I think it's it's.

543
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: Finding those things, like you know, wherever you're going to shop,

544
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, whatever it is,

545
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: read your labels because the things that you think are

546
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 3: healthy and that are marketed to you is being healthy

547
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: nine times out of ten or not, and they're going to.

548
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Make you bloated.

549
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 1: I know. That's the thing that I, like, I didn't

550
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: even realize is I wasn't. I felt like I always

551
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: lived a very healthy lifestyle. And then when I had

552
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: to start doing this big shift for my for like

553
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: my actual health, I started reading all the labels and

554
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: I realized that I was eating drinking like an oat

555
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: milk latte every day from oatly, which is filled with

556
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: like all these crazy inflammatory things, and I just didn't

557
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: even realize it, you know, it's just like part of

558
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: my routine. And so I really started taking like a

559
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: fine tooth home and like looking through everything that I

560
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: was doing on the daily, and like I but I

561
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: also went to an extreme, like I stopped using like

562
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: ziploc bags and yeah, because I just didn't want any

563
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: plastic or anything touching anything that I'm consuming. Okay, but

564
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's it's very daunting because I

565
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: do remember in the beginning, I felt very overwhelmed, like

566
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't know where to start. And I feel

567
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: like starting in your home is a good.

568
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: Well then, and then also learning how to eat out

569
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: is really really important to go to a restaurant. So you know,

570
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: first of all, you should start at home, and everything

571
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: should start in your house, and you should just have

572
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 3: a completely clean kitchen and pantry because then you get home, like,

573
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: but I also drink alcohol.

574
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 1: Do you drink I started limiting it. I drink, but

575
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: I do it not as often as I was before.

576
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: So you know, you get home after you know, having

577
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: a few drinks and you want something to eat. You

578
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you have everything in your

579
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: kitchen to help you be successful. So I just keep

580
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like I'm drinking every night and

581
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: going coming like eating you know, drunk food, but like

582
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: it's for those kind of things where I think people

583
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: slip too, when they're just not really paying attention and

584
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: I'll just go get piece of my friends or I'll

585
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, you just have to really avoid that. But

586
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: like when you're out at dinner, I always be really

587
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: kind whoever is serving you and working, and I try

588
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: to stick to like Mediterranean restaurants in places that it's

589
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 3: easy just to say, can you only cook that in

590
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: an olive oil place? But you also have to make

591
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: sure because most restaurants it's an olive oil blend. So

592
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: when you ask for olive oil, nine times out of ten,

593
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: unless you say I have a seed oil allergy, they're

594
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: going to cook it in that blend, and that's a

595
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: blend of canola, sapfloire, some flower and olive because it's

596
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: more cost effective.

597
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: Exactly.

598
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: I learned that too, exactly, So that's so great. I'm

599
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: having this salad and then I realize that they make

600
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: their salad dressing with olive oil and canol oil completely.

601
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: Bload it after Yeah, exactly, So the salad dressing is

602
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: really important. So if you you know, when you're eating out,

603
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: if you want, you know, I make my own dressing

604
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: the table a lot. I'll just say, can you bring

605
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: me some pure olive oil, lemon, and I'll just make

606
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 3: my own with some salt at the table and.

607
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: Do it all the time. I all the time.

608
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: I want to go to sushi too, because I don't

609
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: eat the rice, but I get sashimi. I make my

610
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: own because I don't do soy. That's another thing, guys, No, soy,

611
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: why not even tomorrow? No, no, sway, not even tomorrow.

612
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Why I just feel better not eating it. So, like

613
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: I said, what works for me is not going to

614
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: be else. It's not like it's not a strict diet.

615
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 3: So you have to do all these you have to

616
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: do the trial and error and see what works like

617
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: try for a week. So I eat dairy free cheese,

618
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: even those potato starch in them. But I don't get

619
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: affected by potato starch. That doesn't mess with me, right right.

620
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: I eat dairy free cheese, and I'm like a mess.

621
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: Oh really, See we're all We're all so different. Yeah,

622
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: and you can eat and lagoms too. I'm not so

623
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: good for me. You love garbonza beans.

624
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: And I know cauliflower for me is not good. And

625
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you use a lot of cauliflower in

626
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: your recipes.

627
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: Because you get really I get yeah, yeah, a lot

628
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: of people have that problem, Brussels sprouts problem.

629
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, I know. I just

630
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: look at people that have no issues with that type

631
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: of stuff, and I'm like, what I what I would

632
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: give to have a day in your life?

633
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: Cabbage if it's cooked, cooked cabbage, so you can eat

634
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: cabbage as a sub for things like that.

635
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: So that's another.

636
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: So I was saying, how did this so okay? You

637
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: this happened eight years ago? You started kind of living

638
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: this anti plammatory life style. When did you start making

639
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: all these recipes?

640
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh god, I would say they're very.

641
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: Easy to do. Like I'm not a cooker, but I

642
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: cooker saying that this chef, but I can do your

643
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: stuff like ie stuff.

644
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: Is like it's like food for dummies. I feel like

645
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: food for dummies.

646
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: Are you making a Jennifer Fisher food for dummies?

647
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: I am. We are doing it right now.

648
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: Have you said that it's not now? But it's not

649
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: being it's not being called food for dummies. It's Jennifer Fisher, whatever,

650
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: it's whatever. We're trying to work on the name right now.

651
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: But I just signed it with a literary agent.

652
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: We're doing a cookbook.

653
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: It's about time.

654
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, finally, right.

655
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: Yes, finally, But and it's going to have in my

656
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: book is going to have the lists, the grocery list,

657
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 3: everything that you need to be successful on this like

658
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: lifestyle journey to change your life.

659
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I do remember that was something when I

660
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: was starting out. I would be like, I don't know,

661
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: like what brand whatever, So I'd go into your highlights

662
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: and I'd like click through all them to see like

663
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: what you're But it's it's really helpful, it really is.

664
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: There's so many of them, but it's you just have

665
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: to take the time to go through it. Yeah, but

666
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: that will all be in the book with my favorite brands,

667
00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 3: with everything.

668
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: So just to make it easy for everybody.

669
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: When is that coming out?

670
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, we have to sell it. We're doing

671
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: the proposal right now. Oh wants to do my book?

672
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's still like early, early day early.

673
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just started doing it.

674
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: We just kind of like Jennifer Fisher Kitchen for Dummies.

675
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't like the for dummies.

676
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a negative connotation.

677
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: Here a little bit. It's you know, it's just gonna

678
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: be super simple.

679
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: It's all the same thing, super simple, which is about

680
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: your stuff.

681
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: Right, So I did it on intentionally so people a

682
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: can just learn how to cook health.

683
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people that started calling.

684
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: Me, you don't even how to cook eggs, So trying

685
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: to sort of teach everybody, like the basics.

686
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 1: I use your hard boiled egg recipe. I've never been

687
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: able to cook a good hard boiled egg, and now

688
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: I have a jammy egg, jammy egg.

689
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: The six minute boiled egg and the inch of water.

690
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's full proof.

691
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: It's great. Yeah, that's a really good one. It is

692
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: a really spat tuna.

693
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I don't I try not to eat a lot of

694
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: tuna because I have like high metals, so I eat

695
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: a lot of mercury.

696
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: But that is is better Skipjack Tuna's skipp lower mercury than.

697
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Alba core skip Jack get the Wild Planet of Foods one.

698
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: I think I've heard of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're great.

699
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: It's my favorite. But that has much as lower levels.

700
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: So if you're c're worried about that, you can.

701
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Speaker 1: Still But do you also have like a really like

702
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: your website? I feel like, is very are you good

703
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: at all that stuff? Or do you have somebody managing

704
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: you to like managing all your website stuff because I

705
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: feel like you have a team. Okay, yeah, I'm like

706
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: the way you have it set up is like it's

707
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: very there's a nice picture's very easy, like it's very

708
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: easy to navigate, which I also enjoy.

709
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: Well, we're building a new website right now, so wait

710
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: to see the new one.

711
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: So and then how did the salts come out?

712
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: From?

713
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: All the salts literally started?

714
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: So everything that I do, like it's sort of come

715
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: from like me not being able to find what I want.

716
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 3: I just wanted, so I literally because of my hashy matters,

717
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: I used to eat eggs every morning before I intermitten

718
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: fast a little bit now, But when I was making

719
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: eggs every morning, I couldn't find anything to put on

720
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: my eggs to season it that wasn't like a barbecue

721
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: rub or like pot pourri like in especially Mark. It

722
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: was anything like the meat sex. There was no cool

723
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: salts out there. Everything was either just like plain salt

724
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: of some you know pin kamalama or whatever. But there

725
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: was you know, Himalayan, but there was nothing that really

726
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: like that I wanted. So I was like, Okay, I'm

727
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: just going to do a blend of my own. My

728
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: father would ship me via FedEx lemons from his trees

729
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: and Santa Barbara and avocados, so I would always grate

730
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: this zest the rinds of the lemon to save it,

731
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: and I'd use it for recipes. So I literally just

732
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: made a bowl on the side of my stove with

733
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: all of those simple ingredients that didn't have garlic or

734
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: onion in it, because I wanted something in the morning

735
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: that didn't have garlic or onions. So I don't have

736
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: dragon breath all day long in the morning.

737
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: So I just started putting.

738
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: It on everything. And Kevin kept saying, John, this is

739
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: really good. I was like, Oh, it's that seal plend

740
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: that I made. He's like, it's really good. I'd use

741
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: it on salads, I use it to season meat. I

742
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: would use it for everything. And then one day, as

743
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: one does on Instagram, when everyone was putting their avocado

744
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: toast up and being really annoying, I was like, I

745
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: got to do that. So I put my avocado toast

746
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: up on my jewelry account and it had the salt

747
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 3: on top of it, and I literally got more messages

748
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: saying what are the people commenting? Because you couldn't message

749
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: then what is that salt?

750
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: What is that? Where can I buy that? And I said, well,

751
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: I make it?

752
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: And it was crazy, like more comments than like like

753
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: the Rihanna hoops and like the photo. Like it was

754
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: crazy how people just gravitated towards the food instantly. Yeah,

755
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: And so given the successive sort of that, we just

756
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: started asking around and you know, it was close to

757
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Christmas and we had to do you know, we do

758
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: giftings to editors, so we did instead of sending like

759
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: a chocolate bar with my logo or my face on it, like,

760
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: let's send them something healthy that the editors can eat

761
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: at their desk and it's something kind of cool and

762
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: it's different. So we packaged the salt and we sent

763
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: it with you know, some clean tortilla chips and avocado,

764
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: a lemon and the salt in a little chili oil

765
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: that was clean, and I literally people were just were

766
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: like blown away by it, and everyone, can we write

767
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: about it?

768
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: More?

769
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: Thank you notes from like editor in chiefs of magazine,

770
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: which you don't really ever get, like, they don't write

771
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: notes like that, like handwritten notes like thank you so much.

772
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: That was a great thoughtful gift.

773
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: So people just started talking about it, and then people

774
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: started asking, you know, can we write about it?

775
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: Where can they buy it? And so that was the problem.

776
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: So we're like, okay, let's figure out how to produce this.

777
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: So we figured it out and we put it in

778
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: the you know, the heavy jars, which is actually beauty packaging.

779
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: I wanted to feel lux and something that feels you know,

780
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: very special, you know, because you know, we don't.

781
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: Feel like salt.

782
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: It's like doesn't it's like beautiful designer salt. Yeah, exactly.

783
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: So that's what we wanted it to feel like.

784
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: And the packaging has sort of gone through some iterations

785
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: and it's going to probably change again because now we

786
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: have to do because you know, we do the refaill bags,

787
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: so we need to refail shakers and things like that.

788
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: Now that it's evolving, we've got another flavor coming out soon.

789
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: How do you.

790
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Do all of this and have two kids? I have

791
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: two kids, and like I like, honestly, like I'm like,

792
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: how do you do it all?

793
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Well?

794
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: You know, I love it first of all, Like I

795
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, do something you love and you'll never have

796
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: a job again. You know, you don't have to work

797
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 3: a day again in your life, is what they say, right,

798
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: which is true. Like I love what I do. I'm

799
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: so lucky to be able to do this, and it's

800
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: just it's fun to be able to have different Like

801
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: don't put me in a box and say that I

802
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: can't make salt or that I.

803
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: Can't make a perfume.

804
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: So that's so I think is so funny because I

805
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: like when I tell people about you, I'm like, yeah, yeah,

806
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: it's same Jennifer Fisher that has the jewelry line. And

807
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: that's weird because again we'll see the salt in my

808
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: kitchen and they're like yeah, and I'm like, yeah, that's

809
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: so cool, because I just feel like we are at

810
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: a time where you don't have you're not just one thing.

811
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: We're all multifaceted, and I feel like sometimes it's hard

812
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: for people to step out of that box, you know,

813
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: like they feel like, oh, I'm an accountant, so I

814
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: just I'm going to be an accountant for the rest

815
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: of my life, and that's just like not the case.

816
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Don't let people define you define yourself. Yeah, you know,

817
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: it's really important, and I've always enjoyed doing things just

818
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: I think it's once the jewelry sort of took off

819
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: and became what it is and it started to grow

820
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: and I had more time to do some other things

821
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: and to kind of be like, you know, this is

822
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: why I'm not going to be the joy designer that

823
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: just goes and makes handbags. Like just because it's accessories

824
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I have to go and do accessories.

825
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: I got really lucky. CB two came to me a

826
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: few years ago, so that was an interesting story too.

827
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: So I designed I have three hundreds something pieces, but

828
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: we ended up producing like one hundred and ten pieces

829
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: or something.

830
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: For CB two, I.

831
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: Did a whole Home Lifestyle collab with them, and it

832
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: launched literally the day of the World shut Down before COVID,

833
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: Like we were here in LA and in Dallas promoting

834
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: it and people were like not shaking hands. This was

835
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: like this was was it no, February twenty eighth, Yeah,

836
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: right right before and it launched and we're.

837
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: Like, oh god, this is not going to be good.

838
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: And then suddenly everyone was locked in their homes and

839
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: wanted to like furbish their house and not have to

840
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: leave their hunt. So I think to this day we

841
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: still are the best club that they've ever done. The

842
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: best selling club. Our swirl Dish. They said outsold the white.

843
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Dish, I guess on this website. So they still sell.

844
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: They still sell a lot of the pieces from it,

845
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: which is great, and it was so fun to do.

846
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: So that was helpful, you know, just all of these

847
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: things that are just it's just like a whole lifestyle,

848
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: Like why can't it just be like a whole there's

849
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: a scent to I worked on the cent during COVID.

850
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: That was my COVID project. I learned how to my

851
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: COVID project. I learned how to put on individual eyelashes

852
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: myself and I made a pertume. That's so random, that's.

853
00:32:44,040 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: True, though, do you feel and I think this is

854
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like men never get asked

855
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: this question. It's always like women get asked the question

856
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: of like, when you had your kids and they were little,

857
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: did you feel was it hard to kind of because like,

858
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: no matter what, you either are with them or you're not,

859
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: even if you have help. You know, like you make

860
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: that choice. Was it hard to do that when they

861
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: were little? Or was it as they got older, was

862
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: it easier for you to step away? Or like how

863
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: was that when you were working so much and you

864
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: had younger kids.

865
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: So part of the reason I feel like I am

866
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: an entrepreneur and I do what I do is that

867
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 3: I had the ability to come and go as I

868
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: as I pleased.

869
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: So I was there, so I would pick my kids

870
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: up at school.

871
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: Not all the time, but I was you know, I

872
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: had help, but I was home cooking dinner like I

873
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: to this day, I always say, you know, I wanted

874
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: to raise my children, yeah, and to be around and

875
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: to not miss things at school. And so I you know,

876
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: I was around kind of and we kept the business

877
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: smaller intentionally, and so now my kids are older, Shane's

878
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: going to college, Drew's going into eleventh grade. It's time

879
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: to like blow up this brand because a lot of

880
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: people still like.

881
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: Who are you?

882
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: You're really well, we've been around for a long time

883
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: and some people, you know, some people do, some people don't.

884
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: So now it's time to start really growing the brand

885
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: because I'm done. Like I did my job. My kids

886
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: are raised. They don't need me anymore, right, And it's exciting.

887
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really exciting. Do you feel like your life

888
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: has had different like eras, Yes, for sure, Barry Taylor

889
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: swift of me, But like, which of the eras was

890
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: the most difficult for you?

891
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: I would say it was probably the hardest when they

892
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: were you know, I would say, well, for my daughter,

893
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: you know, like ninth grade was hard, excuse me, eighth

894
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: grade was hard. Something in eighth grade that those are

895
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: the harder years because when your kids are growing up

896
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: New York City, they're dealing you know, you're dealing with uh,

897
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: not only just the moms, but the kids and how

898
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: these kids were raised. And so it's not I'm not

899
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: saying that kids in New York are not good kids,

900
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: but I think that we had to deal with some

901
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 3: things living in the city of just not nice things

902
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: that go on, And as a parent, you have to

903
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: teach your child to self advocate for themselves and to

904
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: stick up for themselves and to have their own voice.

905
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: And that's tough as a parent.

906
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, especially for a girl.

907
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

908
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: I always say to people that have younger kids, it's

909
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: what as they get older, it's not really your kids.

910
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: It's other kids sometimes.

911
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that you're dealing with because it's drama

912
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's.

913
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: That kind of behavior.

914
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: It's that would be so really interesting.

915
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

916
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when they grow out of that and they

917
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 3: have their own voice and their their own people, that's

918
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: really nice.

919
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: I was lucky that they did at an earlier age.

920
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: You know, maybe it's because they're city kids and they're

921
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: more independent and they're taking a subway around.

922
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's different. But that was a tough era

923
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 2: for me also.

924
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: You know, it was also really tough when they were

925
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: really little and I just started my company and I

926
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: really needed to be at work, and there was a

927
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: lot of moms that were a white You at the playground,

928
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: we're going for coffee, We're going for lunch and I

929
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: was like, I'm working.

930
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: I can't.

931
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the guilt of that is tough because you

932
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: feel like you have to have this group of friends

933
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: just because your kids are friends with It's that's a

934
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: tough thing to struggle with too.

935
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that because so my boyfriend has two kids. Okay,

936
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't have kids at my own yet, but I

937
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: think about that all the time because I do work

938
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot, and I see a lot of like there's

939
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: like moms that they all do like all the things

940
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: during the day when I'm like working and I can't

941
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: do it, and I'm like thinking forward in my future,

942
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: like is that going to be hard for me?

943
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Right?

944
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: It's you know, I think you just have to make

945
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: the choice of you know, see the people that you

946
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 3: want to see, bond with, the people that you want

947
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: to bond with. Don't feel that group pressure, that peer pressure.

948
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: I have to like be with everybody all the time.

949
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: That was that was hard to but you get used

950
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: to it and then they're like, oh, she works, and

951
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: then they stop inviting you, and then it gets easier.

952
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: When the invite stop is when it starts getting easier.

953
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: So what so, well, what are you in La for

954
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: right now.

955
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: Specifically, I actually have a really well this is actually

956
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: kind of an interesting story. I have a big meeting

957
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: later today that I flew from Chicago for, which is.

958
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: Why I'm here for twenty four hours.

959
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: I can't talk about it, no, no, but what this

960
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 3: was like one of these like trust the universe things. Yesterday,

961
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: right before I took off from Chicago, I got a

962
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: text saying the meeting's off and I was like, oh

963
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: my god. I was like, okay, well i'll go I'll

964
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: go see Tanya into the podcast, and I'll go to

965
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: the store, and i'll see my friends, and i'll go

966
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: see doctor Diamond and deal the things that I want

967
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: to do, and Okay, it's fine. And I was just

968
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: sort of like, you know what, if it's meant to be,

969
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: it will be. And I let it go and I

970
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: put it kind of back out there, which I've learned

971
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: to do recently, like just to kind of manifest it,

972
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: like I really want this to happen. I don't know

973
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: if it's going to happen again, but I'm just gonna

974
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let it be and if it comes back

975
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: to me, how great is that? And I went to

976
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: dinner last night, and I got a call the meetings

977
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: back on. So it's one of those things that you

978
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, when things like that happen that are so disappointing,

979
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: I try to just let it go and just trust

980
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: that if it's meant to be it we'll come back.

981
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

982
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: I feel like you. You seem to me like one

983
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: of those people. You know, we all say it's like,

984
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, what's meant to be. If the door is

985
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: meant to open, it will open for you eventually. A

986
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: closed door just means it wasn't your door, and like

987
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But I feel like when it's actually

988
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: in the moment happening, like it sucks.

989
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: It sucks. And I've had it happen a lot.

990
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: I've ever so many things happen that are negative and

991
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: so many doors slammed in my face.

992
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Really, Oh yeah, have you ever felt like you were

993
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: stuck in a rut?

994
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: Not really stuck in a rut. But I think, you know,

995
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: working in fashion in New York City, it's very competitive,

996
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: and you know, the joey business in general is very competitive.

997
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: I think that you you know you, I think the

998
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: key is to stop comparing yourself to other people. And

999
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: just realize that, Okay, my business is my business, this

1000
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: is my journey, this is where I'm going.

1001
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: I can't, you know.

1002
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: I when I finally put my blinders on, like as

1003
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: a horse, is what I say, is when things really

1004
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: changed for me. I just I stopped looking around and

1005
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what this is that whatever

1006
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: they're doing is what they're doing.

1007
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: They're not me. It's sort of like the food thing,

1008
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: like I would say, what's going to work for me

1009
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: is going to work for you, you know what I mean.

1010
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: It's you have to trust that what you're doing is

1011
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: just your own journey and your own you know, your

1012
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: own path and the things.

1013
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: That I really that I really believe the.

1014
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: Things that have not worked out for me that I

1015
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: thought at the time were like, oh my god, this

1016
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: has to happen. When they don't, and you sit with it,

1017
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: and then you see what comes from the other another

1018
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: opportunity that comes from another opportunity going away, Like today

1019
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: nothing might come from I might have this meeting and

1020
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: nothing might come from it, but I've met this new person,

1021
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: and this new person, you know. I always find that

1022
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: and I always tell people to and single girls too,

1023
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: like always go out. Yeah. I always take the meeting

1024
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: and always go out because I whatever, I don't want

1025
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: to go to a party in New York or I

1026
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: don't want to do something, and I go, I meet

1027
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: someone new. It happens every single time. Trust me, you're

1028
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 3: going to go and you're gonna talk to somebody and

1029
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: say hello to somebody, and that's going to take you

1030
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: in a different path, and that's going to grow your network,

1031
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: and that's going to really connect you and help grow

1032
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: whatever you're trying to do. Yeah, I'm a big, big

1033
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: believer in that.

1034
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: It's so true.

1035
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: It's so true.

1036
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: I was a big believer in that too when I

1037
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: was single, Like I was like, I just have to

1038
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: go to everything because it's a desire of my heart

1039
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: to meet somebody. And am I going to do that

1040
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: sitting on my couch? Nope? No, No, watching a movie

1041
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: no no.

1042
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes the night suck and you're like, Okay,

1043
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: that wasn't exactly what I wanted it to be. But

1044
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: I went and all right, great, I went. I wasn't

1045
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: sitting on my couch, right.

1046
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: You know.

1047
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right, though, I feel like, do you

1048
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: ever feel like, how do you prioritize because do you

1049
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: ever have time for yourself?

1050
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: I do. I do.

1051
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those like self care girls, like

1052
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: I don't want to go and get a massage, like

1053
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: I never want to get a pedicure, like it's not

1054
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't crave those like me time things.

1055
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: For me, meantime is like growing my business, Like I

1056
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: see what's happening here, and I see the momentum behind

1057
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: of what's what's going on on the work that I've

1058
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 3: put into it. So that to me is my me time.

1059
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about what this can be and where

1060
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: we're going. That for me, that's, you know, okay, my

1061
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: me time. And everyone I got this question aswer on Instagram.

1062
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: You know, how do you decompress at the end of

1063
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: the day or turn turn off? Like what do you

1064
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: do at night? What's your what's your routine? I'm like,

1065
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: are you kidding me up? I'm an entrepreneur. Like, my

1066
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: my routine is lying down with my phone in bed

1067
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: because my phone is my computer, so I can, you know,

1068
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: catch up on messaging or talking to whoever I didn't

1069
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: get to during the day.

1070
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: That's my wine down time.

1071
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: If I'm lying down with my phone in my hand

1072
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: and sorry, I'm I'm completely I'm I'm.

1073
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Talk about it of wine.

1074
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: Yes, no, but it is it's my wine down. Yeah,

1075
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: my wine down isn't your wine down.

1076
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: That's what I say so to me.

1077
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: You know, as you can tell, I'm going, you know,

1078
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: a million miles a minute. But that's just who I am.

1079
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: So when I'm sitting down, my kids are like, oh

1080
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: my god, Mom sat on the couch, like, take a picture.

1081
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: So you don't like watch TV?

1082
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: No, No, not really? I mean, I know, I love,

1083
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: I love.

1084
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I do think that TV is ruining my

1085
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: life because I spend a lot of time.

1086
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: Watching girl Like I only download Netflix for air flights and.

1087
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: Things like that, but I and I really pretty much

1088
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 2: only watch food TV or like the Housewives or things

1089
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: like that.

1090
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Would you ever do Housewives?

1091
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: They've asked me.

1092
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: They asked me last year too, because they're doing that

1093
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: whole New York reboot, and I just decided it. You know,

1094
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: I did the first call with the producer or the

1095
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: casting agent, and I just was like, you know, this

1096
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: is not for me.

1097
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 2: I've got some friends that are doing it though.

1098
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, no judgment I like. I have some

1099
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: friends that are on the Housewives too. I like those

1100
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: specific ones, but as a whole, I feel like the

1101
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: brand it's just like women fighting with each other.

1102
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: So it's like why, Yeah, I think I don't know.

1103
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: I think it's just a pa And I think that

1104
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: if if you're not drama enough, they kick you off,

1105
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: and it's like it's or if you're not like an

1106
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: if you're not you know, the villain or stirring the pot.

1107
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's just not my thing. I don't like

1108
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: what you ever about people, so that's not really my thing.

1109
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: Would you ever do a reality show for just you?

1110
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I think it depends

1111
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: on what it is.

1112
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: I would love to see a day in your life,

1113
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: because I do feel like none of your days are

1114
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: the same.

1115
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: I do think that there's there's there's something we could

1116
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: do with content content wise of like showing all of

1117
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: that and having some sort of a platform or media

1118
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: or something that we can do. I think that there's

1119
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: that is something that I would find really really interesting

1120
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: because it's yeah, I mean, no, people don't really get

1121
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: to see what I do all day long, every day.

1122
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like running around.

1123
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: But no day, I feel like no day for you

1124
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: is the same.

1125
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: No day is ever the same. No, because some days

1126
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: I have to be you know, some days I do

1127
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: anythings like this. Some days I'm in my store. Some

1128
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: days I'm I'm working, like we're working on the cookbook.

1129
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: Some days I'm doing it. I have a shoe clab.

1130
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: Oh my shoe clab launches tomorrow the world Larude Larude. Yeah, Larude,

1131
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, embarrassing Marina Larude.

1132
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: She's great.

1133
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: Ye, it's her second one, the first one. We're excited

1134
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: because the Firs from like crash their website and almost

1135
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: that you do.

1136
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, those were cute.

1137
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1138
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: So these are like a really cute wedge that we're

1139
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: doing for the summer, and then we're doing we're doing

1140
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: more colored boots for the fall too, because they were

1141
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: so popular.

1142
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: We're doing three more colors.

1143
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: So it's like everything you touched just sells.

1144
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: Not always.

1145
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: No, I always joke with my team when we're designing

1146
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: jewelry and I'm like, this is so hideous, everyone's gonna

1147
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: love it. I'm like, if I say I love this,

1148
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: no one's gonna buy it. So it's like it's one

1149
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: of those funny It's like like it's like just this

1150
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: hideous joke that I try to guess if people are

1151
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: gonna like something or not. Like the puffy hearts, I'm like,

1152
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: they're only going to be for editorial and May we

1153
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: made these puffy heart earrings and people went crazy for them.

1154
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: How funny.

1155
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: I like, it's so interesting. Yeah, you just can't guess

1156
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: what consumers are gonna consume. So it's but it's really

1157
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: fun to have to be, you know, to have the

1158
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: opportunity to do it.

1159
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so much fun. It's so much fussy.

1160
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: I would love for you to hire just like a

1161
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: personal videographer to just like take me around for like

1162
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: a week in your life.

1163
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: That would be fun. I do some crazy.

1164
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun, though, it's it's you sleep. I'm not

1165
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: you know what's so funny. I don't sleep well.

1166
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't sep as long as you sleep at night.

1167
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: So last night I went to bed purposely we went

1168
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: to dinner early, but actually no, I got went to

1169
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: bed like midnight, and I set my alarm this morning

1170
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: for seven But of course I don't get seven hours

1171
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: of sleep.

1172
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: I got like four.

1173
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: But then I'll wake up and so then I'll be

1174
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: on New York time. And because whenever I come to LA,

1175
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: I always stay on New York time. And so you know,

1176
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: I was up really early checking you know, checking emails

1177
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: and slacks and things like that, and replying to people

1178
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: because I also run the social media, so I reply

1179
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: to all the dms.

1180
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I know.

1181
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: I noticed that.

1182
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do all that too. I don't think.

1183
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer I can do that.

1184
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 2: But it's fun.

1185
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: But no, but it's helped build a community of people

1186
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: because I'm actually they know they're talking to me, so

1187
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: I no, no, it's not some assistant answering some question and

1188
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: feeding them something that you know, I wouldn't say.

1189
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: So, but I'm sure that's very time consuming. I'm sure

1190
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: your dms are.

1191
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Just so fast.

1192
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: I do it really, I like, I try to not

1193
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: do it all day long. I try to like, okay,

1194
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take like ten minute.

1195
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Energy comes from well, I have.

1196
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: More energy now and less brain fog because of the

1197
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: anti inflammatory the way that I eat, Like, my energy

1198
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: is higher now. Yes, my energy is higher now than

1199
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 3: it was. I mean then it's ever been. Where the

1200
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: energy comes from. I think me being really excited that

1201
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: all of this is happening. Then I'm really lucky to

1202
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: be here, Like every day's a gift. My dad died

1203
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: last summer, and he was amazing. He was such a

1204
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: big part of my life, like he was this force

1205
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: and I, you know, I was definitely my father's daughter.

1206
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: And losing him also was a really big wake up

1207
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: for me because he went pretty quickly. It's okay, he

1208
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: got sick in February and who was dead by July,

1209
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: and so it was one of those things that it

1210
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: was a little crazy.

1211
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was wild to watch.

1212
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: So that also gave me this new found sort of

1213
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: sense of every day as a huge gift, you know,

1214
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: because when you're gone, you're gone. People move on. So

1215
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: let's make the most of it while we're here. So

1216
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: people are like, how do you do it? Aren't you

1217
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: so tired? I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to sit

1218
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: round and complain because look, how lucky I'm just still.

1219
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Be here and to be doing this so true. And

1220
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be all you know, woo woo,

1221
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: but it's true.

1222
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, okay, we have one shot as this person

1223
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: and this body on this planet and so let's make

1224
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: the most of it.

1225
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: So true, right, Yeah, yeah, I think I used my

1226
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: when I when I had hashimotoves, I was I was

1227
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: very much like I need eight hours of sleep. So

1228
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: I said I said no to a lot of stuff

1229
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: because I just wanted to prioritize my rest, which I

1230
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: do think is important. But I do feel like I

1231
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: missed out on life a little bit for like that

1232
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: chunk of time, which is like kind of sad.

1233
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: It is kind of sad, but that was your choice.

1234
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: So that was your path and that's what you chose

1235
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: to do. And now you realize that, so you're not

1236
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: going to make that same mistake again. I think you

1237
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: have to go through these things and you have to

1238
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: make those mistakes, and you know realize, like I wouldn't

1239
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: do that the same way this time.

1240
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: If you so, If any if somebody's listening and they

1241
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: are an entrepreneur want to start their own business, what's

1242
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: one piece of advice that you would give them that

1243
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: you wish you knew twenty years ago.

1244
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's the same thing that I say all the time.

1245
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: It is don't take no for an answer, because every

1246
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: time that one person says no, to you. There's ten

1247
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: more people that are going to say yes, So you

1248
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: have to just you got to kiss a lot of frogs.

1249
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: Is what I say.

1250
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: So it's so funny I say that about dating.

1251
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: It's true in business. Too interesting.

1252
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that.

1253
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: It's true in business. Also, Yeah, you've got to kiss

1254
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: a lot of frogs. And so don't be afraid to

1255
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: kiss those frogs. And because that's going to you're gonna

1256
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: learn something from that one, and you're gonna move on

1257
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: and just just don't bounce. You have to really always

1258
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: be ready to bounce back because a lot of negative

1259
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: things will happen to you, but then a lot of

1260
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: positive things will happen too, And so take that positive

1261
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: momentum and feed that and don't allow yourself to take

1262
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: things personally in business ever, that's another thing, like people

1263
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: are people think way too much about themselves or thinking

1264
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: that it's about them or it's not.

1265
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like someone.

1266
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Could just be having a bad day. Someone might not

1267
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: just like they might not like what you do.

1268
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: That's okay.

1269
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: There's millions of people, there's millions of people in this

1270
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: world like what it's crazy.

1271
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Best piece of advice for somebody that's just starting out

1272
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: in motherhood.

1273
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh well, listen, everybody mothers differently and parents differently, So

1274
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: you can't take judgment from like your mother in law

1275
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: or from anyone else that's going to try to give

1276
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: you their their reasoning of why or how you should

1277
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: be raising your child.

1278
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: It's your child, it's your choice.

1279
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: That's a good one, it is.

1280
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: It's true.

1281
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Any piece of advice for any that's starting their health journey.

1282
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: Don't let your friends like peer pressure you into eating

1283
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: bad food. That's a thing because you go out with

1284
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: your friends, they give you such a hard time and

1285
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: it's really difficult because you'll say, I ate great all

1286
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: day long, and then I went out with my friends

1287
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: and they ordered this for the table, fries for the table,

1288
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: and I felt like I need to eat them because

1289
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: they're all giving me a hard time. Don't let your

1290
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: friends peer pressure you or make you or shame you

1291
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: for how you are taking care of your body.

1292
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big one.

1293
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: It's a huge one, yeah, because you know it goes

1294
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: back to everything like, don't let other people influence you.

1295
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: That's like the biggest like life thing, you know. Don't

1296
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: don't let other people influence the way that you live,

1297
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: but it's the way that you eat.

1298
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: We're so it's so it's such an easy thing to say,

1299
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: but then like you think about it, and it's like

1300
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: all we think about, you know, before you post a photo,

1301
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: you're like, are people going to say this? Are people

1302
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: going to say that? Or da da da da, Like

1303
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: we all just kind of overanalyze everything. In reality, nobody cares.

1304
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Speaker 2: They're all thinking about themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like it was so funny. I was filming this

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00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: like video for my reels and I was like, oh,

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00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I hate that. You can see like my boyfriend was

1308
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: in and he had all these like he like his

1309
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: phone and his keys and all the stuff in his pockets.

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Speaker 1: I was like, can we redo it so it does

1311
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: have all this stuff in his pockets? And then I

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Speaker 1: was like, no one cares. I've never scrolled through Instagram

1313
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: been like that person has too much stuff in their pockets,

1314
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We like overanalyze and are

1315
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: so and.

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Speaker 3: People are just trolling on there anyways, like don't why

1317
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: do you care about you're putting on Instagram?

1318
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: Like people are putting the most random stuff up on there,

1319
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: so like who cares?

1320
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's so true.

1321
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: It's so true.

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Speaker 1: What is the future for Jennifer Fisher? What is the

1323
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: next like five years, look.

1324
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: Like we're going to grow, hopefully rapidly, retail expansion, building

1325
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: the team. You know, now it's time to really now

1326
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: that we're at the space we're in, we're going to

1327
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: work on larger manufacturing, just being more mindful about how

1328
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: we're making the product, really changing how we you know,

1329
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: rebranding us a little bit and coming out in August

1330
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: with the new website is really exciting. I think it's

1331
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Speaker 3: just I'm just going to keep continuing what I'm doing.

1332
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Speaker 3: It seems to be working, working in a direction that

1333
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Speaker 3: I want to go, and it's it's it's just I'm

1334
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Speaker 3: going to stay true to like what I want to

1335
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Speaker 3: be doing. There's a lot of things that I say

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Speaker 3: no to, but the things that I you know, just

1337
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: really focusing on only doing things that I really want

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Speaker 3: to do and say yes to.

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Speaker 1: I will say, like, as an outsider, looking at all

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Speaker 1: your like your jewelry and the salts and like all

1341
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Speaker 1: your websites, you do have a very you're very I

1342
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Speaker 1: don't know what the right word is, but you have

1343
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: like a very clear vision. This very clear brand like

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Speaker 1: it all is very cohesive.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: Wait, and that's hard to do well. We're working on

1347
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: we're working on making it even more so. We've just

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Speaker 3: hired two amazing people that are really helping us do

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Speaker 3: that internally. So in August when it comes out, it's

1350
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Speaker 3: going to be it's going to be great.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

1353
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Speaker 1: And for anybody listening, where can they find you on

1354
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: all the.

1355
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Speaker 3: Socials so they can find me at Jennifer Fisher Jewelry

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Speaker 3: and Jennifer Fisher Kitchen. There's a Jennifer Fisher on there too,

1357
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Speaker 3: but that's like a private one that we're just holding

1358
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: my name on, so not that one. It's Jennifer Fisher

1359
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Speaker 3: Jewelry and Jennifer Fisher Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm always I'm very inspired by you.

1361
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Speaker 1: I admire you a lot, and I just appreciate you

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Speaker 1: taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to be here.

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Speaker 1: I really really do. And I will buy the cookbook

1365
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Speaker 1: when it comes out and all the things. Thank you,

1366
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So good to finally meet you, I know, finally