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Speaker 1: Thursday Thursday, which means our dear friend Mark Lupa joins us, Hey, LUPI,

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Speaker 1: are you there?

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Speaker 1: M hey Luphy Louieve got a gossip to get to today,

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Speaker 1: So let's jump right in. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is to the time. Okay, big story at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show. This breaks my heart. But Wicked

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Speaker 1: for Good has bombed with the critics and now the

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Speaker 1: studio are a little bit worried about it. So is

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Speaker 1: the magic fading in ours? Well, at least it is

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Speaker 1: if you ask the critics. Wicked for Good, the blockbuster

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Speaker 1: seventy one percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Rotten Tomatoes has become

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Speaker 1: that on this show. The original. The original movie got

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Speaker 1: eighty eight percent Tomatoes and went on to be monstrous,

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Speaker 1: So seventy one percent. If I was still at Dartmouth

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Speaker 1: So what do you think here? Mark? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: It hasn't even been released yet. It doesn't come out

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Speaker 2: I can understand that, and I think, listen, if you

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Speaker 1: Acton is full of all the comedy numbers popular and

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