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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hard to go undefeated in the NFL. A

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I said, as it tougher to

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Speaker 1: go winless or undefeated. Well, believe it or not, I

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Speaker 1: think it's really difficult to do both. But I think

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Speaker 1: this year. The Steelers, they hadn't been playing well. I

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Speaker 1: do think that COVID issues with other teams has affected

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Speaker 1: them as well. They look sluggish against the Ravens, and

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Speaker 1: they certainly look sluggish again last night. Only one team

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl era has gone wire to wire,

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Speaker 1: the seventy two Dolphins, and they remind us every year

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Speaker 1: at some point during the season when they toast with Champagne,

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Speaker 1: that they are the only team to go wire to

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Speaker 1: wire in the Super Bowl era. It's especially hard to

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Speaker 1: do it in twenty twenty when you consider everything that

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Speaker 1: has gone on. There was no training camp, there was

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Speaker 1: no preseason games, COVID issues, but in football there's no excuses.

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Speaker 1: It's not that surprising that they lost their first game

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Speaker 1: to Washington last night. They looked out of rhythm, but

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Speaker 1: they looked out of rhythm the week before, and it

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Speaker 1: certainly showed last night. They threw the ball fifty three times,

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball fourteen times, but they were also

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Speaker 1: hurt by a lot of drops. Seven drop passes, They

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Speaker 1: get stopped at the one yard line five times without

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Speaker 1: a point, get called for defensive holding inside the ten

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Speaker 1: and Washington hung in there. And give credit to Washington,

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, Alex Smith the defense. They did the job

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Speaker 1: when they had to do the job last night. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: has played down to the competition way too often. You know,

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Speaker 1: the defense can be great. I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 1: getting with that offense, and with no running game. I

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Speaker 1: don't want Ben throwing the ball fifty times, well fifty

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Speaker 1: three times last night. And now they're in a battle

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Speaker 1: with the Chiefs for the number one seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: The seventy two Dolphins they can celebrate once again. And

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Speaker 1: now it's time for the Steelers to go back to work.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't have James Connor last night, but to

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Speaker 1: get that running game going and you can't have a

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Speaker 1: case of the drops. That's back to back weeks for that,

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Speaker 1: and that's a really good wide receiving corps. Also, the

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Speaker 1: late game the Buffalo Bills. If we're going to look

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Speaker 1: at the Cleveland Browns as a contender, we'd better be

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Speaker 1: looking at the Buffalo Bills. They're both nine and three.

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Speaker 1: And Josh Allen had a wonderful night last night. You know,

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Speaker 1: four touchdown passes, he had no interceptions, he wasn't sacked,

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Speaker 1: he was hit only three times last night, and he

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Speaker 1: threw forty passes, four touchdown passes, four different receivers, and

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Speaker 1: that's a big win. I know this is a damaged

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Speaker 1: forty nine or team, but still winning games this time

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Speaker 1: of the year and doing it in that fashion is

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive. But four touchdown passes for him last night,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to have two more marquee games, nationally

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Speaker 1: televised games. I know we try to shoehorn quarterbacks every week.

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Speaker 1: It feels like into the MVP conversation. But you got

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Speaker 1: the Steelers coming up, and you've got New England, you

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Speaker 1: got a Sunday night in a Monday night game, Josh

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Speaker 1: It's really a two man race. It's Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: of the season, but Josh Allen is now sort of

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Speaker 1: rising above here. When you look at the quarterback draft,

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Speaker 1: that draft a couple of years ago, I remember Cleveland

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Speaker 1: was interested in Josh Allen and then my source said

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Speaker 1: they're not. It's a smokescreen. They're taking Baker Mayfield. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Well, if I said to the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns right now, you can have Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Who are the Cleveland Browns taking? But both are nine

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Speaker 1: and three. But it feels like Buffalo relies on Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen far more than Cleveland relies on Baker Mayfield. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at the Ravens coming up tonight, and you can't sit

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Speaker 1: here and go, well, Dallas can't win this game, because

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Speaker 1: But Washington is a good team. They boarder on a

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Speaker 1: out of excuses here. But I can't sit here and

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Speaker 1: doesn't have weapons as far as the wide receivers go.

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Speaker 1: And it feels like with the injuries they become predictable

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Speaker 1: on offense. Now you're on the outside of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: looking in. It's a big game tonight for them. But

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Speaker 1: it's a big game not only for just one game,

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Speaker 1: but when do they start to kind of hit the

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Speaker 1: This is a team that was it was a foregone

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Speaker 1: it felt like, and then here they are just struggling

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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Who would have thought. So Washington

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Speaker 1: one this season and through for three hundred yards. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's impressive just getting on the fields impressive. But then

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? Okay? This is

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Speaker 1: the poll we started with. Okay, which QB who's under

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Speaker 1: twenty five has to be under? Because Patrick Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: twenty five? Would you want to start a team with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen twenty four, Lamar Jackson twenty three? How is

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson only twenty three, Kyler Murray twenty three, Justin

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Speaker 1: special sauce in that part, Oh man, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson one. Now, last year Kyler Murray feels

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Speaker 1: ahead of schedule. Justin Herbert has played well, the team

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a small sample size. Josh Allen might

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Speaker 1: stand out because you're starting to He's thrown for four

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Speaker 1: last night against the forty nine ers, he looked great.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I'm still not sure about believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence. We always love potential. We always love

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Speaker 1: what we haven't seen yet. You know, Trevor would be

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Speaker 1: like that pornborn player in the NBA where you're you

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Speaker 1: watch the highlight Rione go, I love that guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've seen everything with Trevor Lawrence in three years. Oh

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Speaker 1: if I would put Joe Burrow on here, if you

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Speaker 1: Joe Brow. Joe Burrows showed me an awful lot because

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Speaker 1: that Bengal team wasn't very good and he was getting

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrow would be pretty high on the

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Speaker 1: list to your forming. But johsh Allen has a good team.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson should have a good team. Kyler Murray is

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Speaker 1: that's a good team. And Trevor Lawrence is going to

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Speaker 1: go to the Jets, man, I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 1: I'd say Trevor because he's supposed to be once in

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Speaker 1: the Jets where careers die, I don't know, I have

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Speaker 1: to that's a good that's a good poll question mclovin.

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Speaker 1: What else do you have? By way? What if I

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Speaker 1: Jets with Trevor Lawrence, would that make it a safer bet? No,

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Speaker 1: actually older I think than Mike Tomlin, and he is

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Speaker 1: I just don't know what I'm getting. They have the

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Speaker 1: blueprint to beat anybody in the AFC, including Kansas City

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Speaker 1: on the road, because they run the football. They got

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Speaker 1: a front flour that can put pressure on the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and I don't have to blitz. I got some skilled

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Speaker 1: position guys. It just comes down to Baker Mayfield, it

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Speaker 1: feels like. And then I look at Buffalo. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to expect out of Josh Allen, but it

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Speaker 1: feels like when he plays well, he plays really well.

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Speaker 1: And you saw that last night. How where's the improvement

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen? Where have you seen it? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: called him last night one of the streakiest quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans aren't happy with PFF because we didn't love

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen coming out. But he has improved in so

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Speaker 1: many areas. It starts with accuracy in the short area.

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Speaker 1: This started last year, passes up to twenty yards. You

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Speaker 1: did not see this at Wyoming from Josh Allen. Just

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Speaker 1: the ability to put the ball right on Cole Beasley's

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Speaker 1: front number for catching run opportunities. Those were passing. He

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Speaker 1: pass us. He was airmailing in college. So I think

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Speaker 1: his footwork and accuracy in the short area has been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And then last year he was a disaster when trying

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field, And that's one

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Speaker 1: of those things that tends to fluctuate. It depends. It

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Speaker 1: depends a lot on the receivers that you have. And

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Speaker 1: now we're seeing the combination of Alan's improvement plus what

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's built around him, Right, having Stefon Diggs, having a

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Speaker 1: rookie Gabriel Davis, having John Brown when he's healthy, Guys

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Speaker 1: that can stretch the field over time, you're just gonna

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Speaker 1: have more opportunities to create those chunk plays and Alan

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Speaker 1: has done that. So the combination of his improvement in

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Speaker 1: the short game and what Buffalo has done to build

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Speaker 1: an incredible offense around him. I also love their play calling. Right.

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Speaker 1: We see so many offensive coordinators try to protect their

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Speaker 1: young quarterback by going un run, run, pass right, and

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Speaker 1: just there in third and eight all the time. There

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Speaker 1: are games where the Bills this is very Belichick And

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Speaker 1: they said they did it against the Seahawks a few

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Speaker 1: weeks weeks ago. We can't run against the Seahawks, but

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Speaker 1: we could pass. We're gonna throw the ball thirty five

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Speaker 1: times before our before our running back even carries it

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Speaker 1: five times. That is to the favor of the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: putting him in advantageous situations, throwing on early downs. And

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Speaker 1: this started last year with the Bills. They've put Alan

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Speaker 1: in a great position to succeed. If I look at

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Speaker 1: josh Allen, he had six more completions of twenty or

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Speaker 1: more yards, so his total in the season is forty eight.

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Speaker 1: That ties him with Aaron Rodgers for third most in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Only Mahomes and Deshaun Watson have completed more

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Speaker 1: down the field passes. To what you were saying, Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: I thought, maybe for confidence reasons, i'd sit him down,

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Speaker 1: and because what he was doing on the field was

479
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: not helping him. And I want to see what I

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Speaker 1: have in Jalen Hurts. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: trade Carson Wentz. You know with that big ticket price

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Speaker 1: attached to him, But this is an exploratory time if

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Speaker 1: I'm the Eagles, like who are we and where are

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Speaker 1: we going? And who's going to lead us here? Did

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Speaker 1: you see enough? Like what did you assess with Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts and what we thought was mop up time? But

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Speaker 1: it became a little bit closer in that game against

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah, the Eagles are just in a really

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Speaker 1: tough spot. It's one of those things too. I love

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Speaker 1: the Jalen Hurts pick at the time because I'm all

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Speaker 1: about just finding quarterbacks and quarterbacks that could be a value.

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Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you. I think it might be

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Speaker 1: time for just a breather for Carson Wentz and I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately the Eagles are with it. They're tied to

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Speaker 1: him over the next few years, unless you know, they

496
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Speaker 1: can pull off a miracle and flip him somewhere if

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Speaker 1: that's what they decided to do. So his long term

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Speaker 1: mental health and physical but all that stuff is like

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Speaker 1: the most important thing right now for the Eagles. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, you can find out what you have

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Speaker 1: in Jalen Hurts. He added a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: spark and I'll use the same thing about Hurts that

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00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: I've said about Taysom Hill about Kyler Murray. When you

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00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: have that rushing ability, it just brings a higher floor

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Speaker 1: to your offense. Jalen Hurts is not the most polished passer.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna sit through and make good reads forty

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00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: times a game. But if you add six, eight, ten

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00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: carries per game, it just raises your floor where you

509
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: don't have to be as good of a passer. And

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Speaker 1: it Hurts is a solid pastor. He can hit open throws.

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Speaker 1: He showed that in Alabama, showed at Oklahoma. So I'm

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Speaker 1: intrigued by what I saw and I think it's gonna

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00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: look a little bit different. And you use it in

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00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: the design running game, I think you maybe increase your

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00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurd's value, but I think ultimately the Eagles are

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00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: tied tied to Wentz and they need him to get

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00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: back to where he was in twenty seventeen and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: build a team roster management. You've got free agency coming up.

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00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's leverage coming off an injury surgery, team's not

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00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: performing well. So now what happens once these two sides

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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: get back together again. Are we talking franchise? Are we

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00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: talking long term? I think they'll figure it out long term.

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Speaker 1: The only place Dak has lost leverage I think with

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00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: Dallas is that they might be picking in the top

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Speaker 1: ten and all of a sudden, you know, the Kyle

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Trask's of the world and the Zach Wilsons of the

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00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: world have emerged, and it went from a two QB

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00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: race at one and two with Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields,

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00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Mac Jones too will be

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00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: on the show. Right, Yeah, you have these other guys

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00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: who are intriguing first round talents, and Dallas has that

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Speaker 1: other option. I think Dak's leverage is strong, though, because

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Speaker 1: if you look at his career, he's got four plus

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Speaker 1: seasons of action. I think in two of those seasons

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00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: he's looked like a top ten quarterback. Two seasons he hasn't.

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Speaker 1: This year, he was on his way to a third

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00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: top ten caliber season. When you have that top ten

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Speaker 1: caliber quarterback, you get him, you lock him up and

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: you live with that guy. I think that's what Dak

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: has been these last couple of years. So I think

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00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: the last football we've seen from Dak is so positive,

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00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: whether it's in Dallas or somewhere else. He's the hottest

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00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: commodity in free agency, and we've seen teams that with

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: their When you have the mid tier quarterback, you just

548
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. You could have a

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00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins type season, which is nice right now, you

550
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: can have, you know, a Matthew Stafford type season, which

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00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: is inconsistent. I think Dak brings a level of consistency

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00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: that the NFL teams are going to covet on the

553
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: open market. And I know Jerry needs to win now,

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00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: ons to win now, and almost every owner wants to

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00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: win now. But I wonder if they sat there and

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00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you did have Zack Wilson or

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask, Trey Lance like you just you know, does

558
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Jerry go I could get that rookie quarterback contract, and

559
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I could continue to fill my team with fat contracts

560
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: here and get out from under Dak Prescott's forty million

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00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Do you think Jerry has the patience

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00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: to be able to do that in a situation like this.

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Speaker 1: So that's the exact discussion I think they're going to

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00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: have in the exact thing. I think when we sit

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00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: down and we've built pfi Q, which is this way

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Speaker 1: of helping teams to kind of make these decisions, we've realized, Look,

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Speaker 1: the rookie contract thing is great, but it's greater if

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: you know that quarterback is going to be good. When

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Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson on a rookie contract or Dak on

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Speaker 1: a rookie contract as a fourth rounder. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest steals in the NFL since twenty sixteen. If

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00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: you know the guy's going to be good, that's fine.

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00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: But there's an inherent risk in a Zach Wilson, a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Trask, Mac Jones, whoever it might be, because you've

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Speaker 1: just you've never seen them at the NFL level. There's

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00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: something to the known commodity in Dak Prescott. I think

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00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: ultimately that wins out, but the debate will be rookie

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00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: year contract in this great supporting cast compared to the

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Speaker 1: DAK contract. I don't think the DAK level contract is

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00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: as detrimental as people think it is. If the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is good, and I think he's proven that at forty

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Speaker 1: million or whatever that number is, he will be worth it.

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Speaker 1: Steve always great to talk to you. We appreciate your insights.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, you got it. Thank you DA. That's Steve Palumbozzolo,

585
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: one of the senior analysts there a pro football focus.

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00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. I've been

589
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: saying the last two weeks the Heisman Trophy will probably

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00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: be decided when Alabama faces Florida for the SEC title.

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00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask and Mac Jones looked to be the two

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Speaker 1: front runners there. Mac Jones, the Alabama quarterback, kind enough

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Speaker 1: to join us on the program. I didn't realize this.

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Speaker 1: It's Michael McCorkle Mac Jones. So when did we go

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: from Michael to Mac Jones? Really just early on, like

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00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: in lower school, I think my teacher was a substitute

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: teacher and she called out Michael Jones and I kind

598
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: of like looked around, like and then sure enough, I

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00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, just call me Mack. So it just

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Speaker 1: stuck from there. I guess who calls you Michael? Really

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00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: nobody honestly, Like my parents are not Like they wouldn't

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00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: say hey Michael if they're mad at me. So it's

603
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: always been back and I guess just my legal name

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00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: is Michael. So how do you know when Coach Saban's

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00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: mad at you? Usually he just kind of says like, hey,

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00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: hey Mack, Hey back, and then I know he's coming

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00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: up to me to talk to me, and usually something

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: follows with the lesson of what he's trying to teach me. So,

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00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean it happens, and he obviously coaches me hard,

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00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: so I enjoy that. What if you get a look

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00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: but no words, what's that mean? Words are coming? Oh

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00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: so even if you look, you know, words are eventually coming. Yeah,

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00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: it just it'll take a second. He'll just kind of

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00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: be like and then maybe, you know, tell me, tell

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: me what he wants to say after he looks at

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Speaker 1: me for a couple of seconds. What's your favorite Saban story? Um?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a great like one

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00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: I can tell on here. Well, Okay, Josh Jacobs came

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Speaker 1: on last year and said that Coach Saban likes to

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00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: use the expression d's nuts. Yeah, okay, so we already

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Speaker 1: got that one. And then I did ask Coach Saban

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Speaker 1: and then he did verify that, Yes, he has been

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Speaker 1: known to say how about the d's nuts. So we've

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00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: already established that, Mac. So we can go wherever you

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00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: want to go with Coach Saban. And it feels like, look,

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00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: you're a Heisman candidate. I mean you're okay, all right,

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00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: you won't get in trouble for this. I'll vouch for you.

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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, okay, Um, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: we just we have fun out there and talk a

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00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: little smack to each other, but I don't want to

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00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: get into too many details. Wait, you talk smack back

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00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to coach what you said? You talk smack back to

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Coach Saban? Yeah. I mean maybe he'll like say out

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00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: the coverage and like a couple of our drills and

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00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, cover two, coach, and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you still can't beat it or something like that.

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00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Because I know most of the defensive calls, so I

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: like to listen and I'll be like, oh, is that

639
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: two man coaches that cover seven? And we kind of

640
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: just mess around in that way? How did you end

641
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: up at Alabama? Really? Just in the recruiting process. Coach

642
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Saban invited me to come up to camp, and I've

643
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: never really been to Alabama and my family my dad

644
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: actually drove pretty much overnight to get me a chance

645
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: to throw in front of the coaches at a camp,

646
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: and I just kind of fell in love with coach

647
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: Saban and his process and talking with him, you know,

648
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: being up here at that camp really just sold me

649
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: on Alabama. Yeah, but weren't you in a camp where

650
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Tua was there and you knew Ta was going to Alabama,

651
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: but you still decided that you were going, Like you

652
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: didn't see something that you said, I can't compete with

653
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: with Tuah because if he's going to be the star,

654
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you look at somebody to go maybe

655
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: I should go to Kentucky instead. Yeah, I mean it

656
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: really just came back to just the focus on how

657
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: can I get better and what school will give me

658
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: the best chance to improve. So I didn't really even

659
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: look at it like that. And Tah was obviously committed

660
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: before me, and I committed after Tuah, and I understood

661
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: what type of player or two was. But at the

662
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just, like I said, Coach

663
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Saban kind of just sold me on how he had

664
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: a plan for me to get better and develop as

665
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: a in the weight room, in the film room, all

666
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. And when you're coming here and playing against

667
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: the practicing against the best players in the whole country,

668
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: then you're going to get better. And I knew eventually

669
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: at some point I was going to get a shot,

670
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: so I just had to be prepared for that moment. Yeah,

671
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: but man if I told you three years ago you're

672
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a Heisman finalist, what would you have said, Um,

673
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I just try and prepare every

674
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: day for that moment. And I grew up watching a

675
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: bunch of great quarterbacks and to be in the talks

676
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: of that is really awesome. But at the end of

677
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the day, like I always say this, it's more about

678
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: my teammates and just winning the game and all that

679
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: stuff will take care of itself, because if you focus

680
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: on the wrong things and results and you're not gonna

681
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: end up where you want to be. You grew up

682
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: in Florida, right, Yes, Okay, so give me the good

683
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you saw, probably not in Florida. So who

684
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: were you professionally? Who were you watching and saying that that,

685
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, that's somebody I want to model my game after. Yeah,

686
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean I like watching all NFL football, but I've

687
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: always liked watching like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning,

688
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: people like that growing up. But really I don't have

689
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: like a favorite favorite quarterback or anything like that. And

690
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: obviously I was in Florida, like you said, so I

691
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: was a big Teeboat fan while he was in college.

692
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: So just watching him play it was really cool too.

693
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: Have you met Tibo? Yeah, we've talked before. How did

694
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: that go? It's it's good. I mean I wish I

695
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: could talk to him more, and I'm sure the season

696
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll be able to talk to him at one

697
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: of these media things or something. But um, like I said,

698
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I saw him playing high school and saw him in

699
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: college and now obviously he's doing great things. How many?

700
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: How many Touchdown't you think I could throw in a

701
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: game with your with your wide receivers? Okay when when

702
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy? Yeah, okay, I mean that's just be honest, Mack.

703
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I I know you've had a great year, but um, yeah.

704
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at the guys you're throwing too. Yeah,

705
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I gotta believe I could get maybe one or two

706
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game easily. Like like again, let's say

707
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm facing the old miss or Mississippi State, Like I

708
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: should be able to get one or two, right, Yeah,

709
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, our guys are making plays and

710
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: they're getting open. So i'd assume if you can throw

711
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: it past ten yards or at least give him a chance,

712
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I can just flink it. I can. I can give

713
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: you a probably fifty yards if I need to. And

714
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: those guys are wide open too, I mean, yeah, they

715
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: are wide open. I mean that's that's their job. And

716
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: you know it's it is hard to hit wide open receivers.

717
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, okay, hold on, it's hard to hit

718
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: wide open receivers. Yeah, okay, yeah, explain um. So, I'm

719
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard this before. But it's the hardest

720
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: catch to make for sure, because you know you're wide open.

721
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: You get a little more like ancy and things like that,

722
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: and honestly, when someone's getting covered, it's like more of

723
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: a challenge to put it in the right spot. But

724
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: at the same time, there's all that fuel that you

725
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: can miss and it's just one guy you're looking at.

726
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: So I mean there's there's a good amount of margin

727
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: for air, like popular to what people would probably think.

728
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith's pretty good there, Mac, Yeah, he's pretty good.

729
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Like does he ever amaze you? Oh yeah, yeah. He

730
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: like not only with plays he makes, but like sometimes

731
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: he'll point out the blitzes on the defense And that's

732
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: something that really impresses me about Smitty, whether that's in

733
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: practice or even in the games. Be like, hey, safety, safety,

734
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: blitz right here and the player tell him what to run.

735
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: So that's pretty impressive for sever to be able to

736
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: tell me. Yeah, And he's you know, there are times

737
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: when it feels like he's the best player on the field.

738
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: That game against L. S. Shoe, I mean, it just

739
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: felt like he was the best player out there. He

740
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: definitely is. Like I say this all the time, he's

741
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the country. And he

742
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: works really hard and he's been doing that for the

743
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: past four years at Alabama, and his highlight reel is insane.

744
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: And I just love throwing him the ball because he'll

745
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: if it's one on one, he'll make the play and

746
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: he just has a lot of faith in me, so

747
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate him for that. How much did the smack

748
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: talk from LSU the previous year factor in this past

749
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: weekend against LSU? Um? Yeah a little bit. I mean

750
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: we definitely addressed it. But at the same time, it

751
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: was in new year, and like we obviously didn't feel great.

752
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: We lost the game, Um, you know, a close game

753
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: last year, But we definitely addressed that in our player

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: only meeting about how we just wanted to go out

755
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: there and get a chance to show show LSU what

756
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: the new team looked like. And we definitely played really

757
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: well as a team, so we were excited about that.

758
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: Can you hear Coacho during a game? No? I couldn't

759
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: even I couldn't hear him. Yeah, with that voice, I

760
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: thought that you might be able to hear him. No. Uh,

761
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: what have you graduated? Yeah? So I already graduated last

762
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: year from my undergrad and communication studies, and then I'm

763
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: actually graduating this Saturday again with my masters in Sport Hospitality.

764
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Um, that's a great question.

765
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: I really don't know, Like people always ask me that,

766
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: but maybe I don't know, become like a sports broadcaster.

767
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: Just something around sports because I love sports a lot,

768
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I just want to play as

769
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: long as I can because it's always it's just been

770
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: a part of my life. But how did you learn

771
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: to speak Chinese? So I took that that class, um

772
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: in high school and we just started my freshman year.

773
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: I guess some me and some of my buddies. Um,

774
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: we just kind of spoke it with our our teacher,

775
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: and she taught us everything we knew. Um, And I

776
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of lost a lot of it, but I'm getting

777
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting it back. I guess I have to study

778
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: up on it. Man. You don't want to lose that.

779
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: You you want to be able to speak a couple

780
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: of length. How do you say roll tide in Mandarin Chinese? Um? Uh.

781
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: Usually they just like they'll use like slang words, but um,

782
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean I can say, like I played football Alabama. Okay,

783
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: we are gone lon chio zai Alabama. It's like that

784
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: would be like I play football Alabama. Yeah, you need

785
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: roll tide. You text my I'll text my teacher and

786
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: ask her do you do you do audibles? Like do

787
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: you have fun names for audibles? Um? Not really? So

788
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: you don't get to go to line of scrimmage and

789
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: say yell out something that would be funny or you

790
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: know we see the pro quarterbacks doing this. Yeah, a

791
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean most of the times when we

792
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: when we say something it's it actually means something for

793
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: like the offensive line or the receivers. So there's not

794
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of dummy Um. I guess some verbal things

795
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: that I can do, but there's some dummy signals and

796
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: things like that that we use. And a lot of

797
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: times it's just a play it's called and I can

798
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: check it, or coach Sark, our offensive coordinator will look

799
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: with me and we'll figure out what player you want

800
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: to get next. You got Arkansas coming up? Yes, the

801
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: can't mail it in against Arkansas. Yeah, those guys they're

802
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: playing a lot better, and like we said, you know

803
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: in our team meeting, they've they've lost a bunch of games,

804
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: but by a very small margin, and their record really

805
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: isn't show how good of a team they are. MAC

806
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: last last weekend three eighty five yards, four touchdowns. On

807
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: the season, twenty seven touchdowns, three interceptions, just over three

808
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: thousand yards. It'll be fun here, big Chase there with

809
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: you and Kyle Trask. I don't know if anybody else

810
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: is going to factor in, what do you do better

811
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: than Kyle Trask? I don't think i'd do anything really

812
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: different or better than Kyle. I actually like, really like

813
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: watching Kyle. I actually told him last year, you know,

814
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: when we're watching film on teams, a lot of times,

815
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Florida was the team that we were watching the defense against,

816
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: and I just like watching Kyle play. And I actually

817
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: texted him or shot him an Instagram message and just

818
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: told him that I really enjoyed how he plays football

819
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: and how he plays quarterback, and you can tell he's

820
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: just a really good player and he's doing a great

821
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: job down there. You gotta do better than that talking smack.

822
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you can't come on, Mac, come on,

823
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: you gotta say something. No, all right, yea. Hopefully you'll

824
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: let your play do all the talking when you guys

825
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: go head to hit there. But congrats on the season,

826
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: and we appreciate your time. Thank you, Mac, Okay, thank you.

827
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: Have a nice days, Jones. Thanks for listening to The

828
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live

829
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine

830
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And you can find us

831
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live

832
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Bob Dylan sold some of his music.

833
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm always curious how much you know when we hear

834
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: a billionaires and you realize, like Mark Cuban has more money,

835
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: is worth more money than Paul McCartney or Mick Jagger,

836
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're billionaires. And remember when Michael

837
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: Jackson bought the Beatles music there catalog for four hundred

838
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: million dollars and you think, wow, at the time, it

839
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: seemed like a whole lot of money. And Paul even

840
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: said to Michael Jackson, I believe you should buy our catalog.

841
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: It'd be a great investment. And then Michael did it,

842
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: and then I think the Beatles wanted it back after that.

843
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: But Bob Dylan sold his catalog for what a couple

844
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: of hundred million dollars here, yeah, PAULI. According to Rolling Stone,

845
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: that means all future earnings off Bob Dylan's music will

846
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: go to somebody else, like if it's a streamed, if

847
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: it's in a movie, if it's in a commercial. Going forward,

848
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: in perpetuity, Bob Dylan gets no more. He could record

849
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: new music, and he owns any new music he does.

850
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think Abody's gonna use his new music,

851
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: but he's certainly had. But like I'm always curious what

852
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: they use the song for and and you know what,

853
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: what is the commercial? And then you're gonna use one

854
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: of these songs for it. That that's where it's always

855
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, kind of interesting. Yes, do you mean like

856
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: depend undergarments on the hat? Is it view you don't want?

857
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: That's not what it was made for? That one you

858
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: can't have that. That's disrespectful. There's one like a Nobel

859
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Peace Prize whatever award they gave him that they didn't

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: show up for. You got You got any other ones

861
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: there with Dylan songs? You got one? Mclovin, Well, yeah,

862
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about a high rating. Is gonna fall for

863
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: a wiper company? Is great? Yeah? Okay, yeah, rain X,

864
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: rain X is gonna have Dylan. How much would it

865
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: cost to use Dylan's song or just a portion of

866
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: a song, a clip from a song? Oh yeah, my boy,

867
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Darius Rucker, he got ding Oh the Blowfish got dinged Um.

868
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: We were in Vegas and they were getting ready to

869
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: do a show, and then their manager Rusty says, hey, everybody,

870
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: come here into a hotel room. And uh I was

871
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: there and he said, oh, you can come in. You

872
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: can hear this, And all of a sudden he says, um,

873
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: we owe Bob Dylan two hundred thousand dollars, and I

874
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh boy, this is gonna be good. They

875
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: they took a line or two from Tangled Up in

876
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Blue from Bob Dylan, and Bob's lawyers said, that'll cost

877
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: you two hundred Okay, we appreciate that. Yes, you can

878
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: make that check payable too. And then Darius, you know,

879
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: a couple of decades later, you know records of what

880
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: a Wagon Wheel? Written by Bob Dylan, and here he

881
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: is making Bob Dylan even more money, but it cost

882
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: him to cost hooting the Blowfish two hundred thousand dollars

883
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: to take a little snippet out of that with Bob Dylan, Yeah,

884
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: the club. Do you think it's fair that, like the

885
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: great musicians of the seventies, do you get sad when

886
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: their songs are in commercials. I don't know if led

887
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Zeppelin is in car commercials, but it seems like a

888
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: commercialization of a great rebellious rock movement. When you hear like,

889
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, like a Dylan song in a car ad,

890
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be depressing. Um, well, I got tired of

891
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Bob Seegers like a rock. But I didn't think. I

892
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't look down upon Bob Seeger because he sold that

893
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: clip to whatever that was, Chevy or Ram or Ford,

894
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, like like a rock. But I mean, after

895
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: a while, if you didn't cash in musically in a

896
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: certain period of time, like after the nineties, it felt

897
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: like musician, you weren't cashing in on making money the

898
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: way they once did, certainly with records. And if you

899
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: were able to make money, great, If you weren't, you

900
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: want to sell it, great, it's yours. You own it.

901
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: And if they're comfortable with giving it to a truck company,

902
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: who am I? Oh, hey, you're ruining that song for me. Well,

903
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: it's your song, do whatever you want. You have a season, right, Yeah,

904
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: it's not your song, it's my song. Yeah, And I'm

905
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: trying to make a living, so sorry. And then Stevie Nicks,

906
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I think just sold a portion of her music catalog

907
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: for one hundred million dollars and that's just a portion

908
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: of her catalog. Yes, Paul, there's an episode of that

909
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: great show mad Men where the guys from the advertising

910
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: agency go to a Rolling Stones concert and they're trying

911
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: to talk to the management of the Rolling Stones about

912
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: using one of their songs in a car commercial, and

913
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: the other people like that would never happen. A group

914
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: would never do that. This is this is their their

915
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: heart and soul. They'll never do that, and they go

916
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: away and they don't get it, but it's they're kind

917
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: of poking fun the Madman episode like this is gonna

918
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: be the future, but look what happened back then when

919
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: we try to do with the Rolling Stone. I'm gonna

920
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: guess this audience is going to be all in on this.

921
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: If you want to tweet or email or dial us up.

922
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: If you were thinking of Bob Dylan songs that could

923
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: be used, Fritzie came up with if you have kidney

924
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: stones and it's a kidney health medication like a Rolling

925
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: Stone would be Uh, that could fit. Yeah, it wouldn't work. Yeah,

926
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: you could do Weight Watchers and Ballad of a Thin Man. Okay,

927
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: that would work. Um yeah, mclovin. How about Downey Tangled

928
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: Up in Blue? No, that's not good. That's not good.

929
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think well. I mean, if you look, it

930
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: depends on how badly you want to put the song

931
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, I think we should fight against this,

932
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: like like the times they are changing. These are counterculture

933
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: songs against the man. Commercial songs are the man. Like

934
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: it's times, they are a change. Yes, like I tell

935
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: you watched out the meaning of everything Bob Dylan men

936
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: it's years. Yeah, but if he's okay with it, then

937
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: we should be okay with it. Yeah, Like he's the

938
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: one that sold it. He's the one that actually Yeah,

939
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: why you're you're really serious about this? MC? Yeah, rock

940
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: and roll music was supposed to be about giving it

941
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: to the man, you know, Woodstock, you know, and the

942
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Vietnam War pay the bills for some of these musicians,

943
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: I mean not all was never about art was never

944
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: about paying the bills until about the year two thousand,

945
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: when art and commerce got completely screwed up together. There

946
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I said that to an artist. Yeah, art was never

947
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: about paying the bills. You should tell that to the artist,

948
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: And that's serious. And the seventies of the eighties it

949
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: was about the art. It wasn't about the money. I mean,

950
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: like honestly, this is the way America used to be. Yes,

951
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? And they have Stevie Nick

952
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: stand back all sort of colitis. I have no time

953
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: for you. I gotta get on stage. Then it's gonna

954
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: be a very very awkward thing. You don't like that

955
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: one stand back? You? If I see those commercials, not

956
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: today crows got it, but they had that stay I'm back.

957
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: Yes boys, Hey, mister tangerine man. I don't want to

958
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: make upset Andrew, but the Tangerine Foundation of America, they're

959
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: they're right there, they're poised. We'd have to alter the lyrics.

960
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: I do love that one commercial though, where the woman's

961
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: got uh and it might be colitis or something like that,

962
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: and like she's in a band and she's the lead singer.

963
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, playing looking around for he like, where's Janice?

964
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: I can't he the Humera band? Yea, yes, the answer

965
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: my friend is blowing in the wind. It's not to

966
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: throw stuff at us. Can we get her out of

967
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: the bathroom for God's sake? Yeah? Oh, speaking of musicians, Uh,

968
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: the fortieth anniversaries that sound right. When Howard Cosell on

969
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football announced the death of John Lennon, and

970
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: this is how it sounded on ABC. I don't care

971
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: what's on the line, Howard. We have to say what

972
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: we go in the book. Yes, we have to say it.

973
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Remember this is just a football game. I'm out of

974
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: who win? Saw loses? An unspeakable tragedy conferred to us

975
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: by ABC News in New York City. John Lennon outside

976
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: of his apartment building on the West side of New

977
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: York City, the most famous, perhaps of all of the Beatles,

978
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: shot twice and look back rush the Rosebound hospital, dead

979
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: on arrival. Frank Gifford, the former football player, was the

980
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: play by play voice of Monday Night Football and he

981
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: is saying to Howard Cosell, no, we have to do this,

982
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: and Howard is thinking, maybe you have somebody from the

983
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: newsdesk and you break into programming or you go to

984
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: them with his special report. And Howard Cosell at the

985
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: time was as big, if not bigger, than any other

986
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: TV personality. And you know, at the time, you know

987
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: there's no CNN, there's no twenty four hour news, and

988
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you had Howard Cosell delivering that news

989
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: on Monday Night, and I think how at the time

990
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: during the commercial break was saying, the game is too close,

991
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: and Howard, I think, eventually realized the magnitude of John

992
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Lennon being shot, that this wasn't about a football game,

993
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: this was about something larger than that, but Monday night football,

994
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: in the importance of Monday Night football, and Howard Cosell

995
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: that it didn't seem out of the ordinary, at least

996
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: for me as I'm watching the game, that John Lennon

997
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: had just been shot, and that Howard Cosell was telling

998
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: me that John Lennon had just been shot. But the

999
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: fact that you had Frank Gifford saying, no, no, you

1000
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: have to do it, and I think Howard is saying

1001
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: with his news judgment, maybe we should have Peter Jennings

1002
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: or somebody else from the ABC news desk with this,

1003
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: or if there was more information. At the time, there

1004
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: wasn't more information. And then once Monday Night ended and

1005
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: then you know, the news programs took over. But back then,

1006
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, you didn't you didn't have that ability. If

1007
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: you had CNN, it was in the embryonic stages, I'm guessing,

1008
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: but you know you were still looking at ABC, NBC

1009
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: and CBS, for your news back then. But that was

1010
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: forty years ago tonight that John Lennon was murdered outside

1011
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: of his apartment building the Dakota, and John Madden lived there.

1012
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if John still has a place there,

1013
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: but you know, Yoko still lives there. But John Madden

1014
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: had a place in the Dakota. And it's right off

1015
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: of Central Park. And as you go outside the Dakota

1016
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: and beautiful apartment building, and you go down into the

1017
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: park and there's Strawberry Field that Yoko had set up.

1018
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: So right off the exit as you're coming out of

1019
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: the park, there's the memorial, the Tribute to Strawberry Fields. Yeah, mcclevin,

1020
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Barbara streisandland next door to the Dakota, And I know

1021
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: that because I've been in there, her apartment, you know,

1022
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's still one of those bizarre stories

1023
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: when you told us, And I don't need to know

1024
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: how you told us, because it's not like you. You

1025
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: don't drink, so it's not like you go, hey, you know,

1026
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: I never told you this story. I don't know how

1027
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: that came up, where all of a sudden you said

1028
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: my friend was house sitting for Barbara Streisand right, and

1029
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: then he invited you over. I think it's because the

1030
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: friend is still an avid listener in La and Sense shows,

1031
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: sends notes to the show all the time and actually

1032
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: asked me to bring it up once. But you've never

1033
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: gone weird science and put braws on your head with

1034
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: your buddies and tried to do something not in Barbara

1035
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Streisand's apartment, Like what leads you to go? You know

1036
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking of doing? What are you thinking of doing? Well?

1037
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know you thinking what I'm thinking. I don't know.

1038
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of putting Barbara Streisand's brawl in my head.

1039
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Yeah, Seed, I don't know

1040
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: what let d injured to that decision, but it was brilliant.

1041
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: It was absolutely genius, and I'm so happy that he

1042
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't because it's an all time great story. I mean,

1043
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Nobody else hands through this story correct. I

1044
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: don't know, like it would anybody here not put Barbara

1045
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: streis Hand's brawl on their head given the opportunity. I mean,

1046
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: that's as a life that thing Seaton clearly, I mean,

1047
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: he would have been the third we would have to

1048
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: find a third broad There's no doubt about that. I

1049
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: just can't imagine what's going through your mind, where, of

1050
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: all the things that you could do in Barbara Streisand's apartment,

1051
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: you're thinking of putting a brawl in your head. Yeah,

1052
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: it's great. And here Seaton and I were thinking we're

1053
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: the only ones who've done really, really stupid things. But no,

1054
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: that one's up there. That was a pretty good one.

1055
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. I'm so proud of you, Andrew.

1056
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Is it better or worse that Andrew doesn't have a

1057
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: picture of him doing it? Would it be better that

1058
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: he had it? Or is it the mystery pop? I

1059
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: think the mystery just imagining, Like you know, Denver's Airport

1060
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: has the cones. If you've ever flown in there, it's

1061
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: like it looks like, you know, twenty five of Madonna's bras,

1062
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're just sticking up these cones. And I

1063
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: could just see that with mclovin and looked like ears

1064
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: that he had with Babs's bra Yes, hunt and no

1065
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: fear of like you know, leaving fingerprints or what if

1066
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: she's like obsessive compulsive and he didn't put it back

1067
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: in the exact spot that it was in. I don't

1068
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: know if she would have and I don't know if

1069
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: she would have. You know, like CSI come in, someone

1070
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: moved for prints here, yes, Fay Like like people like

1071
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: barbarst I say, Adam Maria care probably have so much money.

1072
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Dave a monthly bras sweep. Someone comes in, it sweeps

1073
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: the whole apartment, checks for Prince, checks for DNA. Well,

1074
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: everybody would have security cameras now, but back then, you know,

1075
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: Babs didn't have a security camera. Yeah, such a great story.

1076
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you stole a hat out of Charles Barkley's car, Yes,

1077
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: at a driving range, but that doesn't even come close

1078
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: to this. That's really the two stories I got. And

1079
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: when I broke my glasses on the show. That's about

1080
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: the three things in the In the obituary for Andrew

1081
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Prolom didn't steal, but he didn't. He didn't steal the

1082
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: bra He put it back. He's not like a kleptomaniac.

1083
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: It was just the Barkley head. Well, I don't know.

1084
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he put it back in the draw. No,

1085
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: I put it back. I didn't realize that she might

1086
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: be dusting for finger Press never because when you get

1087
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: back from LA you gotta check your bras, right. I

1088
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but it's it's such a

1089
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,120
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1090
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,880
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1091
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1092
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: Search f SR to listen live. Aaron McMahon a covers

1093
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverine for The n Arbor News and mlive

1094
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: dot com. And we got drama this week, at least

1095
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: it feels like that, Aaron. There's normally drama leading up

1096
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: to Ohio State in Michigan. And I got so many

1097
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: questions here as of right now, is Michigan practicing They are, Yeah,

1098
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: they started limited workouts on Monday, They're expected to do

1099
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: the same today. But the chances of the game happening

1100
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: still I'd say fifty to fifty at this point. Why

1101
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: is that a combination of things? I mean, Michigan was

1102
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: a banged up team before they hit the COVID outbreak

1103
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: last week, and then they're expected to lose anywhere between

1104
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen guys from coronavirus, and then it still

1105
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: remains unclear how many guys have been out because of

1106
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: contract contact tracing. So Michigan's they know they're depleted roster

1107
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: at this point, depleted team. They may not have their

1108
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: starting quarterback Kid mcma or either Saturday, So there's just

1109
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of them, certainly around this program at this point.

1110
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Who would make the decision to play or not to play.

1111
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: Michigan said, it's on their doctors. They've they've taken a

1112
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: pretty cautious approach to this whole thing from from the

1113
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: get go. You know, they've been following Big Ten protocols

1114
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: um but it's unclear at this point too how many

1115
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: how many positive players they've had. You know, we've got

1116
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: we've got a department ye number on last week on Friday,

1117
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: but Michigan's football program has specifically set so we're still unsure.

1118
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: But Michigan has said they've left the decision in the

1119
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: hands of their doctors and medical personnel. Any word from

1120
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: Jim Harball in the last twenty four hours, No, he

1121
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: was expected to talk to us today at noon. That

1122
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: has since been canceled here in the last ten minutes.

1123
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: So that's that's not good news. If you're looking if

1124
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: you're anticipating in a game on Saturday, because we thought

1125
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe that Michigan getting back into into workouts on Monday

1126
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: was a step toward them playing. Uh, while they're while

1127
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: they are going to continue workouts today, they're still going

1128
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: to remain limited. And what my understanding is that that's

1129
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: just helmets and not pads. Separate fact from fishing if

1130
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: you can. Because there was a report over the weekend

1131
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: and maybe Harball was looking towards the NFL, and then

1132
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I saw a report that maybe Michigan's looking at extending

1133
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Jim harball Is contract. Here where do we stand with

1134
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: the future of Jim Horball. Yeah, the contract extension is

1135
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: no surprise. I mean, Jim Harball but even before the

1136
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: season told us that there were discussions between him and

1137
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: Michigan's athletic director Warren Manuel about an extension. They were

1138
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: tabled that he said, because of the coronavirus concerns and

1139
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: the athletic department's finances. So that's not a huge surprise,

1140
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: but it's certainly it's a different situation now now at

1141
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Michigan's off to a two and four start, there's a

1142
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of questions in two and six start, excuse me,

1143
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot of questions swirling about his you know, his

1144
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: status and whatnot. But it's it's it's a it's an

1145
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: interesting predicament here because I think at the end of

1146
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: the day, and I've said this before, Michigan I don't

1147
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: think it's interested in firing Jim Harball. Uh. You know,

1148
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: there's too much respect there. He's had, he's had. He

1149
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: provided stability to this Michigan football program, and I think

1150
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: they like that. But you know, in regards to success,

1151
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: I know, I think most folks would degree that Michigan

1152
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't gotten them over the hup. They haven't reached

1153
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of the Big Ten, they haven't gotten the playoff,

1154
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: and I think that that irks the books. So it

1155
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: does sound like Michigan has extended a contract extension to Harball.

1156
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if it's for fewer years

1157
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: and less money than he was making before. But I

1158
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: don't think Michigans are ready to walk away from Jim

1159
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: just yet. Well, Michigan might not be willing, But what

1160
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: about that fan base, what about the boosters, the alumni.

1161
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's starting to grow there. There has been

1162
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: some more criticism, especially the last few weeks given Michigan

1163
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: start to this season, and I wouldn't say that was

1164
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: the case as much before the season started. Um, you

1165
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: still had a large faction of folks that were happy

1166
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: with Jim Harball and the job he had done, because

1167
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: you gotta remember, I mean, Michigan's program is by and

1168
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: large been relatively clean. They've been you know, the negative

1169
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: headlines have not been there. Um, the stability has been there.

1170
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: They've won enough games. Remember Jim Harball, you know, while

1171
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten Michigan the Big Ten championship, he's won

1172
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: about seventy percent of his games he's coached, so they

1173
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: win more than they lose. Um. So yeah, there was

1174
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: a there was a growing faction that liked him and

1175
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: still wanted in there. And still I still, I still

1176
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: believe that Michigan by and large is happy with the

1177
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: job he's on. But yeah, the fan base and the

1178
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: boosters are starting to grow, you know, frustrated, I think

1179
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: at the lack of lack of results. If I said

1180
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: to the fan base, Michigan plays Ohio State or Michigan

1181
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: does not play Ohio State, what do you think the

1182
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: fan base would vote for? I'll go off. Based off

1183
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: my emails and what I've seen I've gotten on social media,

1184
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: it seems like a majority of the fan base does

1185
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: not want to play Saturday's game because of the fear

1186
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: of what could happen. And when I say that, I

1187
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: mean them getting blown out to epic proportions, and it's

1188
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: it's not out of the you know, the real possibility.

1189
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: In the last few years, Michigan who has arguably you know,

1190
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: a better team, and they have this year, Uh, they

1191
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: struggled and going in there, this this, this, you know,

1192
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: this year, perhaps with down their third string quarterback, I

1193
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: don't think the expectations are for you know, them to

1194
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: keep a close So the fan base, I don't think

1195
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: you want Saturday's game to happen. Uh, they're the ray

1196
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: of the season theoretically to end and then kind of.

1197
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: But I think there's clarity desired there too. They want

1198
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: to know what's going to go happen with Jim Harball,

1199
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: whether he stays or whether he goes. And I think

1200
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: that's what's makes this this week so interesting. But also

1201
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: you could ruin Ohio States season in qualifying for the

1202
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Unless it feels like the Big Ten's going

1203
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: to do whatever they can to crown Ohio State a

1204
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten champ or you know, whatever it is, so

1205
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: they can you know, qualify for the playoffs or whatever

1206
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: is going to be you know, added to this, But

1207
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: could you see Michigan could could you see Michigan opting

1208
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: to do that where we don't play them, therefore we

1209
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: can't get blown out and we could do some damage

1210
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: to Ohio State in the Big Ten race. I think

1211
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: the first two things are valid. Now. I don't know

1212
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: if there's an inkling behind the scenes at least within

1213
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: the program to you know, quote unquote destroy Ohio State season.

1214
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't from from you know, dealing with Jim Harball

1215
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of years and the way he operates,

1216
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I think I think generally,

1217
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: if you ask Jim Harball, I think he'd want to

1218
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: play this game. He'd preferred to know, there's a desire

1219
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: to practice you know, last late last weekend and even

1220
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: play last weekend's game, and Michigan's medical doctors thought it

1221
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: thought otherwise. So I don't know, it's hard to address

1222
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: that just because yes, I think there's a segment of

1223
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: the fan base that would like that just because they

1224
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: haven't been able to beat them the last couple of years.

1225
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: But I think to say that, you know, the folks

1226
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: inside the program necessarily want to destroyal House States season,

1227
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: I think it would be an accurate and like you said,

1228
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten is ready to step in

1229
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: and make sure that you know, Ohio State does play

1230
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: a sixth game, or amends the rules entirely and lets

1231
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: them into the Big Ten title game next week. You know,

1232
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: having only played five games. Man, it's crazy, it is,

1233
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and I don't believe for a second Jim

1234
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: Harball doesn't want to play this game. He might deep

1235
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: down know that this could really you know, this could

1236
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: be really embarrassing. But you know, the competitor is I've

1237
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: known Harball thirty years. I just can't imagine and his dad,

1238
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he would go, you know what,

1239
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: let's take the easy way out and not play. That

1240
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they might not play this game due to COVID,

1241
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think for a second that Harball would

1242
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: allow them. Should be a next interesting next couple of days.

1243
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: There for you, Aaron, we appreciate your time. Thanks for

1244
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: joining us, no problem. Thanks Dan, that's Aaron McMahon. Thanks

1245
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,000
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1246
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,919
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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,240
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1248
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,680
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1249
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,680
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