1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: They say is the Bloomberg Daybreak Euroup podcast, available every 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Friday, 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: the fourth of October in London. I'm Stephen Carroll. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: And I'm Lizzie Burden. Coming up today, The price of 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: oil steadies after surging on fears Israel may strike Iranian 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: crewed facilities. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: Fast fashion giant she In looks to sparkle for investors 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: ahead of a possible London IPO. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Plus the Goldman Sachs Prodigy struggling to crack into the 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: hedge from Elite will have exclusive reporting on Isisler capital's 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: recent difficulties. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 4: The price of. 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: Oil has steadied following its biggest one day jump in 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: almost a year. The move follows concerns that Israel may 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: decide to strike Iranian crude facilities in response to Tehran's 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: missile barrage. Earlier this week, Brent surged by five percent 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: after President Joe Biden said the US was discussing whether 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: to support potential Israeli a tax on Iranian energy infrastructure. 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: He spoke to reporters on the White House lawn just 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: as he prepared to board Marine one. 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 5: You support inrail shrinking ylan coil facilities service. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 6: We're under structure, a big down reel old anyway. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: The Middle East accounts for about a third of the 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: world's oil supply, and Iran is the large third largest 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: producer in OPEC. The spiking prices comes as fears grow 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: of an all out war in the Middle East. On Thursday, 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: Israel said it bombed more than a dozen Hesbala targets 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: in Beirut, while G seven countries warned against an uncontrolled 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: cycle of escalation. 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: France's Prime minister says planned tax increases will hit about 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: three hundred of the country's biggest companies. Speaking during an 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: interview at Transitor Television, Michelle Bonnie says he's not happy 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: about the move, but the increase will be a temporary one, 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: lasting for one or two years. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 7: I'm there will be a two thirds reduction in public 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 7: spending and that will be very difficult. One third will 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 7: come from an exceptionally temporary targeted tax on whom I 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 7: will tell you, from the biggest French companies, those that 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 7: make one billion or more in turnover. 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: That's Michelle Bargnier there speaking through a translator. The measure 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: is intended to help rein in the French budget deficit. 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Barnier says tax increases for individuals will be increased for 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: the wealthiest, which he defines as a couple with an 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: annual income of half a million euros or more. 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: Fast Fashi and Shean is taking the next step in 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: its journey to become a public company. That's despite still 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: awaiting official sign off for the move. Bloomberg Tea at 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: a Bio has the details. 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: Worth an estimated fifty billion pounds, Shean's IPO would make 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: it one of the biggest London listings in the last decade. 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 8: Now. 54 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: Sources say the retailer is holding early investor meetings to prepare. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 5: It's been a complicated process for the brand, which some 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: have accused of using forced labor practices after plans for 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: a New York flotation when met with opposition from lawmakers. 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 5: Bloomberg understands she In confidentially filed papers in the UK, 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: but the idea has also sparked backlash here. Just last month, 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: the chair of the Commons Business and Trade Committee called 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 5: for greater scrutiny of the company's supply chain. A company 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: spokesperson said at the time that she has a zero 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: tolerance policy for forced labor in London to you, added 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: Bayo Bloomberg Radio. 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: HSBC is said to be canceling some events and further 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: curtailing travel as the bank's new CEO seeks to keep 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: a tight lid on casts. Sources say have recently scrapped 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: a summat of commercial bankers in India, as well as 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: some other off side events around the world. The bank 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: has already slowed hiring and asked investment bankers to rein 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: in their travel and expenses. 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Dock workers at US East and Gulf Coast Ports have 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: agreed to start moving cargo again. That's as they continue 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: collective bargaining with their employers on a new contract. Bloomberg's 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,559 Speaker 3: Scott car. 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 6: Reports the long Shoreman's Association in the US Aritime Alliance 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 6: say they've reached a tentative agreement on wages and we'll 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 6: extend their existing master contract through this January fifteenth, at 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 6: which point Bloomberg's Managing editor of Economic Policy, Kate Davidson 80 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 6: says they'll still have to negotiate several outstanding issues. 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 9: One of the things that they wanted were greater protections 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 9: against the kind of automation that we've seen at ports 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 9: on the West Coast, and so that was a real 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 9: sticking point. This tensitive agreement doesn't address that, but it 85 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 9: does go some way toward addressing some of the wage demands. 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 9: So they've agreed to a temporary deal that would at 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 9: least allow them to start moving cargo again. 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: Davidson says both sides were apparently under heavy pressure from 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 6: the White House to come to an agreement in Washington. 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 6: I'm Scott Carr Bloomberg Radio. 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg is now the world's second richest person the 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: meta platform CEO and founders Networth Nicetown's at just over 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: two hundred and six billion dollars according to the Bloomberg 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: Billionaires Index port Zuckerberg just ahead of Jeff Bezos, but 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: still around fifty billion dollars behind Elon Musk, who retains 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: the top spot. Shares and Meto continued to climb in 97 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: recent months as investors become more confident in the company's 98 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: bet on the metaverse. In a moment will bring you 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: more on those rising tensions in the Middle East, plus 100 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: a story showing how even the biggest names in investing 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: can struggle to build a top flight hedge fund. Put first, 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: another story that caught her eye this morning, the quest 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: to bring back the Dodo, among others. I should point 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: out in case you think that one extinct bird was 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: getting special treatment. So this is the latest investment that's 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: going into a startup called Colossal Biosciences. It's the Lord 107 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: of the Rings director Peter Jackson and his partner, producer 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: fran Walsh, putting ten million dollars into this company. Their 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: mission to try and bring back the likes of the Dodo, 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: the Wooly mammoth, the Tasmanian tiger. The process involves, and 111 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm not a scientist, so forgive me collecting ancient genetic 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: material from museums and fossils and combining them with their 113 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: closest surviving specie. Lizzy, you look skeptical. 114 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: I wonder if he knows that you can't bring back 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: the hobbit. 116 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: But look, if Harry's back is one of the questions. 117 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 4: But yeah, if. 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: Paris Hilton and the Winkleboss Twins are investing that, obviously 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: this is a good idea. 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's it's very ambitious. Certainly, by the way, 121 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: in case you're wondering how these investors might plan to 122 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: get their money back, the plan is is that they 123 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: the returns would come through spinning out the genetic engineering 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: technology developed along the way. Certainly a big bet in 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: attracting some big names as well. 126 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: Can I bring back my own Calalin then, I mean, 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: I'm not getting into that. That's a whole of the 128 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: cattle of fish. 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: I really need to learn how this works. But should 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: we get back to the serious news of the morning 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: to the Middle East. Now, Israel has bombed more his 132 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: blood sites in Beyrout as we await the country's response 133 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: to the Iranian missile barrage. Earlier this week, a statement 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: from the G seven called on countries in the region 135 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: to quote act responsibly and with restraint and our a 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: mere News director Roslyn Matheson joins US now for more ros. 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: We had oil prices jumping yesterday after President Joe Biden 138 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: said that they were discussing these attacks. Is that now 139 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: thought to be the most likely option being considered? 140 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 10: Well, it seems like Joe Biden has ruled out the 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 10: US assisting Israel if they were to try and target 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 10: Israel's nuclear facilities, and it's very doubtful that Israel could 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 10: do that on its own, so that seems to be 144 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 10: off the table, and that would really be pardon the pun, 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 10: the nuclear option here. That would be the thing that 146 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 10: would really trigger escalation in the region. These are the 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 10: nuclear enrichment facilities in Iran. They're deeply guarded, and they're 148 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 10: deeply underground, and they're very hard to get to, and. 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 8: That's for a reason, obviously. 150 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 10: But the conversation is really about what kind of response 151 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 10: Israel can do needs to do here. Because the blizzard 152 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 10: that we saw from Iran was slightly different from the 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 10: one in April. These were just ballistic missiles, so they 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 10: got there a lot faster. 155 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 8: So there was an element of surprise there. 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 10: There was some risks that they were going to hit 157 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 10: cities as a result, did appear to even get through, 158 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 10: and so for Israel now it's like they can't just 159 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 10: do what they did back in April, which would send 160 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 10: some drones to an Iranian military site and call themselves done. 161 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 10: It does there is a conversation around maybe targeting is 162 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 10: Iran's oil infrastructure, that obviously would be significant, not only 163 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 10: for Iran, but also for the oil market, for the 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 10: global supply. 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 8: We've seen oil generally shrug off. 166 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 10: The tensions in the Middle East this year, and that's 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 10: because they're not that worried about supply. But if you 168 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 10: get supply affected from Iran, then you've got a major 169 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 10: change for the market. So do they hit a military site, 170 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 10: do they hit oil installations? It seems to be one 171 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 10: of those two, But it seems like the nuclear sites 172 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 10: are off the. 173 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: Table, okay, so or the focus now on oil and 174 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: potentially other options involved there as well. At the same time, 175 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: ras we've had Israel striking more targets in Lebanon. 176 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: What do we know about the situation on the ground 177 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: there well. 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 10: As you were saying, that hit about another dozen sites 179 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 10: in Beirut overnight. Authorities say that a number of people 180 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 10: were killed, particularly in a medical facility that seems to 181 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 10: be affiliated with Hesbelah. So you do have a continuation 182 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 10: of heavy stripes on Beirut itself, but you also have 183 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 10: Israeli troops still operating over the border into Lebanon, and 184 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 10: that's what Israel has said is going to be targeted 185 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 10: and limited action. It's very unclear how many Israeli troops 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 10: are there, but we do know they are engaging, it 187 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 10: seems with Hesbela over the border. There's been reports of 188 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 10: a number of skirmishes in different villages, certainly of some 189 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 10: firefights that are going on. So it doesn't seem that 190 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 10: it's going to stay necessarily limited and targeted. 191 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 8: Of course, for Israel, the questions do they. 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 10: Get pulled in over the border in a protracted fashion. 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 10: So we are seeing really multiple fronts now inside Lebanon 194 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 10: for Israel, both in terms of air strikes that are 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 10: continuing on Beirut and their troops operating on the ground 196 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 10: just over the border. 197 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: Well, where you've got the G seven statement calling for 198 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: a restraint, Is anyone going to listen. 199 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 8: The G seven? That is the question. 200 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 10: The G seven has been calling for a restraint and 201 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 10: a lot of things for a long period of time, 202 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 10: not just in the Middle East, but also obviously when 203 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 10: it comes to the Russia's war with Ukraine, and the 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 10: question is does Iran and Israel really listen to. 205 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 8: Anybody at this point? 206 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 10: I mean, if the Israeli administration is not necessarily taking 207 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 10: strong cues from the US. It's single biggest ally militarily 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 10: and so on. Then is it going to listen to 209 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 10: calls from restraint from the G seven. Of course, we've 210 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 10: seen the G seven calling for ceasefires in Gaza for 211 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 10: nearly a year now with the war that's going on 212 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 10: there and obviously now in Lebanon, and keen to try 213 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 10: and create the environment for that to happen and to 214 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 10: facilitate talks on it. But what the G seven can 215 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 10: tangibly do, aside from perhaps discuss further sanctions on Iran, 216 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 10: you know, it is really hard to see. 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Whereas as we're waiting to see what Israel does next, 218 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious about the position that Banjaminetta Yahu is. Then 219 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: he had been criticized at home over his handling of 220 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: the war in Gaza. Does this escalation on several fronts 221 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: strength and his political possession in Israel, Well. 222 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 10: There have been ebbs and flows in his position, in 223 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 10: his position at home, and certainly he's quite hemmed in 224 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 10: by the Right, and he in fact that sort of 225 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 10: of his own making in a way, because of the 226 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 10: deals he's done with the right in Israel, his personal 227 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 10: popularity does seem to ebb and flow. But in these moments, 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 10: of course, a great challenge for Israel. You do see 229 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 10: people tending to rally behind the government on this, and 230 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 10: certainly the feeling that for people who've been living in 231 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 10: the north of Israel that they do want to return 232 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 10: to their homes. They've been unable to return to their 233 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 10: homes because of shelling by Hesbalah for almost a year now. 234 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 10: There's a strong desire to do that across the country, 235 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 10: and so you can say that that. 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 8: Is a unifying point in a way for the government. 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 10: They're doing this because they want to create a safe space, 238 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 10: they say, for all Israel's for all Israelis inside Israel, 239 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 10: and so that might be a moment again of support 240 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 10: for Benjamin Netnia, who in the broader run, of course, 241 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 10: there are big questions about his leadership. 242 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: Okay, Armia News director Roslyn Matheson, we thank you for 243 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: the update. 244 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Next to a story from the hedge fund industry. Three 245 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: years ago, Ed Eisler left his job leading Goldman Sachs 246 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: as trading division set up his own fund, capitalizing on 247 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: a rush of money into multi strategy firms. He's a 248 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: big name at Goldman, but three years then Isisler Capital 249 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: is losing money, showing how hard it is to build 250 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: a top flight hedge fund. Our headphond reporter Nahan Kumar 251 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: joins us now for more details on this story in 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: Nishankum Morning. Tell us a bit more then about Ed 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: Eisler and Sam Wisnia, who was another big Goldman name 254 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: who joined him in this venture. 255 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 11: I mean Ed Eisler is one of the best names 256 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 11: in the industry right now. He spent two decades at Goldman. 257 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 11: He was one of the best and brightest in the 258 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 11: words of Goldman's CEO. Then he swiftly progressed in his career, 259 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 11: becoming a partner by the age of just thirty, eventually 260 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 11: climbing the corporate ladder and he ran the once money 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 11: spinning trading division of Goldman. In terms of his origin, 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 11: he was born in Russia and raised in Austria. At 263 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,479 Speaker 11: the age of eighteen, he moved to US for studies. 264 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 11: He got his first taste of finance working at Lehman Brothers, 265 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 11: where he did Masters in Applied Mathematics in the evening, 266 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 11: you know, that's one of the toughest thing to do. 267 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 11: When at Goldman, he worked alongside some of the top 268 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 11: bankers at the time, including Pablo Solami, who is now 269 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 11: the co chief investment officer at another giant multistrat a citadel. 270 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 11: In terms of him and his contact with wesneya like, 271 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 11: they both know each other since the late nineteen nineties. 272 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 11: So this joint venture, this partnership goes long way back. 273 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 11: You know, they walk together at Goldman then try they 274 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 11: tried to set up a private equity firm initially before 275 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 11: reuniting at Isler Capital in twenty eighteen. 276 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: And so how has Isisler Capital actually performed compared to 277 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: its rivals and then what went wrong? 278 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 8: They shan't so performance wise. 279 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 11: The previous two years were descent. In twenty twenty two 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 11: they made fourteen percent, twenty three they were up nine percent. 281 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 11: This year has been really tough. They are losing money 282 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 11: so far as of September, and that compares with most 283 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 11: of their bigger rivals nearly making double digit returns. So 284 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 11: by comparison, you know, they are not doing well this year. 285 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 11: And in terms of what went wrong. Look, I mean 286 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 11: this is a very very tough industry. They are a 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 11: new player in the market. It's incredibly tough to break 288 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 11: into the multistrat world. They find themselves trying to grow 289 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 11: amid a brutal and expensive war for talent. I mean, 290 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 11: multistrats are all about the kind of people you can hire, 291 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 11: the traders who can make money for you all the time, 292 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 11: persistently without losing. As an expert says in our story, 293 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 11: it's like building a Goldman's Ax from scratch. You need 294 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 11: a dozen highly played paid teams, world class infrastructure, in 295 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 11: a NASA caliber risk management. 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