1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: to the heart of the issues that mattered to you. Today, 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about the FBI. Former FBI Special Agent Nicole Parker. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: She walked away from the job that she loved because 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the bureau she had sworn to serve had started hunting 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: patriots instead of predators. Her new book, The Two Fbis, 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: names the day it all went wrong and the raid 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: that killed her best friend while SWAT teams were terrorizing 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: January sixth, Grandma's Today, Zero Filter, Comy's betrayal, the Catholic Memo, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: and what Cash Betel must do to change the FBI 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: going forward. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for Nicole Parker. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 3: Nicole, it's great to have you on. 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: The show, my friend. I'm so proud and excited for you. 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: With the launch of your new book, The Two Fbis. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Have you gotten pushback from the FBI and writing the 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: book or what's that been like. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you that I started writing the 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: book under the Biden administry, and so I was a 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: bit nervous because the FBI does have to approve the book, 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: and I know that there have been other agents that 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: have written books under the Biden administration that were not 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: exactly positive regarding the FBI, and there was a lot 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: of pushback for them. Thankfully, under the Trump administration, who 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: can acknowledge the mistakes of the FBI, the process from 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: headquarters has been seamless. I have been very grateful and 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: blessed for that. As far as agents, FBI one and 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: FBI two are completely two different fbis, and that's what 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: the premise of the book is about. SOBI one I 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: would consider the good agents doing hard work upholding their 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: constitutional oath in a fair and unbiased manner, and FBI 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: two is the political and social weaponization of the FBI. 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: That's what you're seeing in the Arctic frost revelations coming out. 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: So I can tell you FBI one agents and staff 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: are celebrating this book because I'm sharing things that they 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: all agree with. We all know is happening. But while 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: you're at the FBI, you can't speak up. You can't 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: say a word. A FBI two. On the other hand, 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't have a lot of friends 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: that are from FBI two, so I haven't heard much 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: pushback from them, but I'm sure that there will be 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: pushback from FBI two, because I'm basically calling them out 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: in a very direct manner. 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: You know, you had mentioned artic frost. What do we 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: know so far and what did your gut tell you 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: that happened and why it happened. 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: I believe the Arctic frost is really the tip of 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: the iceberg. Nothing that's coming out is shocking to someone 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: who actually lived and witnessed the political weaponization of the FBI. 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: I know that's really sad to say. It's shameful, it's disgraceful, 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: it's despicable and disgusting, but it's not shocking, and that's 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: exactly what drove me out of the agency. So what 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: you're seeing is that exactly what I talk about in 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: my book is exactly what was happening. The FBI was 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: going full force, putting the full force of the federal government, 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: conducting investigations and looking into individuals merely because of where 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: they stood on the political spectrum. And we're seeing that 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: they were getting toll records for senators that's entirely inappropriate. 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: What's the probable cause to believe that they committed the 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: crime to even have the right to get those subpoenas 61 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: in the first place, And the fact that they worked 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: with Jack Smith and his team. It started out of 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: the WFO field office, and it just it's destructive and 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: what they did was wrong, and it's blatantly on the 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: American stage. Now everyone's seeing what we were seeing internally 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: for years and under the Biden administration, it was so brazen, Lisa, 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: like they had no shame in it. It got to 68 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: the point where they weren't even trying to hide what 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: they were doing. But what they did was they really 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: looked at something like the election, the twenty twenty election, 71 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: and tried to think of who could possibly who could 72 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: we go after and attack in the and that's what 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: they did. I mean, look, they went after Turning Point, 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean really turning Point, Lisa. I wouldn't be shocked 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: if they were looking into my personal records after I 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: left the FBI and went onto Fox News. I mean, 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: that's how disturbing it really is. And that is abuse 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: of your law enforcement power to push your political agendas. 79 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: And I pray that under this administration there's full accountability 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: for those that were abusing their power. That is wrong 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: and that is the epitome of FBI two. What Americans 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: are seeing now is what we were seeing internally, but 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: again we could never discuss it publicly. 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, and obviously when you signed up for the FBI, 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: you thought you were signing up for FBI one. You know, 86 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you were on Royal Street when nine to eleven happened 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: in front of you. What did you see that morning 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: and when did you decide to leave finance to join 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: the FBI. 90 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: The morning of September eleventh, two thousand and one, I 91 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: was barely twenty three years old. I was working for 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: Merrill Lynch down at the World Financial Center. Every morning, 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: I would commute and go through the World Trade Center 94 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: to the Courtland Street station on the Red Line, and 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: I would literally get out of the subway, go through 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: the underground mall, through one World Trade Center, and I 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: would take the escalator up and cross over the footbridge 98 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: into the World Financial Center. I was there when it happened. 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: I had arrived at my desk about seven forty five 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: that morning, and I saw the entire thing on a 101 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: fold before my eyes. It was absolutely horrific, evil and terrifying. 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: I don't talk about it a lot, but I do 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: mention it in my book because that was a moment. 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: It was actually when I was leaving my building after 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: the second plane hit the South Power There was a 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: moment when I was in the elevator getting out of 107 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: my building and escaping and wondering if my building was 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: going to get hit next. I mean, we had no 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: idea what was going on, and there was a moment 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: that I just had this epiphany and I thought, you 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: know what, if I get out of this, I am 112 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: going to one day go back and serve my country, 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: and I want to serve others. I ended up staying 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: on Wall Street and working in finance. I stayed in 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: New York for a number of years, and I went 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: and worked for a hedge fund in Beverly Hills. But 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: I just knew that there was something that I there 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: was that calling and that oath that I had made 119 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: to myself in that elevator that morning. I needed to 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: make good on my promise to myself. And it was 121 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: actually someone from Wall Street and they said, you know, 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: maybe you should apply to the FBI. And so that 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: was around two thousand and nine, and I literally just 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: went to FBI dot gov and I just started filling 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: out the application to be a special agent. And that's 126 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: how it started. And I started the application process in November. 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: By July, I was given an academy date and I 128 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: was off to Quantico August first of twenty ten. 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: And what's that like the process of becoming an FBI agent. 130 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: It's intense. It's well, I can tell you that the 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: FBI won back in the day. It was intense, Okay, 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: when I joined. 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: It was. 134 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: Multiple phases of testing, which I talk about in my book, because, 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: believe it or not, that's probably one of the number 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: one questions I get. What was the application process? Like 137 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: what led you to the FBI? So I speak about that. 138 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: But there were multiple phases of testing, which I detail 139 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: in the book. Phase one, you know, it's kind of 140 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: like at the time, it was a multiple choice literally 141 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: on a scantron, like what we did in high school. 142 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: And then after that, if you get through that phase 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: and you go into phase two, which is a live 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: panel where you're questioned by a panel of three FBI agents, 145 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: and then there's an additional writing sample investigation that you 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: have to do, and then after that you have to 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: do physical fitness testing, mental testing. There's you know, there's 148 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: just various layers to it. It's very intense. In the 149 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: background checks. They're intense, and they need to be intense 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: because they need to know who you are before signing 151 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: you up to work for the federal government and giving 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: you a top secret security clearance. Additionally, there's a polygraph 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: and I detail that because that polygraph is no joke. 154 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: So it's a very intense background check. You know, they 155 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: talk to everyone that you've basically ever met since you 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: were a baby. What it's felt like. I mean, they're 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: calling neighbors, friends of neighbors, friends, friends of friends, just 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: making sure that everything is checked and that there's no 159 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: skeletons in your closet that they should be concerned about. 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: That's how it was back then. And then I talk 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: about how it changed drastically. In order for the FBI 162 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: to fill certain diversity quotas, it seemed that they were 163 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: dropping the hiring standards. And that's not good because when 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: you're putting the safety of Americans on the line, you 165 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: need to have the most qualified individuals doing that job, 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: regardless of their race, gender, you know, and any of 167 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: those items that the FBI started using, it really it 168 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: really hurt the hiring process of the FBI. And frankly, 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: what that does is it actually hurts minorities more than anybody, because, 170 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: as a female agent, Lisa, I was constantly having to 171 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: prove I'm not a token female at the FBI. I'm 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: here because I'm qualified, and so what they think they're 173 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: doing and welcoming and including everyone, look, I believe including 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: everyone that's qualified. I don't really care what you look 175 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: like or where you're from. If you're qualified, you should 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: get the job. But they changed it so drastically, and 177 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: they dropped the hiring standards to the point where you 178 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: would look at someone who is a minority and you 179 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: wondered if they were there, and that upsets minorities who 180 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: are qualified more than anybody. And being a woman, I 181 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: detail a lot how I was there because I belonged there, 182 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: but I was constantly having to prove that my spot 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: here at the FBI is fully justified. 184 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: You know. So you look at that twenty sixteen James 185 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Comey's Hillary Clinton press conference, Is that the moment that 186 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the FBI became too political? 187 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: Or what do you think the turning point? And when 188 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: did it become FBI two? 189 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: So you know, some will say, you know, it's always 190 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: been FBI too since Hoover. You know, but I'm talking 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: from my experience at the FBI. I don't agree with 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: that statement. I think the FBI it does amazing and 193 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: solid work. But for I joined in twenty ten, and 194 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: the defining moment when I realized and saw FBI two 195 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: was July fifth, twenty sixteen, when James Comy held that 196 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: press conference in front of the American people and he 197 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: said that no reasonable prosecutor would charge Hillary Clinton basically 198 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: for the mishandling of classified materials. That was stunning to us. 199 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: It was kind of like the nine to eleven moment 200 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: for the FBI. We all remember where we were, what 201 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: we were doing. I remember I was in my boss's 202 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: office with other agents and we were livid because he 203 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: basically laid out and read an indictment on Hillary Clinton 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: and then at the end basically said, but no one's 205 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: going to charge this. And it showed us Number one, 206 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: we are a political pond. Now certain rules only applied 207 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: to certain people. And there was this pattern that started 208 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: then that if you were on the democratic, liberal or 209 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: progressive side of the spectrum, you basically got a pass 210 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: from the FBI. And on the flip side. Right after that, 211 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: they pivot from the Hillary Clint investigation. And again, this 212 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: is all coming out in Arctic frost. And I know 213 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: people that have looked at this investigation. I know people 214 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: that were on the Hillary Clinton investigation. This is a fact. 215 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: They literally had enough to potentially charge her, and they 216 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: were told, don't look there, we need to pivot right 217 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: now to this Russia collusion thing. And we believe that 218 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: members of Trump's campaign, you know, are you know, working 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: for Russia. That genuinely, truly literally happened. There was no exaggeration. 220 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: And so that's when I saw the political weaponization on 221 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: a grand, grand scale. It was it was disgusting, It's wrong, 222 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: and sadly no one ever stopped it. 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Got to take a quick commercial break more than Nicole 224 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: on the other side, how much sway does a president 225 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: have in this, because I know the FBI is supposed 226 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: to be independent. Be look under former President Obama and 227 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: obviously there's been a lot of revelations about his role 228 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: in Russia Gate and the Russia hoax against President Trump 229 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: and the weaponization of the government against him. And then 230 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: we look at the Biden administration as well, and you know, 231 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: you look at a swat team going to in an 232 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: unprecedented way going to mar A Lago, Uh, going after 233 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, President Trump or you know you look at 234 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the SWAT teams being sent out for January sixth misdemeanor arrests. 235 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: How much of that was influenced by you know, President 236 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Trump and President by Art, sorry, President Obama and now 237 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: President of Biden. 238 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so let me tell you how it should be. 239 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: It should be independent. Of course, sadly it was not. 240 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: It absolutely was not. And I can tell you that 241 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: under for instance, it's an example you've made. You just 242 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: named several, but I'll just hit on one. For instance, 243 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: January sixth, that was basically the Biden administration going after 244 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: their political opponents and people that they wanted to attack. 245 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: If you were Trump or a Trump supporter, you were 246 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: there at the Capitol. I mean, Lisa, we're talking about 247 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: grandma's that walked inside the Capitol with their cell phone 248 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: and took a picture and they get the full force 249 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: of the federal government on them with a swap visit. Okay, 250 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: that's disgusting. That's an abuse of power. On the flip side, 251 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,359 Speaker 3: during the same timeframe, my best friend, Special Agent Laura Schwarzenberger, 252 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: was executing a search warrant for one of the most 253 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: violent offenders in the country, child pedophiles. There was no 254 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: swap for her. Okay, so the FBI nationwide was like, 255 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: make sure, no matter what, if it's January sixth, we're 256 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: going to put swat on them. That is wrong. That 257 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: was political intimidation. That was to scare people and say, look, 258 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: if you mess with us or you do this, we're 259 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: going to come after you. And that may also make 260 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: an important point. The FBI has never been in the 261 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: business of charging misdemeanors. Okay, there are very few agents, 262 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: We have very few resources. I mean, if you think 263 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: about it, only thirteen thousand agents in the entire world. 264 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: We don't have time to be focusing on this demeanors. 265 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: The FBI should be focusing on the most complex and 266 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: important cases affecting Americans. But what the Biden administration did 267 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: was they made January sixth look like it was a 268 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: huge domestic terrorism threat. It was operated out of WFO, 269 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: the Washington Field Office and headquarters, and they basically pushed 270 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: multiple cases to all these different field offices where there 271 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: were even attendees that went to January sixth. We're talking 272 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: non violent offenders and so they made it look like 273 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: it was this huge national problem, when in reality, it 274 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: was one isolated day where there were certain individuals. I 275 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: agree they should have been charged to the fullest extent 276 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: of the law. I have no tolerance for violence, but 277 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: the vast majority were not violent. They were misdemeanors. But 278 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: the Biden administration and Merrick Garland said we're going full throttle. 279 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: You don't even want to know. It was disgusting. On 280 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: the one year anniversary, Merrick Garland, and again this is 281 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: an internal town hall. He gets on this town hall 282 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: with all DJ employees, which includes the FBI, touting, you know, 283 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: we are doing such a phenomenal job on January sixth. 284 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: This is the largest ever investigation in DJ history. As 285 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: a witness to the nine eleven terrorist attacks, that's insulting. 286 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: So you're telling me that January sixth was more dangerous 287 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: and detrimental to our country than nine to eleven. I mean, 288 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: that's literally how they viewed it. It was despicable, it was disgusting. 289 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: And even in the FBI Miami Field office where I worked, 290 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: upper level management would literally be going around to the 291 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: different squads. You know, we got to keep pushing January sixth. 292 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: We got to keep going, We got to go full throttle. 293 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: It was literal, like, this was no exaggeration. This was happening. 294 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: And there were individuals I heard with my own ears 295 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: saying I would love to go after those Trump supporters. 296 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: Put me on it. It's disgusting. And then they were 297 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: sending agents up to the Washington Field office for what 298 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: we call these td wys. Do you know how much 299 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: money that costs the taxpayers millions? We're talking hundreds of 300 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,479 Speaker 3: millions of dollars that they spent on this for nonsense. 301 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't a truth rught to America. But that is 302 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: an example of what this administration in FBI two did. 303 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: And the sad part is so many agents from FBI 304 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: two willingly went along, and you're seeing it in Arctic 305 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: frost as well. Willingly went along. They embraced this opportunity, 306 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: they relished in the opportunity. And yeah, FBI one agents 307 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: like myself and my best friend who was killed, and 308 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: it's very powerful. It's in the book. We made a 309 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: vow to each other the day before she was killed. 310 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: She's like, I will never do a politically motivated investigation, 311 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: even if the FBI asked me to I will not 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: do it, and if they want to fire me, they can. 313 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: If they're going to take me down, they can take 314 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: me down for my morals because I will not do it. 315 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: And I said, I'm not going to do it either. 316 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: And so there were FBI one agents holding the line 317 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: and saying, no, I'm not going to do that. But 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: yet the FBI two, they gladly went after Trump Trump 319 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: supporters and all of it's going to come out. 320 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: You don't and I know that, you know, the youth 321 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: of SWAT teams to go after our January sixth misdemean 322 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: arrests and that kind of abuse. The frustration with that 323 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: is underscored by you know, you mentioned your best friend 324 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Laura Schwarzenberger and Daniel Alfin were killed while executing a 325 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: child predator warrant with no SWAT support. 326 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: That's disgusting. And you know what, the FBI, they didn't 327 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: even address it after it happened, Lisa, it was as 328 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: if it never occurred. You know, we had this memorial service. 329 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: The FBI wouldn't even pay for their memorial services. They 330 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't even pay for that. But you're willing to spend 331 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: millions of dollars on January sixth, But you're not going 332 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: to pay for the memorial services of two agents doing 333 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: the noblest work in the FBI. In my opinion, FECAC, 334 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: we call it violent crimes against children. That is God's work. 335 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: You're protecting the most vulnerable and they could even be bothered. 336 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: They didn't even tell us what happened. Lisa. I went 337 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: to my management in FBI Miami. I said, when are 338 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: we going to get an after action review? Is what 339 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: we can I want an after action review. I want 340 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: to understand what happened to my friend that morning, Why 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: did this happen? What were the mistakes? Do you know what? 342 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: They told me. We're not prepared to hear about it yet, 343 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: so we're not going to talk about it. Excuse me. 344 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: We have two dead agents, three others that were shot, 345 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: and we're not going to talk about it. But yet 346 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: every day I get fifty emails about diversity in my inbox. 347 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Please let's start focusing on the real work at the FBI. 348 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 3: I didn't come here to be a social justice warrior. 349 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: I want to know what happened. They shoved it under 350 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: the rug. Christopher Ray never held an after action review 351 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: for the FBI in my time there, and it just 352 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 3: was one thing after another. The last chapter in my book, 353 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: I literally had to do a table of contents within 354 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: the chapter because it was so many things, and they 355 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: just drove me out of the agency FBI two in 356 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 3: full force. It got to the point I didn't even 357 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: recognize the FBI. I'd walk into the office and you 358 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: felt like you were in a twilight zone. And I 359 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: make a joke in the book, it's actually not funny, 360 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: but we weren't shot. Were like, we wouldn't be shocked 361 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: if the FBI had our voter role records and knew 362 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: even what agents voted for President Trump. They weren't just 363 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: going after people outside of the FBI internally. We felt 364 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: like we were targeted if we were conservatives inside the 365 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: agency as well. 366 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: What percentage of the FBI is liberal? And how much 367 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: do FBI agents were sort of their politics on their sleeve. 368 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: So I shouldn't even know what percentage. I don't know 369 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: if that's the best question to ask, because I don't, 370 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's a good question to ask. I don't 371 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: know that I have the best answer. I can only 372 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 3: break it down in my opinion from FBI one FBI two, 373 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: and again that's not necessarily based on party lines. It's 374 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: just based on do uphold the law in a fair 375 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: and unbiased manner or do you not. And I've talked 376 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: to a lot of agents, and we think originally, starting 377 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: when we started seeing FBI two creep in, we would 378 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: probably say it was like thirty percent FBI two seventy percent. 379 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: By the time I left, agents literally were like, we 380 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: think it's flip floped, like it's probably more like fifty 381 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: to fifty or sixty FBI two forty FBI one. And 382 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: even now I'm in touch with agents and they're they're 383 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: a little surprised to hear how many people are just 384 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: so upset by what's happening under the Trump administration. I 385 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: mean FBI too. They're losing their minds. What the Trump 386 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: administration is doing is they're equally upholding and enforcing the law, 387 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: and that is what they should have been doing all along. 388 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: And so all these individuals in the media that are 389 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: coming out and saying, oh, you know, Trump's this is 390 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: political retribution. He's just going after comy and all these 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: people not political retribution. They're just not accustomed to equal 392 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: enforcement of the law. Jim Comey should have been looked 393 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: at years ago, but he had the protective cover of 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: the DOJ buddies of his and all of these other 395 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: individuals that the statue of limitation for a lot of 396 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: the charges that could have potentially come has expired. But 397 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: there does need to be accountability, Lisa, because if there's 398 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: no tangible consequences, the cycle continues. 399 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: You know, when you look at. 400 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Some things that happen under the Biden administration, mark how 401 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: agents reading his home with rifles, this pro life Catholic father, 402 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: or you look at the Catholic memo targeting you know, 403 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: traditional Catholics, it would seem like there's some sort of 404 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: like anti Catholic or anti religious bias within the FBI. 405 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: You know, that's a really good point because and I 406 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: talk about at the beginning of my book that actually 407 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: used to be embraced. Look, the FBI doesn't you know, 408 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: talk about and encouraged religion even back in the day. Okay, 409 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: like separation of church and state. I respect that, but 410 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: the types of morals that a lot of Christian's religious people, 411 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: you know, Jews, whatever your religious persuasion may be, or 412 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: your spiritual persuasion that used to be embraced by the FBI. Okay, 413 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: they want people of high moral standards, things of that sort, 414 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: and so they it seemed like they were definitely shunning 415 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: that again at the end, and again the COVID vaccine. 416 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: You name some of the important elements that would indicate 417 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: that they were not exactly pro religion. The COVID vaccine. 418 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: For a lot of people, they had closely held religious 419 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: beliefs and they were submitting to be exempted from the 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: COVID vaccine, and a lot of those people got targeted. 421 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: I personally, I never got the COVID vaccine. I have 422 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 3: never even drank alcohol in my entire life. You think 423 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to put this unapproved vaccine into my system 424 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: when I'm perfectly healthy. By the way, I never got COVID. 425 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: I never had an issue. I never got sick once. 426 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: So I'm very blessed by that. But they used, for instance, 427 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: the COVID vaccine and people that had closely held religious 428 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: beliefs to go after them and attack it and retaliated 429 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: against them. And so you name the Mark HAWQX situation, 430 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: the Catholic memo, and so it seemed that the FBI 431 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: was all about diversity and embracing everyone. No, it was 432 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: only if you are embracing liberal and progressive movements under 433 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: the bidens. They had no problem embracing that. And again 434 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: I respect everyone, do what you want, but there's no 435 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: place for that in the office. Just come and do 436 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: your job. The other thing that really was a personal 437 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: level of disturbance for me. We've talked about my friend Laura. 438 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: She was a very devout Catholic. They came to me 439 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: after she was killed, our Office of Public Affairs from 440 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: headquarters and said, you know, we understand that y'all are 441 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: very close. Would you mind doing an interview with us 442 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: and giving some information about her. I did, and one 443 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: of the key elements in her life and focal points 444 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: of her life was that she was a devout Catholic. 445 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: I shared that with them, and I said it was 446 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: her Catholic faith that allowed her to overcome the darkness 447 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 3: that she was involved in while doing these most difficult 448 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: crimes to investigate, you know, hurting children, crimes against children, 449 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: child trafficking. I got a draft of what they intended 450 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: to publish. They took out the entire section about her 451 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: being a devout Catholic. I was livid because that's who 452 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: she is and essence, they were trying to cancel her 453 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: faith in her death. And I went back to the 454 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: guy from Public Affairs and I'd made a decision, and 455 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: I said, if you don't put that back in, I 456 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: don't want my name in your article. I don't want 457 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: anything that I gave you included in the article. Basically, 458 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: you put that back in, or I want no participation 459 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: in your article. And he came back, and I'll never forget. 460 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: He's like, I really appreciate your candor. That's an FBI 461 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: word that we use, candor, And I thought, you don't 462 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: appreciate my candor at all, And I really don't care. 463 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: But we're not going to cancel my friend and her 464 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: religious faith in her death. You're going to put it 465 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: in there. Thankfully he did put it back in there. 466 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: But that's the kind of stuff that we were dealing 467 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: with on a daily basis there. But yet, if you're 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: a progressive liberal and you have all these other things, 469 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: they were all about diversity and inclusion, that it was 470 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: only if it fit their narrative. They weren't inclusive of 471 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: people of faith. No, at the end, they definitely were 472 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: not quick break. 473 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: If you like what you're hearing, please here and social 474 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: media or send it to your family and friends. How 475 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: many times are field offices and field agents at odds 476 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: with leadership? You look at something like the Hunter Biden laptop. 477 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, I assume most people in like field offices 478 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: and and you know, non leaders in the or not, 479 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, not people in sort of like the you know, 480 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: like comy type position. The FBI agent or director uh 481 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: would know that like it wasn't or that it was 482 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: real and it. 483 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't Russian disinformation? 484 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 1: Like how many times do agents find themselves at odds 485 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: with leadership? 486 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: Okay again, I think it's really when is that FBI 487 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: wanted odds with FBI two leadership? That's look FBI one 488 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: at the end, it was it was quite often fb 489 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: I one and FBI two really were at odds with 490 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: each other a lot. The right up mar A Lago 491 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: is a perfect example. FBI two again, headquarters and WFO 492 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: that was their idea and we're seeing it all in 493 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: arctic frost. Okay, that was coming from the top. They 494 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: were forcing it and pushing it down to the field 495 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: office in Miami, because that's where President Trump reside is 496 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: in West Palm Beach, which is in the West Palm 497 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: Beach ra of the FBI Miami Division. There were a 498 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: FBI one agents on the ground level that we're told, okay, 499 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: we're going to need your help. We've got these agents 500 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: coming down from DC and FBI one agents are like, look, 501 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 3: I want no part of that. Like, I'm not going 502 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: I want no part of it. I know for a 503 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: fact that the Deputy director at the time, even I 504 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: have to give credit, even the head of the WFO 505 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: filled office told him, and it's in the book, I 506 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: don't think this is a good idea for us to 507 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: do this rate. It's not going to be a good look. 508 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: We've already taken so much backlash. This is not good. 509 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: The deputy director and the legal folks at the top 510 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: of the FBI were like, we're trumping you and we're 511 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: going to do it. We're and and said no, we 512 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: are doing this. So there was a lot of being 513 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: at odds. When I left, I would say there was 514 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: a lot of friction between FBI two leadership and FBI 515 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 3: one on the ground level. And I can't say that 516 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: all leadership in the FBI is FBI two. But I 517 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: would say the majority is because these are people that 518 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: are so they're more concerned about moving up the ladder 519 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: at the bureau than they are about doing the writing 520 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: for them American people. That's the part to me of 521 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: FBI two management ego, self serving, arrogance. But yeah, I 522 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: would say there was a lot of moments where they 523 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: were at odds. 524 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, how do you think FBI Director Cash Betel 525 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: was doing so far? 526 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: Has Has he made enough changes within the FBI? 527 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: I have to say that he has a thankless job. 528 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 3: It's a difficult job. I don't envy him because he 529 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: walked into an absolute disaster zone. I know he's working 530 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: tirelessly day and night. He part of the thing is 531 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: when you come into the agency and you haven't been 532 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: at the agency before first shift, to just learn the 533 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: dynamic of the agency, that takes time to get up 534 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: to speed. He needs to know who he can trust. 535 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: What I think he's doing now and has been doing, 536 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: I think a phenomenal job at is learning who is 537 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: FBI one and who is FBI two and a lot 538 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: of FBI too. It's coming to light with these investigations 539 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: with Arctic frost he's seeing the squad that he had 540 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: to dismantle out of WFO, seeing that they were the 541 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: problem squad that initiated a lot of this. He's identifying 542 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 3: where a lot of these problems are. He's got a 543 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: very difficult task on his plate because he has to 544 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: obliterate FBI two while simultaneously build up the morale of 545 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: FBI one that has been lacking for years because FBI 546 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 3: one completely felt bulldozed and forgotten under the last administration. 547 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: So it's a very fine balancing act. You got to 548 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: take down FBI two while you build up FBI one. 549 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: You hear him all the time, Let good cops be 550 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: good cops, and I have to say, I mean, I've 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: had to conversations with him. He's very open minded. He listens, 552 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: and I know there's a lot of criticism from people 553 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: that are like, you know, why haven't we seen this, 554 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: why haven't we seen that? But I can tell you 555 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: that behind the scenes, there's a lot of movement going on. 556 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: And legally, it's I talk about this in the book, 557 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: FBI two pretty much knew that they were untouchable because 558 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: legally it's hard to fire someone from the federal government. 559 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: It really is. And so that's a shame because whether 560 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: you're a corrupt person at the FBI or you're a 561 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: lazy FBI too includes all the lazy agents and staff 562 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: as well. A lot of times they know they're untouchable, 563 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: so they're like, look, I can do whatever I want. 564 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get fired. And so now it's 565 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: a new sheriff in town is like, actually, there is 566 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: going to be accountability. And many people at the FBI 567 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: aren't accustomed to that. So FBI too, they're losing their 568 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: minds under cash Betel And I know it's going to 569 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: take time. It takes time. We need to be patient. 570 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: But I think he's moving pretty quickly with everything that 571 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: he's been given. And again, if the government, things tend 572 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: to move very slow. Not under the Trump administration. Trump's 573 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: go on full speed, full throttle. And if you're any 574 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: part of his administration, you better be ready to run 575 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: because that's how they roll. And I have to say, 576 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: I think he's doing a great job with what he's 577 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: been given, but it is going to take time. 578 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that the FABI, under a cash hotel 579 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: that they have gotten back to prioritizing core missions. 580 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: I do think that they have certainly gotten back to 581 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: a lot of things that they should have been doing 582 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: A long time ago. The FBI was doing these amazing 583 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: things and they went off the rails. So I'll give 584 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: you an example. All of the January sixth resources were 585 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 3: immediately cut done. That is now over the four year 586 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: investigation of January sixth. He redistributed that to doing foreign 587 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: terist organization. I'm sure that you just heard about the 588 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: Halloween foil plot that was stopped. Those are the types 589 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: of things we want to see our FBI doing. And 590 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: with Biden having had the open border for four years, 591 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: you have no idea how many terrorists could be lingering 592 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: in our country because they were just allowed to freely 593 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: walk in. So I appreciate and respect that he is 594 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: focusing back on foreign terrorists organization groups with a vengeance. 595 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: That's amazing. The violent crime focus, it does matter. Americans 596 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: want to feel safe in their individual cities, and they 597 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: are obliterating violent crime and many of these cities they're 598 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: sending task force officers or task forces in doing a 599 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: lot of good work the violent crimes against children. I'm 600 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: getting a lot of positive feedback from my friends who 601 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: worked that viol so they're getting back to, I believe, 602 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: what the core mission of the FBI should be. They've 603 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: taken out DEI completely. I talk about that in my 604 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: book a lot because it became a focus. So I 605 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: have to say, I do think that he is getting 606 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: back to what the FBI should be doing. And again, 607 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: we've got to be patient. It takes time. I know 608 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, at the beginning, there's 609 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: a lot of immigration movement and people helping with immigration, 610 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 3: and they still continue to help with the you know, 611 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: immigration issue that has been mandated by the American people 612 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: by electing President Trump. But I think also he's saying, look, 613 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: we can't do every you know, we've got to put 614 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: our resources where the FBI works best, cyber intrusions, the 615 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: Chinese threat. I think he really is trying to focus 616 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: at least of the FBI's responsibilities. It's so wide ranging 617 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: that you can't be wasting resources on things that don't matter, 618 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: and that's what the Biden administration did, and he's getting 619 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: it back on track. I think, do you think. 620 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: The FBI and the Department of Justice should release information 621 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: relating to Jeffrey Epstein? 622 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: You know, why do you think they haven't. 623 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: That's a great question. The Epstein case started actually in 624 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: FBI Miami back under Acosta when he was the US 625 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: Attorney and I think a lot of people don't know 626 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: the background story of how some deals were cut back then. 627 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: But a lot of the information that Americans want to 628 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: see is protected by core order and it's not up 629 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: to DOJ or FBI to release those records. That's actually 630 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: up to judges, and so their hands are tied on 631 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: certain details that can be released. But I know that 632 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: they are. Look, I know Pam Bondi, and I know 633 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: that she is trying to be as transparent as possible 634 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: to give as much as she can. So you're dealing 635 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: with very delicate. It's very delicate anytime it's a violation 636 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: of that sort. The victims have all of rights, and 637 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: you've got to protect your victims at all costs. They 638 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: have those legal rights, and additionally, core orders. They can't 639 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: trump a core order when a judge says no, we're 640 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: going to keep this sealed. So I have not seen 641 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: the Epstein file, but I do know agents back in 642 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: the day that we're very familiar with it in FBI Miami, 643 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: and that was a disaster from the get go, and 644 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: that dates all the way back to you know, two 645 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: thousand and seven, like we're talking a long time ago, 646 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: and that case is, you know, Epstein's disgraceful. He was 647 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 3: a disgraceful human being, as was Maxwell. But I understand 648 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: the frustration. But yet I think that they're doing what 649 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: they can, but their hands are definitely tied in certain aspects. 650 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: You know, before we go, you know, you did resign 651 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: from the FBI. 652 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Would you tell young people to join the FBI or 653 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: sort of what like, what is your sentiment today? 654 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I actually get asked that by 655 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people. People always say, oh, could you 656 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: mind talking to my son or my daughter, you know, 657 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: they're considering applying to the FBI. I'll be blunt. And 658 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: the Biden administration, I said, don't apply, And it really does. 659 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: Now I'm learning that the administration does set the tone 660 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: for the priorities of the FBI, even though it should 661 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: be completely independent. Because I saw what the Biden administration 662 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: Obama administration did do it and completely and frankly the 663 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: Trump administration. Trump, it wasn't Trump. It was that Trump 664 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: put people into positions that he trusted and like Christopher Ray. 665 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: He was a horrible director. But President Trump trusted Chris 666 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: Christie's recommendation. I mean, why would he not write. Trump 667 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: knows who we can trust now. And that's the good 668 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: thing about the second administration is he knows exactly who 669 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: we can trust. He got screwed over in his first administration, 670 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: but he's doing a phenomenal job. I think he's put 671 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: the right people in there, and I think it is 672 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: important that good people apply to the FBI. I do 673 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: strongly recommend it, and that's why this book. If you're 674 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: looking to apply, read about FBI one, and if you're 675 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: going to apply, make a vow to yourself that you're 676 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: going to be FBI one. That's what we need. We 677 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: don't need two fbis. We need FBI one to be 678 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: FBI one to be the only fi. FBI two needs 679 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: to be completely wiped away. So yes, I would recommend 680 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: it to those that want to do good work for 681 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: the American people. Work hard. You're going to work hard. 682 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: If you're a good agent, you're gonna be working long hours. 683 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: Expect that, and be honest, have integrity, do the right 684 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: thing for the right reasons, the proper motivations, so for me, 685 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: that's what made it difficult to walk away. Lisa. It 686 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 3: wasn't easy to get in, and I worked so hard. 687 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 3: You read about the I call it the Quantico Crucible. 688 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: It was difficult for me to get through that firearms 689 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: training at Quantico. I made it through finally. It was 690 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, I passed every single time for over fifty 691 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: qualifications after that. But it was difficult to walk away 692 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: because I loved what I was doing when things were good, 693 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: it was it wasn't a job. It was like a 694 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 3: passion and it was a mission. And I really felt 695 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: like what I did mattered. So I would highly recommend it. 696 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: It's a very fulfilling job. It's difficult, but it is 697 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: worth it. 698 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: The Cole Parker, former FBI special agent and new author 699 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: of the two fbis The Bravery and Betrayal I saw 700 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: my time at the bureau. Nicle Parker, thanks for coming on, 701 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: my friend. 702 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate the honesty. 703 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, Lisa, God blessed that. 704 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: Was Nicole Parker. 705 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: Appreciate her for coming on the show. Appreciate you guys 706 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you 707 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: can listen throughout the week. Oh some want to thank 708 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. 709 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: Until next time,