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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 2: Hell for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo? And no, Dan and ty Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, my good friend. It occurred

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Speaker 1: to me just as I hit the record button that

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Speaker 1: you and I never officially agreed to what we were

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Speaker 1: gonna do this episode.

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Speaker 3: I said, TCU season debrief and you were like, what

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Speaker 3: are you even talking about? And I was like, well

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Speaker 3: think about it, and you said no, no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: So where did we land?

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Speaker 1: I hope you came prepared to talk about the CFP

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Speaker 1: National Championship Game between Miami and Indiana, because that's what

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: It is it is, it is.

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Speaker 3: We've we've previewed National Championship games each year we've done

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Speaker 3: this show. We've done it in different ways. I think

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Speaker 3: we're going to be more direct and hopefully as thorough

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Speaker 3: as our most thorough shows that we've done in previewing

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Speaker 3: these monumental games. This is the first time, I believe,

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Speaker 3: in the history of the Solid Verbal, that we're previewing

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Speaker 3: either one of these teams in this situation. Yes, we

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Speaker 3: have not previewed Miami in a national championship game with

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Speaker 3: not previe in Indiana in a national championship game situation.

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Speaker 3: We have not even not previewed either of these head

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Speaker 3: coaches in a national championship situation as head coaches. And

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Speaker 3: so this feels very new and novel and fresh and clean.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Please hit follow or subscribe if you have yet to

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Speaker 1: do so. This is not the end for us. We

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Speaker 1: of course have the recap show that we're going to

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Speaker 1: do immediately in the shadow of the National Championship game

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Speaker 1: after it goes down on Monday evening. We will of

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Speaker 1: course continue all throughout the offseason, two episodes per week.

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Speaker 1: That has been our plan of attack since God knows when,

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Speaker 1: so keep it right here. We will do our part

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Speaker 1: after the season to keep you up to speed on

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Speaker 1: everything going on in and around the world of college football.

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Speaker 1: But for the time being, yes, we have a very

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Speaker 1: big game to discuss. The other point that I would

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Speaker 1: like to make here before we dive in, we do

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Speaker 1: have Bowl Bingo going on. We've had three weeks of

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Speaker 1: Bowl bingo. It is free for everybody to play. All

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Speaker 1: you need to do is go on out to play

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Speaker 1: bowlbingo dot com. If you sign up as a free

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Speaker 1: member of our patreon, you don't got to pay. You

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Speaker 1: can if you want, but you don't have to. If

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Speaker 1: you want to play the game, all you gotta do

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Speaker 1: is pick six items from a big old list of

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Speaker 1: thirty six props that you think may go down in

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Speaker 1: this national championship game with a tiebreaker, and then close

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Speaker 1: things out give a prize to the winner. Okay, very simple,

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Speaker 1: pick six things, very straightforward. Couldn't ask for anything more simple.

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Speaker 1: People have been having a lot of fun with it

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Speaker 1: so far this season, as they did last. So Playbolebingo

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Speaker 1: to get in on the action and have a little

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Speaker 1: bit more root for on Monday night?

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Speaker 2: Agree?

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Speaker 1: Shall we dive in? Dan? I think? So let's do

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Speaker 1: it one more time this season, my good friend Dan.

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Speaker 1: Time to count any pick of the week. It is

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff National Championship Game. They are playing

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Speaker 1: it in Miami at hard Rocks Stadium. More to come

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Speaker 1: on that in just a moment. It is your number

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Speaker 1: one seed, Indiana Hoosiers at fifteen to oh An eight

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite at time of recording, squaring

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Speaker 1: off against the tenth seeded Miami Hurricanes, who come into

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Speaker 1: this one with a mark of thirteen and two. You're

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Speaker 1: over under again at time of recording forty seven and

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Speaker 1: one half points. Yes, I have some fun facts for you,

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Speaker 1: Dan Oh.

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Speaker 2: So, in thatsence you're saying I.

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Speaker 1: Got something to say, I do. Actually, I have a

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Speaker 1: couple interesting nuggets that I think you might appreciate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, Indiana has never won a national championship,

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Speaker 1: never won a national championship. They have been playing football

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Speaker 1: have three conference championships to their name in football, including

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Speaker 1: vying to become the first team ever to finish sixteen

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three. For the two thousand and two season.

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Speaker 1: They lost that game in the Fiesta Bowl, then played

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Speaker 1: The final score of that one was thirty one to

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Speaker 1: twenty four. And you know, we have talked about that

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Speaker 1: game a whole multitude of times now over the course

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Speaker 1: we'll bring it up a thousand more times. But that

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Speaker 1: was a pivotal game, a watershed game in our history

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Speaker 1: as college football fans. It meant a lot to us.

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Speaker 1: Both agree. Also, here's one for you. Miami is playing

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. Interesting different.

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza attended the same high school, Christopher Columbus High

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Speaker 1: was Fernando Mendoza's father, so there's been a connective tissue

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Speaker 1: there and last, but certainly not least Right now, this

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Speaker 1: So for context, last year between Ohio State and Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: a lot of potatoes. That is a lot of potatoes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thus far. I checked stub hub late last night. The

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Speaker 1: cheapest ticket that I could find is around thirty two hundred. Jeez,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to go down my hunches.

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Speaker 1: Even if it does, it won't dip below eighteen hundred dogs.

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Speaker 3: Did you see, by the way, did you see Connor

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Speaker 1: I did, and I didn't really understand what the subtext was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was just funny that, you know, Connor Stallions

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Speaker 1: If you were a fan of one of these teams,

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Speaker 1: and you know that the two of us have confronted

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Speaker 1: the maximum amount of US dollars that you would pay

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't pay four figures to go to a sporting event.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know that I figured as much, but how

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Speaker 3: much n ninety nine know, you know, how much would

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Speaker 3: It would also depend on place. Do I want to

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Speaker 1: That like one hundred and fifty unifour will amination with

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Speaker 1: zero title. Nailed it again, Chad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if your team has never won a national

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Speaker 3: Miami is, especially in winter time, if you're coming from

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Speaker 3: like you know, I guess twenty first century Power is

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Speaker 3: not a lie. It's just been a minute that this

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Speaker 3: i'd pay eight nine hundred dollars. But I just I

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, if you're going to this game, reach out.

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Speaker 1: Soliverbal at gmail dot com. Let us know what you

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Speaker 1: pay to get in. No no judgment here. Look if

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Speaker 1: I don't know I would have felt of doing that.

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Speaker 3: So to be clear, I have done that. I know, I.

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Speaker 1: Know it was I was expecting in that game that

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Speaker 1: So oliverble atgail dot com. We're not going to use

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm curious that that's sort of central to

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Speaker 1: THESS is that a word?

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Speaker 2: The CS?

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Speaker 1: It's very close to something else. But go ahead, f CS.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're you're allowed to say that your word.

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Speaker 3: It's not mine, it's not the what, but it's the

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Speaker 3: with whom? Right that Like, it's great going to a

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Speaker 3: I get it from your perspective, going solo to a

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Speaker 1: Question number one, do you think that both teams in

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Speaker 3: How can you look at these teams and who they've

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Speaker 3: there's no way that Miami can beat Indiana. These are

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Speaker 1: It's not difficult. I think it's a little bit of

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Speaker 3: A Miami blowout? Miami winning this game thirty eight thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I have a Miami blowout as well.

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Speaker 3: I just look, that's not the way that they've won

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Speaker 2: Which is fine, you just want to win.

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Speaker 3: But that would be the that would essentially, to me,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the only way this goes

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Speaker 1: Funniest outcome not shocking, I mean, maybe shocking because it's funny, but.

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Speaker 3: The darkest possible humor outcome of this game would be

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Speaker 1: And I would say say, as an addendum, not because

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Speaker 3: The Honestly, to my one b in terms of the

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Speaker 1: But where did Kurt Signetti come from?

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Speaker 3: How does he do it? How does he know who

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Speaker 1: Right? That?

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Speaker 3: Is this the new model? How did nobody else see

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Speaker 3: That you know he is he is being treated like

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Speaker 2: One of us?

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Speaker 1: I don't know around here talking like Signette should take

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Why why even coach this game when you

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a certain level of that as well.

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Speaker 3: It's all pain for me, to be clear, as an

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Speaker 1: See, if I'm an Oregon fan, though I'm rooting for Indiana.

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Speaker 1: You can't root for Crystal Ball because he left you

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Speaker 1: if you're going to lose to anybody. Literally the only

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Speaker 3: And look when you look at like who Danning has

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Speaker 3: Uh you know it's Washington who's in the National Championship

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Speaker 1: I just want to watch great football, all right, I

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Speaker 3: What worries me the most for Indiana is much more

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Speaker 3: it's one A National championship stage is even bigger than

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Speaker 3: So that would be all worry that Miami is in

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Speaker 2: Gods, worry what about you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think all of those are really

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about Miami having to play from behind in

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Speaker 1: one where they play bullyball like we've seen them play

439
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: in the playoff. It's been very effective for them over

440
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: the course of the last few games. But that is

441
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: not to say that falling behind by a touchdown or

442
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: even ten points is the end of the world. But

443
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: if they get down like fourteen to seventeen points, let's

444
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: say early in the third quarter, and suddenly they've got

445
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,719
Speaker 1: to air it out, they can't lead on that ground attack.

446
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: Indiana can do what it does really well, which is

447
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: the sky's coverages and find ways to bring pressure against

448
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: cars and back. That situation, to me seems like it

449
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: would be a really bad deal for Miami. So them

450
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: playing from behind again not necessarily a blowout, but playing

451
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: two three scores behind, I think is a is a

452
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: real problem for the Keynes.

453
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah.

454
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: It's what Indiana does so well is they dictate the

455
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: terms of the fight, and so it's also what Miami

456
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: does very very well that they dictate that this is

457
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: going to be a slog that this is going to

458
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: be a rock fight that they're going to get. You know,

459
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: when you think that they're just going to keep going

460
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: for three and four yards, they figure out something creative

461
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: to do with Malachai Toni or something. So, yes, Indiana

462
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: succeeding in determining the terms of this, whether it's forcing

463
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: Miami to throw a lot more than they'd like and

464
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: maybe I think if you're Miami, it's which version of

465
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: Miami discipline do we get here? And so the fear

466
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: if you're Miami, it's not just that like you're behind

467
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: and you have the throw and you have to you know,

468
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: run tempo, which they don't do. They're a very like,

469
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: not slow, but deliberate team in the way that they

470
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: manage their offense. It's playing behind the sticks too often,

471
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 3: right that they get a nice Mark Fletcher five yard

472
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: run on first down and then a false start, then

473
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: a personal foul or something like that. We saw the

474
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: penalties almost compound against Ole Miss late in that game,

475
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: and again once again we talked about, you know, the

476
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: idea that Miami had a moment where it seemed like

477
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: they were unraveling. So if Miami is taking itself out

478
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: of position too often and surrendering drives in a game, which,

479
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: by the way, both of these teams are quite deliberate

480
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: in terms of tempo. So if I'm Miami and I

481
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: absolutely waste a seven minute drive at some point, especially

482
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: in the first half, that it's seven minutes, you know,

483
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: the Canes are churning and they're getting first downs and

484
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 3: then a penalty. Fully takes them out of that drive

485
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: and it ends with a miss field goal or a

486
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: punt or something like that. Just the math with how

487
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: they like to play does not add up because the

488
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: drives are going to be limited in this one. So

489
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: I'd be terrified if Miami mounts a long drive that

490
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: nets them nothing at some point in the first half,

491
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: because wasting that much time without points, especially six is

492
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: can be quite brutal for how Miami likes to.

493
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Play, which is just wearing teams down over the course

494
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: of four quarters. Final two questions. Okay, yeah, what would

495
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: it mean if Miami wins this game?

496
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: If Miami wins this game, it is one hundred percent

497
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: proof of concept of Mario Cristobal's decision and excellence and

498
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 3: vision for this Miami program. You get the really like

499
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: heartwarming narrative of his homecoming playing for Miami coming back home.

500
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Winning this game can tell every single little weenie like

501
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: myself who doubted this move to shove it and it's

502
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: it's nothing but incredible vibes from Miami.

503
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: Uh.

504
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: Moving forward now with that, now becomes the expectations of Miami,

505
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: which have always been get back to previous versions of Miami,

506
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: which Mario Christobal has been very, very careful to sort

507
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: of turn away from saying like we have no interest

508
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: in going back. Our eyes are only on the future,

509
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: which I think is a very savvy way to very

510
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: Mark maguire, you're talking about that past.

511
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: We want to talk about the future.

512
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: But like it's an impossible ask to say, like get

513
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 3: the get the you back to where they were at

514
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: in the early nineties or early two thousands, because it

515
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: just we don't exist in that universe. So Mario Christball

516
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: very smartly says like that's it's an impossible ask, and

517
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: it's an impossible journey to get to that point once again,

518
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: just because it's twenty twenty six, and like you're not

519
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: living in reality if you want that. But if the if,

520
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: the idea and the expectation from Miami fans is national relevance,

521
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: always be competing for national championships, and then you win

522
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: a national championship, then Mario Cristobal's seat not doesn't become hotter,

523
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: but the throne becomes more diamond studded. And with that,

524
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: you're now asking him, Okay, you need to compete for

525
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 3: national championships every season, and you better give us a

526
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: good reason why we're not this year if we're not

527
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: right that now the expectations are so much hotter for

528
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: Miami moving forward, good and bad. And I would add

529
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: to that on a more macro level, it's a very

530
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: big deal for the ACC. It's a very big deal,

531
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: even huge even for the Big Twelve by extension, because

532
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: so much of the conversation in the playoff era has

533
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 3: been about what the SEC and the Big Ten want

534
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: to do. We're hearing it now, by the way, as

535
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: they talk about what the next version of this playoff

536
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: is going to look like.

537
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's all about the SEC and the Big Ten.

538
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: Can Tony Patiti and Greg Sanki come to some sort

539
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: of a cord and move a sixteen team thing forward?

540
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: And I'm already tired of that. But all too often

541
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: in this conversation, the ACC and conferences like the Big

542
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Twelve by extension are sort of on the outside looking in.

543
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: There wasn't even a guarantee that Miami was going to

544
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: get into this field, you know, we had no idea,

545
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: and it really came down to the very final version

546
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: of the playoff rankings before we found out that that

547
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: was in fact the case, and we could talk till

548
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: we're blue in the face about the process and how

549
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: it's weird and it wasn't clearly communicated and the Tuesday

550
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: night shows are ridiculous and like, all of that stuff

551
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: is still true, but it doesn't invalidate what Miami did

552
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: this season. It doesn't invalidate Miami's case for being there.

553
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: They did beat Notre Dame Mai, Notre Dame fighting Irish.

554
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: I think they very much had a stake to be

555
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: in this thing. I claim to be in this thing

556
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have made it this far

557
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: is not only a testament to them, but also, to

558
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: some extent maybe the process that got them in. And

559
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I would say on a much bigger level, the ACC

560
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: as a whole. Right, if you have any team that

561
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: makes it out of your conference ends up winning the

562
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: national championship, that bodes well for that conference moving forward.

563
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: So this would be a huge feather in the cap

564
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: of the ACC if they were able to go on

565
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: and win this.

566
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: Thing, especially since they didn't beat a Big twelve team.

567
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: They didn't beat lowly ranked Cinderella Stories or a G

568
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: five team in this playoff, right, they beat a Texas

569
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: A and M team, from the SEC who won a

570
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: ton of games. Yeah, we ignore who texts A and

571
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: M actually beat. But they went to Texas A and

572
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: M and won that game a very difficult place to win.

573
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: In crazy windy and weather conditions.

574
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they went to a team that was number one

575
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: in the country for like fourteen weeks this year. They

576
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: didn't go to them, but they beat them on a

577
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: neutral field in Ohio State and beat them by double digits,

578
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: not a small deal for Miami the ACC and then

579
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: beat the SEC's Alpha the last man standing Ole Miss

580
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: in their semi final matchup. And they've just they've won

581
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: games exactly. How you know, if you're to believe a game,

582
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: is this like humanized sentient whatever, Like how the game dictated, right,

583
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: They took what the game asked of them, whether it

584
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: was from Ohio State in absorbing Jeremiah Smith but not

585
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: letting them score thirty in the process, getting the stops

586
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: when they needed the stops and getting those like crucial

587
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: third downs when they needed those crucial third downs. They

588
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: won the games. How the games dictated, they win, and

589
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: it was more scoring needed against Ole Miss.

590
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: They scored.

591
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: They made it work, they made it happen. They limited mistakes.

592
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: The penalties weren't great against Ole miss Maybe that's something

593
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: we can talk about more. But that for the acc

594
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: to run through a big ten power in two sec

595
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: games on the way to not just appearing in this game,

596
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 3: but winning this game, it's a huge deal.

597
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: You a very big deal. Okay, let's flip it around Indiana. Yeah. Weirdly,

598
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: to me, we've talked a lot more about what it

599
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: would mean if Indiana wins. We've done that already. We've

600
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: been having that converse throughout the playoffs. We've been having

601
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: that conversation frankly since Indiana made it last year. So

602
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: the Miami side of this, albeit there at home, there's

603
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: a lot of history with them coming back home. It's

604
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: been twenty five year, all this stuff, even though all

605
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: of that remains unchanged, I still feel like that aspect

606
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: of this has been undercovered as compared to the Indiana story,

607
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: which admittedly is crazy. It's great, it's improbable, it's crazy.

608
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: It's like a million different adjectives wrapped into one. So

609
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: what's it mean if Indiana does go on to win

610
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: this thing?

611
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Dan, it's the most improbable national champion of the modern era,

612
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: if not ever and Indiana is a product of the times,

613
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: which every national champion is, but these are you know,

614
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: different times as it relates to the you know whatever

615
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: twenty years the modern era before this, it's a more

616
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: difficult conference to win for Indiana, but it's easier to

617
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: build a competitive roster. Indiana did not build a competitive roster.

618
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: Indiana build a roster of killers, and they killed immediately,

619
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: and so that's never been done ever in this timetable.

620
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: So for Indiana, everything is you know, we've all been

621
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: through this conversation a million times, right the losing this

622
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: program ever, blah blah blah, they've an afterthought. There are

623
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: no football fans there. It's a traditional basketball school. They're

624
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: not even the premier school and their state with regard

625
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: to football. For them to come not just out of

626
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: the shadows, but to come out of the desert of

627
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: this sport to do this is as improbable as it gets.

628
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: Like we could have had a conversation five years ago,

629
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: and if we were to like draft teams, that seem

630
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: the most improbable to build a national championship contender. Given

631
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: where they are and where they've been and what the

632
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: sport is, Indiana has unbelievable wingspan and leaps out of

633
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: the gym r They're like an obvious draft pick of

634
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: Power Conference teams who were like, I just I can't

635
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: even squint and see a path. No, no, and that

636
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: they've hired with the money they haven't spent.

637
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything.

638
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't all that long ago that we were looking

639
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: at like a six and six or seven and five

640
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: season with yeah, you know, Tom Allen, Kevin Wilson, if

641
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: you want to go back to like the mid twenty tens,

642
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: and you know, we looked at that as an enormous

643
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: success for Indiana football, right you know, that was that

644
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: was by far exceeding what expectations were in the preseason.

645
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: So nobody had fifteen and zero in the Bingo card, nobody,

646
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: and I think we acknowledged at the start of the

647
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: year that we thought Indiana would be better, but the

648
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: schedule was harder. And you know, I'm not gonna be

649
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: too critical of our preseason commentary in Indiana because nobody

650
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: had this, even Indiana fans didn't have this. It. This

651
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: has certainly been a charm season with the right players

652
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: and the right co at the right time, and they

653
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: have been as you said, killers, what would this mean

654
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: for Indiana? You know, I we tend to talk about

655
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: everything in a college football sense here, but I did

656
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: a radio hit this past weekend with a friend, Steve

657
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Zaben down in DC. Yeah, and zeb asked the question

658
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: exactly this, what would it mean if Indiana wins? And

659
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: he went on to say, in my lifetime as a

660
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: sports fan does this not rank as one of the

661
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: best sports stories ever?

662
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: I think so? Does it not rank?

663
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: Is it not? At least in that conversation? And it

664
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: had never been presented to me in such terms, But

665
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that since I went on the

666
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: radio with him, and I think it tracks. I mean,

667
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: it's really up there. And so what does this mean

668
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: in a college football since? Give it what Indiana has done,

669
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: as you said, the timetable so quickly building it in

670
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: this capacity with the new coach and winning it and

671
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: going from rags to riches so quickly, like in a

672
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: college football sense, that is proof of concept for a

673
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: thousand different things, certainly related to the portal and nil

674
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: and Kurt Signetti, but just in a broader sports conversation,

675
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: we got to consider this at least as one of

676
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: the great stories we have seen in our lifetimes, and

677
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where it ranks. We can have that

678
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: conversation maybe in the off season if it comes to it.

679
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: But for Kurt Signetti to get Indiana here so quickly,

680
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't even have bet on this five years, No,

681
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: you could. You wouldn't even get odds if you tried

682
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: to bet on this, That's how improbable it felt there.

683
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something about I just I'm thinking about like

684
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: the Indiana teams of your and the conversations right there there,

685
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: you know that like L E O love everyone Tom

686
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: Allen teams, like the majority of the time that we

687
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: would talk about Indiana games, you know, hold it against us,

688
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: their tone.

689
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

690
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: It's just like I like this one guy. I like

691
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: Tye Fry Fogel, right, what a pull? I was like

692
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: four days ago. You know. It was the two names

693
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: that I was like, I was like, who are the

694
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 3: guys that we would talk about like they're not good?

695
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: This guy's got like kind of fun, this guy's got

696
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: some some spirit. The other one was wap Filiar because

697
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: you just want to talk. Yeah, I thought, maybe you're

698
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: gonna go Cody Latimer.

699
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: That was another one.

700
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: No mind, No, but like, look, this is Indiana program

701
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: where like they had a decent quarterback in Peyton Ramsey,

702
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: and as he's finishing out his career at Indiana.

703
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I want to give myself

704
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: one real shot.

705
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Northwestern, right Yeah, And that's that's

706
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: been Indiana. So that sort of reversal, right, it it

707
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: sort of cements Kurt Signetti as a modern miracle worker.

708
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 3: It's cements you know, Fernando Mendoza as an absolute college

709
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: football legend.

710
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: For doing this in a year.

711
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: Like even if you want to look at recent extremely

712
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: dominant teams like twenty nineteen LSU or whatever, like Joe

713
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: Burrow was there two years, He was decent in his

714
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: first year and then was a monster there. I guess

715
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: you could talk about Joe Brady in that context, however

716
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: you want to look at it. Sure, but it's just

717
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: the time of this happening. This happened in the Big Ten.

718
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: This is Indiana winning games against Ohio State and Michigan

719
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: and Oregon and Penn State, like all of these major

720
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: major programs that have decades upon decades of goodwill built

721
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: on the football field. Over Indiana and Indiana just coming

722
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: in and be like that's old news, that's old news.

723
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Who cares. I remember watching a game and I don't

724
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: even remember what it was. It might have been like

725
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, something like that. I remember Andre

726
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Ware was on the call for ESPN, and every other

727
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: word out of his mouth was about James Hardy Theers,

728
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: a big wide receiver they used to have who was

729
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: very good there. But you're right, it's all too often

730
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: been a conversation about a player or two who's interesting

731
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: on Indiana, not the team. I think we got to

732
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: talk about the case for each team, Dan, and we'll

733
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: flip it over to the Miami side of the coin here,

734
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: because I think there's more to talk about with respect

735
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: to Miami. Build the case for Miami to win this game.

736
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: What are the keys for them to win this game?

737
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: How do you see it?

738
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: If Miami ends up winning this how do they do it?

739
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: They dictate the terms right, It's the line play on offense,

740
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: generating a bunch of third and threes and converting backbreaking

741
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: third downs like we saw against I think CJ. Daniels

742
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: has been sort of the master of that recently, you know,

743
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: catching those tight passes in traffic on third and six

744
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: for seven and a half yards knowing where the sticks are.

745
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: That's a big deal on offense. I think riding the

746
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: balance really nicely, not abandoning Mark Fletcher like they sort

747
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: of did against Texas A and M and the wind

748
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: until going back to Mark Fletcher. I think that was

749
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: a big deal when they sort of went with what

750
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: was working. So yeah, Miami under thinking this and going

751
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: with what's working would be a great, great.

752
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: Leg up in this game.

753
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Let me add something to that please. I jotted down

754
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: play big dumb Mario ball. Okay, Miami is bigger than

755
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: Indiana on the lines, and we have seen Miami use

756
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: this to great effect with how they've run the ball

757
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: through the playoffs and they dominated with their defensive line. Obviously,

758
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about that. Yep, zoom out a

759
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit more, and I think what we have seen

760
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: with the big dumb Mario ball is one of the

761
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: big reasons why Miami has been able to turn two

762
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: of their three playoff games into slug fests. I think

763
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: it is essential that they play a slug fest, play

764
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: bully ball against Indiana f they want to win this game.

765
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: You do not want Indiana playing with momentum. That to

766
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: me feels like when they're most dang and when they

767
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: take your soul.

768
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 3: Oh, you don't think gifting pick sixes and uh punt.

769
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: I don't about it. I don't think it's good. Is

770
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: that not the move against Indiana? I just not told

771
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: that to Dan Lanning a couple of weeks ago.

772
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, send it to Danny. I'm gonna call him that now.

773
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: I like Danning.

774
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. If I'm Miami, I want to beat him up.

775
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: I want to beat up Indiana. Nobody's really been able

776
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: to stop Fernana Mendoza, So let's just do our best

777
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: to keep him off the field, right, play the big

778
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: dumb merriiaball right, play the volleyball, eat the clock, try

779
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: to keep.

780
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: Fernando off the field as best you can. To our

781
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: earlier conversation, though, you can't come away with zero on

782
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: a seven minute trive.

783
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: No no no, no no no. Right.

784
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: So that's that's the worry that when you play slow,

785
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: when you play deliberate, when you convert every third and

786
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: three and then suddenly you're on the Indiana thirty seven

787
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: and it's third and nine.

788
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely don't convert. You're like, that's the killer.

789
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: That's that's why it's such a high wire act to

790
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: play this way, because if you fall behind once, it

791
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: kills you.

792
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Couldn't a Green Moore. Couldn't a Green Moore? What else

793
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: you got?

794
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: I got a bunch on Miami. I mean again, the

795
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: case from Miami is not that complicated. The beat Ohio

796
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: State by more than Indiana did recently and pulled out

797
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: a losable game there. They beat the SEC's Alpha again

798
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: Ole miss in a losible game. They want a rock

799
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: fight against Texas A and m in a losible game.

800
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: To me, this looks like a losible game. When you're

801
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: a dog by what seven and a half, eight and

802
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: a half points in this moment, it's a losible moment

803
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: for Miami. Miami is not going to play out of itself, right.

804
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: They're not going to be an air ra team all

805
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: of a sudden. They're not going to alter their identity

806
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: because it's going to be unexpected and we'll catch them

807
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: by surprise.

808
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: Miami's just not going to be that team.

809
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of too Q to clock

810
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: though in Shannon Dawson. I mean, we've seen that with

811
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: the times with the Malacat thing that they do, the

812
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Wildcat featuring Malachai Tony. And we've seen a couple of

813
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: trick plays like the flea flicker that I think we

814
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: saw the last game, Like I mean, I could we've

815
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: seen some of these weird play calls from them at times.

816
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: But beyond that, You're right, they're not really playing outside

817
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: what they're good at. There very much. I can tell

818
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: you this.

819
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: I can tell you this, and Malchai Toni can throw.

820
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: But there has never been a time where I've watched

821
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: a team line up for a direct snap to a

822
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: running back or receiver and felt, ooh, the defense is

823
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 3: in trouble. Now, the defense is in real trouble.

824
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: Now. It works better in the video game than it

825
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: does in real life. I'll tell you that. Yeah.

826
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 3: And if there's one team that's likelier to run a

827
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: direct snap and a crucial time, it's Miami. Yes, but

828
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: you asked me what's the case for Miami? So I'm

829
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: going to continue.

830
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: Please.

831
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 3: The ceiling of their collective line talent seems very high,

832
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: and in a spot like this that seems important. Carson

833
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: Beck has experience. This is not his first BRIG game,

834
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: this is not his first time against an excellent defense

835
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: like this moment is not too big for his experience

836
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: and story thus far.

837
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: How about you were talking.

838
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 3: About the connective tissue by the way of Fernao Mendoza

839
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: and the city of Miami and his dad and Cristball

840
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 3: and everything like that.

841
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Corey Heatherman is from the Kurt Signetti tree.

842
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Yep, that's right.

843
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: He was a James Madison defensive coordinator. I'm not saying

844
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: that's a huge difference in this game. Corey Heatherman's was

845
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: like Broyle's quality assistant this year. He's a very very

846
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: good defensive coach, and so maybe, just maybe he remembers

847
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 3: a couple of like the rhythms, the in game rhythms

848
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: of Kurt Signetti. I'm not saying he's diagnosing everything well,

849
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: but he's familiarity there.

850
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I do think one of the keys for Miami is

851
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: can Heatherman dial up away to stop the run without

852
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: over committing. Sure, let me give credit to Robbie Kallen

853
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: over at CBS now who put this nugget out there

854
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: a few days ago. When Indiana averages four or more

855
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: yards per carry, the Hoosiers average margin of victory is

856
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: forty two point eight points per game. That's ten games

857
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: so far this year. When they average less than four

858
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: yards per carry, their average margin of victory is nine points,

859
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: and that happened in five games. Now Indiana won all

860
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: those games, but it does speak a little bit. I

861
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: think to the formula on defense. Indiana runs a bunch

862
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: of RPOs that are dependent on Fernanda mendoz that will

863
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: process what's going on. But the run game, the run

864
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: game on the Indiana side, despite the fact that Fernanda

865
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: Mendozi won the Heisman and as the talk of the

866
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: town is probably be the first overall pick and all

867
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: that right, the Indiana run game is an underrated aspect

868
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: of this offense, and I think they need it in

869
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: order for the whole thing to work. Sure, Miami needs

870
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to stop it. I think if they can stop it,

871
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: if they can sort of make Indiana a little bit

872
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: more one dimensional than they're used to, that could have

873
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: some positive ramifications for them, to say the least. But

874
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: they cannot do so by over committing, because if they

875
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: over commit, that's when Elijah Surat beats you one on one.

876
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: That's when guys like Charlie Becker beat you over the top,

877
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: and they don't drop passes that'll drop. Nobody ever drops

878
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: a pass on this team. No, So you gotta find

879
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: a way to stop that run without the over committing thing.

880
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Otherwise that's when Banana Mendoza diagnoses very quickly the saft

881
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: spot of the defense and he kills you. I don't

882
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: know if Miami can do this, but I think if

883
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: anybody can do this, it's Miami with the beef that

884
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: they have up front. So whether that's a Heatherman thing

885
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: and knowing any kind of tendency on the signette side,

886
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: whether it's just a Jimmy's and Joe's thing, where Miami

887
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: feels like they've got the talent up front and in

888
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: the front seven to break down the run without you know,

889
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: stretching themselves too thin. I don't know if this is doable,

890
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: but I've got that jotted down as a key because

891
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: I think if they can stop the run, more to

892
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: my earlier point, if Indiana can't run, if it makes

893
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: them a little bit more one dimensional, I think we've

894
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: got a different type of game on our hands than

895
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: we've seen thus far in the playoffs.

896
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Indiana has excuse me. Miami has the ability

897
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: to make a quarterback, any quarterback, supremely uncomfortable. And we've

898
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: seen mistakes from Fernando Mendoza. Not often, but if he

899
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: doesn't see a clear path to a skate pressure, he

900
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: has thrown and made mistakes. He you know, fumbled against

901
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: Oregon early on. That seemed like it may have changed

902
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: the rhythm of that game. It very much did not,

903
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: but it was a big moment where he fumbles against

904
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 3: the ball back on a big third down. It takes

905
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: them out of a drive. I threw a pick six

906
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: against Oregon that first time on the road.

907
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: This is very much a.

908
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: Road spot for Indiana against Miami. By the way sidebar there,

909
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: the ticket allotment is not the same, no, for like,

910
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: this is not a Miami home game. Obviously, there's you know,

911
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: ticket a lotman for season ticket holders for each of

912
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: these teams and fans of each of these teams, and

913
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: a lot of it's like corporate interests. This is the

914
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: college Football Playoff controlling the tickets in this game. So

915
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: maybe in Miami fans buy up everything that's available, and

916
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: that's certainly you know possible, But there's eight hundred thousand

917
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: or whatever living Indiana alumni, right, So I think it's

918
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: the biggest alumni base in America. So that's something. But

919
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: it's still like Miami has the ability to throw Fernando

920
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: Mendoz's brain into chaos if he's scrambling without like an

921
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: exit plan. So that's something there that I think you

922
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: have to consider it to be a really nice thing

923
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: for for Miami.

924
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: I have down here.

925
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: This year's Miami team is exclusively lost to inferior teams

926
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: and played to the moment. They didn't lose any of

927
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: their big games. SMU is not a big game. SMU

928
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: is a decent team, but that was not a huge

929
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: moment for Miami. They just blew the moment, and same

930
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: goes for Louisville. So that was those were not huge

931
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: games for Miami emotionally or just within the rhythm of

932
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 3: the season. I have the you know, they're playing at

933
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: de facto home game with no pressure because they're underdogs, right,

934
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: you'd like to be playing from Miami's spot emotionally here

935
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: than Indiana. Yes, I think there's a certain amount of

936
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: pressure because they're playing in this game at home, but

937
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: they're not being looked at as like, well, this is

938
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: all just a formality for Miami. Now they're playing at

939
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: home and they're favored. I kind of think playing I

940
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: think it's more of a formality for Indiana. I think

941
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: playing at home ratchets up the pressure from where could

942
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: have been.

943
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: Yes, the pressure that has been on this program for

944
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years to get back to where

945
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: they once were has been suffocating, and to the point

946
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: that you made earlier, Crystal Ball has stayed away from

947
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: it artfully. So Yeah, they don't want to draw too

948
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: close a comparison to any of those old teams because

949
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: they know that there's a trap there to constantly be

950
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: compared to the past. I kind of think there's more

951
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: pressure on Miami, even though they're a dog. But the

952
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: fact that they got this one at home, the fact

953
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: that they snuck in, the fact like there they've got

954
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: this roster, many of whom will be drafted in the

955
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: pros either now or later. There's just so much working

956
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: for them. It feels like the window is open and

957
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: that this is the time to really bring this whole

958
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: thing full circle and win again. Indiana's playing with house money.

959
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Nobody thought Indiana would be here. That's true, So for me,

960
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: I kind of come at it this from the other

961
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: side of it. Two other things that I'll bring up here, Okay.

962
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: Please, I have a couple more as well from Miami,

963
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: But continue while we're.

964
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: Talking about the case from Miami. You mentioned Carson Beck,

965
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: but I want to go back to that for a second.

966
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: Carson Beck's forty two career starts. Yeah, forty two career starts.

967
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: This will be a supreme test of how he handles

968
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: a moment like this. We've seen him on big stages before.

969
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: He's not a stranger to this. But I think for me,

970
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: this is the chess match here because Indiana and their

971
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Bryant Haynes have been lauded for showing one

972
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: thing pre snap and then doing another after the snap. Right.

973
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: The Indiana defense I think deserves a ton of credit

974
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: for being able to pull this off because it speaks

975
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: to the culture that they've built around communication and discipline

976
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: and just putting new guys into a system and having

977
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: everybody understand it right away. This is not a simple

978
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: defense to understand. It's pretty and what they do, even

979
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: if it doesn't look like that pre snap all the time.

980
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: Carson Beck cannot allow himself to be baited by that,

981
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: because there will be moments in this game when they

982
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: can't run and they can't throw the quick screen or

983
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: the RPO, and his decision making in those moments is

984
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: almost certainly something that we're gonna have to talk about

985
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: on Monday night on the recap. So while I think

986
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: there is a tug of war that I'll speak to

987
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit later on in this episode, for me,

988
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: the chess match is Carson Beck diagnosing this defense and

989
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: moving the ball down the field, not doing anything stupid.

990
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen him do anything stupid thus far in

991
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's been really good. Even if the stats

992
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: aren't great, He's been really good. That needs to continue

993
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: for one more game, and I think this will be

994
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: the toughest test of that. And to the point then

995
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Miami just can't beat themselves. Can't beat yourself. It's pretty

996
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: well established at this point that Miami was a heavily

997
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: penalized team. They averaged seven penalties per game, one hundred

998
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: and fourth in the nation. The offensive line in particular

999
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: one of the most penalized in the country. Yep, and

1000
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: I spoke about this before. You may recall how it

1001
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: was driving the fine folks over at State of the

1002
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: U crazy, because, like we read that site all the

1003
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: time to get the inside track on what's going on

1004
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: with Miami football. They're going nuts about it. After the

1005
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: Louisville lost. I remember reading it. So this is something

1006
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: that we have certainly been paying attention to throughout the

1007
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: course of the season for Miami, and they can't do

1008
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: it again. Indiana is just very good at what they do,

1009
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: and part of that is waiting for you to make

1010
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: a mistake. And I know I've said this before, I'll

1011
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: say it again. Indiana is Scotti Scheffler. That's who they are.

1012
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: They're not the longest driver, they're not the best putter,

1013
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: but they're great with their irons and they never make

1014
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: bogie right. And so it's hard enough to beat any team,

1015
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: but it's really tough to beat a team that sort

1016
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: of waits around for you to screw up. See can't

1017
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: screw up. And whether that's Carson sand it's quickly, whether

1018
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: it's Carson Beck going up against the defense that shows

1019
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: a lot and then does something else, whether it's putting

1020
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground. We saw mal chay TONI

1021
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: do that a little bit whatever it is penalties. You

1022
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: cannot beat yourself against a team like Indiana, otherwise going

1023
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: to come back to bite. Yet. So for me, the

1024
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: four keys that I jotted down a don't beat yourself

1025
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: be the Carson Beck chess match, see stopping the run

1026
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: without over committing, and then going back to what I

1027
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: said at the very top, play big dumb Mario crystal

1028
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: ball football. Those are my four keys from Miami.

1029
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: I think they're down their tight end right.

1030
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: Elijah Lofton got hurt, which I mean not the biggest

1031
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: pass catcher, but has made some big catches for Miami

1032
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: this year. The other thing on the Carson back point

1033
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: is yes, there is a lot of blame with the

1034
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: passing game and mistakes in their losses to SMU and Louisville.

1035
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: He's been really clean in terms of turnovers since that

1036
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: SMU game. He had tipped pass in the red zone

1037
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: against the Old Man, which yes, is partially on him.

1038
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: He threw into a hand, which is not advisable in

1039
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 3: my opinion. They also committed i want to say, zero

1040
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: penalties against Ohio State as well. So Miami has it

1041
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: in them to play extremely clean. We'll see, and you know,

1042
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: Obviously it's dependent on how the referees are feeling, and

1043
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: you know what the rhythm of the game is. But

1044
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: they have it in them to play very clean, both

1045
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: from a passing perspective and a penalty perspective. So agree,

1046
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: I think I think those are all right. I have

1047
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: down here also as well. The best of Miami is

1048
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 3: essentially asked kicking to wear teams down. And this is

1049
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: game sixteen for Indiana. At some point, he says, they

1050
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 3: can't keep getting away with this. At some point, a

1051
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: linebacker has to get tired mentally or physically. At some point,

1052
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: a corner has to. At some point, a left tackle

1053
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: has to. And Miami is the type of team if

1054
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: they identify somebody who is weary, somebody who appears to

1055
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: be sluggish mentally or physically, that they can pound that

1056
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: dude into the ground phrasing. So there is that that

1057
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: Miami is one of the last teams, if not the

1058
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: last team, you want to face if you are not

1059
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: feeling like your full self after fifteen games. No, that's

1060
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: my case for Miami. There's a lot of players that

1061
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: are gonna be difference makers that they've won in different ways.

1062
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: They were able to survive, like the both starting corners

1063
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 3: out for the second half of that game, and Oj

1064
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: Frederick and Xavier Lucas, who will not be playing in

1065
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: the first half of this game after the targeting call

1066
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: against Ole miss right that they're able to weather these things.

1067
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 3: They're able to count on youth. You know that, there's

1068
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 3: just different things they've turned to to sort of enhance

1069
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: their ability to win.

1070
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: My case for Indiana revolves around three keys in particular. Okay,

1071
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: the very first one is they need to protect Fernando Mendozo. Yep,

1072
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: not a great mystery, not a great secret. Gotta protect him.

1073
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: Mendoza has been the highest graded quarterback of this year

1074
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: under pressure, and on top of that, he is extremely

1075
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: difficult to confuse. That doesn't mean Miami shouldn't try Dan, right, Yeah.

1076
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I feel like we get down the rabbit hole of

1077
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: these conversations all too often and it's like, well, you

1078
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: can't confuse them, so now what are they gonna do? Well,

1079
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna try. Corey Heathman's gonna try because he has

1080
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: elite edge rushers that are gonna test that Indiana line.

1081
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: I've also discussed how Indiana's line is equally as difficult

1082
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: to confuse, but again that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

1083
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: And I think Corey Heatherman is going to dial up

1084
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: some exotic blitzes, some complex pressure schemes to try and

1085
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get to Mendoza. Part of

1086
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: it will be the stunts and the twist that we

1087
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: have seen from them all year, But I think the

1088
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: other part of it is just proving that Indiana can

1089
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: block them one on one, because they gotta like the

1090
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: Jimmies and Joe's again that they have up front. Definitely,

1091
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: So let's see what Indiana could do against Reuben Bain Junior.

1092
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: Let's see what they can do against a key Mesador.

1093
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: Let's put those guys in different positions. We've seen them

1094
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: do that throughout the course of the season. In this playoff.

1095
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: Move those guys around, put them next to each other,

1096
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: have them loop around. Let's see what these guys can

1097
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: do trying to block Miami. And I'm speaking about the

1098
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Indiana line. They got to give them time. This, to me,

1099
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: I think is the big tug of war in this game.

1100
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: Indiana's line has passed every test so far this season.

1101
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that they can't handle Miami

1102
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: over the course of sixty minutes. But it would also

1103
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: be malpracticed to assume that it's no big deal that

1104
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: ah asually just handwave it. They've handled everybody, they can

1105
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: handle Miami. This will be a real challenge for them,

1106
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: and so I think there are some things that Indiana

1107
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: can learn from how Old miss handled the Miami front.

1108
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: The pass rush was way less of a factor in

1109
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: that game than I think we expected. But I think

1110
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: it goes without saying I hope it goes without saying that.

1111
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: Even though the line has been good and Fernando Mendoz

1112
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: has been great against pressure, this is still a different

1113
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of puzzle to solve for that Indiana front. And

1114
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: they got to protect Fernando. They got to protect protect him.

1115
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: They got to get enough of a push up front

1116
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: to establish something of a ground game, so they have

1117
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: the necessary balance here against this defense. Point Number one

1118
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: for me, Okay, keep going. Point number two third downs.

1119
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: Over the last two games, Miami's been about fifty five

1120
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: percent or so on third downs, a little bit under

1121
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: that last game, they were what eleven of nineteen. Yeah,

1122
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: it's great, it's a great number. I think Miami is

1123
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: going to play slow and methodical, and as I mentioned earlier,

1124
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: big dumb Mario ball and I know it's Mario, but

1125
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: the Woods we call it Mario. Yeah.

1126
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: Tyl live's in a very specific sliver of America that

1127
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: pronounces everything just slightly off.

1128
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: And says HOGI water and in some cases water yeah.

1129
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: Do you know people who say use I do yeah yousse?

1130
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: To be clear, yeah, are you related to any of

1131
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: these people? I am not, thankfully.

1132
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

1133
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: I think the only way Miami can play that style

1134
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: of football is if they're converting on third downs. So

1135
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: on the Indiana side third down defense, it's not just

1136
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: on third down, it also extends to first and second

1137
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: down as well. Can you stop Miami from getting into

1138
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 1: third and manageable? Can you create more third and eights

1139
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: that type of thing. Miami, to their credit, has been

1140
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: averaging one hundred and seventy three yards on the ground

1141
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: thus far through the playoffs. They have leaned on their

1142
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: offensive line to get that push. It is a matchup

1143
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: again to watch in the trenches. We can talk about

1144
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: the Indiana line and how it's going to handle the

1145
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Miami front. I'm most curious, I think how this matchup

1146
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: goes down, and that is can the Indiana defensive line

1147
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: make enough hay against that Miami front to get these

1148
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: into third and longer situations? So it's not just a

1149
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: gimme for Miami stop them on third downs and the

1150
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: big dumb Mario crystal ball football point two right, and

1151
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: my third point is very specific to something we have

1152
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: seen Miami do over the last couple games. And I

1153
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: think this is going out to the Indiana defense, but

1154
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: it's a world dan where all the rational people are

1155
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: trying to get away from their screens, trying to watch

1156
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: less of their screens. I think the Miami offense has

1157
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: proven to us that the Indiana defense needs to watch

1158
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: all of the screens because Miami wants to get the

1159
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: ball to guys life like malachay TONI in space, and

1160
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: we have seen them have great success doing it this

1161
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: year with screens with quick RPOs, stuff like that. He's shifty,

1162
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: he'll make you pay. He made all misspay. So if

1163
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: you're not fundamentally sound, if you can't tackle him in

1164
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: open space, that's a problem. If he's able to make

1165
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Indiana miss, that affects the whole third down defense thing too, right,

1166
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: It has further reaching ramifications than just one thing. So

1167
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: if Miami is getting him the ball in space, if

1168
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: he's making people miss, if they're getting chunk plays, that

1169
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: is a problem. That is a real issue that Indiana

1170
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: needs to do something about. They're a zone heavy team, Indiana,

1171
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Miami's going to try to overload one side of the zone.

1172
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: They're going to play a numbers game. They're going to

1173
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: try and get guys the ball in space. My hunch

1174
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: is that if you're Shannon Dawson, you like Malachay Tony's

1175
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: chances of making a guy miss, Indiana cannot let that happen,

1176
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice, but consistently. You got to be

1177
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: able to get this guy on the ground. Otherwise that

1178
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: screen game is something they're going to use to pick

1179
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: them to death.

1180
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Yep.

1181
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: So for me, the three keys to victory, protect Fernando,

1182
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: third down, defense, watch the screen, I eat al Kai

1183
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: Toni on the screen.

1184
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: By the way, when an instructive game, I think just

1185
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: in terms of like what can get to Indiana is less.

1186
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: The Oregon game that was on the road, and just

1187
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: earlier on in the season, the Penn State game was interesting.

1188
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: It was Penn State was really good on third down

1189
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: all things considered, they were ran a backup quarterback and

1190
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: interim everything like that, and couldn't really run.

1191
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: They couldn't run. But what's really interesting about that if

1192
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: you look at how Indiana played against Penn State, and

1193
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a respect thing. I

1194
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know, if it's like an Ethan grunka Meyer thing.

1195
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: I really don't know what they were thinking defensively, But

1196
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: compared to all the other games that we have seen

1197
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: from the Indiana defense this year, they barely blitz than

1198
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: that one. Right, they dialed up almost no pressure. The

1199
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: number that comes to mind is twenty percent of the time,

1200
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: and that number has been considerably higher against nearly every

1201
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: other opponent. So I don't know if it was the

1202
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: situational side of the game that caused them to take

1203
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a left turn, But it does

1204
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: seem as if, for whatever reason, they broke tendency in

1205
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: that game in State College and they damn your lost

1206
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: if not for an incredible catch by Omar Cooper Junior.

1207
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: I have less in terms of bullet points for the

1208
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: case for Indiana.

1209
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: One.

1210
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: They're impervious to mistakes. That's a really good case for

1211
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: an that's it. Let's close the show out right.

1212
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: Two.

1213
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: They just rocked Oregon in Alabama. They didn't beat them,

1214
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: they didn't comfortably win those games.

1215
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: They rocked them.

1216
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: Okay, those are two really good teams, at least at

1217
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: their best, and in every important metric regard they're superior.

1218
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: They do every little, medium and big thing better more

1219
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: consist instantly over time. When you weigh a sample size,

1220
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: whether it's third down, whether it's red zone, whether it's

1221
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 3: first down, whether it's passing downs, whether it's rushing the passer.

1222
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: I don't have the exact pass rushing numbers in front

1223
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: of me, but if they're not superior, they're nearly identical.

1224
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 3: There is no statistical point in this game is played

1225
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: on the field that is not played on paper. Also

1226
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: check out Game on Paper. They do a great job

1227
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: with advanced college. Will just launch some.

1228
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: New features too, by the way, yes, yeah, go and

1229
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: check out Game on Paper dot Com. A lot of

1230
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: interesting ways to look at the sport. Oh yeah, all right.

1231
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: In terms of production in the whole Kurt Signetti product

1232
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: production over what projection or potential or whatever Indiana produces.

1233
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: They get the job done more often on more downs

1234
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: and more situations, on more stages in a more difficult

1235
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: conference this season than Miami was able to do so,

1236
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: just in terms of the path to get here, it's

1237
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: paved with more success more often when you look at

1238
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: Indiana's road, and that to me is meaningful, and so

1239
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: at a certain point you have to pick a team,

1240
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: and I've sort of been doubting. I mean, I haven't

1241
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: been doubting Indian. Indiana has been excellent all season long.

1242
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: I guess I doubted them maybe a little bit heading

1243
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: into the Illinois game.

1244
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: Early on. I saw them winning that game and covering,

1245
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: but you probably did. I don't think I did. I

1246
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: know you didn't. I didn't know. I didn't I didn't.

1247
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been picking them since then.

1248
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: But they're a murder machine. They are everything you want

1249
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: a national champion to look like. And maybe I'm overestimating

1250
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: them after Oregon and you know, thinking Oregon had a

1251
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: shot in.

1252
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: That game, but.

1253
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. They just have the look of a

1254
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: team who can't lose this moment. I don't know.

1255
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the case is not complicated. They're they're better coached,

1256
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: they ex acute better, they have a better quarterback, and

1257
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: they have more ways to win more often.

1258
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: What's your final score prediction?

1259
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: My final score in this one is.

1260
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: Twenty eight to seventeen Indiana. Okay, I have them winning

1261
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: by eleven. I have it being back and forth somewhat.

1262
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: I do have some kind of killer Miami mistake in

1263
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: this one, and the rhythm not being a blowout, not

1264
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: being last second.

1265
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: I have a reasonably comfortable Indiana win here.

1266
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: I also have Indiana by eleven. Again, we don't who

1267
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: to thunk. We don't run these past one another before

1268
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: we go live.

1269
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: But quick math on your part, by the way.

1270
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, not great at math. I've got it

1271
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty Indiana, so a little bit higher scoring.

1272
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: I guess it would hit the over there's just too

1273
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: much to like, you know, they're so buttoned up. This

1274
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: isn't to say they won't make mistakes or can't make mistakes,

1275
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: but Indiana is definitely less mistake prone. That's the understatement

1276
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: of the century as compared to Miami. Not that Miami

1277
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: is super mistake prone in terms of the backbreaking stuff,

1278
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of the little stuff, a lot

1279
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: of the little stuff with penalties, some of the play calling,

1280
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: some of the decisions. It just doesn't feel like that's

1281
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: as much of a risk on the Indiana side. So

1282
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: Indiana favored by eight and a half again at time

1283
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: of recording. I guess we're both going oh with the Hoosiers. Yeah,

1284
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty is my final.

1285
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: Twenty eight to seventeen. I think low scoring first quarter,

1286
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 3: if any scoring, like a three to nothing first quarter,

1287
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 3: as teams get a feel for the game.

1288
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1289
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, ultimately, I think you know, one of the

1290
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: things that I guess we didn't fully mention, but you

1291
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: were talking about run defense in this one. Iowa was

1292
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: able to run some on Indiana this year. Oregon was

1293
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 3: able to run some in that first match up Ohio State,

1294
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: I want to say, was able to run a little bit.

1295
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: I know that was, you know, a big Jeremiah Smith

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: game against Indiana. But if you are going to you know,

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Speaker 3: in this again something you've mentioned, if you are going

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Speaker 3: to dictate a little bit in this game against Indiana,

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: it seems like it has to be on the ground.

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01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: It just does not seem like we're gonna walk away

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: from this game. We're like, Wow, I was a Carson

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01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: back game.

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: Who to thunk. So that's that's a place where Miami

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01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: can make some hay.

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01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I have you know.

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 3: Ultimately it's a a combination of quarterback and lines, defense

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: and coach. I think Indiana is just they measure up

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: a little bit better.

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I'd love to hear from Arvard

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: ballerhood on this one. As you know, you can't go

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01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: out to Verballers dot com to help support the team.

1312
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: You can, of course look us up on any of

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: our social platforms. We can always email sOliver Well at

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01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and let us know your thoughts. For

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: what it's worth. I did post a pull out on

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: our solid Verbal YouTube channel asking people which side of

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: the bet they would take Indiana minus seven and a

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: half at the time this was a few days ago,

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: or Miami plus seven and a half seventy seven percent

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Speaker 1: of the respondents and we got a good number of

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: people who responded over eighteen hundred seventy seven percent when

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: Indiana minus the number.

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Speaker 3: What is what are the like the betting numbers? I

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01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: don't know if you pulled those, like where is the

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Speaker 3: where are the majority of the bets? Where's the majority

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Speaker 3: of the money? I don't know if you have that

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Speaker 3: on any of those wagering sites.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can pull it up real quick. My hunch

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01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: is that there is a lot of steam on Indiana.

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01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: Because the opening number was seven and a half in

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01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: favor of the Hoosiers. The fact that that has now

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: gone up a little bit tells me that we're probably

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: seeing a little bit of a move towards, you know,

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers. Right now, eighty nine percent of the

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: money and eighty percent of the bets are on Indiana.

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01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: So if you are of the mind that you want

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01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: to fade the public, and it's not always the worst strategy,

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: Miami plus eight and a half could be interesting. Maybe

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: that number jumps up a little bit to nine. I

1340
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: think in some places it's already at nine. If betting is.

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Speaker 3: Your thing, did you weigh the fact that Miami has

1342
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: its own self sustaining energy source in Michael Irvin on

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 3: their sideline.

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you should mention that because one of

1345
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: the other questions that I jotted down here that I

1346
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: was going to ask as a bit of a gag

1347
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: to close out the show. Yeah, maybe this is my moment.

1348
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: But on our bol Bingo card again, thirty props. It's

1349
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: free to play. All you gotta do is pick six.

1350
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I interject couple of my own in there, of course,

1351
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: to keep things interesting, and one that I added was

1352
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin will be flagged for some kind of sideline warning. WHOA.

1353
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: I like that, So we can't rule it out, and

1354
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, but seeing him sort of

1355
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: convulse on the side sidelines throughout the course of this

1356
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: playoff run, there's at least a chance that Michael Irvin

1357
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 1: could somehow be involved in a sideline fracas and be

1358
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: flagged for a sideline violation.

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01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I like that.

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: And you know, at time of recording, I don't believe

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01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: ESPN has released yet what their full broadcast strategy is

1362
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: going to be, so obviously they're going to cover the game.

1363
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: It would be Fouler and Herbie on the call, but

1364
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: typically they have a bunch of alt casts. So I

1365
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: think we saw they're going to be doing a coaches

1366
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: room again, saw that.

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: Who have they announced who I haven't seen.

1368
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: Who's going to be in it. They'll probably do the

1369
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: sideline thing with the McAfee show like they've been doing

1370
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: for the other games Skycast, they'll have the command center

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01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: of the one where they've got all the stats up

1372
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: on ESPN News or something. That's my assumption. I haven't

1373
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: seen official announcements on that yet, but my hunch is

1374
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: that they're going to have a whole host of those.

1375
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: I stand by what I said a couple of weeks ago.

1376
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: We need the Irvin cast. We need the Irvin casts.

1377
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: Just show them, show him, put him on a split

1378
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 1: screen with what's going on in the game. That would

1379
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: be high entertainment. You can you stream live from like

1380
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: the Meta glasses, the Facebook.

1381
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: It's gonna be wear those.

1382
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: That'd be perfect, absolutely perfect.

1383
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

1384
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: You saw that the halftime show is Seventh Floor Crew reuniting. No,

1385
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: it's not the halftime show. I did look it up.

1386
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: It's the marching bands.

1387
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: They do that, but oh, that's it.

1388
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: Pitbull is going to be performing in the lead up

1389
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,440
Speaker 1: to the game, Mister three h five, Well obviously obviously

1390
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: got to perform.

1391
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 3: Do you think he is going to to like bring

1392
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: back the Dr Pepper, Like, is that going to be

1393
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: part of his set list?

1394
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate it, you know, I wouldn't hate it.

1395
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate that. I have a real good time.

1396
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: That's that song, right, that's the Dodtor Pepper song. It's

1397
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: been so long.

1398
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I have any other

1399
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 3: like throwaway. There's gonna be a lot of cutaways to

1400
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 3: former Miami players on the sideline. We'll probably to get

1401
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 3: at least one shot of Mark Cuban of cubes in

1402
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,440
Speaker 3: a suite in this one. Are there other Indiana luminaries

1403
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: Joe are going to.

1404
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't have Joe Buckle be there, but Joe bucksa

1405
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: Indiana luminary.

1406
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There's what's his name?

1407
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: Has the like has his own like a suite, right,

1408
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 3: so he can smoke at the Indiana Games. John Mellencamp,

1409
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 3: John Mellencamp. But you know about this, right, he has

1410
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: his own suite on the roof so he can smoke

1411
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 3: during Indiana games. So you got John Mellencamp. I'm trying

1412
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: to think of other Indiana or Indiana sports luminaries that

1413
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: would be there. I don't know, but yeah, we'll have

1414
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 3: we'll have a good amount of Miami cutaways the other

1415
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 3: By the way, here's the other thing.

1416
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: I probably should have mentioned this earlier.

1417
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: Kind of crazy that this is the retirement year of

1418
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: former Indiana head coach Lee Corso from college football and

1419
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:56,799
Speaker 3: Indiana's in the championship.

1420
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: Is it is a little weird, isn't it.

1421
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: He's going to be in in Indiana sweater.

1422
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: There has to be.

1423
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 3: There's going to be like in our old friends. Oh yeah,

1424
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: the legendary leak course, so Sunshine, it would be cool

1425
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: if they brought him back as the guest picker.

1426
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 1: That would be. That would be incredible. That would be

1427
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I don't hope they got yeah, but that

1428
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: would be that would be pretty awesome. Yeah. No, I'm

1429
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: excited to see luminary cutaways.

1430
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1431
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there, we're both on Indiana.

1432
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: Let us know who you are picking anywhere you can email,

1433
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: social media, uh comments as you're watching this video or

1434
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: listening to this out on Spotify or any of the

1435
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: apps that allow it. We'd love to hear from you. Yes,

1436
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: let us know where we're right, let us know where

1437
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: we're wrong.

1438
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: We've got they always do tie. They always let us

1439
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: know where we need no prompting.

1440
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're always letting us know where we're right and wrong,

1441
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: especially the Indiana people this year, especially the Indiana people

1442
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: this year.

1443
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: They're they're shooting out of the ground, Tye, you never

1444
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 3: saw them before. You can always see like those eight

1445
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 3: year locusts that just sort of emerge. Yes, yes, yeah,

1446
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: what are they? The what's it called, Taye? Look at

1447
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: the Cicada's right, The sig cadas is what I called

1448
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: them during the season. But I don't know if you've

1449
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 3: ever seen the clip of who's the guy that did

1450
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: gangdam style him? Like shooting out of the floor. They

1451
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: just shoot out of nowhere. These Indiana fans all honestly

1452
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: thrilled for him. Think about the life of like a

1453
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 3: true blue Indiana football fan. Like if you go back

1454
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 3: and look at like any Indiana football preview that we've done,

1455
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 3: that anybody's done, there's always like one guy.

1456
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: Be like, oh no, if we could break right away,

1457
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: we go four to eight, and.

1458
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: I just, I don't know, it's pretty crazy and I'm

1459
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 3: pretty happy for everybody involved in this one.

1460
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: Fan wise, Indiana against Miami got one big one left.

1461
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: On Monday night, January nineteenth, kicking off from hard Rock

1462
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: Stadium in Miami, Dan and I will be back with

1463
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: you guys right after the game. We'll do it live

1464
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: on YouTube. We'll also put it out here on the

1465
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: audio feed. That'll are we doing a watch along? Have

1466
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: we even discussed that? I don't think we discussed it.

1467
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: I'd be open to it.

1468
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: If you want to, I'm open to it. Sure.

1469
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think social media, Email

1470
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: out on Patreon, what have you. If it's something you want,

1471
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: leave us a comment. We'll see if it's something we

1472
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: can put together. We got one big one left. Everybody

1473
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: care win national championship. We'll catch you all on Monday night.

1474
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: In the meantime for that guy, my good friend Dan

1475
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: Rubenstein from myself, Ty Hildebrand. Enjoy your weekend, enjoy the game,

1476
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: and until next time, stay solid.

1477
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: Peace.