1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,840
Speaker 1: And hello again everyone, and welcome to Big Blue Kickoff

2
00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,160
Speaker 1: Live here, brought to you buy a Corps light as

3
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,240
Speaker 1: always right here on giants dot Com. At the controls today,

4
00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,600
Speaker 1: Mr Dan Salomone sitting alongside me, the former two time

5
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion David del am Russ Salzburg and it's

6
00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,200
Speaker 1: you people out there to call us. The number is

7
00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,920
Speaker 1: two O one five one three. Before we say anything,

8
00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,440
Speaker 1: a happy and healthy Thanksgiving to each and every one

9
00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,840
Speaker 1: of you and your families, and well, you know, maybe

10
00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120
Speaker 1: you're just gonna watch this and then take off to

11
00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:43,199
Speaker 1: wherever the destination is. Please, this is the worst weekend

12
00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,000
Speaker 1: of all to be traveling. So if you're traveling, that's

13
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 1: what Thanksgiving is all about. Be thankful, you have your family,

14
00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,320
Speaker 1: all good things, so make sure you drive safe and careful.

15
00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,560
Speaker 1: And that being said, the Green Bay Packers next on

16
00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,840
Speaker 1: the list, and the fact that they not just lost,

17
00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 1: got the crapbeat out of them at a time on

18
00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,759
Speaker 1: national TV ain't gonna make it any easier. No, it's

19
00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,880
Speaker 1: it definitely isn't. I mean, this is uh a football

20
00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,360
Speaker 1: team in the Green Bay Packers that has shown resolve

21
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,360
Speaker 1: and the after the losses they are too and know

22
00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360
Speaker 1: the post games following, and you know they always say

23
00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,759
Speaker 1: the one of the most dangerous teams is a wounded team.

24
00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,520
Speaker 1: And this team, you know, is coming in full gambit

25
00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,280
Speaker 1: understanding where they are in the NFC and in this race,

26
00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,160
Speaker 1: and this Giants team has to be prepared for it,

27
00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the defensive side of the ball.

28
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,760
Speaker 1: Not only what Aaron Rodgers presents as a quarterback, but

29
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,480
Speaker 1: on those games after those losses where they want to

30
00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 1: and oh they leaned upon Jones and Williams in the

31
00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,720
Speaker 1: running game to build up the momentum in the play

32
00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,800
Speaker 1: action passing game into eight A defense. So for this

33
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,480
Speaker 1: Giants football team going up against the Green Bay Packers, defensively,

34
00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,840
Speaker 1: assignment alignment, make sure that they're disciplined. Don't give him

35
00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840
Speaker 1: those extra you know, throws in those extra plays that

36
00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680
Speaker 1: he knows that are freebees. And on the offensive side

37
00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880
Speaker 1: of the ball, this is a team in the Green

38
00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280
Speaker 1: Bay Packers on the defensive side of the ball that

39
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,720
Speaker 1: has given up hundred yard rushers. It is time for

40
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,919
Speaker 1: this Giant's offensive line, the tight ends and the running

41
00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,680
Speaker 1: backs to click and get the run game going. Because

42
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720
Speaker 1: we've seen when this football team becomes one dimensional like

43
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,680
Speaker 1: they have in the past. It is a difficult task

44
00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,840
Speaker 1: to come out of. Before I answer you to our

45
00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,720
Speaker 1: good friend Dance, I got to remind them, Dan, do

46
00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,440
Speaker 1: it under the big blue under the phone number, not

47
00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,639
Speaker 1: over the phone number. Sometimes we have to do our

48
00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,440
Speaker 1: technical work, clerical work right here in front of you,

49
00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,720
Speaker 1: the great ones. But I would say this to what's

50
00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880
Speaker 1: something that you just said? Nothing's you know, more dangerous

51
00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 1: than a wounded team. Basically having said that, the giants

52
00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,160
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous. Yeah, you know, I say, kind

53
00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,560
Speaker 1: of ingest. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Of course, listen,

54
00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,840
Speaker 1: it ain't for lack of trying. No, anybody says that

55
00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,360
Speaker 1: it's garbage. It's not for lack of trying. We just

56
00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440
Speaker 1: walked out of the locker room. I mean, I mean,

57
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,680
Speaker 1: these guys want it. You can see that they wanted.

58
00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,000
Speaker 1: They had a great practice today. I mean, and that together.

59
00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, the thing that you talk about, and we've

60
00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,680
Speaker 1: talked about throughout this entire time, is that when you

61
00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,519
Speaker 1: look at this football team, it's not just about having

62
00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080
Speaker 1: young players that you have to groom, that have to

63
00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,120
Speaker 1: get experience, that have to make progress. We've seen that

64
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,840
Speaker 1: out of this young football team. But the other thing

65
00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,680
Speaker 1: that you see out of this football team is a

66
00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,320
Speaker 1: willingness to stick together, to fight through it together. No

67
00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,880
Speaker 1: pointing fingers, no blaming one another. But the biggest thing

68
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,760
Speaker 1: that they need to do is take what they're doing

69
00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000
Speaker 1: out on the practice field and bring it to the

70
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,120
Speaker 1: game field. When when anxiety comes about and when there

71
00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,360
Speaker 1: are pressure points in the football game, our football team

72
00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to respond. And I know I've talked

73
00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880
Speaker 1: about the young players, and actually I got to do

74
00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,600
Speaker 1: a debate with one of the people that were listening

75
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,880
Speaker 1: to me do the post game show on Sunday. They

76
00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,920
Speaker 1: were upset that I called out Sae Kwan Barkeley and

77
00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,280
Speaker 1: Golden Tape for the drops in the first quarter. Well,

78
00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 1: how how can you do that? Golden Tap had the

79
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,880
Speaker 1: big touchdown number one. If there was anybody that would

80
00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,360
Speaker 1: tell you how disappointed they were in themselves not coming

81
00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,640
Speaker 1: up with that catch, it would be Golden Tap number two.

82
00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,600
Speaker 1: We talked about getting Sa Kuan involved in the passing game.

83
00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,000
Speaker 1: He had an open opportunity in that football game to

84
00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,560
Speaker 1: catch a football on third down, to continue to build

85
00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,400
Speaker 1: momentum in this football game, to put the Bears in

86
00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360
Speaker 1: a bind. When you sit here and you look at

87
00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,120
Speaker 1: this football game, even with everything going wrong, it still

88
00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,239
Speaker 1: should have been thirteen to nothing at half time without

89
00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,400
Speaker 1: at minimum tend nothing, at minim minimum tend nothing. But yes,

90
00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,400
Speaker 1: the thirteen nothing. Listen. I was watching the post game show,

91
00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,640
Speaker 1: and as soon as you said it, I said, thank goodness,

92
00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,960
Speaker 1: because you know, we call it coach speak, coach talk, execution, execution, execution,

93
00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,440
Speaker 1: attention to detail. And I hadn't marked down on all

94
00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,839
Speaker 1: my notes lack of execution, a lack of execution. I walked.

95
00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960
Speaker 1: I knocked down three in particular. Once you touched on

96
00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,520
Speaker 1: obviously what was miss which if it wasn't a touchdown,

97
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,800
Speaker 1: it was like a fifty yard game. Uh. And and

98
00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,840
Speaker 1: before we got to it was third and seven. Quan

99
00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,719
Speaker 1: was third and four, third and four the Tate miss

100
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,640
Speaker 1: and it was not the absolutely easiest catch, but we've

101
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,799
Speaker 1: seen him making this is golden tap maybe somebody else,

102
00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,640
Speaker 1: so golden Tate. And there was also one he tripped

103
00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,040
Speaker 1: a little maybe his little rusty just coming out of

104
00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200
Speaker 1: the gate. That one down the sideline in front of

105
00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, on the giant side of the field, where

106
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,919
Speaker 1: where um stoning ship. It didn't turn around. That was

107
00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,840
Speaker 1: three plays either way, it's three lack of execution. All

108
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,800
Speaker 1: three were important big you know, two of them would

109
00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,719
Speaker 1: have been big gainers, and the third one would have

110
00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,840
Speaker 1: been for a first time, first time, and they're not

111
00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080
Speaker 1: good enough to overcome them, and then and they give

112
00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 1: up the opportunity. And that's the point that I brought

113
00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,800
Speaker 1: up is I'm not doing it to call anybody out.

114
00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it to single anybody out. But when

115
00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,320
Speaker 1: you're sitting there and you're two and eight football team

116
00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,760
Speaker 1: and you're going through difficult times, especially when you know

117
00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,920
Speaker 1: that you need to aid a young quarterback, those are

118
00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,640
Speaker 1: catches that you have to make in order for your

119
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,800
Speaker 1: football team to succeed, to stay on track and to continue,

120
00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,360
Speaker 1: like I said, in the first half of that football game,

121
00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,559
Speaker 1: to build momentum, because that game in the first half

122
00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,720
Speaker 1: should have been a blowout for the New York Giant,

123
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,400
Speaker 1: said every opportunity to calculate or capitalize on those, and

124
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,640
Speaker 1: they didn't. I'm not but I will say Golden made

125
00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,400
Speaker 1: up for it with that touch question No, because I'm

126
00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,520
Speaker 1: not gonna say it's the catch to oh, you know,

127
00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,400
Speaker 1: to David Dyree. However, fourth and eighteen, fourth and nineteen,

128
00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Eli under immense pressure gets it off and he goes

129
00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 1: up and makes that catch. That was a great play,

130
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,920
Speaker 1: I said Daniel Jones. I've always thought about to Tyree,

131
00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:29,040
Speaker 1: but really, you know, Paul and I said this yesterday. Look,

132
00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 1: they drafted Daniel Jones because everything that they liked about him,

133
00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,600
Speaker 1: his talent, his smartness, his skills, everything else. One thing

134
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,440
Speaker 1: you don't know is somebody's tough. You you can see things,

135
00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240
Speaker 1: but you don't know until he's there, because college and

136
00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,680
Speaker 1: the pros are different. His resiliency and his toughness. First

137
00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,560
Speaker 1: of all, to me, resiliency, you're you're the player. Resiliency

138
00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 1: and toughness. I don't care what position. That's not something

139
00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,920
Speaker 1: you can be taught. Either you have toughness, either you

140
00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,640
Speaker 1: have resiliency, or you don't. And he's definitely shown that.

141
00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,560
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this and lead him to handle

142
00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,840
Speaker 1: adversity and criticism that started the day that he got drafted.

143
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,960
Speaker 1: He's never never let it affect the way that he approaches,

144
00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,280
Speaker 1: the way that he plays, the way that he preparers,

145
00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720
Speaker 1: in the way that he practices. And you can see

146
00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,920
Speaker 1: it and That's why I was saying. When you have

147
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback that has the struggles or is going up

148
00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,400
Speaker 1: and down because of consistency and lack of ability to

149
00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,319
Speaker 1: run a football, those are all plays that your teammates

150
00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,600
Speaker 1: need to step up and make for you to make

151
00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,400
Speaker 1: that next step without question. All right, before we open

152
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,680
Speaker 1: up the phone lines, which again focuses to zero one three.

153
00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Got to remind you if you subscribe to the Giants

154
00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,480
Speaker 1: Audio podcast, please make note that beginning on December first,

155
00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,720
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live will have its own dedicated podcast,

156
00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,880
Speaker 1: so you can begin subscribing right now on Apple, pie Cast, Spotify,

157
00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,120
Speaker 1: Google Play, all your favorite podcast platform. Again, that's starting

158
00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,600
Speaker 1: December one, Big Blue Kickoff Live will no longer no

159
00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,840
Speaker 1: longer be available in the Giants Audio Podcast, so please

160
00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 1: subscribe to the Big Blue Kickoff Live podcast. You can

161
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920
Speaker 1: still watch or listen to the show on Giants dot

162
00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,080
Speaker 1: Com and the Giants App again to zero one five

163
00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,880
Speaker 1: one three. You don't want to give out your number?

164
00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,200
Speaker 1: Almost yesterday? Yeah, I mean, that's all I need to do.

165
00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880
Speaker 1: There's Russ's private cell phone number. Give him a call

166
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,640
Speaker 1: any time of days there for or my wife's taking

167
00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,360
Speaker 1: somebody wants to you're a moron. Thanks, honey. All right,

168
00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,520
Speaker 1: let's open up the phone lines. Let's go to Pennsylvania

169
00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,680
Speaker 1: and check in with Joe. Hello, Joe, how are we

170
00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,240
Speaker 1: doing today? You're on with Russ and Big David. Well wonderful.

171
00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,720
Speaker 1: Uh you know what I mean? Happy? Thanks, happy thanks now,

172
00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, but nope, hanging in there and up optimistic

173
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,760
Speaker 1: that maybe we can start showing some start getting to

174
00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,520
Speaker 1: win here or so, you know, because we're going to

175
00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,880
Speaker 1: get a top draft pick. I know I heard g

176
00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,040
Speaker 1: yes three rest they you know, uh, Daniel Jones taking

177
00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,920
Speaker 1: him hits and showing his toughness. I just hope you

178
00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160
Speaker 1: don't get hurt by one of them bad or so

179
00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240
Speaker 1: that's all. Well, you know what. I have thought about

180
00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:29,680
Speaker 1: that myself. But look it's part again exactly. Nobody knows

181
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,920
Speaker 1: better than this guy. And you know what, Joe, I'm

182
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,280
Speaker 1: not to cut you off, you know, no, let leave Joan.

183
00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to uh uh mentioned because you're reminded

184
00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,280
Speaker 1: me now uh injuries. Uh let's see say uh uh

185
00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:51,600
Speaker 1: not say kue um Evan Ingram did not practice today,

186
00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,520
Speaker 1: ramors did not practice today? And then you have um.

187
00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,120
Speaker 1: Actually I think Ellison did practice today. He didn't know

188
00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:08,000
Speaker 1: he didn't practice today. And Peppers peppers uh and also

189
00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,480
Speaker 1: Golden Tate UH concussion protocol. So I gotta tell you

190
00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,840
Speaker 1: once again, they're not gonna have Joe all hands on deck.

191
00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,880
Speaker 1: And in fairness to Daniel Jones, not once this season,

192
00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,400
Speaker 1: not once this season did he have a full complement

193
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,199
Speaker 1: of offensive weapons. Continue, Joe, Okay, I I was just

194
00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 1: gonna ask you at this stage here, you're David, if

195
00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,839
Speaker 1: you if you your top three, if you would want

196
00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,520
Speaker 1: to or not putting your top three positions, you would

197
00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520
Speaker 1: think we have to upgrade to get better. I know

198
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,480
Speaker 1: we're going to get a draft top draft pick, and

199
00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,439
Speaker 1: we always say go for the the best players no

200
00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,800
Speaker 1: matter what and what what positions. But could you, David,

201
00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,280
Speaker 1: would you have your top three places you'd like to

202
00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,000
Speaker 1: we upgrade on, you know, could you pick that out yet? Yeah? Russ,

203
00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,760
Speaker 1: if you want to give yours, well, I think yeah, yeah,

204
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,360
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be on the same boat. But

205
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,800
Speaker 1: you and I both talk the on the defensive side

206
00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,560
Speaker 1: of the ball, gotta have a rush. You gotta have

207
00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,120
Speaker 1: another edge rusher. We definitely need to get another linebacker.

208
00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,000
Speaker 1: And then for me, on the other side of the ball, offensively,

209
00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,000
Speaker 1: I would say another tackle, those would be the top

210
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,320
Speaker 1: three for me. Well, yeah, I agree with you, is

211
00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,360
Speaker 1: like I said, And I really think if we could

212
00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 1: get that run game going. You know, Daniel Jones proved

213
00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,439
Speaker 1: how tough he is he can throw the ball, and

214
00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,080
Speaker 1: our favor receivers have shown that that you know, they

215
00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,000
Speaker 1: can get there, you know, especially if they're given a

216
00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,520
Speaker 1: little more time, that they can get down the field

217
00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,200
Speaker 1: and put moves into you know, it's showing that there.

218
00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,200
Speaker 1: But we just haven't got the run game going. And

219
00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:00,000
Speaker 1: I think, like like I said, they're they're not uh

220
00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,080
Speaker 1: concentrating on the run where they could put maybe just

221
00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 1: their their front floor up against the run to stop

222
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,160
Speaker 1: it and uh the rest they can put back in

223
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, past protection. So and that's I really think

224
00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,079
Speaker 1: making it tougher on Daniel Jones in the offense and

225
00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,240
Speaker 1: definitely the defense, you know what I mean, They've got

226
00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 1: to get their act together, right. I don't understand them

227
00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,440
Speaker 1: some time, how lost they are, you know what I mean. Well, Joe,

228
00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,640
Speaker 1: thank you very much, have yourself a happy Thanksgiving. They

229
00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:36,000
Speaker 1: knew you guys, giants, you got it. You know. I'll

230
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,920
Speaker 1: give you one other position. You might agree, maybe you

231
00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,480
Speaker 1: don't agree, Um and listen. Slayton has certainly been I

232
00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,600
Speaker 1: find a real find this year. Another number one wide receiver,

233
00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,840
Speaker 1: without a doubt, a tall wide we we that's the

234
00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,319
Speaker 1: one thing outside of Slayton who looks much tallerant, bigger

235
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 1: on fielding his pads. Have you noticed that. I don't

236
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,559
Speaker 1: know what it is, but he looks six four six

237
00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,240
Speaker 1: five on the field compared to the six two six

238
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,160
Speaker 1: three that he really is. You know what I also think,

239
00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,720
Speaker 1: and you've heard this, some guys play big. Ye he

240
00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,720
Speaker 1: goes up and gets it. Oh, he wins. That's one

241
00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,640
Speaker 1: of the main reasons and why he had to hot

242
00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,120
Speaker 1: the tout that he had the ability to adjust midpoint

243
00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880
Speaker 1: the football at the highs point, all those things. But

244
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,640
Speaker 1: the one thing that you realize is outside of Slayton,

245
00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Shepherd, you look at Tate,

246
00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,200
Speaker 1: they're all pretty much sane body types style. You need

247
00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,680
Speaker 1: another bigger body that can win those fifty fifties and

248
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,800
Speaker 1: can board things up almost like boxing out in basketball

249
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,200
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. To get that other big body.

250
00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960
Speaker 1: So you think about getting another number one wide receiver

251
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,840
Speaker 1: with Slayton, Tate, Shepherd and Ingram that's a dynamic wide

252
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 1: receiving calls. Now, I I agree with you on that,

253
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,000
Speaker 1: but I think everybody agrees what the needs are. Uh.

254
00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,200
Speaker 1: And then there's the other question. You know, because um

255
00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,040
Speaker 1: what you needs are and you hear a lot of

256
00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,840
Speaker 1: times best athlete available, but because somebody has penciled in,

257
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this arguably as a great or you

258
00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,920
Speaker 1: know this lineback of school is available, but maybe we

259
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,800
Speaker 1: don't think or who who've doing a drafting doesn't think, yeah,

260
00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,080
Speaker 1: but we don't know if he's going to be that

261
00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,840
Speaker 1: good where at somebody another position. That's where it becomes yeah.

262
00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you want to you want to draft

263
00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,520
Speaker 1: and pick players that number one figure scheme two are

264
00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320
Speaker 1: the type of character players that you want, and three

265
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,640
Speaker 1: that haven't hit their peak point of potential and you

266
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920
Speaker 1: see that they where they can go. And the last

267
00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,960
Speaker 1: point of that is you're always looking at their ability

268
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,520
Speaker 1: of those players, what injuries have they had, what's the

269
00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,480
Speaker 1: return on investment, how many years are we going to

270
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,720
Speaker 1: get out of them? All of those things are broken

271
00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,120
Speaker 1: down when you do pick that player without question to

272
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920
Speaker 1: zero one five, one three is the number. Let's go.

273
00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,880
Speaker 1: Uh stay local in New York. Uh if it's I

274
00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,120
Speaker 1: don't know if it's New York City, but it is

275
00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280
Speaker 1: New York. It's Anathan. Hello Jonathan, Happy Thanksgiving your own

276
00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840
Speaker 1: with Russ and Big Dave. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving guys. Pleasure

277
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280
Speaker 1: to speak with you. Good. Are you local in New

278
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,400
Speaker 1: York or New York State? I'm in Westchester. Okay, that's

279
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,360
Speaker 1: local enough, So I'm college today. I heard Carl Banks

280
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Fame semifinalists, and I just wanted

281
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,360
Speaker 1: to tell everyone that I think he deserves to get in.

282
00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,360
Speaker 1: It's long overdue. Well, I it's hard for me to

283
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 1: comment on it. I'm friendly friends with with Carl. I'm biased,

284
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,120
Speaker 1: so I'm rooting my keys to who offered him to

285
00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,920
Speaker 1: get in. Carl know if it happens from an early

286
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,320
Speaker 1: on time. When I met Carl Banks, the first time

287
00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 1: that he met me, and when I started moving around positions,

288
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,960
Speaker 1: he said, you and I have so much alike because

289
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,120
Speaker 1: we are the Swiss Army Knives. Because he was the

290
00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,840
Speaker 1: same way, could play all the different positions. They'd moveing around,

291
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,320
Speaker 1: did all the dirty work, and you never heard Carl

292
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,960
Speaker 1: Carl complain about it once. Yeah, heck of a foot

293
00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,959
Speaker 1: will play a Johnson unbelievable arguments here. But you know,

294
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,520
Speaker 1: I wish I could say done deal, foregone conclusion that

295
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,920
Speaker 1: he's in. But I can't say that. And like I say,

296
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm biased. I just I just wanted to be in. Yeah,

297
00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,280
Speaker 1: I remember watching them in six. He was all over

298
00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,520
Speaker 1: the field. I just looked it up. I saw he

299
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000
Speaker 1: had a hundred and thirteen tackles in the regular season

300
00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 1: that year, and in the playoffs no one could block them.

301
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's one thing. The other thing I'm wondering.

302
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on all the concussions

303
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,280
Speaker 1: this year. It's just been crazy. I mean, I know,

304
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,040
Speaker 1: uh Tate. I think Tate actually had one in the preseason,

305
00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 1: so this would be his second. Shepherdess two, Latimer had one,

306
00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:50,639
Speaker 1: uh Wayne Gallman Ellison. Yeah, it's it's really more than

307
00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,000
Speaker 1: I can remember them having. So why did they get

308
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,800
Speaker 1: your take on want so many concussions this year? I think,

309
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, and then Dave can tell you his opinion.

310
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,200
Speaker 1: I I just think it's not just with the Giants,

311
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 1: mind you, I haven't seen that. I don't remember when

312
00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,440
Speaker 1: the Giants have been hit with all these rash of injuries,

313
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,120
Speaker 1: whether it's a concussion or not. I mean, you heard

314
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 1: me say about the offense. Not everybody's been in at

315
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,480
Speaker 1: one time. But with with all what happened with C

316
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 1: T E and and everything else, and the court rulings,

317
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 1: the court rulings and the money being paid out, now

318
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,679
Speaker 1: everybody is extremely careful. It's that's what it is. So

319
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing it much more than previous years.

320
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,159
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that I will say about this,

321
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 1: and this is the one thing that is completely different

322
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: compared to when I started in the NFL in two

323
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,040
Speaker 1: thousand and three until now, just the accessibility and understanding

324
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,880
Speaker 1: of what the injuries are the players. I remember back

325
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,399
Speaker 1: then you'd have like a little report, but you really

326
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 1: didn't know whether a player was up or down until

327
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,919
Speaker 1: game time right before because everybody kind of hit it

328
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 1: at that point. They didn't know. Now, I could be

329
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,240
Speaker 1: sitting there any time of day and I'll get an

330
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: alert on my app and it will give me a

331
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 1: full extent of every injury of every team, of every player.

332
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 1: That's something that we never had before. I think that

333
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 1: it's something that has happened. Obviously, concussions are a part

334
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 1: of sports, let alone football. I just think the amount

335
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: of attention and the amount of awareness that we have

336
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: of it now, it just brings more of it to

337
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 1: the forefront, just because we have that much more knowledge

338
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 1: with social media and everything that's out there. I was, Jonathan,

339
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking of it yesterday actually with

340
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: all this with the concussions, and not just concussions, but

341
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 1: even injuries. Now you get your injuries updated every day.

342
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 1: You get this and that I remember back you know,

343
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,439
Speaker 1: with with and I'm just paraphrasing, but back with uh

344
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: when Bill Parcels was was here. It was almost like

345
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 1: you'll know when I want to let you know. It

346
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 1: was kind of that attitude and and the other thing

347
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: that you have to take an account not only just

348
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: two injuries, but injuries throughout the NFL. What week is this?

349
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: It's week thirteen. This is when stuff starts piling up

350
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: and those injuries start coming to a forefront. And that's

351
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 1: why we always say in December, when we start seeing

352
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: teams make that push and make that press for the playoffs,

353
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: what do we usually say they got healthy at the

354
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: right time. Russ ye yep, and unfortunately giants aren't healthy. Jonathan,

355
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving to you, my friends, Thank you, thank you

356
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: for calling. Two zero one five one three is the number.

357
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: Gotta remind everybody. Big Blue Kickoff Live here, brought to

358
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 1: you by Corps Light to enter to win the Ultimate

359
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: v I P Game Day Experience courtesy of who else

360
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: but Corps Light. You want to text v I P

361
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: to Nino four six four. That's nine O four six

362
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: four for more details. All right, back to the phones,

363
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: Back to the people who drive this show in Jersey. Jason, Hello,

364
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: Jay's happy Thanksgiving? You're on with Russ and Dave. Hey, guys,

365
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: happy Thanks Skip and Jake. What's up my man? What

366
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: can we help you with? So? I know, you know

367
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: I called a couple of times. I'm not as popular

368
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: as you know, Mr what's his name? Charlie, But I

369
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, getting back to coaching,

370
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: and I know, guys, I know you don't have to

371
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: agree with I know your positions and uh it's understandable.

372
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: But you know, when you put a guy decision making,

373
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: let's just talk about God, did you you you take

374
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Golden Tape? He's not saying he's a

375
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: little guy, but he's smaller frame than your normal guys

376
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: that are on whine after in the slot. But let's

377
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: just say, and you put him at punt return. I

378
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: just think that that's just such a bad move when

379
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: you have a guy, a bigger guy like ja Bill Peppers.

380
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: And look, he must have heard me, because when I've

381
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: seen Golden Tape take that hit, I said, that's it.

382
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: He's going into protocol period period. He's not that type

383
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: of guy that could take a car like that. You

384
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: know what, The one thing I will say, Jason is

385
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: is that throughout his career, the one thing that you know, Golden,

386
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry your phone's breaking up, buddy, So thanks. Golden

387
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: Tate has shown the toughness throughout his ability and throughout

388
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: his career to take that big hit and get back

389
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: up from it. But when it's a helmet to helmet

390
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: blow and we saw his mouthpiece pop out of his mouth,

391
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: that's definitely something that you you know, is going to

392
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: affect him and hence why he's in the concussion protocol.

393
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: But having said that, you know that you don't want

394
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: to use your best players to be your pump. You

395
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: want to have specialists that that's all they're doing. But

396
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: right now, in the state of where they are at

397
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: this Giant's football team and the injuries and where the

398
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: roster is, they need to try to get as many

399
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: plays out of the return team as they possibly can.

400
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: And with doing that, they felt Golden Tat and Peppers

401
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: were the two guys that can get it done. Unfortunately,

402
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: for Tate it was right away he had the concussion

403
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: off of the return and then unfortunately for Peppers he

404
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: heard his hip after it. You take somebody the size

405
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: of David Deal here, put a helmet and I'm not

406
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: talking about this size. I'm talking about when he is

407
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: playing weight. You put that and a helmet on him,

408
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: and somebody go helmet the helmet. The way Golden Tate

409
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: was hit, his mouthpiece mouthpiece is going to pop out

410
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: just as easily. So again, back to Chicago we go.

411
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: Your hometowns are frequent caller Mark. Hello Mark, Happy Thanksgiving again,

412
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: my friend Seam you guys as well. Hey, this is

413
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: concussion Wednesday. That's what I wanted to talk about. Um,

414
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: I was at the game and I saw a Golden

415
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: take catch that pass right in front of me, and

416
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: I saw his uh hit the turf, So I don't

417
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: know whether he got the concussion or maybe the that

418
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: initial hit on the punt return was part of it.

419
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: But that touchdown catches where he actually, yes, from my understand,

420
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: suffered the concussion tent afterwards, and he was because you're right, Mark,

421
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: because after that hit he went into the tent and

422
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: was cleared and officially cleared by the independent advisor by

423
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, and then that secondary hit is the one

424
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: that did it right, So that to me raises a

425
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: question in my mind. Uh, equipment is so much better.

426
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: We also have heighten awareness of it and testing that

427
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: they do. But David, I was in the old Marshall

428
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: Fields once and I saw Dick Buckus's helmet and basically

429
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: it was it was a suspension helmet with two straps

430
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: of plastic in it and it had the big circle

431
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: in the remember those, Mark, but I remember those. It

432
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: has the circle with the elastic bands. I remember those. Yeah,

433
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: I had them in high school. So to me, when

434
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: you look at the equipment that they're wearing now, I

435
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: mean they're so streamlined. The shoulder pads are small. Nobody

436
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: you know guys used to wear those collars to prevent

437
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: whiplash and things like that. Do you think that maybe

438
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: because the shoulder pads are so small that that's why

439
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: they're getting concussions from impact on the turf, because that

440
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: turf on Sunday was not frozen, it was it was

441
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful Yeah. No. The one thing I will say

442
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: this is, you know it's funny that you know you

443
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: bring up the shoulder pads and you know a lot

444
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: of people where where that will wear those neck rols.

445
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I did because I had a tendency to get a

446
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: stinger from the hits and working inside on double teams

447
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: in the way that I did stuff. But to be

448
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: honest with you, because of the shoulder pads are smaller,

449
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make them less effective. Actually, a pad that probably

450
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: I would say of the giants wear, it's called X Tech.

451
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: It's a pad that has a military grade foam in

452
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: it that actually disperses it so even though it's smaller,

453
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: it's actually five times more rigid and it disperses the

454
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: blow and throughout the pad instead of just absorbing in

455
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: one area. In regards to helmets, obviously, the thing that

456
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: I always talk about is you have your helmet, it

457
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: fits right, You make sure that your chin strap is buckled.

458
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: But the thing that I would always do was in game,

459
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: I would make sure that I would inflate it more

460
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: because you're sweating your you know, your your your your

461
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: helmets moving. You want to make sure that that thing

462
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: is as secure and tight as possible. But when you're

463
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: do go down in your helmet hits whether it's the

464
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: grass or the turf, that's a lot of the times

465
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: where that concussion does come up. Yeah, I don't know.

466
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: I was just thinking of having largest shoulder pads would

467
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: prevent the helmet from hitting the turf is often No,

468
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: just think about it because it would be lower down

469
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: so it wouldn't actually stop it. Yeah, I mean helmet,

470
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: the helmet it Listen, We've been saying it since the beginning.

471
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: Football is what like a hundred years old, the violence sport.

472
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: It's a violent sport. Thanks for the call, Marco, Thanks Thanksgiving.

473
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to zero one five, one three is the number

474
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: I met Mark last year. Mark drove up from Chicago.

475
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: He went last year when we were doing the week

476
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: of scrimmaging up against the Lions and then played him

477
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He came up, got to meet him.

478
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: And what a nice Giants fan. It's a really good fan,

479
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: really good fan, all right, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie up in Portland, Maine. Hey,

480
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving once again, Charlie. That's the reason I called.

481
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: I just want to wish you and Dave and and

482
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: everybody and all Giants fans, the listeners to b b

483
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: K have a grateful, grateful Thanksgiving. Thank you, Charlie, you

484
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: as well, my man. And I am so happy that

485
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Giants aren't playing on Thursday night because I would get indigestion.

486
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: You see, Charlie. I was gonna say, I was gonna say,

487
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: got a little a little twist, a little thing, but

488
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Charlie made sure to let us know. He's happy tomorrow.

489
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie. Happy Thanksgiving, buddy, that's great. I gotta

490
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: get this this little woman. But it's called the K. Yeah,

491
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: here we go. Tune zero one four or five one

492
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: three is the number. Hey, folks, you don't laugh. Let's

493
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: go up to Westchester and check in with Josh. Hello, Josh,

494
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and David. Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving, gentlemen.

495
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: So um David specific for you. The question on some

496
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: blocking specifics. When when I watch other teams, it seems

497
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: they match their blocking to the specific skills of their

498
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: running backs much better. And for example, you look at Minnesota,

499
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: you see Dalvin Cook. It seems like they were cut

500
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: blocking the edge and the second level regularly, and defenders

501
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: weren't totally taken out of the play, but they were

502
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: disruptive enough for the defender to not be in good

503
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: tackling position. You get these chunky runs, whereas I watched US,

504
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, we we we double, we pull, we try

505
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: and slip to the next level, try and get our

506
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: hands on the guy, and our defenders are are they

507
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: get shedded or worse? We just flat out miss? I mean,

508
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: who is responsible for the concepts on these running place?

509
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Is that the O C for that level of detail?

510
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Is that the O line coach? I mean, don't you

511
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: see it disconnect between the line play and what are

512
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: running back? Well? Well, obviously when it comes to the

513
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: way that they block it up front in regards to

514
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: the techniques and fundamentals, that's on the offensive line coach.

515
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: The way that they scheme it, that's from the offensive coordinator.

516
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: So those two have to go hand in hand in harmony.

517
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that you realize

518
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: is that when you were just talking about the Minnesota Vikings,

519
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: their coaching staff and their offensive line coach is actually

520
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: the one that came from Denver. I don't know if

521
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: you remember the name. His names Rick Dennison. He taught

522
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: and coached all those years when Plumber was there. You know,

523
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: zone the front side, completely cut down the back side.

524
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: That's something that is known for. But that also comes

525
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: down to coaching style and the way that he teaches

526
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: and coaches those techniques to his player. I wasn't taught

527
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: that way in the zone running scheme by Pat Flaherty

528
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: or by Harry Eastand who was my offensive line coach

529
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: in college. Those weren't the schemes that I taught or

530
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: were taught. And also I was never a good cutter

531
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: at six seven. To be able to go from high

532
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: to low to try to chop through a thighboard, that

533
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: was never my game. I wanted to look somebody in

534
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: the eye and hit him right that square in the face.

535
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: That was my style of play. But the one thing

536
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: that I I've talked about and I've talked about it

537
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: this entire season, and I know you've heard me say

538
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: this is that when you do run an inside zone

539
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: running scheme, you've got to do things to diversify it.

540
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: You've got to do things where you're testing the edges

541
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: of a defense, where you're sealing them and you're edging

542
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: it at the point of attack, and get some of

543
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: those plays to the outside to force a defense to

544
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: wide it out. And then also you've got to run

545
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: deception off of it. We've seen it out of this

546
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Giant's team, whether it was the Slaton reverse or the

547
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: double reverse to Tate in the Dallas game, or the

548
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: reverse and the one by Shepherd this game. Those were

549
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: all successful plays that were all off script, all off balance.

550
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Now use those to out leverage a defense by making

551
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: sure that you use that deception. So now all of

552
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: a sudden you had that successful jet sweeper the reverse.

553
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden you fake it, their eyes

554
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: go to it. And then now you run zone schemes

555
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: off of that, or play action passing off of it,

556
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: because all you're looking for is those linebackers to take

557
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: that deep step up if it's play action passing game,

558
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: or for those linebackers to have that split second hesitation

559
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: with the rise to allow your double teams to get

560
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: up to the second level. Those are all things that

561
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: need to be incorporated into the zone running scheme. To zero, one, five, one,

562
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: three is the number. Thank you for the call of Josh,

563
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: and now let's go UH local again in Jersey and

564
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: checked in with Jason. Hello, Jason, how are we doing? Happy? Thanks?

565
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: I lost you before, but I won't I won't take

566
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: much time. I just want to say that do you

567
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: think if they make a change, you don't think that

568
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: this would be a candidate to be No, No, David.

569
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: The only reason why I say that Jason has I

570
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: know Carl, I've known him for almost twenty years right now.

571
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: He loves what he's doing and in order to do that,

572
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: to make that transition, it's one thing doing it from

573
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: what we're doing. And it's a different thing when baseball

574
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: UH analysts now are jumping to managers. It's a different

575
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: thing when we're talking about the game of football. I

576
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: get that he can lead fifty three men. I know

577
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: that he knows the x's and knows about football, but

578
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: directing and leading a team when you haven't been in

579
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: a coaching system and to be able to expect to

580
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: jump right to it. I mean, that's just unrealistic. I

581
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: love the thought process of it. I mean, who wouldn't

582
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: love to think here and said, hey, look at Carl

583
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Banks is the head coach of the Giants. It sounds great,

584
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: and I know that it sounds perfect, but you got

585
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: to think of the sheer fact that he hasn't been

586
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: a player or a coach that has gone through the

587
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: full regiment in order to do that. And Jason, you

588
00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: gotta re you just went through a methodically and the

589
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: way you did it with not even so I don't know, man,

590
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: you mean you're talking about old line playing, the zone

591
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: running schemes, Jason. I mean, that's one thing this profession

592
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: I know, and that's and I would sit here and

593
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: tell you, Jason, I guarantee I can jump in and

594
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: coach old line right now without his single hesitation or

595
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: blink of it. But now to sit here and think

596
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: that I can jump to be a head coach without

597
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: going through situational football, that's a whole different thing. That's

598
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, Jason. And Jason again, Jays, you

599
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: gotta remember one other thing which is very very very

600
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: important and what it could be called Banks. It could

601
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: be David Deal, it could be anybody. It could be Jason,

602
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: it could be Russ. You gotta want to put in

603
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: all that time because being a head coach, hey, it's

604
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: thriving the morning till eleven at night. Okay, And you

605
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: know so there's so many other factors. But you know,

606
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I listen, love call, and more important, I love to

607
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: see him get into the Hall of Fame. But I

608
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: don't think head coach at the Giants or any other

609
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: team for that matter, is in his future because if

610
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: it was, he would have wanted to step on the

611
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: field already and being and would have done it through

612
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: like a linebacker, coach, a coordinator to do this exactly.

613
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: Thanks for thank you, Happy Thanksgiving, Jay, thanks for calling. Yeah,

614
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: and I agree, like I said, I think that he obviously,

615
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, Carlin knows the game. He watches it like

616
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: I do. He's a student of it. He can digest

617
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: things right away. But to expect to jump from just

618
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: doing this to head coach number one, to go through

619
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: those rinks and not have to earn it, because that's

620
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: not something that you're just giving. You have to earn

621
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: the right through the rinks to get that position. But

622
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: then to the situation of football doing all that stuff,

623
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: You've got to make sure that you have a level

624
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: head and you've gone through game experience in order to

625
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: be able to do it at a high level. And

626
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: remember this, I've always said this, the most team oriented

627
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: sport is football, without a doubt, not nothing's close, and

628
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: without any doubt it is is football. It's also managing

629
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: far more you know, men, personalities, just no, I just God, listen,

630
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: love call, but you know that I don't see. Uh.

631
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: Let's go up to Kingston. I'm I'm assuming that's Kingston,

632
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: New York, and check in with Bernie. Bernie, how are

633
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: you doing? Not too bad? How are you guys? I

634
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: was hoping he was in Kingston, Jamaica and getting some

635
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: warm weather. That's what I was hoping for. But i'd

636
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to ran for about a couple of minutes

637
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: and then then let you guys coming. Well, let we'll

638
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: let you lay down on the couch, Bernie and get

639
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: it all out. Go ahead, buddy, Okay. I've been a

640
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: fan since in nineteen fifty three, so I've seen an

641
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: awful lot of giant teams, an awful lot of games

642
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, this is the worst team

643
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: that I've seen since back to the seventies. And you

644
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: know how bad it was in the seventies, And I

645
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: got to make this observation. A roster is probably i

646
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: would say mediocre. It's not great, it's not terrible. It's

647
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: kind of medio. We've got some really good people, we've

648
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: got some journeyman people, we've got some people that are

649
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: not so great. Good coaching makes a mediocre roster competitive.

650
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: Bad coaching makes a medio mediocre roster into what we

651
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: have right now. I think the problem with us is coaching.

652
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: The coaching is terrible. The team is not prepared, they're

653
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: not motivated, they're not trained. It's like what it's like

654
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: watching the Chinese fire drill out there. Well, Bernie, Bernie,

655
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree on one point. When you say

656
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: they're not motivated, that's wrong because they are motivated. And

657
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go point to also on another point, I'm

658
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: going to point to I'm not the ex player, David

659
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: Deals the ex player. David just said today, how many

660
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: times have you watched that practice and you came to

661
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: me and said, man, they look really good today. It's

662
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: a good pice. I mean, I wish I had the answer, Bernie.

663
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I wish I had the answer. At the coaches wishes

664
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: they had the answer on Friday. Everything is looking great

665
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays and Thursday. Then you get for whatever reason,

666
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: that happens. Right. But you know, there's a real attitude problem.

667
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: And I think it's the coaching staff. And I think

668
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: it's built as a role team. What's the attitude problem?

669
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Every time I listened to Shermer and one of his

670
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: news conferences, it's always, oh, we're almost there. We just

671
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: need to fix a few things and then we're going

672
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: to be terrific. We're really a great team. We're just

673
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: doing it. We're just screwing up in a couple of

674
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: areas that was built ourselves. Ourselves will get up there

675
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: and say this team. Hold on one second, Bernie, let me,

676
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: let's let's make a comparison here. Number one, Bill wasn't

677
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: saying that his first year when they were three and

678
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: uh and and he almost got fired. That's number one.

679
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: Number two, you gotta understand this, and that's why the

680
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: players on that team all stand behind uh Pat Shermer.

681
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember this, whether Pat Shermer is disappointed

682
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: in the players or a said player or this guy

683
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: or this unit. He's gonna tell them behind closed doors.

684
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna know about it behind closes. When he gets out,

685
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: he's not gonna say, well, you know no, this young

686
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: guys thinks he's stupid. You can't do this. It just

687
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: does Bernie, God love you. It doesn't work that way.

688
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: And you know what, the minute the minute of coach

689
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: does that, he's gonna lose the team. Now. Look conversely,

690
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: like Bill Parcels. Like Parcels used to say, once you

691
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: got some pelts up on your wall, then you can

692
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: say and do what you want to earn. But if

693
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: you don't, if you haven't done that, Bill pusselves, what

694
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: what the've been talking like that? Bernie? If he didn't

695
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: have his Super Bowl? So thank you for the call.

696
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: I have a happy Thanksgiving. But you know that's where

697
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I got to disagree with you on that you have

698
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: to have And you want to know what you can

699
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: say that about the guy now who's considered the best

700
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: of all time, Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick couldn't act the

701
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: way he acts if he wasn't winning. The aloofness of

702
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: this and that they wouldn't allow him to get away

703
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: with it. Could you imagine him doing a press conference

704
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: if he didn't have any trophies like that, No, he

705
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: couldn't do That's the point, you know, every it's very

706
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: easy to point to the guys who won, who can

707
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: say this guy stinks, that guy sucks, he's no good.

708
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: When you when you have, as Bill used to say,

709
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: the pelts on the wall, it's a little bit different,

710
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Let's go down to Charlotte check

711
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: in with Steve. Steve happy thanksgiving your own with Russ

712
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: and Dave. Happy Happy Turkey to you. Um, I just

713
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: feel like we don't have an identity right now. You know,

714
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: you look at John Steves in the past, you know

715
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: again like a previous college just said you can go

716
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: from you can go from Bill Posters and even go

717
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 1: up to Tom Conflin. You know, the guys didn't agree

718
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: with him as what his first year or two there

719
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: had a little bit of separation in the locker room.

720
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: But they brought in. Everybody bought in, and how did

721
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: we Why did people buy in? That's the big Steve

722
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: I want why did people buy in? They brought in

723
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: because I mean coach had a he had a history

724
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: behind them. No, no, no, no, no no no, Steve,

725
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: You're you're not answering the question why didn't you know?

726
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: But Steve? Why did Steve? Steve, when a coach comes in,

727
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with their past. Why did

728
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: players on the roster that I was on and the

729
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: teams that I were on after the beginning of the

730
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: big push off of the five minutes early and all

731
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: the rules that went along with it, when did it

732
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: all change? Steve? I think it was probably year year three,

733
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: middle year two, year three. Those they bought in and

734
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: why I'm asking actually adjusted a little bit. That wasn't

735
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: that wasn't until that wasn't until oh seven. Steve, I'm

736
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: asking you in the beginning, why do players change and

737
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: adapt and adjust because we started winning football games? Because

738
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: we started winning, Steve, when you start getting the results

739
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: on Sunday, that's when people started buying in. Until you

740
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: get the results that you can't act that way. So Okay,

741
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, stay appreciate it. I know I

742
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: don't think Steve, what was listening. I've said this from

743
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: oh three when I first started, which was Jim Fossil's

744
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 1: last year. Think about a fifty three man roster. Coach

745
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Coughlan takes over in OH four. By the time that

746
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: we got to oh five out of that fifty three

747
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: man roster and oh three and two thousand and five,

748
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: there were thirteen of us left out of fifty three.

749
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: Went by by so long fail gone within two years.

750
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: And then in that season, what do you know, We

751
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: changed the culture of our locker room. We changed the

752
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: way that we were playing and how disciplined we were

753
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: in football games. We started winning football games. And then

754
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's wait, there's a method to

755
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: the madness Russ. All these details that he has us

756
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: paying attention to, about being early, about going crazy and

757
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff on players, by having those emotions

758
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: up and down, it started to click in when we

759
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: won football games. That's when it started to change. Before that,

760
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what he said to the media, it

761
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: didn't matter how he responded to him. Why because we

762
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 1: weren't winning. When we started winning games. And when Coach

763
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Coughlan started opening up and started the leadership committee in

764
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven after we lost in the wild

765
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: card and O six, that was a complete transformation of

766
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: our locker room and coach cough because at that point

767
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: we knew that we had a great foundation of a

768
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: football team. We had captains, we had leaders of the team,

769
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: to where at this point I don't have to micro manage.

770
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: I can put you guys in charge. These are the

771
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: things that we need to do this week. These are

772
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: the things that we need to get done in practice,

773
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: because if they don't the A blank blake h O

774
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: l E. Tom was gonna come back, and that was

775
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: plain and simple. But you can't move to that point

776
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: until you start getting the results. No, I mean, listen,

777
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: I watched it, you played through it. Yeah, you know,

778
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's really and that's where the that's where

779
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: the same came. Either you're going to be a part

780
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: of the solution around here, or you are the problem

781
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: and you will not be here. You know, people they

782
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: forget the two and four teens in the first year

783
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: of Bill Walls. They forget the one in third teams.

784
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I've gone I've gone six and I went four and twelve.

785
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: You lost seven in a row, lost seven, lost eight

786
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: in a rate, and in the first six have one season.

787
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: So you know it happens nobody likes it. Quite frankly,

788
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: it sucks living through it, watching it broadcast and get

789
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: talking about it. You know, nobody's happy about it. It

790
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: is what it is. Let's go to Hackett Sack nearby

791
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Chicken with Russell. Russell, you're on with Russ and Dave.

792
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: How we're doing? Happy Thanksgiving? You two guys love the show, um, Russ,

793
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: you might remember this. In nine, when George Young was

794
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: the general manager, he hied Ray Perkins as head coach,

795
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: and when the media asked Young why he hired Perkins,

796
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: he said, I wanted to head coach. You made the

797
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: players feel uncomfortable about losing. Guys. I don't want to

798
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: jump on the whole coaching thing, but boy, we look

799
00:44:52,120 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable losing right now. Uh again, listen, Uh, I

800
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: would disagree with that only because I see how miserable

801
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: they are about the losses everybody. And when I say miserable,

802
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: they're not walking around like woe's me. But for lack

803
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: of a better term than piste off, you feel it.

804
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: When you have so much invested, you feel it. You

805
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: know why, Russ and I get where you're coming from.

806
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: When you're losing and and it's two and your two

807
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: and nine and you lost seven games in a row.

808
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: Think about it for a second, you me, Dave, all

809
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: the fans, everybody in the building, the players, looking in

810
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: the mirror themselves. It's hard to look at stuff to say, oh,

811
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: this is great. Yeah, you know it is, you know what.

812
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Excuse me. The one clear thing that and this is

813
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: not Chamber of Commerce bs, but as a coach and

814
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: a general manager, you have to have the you know

815
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: what's to not succumb to the pressure of what other

816
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: people are saying and to do what you believe in.

817
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: Let me tell you it took a fair bit of

818
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: guts to do the move that Pat Sherman did by

819
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: replacing Eli Manning. He replaced a legend, He replaced a

820
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: Hall of fame, a future Hall of Fame quarterback. Believe me,

821
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: that was difficult. You might you know, it's every easy

822
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: to write about it or to talk about it. That

823
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: was He's the guy who had to do it. That's difficult.

824
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: That's not that's that's some sap. That's doing that. You know,

825
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: if winning was easy, everybody would be doing it. And

826
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: the one thing that I will say is is that

827
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: even as tough as this season has been for everybody,

828
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: and I've been a part of it. Like I just said,

829
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: I've been on a part of a team that lost

830
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: seventh straight, eight straight, all those things. But you know

831
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: what I learned from those seasons. Who are the guys

832
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: that were accountable? Who are the guys that I could

833
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: look at in the locker room and it didn't matter

834
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: of the circumstance. They were coming out swinging and fighting

835
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: for me, just like I did for them. And you

836
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: know what, those were the guys who managed to stay

837
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: on the football team and managed to be a part

838
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: of those super Bowl teams and managed to be different

839
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: makers because of that resolve, because of their ability to

840
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: compete no matter what the odds or whatever was stacked

841
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: against them. And when you start having seasons like this,

842
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that you realize is that nobody's

843
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: going to get us out of this except for us

844
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: in this building, for us on the practice field. And

845
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: they're the ones that can control the way that they

846
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: move forward, the coaching staff, the players, and that's what

847
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: we need to see. We need to see the way

848
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: that they respond, they come out and play these last

849
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: five games to figure out who's going to be a

850
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: part of this, who is not going to be a

851
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: part of it, and what we need to do to

852
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: get back to that championship culture. You know, Russell, I

853
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: sat down with Julian Love, you know, before I before

854
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I came in here. And you know, Julian is the

855
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: youngest guy on the Giants. He's all the one years old.

856
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: That was me, my rookie years years old. And I

857
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: asked them, you know, a guy comes from a big time,

858
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: legendary program. Uh. And I asked him about the losing,

859
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: and he said, it doesn't matter if you're a rookie,

860
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: if you're an old grizzled veteran. Nobody in the building

861
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: is happy about the losing and nobody is walking around

862
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: just taking it. Ladi dah. It's serious business. This is

863
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: how you support your families. This is your livelihood. This

864
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: is what you play for. But you gotta keep going

865
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: at it, fighting through it. And you're right. He is

866
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: a terrific great you know. And and it would listen

867
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: for for you know, his first extended play out of

868
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: the game. Thank you for the call, Russell happy Thanksgiving

869
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: for his first extended you know, he had himself a

870
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: good footfall. He definitely did. I mean, you love the

871
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: fact that number one, Yes, versatile. We saw that all

872
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: throughout training camp, throughout the preseason. His ability and is

873
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: not only that but just football like you, with ability

874
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: to step up and play all those different positions. But

875
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: talk about rising to the challenge in his hometown. He

876
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: grew up in the outside of Chicago like I did.

877
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: For him to step up, not miss beat and make

878
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: a big play when they needed to says a lot

879
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: about him in his perform Not only uh doing in

880
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: front of his hometown, he also went back home with

881
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: a pretty heavy heart. Yeah, and two of his best friends,

882
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: his best friends from childhood, tragically killed in a car accident.

883
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: And you know, there he is playing in front of

884
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: family and friends and getting this first interception of his

885
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: career unbelievable. I mean it was, you know, he he's

886
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: made it the right stuff. And you know, people kept wondering, well,

887
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: when are we gonna see Julian, When are we going

888
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: to see Julian. They felt the time was right to

889
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: see Julian, So we got to see him at the

890
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: right time. And you know what, he showed up at

891
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: the right time. Let's go down in Virginia Mike's been

892
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: waiting patiently. Thank you for waiting, Mike. Happy thanksgiving your

893
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: own with Russ and Dave, Hey having friends, giving gentlemen,

894
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: no fuss for us, the real deals. Then a little

895
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: while since I called them, what's up, man, how are

896
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: you all right? I'm okay, man. You know it's it's

897
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: it's going a little struggle watching us these past couple

898
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: of years. To be honest, then, but you know, hey,

899
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: the TV always just turned on, and I'm always glad

900
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: to watch it, but it's a struggle. I don't understand,

901
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Like I just honestly don't see the growth. I know

902
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: what's gonna take a little while, but it's like we

903
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: we regretted from last season, and and it's the I'll

904
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: touch on defense. The blown assignments that you see on defense.

905
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand if that's the coaching or the the

906
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: players not understanding what they're doing. But either way, something

907
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: has to change. If if if unfortunately, you know, if

908
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: if Baker doesn't understand what he's doing, put somebody else

909
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: in there that does. Maybe that person might lack the talent,

910
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: but at least they understand the scheme. So I mean,

911
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: there has to be some kind of change. I just

912
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: really don't get it, Like like we upgraded the line

913
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: and we are horrible with run blocking. I just I

914
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: just don't I'm lost right now, felt like I really am.

915
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: We we benched Eli after two games. Now there was

916
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: um the who there was one player that Eli did that.

917
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: I said to myself, Eli is playing in that army strong.

918
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: He shook off a sack I think it was against Dallas.

919
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: He put his hand down on the ground, We gained

920
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: his balance and threw a bullet down the left side

921
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: line to Lattimer and it was just like, you know what,

922
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Eli got it back. He's there, he's playing, And it

923
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like that. I mean, Shermer brought in

924
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: with the Eli and it just really didn't seem like

925
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: that to to bench him after two games. Put Daniel Jones,

926
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: and I just don't get it. Mike, let me ask

927
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: you a question. You haven't you haven't seen anything positive

928
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: out of Daniel Jones? Oh no, no, no, no, no,

929
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: yes I have. But I just don't see the team

930
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: grew well, Mike, as I just said, we'll listen, we're

931
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: up against it now, so we've got to get a

932
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: few other calls in thank you for the call, Mike Happy, Thanksgiving? Um,

933
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: But what are the things that help him with his growth?

934
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Quan catching that third down? God to take catching that

935
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: third down? The games before those drops are crucial when

936
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about a young quarterback who needs to get

937
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: a temple and a fast start and success early in

938
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: football games. And listen, anybody who's listen. I say it

939
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: with myself, I say it with Paul. I'm certainly gonna

940
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: say it with this guy here, none of us. There

941
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: are no bigger fans of Eli Manning than us. But

942
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: to me, if you don't see the growth and what's

943
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: come out of Daniel Jones, then you're really not watching it.

944
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. You can criticize a million and

945
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: one things, but if you can't see the growth in

946
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the toughness I mean that, then you're

947
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: not being fair to Daniel Jones or the Giants or

948
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: that decision. Yeah, fair enough, All right, we got a

949
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: couple of minutes left. Let's go to our old buddy

950
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: down to Columbia, Maryland, lenn n. We only got a

951
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: little bit of time. So what do you got for us, Buddy, Happy, Happy,

952
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to you. Just just just great show, day after day,

953
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: year week after week, year after year. Have been with

954
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: it from the start, going on ten years. Just just

955
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: a great show. We're lucky as Sciants fans to have

956
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: this show. Uh Russ, I just want to I want

957
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: to disagree with you. I'm one thing, one thing you

958
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: got wrong. I'm I'm Elie's bagest fan. Okay, I'm just

959
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: kidding you. I know, but you know I'm a big fan.

960
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: And uh, I was shaking in my head when that

961
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: last caller was talked saying what he was saying. I'm

962
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: not gonna go much further than that, and you guys

963
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of stole my thunder. You talked about when I

964
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about winning, David, you were beautiful. I mean,

965
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: you talked about winning, Russ. I listened to yesterday's show

966
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: this morning and you started talking about listening. Bottom line

967
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: this level, you gotta win. I mean, you can't lose

968
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: seven games in a row. You, I mean, you guys

969
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: are right on with that. And you know I'm I'm

970
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: I live around Ravens fans. I mean a guy in questions,

971
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: see a guy delivers. My man Well always said I'm jealous, guys.

972
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Russ David. You know every day

973
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: I faced these Ravens fans and they got a great team.

974
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm jealous, buddy, I'm Joe. Well. I want to get today.

975
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: I want to get to that level. Let's go giants.

976
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: You guys have a great day. Everybody, stay healthy. I'm

977
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving. You know what Well said, Happy Thanksgiving to

978
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: you and yours and really, um call it a cliche

979
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: if you want, but listen, that is the most important

980
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: that you know what to get a kick out of.

981
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: I get a kick out of when my pal has

982
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: gotta rush out of here because he's got to pick

983
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: up his daughter to take her to practice. Yeah, I'm serious. Yeah,

984
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: you know, those are the little things that we lose

985
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: sight of when we're all piste off about our team's

986
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: record and this and that, and those are all the

987
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: little things that we take for granted. That was one

988
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: of the greatest feelings in the world coming home after

989
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: a game, whether it was a great win or a

990
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: tough loss. And it was the same daddy running towards

991
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: the door to give you a big They don't give

992
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: a ratspetuity about to score until they get older. And

993
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: that's when I came home from a road game. I

994
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 1: forget where you're at. I came home and Addison's like Daddy,

995
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: you guys scored no points. And like Addison, it was

996
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: a tough game. You know, we didn't play so well.

997
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't get it. No points, he could understand. We

998
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: got shut out. No, really, you know, that's that's just

999
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: the way it's kids, And I mean it's it's the

1000
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: little things you take for granted. And I'm not trying

1001
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: to be schmaltz you here, but it is, you know, Thanksgiving,

1002
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Enjoy the Thanksgiving, have yourselves

1003
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: a good time with the family. Hopefully the Giants can

1004
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: get it together. To say this Sunday at MetLife is

1005
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna be tough would be a big time understatement. It

1006
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers, it is the Green Bay Packers. But

1007
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: gotta keep forging ahead. You can't. You can't look behind

1008
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: you gotta keep looking straight ahead. Right now, that is

1009
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: a rap on our at least my Thanksgiving show. Our

1010
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: thanks to Dan Salomone across the way, my big man,

1011
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: my buddy, you're here, Uh David deal, I'm Russ Salisburg,

1012
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Gonn a big time thanks to you people. Because we'reut

1013
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: you people, we'd have nobody here to talk. A lot

1014
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: of good callers today, a lot of good conversations, happy

1015
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: and healthy Thanksgiving to all of you. And I'll see

1016
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: you people next week.