WEBVTT - Hit Piece 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.600 Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.840 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.400 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.040 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.919 crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the rich 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:26.000 pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House of Hot 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.720 takes break free for something special. The fifth Hour with 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:34.519 Ben Maller starts right now that it does. The weekend 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:39.760 is here. We are eating the air everywhere coast to coast, 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.240 border to border and beyond the power of podcasting eight 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.760 days a week now because four hours or not enough 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:51.720 on the overnight. And this is a special, not interview, 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.880 but we like having people we we somewhat know or 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.440 fans of on the podcast. And so I am joined 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.880 yet again by David gascon West of the four oh five. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.040 He's right over there and he's with this again as 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.000 he is most weekends. Almost every weekend. I don't think 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.199 you've missed a show, so that would be every weekend. Yeah. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.000 I'd like to to give a special shout out to 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:22.040 UH to myself. Uh, it's my anniversary, right, it's Uh. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.480 I didn't know you were married. Yeah, no idea. I 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.760 wasn't invited to the wedding. You know what, Uh, you 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.520 were on the record this time last year when you 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:39.039 said that David Gascon will be the Andrew Luck of 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.200 this podcast. I will abruptly just quit and leave in 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.039 the middle of the year. And I have now made 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:52.960 it one year graduation podcast. Give me another fucking round 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.760 of applause. Wow, what a deuce. Tend you the deuces 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.440 right there? Let me do you know what. I'm gonna 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.760 give you a golden ticket. Congratulations, you get it all 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.280 the ticket, And I'm gonna give you a lifetime supply 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.800 of nothing, which I think this podcast is providing you. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.360 So you gotta lifetime supply of nothing and a trip 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.800 to nowhere round trip to nowhere, and that is void 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.360 is long. It's only eligible until Nowhere, Oklahoma opens up 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.960 an airport, and then it's no longer, no longer available. Well, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.920 I'm happy to report though, that when I go on 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.480 this trip to nowhere, I'm gonna bring three suits with me. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.720 My my regular three piece suit, my hazmat suit, and 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:35.480 now because of California. I will also bring my fire suits. Yes, yes, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.040 you know, as a little kid, I wanted to be 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.920 Like every little kid, you want to be a police officer, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.680 and then you want to be a fireman and vice 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.360 versa and when you're a little kid, and so I 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.320 want to be a fireman at one point. And now 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.240 like I'm surrounded by fire. I am surrounded. It is 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.720 raining ash from the heavens. The sky is orange. It 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.040 looks like we've moved to Mars. It is it is wild. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.280 Is crazy living in California these days, and the you 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.560 can't go anywhere, everything's burning. It's you pay outrageous taxes. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.840 It's really paradise, it really is. It's just the greatest 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.320 place on earth, California. We get buildings on fire because 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:15.600 of protests, peaceful protests. We have city is on fire 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.520 because of gender reveals. Um, like, what else could go 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.040 wrong in this fucking aar Uh. We don't ask gascon 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.919 don't ask, because we can get that that that could 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.640 that could come here soon. Uh yeah, all those your pills, Yeah, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.880 you got your pills. There you go, you're you're ready 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.840 to go. Wow. All right, So before we get to 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.440 the man of the hour here that's in the center square. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.160 We're excited about this. I am really fired up because 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.520 one of my my, my favorite people in radio and 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.880 a former colleague of mine. I'm so happy that I 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.160 know him as a friend. Uh And so we'll have 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.840 Tony Bruno on in a minute. But Cameo dot com, 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:01.360 gascon Cameo dot com, you want a personal shout out. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:02.960 Let me tell you something. One of the coolest things 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.240 happened to me in the last week. And I've not 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.960 talked about this at all. I didn't mention it on 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.120 the radio show and all that. Uh. So on Cameo, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:19.839 I got a very special cameo request. It's about ten 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.680 days ago or so now, and I didn't bring it up. Uh. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:28.839 And it was from from Jason and Morgan. And Morgan 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.760 Jason is a big fan of show, and Morgan's like, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.800 you know, she puts up with it. Uh And then Jason, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.200 I guess they have a They have a baby coming, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:42.760 a miracle baby, a girl. And I got to give 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:47.080 Jason the news via cameo. How cool is this? That was? 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.320 That's like a great honor, that's a tremendous honor to 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.400 have that that that that Morgan would would pick me 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.600 and it was really cool. I I really didn't want 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.080 to funk that one up because that's a big one. Um, 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.400 when you find out you're gonna have a dot and 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.200 I'll be a girl dad and all that is so cool. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.440 So I was really that was that was like the 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:07.800 neatest thing that I've been able to do with Cameo 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.320 was really neat. Now you should temper your excitement because 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.200 now that you've done that, you're probably gonna get someone 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.560 from the Mallard Militia that's ready to have a baby 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.719 and they'll probably call you while giving birth. Yeah, well 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.560 there you go. Well that see that I can only 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:25.960 do on the radio. You can do that. I have 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.680 had guys over the years that have called up and uh, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.680 you know and announced while smoking the cigar that they 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.200 their child has arrived, which is which is neat. And 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.800 it's this guy in Phoenix that's been listening a long 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.800 time and I remember when he called that I was 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.919 gonna show with Jason Smith on the weekends in the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.760 early days of Fox Sports Radio, and he had his 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.240 first child was born and the kids now, like you know, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.760 nineteen or eighteen or nineteen years old. I'm like, holy crap, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.760 kids out of high school and I'm like, wow, that 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.760 is that? Yeah, but cameo dot com Ben Mally, you 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.760 want to personalized video shout out? I would love to 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.200 do it and it'd be great. We also have as well, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.119 guessing before we bring Tony in here. Uh, the Benny 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.720 Versus the Penny has moved over to YouTube and yeah, 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.160 we will put that on Facebook. It should be on there. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:17.760 If it's not, we'll make sure it's on there. And 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.520 and Twitter, and there's two ways. This is a test 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.280 guest count right because it it makes me so. So 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.559 the deal with this is a lot of you guys 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.839 have been saying I want to watch some video, and 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.359 I put out these little video vignettes for the radio show. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.159 But this is something different. This is a live video 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.080 like a television broadcast on the internet. To what you 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.200 two is and uh and so Benny versus the Penny, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.479 we're gonna test this out. We we had it on 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.800 the radio for years. I did it on the radio 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.679 for years. Last year we did it on the podcast 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.480 and we did very good numbers on the podcast. A 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.760 lot of people loved Benny Versus the Penny, So we 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.719 want to see how it'll do on the video format, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.800 and we'll it's a test, and you guys have been 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.160 a lot of you have been saying you wanted to 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.919 see some video stuff, So we're gonna test it out. Obviously, 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.279 today's the maiden voyage here on nine eleven of this 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.160 for week one, the Sunday Monday card in the NFL. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.800 But I'm excited. I want to see how this goes. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.240 And I gotta I got some new equipment in here 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.120 to to make it look good. So we'll see what works. Yeah, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.400 and don't forget last season to the first three weeks 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.120 you actually you would scorched earth no pun intendant, but yeah, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.600 you went eleven and five I think the first two, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.960 two or three weeks. Yeah, I did very well. This 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.880 is the hardest year, though, to handicap the NFL with 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.160 no real read on any just have the depth chart. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.440 You have no field exhibition and no home field advantage 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.240 at all. That's right, you can take you throw that out. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.880 So this is gonna be the hardest year ever. Hopefully 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.920 I will not drown. But could you imagine we finally 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.800 do the video thing and then I I go like 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.760 one one win for the weekend and something that's my nightmare. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.920 But we will see what happens. But enough about that. Yeah, 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.080 it's not about us. Yeah, it's not about us, guestcan 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.280 It is about the man of the hour, A legend, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.160 one of the forefathers of modern sports radio. If you're 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.320 a fan of sports talk radio, whether it's Fox Sports 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.960 Radio where I do, where I do my business, or 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.880 any of these networks, Tony Bruno is an o G. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.120 This guy started ESPN Radio when that network launched, and 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.160 then started Fox Sports Radio and Fox Sports Radio took off. Now, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.040 we had Tony on a couple of weeks ago, and 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.680 that was not it was a month ago, it was 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.160 a while, it was it was not that long ago. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.800 We had Tony on and he had launched he was 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:40.720 about to launch his serious XM radio show and it 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.560 was Tony Bruno Show with Harry May's a couple of 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.240 Philadelphia guys and they'd worked together in the past local 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.000 radio in Philadelphia and they do a good show together. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.400 And so, uh, Tony was excited about that. We were 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.120 excited for Tony. He's a friend, uh and we're very 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.040 happy for him. Well, Uh, Tony had his show pulled 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:08.120 from from satellite radio and also something called sports Map Radio, 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.480 where his show was on. He had made some comments 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.800 about Lebron James that were then reported in a hatchet 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.160 job by dead Spin takedown peace on on Tony Bruno, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.440 and that that ended everything. Uh, Tony has been in 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.680 the business my entire life, ton He's been. I grew 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.640 up listening to Tony on the radio, and I was 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.600 a huge fan when I first heard Tony, and you know, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.320 with miss Robbin has been with him for a long 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.240 time now, uh and all that. So I really wanted 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.560 to get Tony on it. And many of you have 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:40.800 reached out and said, hey, give me the inside, Skinny. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.920 I gotta get Tony on. We gotta find out what's 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.840 going on here with Tony. I want to I'm upset. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.280 You know you love Tony as well, and I love 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:50.200 Tony and I I like listening to So uh, let's 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:54.120 bring in now from the main streets of Philadelphia, one 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.200 of the legends of talk radio. Tony Bruno joins us 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.080 here on the fifth hour, So Tony kind of For 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.640 those that are I gave a brief synopsis, but for 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.679 those that are not up to speed, I I just 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.040 gave a little bit kind of walk us through exactly 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.160 how this all went down. Well, I was goofing off 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:13.760 on the air like I always do, and people have 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.920 listened to me for fifty years on the radio th 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.520 that I approached sports with fun. I deal with things 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.720 that are important when they are like nine eleven, which 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.680 were celebrating the adversary I've I was on the air 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.840 when the worst thing in our lifetime happened, and I 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.400 know how to transition from serious stuff to fun stuff. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.040 And that's what I've always done. And you know this, Ben, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.400 because we go way back, and so always gorooping off 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.880 talking about the NBA and talking about Lebron James and 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.439 the one picture of him where he's reading the Malcolm 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.439 X book and then there was a collage of four 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.360 pictures of Lebron reading four different books and they were 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.120 all open to the first page. So I was gorooping 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.920 off about you know, Lebron James is lecturing everybody on 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.240 why we should worry about this and that, but he 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.320 ignores China and the whole weaker Muslims who are making 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.480 shoes for him. And I don't like to get into politics, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.360 but I was just talking about the hypocrisy of athletes 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.040 that you can't criticize, and Lebard is one of those guys. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.040 He's a great player. I never criticized his game or 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.400 whether he should win a championship. That's what he us. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.839 He's a basketball player, and he has every single right 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.880 then every single right to give opinions. But guess what, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.720 so do I, as an American, have a right to 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.040 give an opinion just because he has a lot of 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.760 high powered henchmen out there who make sure that anybody 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.360 who criticized and must be brought to justice. He got 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.280 a couple of his hacks at dead Spin, which I 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.600 didn't even know was still around, to do a hit 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.280 piece on me because I was groofing off about Lebron 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.280 James and then reading books, and then I jokingly said 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.840 which was which in hindsight, was dumb. What people know 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.760 that I was. I would never said the NBA players 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.480 can't lead, and that's the quote that was attributed to 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.280 me in quotation marks NBA players can't read. I would 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.960 never say something like that. I was talking about Lebron 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.560 James and pretending that he was a learned scholar because 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.600 he has pictures taken out of me got the media 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.080 taking pictures of him reading books, which all are on 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.880 the first page. And I don't know about you, Ben, 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.600 but then when I sat down and I'm reading a book, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.880 I tend to get by pass to first page. But 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.280 I don't care. If he doesn't want to do it, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.240 that's fine. But this whole they gotta put Lebron on 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.360 the pedestal stuff. I was never a part of that. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.600 I don't rip the guy personally. I don't care what 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.800 he does with his life. I'm not a Laker fan 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.040 or a Laker hater. I was there in La were 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.480 all wacobean shack Era, So anyway, that became a we 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.760 gotta get Tony Bruno. When I said it on my 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.560 show two mondays ago, I didn't even realize it. The 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.240 people in the studio didn't realize it. The people listening 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.160 on Serious XM and sports map Radio, nobody called, nobody 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.960 on Twitch where there's live audience interaction, said oh my god, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.920 did you hear what Tony said? Two days later, all 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.440 of a sudden, dead spin out of nowhere puts out 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.679 the hit piece on me. And that's what happens when 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.640 you put out a hit piece and people don't know you. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.800 The people that don't know you are the first to 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.600 jump on board. And then the book. Disappointing thing to 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.400 me Ben was people in the media. There are people 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.800 in the media. When Serious and and sports Map Radio, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.920 he immediately took me off the air and said that 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.360 they weren't gonna put me back on. And so I 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.840 was surprised because I thought Serious would have my back 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.400 and look into it, or sports Map would have my 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.000 back and look into it before making a decision. But 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.280 they made a new jerk decision. And that's the that's 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.720 their call. I'm not saying that they didn't they they 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.520 don't have a right to do what they want. And 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.520 you know, it's a toxic world. Somebody thinks that, you know, advertisers. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.719 I lost Draft Kings and all of my sponsorships. I'm 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.880 not crying as a victim here. I just think that 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.320 we live in the world where only certain people can 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.040 get away with stuff. And the whole white privilege thing, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.480 I guess that. I guess my white privileged card must 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.040 have been burned in one of the riots out there. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.319 So tell me that that's that's amazing. So you did 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.079 this show, you said what you said nobody listening, nobody complained, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.360 and then days later this guy, some bozo a dead 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.280 Spin writes a story and then that's that's all it took. No, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:59.360 you'd think it would work the other way, right, if 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.480 people were you were complaining right away, you got no 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.360 negative feedback at all. Right, No, I wasn't even aware 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.400 that there was a controverscial statement. Now you go back 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.320 in the of course the deaths been guy post the 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.120 whole thing without context. And again what I said was 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.280 not smart, but it's not It's hardly a condemnation of 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.000 being called a racist. And that's the one word then 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.000 that everybody knows if you throw the racist word out there, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.680 especially against the white guy who has no history of 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.120 racism other than a stupid tweet that I never even 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.880 said on the air, but it's been attributed to me 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.680 as something that I said when I never did. When 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.080 you do spoken word, as you know, for a decade 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.920 after decade, you know, I know what I am, and 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.640 everybody who knows me knows who I am. But being 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.080 called a racist is one thing that you can never 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:49.600 ever disprove or prove. So the illness is on me 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.400 and the people who don't know and read these stories 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.880 and come after me. And as imagine, there's some prominent 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.240 media people in sports who are dancing on my grave. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.040 That's the thing. I can get idiots on Twitter and 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.440 Facebook and all these people who don't know and that's 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.920 all they do. They go on there because it's a 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.360 tess pool. And I don't care about being criticized that 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.320 people disagreeing with me. But when you got media people 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.440 who are out there like happy and media people by 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.280 the way, and I'm not gonna name them, who have 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.880 had their own issues and keep getting jobs and then 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.520 jump on my grade when I have a dow job 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:27.280 cantle from me, that's the ultimate and hypocrisy in this industry. No, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.960 I agree to listen. I love you, man, and I 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.560 and I've known you for years and everyone that's worked 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.200 with you, and I've talked to people. We've talked about this, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.760 you know, because it's obviously been a big story in 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.440 the radio business and everyone's like Tony is the greatest 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.720 kind of the world. This is such it's so ridiculous, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.520 as you know better than me, Tony. You do a 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.040 three or four hour show a day, and you know 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.520 you're just you're just rifting you know, every once in 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.560 a while you're gonna say something maybe you shouldn't say 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.160 or whatever. But the Lebron thing, the thing that puzzles me, Tony, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.640 is this, Like I believe Lebron was asked about the book, right, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.840 wasn't he? And he he said he hadn't read it yet. Right, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.280 it wasn't that thing? And then and then I remember 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.600 a couple of years ago in the playoffs with Cleveland, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.840 Lebron had said that he he watched like The Godfather 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.160 movies to get ready for the playoffs, remember the Playoffs series, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.600 And then when a reporter asked him his favorite scene 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.080 in The Godfather, he he couldn't remember one like this. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.200 So it's not it's that it's not outrageous stuff but 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.120 yet but yet, you know, you say it and it's 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.520 like we're off to the races. It's just it's just crazy. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.560 And as far as the media people, Tony, I agree 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.600 that it's it's the grave Dancing's that mob mentality, and 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.320 these guys are in the media. You'd think you'd advocate 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.400 for other media people and support other media people. It's absurd, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.040 but at least you now know who the who the 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.520 phonies are Tony. That's a good thing, right, Yeah, I'm 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.440 not even when people get fired in any business, whether 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.400 it's at the restaurant, who business down, you know, But 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.760 I'm really not because of what happened to me. But 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.800 you know, we went through a year now where obviously 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.159 we've never gone for anything like this before, you know. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.320 And I went back on the air when the pandemic started, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:07.959 when there was no sports to talk about, and that's 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.280 why Sirius hired me and said, hey, if there's anybody 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.399 who can put on the air to talk about sports 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.640 when there's no sports to talk about, you know, you're 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.679 the guy. So Steve Colin, I don't have any problems 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.080 with with with the people that serious Jeff, you know, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.440 the guys Steve Calling and all the people at the 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.800 Sailors have been great to me. So I'm not a guy. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.800 I don't tell people I go out there and canceled, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.000 cancel your eyes. I don't do that. I don't tell people. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.080 People make their own decisions. I don't say, hey, look 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.240 what they've done to me. I'm not bad mouthing the companies. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.639 Companies do what they have to do. They have to 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.359 protect their you know, they have to protect the NBA. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.000 They have to protect Lebron James, and I get it, 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.600 that's the way the corporate world works. But the instantaneous, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.960 knee jerk decision to destroy someone's career, Uh, that's a 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.080 lot that's disappointing because I don't want to end on 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.000 well Tony Bruno went out and about time you got fired. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.119 That guy's out racist. You know, that's the kind of 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.560 stuff that disappoints me more than anything else. Then, and Tony, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.320 how fast you said right away that once the story 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.080 on Deadspin went you were off the air, Like was 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.159 there any negotiation or like, how does that work? Like 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.359 did they call you, did they send an email? Or 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.240 they just they just pulled the plug? How exactly did 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.840 that all go down? So it happened, I guess on 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.439 a Monday show, and then Wednesday the dead Spin thing 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.880 appears out of nowhere. I had no idea, and then 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.959 people I start sawing my Twitter feed and people are like, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.399 oh my god, Tony Burrow the braces fire him. And 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.600 so obviously, when when you get the whole uproar of 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.480 people reading dead Spin and people in the media obviously 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.960 see it first, and then people on Twitter read dead 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.600 Spin and Deadspin kept retweeting the story like every three 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.600 hours to make sure that everybody saw it. And that's why. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.800 I that's their business. You know, they're trying to get clicks. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.040 But if you read it, you'll see the guy who 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.240 wrote it. The first words out of it, Well, the 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.879 first thing is a court tweet that I said NBA 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.480 players can't read, and he quits that in quotations, which 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.480 is obviously fraud. And then he starts off as column 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.320 with a few in the entire words, not just f you. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.440 The first two words are few Tony Bruno, and then 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.200 he goes in and does a hacky job. I don't 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.600 even know the guy, and I don't care about the guy, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.360 but the bottom line is that just shows you right there. 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.159 But this is this with a concerted effort to bury someone. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.600 So that was on Wednesday, and so I see the 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.600 story in our ripped bed Spin on the air. The 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.160 next day, Thursday, I come there, I come down into 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.440 my basement. I got a studio here to get ready 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.160 for the Thursday show. I get a call saying that 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.159 we're not gonna do a show today. We're taking you 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.119 off the air. We're not covered. I didn't even know. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.880 We'd actually started doing the show on Twitch, and then 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.160 people were calling and saying, hey, you're not on Serious today. 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.600 You're not on Serious, and I didn't even realize that. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.399 So I did my show as normal on Twitch and 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.000 then found out after the show that they wanted to 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.879 talk to me on Friday. Now be setting this up. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.720 I had planned a vacation back in June on the Saturday, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.119 UH to go to Florida for a week with MS Robin, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.159 so obviously, so then on Friday morning, we get a 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.640 call and saying, hey, you know what, from from Serious, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.440 We're not going to carry the show anymore. We're not 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.479