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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here for One Bills Live, a new show.

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Speaker 1: New co host Joe Bascallion, WKBW sports director joins us

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Speaker 1: from noon to three. Yeah, and we'll be getting into

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Speaker 1: make or break year ahead of them. You can tweet

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Speaker 1: us or call with your opinions. We also reached out

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Speaker 1: to former Vice president of Officiating for the National Football

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Speaker 1: League Dean Blandina will get his thoughts on the retirement

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And not to mention, will also

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Speaker 1: be touching on the top ten of this year's NFL

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Speaker 1: draft in which of those players will have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact for their team. One Bills Live starts right now. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bills Live. I'm Steve Tasker along with

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Speaker 1: today's guest ho Joe Viscallion. Joe, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see. I know we've been We've been

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Speaker 1: be unbelievable with it. And now where you are now

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Speaker 1: the last guy standing. How does it feel. It's great

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Speaker 1: to have you in. Yeah, it feels great. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. Um, you know, getting back to the old

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Speaker 1: It felt great to be back on the air and

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Speaker 1: it's always fun because it's part of the job. Is

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Speaker 1: I'm not really good in front of people. I have

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Speaker 1: hard time public speaking. It's really not like public speaking.

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Speaker 1: It's more like having it's you know, you and me

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Speaker 1: the job is to make it sound easy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then people chime in with their opinion. And I'm telling

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Speaker 1: Mirth is like yeah, and he takes control of the

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Speaker 1: a little nervous about. Well, I'm here to lighten your

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Speaker 1: load however I can, and you are, I'm here. If

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Speaker 1: you already have, We're gonna get to your stuff. You've

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Speaker 1: been writing some stuff on w kbw's website about the

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Speaker 1: twenty top talents, the Buffalo Bills. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: that later in the show. We've got Dean Blandino. As

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Speaker 1: you heard in the open, he's coming on. Dean is

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Speaker 1: you who don't know who Dean Blandino is, He's coming

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Speaker 1: But he really made his bones. He was the guy.

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Speaker 1: And this for those of you who don't know, and

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Speaker 1: you've all watched the NFL games when the NFL officials

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Speaker 1: And I mean there's just so much confusion. Listen, with

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Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin catch in New England should never have been overturned,

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Speaker 1: that's right. And Dean Blandino his and I remember him

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Speaker 1: saying his take on it was listen, if you're we're

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Speaker 1: so to me, I think the longer he sits on

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff is there. But I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: have good odds right now, I would think about saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: Browns make the playoffs, why not? I mean to be

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Speaker 1: a good bet. Listen, Yeah, you're gonna get a good

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Speaker 1: return on your bed right. Well, the reason we're talking

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Speaker 1: about this, we're talking about which which draft pick of

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Speaker 1: the top ten selected in the NFL draft is gonna

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Speaker 1: make the biggest impact. We started talking about it as

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tease it. We're going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: one three. We're act talking about a lot right now

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Speaker 1: because we got on the on the road about what

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is gonna look like and how much pressure is

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Speaker 1: gonna be there because of A. J. McCarron and they

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Speaker 1: wanted to trade from mccaren and didn't get it done.

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Speaker 1: And now they've got Tyrod Taylor and it's it's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: This last offseason was as interesting and offseason around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League as I can remember in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I'm intrenchedon and we're talking about in the

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Speaker 1: media with the draft and all the quarterbacks that were available,

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Speaker 1: plus the free agent quarterbacks that popped out on the market,

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Speaker 1: from case Keenum in Minneapolis to Kirk Cousins to Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: all these starting quarterbacks that were rotating around the league,

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Speaker 1: and then you got these young quarterbacks coming out. You

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Speaker 1: got other quarterbacks like Tyrod Taylor who seemed came available,

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Speaker 1: and it's and Aaron Rodgers was injured. You had a

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Speaker 1: chance to look at Jacobe Brissett, you know, Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: he's throwing, yeah right, he's finally back on the football field.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been one of the most interesting off

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Speaker 1: seasons in my memory, and I still think we're feeling

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Speaker 1: kind of the ripple effects of it because there's so

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Speaker 1: many intriguing storylines about what's gonna happen when these young

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks get into training camp and they're behind these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that are yeah right, you know perfect even get right,

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Speaker 1: And how good do they have to be to beat

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Speaker 1: those guys out right? It really is. And if they

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Speaker 1: don't beat them out, did you pick the right guy? True?

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Speaker 1: It's really intriguing. As as off seasons go, it's always

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Speaker 1: extra intriguing when quarterbacks are on the move. And this

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. This year we saw a lot of

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Speaker 1: quarterback movement. And like Kirk Cousins is not a guy

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Speaker 1: who get just hops on free agency too often, and

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Speaker 1: then he goes with a potential Super Bowl candidate. But

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Speaker 1: I think with the rookies, it's all about the individual

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Speaker 1: team's plan. And you know, the Bills with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the guy that they think to themselves that

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Speaker 1: they have a plan. They're not going to veer from

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Speaker 1: it unless Josh really shows he's ahead of the curve,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. But all these other spots, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really dependent on how ready these guys are, and

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Speaker 1: also some stubbornness to it too, because if let's say

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Speaker 1: Taylor that the top pick in the third round, is

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson really going to be eager to go? Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's put Baker in. There is the Arizona Cardinals who

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Speaker 1: just paid twenty million dollars for Sam Bradford, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I know, Sam Bradford is well thought

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Speaker 1: of around the league, but that is absolutely ridiculous. If

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Speaker 1: he stays healthy is good. But he has yet to

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Speaker 1: do that. And so Josh Rosen is there, and Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen has apparently looked great so far in the in

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Speaker 1: the mini camps. You know, granted mini camp you can

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Speaker 1: you can be fooled pretty well by mini camps. But

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Speaker 1: with these guys, you have to sit there and go, well,

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Speaker 1: if they're better, even though how much you're paying or

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Speaker 1: how much you gave up for that player, you gotta

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Speaker 1: put him in there. The the window for finding out

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Speaker 1: about these guys is so slim now, like people in

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Speaker 1: power positions can be out of jobs quickly in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't find out about your quarterback, or

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Speaker 1: if you wait too long to find out about your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it could cost you and then their career is screwed

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Speaker 1: because because then a new regime comes in and they

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Speaker 1: didn't really believe in that guy. Right. Wow, Which Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills in the biggest maker break season. That's our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll for the day. Shaq Lawson is running away from it,

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Speaker 1: kel with It. Kelvin Benjamin is also on the on

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Speaker 1: the docket for that, and also Aj McCarron, the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with You're with Steve Tasker and Joe Biscallia

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live at One Bills Drive here on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. We're talking about all this stuff and

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Speaker 1: the intriguing thing for me is and then the fun

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Speaker 1: thing and The interesting thing is you can talk about

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Speaker 1: all this and then I love how information trickles out.

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Speaker 1: This guy looked great in mini camp. The guys. The

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Speaker 1: guys love him in mini camp, you know, and there's

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Speaker 1: all this positive vibe going because nothing really matters yet,

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Speaker 1: you know, nothing really counts yet. If a guy has

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Speaker 1: a bad day in practice, he might hear about it,

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Speaker 1: or if he missed a throw, but you're more likely

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Speaker 1: to hear about the highlights. Because here's the thing. Before

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Speaker 1: you get there, before you draft all these quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: all these top players, all you hear is the downside

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Speaker 1: of him. You don't want this guy. This guy's question marks.

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Speaker 1: This guy's got this question mark. He's really good here,

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Speaker 1: he did this really well, this really well, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't do this really. You know. Josh Owen's got all

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Speaker 1: the physical abilities as completion percentage, I don't know, you know.

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Speaker 1: And this guy Sam Darnold, and he's got all that,

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Speaker 1: he's a great guy and all that, but but he

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Speaker 1: turned it over all the time, you know. And Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield's you know, he's five six, you know, he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not, but you know, they exaggerate. So he got

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Speaker 1: all these question marks. Then once you draft these guys,

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Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, we got the exact guy we wanted.

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Speaker 1: He's better than the rest of those guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's his question marks. We can explain those away

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Speaker 1: because you know, the offense he was in, or you

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Speaker 1: know he's really he's actually he is six a tall,

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Speaker 1: or you know, this guy was a bad offense that

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Speaker 1: he was going in, or he was behind a lot,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to force the ball in there for Sambury.

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Speaker 1: You know, all these different things, and all his teammates

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Speaker 1: said Josh Rosen, actually he was a great guy. So

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Speaker 1: there's all these different things, and once you draft the guy,

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Speaker 1: all the information, the information that trickles out, it's all positive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to really be careful this time

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Speaker 1: of year or well what it was this time of year,

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Speaker 1: because all of those guys that stand out at camp

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Speaker 1: or whatnot. I mean, it could easily go away just

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Speaker 1: like that once things actually get more real. And it's

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Speaker 1: just to me, it's it's more about guys putting themselves

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Speaker 1: in the right light with their coaching staffs than saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're completely awful or hey, they it looks like they're

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Speaker 1: locking up a job right now. It's it's never about

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Speaker 1: that because coaches take the long view of it. They

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Speaker 1: realize that things have to get a little bit more physical.

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Speaker 1: Things have to go to preseason. But you can put

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Speaker 1: push yourself up the board on the depth chart just

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Speaker 1: by a good spring a little bit, but nothing is

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Speaker 1: for certain after that. And these quarterbacks, I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear great things about all of these quarterbacks because

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Speaker 1: it's all there is to chew on right now. Once

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Speaker 1: you get the camp and think the pressure starts to

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Speaker 1: get going, then things get real. And for more on

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll from Wandering Jack, it's gotta be Shack

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Speaker 1: who's in the biggest make or break season for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. He has had two injury plagues, underwhelming seasons,

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Speaker 1: and maybe more so, he has to impress because he

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Speaker 1: isn't McDermott being guys. Is what you said, guys. We

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Speaker 1: have seen them slash and trade most of the previous regimes, guys,

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Speaker 1: and they need to have a big camp to stick.

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Speaker 1: His spring looks positive though, and he has. He's he's

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Speaker 1: rededicated himself. He's he came out and said it, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's it says something about particularly a guy

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Speaker 1: like Shaq who who hasn't had all this success, when

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Speaker 1: they get to a point in their career and I

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Speaker 1: know I did it. I know a lot of every

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Speaker 1: player does it. At some point where they sit back

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Speaker 1: and they do a real self evaluation. They say, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm you know, I gotta work on this

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be if I'm gonna stick into this.

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Speaker 1: I see I see for me guys I see like

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Speaker 1: guys like Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Andre Reid

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Speaker 1: and and all those old guys. And you look around

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Speaker 1: the league and you see guys like Adrian Peterson and

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and and Tom Brady, you name it, a

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Speaker 1: lot of great players, the guys on those teams. When

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Speaker 1: you're a young player coming in, you kind of been

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Speaker 1: this great athlete and this productive player. You sit back

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Speaker 1: and you watch how hard they work and all the

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Speaker 1: things that they know that you had no idea about,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking yourself, I I've got to work harder

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Speaker 1: to get there. Yeah, I gotta work harder to get

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Speaker 1: that depth of knowledge about what it is to play

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Speaker 1: my position. I've got to work harder and cut my

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Speaker 1: body fat. I got to change the way I look

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Speaker 1: in the mirror, plus to fage my body. It's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of growing up too, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: you get to a point where Shack Lawson was coming

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Speaker 1: into the league at twenty two years old, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know, were you all the way growing up at

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Speaker 1: twenty two. I wasn't. I was still I still have

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Speaker 1: long hair when I was twenty two. It was a

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Speaker 1: bad decision. But when you do get to a certain

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Speaker 1: point in your life, and and this goes for any

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Speaker 1: sort of career, not even just football. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: either accept constructive criticism and you work harder to get

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Speaker 1: better at what you're doing if you really care about it,

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Speaker 1: or you just go, oh, well, they don't know what

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Speaker 1: and then you're probably going to be changing careers or

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be moved on from at some point in

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Speaker 1: your career. So it's really just a matter of a

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Speaker 1: self reflection thing to your point and growing up. That's

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Speaker 1: what it is for Shack Lawson. I really do you

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Speaker 1: think that? I agree? Yeah. So we've got Dean Blandino

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Speaker 1: coming up at two o'clock, we're going to talk about Joebiscaglia,

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Speaker 1: Biscalius and your twenty top Talents right other bills, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to that later, and all the other stuff

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about. The Twitter poll is up, which

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill is going to have the biggest make or

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Speaker 1: break season? And also at one thirty or lass maybe one.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly when he's coming on, but Mon

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Speaker 1: Paul Aurora from CBS, he's going to come on and

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Speaker 1: talk to us. One of the things you might have

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Speaker 1: heard about already the rights for streaming the NFL games

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Speaker 1: on your phone or whatever personal you carry around with you.

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Speaker 1: Now they're up for grabs. CBS has landed those rights.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to stream all the games anywhere

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Speaker 1: you are on your phone if you have the program,

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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk to him about that what

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Speaker 1: it means. And I think that's interesting because you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot has been said over the last eighteen months

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Speaker 1: about how the viewership of the NFL is down by whatever, five, ten, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven percent, whatever you want to pick. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what what week it was, but say say it's ten

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Speaker 1: percent when we spoke when I've heard from some of

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Speaker 1: the people in from CBS and some of the media people.

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Speaker 1: Actually the viewership has remained big. The reason it's the

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Speaker 1: viewership is down on TV is because there's ten percent

641
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Speaker 1: of people are starting to watch it on their phone.

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Speaker 1: They're watching it in a different spot. They're still there,

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Speaker 1: but they're not on TV. They're not watching it on

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Speaker 1: TV like we always did when we were growing up. Yeah,

645
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: they're watching it on different things. I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to getting into that discussion because the media landscape in

647
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: itself has just been evolving over the past five years

648
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Speaker 1: or so to where everyone is consuming it in different ways.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to talk to him. It was interesting

650
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Speaker 1: ten years ago, not ten, Yeah, maybe maybe ten years ten,

651
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Speaker 1: eight or ten years ago. We were driving we had

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Speaker 1: just finished a game in Houston on CBS, and we

653
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: were wondering which game we were gonna do next, and

654
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: it came down to is this team gonna win or

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Speaker 1: is this team team a gonna beat team? Being We're

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Speaker 1: riding to the airport and I was riding with the

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Speaker 1: producer and the director and they're all, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: tech savvy and they're on it, and we were riding

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Speaker 1: to the airport and he's got the game on his

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Speaker 1: phone back then, and I was like, you know yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you got that in your hand, and

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Speaker 1: he's like yeah, and we're watching it, and we were,

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Speaker 1: and the results of that game was gonna tell us

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Speaker 1: where we were gonna go in like three weeks, you know, interesting,

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Speaker 1: and it was really wild. For the first time, he thought, Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's somebody shifted gears. You know, the whole media landscape

667
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: was changing right before our eyes. And and for the

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Speaker 1: first time I was sitting I was right in the

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Speaker 1: back of an suv with a police escort of the

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Speaker 1: year and the guy's watching TV on his phone and

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Speaker 1: is finding out, you know, what my future was going

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Speaker 1: to be in three it was. It was mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: And now everybody's like, why can't now they're they're belly aching,

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Why they can't do that? Yep, And now there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a new thing in another five years. Jobscalia, w

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Speaker 1: KBW Sports Director. I'm Steve Tasker Earth one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: and you're listening from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve tasker and Jobascalia in today for Murf

680
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: who's on vacation, and uh, we're taking turns. Murph and

681
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: I haven't been together for like about a month. That's

682
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: how it goes, though. This is the dead period. I've

683
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: been in and out. He's now he's taking his time off.

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00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: It's it's it's better for us part. Now we're close.

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00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: It's good. He's fishing. It's good for him. And I

686
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: was in Alaska for a week, so wow. Nice. Well,

687
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, everybody starts to you know, we gotta you

688
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: gotta get your you know how it is. Once the

689
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: season starts, everybody's locked in and you're in a routine.

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00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: The games come every Sunday. You're in a routine and

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00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: you gotta you got stuff you gotta do every week,

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00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: and you've got you know, content, you gotta get together

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00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: and we gotta put it out in the air, and

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00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: I gotta get ready for games. And we do this

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00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: every day. For me this year, I'm seven days a week.

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00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm Monday through Friday doing this and then

697
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday I'm off doing something else for CBS. It's

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00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: it's busy. Once training camp begins. I always joke with

699
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: with my friends and family, like life's over at that point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will see exactly see you in February.

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00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I might come up for air something some briefly on

702
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the bye week. Yeah, that's the way it is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And and it's it's good though. I mean, you know,

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00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: I keep asking tell people joking, he's like the Godfather movie.

705
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: It's it's the life we've chosen, you know. It is.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it for anything. I love doing and

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Speaker 1: I mean I liked, I like being in it. I

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: like I like the game. It's fun. I'm interested in it.

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: And but it's yeah, you hit it hard. That's why

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm you know, we go dark next week,

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00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: we are all everybody's off there. Next week we're same, Yeah,

712
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: raised on vacation. So um. I mean it's you gotta

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Speaker 1: get your last little bit of free time. And plus

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Speaker 1: for us and and then season that the NFL is

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's not that for everybody obviously,

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Speaker 1: but for our sport. It's great that it's in the summer,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you get a chance, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to travel to have the nice weather. You can be

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Speaker 1: right here. You can play golf, you can swim and

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Speaker 1: do all the other stuff and oh yeah, baseball game.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's all. I mean, you get that that

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Speaker 1: four week window where it's like, Okay, this is the

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Speaker 1: time takes Allison. We're not alone. I mean the coaching

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Speaker 1: and coaching staff, the GM, the front office, the players,

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00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: they all do it too. I mean everybody. Oh yeah,

726
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: everybody's in the same mode. Like this building is a

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Speaker 1: ghost town. Yeah, it's a ghost Well it would be

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for football camp today. Joe Viscounty and

729
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on Bills Live, we had a Twitter poll

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Speaker 1: who which Buffalo Bill is gonna in the biggest make

731
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Speaker 1: or break season in twenty eighteen. A lot of you

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Speaker 1: really think it's gonna be Shack Lawson. Twitter's chiming in

733
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Speaker 1: as well, and this is somebody on the other category.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Daniels says the pressure is on Zay Jones. He

735
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Speaker 1: had an up and down rookie season at a strange

736
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Speaker 1: offseason incident. There's a ton of competition at wide receiver

737
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: this season. He's already behind, not being able to participate

738
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Speaker 1: in mini camp as a knee injury. He needs a

739
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Speaker 1: strong training camp. For me, he may be the odd

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Speaker 1: man out. How much do you think they have invested

741
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Speaker 1: in Zay Jones to make sure he makes the team

742
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: a lot? And I think he will make the team

743
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens. But Tiffany is absolutely right. What

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Speaker 1: about contributing though, That's that's the point of contention here,

745
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Speaker 1: because if he comes in and from what they've made

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Speaker 1: it clear is that Zay Jones will be ready to

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Speaker 1: go by the time training camp goes, or at least

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Speaker 1: that's what they're under the impression of right now. Things

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Speaker 1: can always change. But if he comes in there and

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Speaker 1: let's say somebody like Malachai Dupre just flat out plays

751
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm in training camp. I mean, this coaching staff is

752
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: not the type to go, well, we made a commitment

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00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: to this guy in the second round, even though he's

754
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: being outperformed. We have to put him out there. You

755
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: have to earn it. And especially for z Jones and

756
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: what happened with him in the offseason, this is a

757
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: pretty big year for him. And if he does not

758
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: come up and be a lot better than he was

759
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: last year, a lot more consistent. He certainly certainly showed

760
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: flashes at sometimes the Jets Thursday night game comes to

761
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: my more than anything. But if he does not take

762
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: that next step, then they could be sitting there thinking

763
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: to themselves, all right, we need to add offensive talent

764
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Speaker 1: in the draft or free agency coming up. I mean,

765
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter about za Jones anymore. Right, that's exactly right. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to test my host abilities. I'm gonna try

767
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: and take a phone call. Here. We've got Brian from

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Speaker 1: West Seneca. Brian, how you doing. Welcome to one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, Steve? Before I talk about

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Speaker 1: my comment, I kind of want to welcome a Saint

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Speaker 1: Francis parents and a Saint Francis alumnus on the radio. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I'm a bishop time and alumnus, and it's unfortunate your kids,

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Speaker 1: Steve and Joe, you couldn't ask the answer to exam

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Speaker 1: to get into time. Oh, I see, I see you there,

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Speaker 1: I see Okay, obviously a local here throwing down the

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Speaker 1: gartlet I can get it. It's okay. Well, I kind

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Speaker 1: of And then the other thing I was going to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys, did you hear that Saint Francis is

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00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: about going co ed next year? I haven't heard that.

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Speaker 1: Was this a joke or what? I don't I'm you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna start letting boys in the school. A very

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Speaker 1: nice yeah, there you go. All right, So that aside,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had to I was waiting for this

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Speaker 1: opportunity with Steve, but you know, once I was golfing

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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: in its rain and I had to, you know, bring

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00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: that up. But anyways, my time it was on the

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Speaker 1: when you were talking last segment about the NFL Mobile

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Speaker 1: being on CBS having the rights. Um, I remember eleven

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00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: twelve years ago watching UH NFL games on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Mobile app and it was free and you know, amazing

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Speaker 1: to where it's came from. But it's taken a while.

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Speaker 1: You would I would have thought it's you know, when

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Speaker 1: I was sitting listening to guys, I thought it would

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: have been sooner that we could have you know, done this.

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Speaker 1: And I think you could could have done it from NFL.

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: I think you have charged more. But you know, it's

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: a great thing because when you're on vacation, you don't

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Speaker 1: have a laptop or a TV to to get to

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Speaker 1: UH and CBS isn't hosting locally. Um, you know, I

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: think it's a great thing. And um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess that's my comments and I apologize for being hish,

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: but go Red Raiders. No, no, it's all yeah, all

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00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: in good fun. I appreciate the call, Brian, and he's right.

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Speaker 1: And now what we're understanding is that when you do

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Speaker 1: stream these games, it's gonna be your local market. So

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00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: if you're happening to be traveling around in Jacksonville, you're

807
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get a Bills game in Jacksonville.

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00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do the Jacksonville game. So what

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00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: it means is in your local market, just like normal,

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: if it was a regular TV, you're going to get

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Speaker 1: the Bills game in Buffalo well, which which I mean

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00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: the NFL could like really open it up if they

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Speaker 1: wanted to, but I don't think they want to. Listen. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they will, yeah, soon, but it leaves to happen. It

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Speaker 1: won't be in our lifetime, but I think they might be.

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Speaker 1: It might be. Listen. I've always said this about the NFL.

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00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: They get every issue right, but man on man, does

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Speaker 1: it take them a long time? Yeah. The NBA, they

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Speaker 1: are not. The NBA adapts, especially with Adam Silver as

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Speaker 1: their commissioner. They adapt and react at immediately. You know

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Speaker 1: what they do. You know what the NBA does better

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Speaker 1: than any than any professional league. They talk to their players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're players because they're listen, the guys at the highest

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Speaker 1: levels of any professional sport are really sharp. They're really

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Speaker 1: bright guys. They play it, they understand it. Uh, they

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Speaker 1: have outside business interests. They're you know, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: many companies, so them not so many. And the league,

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Speaker 1: the NBA, I'm talking about, the NBA does a really

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Speaker 1: nice job. Adam Silver has a huge level of credibility

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Speaker 1: within the players ranks where he can go in and say,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys think and they'll have some great ideas.

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Speaker 1: And also because then they find out, the league finds

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: out that the players are too smart just to say

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Speaker 1: we need this ABC indeed, dada dada da, and not

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Speaker 1: give a hoot about any of the other side of

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Speaker 1: the business they may not know about. But when the

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Speaker 1: league hears it in the league says, listen, here's why

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Speaker 1: we can't do that, the players going, I get it.

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Speaker 1: And then they they're all on the same page. They're

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Speaker 1: on the same team, basic, right, And that's that's a

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00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: huge thing for the NBA, I mean, the self awareness

842
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Speaker 1: level is very high. And with with the NFL, I

843
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: mean there is a certain amount of awareness, but they

844
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: also do things that make you scratch your head a

845
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: little bit and go, you think that was the best idea?

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00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: And do you think that was the best idea to

847
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: handle this situation? And it just it turns off their

848
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Speaker 1: their players sometimes, and so that it just I think

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Speaker 1: that that cohesiveness that you're talking about needs to be

850
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: a little bit better. And about the NFL you're talking about, Yeah,

851
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: and it blends right into the whole streaming every game standpoint,

852
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: because I mean the NBA you can do it. You

853
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they offer the league Pass and and you

854
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: can get any game you want to right then and there.

855
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of the NFL thinking

856
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: of themselves as an event and and you know, you

857
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: have to be in a certain spot to get it.

858
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: But that said, I think at the end of maybe

859
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: five years, ten years, maybe sooner, you're going to be

860
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: able to watch all your teams. Yeah. Here's the thing too.

861
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: All the games happen at the same time Monday night football, right,

862
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, you're all they're all on Sunday afternoon at

863
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: one o'clock and four o'clock, you know, and then you

864
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: have three other games. You have double digit games that

865
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: are on at the same time. So it seems to

866
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: make more sense for the NFL to let you watch

867
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: any of those games that you want to. But by

868
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: the same token you're talking about the level of self awareness,

869
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the NFL is up against it a little bit in

870
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: a way that the NBA is not. The NBA has

871
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: thirteen guys on the roster, and you have a couple

872
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: of lead dogs, maybe man in in case of the

873
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: Cleveland have they got one lead dog? Yeah? The players

874
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Association is a lot smaller, right, And you've got guys

875
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: who have strong intelligent voye that a lot of guys

876
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: just say go um and guys that, and those voices

877
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: crossover team lines. In the NFL not so much. You

878
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: might have a couple of strong intelligent guys on the

879
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, for instance, but those voices aren't heard every

880
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: day by guys in Jacksonville, by guys in LA by

881
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: guys in Arizona, by guys in Seattle. They don't know

882
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: each other that well. The league is much bigger and

883
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: much widespread and much more diverse. And because of that,

884
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: it's harder for that self awareness and the intelligent voices

885
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: to overshadow the social media world. For lack of a

886
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: better way to put the social media voice that's perfect

887
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: and the guys like that. So that's one where way

888
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: where the NFL lags behind for a good reason. It's

889
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: just because of the logistics and the fact that those

890
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: voices you have to sift through a lot more voices

891
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: for the NFL. But still, nevertheless, the NBA does an

892
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: outstanding job. And you know, in this in this last

893
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: round of you know, with of rules changes and you know,

894
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: with the anthem protests and all that, the NBA took

895
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: a couple of shots at the then film they took

896
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: and and and rightfully, so it's it's but the but

897
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: the NFL is more cumbersome, it is, I mean, there's

898
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: there's more of a weight to the NFL because although

899
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: the NBA is becoming very big, the NFL is just

900
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, going eight hundred pound gorilla. Yeah, And

901
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: and you know sometimes that is going to be resistant

902
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: to change and the way things everything has been done,

903
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: because everything has been working up to that point and

904
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: so I get all that, but eventually, at some point

905
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: you have to sit there and go, Okay, well, well

906
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let cooler heads prevail and and go

907
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: with go with the common sense, go with logic, go

908
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: with self awareness. I mean, it's it's it's almost not

909
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: that hard, but I guess getting everybody to agree makes

910
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: it kind of hard. But it's it's interesting though. It's

911
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: it's still you know, the NFL is still the best

912
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: league in my opinion, it's still it's still the best

913
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: run sports league. It's still for me obviously because I

914
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: used to play it was. It's still the most fun

915
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: to watch too. But personal opinion. But um, I think

916
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: one of the interesting things that always gets tossed by

917
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: the way side. We're gonna talk about this, Uh you know,

918
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that, let's talk. I want to go

919
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: back to the Buffalo Bills and we've been talking about

920
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the league and kind of getting I want to talk

921
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: about your articles that you started writing about for w KBW.

922
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: You got twenty top talents for the Buffalo Bills that

923
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: are well, I don't know, just most important guys. Yeah,

924
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: the top twenty talents and the way I've kind of

925
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: curated this list is because it's not your average top

926
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: twenty lists, where of what they are right now, there's

927
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot more projection to it. I work in a

928
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of the film study that I do throughout the

929
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: year on you know, how these guys perform. I mean,

930
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: I think all in all, you you look at who's

931
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: out there, and that's why you see some of these

932
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: younger guys being higher up on the list. And we'll

933
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: get into that in a little bit. Yeah, I mean,

934
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: let's um, I'll tell you what. Let's let's take a

935
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: break here, We're gonna come back. We'll tease that top

936
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: twenty thing. We'll come back and talk about Joe Biscalia's

937
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: Top twenty talents of the Buffalo Bills. After this break,

938
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: you're with One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

939
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve

940
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: Tasker along with Joe Biscallion in today for Murph and

941
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about We're teased Joe's article he wrote on

942
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: the w KBW website about the twenty Top Bills talent.

943
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: Give us a quick overview. Yeah, it's like it's the

944
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: way that this team is kind of set up for

945
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: now in both the future, because that's very important having

946
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: the long term lens. And this is what this kind

947
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: of countdown has. So for instance, you'll see some of

948
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: more important players right now a little bit further down

949
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: the list than you might expect, only because the potential

950
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: for others to rise up on the list needs to

951
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: be accounted for as well. And this goes with in

952
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: handled like film work, and you know, I do player

953
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: grades every single year, and so it all lines up

954
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: into this one list, and odds are, unless it's just

955
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: a completely incredible talents, you're going to see one of

956
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: the younger players up near the top because the potential

957
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: for more greatness is there. I see he's starting like

958
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: number twenty. He started out with Lorenzo Alexander, right, guy

959
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: who we was a known commodity, Yeah, known commodity. He

960
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: might be in the last year of his career. Maybe

961
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: he's got one more after this, but I mean he's

962
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: got you know, the Sack production has been really good

963
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: the past couple of years. They found the right role

964
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: for him. Last year, after taking having him on the

965
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: field for way too much, they scaled it back a

966
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: little bit and that was the best thing for him,

967
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: and now they know what works for him and he'll

968
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: be a good contributor this year. But but then you

969
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: start to get into some of these other guys that

970
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: are a little bit younger, like I have, for instance,

971
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, who's not going to have as big of

972
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: a role as Lorenzo Alexander this year, but he ranks

973
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: ahead of him because the potential is there for him

974
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: to become a starter down the line and be a

975
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: rotational player this year. And we also have at number

976
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: that's Lorenzo Alexander, Harrison Phillips at nineteen, Shack Lawson, who's

977
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: in our Twitter poll. Yeah, he's I mean, he's he's

978
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: got it. This is a huge year. Oh it's such

979
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: a compelling case because you would think that the talent

980
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: is there. You watch him and his Clemson tape and

981
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: you're like, where'd that guy go? What happened here? I

982
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: wonder if some of it might have to do with

983
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: him playing on the left side as opposed to the

984
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: right side, because his whole career, high school, college, he's

985
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: played on the right side as defensive fend He's on

986
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: the left side now, and you know, I don't want

987
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: to make too big a deal about it, but there

988
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: is a certain amount of muscle memory there to where

989
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: if you're doing the same thing over and over again,

990
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: it might feel a little bit foreign on that side

991
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: of things, and maybe you're not as effective. But he

992
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: needs to be more effective there because he's not moving.

993
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he had the chance to get kicked over

994
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: to right side, but Eddie Yarborough passed it him up

995
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: for that, and so now he has to show in

996
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: his potentially twenty to twenty five to thirty percent of

997
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: snaps this year behind Trent Murphy, that he can do it,

998
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, if he doesn't show that in

999
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: preseason or training camp, I firmly believe he is on

1000
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: the trade radar for the Buffalo Bills. You know, it's

1001
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: interesting too that of your lot from eleven through twenty,

1002
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: most of those guys are defenders. I mean, yeah, you

1003
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen at number eleven, of course, but you

1004
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: got Trent Murphy, Star Lotulelei, Vonte Davis and then Shack Lawson,

1005
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips are into well, Alexander Round at the top twenty,

1006
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: but you get all the way down to Trent Murphy

1007
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: and Star Low to Lela. I mean those are you know,

1008
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: those are guys who are at twelve or thirteen on

1009
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: your on your list, and that speaks to the strength

1010
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: of the roster, right because this defense I think has

1011
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: the potential to be a top fifteen, maybe even a

1012
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: top ten units this year if everything works well, like

1013
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: if Flonte Davis plays well, if Trent Murphy comes back,

1014
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: and Murphy and I have been having this debate, I

1015
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: think they're top ten. And then Lorenzo Alexander, of course

1016
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: he says we're Our goal is top five. Yeah, but

1017
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of question marks to put

1018
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: him in the top ten, but there's no question the

1019
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: potential is there. Yeah. I mean they have all the

1020
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: to do it it, just like if Tremaine Edmunds comes through,

1021
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: if Star Latula plays as well as he has in

1022
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: his past, if Trent Murphy can get back to the

1023
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: guy he was in twenty and sixteen, if Vante Davis

1024
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: can adapt one of his own defense. These are all

1025
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: things you have to think about. And those are all

1026
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: guys that are in this top twenty. But you'll also notice,

1027
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: as you pointed out Astuteley, the offensive guys really just

1028
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: aren't there because I mean outside of I have Zay

1029
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: Jones on the list because at least he does show

1030
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: flashes and he is still very young into his NFL

1031
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: career and his life. For that man, he's only twenty

1032
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: two years old. So for that, I think you have

1033
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: to think about where can they project to. And so

1034
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: that's why even though Josh Allen isn't even slated to

1035
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: be a starter right now, he comes in the list

1036
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: at number eleven because the potential for getting better is there.

1037
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: So twenty through eight or posted on the website right now, WKBW,

1038
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: Joe Biscalia is going down. He's gonna I guess when

1039
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: are you gonna unveil the rest of him? Or Yeah,

1040
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: number seven's gonna come out later today. We'll do fourth

1041
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: through six tomorrow and then three to two and one

1042
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: on Friday, and then very nice and then we'll go

1043
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: into the fourth of July weekend. Joe Bascalia in all

1044
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: Day with me Steve Tasker. This is One Bills Live

1045
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. We'll be back with man Paul

1046
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Aurora from CBS Sports. You're gonna talk about the new

1047
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: streaming arrangement that CBS has with the NFL. We're gonna

1048
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: find out how affects all of us. We'll be right back, Hello,

1049
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network storys update, the big story coming out

1050
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Police are investigating a body found at

1051
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: the residence of Giants cornerback g Norris Jenkins, although no

1052
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: suspects have been named at this time and Jenkins was

1053
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: not at his residence as he is currently down in Florida,

1054
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: his home state, the victim is said to be a

1055
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: family friend of Jenkins. Aaron Donald, the reigning Defensive Player

1056
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: of the Year, continues to search for a new contract,

1057
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: but an update from one of the Rams execs, CEO

1058
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Demoff, speaking at an event for the team's new stadium,

1059
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: said that the dialogue between the two sides have been

1060
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: great and he was optimistic that a deal would get done.

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Speaker 1: Donald is entering the final year of his rookie deal

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00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: and has been absent from the entire Rams offseason program.

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Speaker 1: Hockey reports this afternoon the Sabers were involved in the trade.

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00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: TSNs Darren Draeger reporting the Penguins forwards Connor Sheery and

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00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: defenceman Matt Hunwick are headed to Buffalo for a two

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00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: nineteen fourth round draft pick. Of course, we're gonna keep

1067
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: you posted and you can listen to the Instigators tomorrow

1068
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: for more on that trade with the Sabers and the Pens. Meantime,

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Speaker 1: Sabers Prospects are hitting the ice for their annual development camp.

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Speaker 1: The camp will feature current Sabers prospects and all six

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00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: players selected at the twenty eighteen NHL Draft, which includes

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Speaker 1: this year's top overall pick, Rasmus dolind. I don't know

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00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: if you have anybody heard about that guy? Yeah, okay?

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00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: Any in previous first round selection Alex Nylander and Ksey

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Speaker 1: Middlestat to the World Cup. Defending champion Germany has been

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00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: eliminated after losing to South Korea two nil. Sweden beat

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00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: Mexico three nothing, but both of those teams will advance

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00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: in Group F thanks to South Korea's victory today. Later

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00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: this afternoon, Serbia versus Brazil and Switzerland and Costa Rica.

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00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Costa Rica already eliminated from the World Cup. And finally, baseball,

1081
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: the Bison's coming off a three one win over Pawtucket

1082
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: last night, continuing their series with the Red Sox tonight

1083
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: at Coca Cola Field, first Bitch Downtown is at seven

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00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: oh five. That's your sports update. After that sports update,

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00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: we're van. We are pleased to be joined by CBS

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00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: employee and I don't know how, I don't know what

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00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: his title is, Man Paul Aurora, NFL. I'm sorry, he's

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00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: with the NFL, not CBS. He's here to talk about

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00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: the new deal between CBS and the NFL about streaming games,

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: Man Paul Aurora. Man, Paul, thank you. You're on with

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: Steve and Joe. Appreciate you coming on. What can you

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00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: tell us about this new deal between the league and

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00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: their television partner, CBS. Hey, Stephen, Joe lakes to meet

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, I know. Um, the new deal with

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00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: CBS is part of a broader set of deals that

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00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: we have done with all our broadcasters to essentially close

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00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: out the Swiss cheese model, a little bit of allowing

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: authenticated access on phones, um, which you know, prior to

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00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: these deals, Uh, they didn't have as fans couldn't access

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: games on phones, they could on tablets and connected TVs

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00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: and PCs, um, And so what this what this deal

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00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: allows them to do allows fans of teams that are

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00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: on CBS watch Now if you authenticate and provide your

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00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: logging credentials, you can also now watch on your phone.

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00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the crux of it. So if

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00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: you have so what do you have to already have

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00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: purchase or what are you what are you forced to

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00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: already own in order to watch these stream You say

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00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: authenticated access to explain again what that means. Yeah, So

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: what that means is you have access to CBS either

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00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: through your linear channel UH, through through through a linear

1112
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: cable provider or satellite provider, or you have you know,

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00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: an account with CBS directly UM through their CBS All

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00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Access platform UM and then if you log in then

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00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: you can now watch on your phone. And basically all

1116
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: you need is your cable or what are your account

1117
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: and password? User name and password for your cable cable

1118
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: account and put it on your phone and presto change.

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00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh you're watching live television correct? Well, I mean I

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: know this is probably for the local games, but you know,

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00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: how much thought is there to potentially, you know, making

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00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: making this a broader thing? So yeah, man, Paul, when

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: are you going to take the lid off? It's it's

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: a fair question. Look, this deal with CBS and again,

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, it's we've done. CBS was the last

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00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: of the broadcasters, and we've kind of done it now

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00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: with all of them, NBC, Box and ESPN as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're committed to the business model that in the in

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00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: the broadcast model that we have, if you're in market,

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: you can get games over the year or as part

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00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: of your cable subscription U through through the broadcast networks.

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00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: But you know, we're still committed to the overall regionalized model.

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00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: So if you're in call it, you know, Ohio or Seattle,

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: You're you're going to get the local game in that

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: market still. Um. And and the reason is, you know,

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: we have obviously a big deal with direct to the

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00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket to get out of market games. And so

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00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, what this deal really did was expand access

1139
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: to a broader set of devices your mobile phone, but

1140
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: does not change the underlying model of regionalization. So that's

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00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of how how we've decided to stick with it,

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Speaker 1: at least for the foreseeable future. So this model, I mean,

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and explain to me, this isn't because maybe I don't know,

1144
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: Because if I have the ticket, can I get any

1145
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: game I want on my phone now if you have

1146
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday ticket, Yeah I believe so, yeah, yeah, right,

1147
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: So this is just really a CBS kind of deal

1148
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: where they've kind of caught up with Fox and NBC

1149
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: and now if you can get CBS local games correct.

1150
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: And you know, the other thing I would mention is

1151
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: as part of this deal with CBS, we also freed

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00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: up tablet rights as part of our mobile deal with

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00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Verizon and NFL Mobiles. So now you'll also be able

1154
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: to watch again regionalized games on any Verizon media properties.

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00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: So they now own Yahoo and Aol and some other

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: properties as well as NFL Mobile which used to be

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00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: gated to only live games, used to be gated to

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00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: only Verizon subscribers. Those those are now also freely available

1159
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: to all the subscribers of any carrier network. And now

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00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: you can watch games there as well, um on phones

1161
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: and tablets. And that was freed up by you know,

1162
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: letting CBS now authenticate games on mobile. On the flip side,

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: we can now do phones and tablets through Verizon and

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00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: NFL Mobile. Hey man, Paul, how much did did streaming

1165
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: those London games kind of change the game from from

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: just getting the product out there in different ways and

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, the way people consume the game itself. Yeah. Look,

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00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: I think those games were extremely important tests for us

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00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: to see a not only is the viewership and audience there,

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: but also technically is as possible is it capable? You know,

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00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a traditional delivery model that that has worked,

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Speaker 1: whether it's over the air or satellite or kind of

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00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: fiber with UH with traditional cable. But the question is,

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00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, digitally, there's there's a lot of other technical

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00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: capabilities that need to need to you know, you need

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Speaker 1: to be able to make sure you can do over

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Speaker 1: it on time and act and with high fidelity. And

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00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: so those are really important tests to do that. And

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00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: of course we did those deals with Yahoo, so now

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00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: so Versing definitely has those capabilities. And I think increasingly,

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: just broadly speaking, we're seeing more more fans on these

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00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: devices we're talking about phones, tablets, wanting to consume content

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: there on the go, and you know, those tests and

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00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: kind of where the way the world is going, I

1185
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: think we want to make sure fans have access to

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00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: NFL games wherever they are and on whatever they're watching.

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Speaker 1: We're with you on one Bills Live with Steve Tasker

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: and Joe Biscalli. We're speaking with man Paul Aurora, an

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: NFL executive. We're talking about the new expanded now into CBS,

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Speaker 1: ability for people to watch NFL games live in their

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00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: region on CBS television. And I got to ask a

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: question we were talking about this early in the show.

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Speaker 1: How fast is this growing? I mean, how big an

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00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: audience is now only watching on devices as opposed to

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00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: over the airways. Yeah, I mean the total audience on

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: digital is i'd say small, but it's growing quickly, and

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: it's growing at a much faster pace than on traditional

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: TV M. But you know, from from our perspective, even

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Speaker 1: though it's it's a smaller component today, we obviously foresee

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Speaker 1: that growing and we want to be ahead of ahead

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00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: of the curve here and make sure that if you're

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00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: a younger fan and this is where you want to watch,

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: you can watch it there. So I want to make

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00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: sure it's it's it's not a closed off access point,

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: even though it's kind of small but growing today. What's next?

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00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, you've got this deal done,

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00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: you're kind of you as you said, you're kind of

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00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: filling the holes that have been there through all these devices,

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00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: tablets and surfaces and now phones are going to be

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: fully integrated. What is next on the agenda for the

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: league and how they're going to let their games be consumed. Yeah,

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is the this is the first

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Speaker 1: year of the Verizon deal, so we want to make

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00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: sure that gets off to a great start. I think

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Speaker 1: we want our broadcasters to be able to let fans

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: know that they can watch everywhere. I think increasingly you'll

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: see the broadcasters, you know, hopefully launch direct to consumer products.

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: CBS is already out there with all Access, and fans

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00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: can watch NFL games through that product as well if

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00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: they're subscribers. So I think what you'll increasingly see is

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00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: the shift to digital and hopefully you know where we are,

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: where the fans are. If we see big trends of

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00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: games being consumed elsewhere, I think we'll evaluate that as well.

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00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: But for now, I think we're pretty excited to have

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00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: unlocked these rates and these access points, and we'd like

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Speaker 1: to see where that goes for the next year or two. Man,

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Speaker 1: Paul Roora, the NFL, thank you so much for joining us,

1228
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: and we wish you the best and we're gonna be

1229
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: excited maybe to have you back and talk about how

1230
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: this has expanded and maybe how fast it's grown. This

1231
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: may be something maybe on the horizon that becomes more

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Speaker 1: than just a small percentage of how these games are consumed. Definitely,

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01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: definitely think that will happen. And thanks for having me on,

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Speaker 1: Man Paul Roy the National Football League. You know, that's

1235
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about all of that is it is

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01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: growing and what it's going to look like and how

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: it's going to affect it. Here's the thing I always

1238
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: envisioned a guy, a fan wanting to go to a

1239
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Bills game here in Buffalo, and you're gonna come up,

1240
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna show up, you're gonna go to your seats,

1241
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: but you want to keep track of that other game. Sure,

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01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: yeah right, I mean it's fantasy football is a thing huge. Plus,

1243
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, sports betting is here. It's not here in

1244
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: New York yet, but it's here. And these are the

1245
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: things that you have to think about and how people

1246
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: consume things. It's it's all. It all leads you to

1247
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: one point where you need you can't be a thing,

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: an entity that restricts how people consume the things, because

1249
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: they want to consume it. If they want it, they

1250
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: should be able to have the ability to get it.

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01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: And so from that, particularly if they're willing to pay

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01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: for it, right exactly, it's the bottom line. That's why

1253
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: all this is. These rights have had to switch taken

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01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: a time. So I think at the end it's it's

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: good that they're taking this baby step, but I mean

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01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: you also have to think of yourself, all right, well,

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01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: what you should be able to make it a little

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01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: bit more accessible? And I know the Sunday ticket agreement exists,

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: but that's said, I mean it almost feels like this

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: is just a baby step to a bigger thing. Yeah,

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: and you think about it too that one of the

1262
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: interesting things that that has added on to this is

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01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: the league never stops thinking about how it can make

1264
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: it better. Particularly and they never stopped thinking about how

1265
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: they can make it better inside the stadium. And you

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: get have to and listen. You've you've seen Atlanta's new stadium,

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: You've seen Minnesota's new stadium. You've seen LEVI feel out

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Speaker 1: and in uh San Francisco or San Jose and now

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Speaker 1: the LA Stadium. We saw it. We had the guy

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Speaker 1: on from the LA Daily News showing us we had

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: pictures that place. He says, going to be off the hook.

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: Atlanta is a palace. If that's better than Atlanta, I

1273
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: don't know what to think about it. So all this

1274
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: stuff they're thinking about and Jerry World down in Dallas,

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01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: So all these stadiums are coming on, and what are

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: they gonna do to allow fans to enjoy the games

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01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: that aren't They're not not just this game, but the

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01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: game that you know they're gonna put Is it gonna

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: be like a an airplane where they have screens on

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Speaker 1: the back of the seats so you can keep tracking, Yeah, right,

1281
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: so you can have runs, you can make bets, you

1282
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: can know all of this stuff. You have to evolve

1283
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: because people aren't putting their butts in the seats as

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01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: much anymore. I mean, if they are, they want their

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01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: money's worth exactly, and the price of admission continues to

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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: go up. And from that perspective, you have to give

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: them reason too, because what if you are if you

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: have this huge setup at your house, your apartment wherever

1289
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: you live, or one of your buddiest yeah a man cave,

1290
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: if you will, And if if they have this huge

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01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: setup and you have just this awesome way to watch

1292
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: the game better angles than what you would get in

1293
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: an actual NFL stadium. Then they have to find a

1294
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: way to compete with that. And that's why incorporating the streaming,

1295
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: incorporating potentially fantasy football sports, betting, everything along those lines,

1296
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: make it easier, make it fun because people want more

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01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: than just the game. Now, it's that simple. As big

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Speaker 1: as fantasy is, gambling is gonna be bigger. Yeah, and

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01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean fantasy pretty much is gambling. But right, yeah,

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: I get you're right. You go to these stadiums now,

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: they all have everybody's got screens everywhere. I mean you

1302
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: go to some of them, like you go to Jerry

1303
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: World down in Dallas, you can't. You can't take a

1304
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: jacket off without elbow and a flat screen. And they're

1305
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: everywhere and every stadium, even on the big screens. Now

1306
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: in view of all the people sitting there watching the game,

1307
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: they've got all the fantasy leaders from around the league

1308
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: on the board all the time, rotating in a constant,

1309
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: constant stream. It's gonna do that when when gambling takes

1310
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: shape and starts to evolve, they're gonna they're gonna adapt

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: to that. In the stadium so that you can keep

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: track of other things that are going on. Or how

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01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: about the ability to place a bet in the stadium. Yeah,

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a crossroad that's probably not close,

1315
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: but it's not close. But guys, how can I then

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: it'll be it' if there's money to be out in

1317
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: front of it, if there's infrastructure there, there's no question.

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01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: Got you know, you look about what they're talking about,

1319
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: what they're doing in the meadowlands in Jersey. That's a

1320
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: state where they're way out ahead of them in front

1321
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: with an NFL two NFL teams right there in the meadowlands.

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01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Who you know they're if if they've got a spot

1323
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: to put windows up and the ability to do it,

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: you know when it will. I mean, I know a

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01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: lot has to go into it, Like the NFL has

1326
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: to do their own fact finding and everything along those lines,

1327
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: and it might be a little bit slow to get there,

1328
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: but they have to face reality. It has to. I mean,

1329
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: the user experience is not the same thing as it

1330
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: was ten years ago. People want more And how about

1331
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: even this, I mean, fans now are smarter than you

1332
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: know because they have so much more access to more information.

1333
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: They can watch coaches film, how about like it on

1334
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: the fly, advanced stats, something along those lines. I mean

1335
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: people people want to be informed and they consume it

1336
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: in a different way, and they like consuming it in

1337
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: in the confines of you know a lot of people

1338
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: like to watch the game while scrolling through Twitter, going

1339
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Different social media is constant. Yeah, I mean

1340
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: that because people want to see the trends and they

1341
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: want I mean, it's just you have to figure out

1342
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: the way to find the best user experience. And if

1343
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: it's that going back to what Man Paul was talking about,

1344
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: if that's getting the streaming and eventually crossing that bridge

1345
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: to where you can stream more than just what is

1346
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: in your area code, then then that's got to be

1347
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: the way. Steve Tasker and Joebiscallion one bills Live. We're

1348
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: talking about the phone interview we just had with Man

1349
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: Paul Roar of the National Football League, and they're kind

1350
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: of enveloping and filling in gaps for all the devices

1351
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be able to watch your games on.

1352
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: Right now, you can only watch your game locally broadcast. Uh,

1353
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Like we're all familiar with the blackout rule. Only the guy,

1354
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: only the teams that you know are in your area code,

1355
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: and unless you have the ticket, you can watch it

1356
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 1: on your on your television at home. But we also

1357
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: have the Twitter poll going today which Buffalo Bill is

1358
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: in the biggest make or break season right now? Shack

1359
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: Lawson is running away with it. The other two choices

1360
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: are Calvin Benjamin and AJ McCarron or anybody else you'd choose.

1361
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Speaker 1: You can you can tweet at us at one Bill's Live,

1362
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: or you can call us at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or outside Buffalo one eight fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: And Joe and I this is the interesting part to

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Speaker 1: me most, probably because you and I are in the

1366
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Speaker 1: business of the media talking about how things have changed.

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Speaker 1: And he said it's a small percentage now for the

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Speaker 1: devices that are being used, but it's growing rapidly. I

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Speaker 1: want number. I want to know what that is. I

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: really interested to see what he can what they consider

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: a small percentage. Uh, I don't think it's one or

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01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: two percent No, I think I think this is going

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the way people consume things, and

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: don't you think that's got to be up at least

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: over five the phone it was like yeah, I mean,

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: the phone was a game changer right right at the outset.

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean how I mean, just think of how many

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01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: different things stream, every every radio station, every TV station,

1379
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: they all stream. And because you have to, you have

1380
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: to give more ways for your product to be out there.

1381
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Otherwise you're you're just falling behind. And so the NFL

1382
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: is still huge, and no matter what happens, they're still

1383
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: going to be consumed by people because they grew up

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01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: with the product. But to make it easier on people,

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: to make them want to continue to do all those things,

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: that's why the phone. And it's going to be something

1387
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: different ten years from now, but but the phone right

1388
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: now needs to be the focus and and putting the

1389
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: ability to have all of these things. And maybe maybe

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: it's the matter of you know, having a subscription to

1391
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: your favorite team or something like that, and then and

1392
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: then go from there. It is this going to change

1393
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: the way you watch the game? Probably not. If you

1394
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: have some thoughts about it, give us a call eight

1395
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: to three oh five fifty or eighty eight five fifty

1396
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: two five fifty, or you can tweet at as about

1397
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. Who do you think is in the

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01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: biggest maker breaks season this season for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Eric richardson Nathan Peterman. He says, Nathan Peterman is the

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Speaker 1: guy who's in the biggest maker breaks season. Josh Allen

1401
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: is the guy, but every team needs that solid backup.

1402
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: Peterman has looked good from the reports and early going

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01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: on this offseason, and he looked great in the preseason

1404
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: last year. But if you can't find a way to

1405
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: outplay McCarron, he may find himself unemployed. And that's that's

1406
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a big battle if AJ McCarron can't work

1407
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: his way into the starting role. And Nathan Peterman is

1408
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: comparable to a J. McCarron in production wise and the

1409
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: way they handle each other with you know, all the

1410
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: other stuff that nobody else knows about. Accept the coaching staff,

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01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: why would you keep a guy making seven point five

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01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: million and not a guy making grand Yeah, if Nathan

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: Peterman beats AJ McCarron, I get to a point where

1414
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: you say, what's the point of keeping a J. McCarron.

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: If Josh Allen beats all both of them, Really, what

1416
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: is the point of keeping AJ McCarron. Because at that point, money, Yeah,

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: save your money. Well, I mean at least push his

1418
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: u the dead cap, though I think it's almost two

1419
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: mill into next year, but I mean, you get you

1420
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: rid yourself of that contract. The only way that I

1421
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of sense for the Bills

1422
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: to keep him going is if he does win the

1423
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: job and they give him a chance to prove that

1424
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: maybe there is something there, and maybe they can try

1425
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: and facilitate a trade next offseason to give themselves some

1426
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: flexibility to give themselves an extra draft pick. But you know,

1427
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: if if Peterman or Allen beats them out, there's there's

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: to me, there's there's no point in keeping that person

1429
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: on the roster. If you have your long term starter

1430
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen on the roster, and you have the

1431
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: guy that this coaching staff firmly believes it in, which

1432
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: is Nathan Peterman, and and they want him to potentially

1433
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: be the long term backup to develop than what's Aj

1434
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: McCarron doing as the inactive three. Not that he's not

1435
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: important or not worthy of the contract that he signed,

1436
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: but because of the experience that he had. I think

1437
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: you're right, and I I just there's so much going

1438
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: on and I don't think there's any question. I think

1439
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: you'll agree with me, and maybe you don't. I think

1440
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: this quarterback competition, this with these three guys that we're

1441
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: talking about. Certainly Josh Allen is not going anywhere, but man,

1442
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: oh man, it seems like an open competition. Oh yeah,

1443
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean there's we've said, somebody's chiming and saying, hey,

1444
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman could be the opening day starter. I agree

1445
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: with that sentiment. Okay, I do hear about that, because

1446
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: that's I don't know if that's the most likely scenario.

1447
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: But by the same token, I do think all these

1448
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: guys have a shot to show what they can do.

1449
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what more does aj McCarron have than Nathan Peterman.

1450
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: They're both fifth round draft picks. They are they're both

1451
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, McCarron has been in the league three years

1452
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: longer than Peterman has. But at the same time you

1453
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: have of Peterman and McCarron essentially getting the playbook at

1454
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: the same time. Peterman showed a better I guess control

1455
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: of the playbook throughout the spring workouts, and from there

1456
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: you have to sit there and think, all right, well,

1457
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: they drafted this guy. McDermott absolutely loves him as as

1458
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: a player as a person, and let's not forget McDermott

1459
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: stuck his neck out on the line in the middle

1460
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: of a playoff run last year for Nathan Peterman to

1461
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: make a start, and I think I think they're still

1462
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: impressed by him in the way that he's kind of

1463
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: bounced back from from what happened last I mean, think

1464
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: about the snow game. He started that game, he was

1465
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: actually having a really good start to his to that game,

1466
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: had a great pass to Kelvin Benjamin, hit him with

1467
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Then he gets a concussion because he tries

1468
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: to make a play and someone hits him right on

1469
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: the head there as he's diving, and then he's out

1470
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: for the rest of the game. And no one remembers

1471
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman from that game. But the Bills do. They

1472
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: understand that there's more to Nathan Peterman than just that.

1473
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: So I honestly believe that he's got a shot to

1474
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: win this thing, and if he does, I don't see

1475
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: the reason in keeping a j mccarren. That's just me personally,

1476
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: But I also think the Bills need to give more

1477
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Speaker 1: of a shot that Josh Allen to try and win

1478
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: this thing out right, because he's got the most talent

1479
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: of all of them. Yeah, I don't think there's any question.

1480
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: But I don't know how much leeway he gets because

1481
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: he's the first pick of the draft, because he's got

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01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: all this attention. I mean, I think this is a

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01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: team and a regime who has steadfastly made sure that

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: whoever they put on the field gave him the best

1485
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 1: chance to win. Yes, And I think that even that

1486
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: even goes back to the quarterback switch last year when

1487
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: they went into La And I've said it a million times,

1488
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: Tyrod Tato threw for fifty six yards in an NFL

1489
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: game at home. That was the Saints game, right, the

1490
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: Saints game. Now, the Saints came in and they were

1491
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: juggernaut and they had a lot of ball possession the

1492
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: Bills didn't have. But man, oh man, you that's you're

1493
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: gonna make a change. That was the point to do it.

1494
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: And I think the Bills knew they were to spot

1495
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: right then in a make or break season where you

1496
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: know they were gonna go for it. I don't think

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: they had the thought in their mind with the seasons begins,

1498
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: they listen, we're gonna try and win some games. They

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: don't know how competitive we're gonna be. Then they got

1500
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: all those turnovers and they stole some games early, and

1501
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: they were in the driver's seat at that point, and

1502
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: they needed a spark and they thought maybe Peterman was it,

1503
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: And of course it turned out it wasn't it could

1504
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 1: it could not have been a worse flameout. Yeah, Peterman

1505
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: gets a chance for redemption at the worst possible time

1506
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: in a foot of snow. Yeah, But he actually he didn't.

1507
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, the conditions were awful. I mean, he

1508
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: made some pretty nice passes. The two that he made

1509
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: Benjamin on that drive. One was on the outside and

1510
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: then the next one is the same kind of throw.

1511
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: But no one remembers that game. That's right, because Joe

1512
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: Webb threw a pass in overtime and bailed him out.

1513
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: That's right. All right, we're gonna take a break right here.

1514
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna later on we're gonna try and get into

1515
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: the top ten guys picked in the National Football League

1516
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Draft this last season. Starts with Baker Mayfield and ends

1517
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: with Josh Rose, and there's eight guys between those guys.

1518
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: Of course, Josh Allen's one, and we're gonna see which

1519
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: one we think, and maybe you can call in and

1520
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: tell us which one you think is gonna make the

1521
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: biggest impact. You can call us at eight o three,

1522
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: five fifty. We're gonna take a break. At two o'clock.

1523
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino, former vice president of officiating, is gonna be

1524
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: on with us talking about the rule changes and also

1525
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: one of the other things that you might not be

1526
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: aware of. There have been four prominent NFL referees, the

1527
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 1: white hats, the guys that you see make the calls

1528
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: on the NFL, they all retired. Is that gonna make

1529
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: an efface? Is that gonna have an effect on the league?

1530
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: And what happens? Come back and join us One Bills

1531
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1532
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker and Joe

1533
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: Biscalia Here at One Bill's Drive. We're gonna talk about

1534
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: the top ten players picked in the National Football League

1535
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: Draft this year and get tune us and before we dinner.

1536
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: We haven't done this very much. I'm gonna take a

1537
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,839
Speaker 1: phone call. This is Sean in South Carolina. Sean, Welcome

1538
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: to One Bills Lives. Steve Right, Joe um Steve, I

1539
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: just wanted to say I grew up watching you man.

1540
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: It's pleasure to talk to you. I appreciate it. I

1541
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: was listening to the segment about the new streaming options,

1542
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know, being being a fan from from out

1543
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: of state, you know, I cannot wait for the day

1544
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: when they can offer some sort of all the cart

1545
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: package outside of direct TV UM just because of the

1546
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: astronomical costs that that it incurs every year. I mean,

1547
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, you get a special for for one year,

1548
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: and the next year your bill goes up a hundred

1549
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: bucks a month. It's crazy, right, you know. So I'm

1550
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. Yeah, I agree with you, Sean,

1551
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: and and thanks for the call. And I think one

1552
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: of the things that you gotta know, and the thing

1553
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: that that gets me is if you only want to

1554
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: watch one team, you should have that option. Yeah, if

1555
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: you're living in wherever, in an NFL city or anywhere else,

1556
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: if you want to watch one team, um By, you

1557
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: should buy the right. You'd be able to buy all

1558
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: the cart at teams games wherever they're playing that year,

1559
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 1: and and watch it wherever you are. Major League Baseball

1560
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: does it, the NBA, I believe does it. I mean,

1561
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: this is this is a way to kind of cut

1562
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: that out. But the NFL is also benefiting from from

1563
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: getting giving those exclusive rights to Direct TV, and so

1564
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: that's the Sunday ticket package and everything along those lines.

1565
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be a slogo. Like

1566
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: like we pointed out with the NFL earlier, everything's kind

1567
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: of a slogo and the things that you think make

1568
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: common sense are just a little bit slow. They don't

1569
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: see that it would make their it would enlarge their

1570
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: platform and the game. I mean, they have this huge

1571
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: footprint anyway, right right, Um, they're not worried about the

1572
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: people who who watch their games. I mean locally in

1573
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: a in a market like Buffalo, if the Bills are

1574
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: on a live game, nobody's watching anything else. No, Yeah,

1575
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: you're right, um. And it's that way in a lot

1576
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: of other cities as well. So I get why they

1577
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: can sit back and say, no, we're doing it the

1578
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: way we want to do it. But I'm telling you,

1579
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: I I think it's it's bad PR but it makes

1580
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: it's frustrating for yeah, same thing. I mean, if if

1581
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: they're not able to watch the game that they want

1582
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: through the proper channels. Well, people are going to find

1583
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: a paying four hundred fifty bucks a year for those games.

1584
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: It's a season ticket. People are going to find a

1585
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: way through back channels on whatever whatever CD placed on

1586
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: the internet they can find. People are going to find

1587
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: a way to watch the game that they want to

1588
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: And if you're the NFL, people make it easy for people. Yeah,

1589
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: you should have the option to watch the games or

1590
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: whatever team you want on a cart. And I love

1591
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: the way the caller Sean from North Carolina or South

1592
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: Carolina just said, just let me pick the games I

1593
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: want to watch. You have, or at least the team

1594
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: that I want to watch. This is the season ticket

1595
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: I want. And I don't have to buy all one

1596
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four games of the NFL or whatever

1597
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: it is. I don't want to have to buy all

1598
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: those hundreds of games just because I want to watch

1599
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: sixteen of them. Nope. And and it just it you're

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: you're preaching of the choir here because because I think

1601
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I mean, everybody feels like

1602
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: we we do, right, I mean, everybody wants what they want,

1603
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: when they want it, and for as cheaply as possible.

1604
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to buy extra stuff. It's it's really

1605
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: that simple. But I think the NFL, like like we

1606
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: pointed out, is just a little bit resistant to that

1607
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: change that they believe in the regionalization aspect. But that said,

1608
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean people are moving to other places if and

1609
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: if they don't have the Sunday ticket package and if

1610
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: they want to see like let's say there's a Bills

1611
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: fan in Idaho, right, I mean, there's there's no there's

1612
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna be no way unless the Bills are in the

1613
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: national game for them to sit there and be able

1614
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: to watch the Bills on their phone. And that's that's

1615
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of when they make you and me. Commissioner will

1616
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: will change all of that. But we're speaking about men.

1617
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: Paul Aurora, who is an NFL executive, came on and

1618
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: said that they have now uniformed the ability to watch

1619
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: regional games on your phone throughout the NFL, although the

1620
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: same old rules apply. You can only watch games in

1621
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: your market. So we've we've been taking a few calls

1622
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: on that. We're also talking about in this segment about

1623
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: the top ten players in this year's drafting, and we

1624
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: all those who regular listeners and kind of follow the league.

1625
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, kind of who those top ten guys are.

1626
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: Our question is and what we wanted to make a

1627
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: discussion we wanted to have is which one of those

1628
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: guys is really going to have the biggest impact on

1629
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: their team? And it's a really kind of a role.

1630
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: When you start to really get down and dig into it,

1631
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a roll of the dice.

1632
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: Particularly at this time of year. You look at the

1633
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: Browns and Baker Mayfield the number one overall pick, and

1634
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 1: the enormous amount of pressure there is to get value

1635
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: out of that spot. Well, they've got a head coach

1636
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: that said, hey, he ain't playing this year. Well, so

1637
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: how big a contribution is Baker Mayfield gonna get? Now?

1638
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: Giants and say, Quon Barkley, he's a great player, a

1639
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: great talent on a team that likes to run the

1640
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: football and needs to run the football to be successful.

1641
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: Is that going to be the case? Is he the

1642
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: biggest one? You know, I understand the question, and you know,

1643
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley is probably a pretty safe bet for

1644
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: this just because he's gonna put up stats and there's

1645
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: no one behind him. But at the same vein I

1646
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: sit there and think to myself as a draft guy, first,

1647
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: I was staunchly against the idea of them taking a

1648
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: running back at the second overall, especially when this was

1649
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: such a quarterback heavy draft, and thinking along the lines of, well,

1650
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other running backs that are gonna have

1651
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: most likely similar production to say Quon Barkley. So even

1652
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: though there's not another running back in the top ten,

1653
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: I feel like somebody like Rashad Penny or or you know,

1654
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: Darius Guiss or Guist I'm sorry, it has has the

1655
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: ability to have a pretty strong impact wherever they are. Um.

1656
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: So I kind of want to go outside of sa

1657
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. I think the guy who's going to be

1658
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: on the field non stop of the top ten guys, um,

1659
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to go with an offensive lineman.

1660
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: I respect offensive lineman, but they're not gonna be that

1661
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: right there. The flash m Roquan Smith of the Bears,

1662
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: I think has a chance to make a huge impact

1663
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: this year. Um, I'm gonna mispronounce his name. Vic Fangio

1664
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: of the the defensive coordinator there. I think he is

1665
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: going to try and make Roquan Smith into an absolute star.

1666
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: And Smith has just a ridiculous skill set for the

1667
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: linebacker position. His ability to go sideline to sideline is

1668
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: really good. And when you have a guy who can

1669
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: cover tight ends like he does, who has the length

1670
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: like he does, it's going to be out there one

1671
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. I think he is a

1672
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: huge impact defender potential as long as he doesn't get injured.

1673
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: And then I think that might be the guy who

1674
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmond, who's probably going to be out on the

1675
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: field one hundred percent of the time for the Bills

1676
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: this year, is going to be battling for hand in

1677
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: hand to be the defensive rookie of the year. What

1678
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: about this guy? I mean, you go down the list

1679
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: and I talk about contributions, which is kind of the

1680
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: way we've worded this, and you kind of start splitting

1681
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: hairs when you talk about how big an impact or

1682
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: how big a contribution. You know, you talk about a

1683
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: guy like Bradley Chubb, who is supposed to be this

1684
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: who has this kind of jadeveon clowney kind of freakish

1685
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: set of skills. When you put a guy like that

1686
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 1: on the other side of a defensive front with Von

1687
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: Miller on a team that was a quarterback away, ostensibly

1688
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback away from being going back to the super

1689
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: Bowl and playing there. That's a guy that is gonna

1690
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: get on the field. He's gonna get a chance to

1691
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: rush the passer. He's gonna get probably single teamed. They're

1692
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time double teaming him and Von Miller.

1693
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna be have him moving around. They're gonna give

1694
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: him a lot of opportunities to do a lot of

1695
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: things for a team that could go deep in the playoffs.

1696
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: If case Keenham can replicate his play from a year

1697
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: ago in Minnesota. Yeah, that's a guy that could be

1698
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: tops on that list. If you look at the roster, though,

1699
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: if does this hurt his potential to do that at all?

1700
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: He's listed as a linebacker. I know he's gonna be

1701
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: a pass rushing extraordinaire so to speak, But is he

1702
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna have his hand on the ground. Denver's got him

1703
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 1: listed as a linebacker, And how much is that transition

1704
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: going to be? How much is he's going to be

1705
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: on the field for them? And I think it's those

1706
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: are very real questions that you know for him pass rushers,

1707
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: it's it either goes one way or the other. They

1708
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: either come out there and just they're just you know,

1709
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: either Bruce Smith. Yeah, but sometimes it takes a while

1710
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: for these pass rushers to get going. Look at Ja

1711
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Daveon Clowney, the guy you brought up. His first year,

1712
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: he was injured, He's been injury riddled, earlness, he was injured,

1713
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: and the talent didn't show through when even when he

1714
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: was on the field. But now he's he's just a

1715
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: complete game wrecker. Um. I wonder if there's a little

1716
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: bit of that for Chubb because Clowney had had to

1717
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: do the same thing he had to He had to

1718
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: go into more of an outside linebacker role, and then

1719
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 1: they started giving him a little bit more responsibility. So

1720
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: I wonder if. And he was also playing on the

1721
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: other side of J. J. Watt, So you'd think those

1722
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: two together it was gonna be like just like what

1723
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's gonna be like for von Miller and

1724
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubby. It didn't work out in Houston. In fact,

1725
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: neither one of those guys have been healthy for more

1726
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: than a handful of games. At the same time, Yeah,

1727
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: the Texans were the Darling defensive pick a couple of

1728
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 1: years ago when they got clowny and of the health issue,

1729
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: they would have been there. They were, They were good.

1730
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: They're still pretty good. And he looked down this list

1731
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the top ten players picked in

1732
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: this this year's draft in the NFL, and we're seeing

1733
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: which one is going to make the biggest impact. And

1734
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: we've gone through se Quon barkley've gone through Roquan Smith,

1735
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: and I was for me, I'm with you, Mike mcglinchief

1736
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: the tackle out of Notre Dame, the guard Quenton Nelson

1737
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame. They better be starting everything they should. Yeah, right,

1738
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: if you're taking a lineman in the top ten, if

1739
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: you're taking a guard in the top ten, he better

1740
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 1: be one of the best guards in the league, but

1741
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: you better be able to plug him in and have

1742
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: him on the field, um, NonStop for for twelve years,

1743
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: no offensive guards. But yeah, I'm with you, I'm totally

1744
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: with you. But then you go down and what did

1745
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: you raise your eyebrows when the Browns after they took

1746
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, went Denzel Ward at cornerback. Yes, yes, absolutely,

1747
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: I did too a big time. The Bills are thankful

1748
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: that that happened, because if if that didn't happen, then

1749
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,839
Speaker 1: they would have had their guy. Yeah, well, they wouldn't

1750
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: have gotten Tremaine Edmunds. It's what it boils down to,

1751
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: because the Broncos would have traded with the Bills and

1752
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: then they would have surrendered twenty two and so that

1753
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: they should be thankful for. But yeah, I was a

1754
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: little surprised by the Browns, especially because they added to

1755
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: their cornerback room in the off season to be a

1756
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: free agency So I think for them, they're just trying

1757
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: to find long term solutions and they thought to themselves, hey,

1758
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 1: if you can get the best potential man, cover corner,

1759
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 1: man press corner like Denzel Ward shows that he has

1760
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: the potential to be, then that's why they did it.

1761
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was absolutely I was absolutely surprised by that.

1762
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: So's Joe Biscalias Steve Tasker on One Bill's Live. We're

1763
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: talking about the top ten guys in the draft who's

1764
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: gonna make the biggest impact. We're also doing our Twitter

1765
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: poll which Buffalo Bill is in the biggest maker break season.

1766
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: You can join us by calling it eight oh three

1767
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: five fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1768
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: You can tweet us at one Bills Live. We're talking

1769
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: throughout the day as well. We had an NFL exact man,

1770
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: Paul Aurora was on talking about the new streaming abilities

1771
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: that you can do now with regional games. That'll affect

1772
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: people here in Buffalo because it's gonna be a lot

1773
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: of CBS games and you can now get them on

1774
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 1: your phone if you have all the other ancilliary services

1775
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: sure that go with it. So not much has changed

1776
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: in that front, although we've that's one of the things

1777
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: that people we got calls about that. We're not getting

1778
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: calls about any of the other stuff. People want to

1779
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: talk about the streaming rights, right, and I think there's

1780
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna be more of that too. You think they're probably

1781
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna be more over the top games as well. When

1782
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: I say over the top, it means games that are

1783
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: viewed live over the Internet and available to do that.

1784
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: And that has been become because of the games you mentioned,

1785
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: because of the games in London. It's becoming more and

1786
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: more of them. Yeah, the London. The London Games were

1787
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: such a good litmus test and I love that they

1788
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: did that because that opened themselves up to realizing that

1789
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: there is a future beyond just television, and it's important

1790
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: to have that for the longevity of your league, to

1791
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: be able to have your product, for the lack of

1792
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: a better term, in people's hands where they want it,

1793
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: when they want it, and that and even though there

1794
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: was not a great broadcast winnow to do it, seeing

1795
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the numbers that they got from having those games on

1796
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Yahoo in London and seeing how many people were interested

1797
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: in it and how it went down and you know,

1798
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 1: how it really stuck through and those numbers didn't go away.

1799
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean that it's all very important, and because they

1800
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: need to figure out a way for you know, life

1801
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: outside the stadium, life outside of the TV deals, and

1802
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: figure out a way to make it work financially, which

1803
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: is what they're probably trying to battle to make what's

1804
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: happening with the phones, you know, be a little bit

1805
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: more conducive to how people consume things. Yeah, and it's

1806
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: it's interesting too because you talk about while you're talking

1807
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: about that, you've got Verizon involved, You've got Direct TV involved,

1808
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: You've got Amazon involved in the Internet and stuff you Facebook, Twitter,

1809
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: all of these entities want rice fee, want to pay

1810
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: money to have the ability to stream games, and it's

1811
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: all revenue for the league. And with all of that

1812
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: stuff going on, and they're pulling money and from all

1813
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: these different entities, why can't they let us buy what

1814
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: we want? Why can't we Why can't I watch a

1815
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: Bills game when I'm in Cincinnati? Yeah, I mean without

1816
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: paying when they're not playing the Bengals. Why can't you

1817
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: know that? That to me is the smallest of hurdle

1818
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: to overcome for most people. Uh, it would open it

1819
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: up to a niche market that is below the NFL

1820
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: ticket and I think they would get I think they'd

1821
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of revenue from that if they if

1822
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: they allow people to do it. Now, they because I'll

1823
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: tell you, they got to rely fantasy. People still want

1824
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: the ticket. There's gonna be a lot of people to

1825
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: still want the NFL. Yeah, they like the red Zone channel.

1826
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: They like all the red Zone channel is. This is

1827
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: it's opium for some of these people. They're they're I mean,

1828
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: you could get down some of these They don't get

1829
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: off the red Zone channel at all. Have you ever

1830
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: tried it? Oh, listen, it's it's like it's can't it's yes,

1831
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: it's I mean it is it's it's just the nonstod

1832
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: is junk food for football, and you're there, your eyes

1833
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: are watering because you're not blinking. It's it's like, yes,

1834
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: it's like God himself has the remote. He's at the

1835
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 1: best spot all the time. He knows you can just

1836
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: give him the wheel. He's working and it's it's it's

1837
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable. See. I haven't had a chance to do

1838
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: it much until this last year. I had a couple

1839
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: of weekends off. Oh my god. And they do a

1840
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: good job with it. But it's life changing. But when

1841
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: you when you look at how the NFL is consumed,

1842
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: let's say outside of America, like all of these other

1843
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: countries that that they can subscribe to the NFL Game

1844
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 1: Day Live and they can they can watch that content

1845
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: whatever game that they want. By by doing that and

1846
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: by doing that fee, and for people to not have

1847
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: the ability to, I guess, pick and choose what they want,

1848
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: it's a tad shortsighted. I understand there's more complex things

1849
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: at play here, like you know, television contracts and you know,

1850
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: keeping that relations ship going because that's still an important

1851
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: commodity to them, and they don't want to tick those

1852
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: people off. But all the same, are you are you

1853
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: doing yourself any damage by not having it available to

1854
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: everyone in every place, um without having to have the

1855
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: right TV service and to have Sunday ticket when they could,

1856
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, spend a little bit less money to get

1857
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: the team that they want to watch and they want

1858
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: to consume. We can totally. I'm totally with you, and

1859
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: I agree with you. We've got to all of that

1860
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: going on. There's so much to talk about with the

1861
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: with the rights fees and how that's changing. And you

1862
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: and I both in this business, we know the landscape

1863
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: is forget about evolving, it's it's tumbling downhill. I mean

1864
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: it's it's changing fast. Also, which Buffalo Bill is in

1865
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the Biggest Maker Break Season? You can call us or

1866
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: tweet us, give us a call eight to three oh

1867
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: five fifty if you want to join us, or you

1868
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: can tweet. As we got to some people that are

1869
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: chiming in, uh from Burton. I'm going with A J.

1870
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: McCarron as the Buffalo Bill who's in the Biggest Maker

1871
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: Break Season because this could possibly be his one and

1872
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 1: only shot shot at a starting role, could determine his

1873
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: entire future as either a starter or a backup. And

1874
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Another one all of the above. He

1875
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: thinks all of our choices are in a make or

1876
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: break season and then some if they want to stay

1877
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: with this coach or have a market value. Kelvin Benjamin

1878
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: has gotten less productive with each year. Uh, Shack Lawson

1879
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: is already on the bubble for lack of his production,

1880
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: and AJ McCarron has a has stiff competition with two

1881
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: guys that are important to this franchise. He wants if

1882
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: he wants to seat at the table of NFL quarterbacks,

1883
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: it's AJ McCarron. And he also could turn into the

1884
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Bill's best trade bait. That includes all three of those

1885
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: guys with Shack Lawson, AJ McCarron, and Kelvin Benjamin. If

1886
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: you if you talk about that in that regard, those

1887
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: guys are all assets that may not have a place

1888
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: here that could turn into a draft pick something. Yeah,

1889
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: And I think we haven't pretty good tweet right there.

1890
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 1: We haven't talked a lot about Kelvin but I think

1891
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: he has a he's a very compelling case because he's

1892
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: the best they have by a model at wide receiver.

1893
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Speaker 1: And but what is he what can he be and

1894
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: specifically what can he be with Josh Allen, because Josh Allen,

1895
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 1: to me, has the type of skill set that can

1896
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: actually take advantage of Kelvin Benjamin. I mean one of

1897
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: the last plays of mini camp was him just throwing

1898
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: a ball up to Kelvin Benjamin and you just see

1899
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 1: Benjamin's hands come out from nowhere because this is what

1900
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: he does best, possession catches, jump ball guy. Yeah, and

1901
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: for him to bring that down and you think you

1902
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: have a quarterback in Josh Allen that will be willing

1903
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: to throw that ball. That's why I think the Bills

1904
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: are kind of playing in a wait and see with

1905
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin because if he and Allen don't connect the

1906
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: way that they think that he can, why would you

1907
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: resign him? But if he does, if he shows that

1908
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: there's a chemistry there, he's still a younger guy, then

1909
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you sit there and say, all right, well, maybe this

1910
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: is someone we need to incorporate in our future. I

1911
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: have said this from the word go with all the quarterbacks,

1912
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: and I always heard this, particularly with Tyrod, about the

1913
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators didn't use him correctly. I didn't agree with

1914
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: that premise. He needed better receivers. I didn't agree with

1915
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: that one either. It has always been my premise that

1916
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback makes the receivers, not the not the reverse.

1917
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: And you can say what you want, and no question

1918
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: that in that Indianapolis game against my argument and that

1919
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin went up and got those two throws one down,

1920
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: both down, that down the right hand sideline as the

1921
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Bills were moving the football in the snow, went up

1922
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: and got it one to move the change on a

1923
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: big play and then the other one to get the

1924
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: touchdown that gave him the lead for most of the

1925
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: football game that they ultimately won an overtime. But it

1926
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: has always been my premise that, because of my experience

1927
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: in the league, that it's the quarterback that makes it. Now,

1928
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: you can have guys running open all day and they're

1929
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: gonna look, they're never gonna get any numbers, they're never

1930
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna get any notoriety, and you're gonna think they stink

1931
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: because the quarterback won't pull the trigger, didn't pull the trigger,

1932
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: won't throw it to them for whatever reason. And when

1933
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,839
Speaker 1: you get to that point, it is the it's the quarterback,

1934
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not the receiver. And I just uh, that's always

1935
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: been my premise. Yeah, I mean, and we can get

1936
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: more into and Calvin Benjamin and and A J. Mccaren

1937
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and even so maybe under the radar guys who who

1938
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: have to want to see him with young guys the

1939
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: two draft picks. Yeah, well we'll see, all right. One

1940
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Speaker 1: Bill's Life presented by Kalid to Health. This is from

1941
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. You're listening to Buffalo Bill's Radio. Come

1942
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Speaker 1: back and join us, give us a call or tweet us.

1943
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Speaker 1: Last year kind of loaded me up with AMMO to

1944
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: h take on this next battle in my life, which

1945
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: is a year two. I would say playing with older

1946
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: guys like Richie and e Wood and like those guys

1947
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: and actually playing it definitely has molded me to the

1948
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: player that I'm going to be in that I am. Now.

1949
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: That's Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bill's offensive lineman, talking about how

1950
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: he's headed into year two of his career. Really, he

1951
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year, got thrust into the starting

1952
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: job when Corty Glenn couldn't go, and played left tackle

1953
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: for an NFL team had Richie Incognito on his right,

1954
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: and also on the other right of Richie was Eric Wood.

1955
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: As he mentioned, and he goes on to talk about

1956
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: this on what Buffalo Bills dot Com. You can go

1957
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: in and listen to what everything that Deon Dawkins has

1958
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: to say. But you know, he's in a spot now

1959
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: where he's he feels like he needs to emerge and

1960
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 1: be kind of one of the pillars of that offensively.

1961
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a nice place to be for a

1962
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: young offensive Yeah, and he's still quite young, has three

1963
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 1: years left on his rookie deal. And if it wasn't

1964
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 1: for his emergence last year when Cordy Glenn was injured,

1965
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen might not have happened. And I say that

1966
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: because playing that go ahead, because Corty Glenn had to

1967
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: be ruled obsolete in a certain sense. They had to

1968
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: be willing enough to trade him. And the only way

1969
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: they were willing enough to trade him was if it

1970
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: was because Dion Dawkins showed he had some ability at

1971
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: tackle and showed some flashes of brilliance and Connor and

1972
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Corty Glenn was dealt to the Bengals for

1973
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: them to move up from twenty one to twelve without

1974
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: that twelfth pick, I don't think they get up to

1975
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: seven the way that they do so in a roundabout way.

1976
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: A guy who they thought was going to come in

1977
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: and compete for the right tackle job ended up being

1978
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: their left tackle and quite possibly their left tackle of

1979
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: the future, and helped pave the way for potentially their quarterback.

1980
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 1: And people outside the Buffalo region that they saw the

1981
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: Bills trade away Corty Glenn, who had been a kind

1982
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: of a well he was the guy, he was plugged in.

1983
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: He was the very good player, the incumbent, the incumbent

1984
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: left tackle, and you see that guy go away or

1985
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: in a trade or they lose him. That put a

1986
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: lot of people on edge about the Buffalo Bill's ability

1987
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: to play well at the offensive line. And a lot

1988
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 1: of people didn't even look in the fact that Dion

1989
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Dawkins was the starter last year. Yes he was for

1990
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: by all intents and purposes, but I think with him

1991
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: he showed flashes of that there could be more. And

1992
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 1: that's what the Bills are to pending on right now.

1993
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: And even if he plays at the same level as

1994
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,919
Speaker 1: he did last year, great, that's fine because it's passable

1995
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: and he's here. They're getting an average to above average starter.

1996
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: But if he shows and builds upon those flashes that

1997
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: we saw in the run blocking game where he gets

1998
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: out in front just crushes people, or in pass blocking

1999
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: shows that athleticism with his footwork that he has. Then

2000
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: he has the ability to become a good starter in

2001
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: this league. And for a low second round pick, that

2002
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: would be a steal. Well, and the thing about it

2003
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: is you say he can run block, and he does

2004
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: get out in front and all that, But the thing

2005
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: that I want to see is consistently are they able

2006
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: to leave him there by himself against a pass rusher

2007
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL and say, Okay, we don't need to

2008
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: send Shady McCoy over to chip that guy, or we

2009
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 1: don't need to put Charles Clay over there or Nicko

2010
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: Leary over there to double team with him, or we

2011
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: don't need the whoever the right left guard ends up being,

2012
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: don't need to move John Miller or vlad Duke Coss

2013
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: out to double team the end. And it was a

2014
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, it was up and down last year

2015
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: for him, which is what you would expect it though

2016
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: normal for a rookie, especially an offensive lineman, thrust in

2017
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: that position when he thought he was probably gonna be

2018
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: playing right tackle in the first place. Yeah, but I

2019
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: think Deon Dawkins himself has a chance to become a

2020
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: lot better than he is and and that's that's why

2021
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are very high on it. Well,

2022
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: when you go into Buffalo Bills dot com, Deon Dawkins

2023
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: my life, it's it's pretty in my view, I'm sorry,

2024
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: and personal relationships make us better on the field. He's

2025
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 1: big team guy. He wants to be a leader. And

2026
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: the stuff he says about becoming of what Eric would

2027
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: and Richie Incognito did for him last year, and of

2028
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 1: course his close friendship with Lashawn McCoy. It's a he is.

2029
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: This seemed like one of those guys that came in

2030
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 1: and is really thriving in the pro game. You see

2031
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: it so often where guys struggle. This is a guy

2032
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: who came in and man, he hit his stride pretty quick. Now,

2033
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: no question, he's got a things to learn about his position,

2034
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: specific position, but the emotions of it, the teammate part

2035
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: of it, the pro aspect of it, of him looking

2036
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: at himself saying, I gotta do this, I gotta this

2037
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: is the guy that really has gotten it from the

2038
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: word go. And he might be on the shortlist of

2039
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: the most entertaining offensive lineman that her talk to you.

2040
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is unique. I mean I think

2041
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: in that piece you're talking about he said something along

2042
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 1: the lines of like I strive to do things that

2043
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 1: people think big guys can't do, like longboarding or something

2044
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: like that. He's an interesting dude. If you want to

2045
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: get in on the conversation, call us eight h three

2046
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: oh five fifty outside Buffalo one eighty eight five fifty

2047
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 1: two five fifty, or you can tweet at us. We're

2048
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: coming up. We're gonna take a break and at coming

2049
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: up at two o'clock, right after the top of the hour,

2050
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with Dean Blandino. He's the college football

2051
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: Officiating director of Instant Replay, the Fox Sports and college

2052
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: football rules analyst. He was the former National Football League's

2053
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Vice president of Officiating from twenty thirteen up until two seventeen.

2054
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: He'll join us just after two o'clock. This is One

2055
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio

2056
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Helo Hills Radio Network Sports Stop Date. Police are investigating

2057
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: a body found at the New Jersey residence of Giants

2058
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: cornerback genors Jenkins. Although no suspects have been named at

2059
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: this time and Jenkins was not at his residence as

2060
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: he is currently down in floor to his home state,

2061
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 1: the victim is said to be a family friend of Jenkins.

2062
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, the reigning defensive MVP of the Year, continues

2063
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: to search for a new contract, but an update from

2064
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: one of the Rams execs, COO Kevin Demoff, speaking at

2065
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: an event for the team's new stadium, said that the

2066
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: dialogue between the two sides have been great and he

2067
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: was optimistic that a deal would get done. Donald is

2068
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: entering the final year of his rookie deal and has

2069
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: been absent from the entire Rams offseason program. Hockey, the

2070
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: Sabers were involved in a trade Penguins forward Connor Sheary

2071
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: and defenseman Matt Hunwick are headed to Buffalo for a

2072
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 1: two nineteen draft pick. Sheery had a breakout season in

2073
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen seventeen, scoring twenty three goals and thirty assists

2074
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 1: in just sixty one games. Meantime, Sabers prospects are hitting

2075
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: the ice for their annual development camp. The Campbell feature

2076
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: current Sabers prospects, and all six players acted at the

2077
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen NHL Draft, which includes this year's top overall

2078
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: pick Rasmus Daleen, the previous and the previous first round

2079
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 1: selections Alex Kneelander and Casey Middlestat to the World Cup.

2080
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Defending champion Germany has been eliminated after losing to South

2081
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Korea two nil. Sweden beat Mexico three nothing, but both

2082
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: of those teams will advance in Group F thanks to

2083
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 1: South Korea's victory Today. Andy and just about to get

2084
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 1: under way Serbia versus Brazil and Switzerland, and Costa Rica.

2085
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Costa Rica already eliminated from the World Cup. And finally, baseball,

2086
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: the Bison's coming off a three one win over Pawtucket

2087
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: last night, continuing their series with the Red Sox tonight

2088
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: at Coca Cola Field. First pitch is Downtown, is set

2089
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: for seven oh five. If that is your sports update,

2090
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: We're pleased to be joined now Steve Tasker along with

2091
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: Joe Biscalia on One Bills Live, joined by Dean Blandino,

2092
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: college football officiating director of instant replay, Fox Sports and

2093
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: college football rules analyst and former NFL VP of Officiating

2094
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen, Dean, Steve Tasker, and

2095
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: Joe Biscallia, thank you for joining us. You got it, guys.

2096
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 1: How are you doing And we're doing great. We've got

2097
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: a couple of things we want to hit touch base

2098
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: with you. A lot of stuff going on. First of all,

2099
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: we miss you in the replay booth. There was a

2100
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 1: couple of snaffoos this year that should have been overturned

2101
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 1: or shouldn't have been overturned, and we're done the opposite.

2102
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: So we miss you. Dean. I hope you're enjoying your

2103
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: new gig. Yeah, I am enjoying it, but I do

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Speaker 1: I do miss being a part of the NFL and

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01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: being in that room making some of those decisions that

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01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 1: was always always a lot of fun. Talk to us

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01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about from Afar, what you've been able

2108
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 1: to observe about the new they're they're revamping the catch

2109
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: rule again. They're doing a lot of the rules changes.

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01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 1: Anything that was unexpected from your end from your observations,

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01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there was anything unexpected what

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01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 1: we saw last year. A lot of conversation about the

2113
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: catch rule, you know, I don't think I don't think

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01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: the conversation necessarily was because of the rule it self

2115
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: was was a problem. I think the application of the

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01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: rule and some of the replay decisions, like you alluded to,

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01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: UM let everyone to kind of look at it again

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01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: and uh and and make the change. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a I think it's a good change if it can

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01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 1: be if it can be officiated consistently, and if it's

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01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 1: applied consistently in replay. I think you look at the

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01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: helmet rule, player safety is the number one priority, and

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01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 1: I think the league and the Competition Committee are going

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01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: to continue to try to take the head out of

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01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: the game. And I think that's what we're seeing with

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01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,560
Speaker 1: this rule, and uh and again, if it can be

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01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: officiated consistently, I think it's ultimately a good thing. Do

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01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: you think it's the game is going to look significantly

2129
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: different because of the head the helmet rule? You know,

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01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you'll ever unless you take

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01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 1: the helmets off and go back to the leather helmets,

2132
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: and and and or you know, prior to that, I

2133
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: don't think you're ever going to be able to take

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01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 1: the head out of the game. It happened so fast,

2135
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: there's going to be those those collisions. But I think

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: you are going to see, and I think we've seen

2137
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: it over the course of ten fifteen years, the players

2138
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: are adjusting. You see those, you know, the hits that

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01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: used to happen over the middle with the safety coming

2140
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: over and taking that shot. You don't see that as

2141
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: much anymore. And I think the players are adjusting, the

2142
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 1: coaches are adjusting. So I don't think it's going to

2143
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: drastically change what the game looks like. But I do

2144
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: think you're just seeing again that that emphasis on players

2145
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 1: safety and everybody seems to be, you know, on the

2146
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: same page, Dana. On the surface, it's it seems like

2147
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: that rule is mostly for defenders launching themselves or you know,

2148
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: just creating safety in that same sense. But I think

2149
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the contention from defensive players around the league,

2150
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: at least when the rule came down, was that what

2151
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: about the running backs and the offensive players that lower

2152
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: their heads? Are they going to be called for this?

2153
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: And the consistency with that, Yeah, I mean in theory

2154
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: that it applies to both both offense and defense, So

2155
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: it could be a runner lowering their head and initiating

2156
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: contact with the helmet, or a player delivering a block,

2157
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: so you just don't see it called all that often

2158
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: on the back. You know, we put in a rule

2159
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen the examples we use some of the

2160
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 1: backs that lowered their head and actually use the crown

2161
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 1: of the helmet to make to make forcible contact. So

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01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: it is going to apply. I just don't know if

2163
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: that's something that the officials right now feel comfortable calling,

2164
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: because you do have you know, you have that have

2165
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: to take into consideration that the back is going to

2166
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: try to protect themselves, the back is going to try

2167
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: to get low, and you have to differentiate between doing

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01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: that and actually delivering a blow with the helmet. Yeah,

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01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 1: there seems like there's a significant gray area there, no question,

2170
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: no question. We're speaking with Dean Blandino College football Officiating,

2171
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: director of Instant Replay and former NFL VP of Officiating. Dean,

2172
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: something I got to ask you, maybe you can or

2173
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 1: cannot speak to it. You've had four pretty prominent NFL

2174
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 1: referees all retire this year. Was the writing on the

2175
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 1: wall for that? Is there some sort of philosophical change

2176
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 1: that's happening? Was the Ed Hockeyley, Jean Stator, Jeff Triplett,

2177
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: and Terry mcaulay all calling it quits. Is that something

2178
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: that you saw coming? And how is the league equipped

2179
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 1: to handle the retirement of some pretty experienced head officiating officials. Well,

2180
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, it is something that we did see coming.

2181
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: You know, when I took over twenty thirteen, one of

2182
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: the things we talked about was we've got some referees

2183
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: that are getting towards the end of their career and

2184
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: we have to start we have to start preparing some

2185
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: of our younger officials to become referees. So we did

2186
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:29,839
Speaker 1: see this coming. I don't think the league anticipated four referees,

2187
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: especially three of them going to the broadcast booth, which

2188
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: is what happened in the case of mcaulay now with

2189
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: NBC Sterritor and Triplets. So I think they were prepared

2190
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: for maybe two referees to step down, But I don't

2191
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: know if four is a big number When you have

2192
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 1: seventeen total, four is a big number, and it's going

2193
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: to be a challenge for the league with four first

2194
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: year referees going in, especially with all these rules changes

2195
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: and this emphasis on replay and player safety. I think

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting challenge for the league.

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01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 1: This year. Yeah, and that's one of the things that

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01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: give us a quick synopsis if you can about your experience.

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01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: You know, how these officials are prepared for this, and

2200
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: how they move up the ranks and where they get

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01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: them from. Tell us a quick give us a quick

2202
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: synopsis of the pipeline that comes to the NFL officiating crews. Yeah,

2203
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: So you have officials that you scout. There's regional scouts

2204
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,679
Speaker 1: all over the country and a very comprehensive scouting program,

2205
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: just like the clubs do. And so they're scouting officials

2206
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: all over the country at all levels of college football.

2207
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: And so you're looking at officials at different positions, but

2208
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: you're also looking at officials that can ascend to the

2209
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: referee position. And so you have this pipeline of officials

2210
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 1: at each position, but then you also have a group

2211
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: of officials that you think could be potential referee. So

2212
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: you what the league has done and what we've done

2213
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 1: in the past is you're giving those those officials will

2214
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 1: snaps at referee during the preseason. You're you're having them

2215
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: go with um, you know, current referee to training camps,

2216
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: to many camps, things like that and help them prepare

2217
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 1: as a referee prepare the crew, get that get that

2218
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 1: look from behind the offense, and so that that's been

2219
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 1: happening over the last several years. So I think the

2220
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 1: officials that have now become referees are prepared. But again,

2221
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: you just never know, just like a player, you know,

2222
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: you just never know until they step in during the

2223
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: regular season, how they're how they're actually going to do right.

2224
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: And to your point, I mean, from the psychological aspect

2225
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: of it, how much how difficult is it for someone

2226
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: in that position for the first time, How difficult is

2227
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 1: it for them to not become a prisoner of the

2228
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: moment when things are really going in a in a

2229
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: big game that maybe they weren't a referee for the

2230
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: main referee for before and now that they are in

2231
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: that position, there's no question. And look the referee from

2232
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: from a purely XS and O standpoint, the referee position

2233
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: is there. There are more difficult positions on the field

2234
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 1: to officiate from, but the referee, that's the manager. You

2235
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: have to You have to manage the game. You're making

2236
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 1: the announcement, you're keeping everything under control. So you're a

2237
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: game manager more than anything else. You have to keep

2238
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: your crew together. You have to be an amateur psychologist

2239
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: during the week and working with your crew. And so

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01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 1: that's going to be the test of these younger officials

2241
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 1: that become a referee. Not calling holding, not calling rough

2242
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: from the passer, but can I manage my crew all year?

2243
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: Can I Can I bring somebody up when maybe they

2244
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 1: had a rough game the week before? Can I keep

2245
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: the crew together when maybe the game is getting out

2246
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 1: of control. That's going to be the true test. Dean

2247
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 1: Blandano college football officiating, director of Insta Replay and former

2248
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 1: NFL of VP of Officiating. Dean, you've you kind of

2249
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: one of the things that you said when when you

2250
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: were leaving the NFL is that it was hard to

2251
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 1: even though you said you enjoyed it and you kind

2252
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: of miss your time there, it was kind of hard

2253
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: to be around an atmosphere of negativity. And you get

2254
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: during the season when you're constantly in contact with these coaches,

2255
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: head coaches and general managers whose team has you know,

2256
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 1: either been on the wrong end of a call or

2257
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 1: wrong end of a replay review. Talk to us a

2258
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: little bit about that dialogue and what that's like on

2259
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 1: a week to week basis. Yeah, I mean it's it's

2260
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: a it's something that you just deal with. You are

2261
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: you are a customer service agent during the during the season,

2262
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you're dealing with people that have complaint. You're

2263
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: dealing with people very rarely. Are you getting that phone

2264
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,600
Speaker 1: call on Monday to say, hey, the crew did a

2265
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: great job. It does happen, but it's most of the

2266
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: calls are going to be something there's an issue, and

2267
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 1: so you have to you have to be a good communicator.

2268
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: You have to be able to you know, to get

2269
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: people um to see your point of view and see

2270
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: your perspective and have that have a productive dialogue versus

2271
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: getting into an emotional exchange. So that was something I

2272
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: always try to do, is I take my emotion out

2273
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: of it and uh, and I understand what the pressure

2274
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 1: of these coaches have, you know, livelihood, dirt steak, things

2275
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 1: like that. So I take my emotion out of it.

2276
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: And you're just trying to You're just trying to make

2277
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: them see, you know, where where you're coming from. If

2278
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: the officials made a mistake, you've got to be transparent.

2279
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 1: You have to admit it and uh. And that's just

2280
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,520
Speaker 1: part of the job. You know that that head of officiating.

2281
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: You're you're dealing with relationships, you're building those relationships, and

2282
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: you're dealing with people that aren't happy a lot of

2283
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: the time during the season. So that's one of the

2284
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: bigger challenges Dean, I know we kind of let off

2285
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 1: with this, but going back to just the catch rule

2286
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: for for a bit, I know it's it's been rectified

2287
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 1: a little bit where it's a little bit more logical,

2288
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more common sense. Is this the right

2289
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 1: way to to enforce the catch rule? Is this just

2290
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: the first step towards another change that needs to happen.

2291
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: I mean, in your mind, what in your perfect world

2292
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: would be a catch? You know? I think I think

2293
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: this is this is as close as we could possibly

2294
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: get to marrying what what officials can officiate consistently with

2295
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: what people believe a catch should be. I think they're

2296
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: the problem with the old rule. While it was I

2297
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 1: do believe there was a more definitive line and what

2298
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: was a catch and what wasn't a catch. There was

2299
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: less of a gray area. I think there were those

2300
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: plays that everybody thought should have been a catch and

2301
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: the rule said different. So I think that's that's what

2302
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: this rule accomplishes some of those plays. Did Jesse James

2303
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: play some of these other plays that people say, you

2304
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 1: know that should be a catch? Okay, this rule makes

2305
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: that a catch. But again my concern is can the

2306
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 1: official in real time on the field make that call consistently?

2307
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 1: Is it a football move? Did you have time to

2308
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: perform at that common to the game. So those are

2309
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: the things that are going to be the challenge. And

2310
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: again you do have a replay, so hopefully the standard

2311
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: is applied consistently in replay and the rule will work.

2312
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to eliminate controversy about

2313
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: the rule. I think you're always going to have that.

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01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: We've had that for as long as I've been a

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01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: part of the NFL, going back over twenty years. Yeah,

2316
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: I agree, And no matter how you write the rule,

2317
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: you're going to have a few instances, maybe more than

2318
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 1: a few instances, that are going to be in the

2319
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: gray area of whatever however you write the rule, exactly

2320
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: one of the questions I had for you, and I

2321
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: think you may agree with me or may not. These

2322
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,600
Speaker 1: guys that are all going into the booth and the

2323
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 1: networks that are bringing the former officials into the booth

2324
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 1: and giving explanations for what the officials are thinking and

2325
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: how it works. I think it's been a really good

2326
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 1: thing for the viewers. I don't know how good it's

2327
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 1: been for the game, because you're getting quality guys off

2328
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,720
Speaker 1: the field, not that there aren't quality guys being fed

2329
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 1: in the other end, like we just mentioned, but I

2330
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 1: think it's been good that the league has been so

2331
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 1: transparent with the catch rule and the helmet rule, and

2332
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: UM and the and the all all the other rules

2333
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: that they tweak every year. As transparent as the league is,

2334
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: I think that's actually a really good thing, don't you.

2335
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I do, I do. I think it's I think it's good. Look,

2336
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 1: the the fans at home are are lifting to the

2337
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: broadcast and the you know, the broadcasters are going to

2338
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: be the voice of authority and a lot of times, look,

2339
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: they're not expected to know the rulebook like officials are,

2340
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: and so to have somebody that understands the intricacies of

2341
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:55,759
Speaker 1: the rulebook and being able to explain it coherently is important.

2342
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: And I think this was something that Mike Carrera, you know,

2343
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: he started, and it was it was it was great thing.

2344
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: You know, you created this little kind of cottage industry,

2345
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 1: and now you're seeing all of the networks understand the

2346
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,560
Speaker 1: importance of it. I really think the Super Bowl illustrated

2347
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,480
Speaker 1: the need for it. You know, you have the Zachert's

2348
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: play where you know there was a lot of confusionists

2349
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: to what was the call, what was the rule, and

2350
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: you really didn't have that officiating voice to be able

2351
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: to step in and definitively say one way or the other.

2352
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that I think the networks

2353
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 1: understand now how important it is. I think the one

2354
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 1: thing that might infuriate fans more than what the catch

2355
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: rule used to be would be the speed it takes

2356
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: for the individual reviews themselves. And I know it's a

2357
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: complex process, but you're also seeing I don't know if

2358
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: you watch the World Cup at all, but you see

2359
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: the World Cup, they go to the VR and those

2360
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: reviews are done almost instantaneously, where they're back on the field,

2361
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: they've made their ruling, and on they go with the game.

2362
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: How much of a challenge is it to become more

2363
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: of a streamline process for the NFL to where people

2364
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 1: aren't in that tune out factor, to where oh, here

2365
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: we go with another review again. I mean, there's no

2366
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: question that is a priority and a challenge for the

2367
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: league to streamline that process. I think that's why you

2368
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: see them going to more of a centralized process where

2369
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: it goes back to New York. Do you do have

2370
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 1: a built in delay? As long as the referee is

2371
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 1: a part of the process, there's going to be that

2372
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 1: built in delay. The referee has to talk to the coach,

2373
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: they have to talk to the current officials, go over

2374
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: to the monitor. So I think there is going to

2375
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: be something somewhat of a delay, But I think that

2376
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: process can continue to be streamlined where if you have

2377
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: the shot, you have the angle, there's no need to

2378
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: look for additional information make the decision to move on.

2379
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: I think they're doing a great job. I have been

2380
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: watching a lot of the World Cup matches, and I

2381
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: think even though that's a new the VR, that's a

2382
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 1: new process, I think they're doing a great job at

2383
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: least streamlining it and making it more efficient. Dean Blandino,

2384
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 1: former Vice president of NFL of officiating for the NFL,

2385
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 1: as you got one more thing before we let you go.

2386
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: Your current deal is with college football officiating. You're the

2387
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: director of instant replays or anything or new wrinkles or

2388
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: anything that the college game does better that the NFL

2389
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: should take note of. You know, I think I think

2390
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 1: both leagues and both both organizations do a great job.

2391
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of interaction between the NFL and the

2392
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 1: NCAA that there's an exchange of ideas, you know, the

2393
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 1: different meetings, competition committee, officiating meetings, UM, there's representation from both.

2394
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: So I think I think both sets of rules work

2395
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: for the game itself. I think the NFL probably does,

2396
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: UM is further along in terms of some of the

2397
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: timing rules and the games are a little bit um

2398
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: more efficient in terms of the administration of the games.

2399
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 1: I think I think college maybe further along. And you

2400
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 1: know with the catch rule, and they obviously have the

2401
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: targeting rule, which is which has been a point of controversy,

2402
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: but ultimately that's a you know, that's a good rule. Again,

2403
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: it just comes down to consistent, consistency and how it's officiated.

2404
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: Dean Blandino, college football director official of Vinctant Replay, former

2405
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: NFL VP of Officiating, Fox Sports and college football rules analyst,

2406
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,839
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for taking a few minutes and spending

2407
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: with us. You gotta. It's one of the things when

2408
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. He is and the league does

2409
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: get this right when they put somebody an official underneath

2410
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: the hood of the ten to do it, every guy

2411
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 1: goes to the same guy, so the league has one

2412
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: guy making the judgment so as consistent as they can make.

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01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: You don't have four guys doing three games each, you know,

2414
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 1: on a roekend. And Dean Blandina was that voice from

2415
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen. Then he took the job

2416
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports in college football rule as of rules analyst,

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01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: and the league was worse for it. That guy was.

2418
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: He was the only guy I really knew had a

2419
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 1: handle on the catch rule, and his philosophy and outlook

2420
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 1: and the way he saw things really helped the league

2421
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: progress towards where they are now. And he was the

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01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: guy when there were fewer controversies when he was making

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01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: those calls in their worth list last year. I'm so

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01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: glad there's more common sense to the catch rule now.

2425
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it took it quite honestly, took

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01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 1: away from the experience watching the NFL last year because

2427
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: he brought up the the Jesse James catch. The one

2428
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: Bill's fans will point to would be the Kelvin Benjamin

2429
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: touchdown that that was overruled. The league said that it

2430
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: should not have been right and they specifically pointed to

2431
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 1: that to that one, among others. And when you have

2432
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: those high of stakes and those big of plays just

2433
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: go the opposite way. It's like, what are we doing here?

2434
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: What do we watch? Why? Why is this all happening?

2435
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 1: Frustrating and the more and now the frustrating part is

2436
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: going to turn the attention back to and what I

2437
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: brought up with Dean, the timeliness of it all because

2438
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: people now they want to streamline their experience because NFL

2439
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 1: games are long as it is, and and if you

2440
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: can get the right call, and a lot of times

2441
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 1: it's obvious to people. It's like, oh, that's that's a

2442
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: that's a catch, or oh that's a fumble. His knee

2443
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: was clearly on the ground. It doesn't need to take three, four,

2444
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 1: five minutes to get that through. So the NFL needs

2445
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: has some work ahead of them to be able to

2446
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: streamline all of those experiences to where it's more user friendly,

2447
01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, that's what this

2448
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: whole thing it's about it's not about the sanctity of

2449
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: the game. It's about it being user friendly and keeping

2450
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: people watching and keeping people intact with everything and not

2451
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 1: ticking them off. Yeah, you're a Steve Tasker and Joe

2452
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 1: Biscallion One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We are

2453
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 1: in the midst of talking about the NFL. We just

2454
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 1: had Dean Blandino on, the former vice president of NFL Officiating.

2455
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: We also have a Twitter poll which Buffalo Bill is

2456
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: in the biggest make or break season. We also had

2457
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: a conversation about the new streaming policies. Actually not new,

2458
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 1: it's actually expanded to CBS and now Buffalo Bill games

2459
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: will be able to be on your phone if you

2460
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: have all the proper etiquette and authentication to get on

2461
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 1: and watch it. You can hold it on your phone.

2462
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 1: You don't have to have a tablet or a surface,

2463
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 1: So that's becoming more uniform. We're talking about the changing

2464
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: landscape of the media and how it's been affected by it.

2465
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: If you want to get in on the conversation. Eight

2466
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty, we have a call from Jonathan

2467
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: in Alden. Let's go ahead and talk to Jonathan. Jonathan,

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01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 1: how are you doing, Thanks for being on one Bills Live.

2469
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: What's on your mind say to the show? As to

2470
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: a Twitter poll, I think Nathan Peterman has the most

2471
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 1: approved because, um what I've been here and he's been

2472
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: on Power with Josh Allen and um Eric Agent mccarrithy,

2473
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 1: Trip Maycapp, and I think it really wants absolutely embarrassment

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02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 1: and the stand the Los Angeles Charters game. I think

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02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 1: he I think he has I think he has the

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02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 1: most proved the makeup break for him. So what do

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02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I think it's a good that's a

2478
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: good call, And you're right. I mean, if you're gonna

2479
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: look at him and what he has to overcome, really,

2480
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 1: the only thing he has to overcome at this point

2481
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 1: is that is the scar tissue from having a bad out. Yes,

2482
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: in in Los Angeles, He's going to live with that

2483
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: probably for the rest of his career here in Buffalo.

2484
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 1: Even if he goes on becomes a starter, whatever happens,

2485
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 1: if it turns into a Kirk Cousins type scenario where

2486
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 1: he's a you know, the second guy picked behind Robert

2487
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: Griffin the third and he comes on and all of

2488
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he's the most sought after player. If something

2489
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: happens where it turns into him being a starter getting

2490
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: significant playing time and he starts to play well, he'll

2491
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 1: always be carrying that around with him. Yeah, and in

2492
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: that part he needs to get over. But in terms

2493
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 1: of make or break, I don't know if it is

2494
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 1: for him this year because I look at how they

2495
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: want to shape their roster and who they want to

2496
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: have on the rest or the type of people, the

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02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: type of players they want, they love Nathan Peterman. I

2498
02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's going anywhere no matter if he if

2499
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 1: he wins the job or is the main backup this year.

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02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 1: I think he's on the roster in twenty eighteen, and

2501
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: if if he can show development behind the scenes, even

2502
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: if he doesn't win the job to be a potential

2503
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: long term backup, then that's gonna go very well for him.

2504
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: But I think the Bills love him, and I don't

2505
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 1: think they're gonna move on from him anytime soon. Yeah,

2506
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: that's I think it's an interesting question. But there's no

2507
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 1: question that Peterman does have some things to prove, but

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02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the opportunity to do that. Yeah, And

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02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 1: they and this is a staff that's going to given

2510
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: every chance to do just that. Oh yeah, and right

2511
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: opening up with training camp, he's going to be one

2512
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: of the two guys getting first team reps because Josh

2513
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: Allen won't consistently beginning them. Now, I think that needs

2514
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 1: to change once they're like a week maybe week and

2515
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 1: a half into camp, because you have to give the

2516
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 1: rookie a fair shot to win the job, especially if

2517
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: he's showing the signs that you need him to early

2518
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: on in camp. But he definitely showed some showed some

2519
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 1: life and showed some steps forward in the right direction

2520
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: at the end of mini camp to where it should

2521
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 1: be a three man competition before too long. Yeah. In

2522
02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll, which Buffalo Bill's players facing a make

2523
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: or break season in twenty eighteen and why Shack Lawson

2524
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 1: is actually running away with at sixty nine percent, this

2525
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 1: is this is the bane of my existence, bad Twitter polls.

2526
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody running off with it. I don't

2527
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: want to be easy. Well, he is the obvious, so obvious,

2528
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:35,800
Speaker 1: So we got we got a tweet for on the

2529
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Steve Noble. I selected Shack Lawson, but

2530
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 1: I think Zay Jones could also be a contender. The

2531
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 1: Bills traded up to get him in the second round,

2532
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 1: and he didn't have the best season last year, and

2533
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: the incident during the offseason didn't help. He may have

2534
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 1: to show up in a big way. There are a

2535
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:53,600
Speaker 1: lot of people who have been chimed in on Colled k.

2536
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: It has to be McCarron. I mean, there's always a

2537
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 1: market for wide receiver or defensive end. If he doesn't

2538
02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 1: make the Bills roster, no telling if he'll get another

2539
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: chance to start elsewhere as a quarterback. You're right, this

2540
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 1: is really McCarron's first opportunity. If not, it's probably not

2541
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: his last, but it is his first opportunity, the only

2542
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 1: one he's had in the four years he's been in

2543
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 1: the league to start to win a starting job. He

2544
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 1: had no shot in Cincinnati, was a fifth round draft

2545
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:21,879
Speaker 1: pick playing behind a quarterback who was getting their franchise

2546
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 1: at least two the playoffs every year. In Andy Dalton,

2547
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,920
Speaker 1: although he has yet to win a playoff game, they

2548
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 1: were a team that was a playoff team and a

2549
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 1: j McCarron had no shot at breaking into that lineup.

2550
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: And this moving to Buffalo after he petitioned the league

2551
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: to get him out of his contract in Cincinnati, they acquiesced,

2552
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: he became a free agent and this is his chance.

2553
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he

2554
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: shows up a major proving round for him. Shack is

2555
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 1: Shack is the probably the best answer here. But there's

2556
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 1: also some under the radar guys that we kind of

2557
02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: talked about off the air that I mean, maybe it

2558
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 1: might be worth it to get into, just just as

2559
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: kind of like the yeah like that. On the other side, well,

2560
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean some offensive linemen out there maybe, like yeah,

2561
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: maybe John Miller. Yeah, well, I mean there's a few

2562
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 1: others too that we can get into. We can't. All right,

2563
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna take a break here the one

2564
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live on One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2565
02:04:16,320 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Back to One Bill's

2566
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Live Steve Tasker and Joe Viscali. We're gonna do NFL

2567
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: true and false right now, and interesting stuff going on.

2568
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,240
Speaker 1: At this point of the offseason, they start laying odds

2569
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 1: on who the MVP is gonna be in the National

2570
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: Football League NFL True or false. Number one we have

2571
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,000
Speaker 1: three of the one or number one. Blake Bortles when

2572
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: he will be an MVP candidate in two thy eighteen.

2573
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and right now he's sixty six to one

2574
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 1: against That is blatantly false. That is blatantly false. But

2575
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:01,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting to because you go and follow the follow

2576
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 1: the route, and it's got the top guy the lowest

2577
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 1: odds is Aaron Rodgers thirteen to two. Then Tom Brady

2578
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: seven to one, goes up through Carson Wentz, jumps to

2579
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: nineteen to two, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson. You get down

2580
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: to the bottom of that list at tied at last place,

2581
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: listed three quarterbacks Sam Bradford one hundred and twenty five

2582
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 1: to one with Nick Foles and Tyrod Taylor. How about

2583
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: how about this for a little bit of a stat

2584
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: to kind of fire up Bills fans. Blake Bortles is

2585
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: sixty six to one, only slightly worse odds than one

2586
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy at sixty to one. How do you feeling

2587
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Maybe because Bortles team is is is

2588
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot you know, v when MVP is a quarterback

2589
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,080
Speaker 1: with a good defense. True, Yeah, I know I'm with

2590
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 1: you that. I'll tell you this. Aaron Rodgers thing. And

2591
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 1: he might be MVP. He could be, but I don't. Hey,

2592
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win the Super I'm telling you right now.

2593
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: Here's my thought. It just occurred to me as we

2594
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 1: were in the break going over this. I Aaron Rodgers,

2595
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,920
Speaker 1: the Packers aren't going to win the Super Bowl. They

2596
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 1: proved their roster is not good enough without him. They

2597
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: were five and eleven and they look bad doing it.

2598
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, when you get into the playoffs, yeah,

2599
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna make some plays. But the deeper

2600
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: you get into the playoffs, the divisional round, the championship game,

2601
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: and certainly the Super Bowl, you don't win unless you

2602
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 1: have a complete team. And that roster is not complete.

2603
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: And they did some work this offseason. They did. Everybody did.

2604
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 1: Everybody did, but man, they got a couple of key

2605
02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 1: pieces on the offensive and the defensive side of the

2606
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 1: ball in Green Bay. And I know, and I know

2607
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 1: that lost Jordy Nelson too. I mean, they lost some pieces.

2608
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,200
Speaker 1: Jordy wasn't the same last year though, all right, Well,

2609
02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 1: they nobody on that team was without that guy throwing

2610
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,120
Speaker 1: the ball. Well will It was clear that Jordy lost

2611
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: a step last year, and that's just it happens with receivers.

2612
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:54,080
Speaker 1: But Davante Adams to show through, and you know, I

2613
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 1: think there is still a lot of potential there for

2614
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: the Packers. They do as far as that goes. Blake

2615
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Bortles will be an MVP candidate in twenty and eighteen.

2616
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 1: Both of us have that as false. Yeah. Uh. Number two,

2617
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:07,600
Speaker 1: Romo the tack the Packers, And this just gets back

2618
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 1: to what we were just saying, Romo, the Packers will

2619
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 1: be the team to beat in two thousand eighteen. I'm

2620
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: getting that as false. I don't think a team in

2621
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: the program that put together five and eleven season without

2622
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: a guy for twelve games. Um, I just I just

2623
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 1: don't think they are good enough to win big games

2624
02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:32,240
Speaker 1: even with Aaron Rodgers. What is the Patriots record with

2625
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. It's probably pretty good, right you think? No,

2626
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. They don't lose to anybody. Yeah, but

2627
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,760
Speaker 1: they're defense. They were they were three and one. Oh

2628
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,640
Speaker 1: you mean instead of without Tom Brady? Right? Without Tom Brady?

2629
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 1: What what they were three and one without Tom Brady?

2630
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: That they were three and one with coach Jacoby Brissette

2631
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 1: and right, Jimmy Garoppolo for a half. Yeah, well they

2632
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:58,720
Speaker 1: they were trying as hard as they could to be

2633
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 1: not a terback led team when Burssette was out there.

2634
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: But I think I'm I think I'm with Tony Romo

2635
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 1: on this. I really well, well, listen, they added Jimmy Graham,

2636
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 1: and the last time Aaron Rodgers had a playmaking tight

2637
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 1: end like Jimmy Graham, it was a long time ago, man,

2638
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 1: never And yeah, and he can completely change the course

2639
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 1: of what they're doing on offense and create a huge

2640
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: mismatch for a potential team. And then on the defensive

2641
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 1: side of the ball, if this guy can get his

2642
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 1: head out of his butt, Mohammed Wilkerson is one of

2643
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 1: the more talented defensive linemen in the league for just

2644
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: from a raw talent standpoint. Now it's a big if

2645
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 1: because Wilkerson has played well below his expectations the past

2646
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 1: couple of years, after really after he signed that huge

2647
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 1: contract with the New York Jets. But I remember Bill's

2648
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 1: games where he just completely wrecked the offensive line and

2649
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: he was a complete nuisance. And so if you add

2650
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 1: him to the defensive defensive societe and you have Jimmy

2651
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:03,120
Speaker 1: Graham over there, you're healthier with Aaron Rodgers, you actually

2652
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 1: have a running game to speak of. And if your

2653
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 1: secondary comes through with some of these young guys that

2654
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 1: they took, I mean they took jay Ay Alexander in

2655
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: the first round, they took Josh Jackson, they have Kevin

2656
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 1: King coming back next year. From a cornerback perspective, I

2657
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of potential here for for the

2658
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers to be to win the NFC North

2659
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 1: A and and to potentially be that that team you

2660
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 1: look at going all right, well, don't sleep on these guys,

2661
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: because you know Rogers when he came back, he came

2662
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:35,240
Speaker 1: back a little bit too early, but he was still

2663
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 1: trying to will them to victory. I like the Packers

2664
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: a lot in two thousands. Now, don't get me wrong.

2665
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying I don't think the world of

2666
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. There's nobody that in the league that is

2667
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: like him. And there's guys who maybe throw it better.

2668
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 1: There's maybe guys who can throw it just as accurately,

2669
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 1: probably not more accurately, but as just as accurately. But

2670
02:09:55,120 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: mix both those together and his playmaking ability, his poise,

2671
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody has the amount of poison pocket presents

2672
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers does. He can make some things happen

2673
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: that nobody else can, no question. And don't don't underestimate

2674
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: the revenge factor for Aaron Rodgers, because that dude has

2675
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 1: it in him. With the personality standpoint, I mean, he

2676
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 1: was injured all last year, his team got disrespected. He

2677
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,320
Speaker 1: wants to come back with a vengeance this year. Yeah,

2678
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 1: he does have something to prove, and yeah, that's something

2679
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:25,880
Speaker 1: that's hard to put a price on. But I'm still

2680
02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: not taking him, not in not with Minnesota's defense in

2681
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: that division, with Chicago playing better with yeah, I mean

2682
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna they may win that division. I don't know

2683
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 1: if if Kirk Cousins is going to be the cure

2684
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 1: role in Minnesota. I think they'll make the playoffs. I

2685
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 1: think the Packers might just win the division though I'm

2686
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, I think they'll get in.

2687
02:10:47,200 --> 02:10:48,880
Speaker 1: They've got they've got a great defense, right So you

2688
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 1: think So we're split on Romos thinks the Packers are

2689
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 1: the team to be You think they are. I do

2690
02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 1: not think they are all right NFL true false Number

2691
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:58,560
Speaker 1: three Alex Smith should have been on the NFL's top

2692
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 1: one hundred. I'll let you go with this one first.

2693
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? Of course you

2694
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:06,600
Speaker 1: think so, Oh yeah, I'm we disagree. Twice twelve through

2695
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:09,360
Speaker 1: twelve games of the season, he was the MVP. Not

2696
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, they were six and oh and

2697
02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:16,840
Speaker 1: we're screaming out of the gate. Alex Smith basically had

2698
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 1: an out of body experience in the first five six

2699
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 1: weeks of the season because he proved to be he was.

2700
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 1: He was doing things that he had never done throughout

2701
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 1: the course of his career. He was just throwing the

2702
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 1: ball up, he was taking chances, he was he was

2703
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. And then once they

2704
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 1: start to lose a couple of times, he started to

2705
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: become that same guy. And that same guy is what

2706
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City has thought to themselves, This isn't good enough

2707
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 1: for us. We have Super Bowl aspirations and we don't

2708
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 1: think that that this is the guy that will be

2709
02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:48,840
Speaker 1: able to get us there, which is why they made

2710
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 1: that huge move up with Buffalo to go get Patrick

2711
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes and why why they developed him and were willing

2712
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: enough to trade him in the off season. So if

2713
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 1: a if a playoff team, a perennial playoff team is

2714
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 1: saying this guy isn't good enough, I don't think he's

2715
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,040
Speaker 1: He deserves a spot on the top one hundred. I

2716
02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 1: don't care how good his first four games games were,

2717
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:10,000
Speaker 1: how good were his last twelve They weren't great. I

2718
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 1: mean that Buffalo Kansas City game, just in a nutshell.

2719
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: Alex Smith was part of the reason they lost that

2720
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: game at home to the Bills. And I mean there,

2721
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:21,920
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times Travis Kelsey was

2722
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 1: wide open at a certain area of the field and

2723
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:28,080
Speaker 1: he didn't see him. And Kelsey demonstrative as he is,

2724
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 1: just like sits there and shakes his head because he

2725
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 1: was wide open and could have broke the game open. Yeah,

2726
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:35,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I And those are all good points.

2727
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 1: And there's no question that the Chiefs after the like

2728
02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 1: they came out and open. I don't know if everybody

2729
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 1: remembers Opening Night last night, Sunday Night football, the Chiefs

2730
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 1: come out and thump the New England Patriots in Foxborough. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I have never seen a game like that in Foxborough,

2732
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,680
Speaker 1: in not since Tom Brady, Bill Belichick. In that era.

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02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 1: There is no doubt to me that Alex Smith through

2734
02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: the first four or five weeks of the season was outstanding.

2735
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 1: Ending however, it was unbelievable. Somebody is more than five games.

2736
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 1: You've got to lay the car their collapse at the

2737
02:13:07,920 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 1: feet of somebody. I don't know if you can do

2738
02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 1: it at just one person of like Alex Smith. I

2739
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 1: don't know if he can lay it all at him. Yeah,

2740
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 1: But what changed the most from that for those first

2741
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:19,840
Speaker 1: five weeks to the last eleven. It's Alex Smith, you know,

2742
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:22,440
Speaker 1: not being that same guy that he was to open

2743
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 1: up the season. He was a little bit charged up

2744
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 1: because they brought in my home. So he's like, you

2745
02:13:25,640 --> 02:13:27,960
Speaker 1: know what, scre everybody. I mean, I'm gonna go do

2746
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 1: what the things that you're telling me I can't do.

2747
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 1: And then he became the same guy. I actually think

2748
02:13:32,640 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is very very similar to Tyrod Taylor myself.

2749
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,120
Speaker 1: I think those guys have extremely similar skill sets and

2750
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:41,480
Speaker 1: uh and they have a lot of the same deficiencies too.

2751
02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 1: It's an interesting comparison, really interesting I think. I I

2752
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:49,640
Speaker 1: would say Alex Smith off the top of my head,

2753
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:53,280
Speaker 1: I think he throws the football much better than Tyrod Taylor,

2754
02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:59,160
Speaker 1: I'll agree, and Tyrod will make more plays athletically that

2755
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 1: Alex Smith will make. Now, Alex Smith is a good

2756
02:14:01,320 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 1: run of the football. He's a smart run of the football.

2757
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:07,040
Speaker 1: Tyrod's gifted and he does things, he'll make them. He

2758
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:08,920
Speaker 1: can make a big play out of one of those plays,

2759
02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:10,400
Speaker 1: Alex Smith will make a first down out of it.

2760
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 1: But how about from decision making, it's pretty similar. I

2761
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 1: think at production wise, passing game, I'm frustrating level. Yes, yeah,

2762
02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:18,560
Speaker 1: I think they're both a frustrating and Buffalo and Kansas

2763
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 1: City kind of went through the same. But for me,

2764
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 1: I think for the top you're talking about one hundred players.

2765
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:26,520
Speaker 1: You're talking about the top ten five percent, top ten

2766
02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:31,040
Speaker 1: percent of the league. Um, Alex Smith, I think, yeah,

2767
02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:33,440
Speaker 1: that's it. That's when you put it in those terms.

2768
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,920
Speaker 1: Did I talk you into it? No? I still think

2769
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 1: he deserves to be in that playing that position. It's

2770
02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:41,360
Speaker 1: playing it as well as he did, as important as

2771
02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:44,200
Speaker 1: it is. I think almost all thirty two starting quarterbacks

2772
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:46,720
Speaker 1: need to be in the top hundred. But yeah, that's

2773
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:52,280
Speaker 1: just me, all thirty one of them. All Right, there's

2774
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 1: your NFL true of false and We've got a lot

2775
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:56,680
Speaker 1: and we've got some more things to do before we

2776
02:14:56,840 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 1: wrap this up. Do we miss anything, by the way,

2777
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 1: with that, No, I think I think we got it.

2778
02:15:02,800 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 1: We got We're gonna get back. We're about to put

2779
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:06,880
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll to bed. It's not one of my

2780
02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:09,400
Speaker 1: not one of our proudest moments is in Twitter poll,

2781
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:12,040
Speaker 1: which Buffalo Bill is biggest? It isn't the biggest make

2782
02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:16,120
Speaker 1: or break season? Is it Shack Lawson? Is it Kelvin Benjamin,

2783
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:18,120
Speaker 1: is a J. A. J. Mccarronter, Is that somebody else?

2784
02:15:18,200 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson is running off with it. I'm disappointed in

2785
02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:22,240
Speaker 1: the in the ratios. I thought it was going to

2786
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:25,600
Speaker 1: be a closer race than that Beason. It is not

2787
02:15:25,720 --> 02:15:28,360
Speaker 1: a nice poll. Unless there's like two that are right

2788
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 1: there together. It's not a good poll. It's an easy question.

2789
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 1: You gotta make it hard. You gotta have some debate,

2790
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:37,280
Speaker 1: and they're clearly today there's not much debate. Shack Lawson's

2791
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:39,400
Speaker 1: running away with it. We have heard from him though,

2792
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:42,040
Speaker 1: and you we alluded this earlier. Yeah, it's nice to

2793
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 1: see these players before anybody says anything, before we have

2794
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:48,600
Speaker 1: Twitter polls like this, before we do any of this.

2795
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 1: The guy has already said you know, I know it,

2796
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 1: and Shack Lawson has made it clear he knows you

2797
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:57,920
Speaker 1: know he um. Matthew Fairburn of The Athletic did a

2798
02:15:57,960 --> 02:16:00,800
Speaker 1: really good piece on Shack Lawson and and where he's

2799
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:03,200
Speaker 1: come to be. And now he's seen his name on

2800
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 1: the trade block in other reports, and I think what's

2801
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 1: important for Shack is it can fuel him. But there

2802
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,760
Speaker 1: has to be more motivation than that. There has to

2803
02:16:12,800 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 1: be something inside that drives him to be the same

2804
02:16:15,200 --> 02:16:18,760
Speaker 1: guy he wasn't Clemson because it's not I mean, trust me,

2805
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 1: I know the acc was not easy, and that's playing

2806
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:23,240
Speaker 1: at that level is not easy, but it's not as

2807
02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:25,800
Speaker 1: easy as it was in college. You are going up

2808
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:29,440
Speaker 1: against that many better starters of offensive lineman. I mean,

2809
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:32,960
Speaker 1: think about the offensive line drop off from NFL to college.

2810
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:36,680
Speaker 1: It's immense. So Shack Lawson needs to figure things out.

2811
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:39,080
Speaker 1: And you know what, having a guy like Jerry Hughes

2812
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:42,879
Speaker 1: there as long as they have a relationship, that's really

2813
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:45,680
Speaker 1: important to him. Because Jerry Hughes went through the same thing.

2814
02:16:45,800 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 1: The first couple of years in Indianapolis. They tried to

2815
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,040
Speaker 1: fit him in as a three four outside linebacker didn't

2816
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: work out. Then he started. Then he started talking to

2817
02:16:53,680 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, all the all the guys, all the veterans

2818
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:58,000
Speaker 1: that were there, and it really turned him around. And

2819
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:01,160
Speaker 1: once he got into a four three team, like once

2820
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:04,000
Speaker 1: the Bills traded for him, it completely turned his career around.

2821
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that might have the same effect

2822
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 1: for Shack Lawson. Yeah, and that's that's the plan, and

2823
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:10,600
Speaker 1: that's what he has said that he understands the situation,

2824
02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 1: wants to know to step up and make a difference.

2825
02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:14,600
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm just so I had fuel of

2826
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:18,360
Speaker 1: this pathetic Twitter pole that we put out. I'm so

2827
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:21,280
Speaker 1: dis m see Murph and I go around and a round.

2828
02:17:21,480 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 1: It's not a good Twitter poll list. There's like a

2829
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:24,960
Speaker 1: fifty fifty or three ways. But we had one of

2830
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:26,680
Speaker 1: the all time great ones here a while back. That

2831
02:17:26,840 --> 02:17:29,960
Speaker 1: was awesome. But this is the theme of the day.

2832
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:32,280
Speaker 1: It's easy. It's Shack laws and former first pick who

2833
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:34,800
Speaker 1: came in with high expectations and immediately had to get

2834
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: surgery to correct us shoulder injury, hasn't lived up to

2835
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:40,680
Speaker 1: the status of being a first round pick or shown

2836
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:43,440
Speaker 1: consistent production to this point. It's time to show up.

2837
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:45,560
Speaker 1: That's the Twitter poll of the day right there. And

2838
02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:47,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the theme that has gone through all of it,

2839
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 1: and and it's and it's right, it's right on point.

2840
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:51,720
Speaker 1: It is time to show up for Shack and he

2841
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 1: knows it. It is. We're gonna take a break, we'll

2842
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 1: come back. Well, this is One Bill's Live from One

2843
02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:14,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

2844
02:18:14,720 --> 02:18:17,360
Speaker 1: Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and

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02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:20,120
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02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:22,800
Speaker 1: the preferred alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills.

2847
02:18:22,800 --> 02:18:25,879
Speaker 1: We spoke with NFL executive Men par Aurora on how

2848
02:18:25,959 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 1: the new deal just finalizes with CBS will benefit the fans.

2849
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:35,040
Speaker 1: What this deal allows them to do allows fans of

2850
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:40,279
Speaker 1: teams that are on CBS watch now. If you authenticate

2851
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:43,680
Speaker 1: and provide your logging credentials, you can also now watch

2852
02:18:43,720 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 1: on your phone. So that's kind of the crux of it.

2853
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 1: So what that means is you have access to CBS

2854
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:54,520
Speaker 1: either through your linear cable provider or satellite provider, or

2855
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:59,360
Speaker 1: you have you know, an account with CBS directly through

2856
02:18:59,400 --> 02:19:02,880
Speaker 1: their CBS all access platform. Um. And then if you

2857
02:19:03,000 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 1: walk in then you can now wash on your phone.

2858
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 1: What that means is bills fans running around the area

2859
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 1: get caught between the stadium and home or out and

2860
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 1: about and have to go out for a quick beer

2861
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:17,120
Speaker 1: run for the crew at the house. You can still

2862
02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:19,080
Speaker 1: watch the game on your phone, but don't watch it

2863
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 1: while driving, right exactly. That that's what you That's the

2864
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 1: way you gather too, right, yea perfect. We also spoke

2865
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:28,280
Speaker 1: to Dean Blandino on the NFL streamlining the process of replay.

2866
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:31,320
Speaker 1: Here's what the former vice president of the NFL officiating

2867
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 1: had to say about that. That is a priority and

2868
02:19:35,720 --> 02:19:38,560
Speaker 1: a challenge for the league to streamline that process. I

2869
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 1: think that's why you see them going to more of

2870
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 1: a centralized process where it goes back to New York.

2871
02:19:44,840 --> 02:19:46,840
Speaker 1: You do have you do have a built in delay.

2872
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:49,320
Speaker 1: As long as the referee is a part of the process,

2873
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:51,640
Speaker 1: there's going to be that built in delay. The referee

2874
02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:53,560
Speaker 1: st the coach, they have to talk to the current

2875
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:56,560
Speaker 1: officials go over to the monitor. UM. So I think

2876
02:19:56,600 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 1: there is going to be something somewhat of a delay,

2877
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:01,320
Speaker 1: But I think that process and continue to be streamlined

2878
02:20:01,320 --> 02:20:03,040
Speaker 1: where if you have the shot, you have the angle,

2879
02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:06,200
Speaker 1: there's no need to look for additional information make the

2880
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:08,360
Speaker 1: decision to move on. I think they're doing a great job.

2881
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 1: I have been watching a lot of the World Cup

2882
02:20:10,240 --> 02:20:12,720
Speaker 1: matches and I think even though that's the new, the VR,

2883
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:14,880
Speaker 1: that's the new, a new process, I think they're doing

2884
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 1: a great job at least streamlining it and making it

2885
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,680
Speaker 1: more efficient. Dean Blandino, former vice president of officiating for

2886
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League Talk Football League talking about how

2887
02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:25,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna streamline things. Uh, and for those of you

2888
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:27,520
Speaker 1: we just got this in as we were sitting here

2889
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:31,080
Speaker 1: for a moment in Buffalo history, Rasmus Daleen just took

2890
02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:33,400
Speaker 1: the ice for the first time as a Buffalo Saber

2891
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:38,720
Speaker 1: at the Sabers Sabers Development Camp. Yeah, it's always a

2892
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,280
Speaker 1: fun event. It's very much like rookie minicamp where you

2893
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:43,880
Speaker 1: go there and fans are actually able to go in

2894
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:46,320
Speaker 1: there and watch it. So it's they're they're all geeking

2895
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:48,400
Speaker 1: out over Daleen right now. It's all it's all part

2896
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:50,320
Speaker 1: of this you know community we live in here in

2897
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Western New York. Everything's kind of intertwined and we keep

2898
02:20:53,360 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, both both sports keep track of the other,

2899
02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 1: no question matter, particularly since Kim and Terry pogoulabat both franchise. Yeah,

2900
02:21:00,920 --> 02:21:02,920
Speaker 1: that would be a good indicator. That's interesting. We got

2901
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:06,360
Speaker 1: we had to Dean Glandino and mon Paul Aurora on today.

2902
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,960
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're gonna have Ross Tucker, who's with XM Radio

2903
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,480
Speaker 1: Serious XM Radio and also has the Ross Tucker Football podcast.

2904
02:21:12,800 --> 02:21:16,039
Speaker 1: Joe Biscaglia Biscalia is gonna be in with us tomorrow,

2905
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,760
Speaker 1: um as well all the way through Friday. Right, Yeah,

2906
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:20,920
Speaker 1: that's right. I'm I'm here with you all right, Right,

2907
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:23,400
Speaker 1: you're here for me? Yeah, because you know, Murph and

2908
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:26,440
Speaker 1: I are. You know, we're actually not on speaking terms

2909
02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 1: now because we don't see each other very much. I'm

2910
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:31,640
Speaker 1: on vacation and he's on vacation. Uh, Tomorrow we go dark.

2911
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:35,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be here, uh doing the show next week

2912
02:21:35,080 --> 02:21:37,960
Speaker 1: for the July fan Yeah, which is Goalie. I'm telling you,

2913
02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:40,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to find things to talk about sometimes, and

2914
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:43,760
Speaker 1: after the draft is over and mini camps are done,

2915
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:45,960
Speaker 1: and but you know what I mean, that's why you

2916
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:48,840
Speaker 1: see a lot of these like, uh, these lists get

2917
02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:50,800
Speaker 1: curated and I'm no different. I mean, I'm I'm making

2918
02:21:50,840 --> 02:21:54,920
Speaker 1: a list. That's that's what we do and um, but

2919
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's finding ways to keep the conversation fresh

2920
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:00,200
Speaker 1: and everything along those lines. And you know, there are

2921
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot of storylines for the Buffalo Bills as we

2922
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:05,680
Speaker 1: kind of march forward through the quiet period, or so

2923
02:22:05,800 --> 02:22:08,720
Speaker 1: they hope the quiet Here. Here's here's job one for tomorrow.

2924
02:22:08,720 --> 02:22:11,000
Speaker 1: We gotta get a Twitter poll that has more than

2925
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:13,320
Speaker 1: you know. I don't want it to be a runaway,

2926
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:15,560
Speaker 1: so I've lost the whole key. How about do you

2927
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 1: like this poll? Yes? No, No, that would be a runaway. Yes,

2928
02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:23,320
Speaker 1: that's your funny guy. You can come back tomorrow with

2929
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:26,280
Speaker 1: with your sense of humor. It's good. We also want

2930
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 1: to thank our production assistant George Bloss, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Hollander,

2931
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:33,600
Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Rito or of course our producer Jay Harris,

2932
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:38,480
Speaker 1: also Kevin Cargis and James Warrible. Those guys helped us

2933
02:22:38,480 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 1: out with the cold open. We also and Joe, We're

2934
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna be back tomorrow at noon and think about I

2935
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:45,440
Speaker 1: want you to lay awake at night until you come

2936
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:48,320
Speaker 1: up with a Twitter poll that doesn't believe us hanging well.

2937
02:22:48,400 --> 02:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Don't don't put all the pressure on me. This has

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Speaker 1: to be a collaborative effort. Steve got this, we got it.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it one at least by Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: This has been One Bills Live from One Bills Drive

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Open the Bulldog will be up next.

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Speaker 1: Thanks h