Speaker 1: Welcome to episode for your Russia Limbaugh, the man behind
Speaker 1: the Golden EI B microphone. If you haven't heard episodes
Speaker 1: one through three, you can always go back and listen
Speaker 1: to those exclusive stories from people who knew Rush on
Speaker 1: and off the air, including Dawn and Brian, who were
Speaker 1: with Rush and me in the E I B Southern
Speaker 1: Command studio every day for more than twenty years. But
Speaker 1: today we have a very special episode for you. We
Speaker 1: have a chance to hear from Russia's brother, David Limbaugh.
Speaker 1: Now I've known David for a very long time decades,
Speaker 1: and David and I are friends, and I want to
Speaker 1: tell you something about David. And this is very touching
Speaker 1: to me, and it's something that I will always remember.
Speaker 1: When the day, that day that Rush gave us the
Speaker 1: bad news about his diagnosis, it was a very tough day.
Speaker 1: I got a call um before the show ended that
Speaker 1: day from David, and David just said, James, I'm just
Speaker 1: calling to see whether you're all right. We're all worried
Speaker 1: about you because we know how much you love Rush.
Speaker 1: Of course I broke down, and of course you know
Speaker 1: David was was just as emotional as David can be
Speaker 1: under those kind of circumstances. We were all just on
Speaker 1: the edge. And and and that's who David is, and
Speaker 1: and that's who this family is. I knew Rush and
Speaker 1: David's mom, Millie, and I hung out with Millie and
Speaker 1: I rocked David's one of David's daughters to sleep while
Speaker 1: we were all traveling somewhere with Rush to to on
Speaker 1: on one of our great traveling adventures. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember where we were going, but I just remember hanging
Speaker 1: out with them. You hear this expression, the salt of
Speaker 1: the earth, the Limbaugh family. I've met so many of them.
Speaker 1: These people are the people that you would want to
Speaker 1: be your neighbors. They're the people you would want to
Speaker 1: be your friends. These are the people that you would
Speaker 1: want to be your family. And you'd be grateful if
Speaker 1: you were in their family. Not only do they love
Speaker 1: this country, not only do they love their family, they
Speaker 1: love their friends, and they create an incredibly loving environment.
Speaker 1: And it is so easy for me to see where
Speaker 1: Rush came from by knowing his family. Whether you listened
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Speaker 1: guests we have with us David Limbaugh, Russia's brother. David. Welcome,
Speaker 1: How are you hey, James, How are you doing? Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me on. I am so pleased that you're here. David,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I am still in a state
Speaker 1: of shock and disbelief. I wake up some days and
Speaker 1: I still can't believe it when I hear Russia's voice.
Speaker 1: I'm still part of my mind still can't wrap around
Speaker 1: that Russia's gone. Yeah, it is really u very hard
Speaker 1: to believe, and it's tough and I kind of compartmentalize
Speaker 1: sometimes and deal with it that way. But I was
Speaker 1: very surprised the way it hit. I mean, we expected him,
Speaker 1: and we knew it was it was going to happen,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was imminent. And then when
Speaker 1: Catherine called and said he had really taken a turn
Speaker 1: for the worst, my heart sunk. And then it was
Speaker 1: downhill from that point. So yeah, I was kind of shocked,
Speaker 1: even though we had been well prepared for it. So, David,
Speaker 1: I want to go back with you today to the
Speaker 1: beginning of David the younger Brother. I want to know
Speaker 1: what life was like in the Limbaugh household. I have
Speaker 1: I have had the wonderful opportunity of meeting your mom.
Speaker 1: I never met your dad, but I met your mom.
Speaker 1: And she was such a wonderful and delightful person. She
Speaker 1: had sparkling blue lies. She would send me music. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether you know that or not. She would
Speaker 1: send me cassettes with music. Yeah, yeah, that she who
Speaker 1: wanted me to hear that. She had an infectious laugh.
Speaker 1: She was just such a wonderful person. What was it
Speaker 1: like growing up in your house? Well, my mom and
Speaker 1: dad were both unique characters in their own right, very different.
Speaker 1: My dad was, as I said in that tribute I
Speaker 1: wrote to Rush, he was a lawyer's lawyer and brilliant
Speaker 1: and uh he was pretty serious most of the time
Speaker 1: and had a worse bark than his bite. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was tender at heart. But you know, some people sometimes
Speaker 1: people thought he was gruff, but the truth is he was.
Speaker 1: He was really good to us, but he disciplined us,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And my mom was just a
Speaker 1: cut up. She was a comedian and always funny and happy,
Speaker 1: and everybody loved her, and and everybody loved my dad too.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. People would come over. This was
Speaker 1: the interesting thing. They come over to our house when
Speaker 1: we were kids in high school, and people would our
Speaker 1: friends would sit around in the living room and just
Speaker 1: listen to my dad pontificate about politics and religion, mostly politics,
Speaker 1: and so it is. It is gratifying to me to
Speaker 1: see Rush in his career, put together both of the
Speaker 1: best attributes of my parents, uh and turn it into
Speaker 1: the most successful radio show in American history. So that's
Speaker 1: really cool to me. It's I see both my parents
Speaker 1: in Rush, the best of both of both of them.
Speaker 1: And your granddad was still Rush had your granddad on
Speaker 1: the air. Your granddad lived to be over a hundred
Speaker 1: years old, and he was active. He was still practicing
Speaker 1: lawl right when you would coming here. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: joined the firm in and my grandfather was still there,
Speaker 1: the patriarch, My dad was there, my uncle was there,
Speaker 1: my cousin Steve uh so a lot of balls there
Speaker 1: at the time. In fact, our cousin John started out
Speaker 1: there too, So it was very limball heavy and there
Speaker 1: were some non limballs there too. And my grandfather continued
Speaker 1: until probably nineteen ninety three or four, when he was
Speaker 1: almost a hundred four. He died at a hundred four,
Speaker 1: but he practiced law almost until the very end. My
Speaker 1: dad died four or five years earlier than my grandfather,
Speaker 1: so my grandfather outlived him and um, but my grandfather
Speaker 1: was amazing in terms of how vibrant he was and
Speaker 1: how brilliant he was still at at an very old age. Okay,
Speaker 1: so your kids, what kind I look at my childhood
Speaker 1: and I contrasted to what I see kids going today,
Speaker 1: and I am so grateful to God that I had
Speaker 1: what I considered to be a normal childhood. You know,
Speaker 1: went to church, went to school. You know, two parents
Speaker 1: in the home. You know, we did things that most
Speaker 1: middle class families did. You know, you go to the church, picnics,
Speaker 1: you do? You know? I was a little mischievous in
Speaker 1: school and once in a while, and and and but
Speaker 1: it was normal. What was your childhood like? This sounds
Speaker 1: like a leading question based on information you have may
Speaker 1: have been supplied to you about our past. And I
Speaker 1: don't know whether or not to invoke the fifth or
Speaker 1: not at this point, I need to know what your
Speaker 1: intentions are. My intentions are you with FBI? What was
Speaker 1: it like, David? That's all my intentions are you? You
Speaker 1: wouldn't Russian brothers. You're not that far apart in age. Now.
Speaker 1: He's two years older than I am, or he was
Speaker 1: two years older than I am. And Uh. We were
Speaker 1: mischievous as kids. I mean, I mean, if I told
Speaker 1: some of these stories, I wonder if the statute of
Speaker 1: limitations is still open on a few of the felonies
Speaker 1: we committed. But I mean we were We were really
Speaker 1: bad on prank phone calls. I mean, it was pretty
Speaker 1: much harmless stuff, and we were creative. As I think
Speaker 1: I saw in one of these Steve Martin movies or
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of it, one of his daughters,
Speaker 1: who was mischievous, called it a dark gift. Well, she
Speaker 1: had nothing on us. We we were gifted. We had
Speaker 1: a dark gift for mischief, and we pulled pranks on
Speaker 1: people all the time, since we sent cabs to people's
Speaker 1: houses that that didn't order, and we ordered pizzas, then
Speaker 1: sent a cab for the pizza to Uh to pick
Speaker 1: up the piece and take it to the people's house.
Speaker 1: We ordered cabs for residents addresses that were non existent,
Speaker 1: and then we're sitting in the houses by the uh
Speaker 1: these non existent residents, and watched these cab guys perplexed.
Speaker 1: And I mean it was terribly mean in retrospect, but
Speaker 1: you know, we we had uh slowly formed conscious consciousness
Speaker 1: at the time, So that's my only excuse. But we
Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun. What was your favorite one?
Speaker 1: If you had to pick, Okay, your favorite too, there
Speaker 1: was I wonder. I hope no one's still around that
Speaker 1: that would have been a victim of this. But we
Speaker 1: we had to know your Bible contest and know your
Speaker 1: American history contests. So we would call people randomly out
Speaker 1: of the phone book and ask them, uh, certain totally
Speaker 1: easy questions and then they'd answer them. We'd get them right,
Speaker 1: and so we we told them they'd win prize money.
Speaker 1: So we sent cabs to pick them up and take
Speaker 1: them to a certain hotel in town to pick up
Speaker 1: their prize money. Keep in mind that there was no contest,
Speaker 1: there was no prize money. The cab people weren't in
Speaker 1: on it, so I mean, it was it was pathetic
Speaker 1: how bad we were, but did you ever get busted?
Speaker 1: Not for that. We we got busted. I got taken
Speaker 1: to jail on Halloween for throwing balloons at people's cars.
Speaker 1: Rush was less was not part of that misdemeanor. But
Speaker 1: we were eight kids, We were walking around, we threw
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't hurt anything. We bet we got
Speaker 1: we got taken to the police station. But no, we
Speaker 1: just we just had a lot of fun doing crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: But most of it was not miss if I just
Speaker 1: say that because Russ was so tickled about it talking
Speaker 1: about those things we did in later years. But Rush
Speaker 1: was very interested in baseball, uh and pursued pitching and
Speaker 1: and uh he was a good batter and very good picture. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now when you look back on it, did you get
Speaker 1: any hints? Did you did you notice anything? Because Russ
Speaker 1: just talked before about when he started to call games
Speaker 1: on using the the TV, turning the sound down on
Speaker 1: the TV and calling a baseball game or the the
Speaker 1: carvel toy with radio. Did you was that like, were
Speaker 1: you conscious that something was going on there or was
Speaker 1: it just kind of he's you know, well it was
Speaker 1: We lived on Sunset for twelve Sunset and Cape Girardo Missouri,
Speaker 1: and I specifically remember that toy at that address, and
Speaker 1: it would you could broadcast on the A M radio
Speaker 1: waves within the confines of your home, and so my
Speaker 1: mom and I would listen to Rush broadcast either as
Speaker 1: a DJ, spinning records and giving his little commentary as
Speaker 1: he went, or announcing baseball games as he watched it
Speaker 1: on TV and turning down Dizzy Dean or whoever the
Speaker 1: baseball announcer was at the time. So yes, and I
Speaker 1: think your question is did we recognize his talent at
Speaker 1: that time when we were just really young, We probably
Speaker 1: recognized most his enthusiasm for it, in his devotion to it.
Speaker 1: But when we moved over to the other house and
Speaker 1: he was fifteen, he went to Dallas to take to
Speaker 1: get his radio license, I don't know the technical term. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then he then he became a radio disc jockey
Speaker 1: on the local station. He was really really talented, especially
Speaker 1: for his age, and people started noticing how gifted he was.
Speaker 1: We we did some tapes, kind of made an audio
Speaker 1: movie and that it was just totally creative and hilarious
Speaker 1: and Rush. Rush could do voices. He was a mimic.
Speaker 1: He was an impressionist. The first moment that Trump does
Speaker 1: anything that he is, the unraveling of an Obama agenda item.
Speaker 1: Obama's gonna be on TP. Hey, you know what'll gleat
Speaker 1: you're exclusive Trump Trump about Detroit Obama. Sometimes, you know
Speaker 1: what I was on a stage like this, I wish
Speaker 1: I weren't married. And I can say what I I
Speaker 1: really think. I don't mean that in a negative way.
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy, wink wink, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So what does my voice sound like? You roy, sound
Speaker 1: like Stephen Hawking or something? So like a union FuG
Speaker 1: that's really chipped offered me. And if I don't say
Speaker 1: the right thing here, I might be in some trouble
Speaker 1: exactly right. Uh And I know that people think he
Speaker 1: brilliant because the way he speaks, and people think people
Speaker 1: are brilliant because the way they speak. They say a
Speaker 1: lot because that's how you make people think of thinking
Speaker 1: when you're talking. And uh so, yeah, if I weren't
Speaker 1: married to her, As you know, in each episode, we've
Speaker 1: been sharing the biographical journey of Russia's life, chapter by chapter,
Speaker 1: narrated by some of Russia's colleagues and closest friends. Today, well,
Speaker 1: this guy needs no introduction. Long time listeners to Rush
Speaker 1: knew him as f Lee Levin. Today he's a huge
Speaker 1: star in his own right, radio broadcaster Mark Levin the
Speaker 1: Life of Russia Limbaugh, Chapter four, narrated by Mark Levine.
Speaker 1: Despite being fired from his first three jobs in radio,
Speaker 1: Jeff Christy a k A. Rush Limball didn't stay down
Speaker 1: for long. He worked aggressively to return to the airwaves,
Speaker 1: and by nineteen seventy five landed the afternoon show at
Speaker 1: top forty k u d L in Kansas City. Still,
Speaker 1: Russia's time at k u d L was short lived,
Speaker 1: listening barely two years before he was let go. For
Speaker 1: the first time in his life, Russia had become disenchanted
Speaker 1: with radio. After serious thought, he chose to temporarily walk
Speaker 1: away from his dreams of a successful radio career. In
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, Rush said, a new career course major
Speaker 1: League Baseball. Remember my father when I when I quit radio,
Speaker 1: was the happiest he ever was. I quit radio age
Speaker 1: because I figured it burned out, that was playing records
Speaker 1: the son, what does that mean? I mean, where is
Speaker 1: that going to take you? When I got that job
Speaker 1: of the Kancity Royals, making thirteen thousand dollars. He was
Speaker 1: happier than he had ever been. Russia's four years with
Speaker 1: the Royals were successful at had to a lifelong friendship
Speaker 1: with Hall of Famer George Brett. After baseball, Rush returned
Speaker 1: to radio in three as the afternoon news and sports
Speaker 1: anchor at k m b Z Radio. The first time
Speaker 1: in his career used his given name on the airwaves,
Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh. But he even boasted to his general manager quote,
Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time before you're going to
Speaker 1: fire me. Russia's prediction became his reality, and after less
Speaker 1: than a year at camb Z, he was out by
Speaker 1: Rush replaced Morton Downey Jr. In mid days on kf
Speaker 1: b K and Sacramento. Kf b K was a perfect
Speaker 1: fit for Rush, and he was soon dominating the market
Speaker 1: in his time slot. I finally got to do a
Speaker 1: radio show the way I wanted to do it, the
Speaker 1: things that I cared about, the things I thought people
Speaker 1: would listen to, and it was basically just sharing my passions.
Speaker 1: I love sharing my passions. I come up with things
Speaker 1: are passion and I want everybody to know about it
Speaker 1: and want everybody experienced it. I want everybody to agree,
Speaker 1: and finally all came together for me in Sacramento, California.
Speaker 1: After three years of ratings success in Sacramento, Rush left
Speaker 1: KFBK to become part of ED McLaughlin snowly formed e
Speaker 1: f M Media Network. Still, his departure from kf b
Speaker 1: K was better. Sweet. I'm just the guy in the radio.
Speaker 1: When I started this thirty years ago, I never envisioned
Speaker 1: any of this happening. What I wanted to become was
Speaker 1: the best radio guy in the country. I had this
Speaker 1: great opportunity. I could be me, I could be honest,
Speaker 1: I could talk about whatever I wanted to talk about,
Speaker 1: and there was nobody that could tell me I couldn't.
Speaker 1: And I have to, folks, I have to tell you
Speaker 1: it is the greatest blessing that I've ever had, is
Speaker 1: to have the opportunity I do each and every day.
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Speaker 1: was it disc jockey at a young age. He's a
Speaker 1: teenage disc jockey in Cape Girardo. Did this lead to
Speaker 1: him being popular? Was he in the m crowd in school?
Speaker 1: How did that affect his life and and how did
Speaker 1: it affect the family's life? Well, Rush was never really
Speaker 1: into school and he was not that social at a
Speaker 1: young age when he was just a workaholic. He was
Speaker 1: so into his radio show, uh that that he worked
Speaker 1: all the time, and he just loved it. And but
Speaker 1: it's kind of a foreshadowing of what would happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: imagine having been diagnosed with terminal cancer in his final year.
Speaker 1: He gets his life energy uh of course from the
Speaker 1: family and friends, but his primary source of energy and
Speaker 1: motivation to live, in my opinion, was his love for
Speaker 1: his audience and and what he did, uh, and his job.
Speaker 1: He loved doing what he did, and that was the
Speaker 1: case when he first started out. So while he would
Speaker 1: have been popular had he had had his priorities been there,
Speaker 1: he mainly just loved to work. But he developed some
Speaker 1: friends in in the class ahead of him a few
Speaker 1: years later when he was like seventeen and eighteen. They
Speaker 1: they took a particular interest in Russi. He was more
Speaker 1: mature minded than and more serious. I mean, he's a comedian,
Speaker 1: don't me wrong, but you know what I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's a serious minded person in his real life. And
Speaker 1: so he's a guy who never wore blue jeans. For example,
Speaker 1: I could never remembering him wearing blue jeans. And these
Speaker 1: guys sought him out, these older guys, and they ended
Speaker 1: up becoming really good friends. They were at our house
Speaker 1: all the time, and I I latched onto them like
Speaker 1: a little kid. But it was just fun having those
Speaker 1: guys around. And so Rush was extremely popular with them
Speaker 1: and they looked up to him. They saw his talent
Speaker 1: from an ELA's. But truthfully, before that, I think he
Speaker 1: didn't have as big as social life because he was
Speaker 1: more into his work and that that. You know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like he was a mirror of his younger self
Speaker 1: from what you were describing. Yes, that is so true.
Speaker 1: And he always stayed true to himself. He he did
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do. Uh, and luckily what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do was productive and wholesome. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wanted to be on the radio and he wanted to
Speaker 1: work hard, and those are all obviously good values. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of you didn't ask me this,
Speaker 1: but I might as well anticipate it and answer it.
Speaker 1: People have said, well, your dad wanted him. He was
Speaker 1: probably disappointed because he didn't go to college and didn't
Speaker 1: become a lawyer and all that. And my dad, like
Speaker 1: any parent back then, wanted us to go to college.
Speaker 1: But he never pressured Rush to go into law. My
Speaker 1: dad was not that way. He just believed that the
Speaker 1: best avenue to becoming well rounded for later success was college.
Speaker 1: You know, they they betted heads about that because Rush
Speaker 1: saw no value in it. He knew, he knew his
Speaker 1: own head, he knew his own heart, he knew he
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. He did it on his own.
Speaker 1: He did it his way. My dad has been unfairly
Speaker 1: criticized for pressuring Rusciple or he never did it, and
Speaker 1: he never did it. He did want to keep him
Speaker 1: in school, and I think that was a reasonable thing,
Speaker 1: and even Rush would have said later, there's no way
Speaker 1: my dad could have anticipated that Rush would break all
Speaker 1: odds and be phenomenally successful, not going the conventional route.
Speaker 1: So I think Rush, as you say, from the from
Speaker 1: the time he was young until the time he died,
Speaker 1: knew his own head, and he was a reflection of
Speaker 1: his when when he was an older person, he was
Speaker 1: a reflection of his younger person. But that's simply because
Speaker 1: because he never changed, he always knew what he wanted
Speaker 1: and he went for it. Well, I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about you for a few minutes, because you
Speaker 1: just said something about you knew what you wanted to
Speaker 1: do earlier on in life. Too, and you wanted to
Speaker 1: be a lawyer, and did you also want to be
Speaker 1: a writer. Because you're an accomplished writer. Between your writings
Speaker 1: on the political and cultural scene in America and you're
Speaker 1: exceptionally gifted books on Christianity, you have carved out a
Speaker 1: real niche for yourself. Interesting question, I I have. Uh,
Speaker 1: I first one to acknowledge that that, regardless of how
Speaker 1: well I've done, I wouldn't have been able to uh
Speaker 1: reach the levels I have, which are very modest compared
Speaker 1: to what Russia did. Not that I'm competing, It would
Speaker 1: be foolished to put myself in competition with him. But uh,
Speaker 1: it would not have been possible it had Russian out
Speaker 1: open those doors. Now, I was already a lawyer before
Speaker 1: Rush God his syndicated show and all that, so I
Speaker 1: was doing fine. But he opened some doors for me
Speaker 1: in both my writing profession and my legal profession that
Speaker 1: we're just awesome. The opportunity to work on his radio
Speaker 1: contract and and then watching his success inspired me to
Speaker 1: want to become a writer, a better writer, And um, hey,
Speaker 1: my brother is doing it. Maybe I Maybe I I
Speaker 1: come from the jet same gene pool. Maybe I have
Speaker 1: enough talent to do a little bit better than I'm doing.
Speaker 1: So it was inspirational and he was always supportive of
Speaker 1: that as I As I also said in the tribute,
Speaker 1: but you you you to answer your specific question that
Speaker 1: I always know that I wanted to do these things.
Speaker 1: I can give you tangible answers to that as proof
Speaker 1: that I did. One is I remember in in Franklin
Speaker 1: school when I was in second grade, Mrs Swink, our teacher,
Speaker 1: asked us to draw a picture of what how we
Speaker 1: envisioned ourselves. Uh, it went working when we grew up,
Speaker 1: and I drew a picture of a courtroom. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why I remembered that all my life, but
Speaker 1: I just did. And I never deviated for wanting to
Speaker 1: become a lawyer. I always wanted to become one until
Speaker 1: I became one. Okay, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, I've
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it, but I but I glamorized
Speaker 1: it all the way through. I I was one of
Speaker 1: these weird guys that even like law school because I
Speaker 1: just loved the study of law. Now, the practice of law,
Speaker 1: the general practice of law is a hard grind and
Speaker 1: very stressful, and it is not as glamorous as you
Speaker 1: anticipate that it will be. But then if you can
Speaker 1: specialize and you get a better idea of what you're doing,
Speaker 1: then you feel better about it. And that's what I
Speaker 1: would recommend anyone to do. So I knew that I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a lawyer from an early age. And
Speaker 1: you asked me about writing why. I was a fanatic
Speaker 1: on the Hardy Boy books. I read all the Hardy
Speaker 1: Boys books and Tom Swift was kind of a science
Speaker 1: fiction thing. Ken Holt, Rick Brant all these series and
Speaker 1: they can go back and check. And I was a
Speaker 1: fanatical reader of those kinds of books. And uh, I
Speaker 1: was so into that those books that I started writing
Speaker 1: my own books. Although what I called the book was
Speaker 1: like seven handwritten pages and I'd color them. The cover
Speaker 1: I would draw, and I had no talent to draw,
Speaker 1: but I so I had like forty five books, seven
Speaker 1: page books, mystery books. And I call him the Right Brothers.
Speaker 1: And I was obviously just imitating the Hardy Boys. But
Speaker 1: so yes, from that age, I was probably in second
Speaker 1: and third grade when I did that. That's amazing. Did
Speaker 1: you read Nancy Drew? No? Because I thought it would
Speaker 1: be a little feminine. So no, I didn't always wondered
Speaker 1: about it, but I never Some of our girlfriends good
Speaker 1: I know, I know it was good, but you know,
Speaker 1: false pride, false mail. Now that I'm a full blown feminist,
Speaker 1: I'd probably go back and read them. I read The
Speaker 1: Hardy Boys, the Bobsy Twins. I mean I would read yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Tom Swift, that Tom Swift books
Speaker 1: were excellent. Yeah, I had the whole series. Yes, oh oh,
Speaker 1: I got it. I got an interesting tidbit about my
Speaker 1: dad to show you. I don't know why, but when
Speaker 1: I when I came an adult, I thought back on
Speaker 1: this story. I uh, and and what it says about
Speaker 1: my dad. My dad was just a he was. He
Speaker 1: was a voracious reader. I get distract and it takes
Speaker 1: me longer. Rest was like my dad. He was a
Speaker 1: steel trapped mind. And I'm not cutting myself down. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the Rush had my dad's ability to read
Speaker 1: fast and to comprehend. One time when I was into
Speaker 1: the I think I think it was Tom Swift's first book,
Speaker 1: like The rocket Ship to the Moon or something like that.
Speaker 1: By the way, they're two Tom Swift's series one when
Speaker 1: my grandfather was a kidter and then when one we
Speaker 1: were a kid, or maybe my dad. But I was
Speaker 1: so enthused about the book when I was reading it,
Speaker 1: I asked my dad if he would read it and
Speaker 1: then talk to me about it. Now. Had I had
Speaker 1: one of my kids asked me to to reign in
Speaker 1: my A D. D And read a kid's book at
Speaker 1: that time, I would have. I would have faked it somehow,
Speaker 1: but my dad, I don't. I got up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night one time, I walked down the
Speaker 1: stairs and I walked into the living room where he
Speaker 1: sat in his rocking chair, and he always had a
Speaker 1: card table in front, and he was reading in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night, he was reading that book. And
Speaker 1: uh so he actually read the book and I that
Speaker 1: was that. In later years, that has been very touching
Speaker 1: to me to think about that. Wow. My my dad
Speaker 1: was in World War Two but in um Flu in
Speaker 1: the China Burma what they call the China Burma Theater,
Speaker 1: and a good friend of his was also in the
Speaker 1: same place, and they wouldn't talk about it. My brother
Speaker 1: and I would would ask, you know, we'd watch a
Speaker 1: war movie kids on TV. What was it like. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell us. Um, he simply would not talk about it. None.
Speaker 1: Let's jump ahead. You know, Russia had went through a
Speaker 1: series of jobs, but the big success had eluded him.
Speaker 1: He had been fired a few times, he you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that those no one likes to get fired,
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he had to go through some grief
Speaker 1: with all of that. At one point he left radio
Speaker 1: to work with the Kansas City Royals. And do you
Speaker 1: remember anything about Pilli's perog you're off doing law. You
Speaker 1: guys have grown now you're often two different directions where
Speaker 1: you still in touch with each other. What was that like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what you're getting at is is inquiring about
Speaker 1: his professional growing pains. And I would say, yes, he
Speaker 1: definitely had him. He he knew again he wanted to
Speaker 1: be in radio. But it's one thing to say he
Speaker 1: wanted to be in radio and he knew that's where
Speaker 1: he belonged, and another to believe that it would end
Speaker 1: up happening. Because you can think you're the best person
Speaker 1: that ever lived at a certain uh profession or skill
Speaker 1: and still not have the circumstances in life UH develop
Speaker 1: and materialized to enable you to to actualize your potential.
Speaker 1: And so I think through a series of firings and obstacles,
Speaker 1: he was getting pretty discouraged. He was not a person
Speaker 1: to adapt. Again, it goes back, he's never really changed.
Speaker 1: He always wanted to be who he wanted to be,
Speaker 1: and that is a commentator. At the time, there wasn't
Speaker 1: There weren't really even any talk shows, not just political
Speaker 1: talk shows. There just weren't any talk shows that I remember.
Speaker 1: But Rush always wanted to comment. So when he when
Speaker 1: he did, when he spent spun records for these shows,
Speaker 1: he would always comment and he and it was funny
Speaker 1: and he was talented, but that was not his job description.
Speaker 1: So these program directors invariably got irritated with him and
Speaker 1: told him to curve it down. That was not what
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do, and invariably he would disobey
Speaker 1: because that he knew. That's where that's where his destiny was.
Speaker 1: Not because he was intrinsically insubordinate. That's not why he
Speaker 1: got fired. He got fired because, Uh, he just did
Speaker 1: what he thought he was born to do. Not that
Speaker 1: he thought through this film sophically, but he kind of
Speaker 1: just did what he did and when he get fired
Speaker 1: a few times, then he talked to my dad and
Speaker 1: mom and okay, let's go the conventional route. So he'd
Speaker 1: worked for the Royals, and I think he enjoyed it, okay,
Speaker 1: but he's mostly bored. He was director of group sales
Speaker 1: and he sold tickets and he was really good at
Speaker 1: what he did, but it was just not for him,
Speaker 1: and so he was just looking for a way out
Speaker 1: and he'd get he'd get opportunities, and he would go
Speaker 1: and get fired again. It wasn't until uh he was
Speaker 1: and you've heard this story. Wasn't until he went to
Speaker 1: Sacramento that some program director finally let him be himself
Speaker 1: and then he just flourished like a rocket ship. It
Speaker 1: was explosive. I mean, I went out there to to
Speaker 1: Sacramento to see Rush and he took me to Alliance
Speaker 1: Club luncheon that he was the invited speaker because he
Speaker 1: was already a big celebrity in Sacramento. And I had
Speaker 1: no idea. I had no idea he was a celebrity
Speaker 1: really because he didn't brag about it. He he just
Speaker 1: did what he did. I think he might have taken
Speaker 1: me there with the hidden purpose of letting me see
Speaker 1: just how talent he was. And I went there and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I can't. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: heard a better speaker in my life. And I'm going, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm blown away by my own brother. But when we
Speaker 1: were growing up, we didn't do a lot of talking.
Speaker 1: We did a lot of listening. My dad was the talker,
Speaker 1: and so I didn't particularly know that Rush was as
Speaker 1: uh talkative as he was capable of being when he
Speaker 1: got on the air. And I think this is true
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities they said Johnny Carson was a
Speaker 1: little bit shy in his personal life. Rush wasn't shy,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a real talkative person. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was one on one, but he wasn't the guy guy
Speaker 1: that would go just be the life of the party
Speaker 1: and entertain people. But when when he got on the air,
Speaker 1: he lit up. As you know, when I was with
Speaker 1: him at that Lions Club luncheon, my my jaw was
Speaker 1: dropping at how talented he was. It's not that I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was smart. I just hadn't seen that
Speaker 1: side of him. And it's it's funny because you know,
Speaker 1: I saw that side of him next the rest of
Speaker 1: his life after that. So David, now let's jump to
Speaker 1: New York and the next thing you know, he's becoming
Speaker 1: a household name. Were you surprised by any of this?
Speaker 1: What was the reaction inside your family, your extended family
Speaker 1: as well as you know of the family. Well, I
Speaker 1: think and I remember this, and I could be off
Speaker 1: by one or two, but I think rest started with
Speaker 1: fifty six stations. The sheer talent, uh is what led
Speaker 1: to the to the explosion of the number of stations,
Speaker 1: and within a matter of years, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many years, he was up to six hundred stations, and
Speaker 1: he held him for the rest of his career. My mom,
Speaker 1: I will say, my mom was always his biggest supporter
Speaker 1: and she was so thrilled with with this success. She
Speaker 1: always knew how talented he was and it was just
Speaker 1: extremely gratifying for her to see it. My dad was
Speaker 1: more of a skeptic because again he my dad, I think,
Speaker 1: had this preconceived notion that to succeed you had to
Speaker 1: go through the traditional route, college and all that, and
Speaker 1: he he was slow to realize that Rush had broken through.
Speaker 1: But once Rush did break through, my dad was blown away.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying my dad wasn't a big supporter of Rush,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't as predisposed too. It happening the way
Speaker 1: it happened. And I remember, and you might have heard
Speaker 1: this story or read it in one of the various
Speaker 1: biographies of Rush, were my mom and dad are sitting
Speaker 1: around while Rush is being interviewed by Ted Copple on
Speaker 1: the what was it not? The what do you call that? Yeah? Nightline?
Speaker 1: And he Rush made some profound, articulate response to something
Speaker 1: Ted Copple asked him, and Rush turned my my dad
Speaker 1: Russia and I always called my dad affectionately Rush. So
Speaker 1: Rush our dad turned to each other, not to him.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have dared do that, but but so he
Speaker 1: he uh turned to my mom, Millie, where does he
Speaker 1: get this? In other words, can you believe how talent
Speaker 1: he is? And my mom turned in and says, well,
Speaker 1: you silly, and and the and the answer was, of
Speaker 1: course that he got it from both of them. But
Speaker 1: but it was my way of my it was my
Speaker 1: dad's way of rhetorically affirming just how great Rush was.
Speaker 1: And that was just a cool turning point, I think.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that Rush got a chance to actually
Speaker 1: know that you know, and and to understand that that
Speaker 1: his parents knew, both of them, and and and the
Speaker 1: the extended family too knew this talent. How was it
Speaker 1: for you, because all of a sudden, here you are.
Speaker 1: Your brother's famous. It's not and famous a double edged sword.
Speaker 1: It's not just the good stuff, it's all the horrible
Speaker 1: stuff that comes along with beings, and that stuff impacts
Speaker 1: the family too. What was it like? Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I when he was in Sacramento, and I'm just a
Speaker 1: general practitioner of law, he he asked me to review
Speaker 1: his contract, his radio contract. Well, I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about radio contracts, and he wanted to trust me enough
Speaker 1: to do it even though I had no expertise in it.
Speaker 1: And when he did his when he was asked to
Speaker 1: do his syndicated show, he asked me to do the contract. Well,
Speaker 1: I had no clue about the business aspects of of syndication.
Speaker 1: But I remember I think I spent twelve hours preparing
Speaker 1: that contract to submit to Ed McLaughlin and his lawyer.
Speaker 1: His lawyer was Howard Howard Abraham's really good guy and
Speaker 1: New York lawyer. I hadn't dealt with any New York
Speaker 1: lawyers and prepared that contract and and so that was
Speaker 1: really cool that rush brought me. And I was a
Speaker 1: little intimidated, a little nervous, But I will tell you
Speaker 1: in terms of how it affected. His fame affected me multifaceted.
Speaker 1: But one one thing I remember. I was so excited
Speaker 1: when he finally inaugurated his national show out of New
Speaker 1: York and uh he I remember driving in town. I
Speaker 1: went and I went out in my car to listen
Speaker 1: to the radio. And when I was so excited when
Speaker 1: he came on, I I got goose bumps. I said,
Speaker 1: that's to me. Nobody was with me, that that's my brother.
Speaker 1: I said, that is so cool. And so I was
Speaker 1: in ecstatic about his success, so proud of of what
Speaker 1: he had done and what he was doing. And I saw, wow,
Speaker 1: you know all. And I even said to Ed McLaughlin,
Speaker 1: I said, I there's no reason and just what Ed said,
Speaker 1: there's it's there's no reason what he did in Sacramento
Speaker 1: won't translate to the rest of the country. There's no
Speaker 1: way it won't. I mean, I was convinced. Once I
Speaker 1: heard him in Sacramento, I knew and so I was
Speaker 1: I was so supercharged. Uh with that. Now that's the
Speaker 1: upside to to it, the negative, a negative side of this,
Speaker 1: a potential of his site. And what he did was
Speaker 1: he very controversial on politics. Well, I happen to believe
Speaker 1: exactly like he believes politically, And so anytime anybody would
Speaker 1: would give him grief over that, I was just defensive,
Speaker 1: a protective on his behalf. And if they would go
Speaker 1: after him, I would I would be very upset about it.
Speaker 1: But it never bothered me. And since oh, this is
Speaker 1: gonna hurt our reputation, our family's reputation because he's controversial, No,
Speaker 1: I was totally proud of what he was doing because
Speaker 1: I think he was making a difference and and mainstreaming
Speaker 1: conservative thought. I mean, Bill Buckley of course is the
Speaker 1: father of the modern conservative movement. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Russell Kirk and all these intellectual people, but Buckley brought it, Uh,
Speaker 1: brought the conservative movement to the forefront, and then Rush
Speaker 1: brought it to the mainstream. And what he did, but
Speaker 1: the downside to me seeing him be savagely attacked and scapegoated,
Speaker 1: that deeply bothered me through the years personally. And that's
Speaker 1: where he that's where he did. He finally just said,
Speaker 1: I've got to do my own thing, and I'll do it. Well.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be all things to all people.
Speaker 1: And he ended up being one of the most charitable people,
Speaker 1: celebrities or people period. In fact, as a as a
Speaker 1: collateral point, he wasn't just charitable with charities. He was
Speaker 1: so generous with the family, with other people, with fans. Uh.
Speaker 1: He gave gave away so many things. He's he's been
Speaker 1: so generous to me and my family, And sometimes he
Speaker 1: would offer stuff so much that you'd feel guilty. And
Speaker 1: then I finally realized, I gotta not make this about me,
Speaker 1: because HiT's one of his greatest joys is giving things
Speaker 1: away that he likes himself, such as his uh Apple products.
Speaker 1: And so if he wanted to give me four watches,
Speaker 1: I was, uh, you know, I can't. I finally said, okay,
Speaker 1: give my So one time he gave me four four
Speaker 1: Apple want this hilarious. I mean, it's it's disgraceful if
Speaker 1: you if you're a non capitalist. But he gave me
Speaker 1: four watches and I put them all on my wrist.
Speaker 1: This is like a year before he died. Put every
Speaker 1: one of them. There were different colors. I took a
Speaker 1: picture of him, send it to him. So here I'm
Speaker 1: wearing all the watches and he just loved it. I
Speaker 1: mean he you saw it, didn't He give you those
Speaker 1: phones all the time and the iPads and watches? Oh yes,
Speaker 1: oh yes. He was so generous and just, and he
Speaker 1: loved being generous with the people that he loved and
Speaker 1: new sister, you know, he was amazing. First off, today,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to my brother David. He turns a weaven today.
Speaker 1: I don't know this is the eleventh's it's just birthday
Speaker 1: as sixty five today, and he doesn't look a day over.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you forty every wait, so happy birthday day
Speaker 1: of nickname him doctor. I gave him a brand new
Speaker 1: I've fallen ten my brother for his birthday about two
Speaker 1: or three weeks ago. So I wouldn't forget it. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't forget it. So, David, time is dwindling down
Speaker 1: here sadly, and I want to ask you one question.
Speaker 1: What's the one thing about Rush as a person that
Speaker 1: very few people know or people would be surprised to
Speaker 1: hear about him. Is there anything that comes to your
Speaker 1: mind I'd have to think about this. I'm never good
Speaker 1: at these open ended questions like that, But I would
Speaker 1: say he was not an extrovert uh in his private life.
Speaker 1: I was even surprised when I first started seeing him
Speaker 1: display his talent and how he would light up in
Speaker 1: front of an audience. I just never saw. I mean,
Speaker 1: I saw glimpses of that when he would perform on
Speaker 1: the radio and all that, but I had no idea
Speaker 1: the extent to which Uh he would become, not a
Speaker 1: different person, but a more open person. It's an interesting
Speaker 1: paradox to me that he he doesn't He didn't open
Speaker 1: up to that many people in his private life now.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, by the way, he would open
Speaker 1: up to me when we were younger and have a
Speaker 1: girl problem. We'd share these issues. What do you think
Speaker 1: of this? Does she still like me? Does she not
Speaker 1: like me? So he would open up to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's his real close friends. But on the air,
Speaker 1: I think you would agree that he considered his audience
Speaker 1: intimate and he would tell them his deepest, innermost thoughts.
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you. I think that is
Speaker 1: so cool, and I think that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that has made him uniquely popular among his audience that
Speaker 1: developed a bond, and and since he's died, I have
Speaker 1: received thousands of communications, emails, Twitter, messages, Facebook, personal letters,
Speaker 1: unbelievable numbers of people who would say who do say
Speaker 1: I loved him? I feel a personal void. He was
Speaker 1: the best friend I never met. Now this is sounds
Speaker 1: like a cliche unless you read They're not just saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I love your brother passively. No, they're saying I feel wounded.
Speaker 1: I feel a hole in my heart that he died.
Speaker 1: It is an active presence, centered deeply abiding love that
Speaker 1: he generated with millions of people. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: remember being in the studio the day a guy called
Speaker 1: in and tried to explain it all, and he just
Speaker 1: ended up. He think he ended up in tears and
Speaker 1: ended us putting us in tearious when he said, I
Speaker 1: just need to hear your police because it had becomes
Speaker 1: that much of a comfort to just hear his voice.
Speaker 1: And people try to figure out why he was so successful,
Speaker 1: you you just can't put it in a easy define
Speaker 1: herble box. He had some the attributes that went into
Speaker 1: that final product, and I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: had to do with with his personality is openness, his
Speaker 1: love of his audience, his love for what he did,
Speaker 1: his intelligence, his wit, his genuine interest fascination with politics,
Speaker 1: and his uncanny, I would say, unparalleled insight into politics.
Speaker 1: As he used to talk about laughingly being able to
Speaker 1: see the stitches on the fastball. Well that is a
Speaker 1: great metaphor. He could see the stitches on a fastball.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should add to this that so many people
Speaker 1: who don't get it, see, they just don't get it.
Speaker 1: And these are not the ones who ended up being
Speaker 1: his fans. Are the people who think he was full
Speaker 1: of himself, he was a megalomaniac, that he was a narcissist,
Speaker 1: because he would brag all the time. That was all stick.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, he knew he was talented, but
Speaker 1: when he was talking about his talent, it wasn't to brag.
Speaker 1: It was just to be over the top ridiculous and
Speaker 1: and just to be a performer. And and it stuck.
Speaker 1: Those kind of things, and people that understood Rush understood
Speaker 1: that he was saying these things tongue in cheek, even
Speaker 1: though at the same time he did know he was
Speaker 1: very talented. But that wasn't the reason he was saying it.
Speaker 1: He was saying it just for blister and just me.
Speaker 1: But he didn't. Here's what bothers me. He never said
Speaker 1: other than when he was joking and putting people on
Speaker 1: for a routine. He always said what he believes. So
Speaker 1: you read these stories and they say he's bombastic, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't bombastic. And that's another thing. By the way,
Speaker 1: he might have started off being a little bigger than life,
Speaker 1: but as as as his show evolved in these later years,
Speaker 1: they talked about him being mean. Have you ever heard
Speaker 1: him be mean to a caller? It's the most unfair
Speaker 1: thing in this crap about him being a racist. I just,
Speaker 1: I just it blows my mind. He was the tip
Speaker 1: of the spear. He took the arrows for all of
Speaker 1: the rest of us and for the country, and people
Speaker 1: now are taking some of the heat. He took it
Speaker 1: before all the rest of us, and he had no
Speaker 1: one defending I mean, we all tried to defend him.
Speaker 1: There was no mechanism to defend him. And he was
Speaker 1: the toughest guy I've ever seen, not just in the
Speaker 1: way he fought cancer and bounced back and powered through
Speaker 1: that last year, but his whole career who could be
Speaker 1: deaf and be a radio host. And he overcame that,
Speaker 1: He overcame addiction, he overcame all the obstacles that were
Speaker 1: placed in front of him, and all the hate for
Speaker 1: media matters and the rest, and he powered through bigger
Speaker 1: than every one of them to be the most successful
Speaker 1: person that I've ever met in my life, and that everyone,
Speaker 1: at least on our side ended up loving. And I
Speaker 1: am really really proud of him and really miss him. David.
Speaker 1: Thank you me too, And David, I'm happy that you
Speaker 1: shared and and and and those people that are listening
Speaker 1: to our podcast series got a chance to know a
Speaker 1: little bit more about you two. And aside from all
Speaker 1: of the other accomplishments as an author, as a columnist,
Speaker 1: and as a great guy, you are one of the nicest,
Speaker 1: most incredible men I've ever met. It runs into family
Speaker 1: thank you, So are you just so? I I don't
Speaker 1: want to affirm everything you say and come across is conceded.
Speaker 1: I don't think I am and this isn't false modesty.
Speaker 1: I have been so blessed. I don't think I'm particularly
Speaker 1: gifted in any of those areas that I've done, but I.
Speaker 1: I hope that I've done as well as I could
Speaker 1: do in in the with the opportunities that I was given.
Speaker 1: It's an honor to represent the people I've represented. But
Speaker 1: I will repeat none of that would have been possible
Speaker 1: without Rush. I wouldn't have had the confidence to do it,
Speaker 1: nor would I have had the opportunity. And the fact
Speaker 1: that that I have, the fact that he wanted me
Speaker 1: to and open doors for me and tried to get
Speaker 1: me to and to encourage me in my career, both
Speaker 1: careers writing and law, shows what kind of selfless person
Speaker 1: he was. Just another aspect of his self selflessness and
Speaker 1: brotherly love. So thank you for the compliments. But I realized,
Speaker 1: tell if I had not had these boosts and these opportunities,
Speaker 1: that would never have happened. I'm just grateful for everything
Speaker 1: that has happened, and thank you for your kind words
Speaker 1: on that. All right, David, thank you so much. We'll
Speaker 1: talk my man. Love you, David, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you you too, Love you too. So have no fear.
Speaker 1: My brother, noted columnist, attorney, broadcast agent, audio video expert
Speaker 1: send me a little note last night and said, are
Speaker 1: you okay? How are you holding up. I said, well,
Speaker 1: what because it was about nine. He said, well, all
Speaker 1: this demonization. I said, what demonization? I haven't seen any tonight.
Speaker 1: Oh it's all over the place, is well, I haven't
Speaker 1: had the television on him, been doing other things. God
Speaker 1: love it. My little brother David, My little brother David
Speaker 1: m thanks for listening to episode four. My very special
Speaker 1: thanks to Russia's brother David. Now on our next episode,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss this. It was a
Speaker 1: very special moment in the life of not only Rush
Speaker 1: but Russia's fans. The night Rush was awarded the Medal
Speaker 1: of Freedom by President Trump. Sean Hannity joins me to
Speaker 1: discuss that night on our next episode. It was a
Speaker 1: night that surprised all of us, including Rush himself. Rush Limbaugh,
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