1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, the tire's only got a contact patch of 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, the width and the length of that patch 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: area that's hitting the road. That's all that's holding you 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: down there. So you know to have marginal tread. If 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: we're concerned about it, put four tires on it. If 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: the budget allows any good thing, you don't that song, 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: I can take a gas and a radio song The 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Car Doctor is. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: The ninety three octane? 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: Does that have the. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: Ability to clean a little bit too? 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I've always found and everything I've read, a higher octane 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: fuel generally has better cleaners and more cleaners. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 5: And Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 5: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 5: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 5: pick up the phone and call in. 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 6: The garage doors. 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 7: Are open, but I am here to take your call 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 7: at eight five five five ninety nine hundred and now hee, Hey, welcome. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: Hello, and how are you today here at the Car Doctor. 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: That's that's what this radio show is. We're going to 24 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: talk to you about your car and solve your problem, 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and let's kick out the gate 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: right away. Let's give away a couple of tickets to 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: where are we going here? We're going to the Pocono 28 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Raceway July twenty third, the Pokeno four hundred, the Tricky Trying. 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: We've got some level two hundred race tickets, paddocks plus passes, 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: and we're going to be giving these away right now. 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: Let's give away two tickets right now. Hey, Ron, this 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: comes to us from tim Ron. My wife and I 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: have three cars between the two of us. Our twenty 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: twenty one Chevy Silverado rarely gets used. We drive it 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: every few weeks for about three or we drove it 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: every few weeks for about three thousand miles last year. 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: My manual says to change the full synthetic oil every 38 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: seven thousand miles, but at this rate that could be 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: several years from now. Could you recommend some time mileage 40 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: maintenance interviews for really used vehicles. Also, when he tips 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: on how often should I start to drive it, bring 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: to the temperature to print things like caliber freezing up, 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. Tim Ps, I love the Poconos, especially in 44 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: the fall, but we'd love to go in the summer. 45 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha, Tim, you're going to tickets coming your 46 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: way already. Brother, Let's see you know, listen, oil changes 47 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: are about time and mileage. Okay, it's what every one 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: you believe in. As far as a minimum spec I 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: think seven thousands probably the end of the spectrum. I 50 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: would be doing it every five on a full synthetic. 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: And my biggest argument for perhaps what some people might 52 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: view as doing an oil change early is to look 53 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: at the purchase price of that twenty twenty one Chevy 54 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Silverado that was easily a fifty thousand dollars truck. If not, 55 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: then it is now and then some So you know, 56 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: it's what's the price of an oil change versus the 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: cost of replacement vehicle? And how soon do you want 58 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: to do it if that is an active fuel management Silverado, 59 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: which I bet it is, if it's a fifteen hundred, 60 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the more oil, the cleaner, more better quality oil you 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: can put in there, the better if you are, because 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: you could have some issues with it going down the road. 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: Not to scare you, but you know, we can't prevent disease, 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: but we can sure as control it and possibly eliminate 65 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: it if we can by better oil changes. You know, 66 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: so I'm going to tell you regard regardless of mileage, 67 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: I would change you ail in that truck every six months, 68 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: and at that that's a reach. My concern is lack 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: of use is going to rust this truck. So, you know, 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: one of the other things you may want to consider 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: is perhaps undercoating it, either painting it or using a 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: product like NHOU New Hampshire Oil undercoating and spraying some 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: New Hampshire oil undercoding on it, getting a treatment. You 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: can do this yourself. They make it available with a 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: spray gun kit. They make it. They also make it 76 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: available in you know, regular twelve or sixteen ounce spray 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: cans to hit some of the critical areas. But my 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: concern is the vehicle is going to sit and rust, 79 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: and no matter what you do, you're going to suffer 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: from corrosion and the annoying things that happen from a 81 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: vehicle that sits. As far as how often to start it, 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: drive it, et cetera. Bring it the temperature. May it 83 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: be great if you could do it at least once 84 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: a week. You know, maybe this is the Hey, let's 85 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: go out and get ice cream in the middle of 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the summer. Truck, or hey, let's go out for a 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: ride Thursday nights or something, just to drive it one 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: day out of the week. We'll keep the battery charge, 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: we'll keep things fresh, we'll keep things moving. You may 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: want to take it into your local mechanic and perhaps 91 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the next time they rotate tires, consider asking them to 92 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: make sure the break caliber slides are lubricated. Sometimes out 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: of the factory, the factory will not put break grease, 94 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: what we call break grease. 95 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: It's a silicon grease. 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I know. It is ac Delco lubricant that will apply 97 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: to the brake slides to keep things moving and keep 98 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: things fresh. And you know it prevents the calipers from 99 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: binding and locking up. An excellent way. 100 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 6: To do it. 101 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: But as far as you know, listening nothing is better 102 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: than driving it, all right, So you know, as far 103 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: as what else can you do if you follow that, 104 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: I think that's going to help promote the life of it. 105 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the only other choice is rotating it 106 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: around and maybe subbing it in for one of the 107 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: other vehicles once in a while. I sort of have 108 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: the same situation. I've as you guys all know, I've 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: got an O four suburban with about eighty seven thousand 110 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: miles on it. Now, I've got a twenty twenty two 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Silverado twenty five hundred series, and I kind of swap 112 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: them back and forth. The Silverado's the plow truck vehicle. 113 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: The Suburban's my everyday vehicle. You know, I've got a 114 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: few other cars I could be driving, but those are 115 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: fortunately being used or they sit in the safe storage 116 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: and atmosphere controlled and all that, so they're okay. But 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: I do drive. I try to drive the suburban most 118 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: of the time. Is just happened to like it. And 119 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: the plow truck gets driven at least once, if not 120 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: twice a week if I can, if I can possibly 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: do it, so you know, definitely something to consider. The 122 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: more you drive it, the better if you are. But 123 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: in conclusion, all right, I'll wrap it up here. At 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: least change the oil once every six months, regardless of mileage. 125 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously good oil, good filter. Consider you know, 126 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: coding the undercarriage nh Oil Undercoating. You can go out 127 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: to nhoil undercoting dot com to read more about the product, 128 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: the oil treatment that they provide. You know, consider the 129 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: next time the tires get rotated to take a look 130 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: at the breaks, if the calipers have exposed slides, or 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: if they're dry. Sometimes they're dry from the fat. The 132 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: factory does not grease break caliber slides on every vehicle. 133 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I've been told for because of the aromatics the vapor 134 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: that it gives off that might affect the quality of 135 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: the paint shot when the vehicle's painted in the booth, 136 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: which I find hard to believe, but that's the answer 137 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: I consistently get. You may want to have the caliber 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: slides grease that way, but the more you drive it 139 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: the better if you can just rotate things around. 140 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 6: And thanks for the question. Tim. 141 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: By the way, we've got two tickets coming your way 142 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: for the Pocono four hundred coming out there July twenty third, 143 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and we look forward to seeing you out there. We'll 144 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: be out there in the stands somewhere with you. 145 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 6: Guys. 146 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: We've got two tickets coming your way, So thank you 147 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: very much. We appreciate it. We appreciate the question as always, 148 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: So if you're interested, if anybody's got an opportunity or 149 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: everybody wants an opportunity to try and get a couple 150 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: of tickets, I've got what have I got left? I 151 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: think I got two left out of the pile. It's 152 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: groowned this week. Boy, We've we sent out a bunch 153 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: of tickets this week. Research Kathy's been hard at work 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: doing her things. So you know we've got we're down 155 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to the bottom of the barrel, but we think we've 156 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: got two left now, with the exception of tim. I'll 157 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: check it again after the pause, so you know, just 158 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: be aware. I want to talk to you about diagnostics 159 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: if I can, If I can go here real quick 160 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: before the pause, or maybe I'll start and now we'll 161 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: finish up on the other side. You know, I want 162 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: to talk to you about the need for diagnostics and 163 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: some of the things that get involved. There's an expression 164 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: among fighter pilots where they talk about, you know what 165 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: you get in with the whole nine yards. You know 166 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: where that expression the whole nine yards comes from. That's 167 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: the conversation because it's rumored to be the length of 168 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: an ammunition belt for a fifty caliber a board of 169 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: B seventeen. And you know, that's where I believe the 170 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: saying started during the Second World War, and sometimes in 171 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: a repair shop you have to throw the whole nine 172 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: yards at the repair. You have to throw the whole 173 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: nine yards at the repair attempt because it's involved, it's complicated, 174 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: it's just a little over the top. We had a 175 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: twenty eleven Lexus RX three fifty in the shop this 176 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: week and it's set a P zero six oh seven 177 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: engine performance fault code and that was the description. It 178 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere else for that. And you know, it 179 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: didn't specifically cite any other sensor or circuit. It just 180 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: said engine performance, engine module performance fault. 181 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 6: Is exactly what the wording was. 182 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Well, when you look up a six h seven, the 183 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: description from the factory using factory information from Toyota is vague. 184 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: It's they talk about PCM powerchain control module, engine control module, 185 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: they talk about oxygen sensor faults, they talk about grounds. 186 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: They don't really cite any one particular point or or 187 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, failing component. When I did my research and 188 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I looked at bulletins, I looked at pattern failures in 189 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: the database, and I looked at you know, other things 190 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: that have afflicted that vehicle. I saw a range of 191 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: possibilities from batteries to battery cables, to engine control computers, 192 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: to oxygen sensors, air fuel ratio sensors. It was it 193 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: was a little of everything, and it's hard to get 194 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: a grip and know what you're chasing. And one of 195 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: the pieces of information which came to me via Opus. 196 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: The guy's over at Opus I v s uh, you know, 197 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: their their tech line, And I was talking to Kelly 198 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and Jason and we started talking about O two sensors 199 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: and discussing the ways we could test those two sensors. 200 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: Let's let's you know, because I went to, hey, let's 201 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: prove what's good. If I can prove what's good, maybe 202 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: I'll figure out what's bad. And it was a it 203 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: was a good direction for us to go because using 204 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: my Opus scan tool, I was able to graph the 205 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: two downstream because there's there's two upstream air fuels too. 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: Downstream O twos, I was able to graph the downstream 207 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: O two sensors and watch the bank one sensor one downstream. 208 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bank one sensor two downstream O two did 209 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: not turn on at the same time as the bank 210 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: two sensor two O two sensor. It gets confusing, right, 211 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Bank one, bank two censor one sensor two, et cetera. 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: You could see it. 213 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: The output signal was just flatlined it. It just went nowhere, 214 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and it was about three and a half maybe four 215 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: minutes in time lag behind turning on for the other one. 216 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: One turned on and you could count it two minutes, 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: three minutes, almost four minutes later that other two turned 218 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: on and started working further research. And the boys at 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: OPUS were as good as they ever were, and as 220 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: they always are. They went and got me and dug 221 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: out of the archives a time stamp that we have 222 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: to see both O two's within thirty seconds come up 223 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: somewhere between thirty and sixty seconds, you know, but at 224 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: least to be equal, which yeah, I agree with that. 225 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, if this one's doing it, that one's 226 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: doing it. And by conclusive testing of tell me what's good, 227 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's bad. We actually found out what 228 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: was bad right off the bat. Too bad O two 229 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: as well one bad O two the bank one O 230 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: two censored downstream was bad. It had failed, and I 231 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: put in both of them, and sure enough, the next day, 232 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: because I have to do this cold, I was able 233 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to graph out with my Opus the two sensors turning 234 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: on and looking at the heater current load being applied, 235 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and they were both equal and sure enough, within a 236 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: couple of hours of driving, the vehicle ran its monitors, 237 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: it ran its self tests, everything passed, and the vehicles 238 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: fixed and out the door. So tip of the hat 239 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: to the guys over at Opus Opus IVS, their scan tool, 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: their technology, their support system. There's so much more than 241 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: a scan tool, and you know, for the ability to 242 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: help again solve another hard to solve problem. But you know, 243 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: some days you just got to throw the whole nine 244 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: yards at it, and that's what we did. Everything but 245 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the kitchen sink eight five five five six zero nine 246 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm running ending the car doctor and 247 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. 248 00:11:45,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 8: Don't go away when you gain keep Ron's number handy 249 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 8: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 250 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 8: for when you really need advice on your car. 251 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 6: Here's Rob. Hey, let's get over. 252 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh you know what before I forget, I also want 253 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: to point out because Tom sent me a text over 254 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: over the break, not my Tom. Another Tom send me 255 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: an email over the break. I wants to know more 256 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: about Opus IVS OPISIVS dot com. Tom, get out online 257 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: opis iv S O p U s opisivs dot com. 258 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: You want to read more about the scan tools. A 259 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: repair shop owner up in New England and he wants 260 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: to know what that's all about. And remember, it's not 261 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: just a scan tool, Tom, it's it's it's it's a 262 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: support system that uses a scan tool along with techline 263 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: to make the product work and help fix cars. So 264 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: OPISIVS dot com. Let's go over to Bruce in California 265 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and see what's going on here. Oh five Chevy, Tom Bruce. 266 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, how. 267 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: Can I help? 268 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Thanks Ron for taking my call. I really, first of all, 269 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: really really appreciate your show. You helped me out so 270 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: much on the car, just keeping it going. Yeah. 271 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 272 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 4: The reason I'm calling today is the transmission. It's it's 273 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: acting up a little bit. It's given me some real 274 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: harsh upshift from first to second and but but when 275 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: it goes from second to third, it feels kind of soft. 276 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: And and I think the third to fourth is like 277 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: the second third, it's kind of soft. It doesn't quite 278 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: feel normal. But the one that you really notice is 279 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: the feet of the pants the first second, and it's 280 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: not consistent. It's it's just it's it's sometimes it's most 281 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: of the time, and sometimes it's seldom. 282 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 6: How many miles are on this, Bruce. 283 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: It's as you say, it's got a bucks ninety seven. 284 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's got two undred thousand miles on it 285 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: and that's that's the original trans in there. 286 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, what is the What does the fluid 287 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 6: look like? 288 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 4: I just checked it. It's nice and red, nice red color. 289 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 6: All right, last time it was changed. 290 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: Three years ago? Right? 291 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: How many? How many? How many miles of that three 292 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 6: years ago? 293 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: Oh uh? I have that ballpark fi pandemic? Yeah okay, 294 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: oh oh probably wait less it's been pandemic time, so 295 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: it doesn't get much use. 296 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's talk general theory about transmission. 297 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Any dashboard warning lights on? 298 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, okay. 299 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: You know, if this had a P zero eight ninety four, 300 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: I'd start thinking about a TORU converter that's coming apart 301 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: and maybe putting debris in the trans and clogging the 302 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: filter and things like that. I mean, listen, you're surely 303 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: at the age and mile as you're you're eighteen years 304 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: old and two hundred thousand miles. This is an five 305 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: you said, right, Yeah, okay, you know you're surely at 306 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: the age of mileage where we would expect to have 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: to do a trans overhaul. One of the things I 308 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: would try first, okay, is you know and this is 309 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: this is perhaps you've decided you've reached you know, failsafe 310 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: that if this doesn't work, you're ready to pull the 311 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: trans apart. I don't think you're going to pull this 312 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: apart to repair it, because at two undred thousand miles, 313 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: the amount of time needed to take it apart isn't 314 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: going to justify the expense. Just an overhauling it all right, 315 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, to take a part valve body to take 316 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: apart and maybe do it. Look at an accumulator spring 317 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: and things like that. You know, maybe that's broken. But 318 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: if it broke, what made it break? And what's the 319 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: rest of the trans look like? You know, it's got 320 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: two NdREE thousand miles on If we think this isn't 321 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Before I tell you this, let me ask you this. 322 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: When it goes into lock up, you know, at fifty 323 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: five sixty miles an hour, does it does it shudder 324 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: it all? Do you get that that vibratational shake like 325 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: you're driving on the shoulder of the road full and 326 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: to sleep on the nut. 327 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that feeling. I know exactly what you mean. 328 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: I've had cars that right. 329 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 6: Then my suggestion probably wouldn't work. 330 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: My suggestion was going to be, if you feel like 331 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: you've reached fail safe where you're ready to take the 332 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: trans apart, and you know the fluid is clean, then 333 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, a transadditive, a friction modifier, a friction enhancer 334 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: available in a local ODA part store will surely add 335 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: to the fluid and perhaps give the trends a little 336 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: more bite. 337 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 6: But you're not getting that shutter. 338 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: You know. 339 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes that shutter accompanies the hard shift. When you've got 340 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: a physical hard shift, it's time for a mechanic to 341 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: It's one of two things. We're either going to take 342 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: the trans apart or we're going to attach pressure gauges 343 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and look at pressure line readings and decide, you know 344 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: what's broken and why and why is it failing if 345 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: nothing is physically broken. Remember high school science class with 346 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: the beakers in chemistry. 347 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: I never did too good in chemistry. Well, but remember. 348 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Remember the glass beakers. Right, you had a glass speaker 349 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: with a graduated stone, right, yeah, okay, And if you 350 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: found a round piston that perfectly fit that that container, 351 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: that glass beaker, and it had liquid in it, right, 352 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: if you could gently push down on that and compress 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: the liquid and then bounce back and compress the liquid 354 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: and bounce back. That's kind of how an accumulator spring 355 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: works in a transmission, all right. It absorbs the blow 356 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: as pressure builds, and it gives it room for expansion, 357 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: and then it comes back. And in between in between 358 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: that up and down that expansion movement is the point 359 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: at which the transmission shifts. And how much you can 360 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: absorb that that that bang, that that sensation will allow 361 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: the vehicle to either shift smoothly or hardly. 362 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 6: So the question is. 363 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Is the chemistry class beaker broken or is it just 364 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: worn out allowing fluid to leak pass to not properly 365 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: control that shift point. At two hundred thousand miles internal 366 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: seals possibility of damaged and broken parts, you got to 367 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: do an overhaul. 368 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 6: I think at this point. 369 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: The last thing I think somebody could try is pull 370 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: the trans filter down, cut it open. 371 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 6: Do they see any debris and material in it? If 372 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 6: they do, you know you're on the right path. 373 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: But short of that and some line pressure readings, I 374 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: think you're headed for an overhaul, my friend. But you 375 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: can go one step at a time. I appreciate the call. 376 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm running Indy in the car doctor. I'm back right 377 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back, I'm run name the car doctor. Jeez, 378 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: we're already halfway through an hour. Where does the time go? 379 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: It's like you blink and it's Saturday, and then you 380 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: blinking it's Sunday, and I don't know, appresumably be back 381 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: here again, doing this all over again. 382 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 6: Let's go to Vincent in Illinois. That's where I want 383 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 6: to go. 384 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Eighteen Chevy Silverado and some questions about AFM Vincent. 385 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: Welcome to the cardot for sure? How can I help? 386 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Hey, how you doing? 387 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 7: So? 388 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: I've got, you know, just the question surrounding that one, 389 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: and it's kind of a three part question, and I'll 390 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: be really quick. One, I have a five point three 391 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: liter engine. Okay, how many times have you seen the 392 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: lifter failure pass through your shop? Two? Aside from proactive 393 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: maintenance meaning oil changes on a regular basis, things like that, 394 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: what else can I do to avert staring down the 395 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: barrel of an extensive repair when it comes to those 396 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: lifters at you know, forty fifty thousand miles if that's 397 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: the case, Because I'm like you, I plan on keep 398 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: in mind, this is it for me. I'm not buying 399 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: any more cars. And three, what do you think about 400 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: those devices that you can plug into the OBD two 401 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: ports to stop it from reverting back to four cylinders 402 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: and keeping it a VA model the whole time. 403 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's let's take the pile as 404 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: they come up. In the last I'll give you a 405 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: time span in the last five years. I can count 406 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: off the top of my head five cases of AFM 407 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: is shi is through the shop, physically through the shop, 408 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: all right, that we've repaired. I can also tell you 409 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: that the reason I can say that I have such 410 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: a low count on that number one, it's a new 411 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: it's these this is on newer vehicles, which some are 412 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: still under warranty. But I also blame it on the fact, 413 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: if I have to blame it anywhere, is that we're 414 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: always on our regular customers for regular oil changes. And 415 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: and I don't want to thump my chest and say, hey, 416 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: look what I did, but it's the only logical conclusion 417 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I can come to. You know, I am in I 418 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: am in close contact with the repair shops around me. 419 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: We all talk on a regular basis, and we do 420 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: seem to have a lower number of AFM related engine 421 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: problems than they do. I can't say what they're doing 422 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: as far as oil changes, filters, type, frequency, et cetera. 423 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: But I can just tell you, you know, two and 424 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: two is four. In order to repair it always has 425 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: to add up. And that's the only logical conclusion I 426 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: can come to. Maybe I've got less AFM vehicles coming 427 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: to me, that's possible, but I just thought thought it 428 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: was a weird number. Now around me, you know, we 429 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: see a fair share. A lot of them have gone 430 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: back to a lot of them have gone back to 431 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: dealerships on a regular basis. Some of them because they're 432 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: extended warranties. I have to think back to. I'd have 433 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: to go back and look it up to say, okay, 434 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: what was really the age of those vehicles with a 435 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: FM Because the dealerships have taken you know, there has 436 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: been warranty issues. They have been how can I say it, 437 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: They're they're doing them under warranty or extended programs. I 438 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: think if you wanted to understand, well, let's say it 439 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: like this to answer the last part of your question. Uh, 440 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: you know the systems that disable AFM. You know, there's 441 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: two approaches there. One You're one you're electrically preventing it 442 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: from happening, but you still have the same componentry that 443 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: could wear. You still have the same lifters set up, 444 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: you still have the same rock or arm geometry and 445 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: so forth in the engines. I would take a look at, 446 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: and I haven't done so yet, but I want to 447 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: see how Jasper, the folks at Jasper Engines, is eliminating 448 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: the AFM system, because there actually came to market about 449 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: six months maybe a year ago now where they're actually 450 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: selling a five point three leter AFM Active Fuel Management 451 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: Delete Engine package which deletes the system. I don't know 452 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: if that deletes it mechanically, you know, or if they're 453 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: deletes it electronically. The way they describe it, it seems like 454 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: they're eliminating it mechanically. And I like that better because 455 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, they've taken the components that fail out of 456 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: the system and they've you know, they've got it set 457 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: up as things that are mechanical and I I'm sorry, 458 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: you know right, it's it's a more mechanical solution than 459 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, just just eliminating electronically making it so it 460 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: doesn't turn on. So, but it's an interesting question. I'd 461 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: have to really sit down and study it. I think 462 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: the best way to eliminate. Oh and one more thing 463 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: I just want to tell. 464 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 6: You about this. 465 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Take a look at it if you can get your 466 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: hands on it. You know, there's a lot of bulletins 467 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of conversation about AFM Active fuel Management. 468 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: GM's got a bulletin out there. It's very nondescript in 469 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: terms of ge this really applies to AFM. Take a 470 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: look at bulletin number fifteen das SHO six das show 471 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: one desh double oh two twenty. I'll say that again, 472 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: fifteen das SHO six das sho one desh double oh 473 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: two zero and it's headed something along the lines of 474 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: engine misfire, ticking noise, P zero three hundred, set and 475 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: go down. I remember the bulletin because it describes the 476 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: causes of what could make an AFM system problem. And 477 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, I read bulletins because you know, what is 478 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: the manufacturer thinking, what is their position? Why do they 479 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: think this particular problem happens or that particular problem happens, 480 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: and they talk about active fuel management. They talk about 481 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: the lifter mechanically being collapsed or stuck. They talk about 482 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: internal lock pin failure because of oil oration and you know, 483 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: again oil aeration. You know, problems either with oil pressure, 484 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: problems with the oil pump itself, problems with the quality 485 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: of the oil. Although they don't actually say that, but 486 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I think the I think my conclusion is that, based 487 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: on what I see in the shop, based on the bulletins, 488 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: I read that if I'm trying to prevent AFM, short 489 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: of deleting the system or creating that workaround for the system, 490 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to just stay on top of my oil changes, 491 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: good quality oil, good quality filter, and let the cards 492 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: fall where they may. I want to get one hundred 493 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: and fifty. I want to get tow hndred thousand out 494 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: of my engine before I have to think about, you know, 495 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: possibly repairing it and replacing it. 496 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 6: So I admire what you're trying to do. 497 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: And if you are thinking about, you know, this is 498 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: the last vehicle and you're not going to buy another one, 499 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: you just start thinking about stockpiling parts as well. You 500 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: guys now I feel about that. It's getting to the 501 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: point now where we're seeing so many things go away 502 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: that were once on the shelf for a long long 503 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: time that it makes you wonder, what's you know, what 504 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: the next couple of years is going to bring in 505 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: terms of parts availability. So anyway, I hope that doesn't 506 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: for you've got more. You know where to find me 507 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero 508 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: running any of the card doctor, And I'm back right 509 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: after this. 510 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: Welcome back. Let's go over to Joe. 511 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: And Iowa twenty two Chevy Malibu. Joe, Welcome to the 512 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, Sir, how can I help? 513 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Thanks, Ron, welcome. Hey, I love your show. You 514 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: guys are real, real nice to grow, courteous to speak to. 515 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: So I so this is a new car. I mean 516 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: it's got like fifty six hundred miles on it. Okay, 517 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: it is under it is in a warranty, but I 518 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: had a dealer. So what I'm hearing is a little 519 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: clicking noise around the turlo area. And it's never noticed 520 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: it before. And so when you give it, if you 521 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: have the hood open, you know, it's not real loud, 522 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: But if you have the hood open, then you can 523 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: hear it, you know, real well. And when you give 524 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: it a little bit of a with the accelerator pedal, 525 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: you hear a click and you let off and it'll 526 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: click again. And you give it some more gas, it'll 527 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: click and then you let off it'll click again. So 528 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 3: I fell at the dealership. They didn't work on it. 529 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: Lea says, well, have to. I'll take a like a 530 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: stethoscope and listen to it, and you know, we had 531 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: to reschedule it or something, you know, later time. But 532 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: he's thinking it's something in a turbo, like a shaft 533 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: or something, the two shafts that maybe moving. I don't 534 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: think that's the problem. I don't want it torn apart, 535 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: you know. Without me checking a little bit farther, it 536 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: sounds to me there's on that turbo, on the inlet 537 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: side of that turbo. I don't know what it is 538 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: and never looked into it real at all, but there's 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: a plastic piece, you know, on the inlet side, like 540 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: on the circumference of it, you know where the like 541 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: lower wheel would be like a damper, and you know, 542 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: well there is a damper. I'm guessing it's a damper 543 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: with like a diaphragm, right, and it's spring loaded. It's 544 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: got a warning on the spring loaded. This diaphragm, it's 545 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: if that's in steel with a rod run into it. 546 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: And then there's a lever on the top of the 547 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: turbo that opens and closes like some kind of a 548 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: damper control. 549 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 6: Sounds like you're talking. 550 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: About that, sounds like we're that sounds like you're talking 551 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: about the wastegate. 552 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be. I've never had a vehicle with 553 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: a turbo, and I've never really read into it, so, 554 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: which I need to do. But but the noise, So 555 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 3: if I got a pair of them stethoscopes, you know, 556 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: just one of them cheap ones you get at the 557 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: hardware store. And I was listening to it, and I'm 558 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: hearing the noise the most I can hear it in 559 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: that damper or that I'm sorry that the diaphragm, the 560 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: metal diaphragm, but it's I hear it more in this 561 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: plastic piece. It's screwed on. Look like it's screwed on 562 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: the side of that aluminum casting, right, So to me, yeah, 563 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: to me, and you know, I don't know much about 564 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 3: the turbos, but to me, it sounds like gets maybe 565 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 3: like a check valve switch, you know, moving back and forth, 566 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: or like or a shuttle you know, shuttle valve and 567 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what the darn things. 568 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: Well, but part of the problem here, Joe, is how 569 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: does GM allow for that to be repaired? 570 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 6: By that? 571 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, are they going to sell you a turbo 572 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: as an assembly, so the turbo is going to come assembled, 573 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: waistgate and all, or do they allow and sell it 574 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: as individual components. Most of the time in the past, 575 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: when I've purchased turbos, I'm purchasing complete assemblies I can buy. 576 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: I can buy just a wastegate assembly for certain manufacturers, 577 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: and it depends on the manufacturer. Hyundai comes to mind. 578 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: But if I purchase a complete turbo, I generally get 579 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: a complete turbo assembly, old one out and new one in, 580 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: bolted up. 581 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 6: I'm done. 582 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: I want to just so that being said, I think 583 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: you've got to let the dealer be be the mechanic. 584 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking what you're doing, but I don't want 585 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: you to overthink and stand at their elbow. Let them 586 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: try to fix it first, because they have to follow 587 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: a procedure as per corporate GM. 588 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 6: I do want to say this. 589 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that this is your problem, but I 590 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: am aware of a bulletin twenty three dish NA dish 591 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: four to zero that talks about a rattle or knocking 592 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: noise from under the hood, and it's due to a 593 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: problem in the transmission torque converter. I'm not saying I'm 594 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: not saying that's your problem, but it's a noise bulletin. 595 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: It's described more as a rattle. But everybody's definition of 596 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: what a noise sounds like is different, you know. I 597 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: would just want to address that as a possibility if 598 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: we want to avoid taking apart the wrong thing. I'm 599 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: not saying they are, but if we want to avoid 600 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: taking apart the wrong thing, that's just another thing to 601 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: look at. I think part of any diagnosis here, you know. 602 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: And I've made this mistake. I've fallen into the trap of, well, 603 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: it sounds like this, let's take that part. And then 604 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: I read the bulletin. I read my list of bulletins 605 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: after the repair when it didn't work, and I go, oh, 606 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, I missed that. Uh. You know, ag age 607 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: has taught me a few things. With age comes wisdom, 608 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: they say, or wisdom comes with age. However, you want 609 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: to look at it, so, you know, I I would suggest, 610 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, go back and say, hey, listen, before we 611 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: take the turbo apart, is this bulletin you know that 612 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: talks about you know, a rattle noise out of the 613 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: torque converter. Is it possible that this is applicable to 614 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: my vehicle as part? And you know, maybe that'll kind 615 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: of jiggle them into into looking at you know, their 616 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: bulletin list. And they're surely going to have more up 617 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to date stuff than anybody because they're the manufacturer, you know, 618 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: they're the dealers red. So yeah, just just just my 619 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: just my from my from my seat here. You know, 620 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: we can't have and I want to hit this a 621 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: little lightly, but I want to hit it. We can't 622 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: have uh analysis paralysis. I don't want to you know, 623 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: let's not overanalyze it. Let's you know, let's go back 624 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: and talk and say, hey, if this is a turbo problem, are. 625 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: We replacing the whole thing? We are we. 626 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Doing component repair? You know, remember the dealer, the dealer 627 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: has resources. There's a difference between working on a turbo 628 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: that's making noise in a repair shop that's got one 629 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it and in a dealership that's 630 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: got five thousand miles on it. That that that you're 631 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: you're you're dealing with if it is in the turbo 632 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: or whatever you're it's it is, you're dealing with a 633 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: manufacturing defect, not a not aware item. And that's always been, 634 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: in my mind, a different type of repair. You approach 635 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: it the same, but it's a different type of repair 636 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: because you're dealing with a manufacturing defect. They've got the 637 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: ability to go back to their tech support department and say, hey, 638 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: you know, we've got this turbo in Joe's Malibu that's 639 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: doing X Y. Oh yeah, we got you know, ten 640 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: thousand cases of that across the country this morning. Uh, 641 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, everybody seems to be going through it. We've 642 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: tracked it down to the guy that put the bullet 643 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: in on the left side of the turbo case was 644 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: having a bed day because he had a fight with 645 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: his wife. 646 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 6: And we're recalling all those units. 647 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying crazy, crazy things like that happen, right. 648 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, I know what you're saying. You know 649 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: what was that, Well, go ahead, that bulletin number. Did 650 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: you say twenty. 651 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: Three dash NA like North America? Dash oh four? 652 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, dash wise. 653 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: Dash four oh oh four zero zero four zero zero 654 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: four zero zero, Yes, sir, Yeah. 655 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: That's on the pork. Yeah. 656 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the issue, you know, because you 657 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: can really clearly hear it right there at that uh. 658 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: And I can hear it this plastic piece so much 659 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: better than I can on the turbo. 660 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 661 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Just you know, like once in a while, Joe, noise carries. 662 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: But at the very least, if we get them to 663 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: start looking at bulletins, you know, it's sometimes we got 664 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: to turn the light bulb on. You know, sometimes sometimes 665 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: we gotta we got to turn the light on and 666 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: and and get. 667 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 6: Them to look. 668 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: So do that and give me a call back if 669 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: you need more, Joe. I appreciate the call. I've got 670 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: to go. I'm running late for my next break. I'm 671 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: running any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right 672 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: after this. 673 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: Second. 674 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 6: It's not a big motorcycle dist. 675 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back running any of the car doctor. Let's uh, 676 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: where are we here? You know, I want to make 677 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: a comment. Brian sheer on Sharon enterprises the machine shop 678 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: that we've established the relationship with just by virtue of 679 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: this radio show. And I want to point out that 680 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: Sharon is the Montpelier Virginia in Hanover County. I guess 681 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: there's I guess there's two Montpellier's in Virginia, but Brian's 682 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: in Hanover County. He says, he just shot me an 683 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: email and he said, Hey, Ron, listening to the show. 684 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about afm ACT, the fuel management GM engines. 685 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: In my experience, you are on regarding a quality of oil. 686 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: Do not use regular basic store oils. DEXOS is very important, 687 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: he points out. And he also talks about sludge as 688 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: being the main culprit that has experienced. And there's a 689 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: guy that's rebuilding engines, so it comes back to it 690 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: always comes back to the oil change. You know. It's 691 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of like it amazes me manufacturers they I don't know, 692 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: they do this thing where they tell you we're going 693 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: to go longer on the oil change, and then when 694 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: there's engine failure, we talk about bulletins and problems and 695 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: they can't understand why and where they come from. It's 696 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, opening a gym right next 697 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: to a donut shop, and everybody can't understand why they 698 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: never get into shape. It's it just doesn't make any 699 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: sense to me. Let's give away a pair of race 700 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: tickets real quick if I can in my list minute here, 701 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: ron what's your opinion of trading of the value of 702 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: trading in my twenty nineteen suber u Forester with fifty 703 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, putting that towards a newer model 704 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: on the original loaner in the car is paid in full. 705 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: If I get full trade in value from Super and 706 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: a brand new car, should I hold it on for 707 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: a longer lifespan? What do you think the sweet spot 708 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: of upgrading lives? It's a twenty nineteen Thanks for Ronica 709 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: from New Jersey. 710 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 6: PS. I want race tickets. 711 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: I want to take my boyfriend for his birthday out 712 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: to the Poconos, Veronica. 713 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 6: The tickets are on their way. 714 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I think if you can afford it now, now is 715 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: the time to trade in that Subaru. I think it's 716 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: a matter of monthly payments and expense. Everything's going to 717 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: need maintenance and repair. It's can you afford it at 718 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: this point in the game, And if you can, it's 719 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: a great time to make the move. I'm ronning Andy 720 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: and the car Doctor, reminding each and every one of 721 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 722 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: See you