WEBVTT - AEW Was The Better Show/NXT Ratings/Michael Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. It's Thursday on this show. No date is today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got a lot to talk about, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here today. A W n x T. I

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<v Speaker 1>finally watched all of n x T two point oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we'll talk about a W first. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the better show by like Miles, and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>the go home show for the Full Gear pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view coming up this weekend. We've got a number of

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<v Speaker 1>matches announced for that show and it's taken place Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be heading down to San Jose, California, where

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and I are going to watch the first two

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<v Speaker 1>hours of Full Year. Then we're going to jump in

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<v Speaker 1>the car and go to New Japan Battle in the Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're gonna jump in the car and go back

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<v Speaker 1>to his house to watch the final hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of the full Gear show. Then we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do a radio show about it, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get an airplane and fly back home for a

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<v Speaker 1>very very busy weekend. We'll be back Sunday night normal

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<v Speaker 1>schedule as well, so it's gonna be quite the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well over all of the matches scheduled for the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and also talk about the rest of the news the

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamite Show, n x T two point oh, the ratings

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<v Speaker 1>for n x T two point oh, which they are

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<v Speaker 1>what they are. That's what they are for every show, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the exception being the third hour of Raw, which is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die from this point forward. But we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all of that here today. We'll take your feedback at

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<v Speaker 1>four to five seven eight zero seven five six six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a text message line, by the way, seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>zero seven five six six Bryant Rustling observed dot com

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<v Speaker 1>at bran Elbos on Twitter. And in the main event

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<v Speaker 1>of today's show, we will be joined by Michael Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>no relation to Eddie Kingston, although we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it if you want to. He's going to be joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a new Headlocked Tails from the Road, a

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<v Speaker 1>volume two Kickstarter a campaign which ends tonight. It's already

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<v Speaker 1>exceeded its goal, so the it will be created, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can always continue to donate right now. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that here today and everything else he's up to.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's coming up later on and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>to kick off the show after the break. Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, bright Over is here. Wrestling Observer Alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike simper Viv, also of Wrestling Observer dot com. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys all know what the term ribbing on the square means.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Let's say that Mike has got a let's

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<v Speaker 1>pretend he's got a cone head, all right, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this sing or whatever, and we're arguing back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I talked about how bro, your hat can barely

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<v Speaker 1>balance on that cone head. O. I'm just joking, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't like his cone head. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>ribbing on the square means. Is that good? It was

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible analogy, horrible. I didn't want to actually say

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<v Speaker 1>what you're horrible at might so I try to be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice guy, go ahead and do it. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>then I bring this up because during an appearance on

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<v Speaker 1>The Sports Illustrated media podcast, Becky Lynch addressed her real

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<v Speaker 1>life issues with Charlotte Flair and built up their Matched

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor series. Speaking on the podcast, Lynch was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>the confrontation with Charlotte. She says, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>We don't talk anymore. We don't talk. All I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>is the locker room needs to hear sometimes, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>somebody has got to be a hero. I'm all right

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<v Speaker 1>being that hero. That's all I'll say on the matter

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Then she said more. They asked if it

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<v Speaker 1>was more difficult to face somebody who you are having

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<v Speaker 1>issues with in real life, and she says, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent more difficult. Yeah. That's the thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>you've got two people that are wanting to work together

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<v Speaker 1>to make a magic, you make magic. Sometimes when there's

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<v Speaker 1>hostility where you can't trust the person, then you never

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen. You always have to be

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<v Speaker 1>on guard. It's like a game of chess. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be thinking two steps, three steps, four steps ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they gonna do? How am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>handle it? If they do this, if they do that. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>This business is built on trust, it's built on working together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the art of it. That's the beauty of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If I make you look good, you make me look good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an art. It's a beautiful art. It's an art

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<v Speaker 1>I love more than anything. If people don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to make that art, it becomes difficult, it becomes tricky,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never really get the full potential. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>intrigue there too, because we never know was this meant

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, was that not meant to happened? What's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go down? There's interest in both ways. One way

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<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful period of pro wrestling, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>way it's a bit of a s show. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Remember when they had that deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the belt where they were told to swap these belts.

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<v Speaker 1>It was stupid and everyone knew was stupid. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they go out on television and they had a Kurf

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<v Speaker 1>fluffle and ended up really upset. And then they went

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<v Speaker 1>to the back and they they had a screaming match

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<v Speaker 1>at Guerrilla and etcetera, etcetera. You guys remember that story,

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<v Speaker 1>and what did I What did I tell you afterwards?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what they're gonna do is they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to turn this into a storyline, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to convince you that all of this was

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<v Speaker 1>planned from the beginning. Now we've got this interview where

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<v Speaker 1>she's not ribbing on the square, but there's a there

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<v Speaker 1>is a there is a stark reality to some of this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a reality to the fact that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues between these two people, and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>them play out on television. But it is abundantly clear

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<v Speaker 1>that they are using this now to build up Survivor Series.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that this is what's going to happen, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But I read this interview and I hearkened back to

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<v Speaker 1>Raw on Monday and they had that video package for

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor Series and what was it? What was the Survivor

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<v Speaker 1>Series video package on Sunday focused on on Monday? Why

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<v Speaker 1>it was focused on Sean Michael's and Brett Hart from

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<v Speaker 1>and what did they say? You never know? I forget

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<v Speaker 1>the exact line, but it was like, you never know

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen at Survivor Series. Something's always gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, my god, it's and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be. But like this is Brett Harden Shawn Michaels,

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<v Speaker 1>where Breton Seawan also got into a much more lint

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<v Speaker 1>backstage fight. I might add, they got a brawl and

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<v Speaker 1>Brett yanked out his hair and Sean said he was

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<v Speaker 1>quitting and going to World Championship Wrestling, and he walked

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<v Speaker 1>out and he claimed an unsafe working environment, and lo

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<v Speaker 1>and behold, they ended up back together. And even though

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<v Speaker 1>they they hated each other, they were professionals and they

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<v Speaker 1>were all planning to go in there and having a

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<v Speaker 1>matches Survivor Series, which they did, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good match. And then we had the

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<v Speaker 1>famous Montreal screw job. And I don't need to go

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<v Speaker 1>into all of that, but something's happening, I believe at

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<v Speaker 1>the Survivor Series in this Becky Lynch Charlotte Flair match,

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<v Speaker 1>where I think that they're going to try to convince

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<v Speaker 1>you that they're shooting or something or some screw job

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<v Speaker 1>or some this or some that I mean, it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>and this to me, this to me, was was building

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Have you ever been in a position, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make magic with somebody that you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with and you have trouble with that. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>that's like anyway, cars, I know that's like, Mike, look,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you expect? What do you want out of them?

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<v Speaker 1>They might as well do them. They're doing exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I expected they would do exactly they probably should up

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<v Speaker 1>until we get to the Survivor series teases. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>I can draw the line. Of course they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>market this based on these two and what happened, you

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<v Speaker 1>might as well. It was a real life thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>People know. It's actually something that you know, it is

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<v Speaker 1>based in reality that people can wrap their brains around

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<v Speaker 1>and sink their teeth into. So I don't blame it

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<v Speaker 1>all for for doing this um to make teases to

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't because it's you know, look, this is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago, you know. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't It wasn't a memorable It's not a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing to remember the Survivor series. And I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>is for them, and I know it's taken on a

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<v Speaker 1>life of its own in multiple ways, but no, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to watch to see maybe somebody gets

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<v Speaker 1>screwed over, or wait for the rug to be pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out at the end of a match or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see those two have a great

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<v Speaker 1>match with each other. And I hope that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that they go. Maybe that's what they do, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they can't help themselves, but I I don't see how

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<v Speaker 1>almost any scenario doesn't end with fans eye rolling or

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. We'll see. But I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what fans want out of that. It's not what fans

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<v Speaker 1>want out of Bianca being involved in the match, not

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<v Speaker 1>what fans want out of a lot of people being

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<v Speaker 1>involved in matches. Just give me the really good match

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I guess you can tease some of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, but if it happens, you know, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the execution, I don't know, maybe it ought to be executed.

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<v Speaker 1>We have got an x T ratings six D three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand a view is down four point four percent, lowest

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<v Speaker 1>audience for the show since being rebranded eighteen and forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine point one five. It's basically the same numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>you every week. Do I need to talk about it more? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>We got full gear coming up this weekend. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a w after the break and an x T

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<v Speaker 1>two point oh as well. We have Kenny Omega Hangman

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<v Speaker 1>Page for the A E W title as your main event,

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<v Speaker 1>Ritt Baker versus Tight Countie for the women's title, Luca

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers versus f t R for the tag titles, Mirror

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<v Speaker 1>versus Brian Danielson in the Eliminator tournament, m J versus

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<v Speaker 1>Darby Ell and CM Punk versus Eddie Kingston, Adam Cole

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<v Speaker 1>and the Young Bucks versus Jurassic Express and Christian Cage,

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<v Speaker 1>Inner Circle versus the American Top Team, Cody and Pok

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<v Speaker 1>versus Andrade and Malachi Black, and the pre show has

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<v Speaker 1>Nilo Rose and Jamie Hayda versus Carter Sheen and Thunder Rosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked yesterday it was gonna be the best match

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, and uh, I think that, Like as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like what's gonna get the most stars, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be Kenny Omega verus Hangman Page, or

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Cole and the Young Bucks versus Jurassic Express in

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Cage. I'm sure that Miro and Brian Danielson is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be awesome. I'm sure that Inner Circle and American

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<v Speaker 1>Top Team. Everyone's gonna be talking about that the next

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<v Speaker 1>day because he's m M A fighters. Holy smokes, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's so much heat and it's such an easy storyline,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of people that can't work in

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<v Speaker 1>this match, and so we're gonna find out how well

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else can work. And thankfully it's a street fight

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<v Speaker 1>so you can like brawl all over the place and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that. But man Jericho was getting hammered on

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody last night. I forget the guy's name as always,

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<v Speaker 1>but as Austin vander Ford is at the other bloke anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he's throwing these these forearms and it's like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want him to kill Chris Jericho, but like he's trained

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Chris Jericho, not Chris Jericho personally, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking a guy who's who's like his his goal in

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<v Speaker 1>training is to like break the dummy when you're laying

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<v Speaker 1>in those four arms. Now he's got to go lay

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<v Speaker 1>in the forums with Jericho, not killed a guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>he goes the extreme other way and there's just air everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't bad. Like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you're missing this here. They're the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to see the match in the story. They

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<v Speaker 1>know they're not getting like a five star match. They

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<v Speaker 1>just want to see, you know, these blokes get their's

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure they're gonna get it. One bloke in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Lambert back in a moment as it were live, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to go home show for a w and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a fan of Rassling boy, if I got

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<v Speaker 1>the show for you. There was so much good wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Brian Danielson beat Rocky Romero excellent pro

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling match, used the Tequila Sunrise finish, great back in

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<v Speaker 1>force with submission attempts, armbars, etcetera excellent match. We add

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<v Speaker 1>a brawl with the Inner Circle and American Top Team

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<v Speaker 1>where the Heels laid him out and uh. The Heels

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<v Speaker 1>avowed that Chris Jericho will be pinned in the pay

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<v Speaker 1>per view by Dan Lambert and tonight they said he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna submit him and so Lambert puts him in what

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<v Speaker 1>he describes as a Boston crab from pro wrestling from

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<v Speaker 1>Florida in nineteen and the Heels took Jericho's arm and

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<v Speaker 1>made him tap. Jericho did not tap to this Boston Crab.

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<v Speaker 1>I might add they made him tap, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a great, great heat angle for the show. Tai Conti,

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder Roseanna j B, Britt Baker, Jimmie Hayter and Rebel.

0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Too much Rebel in this match, especially when you had

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Hayter on the team. It was. It was not

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<v Speaker 1>as bad get ready for people to get mad. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not as bad as the opener on n x T.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was not good, but they kept it quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy beat Anthony Bowen's very very good match. Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Bones is great, Jungle Boy is great, Snare trap finish,

0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and then Bobby Fish ran out. Bobby Fish has now

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<v Speaker 1>been sent out by Adam Cole of all people to

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<v Speaker 1>take out Jungle Boy. They will be wrestling on Rampage

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. We had Wardlow squashing Wheeler Utah. Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you love squashes, it's hard to screw them up

0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.440
<v Speaker 1>unless you're on n x T two point Oh they

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up a squash match on that show, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a squash match. And then the Hardy Family

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<v Speaker 1>office beat up Orange Cassidy. So it is uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Matt Hardy versus Orange Cassidy. Friday in a lumberjack

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<v Speaker 1>match and met originally scheduled for the pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's going to be on Rampage. Leo Russian, Dante

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<v Speaker 1>Martin beat Matt side All and Lee mori Ardi. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a very very good match. You had Dante and

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Moriarty is the young guys just doing all this

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<v Speaker 1>crazy high flying which looked awesome but not exactly polished.

0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And then Leo Rush and Matt Sideal are polished. They

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<v Speaker 1>got in there. Man, this was some good stuff here

0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and Dante hit the double springboard moonsalt pin Moriarty very

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<v Speaker 1>good match, Poking Decks Harwood probably had the best match

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. They had everything in this match. They had.

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<v Speaker 1>They had violence, physical violence. Dax's chest is bleeding everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Pack him with a top rope high angle brainbuster, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I want to see that mat

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<v Speaker 1>that movement in every POC match because someone's gonna get killed.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally at the end, POC put him in the

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<v Speaker 1>brutalizer and the moment he puts him in this hold,

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<v Speaker 1>Dax furiously submiss because you don't want to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to the match on Saturday night and then the

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<v Speaker 1>lights went out, Cash Wheeler, Malachi Black and Rode All

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<v Speaker 1>beat down Poc Cody and the Luca Brothers made the save,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have a match for the pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the main event was the Kenny Omega Hangman

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<v Speaker 1>Page contract signing. People a couple of blokes on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>or your croy boat this contract signing, Well, no, you moron.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't complain about something that they rarely do. You

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<v Speaker 1>complain when they do it every other week. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a good contract signing and it ended with the cameraman

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of This was not actually Survivor series n seven,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the bill to Survivor series when they

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<v Speaker 1>did the gimmick camera operator to open the door for

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<v Speaker 1>Helen his cell to lead to undertaking Shawn Michael's getting out,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually made sense. And uh they cameraman here ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being Don Callis and he waffles Hangman Page with

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<v Speaker 1>the camera Hangman's bleeding all over the place. Omega gets

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<v Speaker 1>his blood and signs the contract. Total old school simple

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<v Speaker 1>contracts signing. Heat angle. I thought this show was great,

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<v Speaker 1>great go home show. Yes, weird out of too One

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<v Speaker 1>last thing, Mike, what's they had a go home show

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago? I think it might have been one

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<v Speaker 1>of the early go home shows for one of their

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<v Speaker 1>early pay per views. It was like no wrestling to

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<v Speaker 1>speak of. It was any good. It was all video packages,

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<v Speaker 1>all angles, and you want to build up your pay

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<v Speaker 1>per view with video packages and that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>But it didn't feel like a Dynamite show because there

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<v Speaker 1>was no good wrestling. Well, they learned their lesson. This

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<v Speaker 1>was like a great go home show. There were angles,

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<v Speaker 1>video packages, and also this was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling Dynamites in a long long time. Just a great

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<v Speaker 1>go home show. I thought so too. And they did

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<v Speaker 1>all that without giving away a big match, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it. Yeah, you started off with

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Danielson against Rocky Romero, which for a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a big deal for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But bottom line is, there was no super shiny thing

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<v Speaker 1>on here. It was just solid segment after solid segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Was everything perfect? Absolutely not no, But I mean, look

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<v Speaker 1>how they kicked the thing off with Dason and Romero.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Ramero and the best friends, you know, officially

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<v Speaker 1>all being sucked into chaos by the decree of Kazuchka Okada.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously the best friends were Trent and Chuck were

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<v Speaker 1>over there before as members of Chaos, but you know,

0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they melded those things together and then you get this

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<v Speaker 1>great Bryan Changelson Rocky Romero atch which set the tone

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, and I think it sets the tone

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<v Speaker 1>of where we're at and wrestling right now. The Sixth Woman,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was it was way too much Rebel. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love Rebel for a lot of what she can

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<v Speaker 1>do as far as being, you know, the comic relief

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<v Speaker 1>for Britt Baker, and obviously she serves a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>purposes for that company behind the scenes, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see somebody added to that package because Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Hayter is killing herself. Jamie Hayter takes more big bumps

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think people realize until you see her

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<v Speaker 1>out there actually working. I mean, she is working super hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they need another person there that gets

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<v Speaker 1>Rebel out of the room and allows somebody else to

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<v Speaker 1>take some heat for Britt Baker and maybe can even

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<v Speaker 1>team up with Jamie Hayter, you know, on a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and be somebody else there to be a heater and

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<v Speaker 1>to to take away some of the heat from that group.

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<v Speaker 1>Jungle Boy Anthony Bones against second week in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Bones has had a really good match. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on next Caster when he comes off

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<v Speaker 1>the bench, but you know, Bones on his own, It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Dante Martin, where you know, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>other partner, and in Martin's case, his brother is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come back and you're gonna see him back together. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting to see you know where down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Bones on his own, you know, could He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a great look. He could be something. He obviously's

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<v Speaker 1>got the talk. It's about getting the experience in the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to continue to do that there. Wheeler

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<v Speaker 1>Unit takes a great ass kicking. I'm I hope he's

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<v Speaker 1>full time in a w hope to continue to use him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's great as a young guy. You saw his potential.

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<v Speaker 1>You also saw him take some mass kickings in the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks that have been very good, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Ward Low who's green, Leo Rush and

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Martin and Matt Side. Lee Moriarty I thought was fantastic.

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Lee Moriarty is one of the best underrated guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. He was a great pickup for them, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you can see why him working with Dante Martin

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<v Speaker 1>was fabulous and Mariott He's got a lot more experience

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<v Speaker 1>than a lot of those guys do on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he the Daniel Garcia is a guys like

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<v Speaker 1>that in a w It's great. And Leo Rush. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he's done retiring because we need Leo Rush every

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<v Speaker 1>week doing something. He's a great promo, he's a great presence.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to cheer for him, you want you can

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<v Speaker 1>put you in a position where you want to kill him.

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And his team with Donte Martin, I think is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's great. I think sidell with a

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<v Speaker 1>group of Mariarty and somebody else, I think that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really cool too. Maybe it's just it's Matt's brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I like that idea a lot too,

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<v Speaker 1>because the idea of the side els and Lee Moriarty

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<v Speaker 1>against two point oh and Daniel Garcia. That makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dax Harbor was one of the best. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's one of the best wrestlers in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say he is He's part of the I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue, one of the best, if not the best

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<v Speaker 1>tag team in the world. I'm really looking forward to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Luca Brothers, which and FDR. Hopefully they can

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>get things jelled together. But Dax Hardwood was amazing in

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<v Speaker 1>this Pack was amazing. These guys are Pack was amazing.

0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 1>These guys the brain busters were amazing. The Avalanche brainbuster,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dax Hardwood or that poc used and then vice

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<v Speaker 1>versa with Dax Harwood. I that match was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Dax Hardwood is so damn good. And that's not to

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<v Speaker 1>take away anything from Pack, but damn we see Dax

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<v Speaker 1>Harwood just time after time after time do the small

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<v Speaker 1>things that are just excellent, and he can make anybody

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<v Speaker 1>look good, let alone when he got a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>that type of level impact Omega and Page. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the contract sign he was perfect. I thought it's what

0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it needed to be. I thought Don Kallis is a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible human being. He is a scum of the earth.

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>He's a pimple on the ass of professional wrestling. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a huckster m Manitoba. That's just what he is.

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>But he's incredibly great at what he does. I thought him.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you mentioned, as soon as you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>cameraman walk in front of the other cameraman in the ring,

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you knew something was up. But you're thinking, hey, that

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>cameraman right there, he's got a goatee. What's going on there?

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And then you saw what happened. He lays out Hangman page.

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.679
<v Speaker 1>They split him open, bust him open with the camera.

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Ha ha, the big reveal. He pulls off the mustache,

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he pulls off the goatee, and there you go. They're

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>signing Hangman pages name in literal blood. And that was

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>certainly a visual at the end. I'm sure some people

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>jump on that and they'll say they hated that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was great. We got digs on a

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<v Speaker 1>bushy or about Coda Bushy too, Kenny Omega. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of stuff I thought accomplished last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the stuff that was not perfect was

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<v Speaker 1>still really good. And we're not even we haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>brought up some of the video packages like Eddie Kingston

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<v Speaker 1>and and Cempo and they had to pull apart in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot, which led to a great visual of

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kingston breaking away and trying to make his way

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>across the parking lot and punk. We had the m

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<v Speaker 1>j F Darby Allen promo that I thought was very good.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of great stuff in the

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<v Speaker 1>clothes to this show leading into this pay per view.

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly did not want me to talk about n

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<v Speaker 1>x T. No. I don't know too bad. I'm gonna

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>do as much as I can here. We had an

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 1>opening match with Toxic Attraction out there versus Caton Carter

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>EO tryn Casey Cannazaro. They missed every spot they tried.

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that the botched one spot after another.

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We had Kayleie Rave beating Surai. For those of you

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that had high hopes for said hopes dashed. They ain't

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>do anything. Are Joe Gacy beat Boa via d Q

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and they've given him the Fiends red light gimmick. That

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.479
<v Speaker 1>was horrible. Creed Brothers beat Jack at Time because of

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>course they did. We had Cameron Grimes beat rue f

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>ng who because he was a short Solos Acoa beat

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Grays and Waller in l A Night and uh Electra

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Lopez beat Erica John bro This is the worst squash

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>match I've ever seen. I wish I could talk more.

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<v Speaker 1>You can blame Mike for this. Everybody back with Michael

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Kingston back in the show. Brian Albarez here, Wrestling Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Simper BB also have Wrestling Observer dot Com. Very

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<v Speaker 1>happy today to be joined by Michael Kingston. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about, including Headlocks Tales from the

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<v Speaker 1>Road of Volume two, which is finishing up its final

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<v Speaker 1>day on Kickstarter here today and if you hit my

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<v Speaker 1>my Twitter at Brian Alvarez, I've got a link up

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<v Speaker 1>there for the Kickstarter and I believe you've made a

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<v Speaker 1>three fifty dollars during the show alone so far, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's rocketing past its goal of fourteen thousand, five hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>You've you've bay we doubled the goal, Michael, are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing today? Uh? Do it really well? I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>Kickstarters are an emotionally grueling exercise. So thirty days, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>days of it, I'm ready for it to be over now.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you that don't know this, uh this

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>kickstarter gimmick here. If you have like a go fund me,

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like you just get the money, right, but Kickstarter,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't reach your goal, you get no money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more kickstarters, more for creatives to fund creative projects

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody like me. And it's like a double independent

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Obviously we're not sponsored by

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel or d C. I mean, I I published these

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<v Speaker 1>out of my house. You know, this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>pre order for us. This This enables us to sell

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<v Speaker 1>enough books to be able to fund the production of it,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>because comics are expensive. To me. Now, when you say

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<v Speaker 1>you you published this out of your house, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you have you invest in a giant printing machine

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<v Speaker 1>or or is it more you know, you send the

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<v Speaker 1>files with somebody else and they they printed up here

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah. Yeah, And I work with the printer,

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<v Speaker 1>UM work with a in Nashville. That's Uh, It's been

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<v Speaker 1>very good to me the whole time. I've been really

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<v Speaker 1>lucky in a lot of instances just with people that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of believe in what we do and that have

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<v Speaker 1>helped us, you know, grow along the way. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it's been really good. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our sixth our sixth trade that we've put out. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got like forty collaborations with different wrestlers. Um, we're you know,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we keep growing, so you know, a little by a little.

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>It seems like a silly question, but I mean when

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I did Figure four weekly, you know, I I for

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<v Speaker 1>a while there was was like doing the math, like

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<v Speaker 1>should I buy like a really big copying machine here,

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>because it's very expensive to to print things up and

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I was doing black and white and maybe I wanted

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a front page was in color. But these things are

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<v Speaker 1>not cheap. So when you do a kickstarter here, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you how does it work in terms of do

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<v Speaker 1>you presume Okay, I want to print at least this

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<v Speaker 1>mini books because if I print this so many books,

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<v Speaker 1>I only have to pay this amount per book, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a smaller number your print your your costs

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<v Speaker 1>are significantly higher. How do you do the math to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what the goal is and how many you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to print? I mean you really, really, there's really

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<v Speaker 1>no way of knowing because you don't know what people

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>are gonna back for. I mean, you want to keep it.

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I try to keep it tight. Just spatial concerns in

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>my house and you know, overhead. Um, so I'm lucky now,

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, back in the day, you just have

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to print thousands and thousands of copies of stuff. But

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>now with like short run printers, there's affordable ways to

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<v Speaker 1>print things in lower print runs so you don't necessarily

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>have to print ten thousand of something. Um. And I've

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>done I've I've done big runs where you know, we've

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>printed um, you know, and the have to use an

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>offset printer, which is a different animal. But you know

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times we just use a digital printer

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>which is able to you know, turn things around a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit quicker. Um. I mean, I couldn't imagine ever

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to to be more involved in the per auction

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, just because I mean, I've got two more.

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I have two titles right now. We have Headlocked and

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>then we have Tails from the Road, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get two more off the ground. I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a movie, um that we're trying to get made. So

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>it's actually not about wrestling. It's a horror movie. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know what I mean, Like I have

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<v Speaker 1>no time as it is, like I don't have another minute.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm literally writing a script for for next month's

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Tails from the Road, and I'm literally doing it at

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<v Speaker 1>a page a day, Like I'm getting a page to

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the artist so he can stay moving. Like. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>exhausting sort of it is to do all of this

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and work full time. Beat the kick started. I do

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have to jump in very quickly your your horror movie.

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if this gets funded and ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, will you be hiring wrestlers because it seems

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of their forte Um, yeah, I

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>mean you never know. I think we're gonna try to

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>make it a comic book first. Um, there's definitely scenes

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>set for wrestlers. Um. So it's set at a it's

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>set at a convention. Um So there's definitely there's parts

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>written for wrestlers. Um. But it's it's actually a little

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>more cosplay oriented, so you know, having a foot both

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in sort of wrestling and comics. The you know, this

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>is sort of indulging the comic side more. Everything's got

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a little of both influences. But this is a little

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>more comics heavy than uh than wrestling heavy. So, you know,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it's so much to talk about, especially when it comes

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to the books themselves. But I guess my first question

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is if somebody were to go to the kickstarter, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see what your goal was and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see what was pledged and go, well, this, this

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>guy doesn't need my help. They've already reached their goal.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you kind of explain why people are, you know,

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>what what they can get out of this when they

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<v Speaker 1>do contribute, and why should people continue to contribute right

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>now even though you have reached your goal? And where

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>does that go? Does it go to other projects? Um?

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So yes, So there's a couple of different things. Obviously,

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>when you exceed your goal, then you have to produce

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>more things. So, like you know, my goal is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of set with the overhead of fourteen dollars worth of books,

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So now you know, I have to produce more books.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>So like you're you're printing costs go up. Um, you know,

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>thankfully my art costs don't go up. But one of

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the things that we've done for this campaign actually is

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>so we uh, we have three covers and one of

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the covers that we did for the for the campaign

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>was a a Dan Housing cover that was sort of

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>inspired by the first Creep Show movie poster and that

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be an an exclusive for the campaign.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I've known Dan Housing forever since,

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know pre makeup Dan Housing, um, and uh

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it means a good friend of mine and you know

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>he got hurt in on Halloween and Tennessee. So now

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing, we're over our goals. I'm donating like

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>anything we get anybody who backs for the Dan Housing cover,

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, every copy of that, the proceeds, the entire

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>amount of profit for those covers are going to go

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>directly to him and his uh his medical and recovery fund,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>which is a little unusual for this particular campaign, but

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that's uh, that's something that we're doing. The covers awesome

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's only going to exist as part of this campaign,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be collectible, you know. I mean there's

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>only gonna be you know, some of them out there,

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, not a ton of them. And then uh,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we're you know, doing a good thing

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for a friend of the ship, for a friend of

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the book. He's actually got a story in the book

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>as well. So it's at all kind of worked out

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that we were able to help out our friend, um,

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you needed it. But also, yeah, I've

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>got other projects I'm working on. Like everything with Headlocked

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>is just you know, Hey, it's this thing funds the

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>next thing. Like I don't take any money out of

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>any of this, because I mean, I still work a

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>full time job. Like my you know, my lights stay on.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to worry about that. I mean, at

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>some point I'd like to make that transition, but right now,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>there's just too much, too many things I want to do,

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>too many things I want to make, And then you know,

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>conventions are so much more expensive, and I do try

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to make sure, like one of the other sort of

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>aims that I have is making sure that convention, you know,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>we have a good convention space and that wrestling is

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>well represented at comic cons because it's not. It isn't always.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we we we get nice convention booths

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and bring wrestlers to the show so people, you know,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>so wrestling fans canna have a good experience. We've got

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our fingers and a lot of pies.

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess before we go, I just gotta get this

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<v Speaker 1>in because we've been talking now for like fifteen minutes

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't even told people what this book is.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>So Tales from the Road, Volume two, what is it?

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Tell everybody about it? So you know, tell Us from

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the Road is a series of short stories that I

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>co create with a bunch of different wrestlers. Um. And

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>they can be in any type of genre, and they're

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>all in theory fictional, although some are inspired by true

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>life events. Um. Yeah, but we don't get into trademarks

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But this particular book has twelve stories. Um.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we did a story with Mac Cardona and

0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Brian Myers, thunder Rosa, Crime Time, Dan Housing, Frankie Kazarian,

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Danny Limelight, John Morrison, Pentagon, AJ Styles, Jeff Cobb, Effie

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and Rob Van Dam. Um. So they're all they're all

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>different types of stories, they're all different genres. Um, but

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they're all real fun. And uh, I think I think

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>people that like wrestling and like comics will will really

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like what we do. Bro. This book is the legit

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>forbidden door. I mean how for sure? I mean I've

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>tried to and I think you know many people have

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>tried to deal with the w w E before and uh,

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>how did you how did you swing this? I've been

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>really lucky. I mean some of these stories were produced

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>before people were under contracts. Um, some of them are

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been I don't know. Sometimes I think,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Jerry Lawler does all the covers to

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>my books, I feel like, to a certain extent, people

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>leave me alone. But also like I think that I

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm small enough to stay off of

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>people's radars. I'm not really competing with anything, you know

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>what mean, I'm not selling T shirts, I'm not selling

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>anything that w W is selling. We try not to

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>get walking into people's trademarks and stuff or likenesses. So

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I think in a lot of ways it just sort

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of dodge everybody's noticed, like in terms of the copyright,

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 1>trademark type people. But I mean there's there's a whole

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I could write a whole book on how all these

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>things come together. So I mean, for instance, the Crime

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Time story was probably the last thing that you know

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that Chadd died creatively before he passed away. Um, he

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>was an O G supporter of my books since the

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>very beginning, and I got the edits for that story

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 1>three days before he died. Um, And like, I love

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that dude. He was the one of the best dudes ever.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just in like wrestling, but just like in life,

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like just a great, great dude, and h I was

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>really glad that we got to to put something together. Um.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean so the sort of the behind

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the scenes stuff can be a little crazy. I presume

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you read J. T. Cheese book. Yes, that was a

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>great book, Like nobody ever talks about it, but that

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was a really good book. Those guys were. I mean,

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I've done a ton of shows with them, and there's

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>so much fun to be around. And I mean, I

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know they I don't I don't think they really

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>got their their sort of full potentially reach their full

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>potential in the in wrestling, and they were they they

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>were starting to start of pick up on the Indians

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and do some fun stuff. I know

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>they've done some fun things for you know, what was

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be like the Great Sweatpants Battle Royal and

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<v Speaker 1>they just uh, they were They were real good dudes, man.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, obviously it's like a parent, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you can choose between your children. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you look back at some of these covers and

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<v Speaker 1>people can see them when they go to the Kickstarter page,

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<v Speaker 1>there are memory use for me, whether it be the

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<v Speaker 1>Reservoir Dogs take Off, whether it be the the Battle

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<v Speaker 1>for the p w I Cup from the u WF

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<v Speaker 1>way back in the day. The New Yorker styles of

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<v Speaker 1>the covers. Are there any that have been better received

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<v Speaker 1>than others or that you've loved more than others? What

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<v Speaker 1>has that been like? Because I you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at them, they're they're just so fantastic. So are

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<v Speaker 1>there any that you like more than others or or

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<v Speaker 1>how does that work? I mean I love them all, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>but like my faviously, my favorite, I think my all

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<v Speaker 1>time favorite cover and thus far is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>we did for part two of the Last Territory. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's Jerry's cover that he did. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an homage to the Saturday Evening Post cover.

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<v Speaker 1>We're little kids at the chested drawers and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the Santa suit. He realizes that his dad is Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got that shocked look on his face. We sort

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<v Speaker 1>of adapted that to where the kids found like a

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<v Speaker 1>lucha mask and some boots. Um and uh, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's funny because you know Jerry, Jerry

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>loves Norman Rockwell and he loves art Um, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>weird to have like a different relationship with people than

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. You know, everybody just kind of knows Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>for everything that he's done in wrestling with me, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a big art nerd um and uh he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he loves Christmas too, so like, you know,

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>he was super you know, you can tell he was

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<v Speaker 1>super inspired to put this thing together and like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with it like the minute I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, So I mean that's definitely you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely one. And um, there's a ton of home that

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<v Speaker 1>are probably you know one a you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>about a minute here, but you are one thousand, four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty three dollars away from doubling your goal.

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<v Speaker 1>And how does this compare to you previous kickstarters we've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the twenties. I think the last Tales from

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the Word were a little bit above where we were

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<v Speaker 1>from Tales from the Road Volume one, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>we want. You just want to grow And honestly, look,

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the money isn't really what I'm really super concerned with.

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't need people to show up and drop

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, drop a bunch of money on it.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I just want people to want to read it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like this thing is a labor

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<v Speaker 1>of love. It's taking me ten years to get here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's you know, kill myself to make these books.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>And all the wrestlers that are a part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, they're excited about wrestling, comics and stuff.

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely a project made out of fashion. I want

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<v Speaker 1>that thought real quick. We'll talk a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>after the break stick around everybody Observer Live. We'll be again.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the tweets and the cool cool morning turn the

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<v Speaker 1>days of swam s living ride is easy. I get

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Bran Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live like

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>simper v V. Also of Wrestling Observer dot Com Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston as well his Kickstarter Headlocked to Tails from the

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<v Speaker 1>Road of Volume two. I presume if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter and type in headlock you'll find you can also

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>go to my twitter at Brian Alvarez. I've retweeted it

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<v Speaker 1>link up their final day. The projects ends funding at

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 1>five Pacific eight eastern today, So don't sit there and

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>go out throwing some money tomorrow. Today it's the last

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>day and Michael's get some some plugs in for the

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<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter and anything else you've got out there. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our social media is Headlocked Comic dot com. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all me, if you know, that's who you're dealing with,

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're on there, and uh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>got till eight o'clock with the Kickstarter, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's a cool book to Dan Housing

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<v Speaker 1>cover you can't get any other time other than through

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>this campaign. It won't be available after that. So you know,

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to help somebody out, get yourself a

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<v Speaker 1>collectible and get a cool comic book all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's a good it's a good choice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can check it out on kickstarter dot com. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>Headlocked Tails from the Road featuring Cardona and Myers, thunder Rosa,

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Time, Dan Housing, Kazarian, Limelight, Morrison, Pentis, Die Else,

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<v Speaker 1>cob Fie and r v D. Check it out and Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for doing the show today, and we

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<v Speaker 1>need to do this again sometime. Absolutely, man, thanks for

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>having me. I really appreciate and of course thanks everybody

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>for listening. Mike has always callers to the studios are

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<v Speaker 1>Twitch homies. We'll talk to again later tonight running video

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