WEBVTT - Envy Doesn’t Make You a Bad Person | MINISODE

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<v Speaker 2>What if envy isn't the flaw? What if it's literally

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<v Speaker 2>pointing you toward the life you secretly want?

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<v Speaker 3>Your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Okay, that's a that's a deep question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so. I mean when I hear that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, we've been taught to judge ourselves like, way, way,

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<v Speaker 1>way too quickly when it comes to envy, right like,

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<v Speaker 1>the moment we acknowledge the feeling, the next thing that

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind is all shit, I'm over here being

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<v Speaker 1>a hater. Really, what if envy is information? What if

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<v Speaker 1>envy is actually trying to tell us something?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and lady, you know where the queens are sitting

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<v Speaker 2>with the discomfort, So let's just sit with it, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we've all experienced envy at some point in life. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>You're scrolling. Usually it's a scrolling right scrolling. You see

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<v Speaker 2>someone's getting engaged. You're like, damn, I want my person

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<v Speaker 2>to propose to me, or I'm trying to get married too.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a friend they just posted them new keys,

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<v Speaker 2>they just bought a condo or bought a house. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>text you in the group chat, oh, I'm launching my

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<v Speaker 2>new business. You see somebody and lost the weight, or

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<v Speaker 2>you think they want to go get the BBL because

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<v Speaker 2>their body is listen that ways to snatch the booty's

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<v Speaker 2>looking booty sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, titty sitting up. Okay, they're looking good. Bodies fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you see that one friend who's traveling, and

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<v Speaker 2>you might say, damn, where's mine at?

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<v Speaker 3>When is mine coming?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that with that?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about it. Do you think people confuse

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<v Speaker 2>envy with being a bad person, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes in society we're just kind of discouraged from feeling

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable emotions that are very real and that are a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the human experience.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Yeah, I mean you nailed it right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we are socialized to find ways to negate, avoid

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<v Speaker 1>suppress us certain emotions and if we're feeling envy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an Any emotion that we feel is a normal,

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<v Speaker 1>valid emotion. We are human, We are supposed to have feelings, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have experiencing envy does not make us a bad person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we've been socialized to think that if

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<v Speaker 1>we experience envy, something is wrong with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree, and I know we did in

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<v Speaker 2>the previous episode where we dove in deep on jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>and envy as the lady. Just in case you missed that,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it was just like, wait, I beg seeing

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<v Speaker 2>en be confused. Envy is wanting what someone else has,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas jealousy is the fear of losing something you already

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<v Speaker 2>possess to someone else. Right, So like, damn, I'm envious

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<v Speaker 2>she got a bomb ad. I'm just using body because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everybody talking bodies these days.

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<v Speaker 3>She has a bottom ass body. Oh, I'm envious to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or jealousy would be like, man, I got this mean and.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a wandered eye and them girls at his

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<v Speaker 2>DM and I don't know, I fear like I might

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<v Speaker 2>somebody might try to take them, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>With a little example and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm jealous of this, I'm jealous of his

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jealous of his friendship with this particular woman because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel threatened that this woman is better than me

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<v Speaker 1>in some way and she's gonna take my shee end

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<v Speaker 1>up he's gonna end up moving towards her and away

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<v Speaker 1>from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again, these are human emotions. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes people try to deny them, like, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way, but it's natural, right, We're human, and

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<v Speaker 2>envy it may be the issue, But I think shame

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<v Speaker 2>is the really it's the big thing here, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>envy is like the information. It reveals the desire, the values,

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<v Speaker 2>the dreams, the unmet needs. And so instead of asking

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<v Speaker 2>like why am I envious or jealous, it might be

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<v Speaker 2>what is this emotion trying to show me? That's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we should start there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, because I think the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>we want to recognize that there are different kinds of envy,

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<v Speaker 1>different reasons that we're envious. There's healthy envy, toxic envy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this comparison game and it there's coming from a

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<v Speaker 1>scarcity mindset, and then there's the impact of social media, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so So I think part of it is making

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<v Speaker 1>space for understanding the impact of all of those things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like understanding the impact of social media, and how we

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<v Speaker 1>may depending on how much time we engage with social media,

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<v Speaker 1>we may find ourselves in a constant comparison game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we may find ourselves in a space if

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<v Speaker 1>we're already in a scarcity mindset of like, well there's

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<v Speaker 1>only so much, only so many women can can have

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<v Speaker 1>that particular body then and that's not me. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm envious of all the women who do have it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not gonna be able to attain it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm as a psychologist, how do we how do

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<v Speaker 2>we stop judging emotions and start just listening to them?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think part of it is is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of our emotions are information, Right, So before

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<v Speaker 1>we try to judge it, let's name it and sit

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<v Speaker 1>with that, right, literally, just sit with that, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling anxious, I'm feeling disappointment, I'm feeling envious. Right, Labeling it,

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<v Speaker 1>actually putting a name to it kind of reduces the

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<v Speaker 1>impact the intensity of it, right, And so instead of saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I envious? Or I shouldn't be envious? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I find myself envying people all the time? Step

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<v Speaker 1>back and say what is this emotion in response to

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<v Speaker 1>Because our emotions are never random. Our emotions are signals

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<v Speaker 1>towards something that we're needing, to memories, to creating some meaning.

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<v Speaker 1>So again it goes back to that point that emotions

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<v Speaker 1>are information, and so stepping back and looking at what

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<v Speaker 1>is the information that envy is trying to show us

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I in preparation for this episode, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, I'm like, am I jealous? Well, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not jealous. I don't think I've been jealous in quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say envy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting with envy because I was like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of things I desire and want, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't say that in this phase in life

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<v Speaker 2>just because and again, lady, I've been there. I've been jealous,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been envious, all that, I've been hating ass all

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<v Speaker 2>that right.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point in my journey.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say that I'm pretty evolved now, very

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<v Speaker 2>self aware, very grounded, and there are still things that

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<v Speaker 2>I want. And so I was really trying to challenge myself,

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<v Speaker 2>like what do I want these days? And although I

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<v Speaker 2>don't find myself sitting throughout the day having consistent thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>of envy in this season of my life, there are

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<v Speaker 2>two areas that came up that I want to share.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel very vulnerable, but I want to share them

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<v Speaker 2>with you down because I want to just sit with

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<v Speaker 2>it very realistically, because the lady, it's easy for us

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<v Speaker 2>to say, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Do this and do that when you feel envy, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not always that easy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was thinking domb about people who have

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<v Speaker 2>very supportive like family units, specifically like parents who are

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<v Speaker 2>very active in the life and who can help, who

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<v Speaker 2>are like right there who can help, and like they

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<v Speaker 2>just have a very good dynamic, and like me being

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<v Speaker 2>estranged for my mom, I have multiple dads, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have good relationships with my dads, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little different. I'm thinking about like a very I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about the.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it stereotypical kind of family you and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about parents when you could be like yo,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get ten ten rex, you know, like helping,

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<v Speaker 2>helping in a substantial way. I'm thinking about that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, ooh, that's something I don't necessarily have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think about it all day, like, oh I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I had this, you know, but maybe that's shoe lady, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was thinking about how I cope with

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<v Speaker 2>the things that I desire that I don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>other people do have. I was thinking about that, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell about the next week. You can probably

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<v Speaker 2>relate to that. You're ready for this, okay, girl, I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, now, let me just preface this by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we are very independent women. Okay, we were raised to

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<v Speaker 2>be independent women, and we've always you know, we got

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<v Speaker 2>it out the mud, worked hard, all that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, being a kept woman.

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<v Speaker 2>The older I get that shit real appealing, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind listen, I wouldn't mind just doing my pursuing

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<v Speaker 2>my passion and my man just.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a kept woman. I wouldn't mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a high value woman, as they say.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, there are some women that's the

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<v Speaker 2>reality they have that. And I was like, okay, let

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<v Speaker 2>me sit with this. How does it feel to like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, for you, domins or anything, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't. I don't know if I have active

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<v Speaker 2>envy though. That's the thing, Like I do want these things,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's not like someone in mind because I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sit with that doesn't serve me

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<v Speaker 2>to have the feelings like yes, And so when I

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<v Speaker 2>see people who have that, like, I'm genuinely happy for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a narrative that I tell myself that

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<v Speaker 2>I can go into after you share, like on how

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<v Speaker 2>I cope with not having it, but I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to see like what would you add or what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about any of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, the space that I'm at in

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<v Speaker 1>life is if envy pops up, it doesn't last long.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very fleeing for me. Yeah, right, because I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a space in life where there's the recognition that my

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<v Speaker 1>journey is meant to be my journey. There's the acceptance

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<v Speaker 1>and the embracing of my journey is meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>my journey, right, Yeah, and the recognition that it's meant

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<v Speaker 1>for me will never miss me. M And so when

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<v Speaker 1>I have that initial moment of envy, when I see

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<v Speaker 1>someone that has something that I'm that I'm currently desiring, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my immediate thought. My immediate thought really is about the

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<v Speaker 1>or experience. Is the envy, Yeah, that is truly very fleeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Because then my next thought usually is how did they

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<v Speaker 1>what did they do to achieve it? M hm? And

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<v Speaker 1>is that something that needs to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>my journey?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And so, and that's where I'm at in life currently.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't always in that space right but for me

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<v Speaker 1>right now, envy is a very it's a very fleeting

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<v Speaker 1>emotion that I experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you sharing that, and lady like, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you are there now, don't think we're trying to bypass.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Dom said, we both have experienced this before. And

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you mentioned the fleeting aspect of it

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<v Speaker 2>because that is true, like when you see when I

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<v Speaker 2>see certain things, it's like, oh dang, that must be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But just because of like where I'm going it, I've

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<v Speaker 2>sat with jealousy and envy before and shit, it's just heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>It weighs me down. It doesn't help me get to

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I've really tried my best to have genuine appreciation,

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<v Speaker 2>love and excitement for other people when they get things,

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<v Speaker 2>even if I want that and so instead of saying

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<v Speaker 2>things like oh, I wish it wasn't them, which I

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<v Speaker 2>usually it was always like I wish it was me

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<v Speaker 2>versus it being more about the other person. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you have those thoughts holding space for that, it's more like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's possible for them, it's possible for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>then going back to what you said down, I'm like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>based on what they had to, you know, possibly do

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<v Speaker 2>to get that, is that something I want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it something part of my journey?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I have also seen people sometimes say things like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, you don't know what they did to get it,

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<v Speaker 2>in like more of a negative way where it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he's kept. Yeah she's a kept woman, but

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<v Speaker 2>he might be cheating and he might be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people really have genuinely good lives and there ain't

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<v Speaker 2>no bullshit like someone can be kept and they have

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<v Speaker 2>a great life and that's that, and that's that's great

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<v Speaker 2>for them, right, And so we just want to share Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, and for that specific instance,

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<v Speaker 1>there may be certain they're not. Maybe there usually are

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<v Speaker 1>strings attached, and the strings that are attached match their values,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that is good for them, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>key that makes it a great situation for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the thing, is that, like when when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at someone who has something or is doing

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<v Speaker 1>something that I want, it's it is also the question

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<v Speaker 1>of does that is how they got that and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're experiencing? Not only is it is it meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of my journey at some point? But also

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<v Speaker 1>does this truly align with my values? Now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing it in action? Does it actually align with my values?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there are lots of things that we can see

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<v Speaker 1>or that we want, that we desire, and until we

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<v Speaker 1>see it in action, we have certain preconceived notions of

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<v Speaker 1>what it's going to be like, right, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>see it in action with someone else, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>gives space for you to ask, like, Okay, based on

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm I'm observing it in real time, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my experience is not going to be the same as theirs,

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<v Speaker 1>But based on what I'm seeing, does this still align

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<v Speaker 1>with what I want? Is this true? Is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that should be a part of my journey exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>That is so key and Lady, that's a great transition

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<v Speaker 2>into some of the practical framework we want to share. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you do experience v asking yourself what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>am I envious of? Be specific because maybe once you

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<v Speaker 2>see that inside that down was sharing, maybe you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't really want that thing. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>actually wanting this other thing that I thought would get

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<v Speaker 2>me there, right, So getting clear on that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>is it what I actually want or is it what

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm supposed to want?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh ooh, okay, yeah as a society to say I need this?

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<v Speaker 3>Did my family school whoever?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>The next one is what does this reveal about my values?

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<v Speaker 2>What does it reveal about your values and your vision?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are you hoping this does for you? And

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<v Speaker 2>then finally, what's one tiny action I can take toward

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<v Speaker 2>my own version? Because, like Don was saying, what's for

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<v Speaker 2>you will never miss you? And a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 2>in hindsight, the thing that we thought we wanted, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh my gosh, thank you God, and get

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<v Speaker 2>that thing that I thought I wanted because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for me. There was something else for me that served

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<v Speaker 2>where I was in the season of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And one final thought, maybe just maybe your envy of

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<v Speaker 1>someone else isn't telling you that someone else has too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a reminder for you that you've been settling

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<v Speaker 1>for too little.

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