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Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and

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Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Tuesday, February twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am

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Speaker 1: co editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm

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Speaker 1: in LA He's in New York, and Variety has reporters

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Speaker 1: around the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Variety's Michael Schneider, who takes the microphone

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Speaker 1: for an interview with Bill Lawrence. Lawrence is one of

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Speaker 1: the busiest showrunners in town, between Ted Lasso shrinking HBO's

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Speaker 1: upcoming Rooster and the revival of Scrubs that lands on

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Speaker 1: ABC and Hulu later this week. But before we get

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Speaker 1: to that, here are a few headlines just in this

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Speaker 1: morning that you need to know. Warner Brothers Discovery is

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Speaker 1: taking it all in. The studio said this morning that

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Speaker 1: it has received a new offer from Paramount's Guidance. We're

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Speaker 1: still not sure what the new price is. Warner Brothers

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Speaker 1: is still formally recommending to shareholders that it support the

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Speaker 1: Netflix deal, which is in force despite this break for

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Speaker 1: renewed Paramount negotiations. We'll keep watch to see what all

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Speaker 1: sides of this M and A triangle do next. Showrunners

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Speaker 1: love to be novelists. Mara Braka Kiel will publish her

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Speaker 1: first novel in June from Crown's Storehouse Voices Imprint. The

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Speaker 1: title is The Revelations of Dion. Daphne Taylor. Sheridan has

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Speaker 1: set a deal with Simon and Schuster to deliver How

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Speaker 1: Not To Die in Prison the same month. Here are

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Speaker 1: some interesting facts that came out of Nielsen's fall multi

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Speaker 1: platform ratings report, as digested by Michael Schneider from September

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Speaker 1: fourteenth to January fourth, It was no contest for the

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Speaker 1: title of most watch program. Stranger Things, the final season

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Speaker 1: of the Netflix series, dominated the fall with an average

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Speaker 1: of thirty two points eighty six million viewers. That was

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Speaker 1: followed in a distant second place by Netflix's docuseriies Sean

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Speaker 1: Paramount Plus's Landman weighed in at number three with nineteen

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Speaker 1: point six four million viewers. CBS's Justin Hartley drama Tracker

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Speaker 1: followed closely by ABC's High Potential with sixteen point oh

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Speaker 1: seven million. It's always good to know the numbers and

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Speaker 1: know what people are really watching. All of these stories

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Speaker 1: and so much more can be found on Variety dot

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Speaker 1: com right now and now it's time for conversations with

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Speaker 1: Variety journalists about news and trends and show business. I'm

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Speaker 1: turning the microphone over this time to Variety TV editor

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Speaker 1: Michael Schneider. He spent some quality time with showrunner Bill Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence talks about Scrubs, the show that really put him

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Speaker 1: over the top as a series creator and showrunner. It's

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Speaker 1: back with fresh episodes on ABC and Hulu starting Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence calls it season nine of the show that ran

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Speaker 1: and its final two years on ABC.

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Speaker 2: Then, thanks, Cynthia. Indeed, I am talking to the very

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Speaker 2: very busy Bill Lawrence. Bill, I've been covering you for

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Speaker 2: thirty years now.

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Speaker 3: Michael dog Basement, don'll make us sound old.

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Speaker 2: You look good by the way you still have that

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Speaker 2: boyish look. I don't know what your your regimen is,

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Speaker 3: Doing no regimen. I just tried too hard. I'm very bangsy,

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Speaker 3: and we're baseball hats a lot. It helps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you still have that that youthful energy. And

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Speaker 2: again I feel like you are the busiest that I've

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you know, it's funny, I think

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Speaker 4: I'm the busiest you've ever seen me, that I actually

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Speaker 4: have shows on TV. I was always even when I

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Speaker 4: and I was always still grinding. Is that a healthy

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Speaker 2: So I guess like to rephrase that, then the most

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Speaker 4: Sure, I'll take you, by the way that the most

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not marginal at all.

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Speaker 2: So, so as I'm talking to you, you're down in

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Speaker 2: the keys, You're you're finishing up season two Bad Monkey.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you're looking a little pink in the face.

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Speaker 1: Night.

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Speaker 3: It's some bright sun and some late nights, but it's

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Speaker 2: And of course Shrinking is on your television right now.

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Speaker 2: fantastic season. It's so great to see you reunited with

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Speaker 2: Michael J. Fox of course, which clear highlight. Man, I

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Speaker 4: I can't believe him. He made the mistake I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's like he saw him. He's like, You're doing a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't mean to age us. But what

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Speaker 4: You know it's I tried to hide from it because

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Speaker 4: the production designer Shrinking is the exact same and and

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Speaker 4: the new Steve Currell show Rooster is the production designer

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Speaker 4: from Spence City. Yeah, his name's Cabot, It's spin City too.

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Speaker 4: There's so many people I've been working with now for

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons I'm able to do a lot

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Speaker 4: of things. I get to take credit for other people's hard.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you do almost have your own repertory company,

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Speaker 4: It's really interesting because I think too often people think

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Speaker 3: The truth is one of the cool there's party of

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Speaker 4: I call and you know that, But one of the

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Speaker 4: And I'm always confused. Why people don't I had so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and see, well we'll have to talk soon about

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Speaker 4: If you enjoyed spending time with and working with people

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Speaker 4: I just knew that we were all so close and

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Speaker 4: we had reached points in our lives that we weren't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's very much like seeing old friends.

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Speaker 2: And to some degree we've had a chance to see

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Speaker 4: Been kind enough to let me kind of, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I just think the value of seeing that Donald

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Speaker 3: Man. That's just a kind of a storytelling arena. It

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Speaker 2: No, you know, not to give too much away, but

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Speaker 2: What's for the canon? For the folks who care about canon.

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Speaker 3: So it's always been interested in the narrative of this show.

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Speaker 3: The ninth season of Scrubs was supposed to be Scrubs.

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Speaker 4: It was called Scrubs Med and it was supposed to

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Speaker 3: I don't regret it at all. And I think a lot.

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Speaker 4: For World Man, they're in the same world where Neil

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Speaker 3: They're also good.

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Speaker 4: About that, And no, it's a weird position to be

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm super proud of my involvement in that show I have.

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Speaker 4: The only thing that bummed me out is they stole

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Speaker 2: Very cool. Well, I mean it's it's a busy time

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Speaker 4: Probably yeah, probably, I would say late September, early October.

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Speaker 3: You never know, but it's it's a blast. Man shooting the.

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Speaker 3: Always, Man, it's fun to talk TV with you. Yr's

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