Speaker 1: So I was thinking this morning about where we kind
Speaker 1: of went wrong societally one second, and where we where
Speaker 1: we diverged from the kind of righteous path and got
Speaker 1: to this place we are in where it is this puritanical,
Speaker 1: sort of shame based culture. And there's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: handmaid Tale. It's essentially handmaid Tale. It's like I mean,
Speaker 1: if you extend it, you know, to its logical conclusion,
Speaker 1: and how do we fight back? And Michael, I'd like
Speaker 1: you to participate because I do think that I can.
Speaker 2: Actually it's important topic.
Speaker 3: Well, I can pinpoint them. Do you watch this?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't own a television. I don't watch television.
Speaker 3: But have you been to at a lot of times
Speaker 3: they have in restaurants?
Speaker 2: Now, I've read the Margaret Atwood novel.
Speaker 4: Ah, Yeah, have you seen that?
Speaker 3: Have you seen have you seen this? The novel cover?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to book.
Speaker 4: I've seen every word, see every word.
Speaker 3: There's not a word in it. He hasn't seen I've
Speaker 3: seen some of the names. I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I loved it. I loved it. I haven't
Speaker 2: read it, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's so important and I and I and
Speaker 1: it's a warning.
Speaker 3: And as I look at our own and obviously the
Speaker 3: artists reflecting.
Speaker 1: Life, as I look at our own journey societally, what
Speaker 1: I'm realizing is we have an opportunity to push back.
Speaker 1: And I think that at midnight tonight, all of us
Speaker 1: and anybody else we can get in on this. We
Speaker 1: need to post I don't have an account on this
Speaker 1: thing anymore, but we need to.
Speaker 3: Post on x formerly.
Speaker 1: Twitter two words sex gifts in solidarity with the actor
Speaker 1: Dean Norris who put Hank straighter on Breaking Bad, who
Speaker 1: I suppose accidentally tweeted this one day. Maybe he meant
Speaker 1: to type it into a search bar and everyone shamed.
Speaker 4: That was the and they clowned on him and they
Speaker 4: laughed at him. That was the inflection point.
Speaker 3: That was the inflaction point, where from that point.
Speaker 1: Forward it's it's all, oh, well, how do we put
Speaker 1: that toothpaste back in the tube where you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to try to search for sex gifts and accidentally post
Speaker 1: it publicly and never take it down.
Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying. And instead of when someone's
Speaker 4: in the pit, instead of pointing and saying that guy's
Speaker 4: in the pit, isn't he from breaking bad. You and
Speaker 4: under the dome and you get under the dome with him,
Speaker 4: get under the dome, And that's Breen. That's what Breen says.
Speaker 4: Do you see that on this podcast?
Speaker 2: I thought this will be a fun uh industry podcast,
Speaker 2: will joke around. I didn't realize it was going to
Speaker 2: get this deep this quick.
Speaker 4: We didn't either. It worked like this. This is the
Speaker 4: world we live in, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 4: don't plan this, Mike. What we gotta do is we
Speaker 4: love to go back to laughing and chopping it up,
Speaker 4: but like this, like the world won't let us these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so important that we you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of people, a lot of people's attention is focused on
Speaker 2: what's going on in like Washington, d C. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: not enough people I feel like are paying attention to
Speaker 2: what's going on in de Nors's service part that part
Speaker 2: and it's timeline and does it raise uncomfortable questions? Is
Speaker 2: that why people are maybe avoiding it? Yeah? Us, but
Speaker 2: but but if we don't confront those questions, we don't
Speaker 2: make progress, We don't move forward.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to look at it at first, Mike,
Speaker 1: because I see myself That's why I didn't want to
Speaker 1: look at it, because I seen.
Speaker 4: I was looking right back on the gifts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see myself in the gifts, Richie.
Speaker 4: Are you okay?
Speaker 3: So Richie, So, just so you know, because you're not
Speaker 3: in the room with us.
Speaker 4: So Richie just sustained. Uh, he was a grievous head injury.
Speaker 3: He was trying to crawl under the monitor that we're
Speaker 3: looking at you on and he he stood up too
Speaker 3: early and he really broadsided this thing with his with
Speaker 3: his shoulder blade and it looked really painful.
Speaker 1: And so and I think he's gonna adjust the camera
Speaker 1: a little bit. And now we're back in.
Speaker 4: You get on camera, Richie. So, So, Michael, can you
Speaker 4: want to say hi? Just so he knows that you're
Speaker 4: healthy and you're fine, Okay, Michael. Michael is an end
Speaker 4: path and so that actually really hurt him.
Speaker 2: Chie.
Speaker 3: So he's gonna put his headphones out, Richie, Michael, I'm
Speaker 3: back on.
Speaker 4: He said, Will you do me a favor?
Speaker 3: Respond the answers, yes, Richie, yes.
Speaker 2: My own peace of mind. Will you go through the
Speaker 2: NFL concussion protocols?
Speaker 1: I'd be a lot more comfortable, Richie. Ok So we
Speaker 1: got a blue tent over there. This isn't because we don't.
Speaker 4: Need to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would. I would get I would get
Speaker 2: one of the team doctors out here, too sweet, and
Speaker 2: get some gatorade. If we're doing the NFL protocols, let's
Speaker 2: get some gatorade again. I think the blue tent is
Speaker 2: a great idea. Did you get you did you consult?
Speaker 3: Did you consult on those protocols?
Speaker 4: Michael?
Speaker 1: I know it's a passionate years. You are a bit
Speaker 1: of an.
Speaker 2: As you know. I went to ring during my time
Speaker 2: in the NFL. And when here's the thing, here's the
Speaker 2: thing that people who aren't professional football players.
Speaker 4: What do they get wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do they get wrong?
Speaker 1: When you suit up for an NFL coadators are gladiators.
Speaker 2: We they're they're gladiators in the back of our heads
Speaker 2: when we say we're going to leave it all out
Speaker 2: on the field. That's not that's not hyperbole.
Speaker 3: It's not a phrase that that might mean you're live.
Speaker 2: That's right, and definitely and talk when we talk. That's
Speaker 2: also another I.
Speaker 4: Don't think he did freeze. I think he's processing.
Speaker 1: That and I think what might be happening is he's
Speaker 1: choosing his words extremely carefully, which we always encourage.
Speaker 2: We do talk, and but when we go out there,
Speaker 2: we know that we might not come back. Once we
Speaker 2: leave the game, okay, once once guys are beat up
Speaker 2: and battered and retired where they get cut, then you
Speaker 2: start thinking about, oh geez, what was I doing to
Speaker 2: my body? And then as an X player, although you're
Speaker 2: never really out of the game, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Once you're in, you're in. Once you're an ex player,
Speaker 2: you retention starts focusing on the guys coming up, and
Speaker 2: they don't want to hear about the concussions. They don't
Speaker 2: want to hear about the injuries because they're still Ingladiator.
Speaker 4: They're invisible. Oh that's never going to be made.
Speaker 2: Right, they think. And you have to have that mind.
Speaker 1: You don't want to look at that part of it, Yes,
Speaker 1: because it because you can't play scared, not in this game.
Speaker 2: No, this is war, guys, this is war out there.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, when I was throwing my body around,
Speaker 2: when I was winning those two rings, I wasn't worried
Speaker 2: about concussions. I wasn't worried about knees. I wasn't worried
Speaker 2: about my miniscus. I wasn't worried about any.
Speaker 4: Of it back then.
Speaker 2: The damn w diad my right and I was using
Speaker 2: candle left and camera right. O.
Speaker 4: That's and that's Richie's job too, which is what they call.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a new profession. They don't really have
Speaker 4: a name for it yet. They just call it Richie's job.
Speaker 4: They don't know what it is. But he sits over
Speaker 4: there and he is wearing eye black. He has Bruce
Speaker 4: two fourteen written on it, which is a passage from
Speaker 4: a book that he wants us to read. It's a
Speaker 4: good book.
Speaker 2: It might be a novella of Bruce all Mighty.
Speaker 4: I think it might be a novella of Bruce Almighty,
Speaker 4: which he thinks is the Bible. Is that possible.
Speaker 1: I know Bruce Balanche released a book not that long ago,
Speaker 1: and I was curious whether that was the Bruce in question.
Speaker 3: But we are thinking it's Bruce Almighty.
Speaker 4: I mean, just because of it's like related to being God.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Bruce Blanche is also related to God.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean Jesus, he's a god of the
Speaker 4: one liner. It's like.
Speaker 3: You you name me a power more Almighty it comes
Speaker 3: to know.
Speaker 4: The wickeding hen.
Speaker 2: Find it. You're not.
Speaker 1: You don't get to be center square without talking to
Speaker 1: the big man upstairs.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: M mmmmmmmmm.
Speaker 4: You ever done one of these before, Mike?
Speaker 2: One of which? One of what?
Speaker 4: One of these? One of these?
Speaker 3: One of these bad birds?
Speaker 4: Brother?
Speaker 2: A pod? Have I done a podcast with pop in.
Speaker 3: Your fucking cherry hair?
Speaker 4: Brother? Or what? Yeah? Have you done a podcast?
Speaker 3: You ever done one of these things?
Speaker 2: This is my first? Is that what you want to hear?
Speaker 4: This is my It's that I wish more. You wouldn't know.
Speaker 4: So many people coming in here and saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh yeah, I've had my own two or three podcasts.
Speaker 4: Oh uh a podcast? Right yeah, and you can like
Speaker 4: it's okay. They want to seem like there old hands
Speaker 4: at this whatever. It feels like it's my first time
Speaker 4: every time too. You don't got to put on a
Speaker 4: show for us. It's it's all.
Speaker 5: Uh, here's the thing, guys, tell me the thing. Please,
Speaker 5: This is obviously important for you.
Speaker 2: And when I walk through your door and I wipe
Speaker 2: my feet on your welcome Matt and I sit down
Speaker 2: in the studio and we have this interview. My job
Speaker 2: The way I see it is to support you. My
Speaker 2: job is to make you, guys look as awesome as
Speaker 2: you can look. So if that means I come in
Speaker 2: here and I have to play dumb, what's a podcast? No,
Speaker 2: I've never done a podcast. Be more than me, and
Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: The first damn guest who understood the assignment?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Here we do.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who and we talk about this.
Speaker 1: They come on to do a show Michael, and they say,
Speaker 1: what can I get?
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 3: What's there for me?
Speaker 4: I'm here, I have a TV show to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell? Can I talk to people about
Speaker 1: my book or my project or my podcast?
Speaker 4: Ris Ahmed, do you.
Speaker 2: Come on a podcast or a television program? What have
Speaker 2: you to be interviewed? What about you? It's about the host,
Speaker 2: about the hosts.
Speaker 1: Well, the host is there every week, so people are
Speaker 1: tuning in for the host's.
Speaker 2: For some random jerk off actor who you know was
Speaker 2: the second supporting lead on some c W dramedy from
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four. They're there to see you, and if
Speaker 2: and and and if if that actor or actually shows
Speaker 2: up and they contribute a little something they sprinkle little startust,
Speaker 2: so much the better. But that's not why people are
Speaker 2: tuning in. They're tuning in for you, guys. That's why.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 1: Say damn thing that happened to you when you were
Speaker 1: on the field in the NFL, which is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my fucking job. You could come with me, or
Speaker 1: you can be in my way. But if you're in
Speaker 1: my way, you're getting steamrolled.
Speaker 4: Well let's let's support you in supporting us, just so
Speaker 4: we're all on the same page about like what works.
Speaker 3: And what does Hey one hand washed the other.
Speaker 4: Everyone here, everyone here is like pretty nice. I can
Speaker 4: do it the heart with the hand.
Speaker 3: I was trying it. I almost had it, but my
Speaker 3: other fingers were in the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, and you can do yes all the way
Speaker 4: you have to.
Speaker 2: You have to wrap all your fingers and then you
Speaker 2: get a perfect little Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so good. Let's meet everyone real quick. You
Speaker 4: met Richie. He might have forgotten because of uh the
Speaker 4: head injuries. Yeah, uh, this is.
Speaker 2: Do not let him go to sleep, don't let him
Speaker 2: shut his eyes, do not let him go to sleep.
Speaker 3: I'll try and see bloods drying up a little bit too.
Speaker 3: About who else we got to.
Speaker 4: That's and there.
Speaker 3: The way I knew Casey was in the booth, and
Speaker 3: again you're you're you're not here, which.
Speaker 4: Is fine, it's all the time.
Speaker 1: The way I knew it was Casey was when Richie
Speaker 1: went to get on camera. There are three cameras in here,
Speaker 1: and Casey tried the other two first, yep, And so
Speaker 1: I said, well, I know who's working the booth today,
Speaker 1: because when he leaned in front, and you probably felt this,
Speaker 1: we saw fully his back and ass, then we saw
Speaker 1: just a piece of his shoulder.
Speaker 3: And then we got his face. And Casey likes to
Speaker 3: build suspense. He likes to build tension, and it's something
Speaker 3: that can't be taught. You know that drama in the
Speaker 3: podcasting space.
Speaker 2: That's just classic story structure. And and we we have
Speaker 2: to applaud that.
Speaker 4: And can I tell you something that a reputation, So
Speaker 4: let's just put a pinion that so that Michael old Michael,
Speaker 4: let me rephrase that. Okay, I feel I must tell
Speaker 4: you something.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, no, he has no choice.
Speaker 4: Then, A something you've built in your career that I've
Speaker 4: noticed is that millennium Falcon. It's it's it's a little
Speaker 4: like that, Michael. Usually when someone comes on the Zoom,
Speaker 4: Casey and Kevin and the other producers like to make
Speaker 4: sure that they're wearing headphones, that they're using a recording
Speaker 4: app or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's endless the amount of fut saying they will do
Speaker 1: with these guests in order.
Speaker 3: To get some sort of like quality recording from them.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: They also they forbid us from talking for a lot
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: Your presence has created an environment of the first time
Speaker 4: ever where they have just shut the fuck up and
Speaker 4: let the show just happen.
Speaker 1: You have neutralized two of our greatest enemies, our producer
Speaker 1: and our engine.
Speaker 4: Have you been that You have to understi Brick.
Speaker 2: You have to understand something. I'm a classically trained actor,
Speaker 2: so when I speak to you, I'm using the entire
Speaker 2: instrument that part, right, So what does the microphone do.
Speaker 2: The microphone amplifies it, you know, it digitizes its sense.
Speaker 2: I don't need that because I'm classically trained. So when
Speaker 2: I breathe from the diaphragm back of the house, right,
Speaker 2: I'm projecting as a classical chained actor, and that projection
Speaker 2: goes through the internet and out on your side.
Speaker 4: You can speak in a high definition loss list vocal tone. Yes,
Speaker 4: the same way, Larry Olivia, by the way, to the
Speaker 4: back of the proscenium.
Speaker 3: We don't need quick time because your timing is impeakable.
Speaker 2: Please tell your production stat that I speak in flak.
Speaker 2: I use that, uh methodology. I don't know what you
Speaker 2: call it. I use I use that format, Michael, I
Speaker 2: don't use them because the sound quality is better. So
Speaker 2: when I speak, it's in flack.
Speaker 3: Michael, will you invite me into your mind palace for
Speaker 3: a moment? Who do you imagine in the back of
Speaker 3: the house as you're projecting?
Speaker 1: And I know these tricks because you are classically trained
Speaker 1: and you're not just talking to some nameless, faceless audience.
Speaker 3: Member back there.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: There's a memory you're accessing, and there's an individual that
Speaker 3: we speak to, a woman, and it's a woman, and.
Speaker 1: It has to be, of course who and it's getting
Speaker 1: It could be your grandma, it could be a sexual partner.
Speaker 4: You know, we can talk about that. We can talk
Speaker 4: about that here now.
Speaker 2: So now we're getting into process and craft and if
Speaker 2: we may, A lot of actors are reluctant to talk
Speaker 2: about the process, because especially now in one you see,
Speaker 2: they want you to see the finished performance.
Speaker 1: You know, not only not only that, not only that,
Speaker 1: not only that, Michael, but they want to pull the
Speaker 1: ladder back up behind them, don't they don't they pull
Speaker 1: the ladder.
Speaker 4: Back up, Michael.
Speaker 3: Where they say, where they say, where they stay, where
Speaker 3: they stay. Only for me only I get to have
Speaker 3: some Only I enjoy the toys.
Speaker 4: And what I've always respect.
Speaker 3: What I've always admired, and I know I'm interrupting you,
Speaker 3: is that you go. Everybody, get in here. There are
Speaker 3: plenty to go around.
Speaker 4: Take the ladder and throw a rope down as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the ladder. And by the way, actually I
Speaker 3: built a whole fucking escalator.
Speaker 4: It's not working right now, but it's there so you
Speaker 4: can rest the ladder and they can grip the ladder
Speaker 4: as the ladder itself is carried up the escalator. And
Speaker 4: there's a rope just in case, and a rope with
Speaker 4: a bucket too.
Speaker 2: I guess we need to hoist something. We need a
Speaker 2: pulley system as well. So important, you guys, and so critical,
Speaker 2: but you I'm so glad. No It's an important point
Speaker 2: you made, and I'm glad. I'm glad you you raised it. Now,
Speaker 2: I do want to just put a quick caveat into
Speaker 2: what you said, because I agree with everything that you're saying. However,
Speaker 2: I want to make sure the audience, your audience understands
Speaker 2: that when we talk about constructing an escalator. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: those guys, you're using union labor.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I just want everybody, I don't want to be very
Speaker 2: clear about.
Speaker 4: That because otherwise they will you're extremely violent.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't want I don't want
Speaker 2: them picketing my mind palace.
Speaker 4: I'm not a bad actor.
Speaker 2: When I am projecting. Let's say I'm at the old VIC.
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm doing lear again. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: things going on. Obviously, I'm in my given circumstances. Ah,
Speaker 2: I'm lear, I'm addressing my daughter's Yeah, I'm going I'm
Speaker 2: slowly going mad. I'm aged, I'm impurio.
Speaker 4: Can we just can we just explain to the like
Speaker 4: the audience, you know, trying to remember the audience he's
Speaker 4: talking about Dennis Leary.
Speaker 1: As you yes, as you mentioned the audience. We also
Speaker 1: want to bring them in.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yes, and this is a famous uh rant that
Speaker 4: he went on that has now performed. It's a rant
Speaker 4: to his daughters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he's he's talking about the sort of
Speaker 1: modern phenomenon.
Speaker 3: Of the starbucksification of society.
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful monolog. It's a beautiful piece, but
Speaker 1: it is you.
Speaker 3: Know, it builds to this crescendo of it's a smoke,
Speaker 3: a frappa chok alup? Can I get a cup of coffee?
Speaker 3: You know what happened to a cup of mud? A
Speaker 3: cup of joe and just drip coffee please, And the
Speaker 3: and his daughters of course are silent.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, what people don't know if you've never
Speaker 2: seen Leary, it's it's it's performed all over the world,
Speaker 2: as you said, I think last count. It's in almost
Speaker 2: it's been translated into almost.
Speaker 3: Everything, every language. Yeah, not all the good ones.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they do not they do not work it.
Speaker 4: Just yeah, it's big.
Speaker 3: They haven't cracked it, not for lack of trying.
Speaker 2: And what people don't know is if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 2: the play is performed one performer, in this case me,
Speaker 2: I'm playing all the parts. So I'm playing Dennis Leary,
Speaker 2: I'm playing the daughters. I'm playing I'm playing the frappuccino
Speaker 2: at a certain point, and.
Speaker 3: The barista, the pretentious barista, yes.
Speaker 2: The anxious barista. There's twenty three different narratives. It's a
Speaker 2: three and a half hour show. It's it's taxing, it's exhausting,
Speaker 2: and so yes, I'm keeping my given circumstances in mind.
Speaker 2: But I'm also cognizant of the fact that we've asked
Speaker 2: these people, this audience to pay six hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: dollars per ticket to sit there for three and a
Speaker 2: half hours and steals. I want to make sure everybody
Speaker 2: can has a perfect eye line, I want to make
Speaker 2: sure everybody can hear me. And I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that woman who you referenced in the back row
Speaker 2: is just as invested as all of the celebrities in
Speaker 2: the front row, because obviously, when I do Larry, you know,
Speaker 2: you get you get you.
Speaker 3: Get at there's going, yeah, there's going to be.
Speaker 2: The Obamas are going to show up, right Vin's Fallen
Speaker 2: is there three times a week.
Speaker 4: I don't know why Sary himself is often there, but
Speaker 4: in my mind, who I'm speaking to isn't.
Speaker 2: Isn't my grandmother. It's not a sexual partner. It's twelve
Speaker 2: year old, uh, person of color. She's in seventh grade.
Speaker 2: She's starting to think for the first time out, what
Speaker 2: do I want to do with my life? What do
Speaker 2: I want to be?
Speaker 3: Is she sick or something? Is she wounded? Something bad happened?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, she's she's got a terminal illness. Oh no,
Speaker 2: it's true. And and but she does. The parents are
Speaker 2: like her parents are like, you know, Olivia, You're going
Speaker 2: to be fine. You know, we just we just need
Speaker 2: to get this way. She's not going to be fine.
Speaker 2: So she's thinking, what am I going to do with
Speaker 2: my She doesn't know she's going to be dead in
Speaker 2: six months. I want to make sure and hear every word,
Speaker 2: understand every word, and is able to forget about her
Speaker 2: terminal illness. She doesn't know he's criminal. She thinks is
Speaker 2: just going to be chronic for those three and a
Speaker 2: half hours. That's who I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: About, twelve year old minority Olivia Wilde. But if she
Speaker 4: were a person of color.
Speaker 2: And probably question her own sexuality, it's.
Speaker 4: A terminal illness that she thinks she has become by
Speaker 4: curious directing and acting chops. But that will never be
Speaker 4: realized unbeknownst to all except you, the performer, who is
Speaker 4: getting a read on every single person in.
Speaker 1: That And people say, lear is a tragedy, you know,
Speaker 1: And there's also a tragedy taking place.
Speaker 3: In the back of the in the back of the audience.
Speaker 4: For you.
Speaker 1: I want to touch on ticket prices because you mentioned
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty dollars a ticket for the back.
Speaker 3: Of the balcony. There's been some criticism. You come under
Speaker 3: fire a little.
Speaker 1: Bit for the for the sort of inflated you know, cost,
Speaker 1: and people think maybe they we're talking about secondary markets,
Speaker 1: and it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not that it's not retale.
Speaker 4: This is face value.
Speaker 3: And I I have a question.
Speaker 4: I want to pose face value and you know what
Speaker 4: I'm talking and the Valueah, the value of the.
Speaker 2: Face is quite high.
Speaker 4: Uh, there's a there's a a question I want to
Speaker 4: pose to your critics.
Speaker 3: And you don't have to even fear for this part.
Speaker 3: If you want to go a glass of water or something.
Speaker 3: How much should a memory cost? How much should a
Speaker 3: memory call? Can you put a price on a memory?
Speaker 3: You probably eight hundred bucks, right, you can't well, I
Speaker 3: mean you can't, yeah, of course you do.
Speaker 2: Like we know what, we got a pizza the other
Speaker 2: night and it was thirty five bucks, so I remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so it could be thirty five bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean with Chip it was thirty five.
Speaker 1: Depends on the memory too, I guess it depends on
Speaker 1: which one some of our free I.
Speaker 2: Would like to say something to those critics too, because
Speaker 2: obviously I hear the criticism.
Speaker 1: Did I turn the volume down on me? Because I
Speaker 1: know you could get a little a little bit like
Speaker 1: fire up, you know, because.
Speaker 3: It's by the way they're coming for you know, you're lively.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What they don't know. What those critics don't know
Speaker 2: is yes, the tickets are at six hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, start with what they do know, it'd be a
Speaker 3: shorter episode, right.
Speaker 4: They don't know if the go ahead, if the whole
Speaker 4: episode were us saying, if the whole.
Speaker 3: Episode was felling at one of these two categories, if
Speaker 3: that were like we were restrict to talking about that.
Speaker 4: That was very short.
Speaker 3: We're obviously going to cover.
Speaker 4: We like to wander around a little bit and like
Speaker 4: we go on tangents.
Speaker 3: We'll cover other stuff, and we have. If we were
Speaker 3: under the under the very strict you know sort of constriction,
Speaker 3: uh strict constriction that can't be right, but at any.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't raise it.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't do that if we were only doing one
Speaker 1: of them. I'm just supporting you, but go ahead. What
Speaker 1: is it that they don't know.
Speaker 2: What they don't know is, yes, the tickets started six
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars and they go up from there.
Speaker 2: What they don't know is that I insisted that we
Speaker 2: set aside a block of tickets every Egle performance for
Speaker 2: people who can't afford to pay those kinds of prices.
Speaker 2: So we set aside an entire block of two tickets
Speaker 2: for people who just pay what, pay what they.
Speaker 4: Can and have like industry connections of some kind like
Speaker 4: who oh, no.
Speaker 2: You need to know somebody, right, absolutely, no.
Speaker 4: Someone and know someone who like It would be advantageous
Speaker 4: for you as a performer in your career to potentially
Speaker 4: anybody walk to the door, right no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: When I said people who can't afford it, I was
Speaker 2: hoping it was implied people who can't afford it? Who
Speaker 2: can help me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they do.
Speaker 1: They they don't want to pay, but they know somebody
Speaker 1: who Yeah, director or something.
Speaker 4: Talk about not being able to put a price on
Speaker 4: a memory. Uh, I'm remembering when we were colleagues together
Speaker 4: at ear Wolf when you were doing Mike and tomm
Speaker 4: eat snacks and topics and there. Ask you if you've
Speaker 4: done one of these before. Obviously the game has changed.
Speaker 4: One of these is not the same as one of those.
Speaker 3: Have you done a podcast? Yeah, have you done one
Speaker 3: of these?
Speaker 4: Like it's a little different. Like if I could go
Speaker 4: back and say to ear Wolf me, like what this
Speaker 4: was going to become, I would blow my own braids.
Speaker 3: I would eat a bullet and I and I and
Speaker 3: I would say.
Speaker 1: I would say to younger me, and I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: had these moments.
Speaker 4: I would say, if.
Speaker 3: You can do literally anything else, if you don't have
Speaker 3: to do this, go do that.
Speaker 4: But you know what I is gonna be hard what
Speaker 4: Earwolf me would say to me now, I would say,
Speaker 4: don't you remember, old man, you can't You can't do
Speaker 4: anything else.
Speaker 3: This is to pretend that it's a choice. Is the
Speaker 3: thing that actually that's the great comedy.
Speaker 1: I think that occurs sometimes in this business there there
Speaker 1: is still comedy being made. It's everytime somebody asks you, like,
Speaker 1: when did you decide to become I.
Speaker 2: Didn't choose this. It chose me. Yes, yeah, it choose me.
Speaker 4: But it's different, The snacks are different.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. And you alluded to this before when
Speaker 2: you look like this, Yeah, what am I going to
Speaker 2: get a job at a bank?
Speaker 3: Face face car, great black card lying around the block?
Speaker 1: Nobody can get their money out, So yeah, that's oh,
Speaker 1: that's great.
Speaker 2: What am I going to work at an office? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna you know, I'm gonna work with my hands. No,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work with what God gave you.
Speaker 4: You're there so much it's like you work there at
Speaker 4: the bank.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't have a choice. You know, when
Speaker 2: the money comes in, the money comes in.
Speaker 4: Laughing all the way there. We're not gonna send someone
Speaker 4: else to go get us. Laugh now he's laughing. I'll
Speaker 4: steal it.
Speaker 2: No. I most of my money these days is tied
Speaker 2: up in Ethereum, e.
Speaker 4: Thereum, Classic or y I went with Classic, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: yeah that's right.
Speaker 2: And then I've got and then you know, a NFT
Speaker 2: portfolio kind of took a nose dive. But I think
Speaker 2: I'm buying on the dip. I keep buying. I think
Speaker 2: those board apes are coming back.
Speaker 4: M m m m.
Speaker 3: You can't keep a board ape down.
Speaker 4: There's something about to me word apes are boring apes,
Speaker 4: and so that's not a quality I'm attracted to.
Speaker 2: It's an investment. It's an investment class. You're not you
Speaker 2: know you don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not where I like to invest my time.
Speaker 4: Boring apes get bored.
Speaker 1: I have an entire theater of my imagination going on
Speaker 1: at all times.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a curious ape out there who was there
Speaker 4: all along that we could be investing our time in instead,
Speaker 4: and maybe we could buy his stories as well grow
Speaker 4: in value over time.
Speaker 3: I don't even think you need to change the artwork.
Speaker 3: I think it's branding. I think it's language. I think
Speaker 3: it's marketing.
Speaker 1: I think, Michael, you're buying up these boring apes, go
Speaker 1: ahead and start calling them something else.
Speaker 4: I'm interested as here.
Speaker 2: You You may not like this idea, but I feel
Speaker 2: like that. I feel like I got a feeling all I.
Speaker 4: Think.
Speaker 2: I hope you will. I'm just going to pitch this out.
Speaker 2: It just came to me now forty curious Sape. Yes,
Speaker 2: what about a collab between Curious.
Speaker 4: Ape, Curious Ape George, Curious George, get it.
Speaker 3: Take it, put them on some.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not even gonna deal with it because.
Speaker 3: They can wait. They'll wait, it'll be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just drives up my value when I don't
Speaker 2: pick it.
Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes you have to tell them no mm.
Speaker 4: Hm in order to really yes, curious Ape George, Curious
Speaker 4: Ape George.
Speaker 2: And I mean I'm picturing I'm picturing uh, scholastic books.
Speaker 2: I'm picturing happy meals. And obviously I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I got mountain dew on the horn as well.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure it's it's school tastic.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, it's school test.
Speaker 4: It's not. You said it in like a weird way.
Speaker 4: It's school testing.
Speaker 3: When we're speaking extemporaneously and we're speaking so quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's easy to mess up the school tastic book
Speaker 4: fair the yeah all that, it's it's it's it's not
Speaker 4: whatever you says.
Speaker 3: It's like a schoolarly schooler venture.
Speaker 2: And so we were in a nice little we had
Speaker 2: a nice little thing going.
Speaker 4: I think it's nice. Let's just say for me, I
Speaker 4: like to treat people how I like to be treated.
Speaker 4: I like to learn a little bit of a golden rule.
Speaker 4: I like to improve my performance if I get something wrong,
Speaker 4: you respect me by telling me what I got wrong,
Speaker 4: understanding that I can do better.
Speaker 1: Your mind place has something in its teeth, essentially, and
Speaker 1: we don't want to go out into the day and
Speaker 1: a big piece of spinach hanging out that part.
Speaker 2: I definitely like appreciate this and hear you, and I
Speaker 2: think feedback is so important, which is why I'm going
Speaker 2: to give you some feedback. But it's this schoolastic book fair.
Speaker 2: It is scholastic look fair and schools I don't know
Speaker 2: where what would that mean? What would it mean?
Speaker 3: You know, the kids all got scolios or something. By
Speaker 3: the way, it's fine if they do.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm I'm saying, well, I know it's school
Speaker 4: tastic if it were real, which is the school is fantastic,
Speaker 4: and it also includes a lot of these great books. Well,
Speaker 4: so do we do like things that are correct?
Speaker 1: I don't want to derail the whole episode and get
Speaker 1: bogged down in this school tastic which you know, just
Speaker 1: correct and we get talk whatever the you know, chewing
Speaker 1: school taking a big old fat dipper skull.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know in school, it's like not hundred times yes,
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, go ahead in the scholastic school tastic.
Speaker 2: I want to circle back.
Speaker 4: Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: And maybe Mountain do involved that. I wouldn't mind having
Speaker 1: a you know, some some more established corporate backing for this. Uh,
Speaker 1: get Black to voice it, not you having the same
Speaker 1: ideas me, not that.
Speaker 4: Ideas. Not you have.
Speaker 1: Me Jazz Black and he's going and I don't do
Speaker 1: it Jack Black, but he's going, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: sort of riffing out.
Speaker 3: Is you doing a guitar sound with his mouth? As
Speaker 3: a curious George.
Speaker 4: Mountain dew is there? Am I no wonder he's got
Speaker 4: so much energy? Am I crazy for going straight to
Speaker 4: the yellow hat and thinking like, how can we twenty
Speaker 4: six that? How can we take the yellow hat which is.
Speaker 3: Just a two liter bottle of mountain?
Speaker 4: It's still yellow, right, make it a little more.
Speaker 2: I think we get Cynthia or Reva.
Speaker 4: Cynthia, Riva.
Speaker 3: If Cynthia, if Cynthia is available, it's a.
Speaker 4: Big many yellow hat. If she's wearing a two liter
Speaker 4: bottle of Mountain dew made to look more yellow than
Speaker 4: than it currently is, and you react like it was
Speaker 4: always that color.
Speaker 2: We're I think we're doing a signature flavor for the
Speaker 2: release of the film.
Speaker 4: I think we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's banana.
Speaker 4: And man, I literally said it before you and I
Speaker 4: literally said that before you banana, you know. And now
Speaker 4: I'm part of this.
Speaker 1: I wasn't listening at the beginning of it, but we're
Speaker 1: talking about a banana and.
Speaker 4: And I love that is why it's being yellow good.
Speaker 2: I hate that it's so good.
Speaker 4: That's pussied me off. I know we're coming out of that.
Speaker 2: We just got into the ballpark. We're not gonna where
Speaker 2: were you?
Speaker 4: That's what I said. I got nowhere to go from here,
Speaker 4: you know. That's what I'm worried about, is like, uh oh,
Speaker 4: there's no way to improve it.
Speaker 6: So I'm really excited about the board. AP's curious George collaboration,
Speaker 6: Mountain do Cynthio, Revo, Jack Black and At a flavor
Speaker 6: and it's just a question of.
Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be a bidding war. Ye Do
Speaker 1: we have a favorite? Do we have somewhere we're aiming at?
Speaker 3: Because if we know that. I think we could strategize
Speaker 3: this go ahead, Oonie.
Speaker 4: I'm just like Oonie. I think it's going to be
Speaker 4: all over this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my first thought.
Speaker 4: Sony pictures Soonie Ouonie and Sonny, I think are probably
Speaker 4: the two big players in the game. I'd like to
Speaker 4: immediately rule out Apple because I think they're going to
Speaker 4: want to change Baniana to Apple.
Speaker 2: M oh yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: And so and so. What I would say is, what
Speaker 4: I would say is and you can't have us, by
Speaker 4: the way, that might mainly I'm actually come over the top.
Speaker 4: M h m hm.
Speaker 2: The only I feel like the only thing left is
Speaker 2: to figure out something for Shalomy to do. Should be there,
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: So the minions are there with Sallo May.
Speaker 1: It's interesting as we talk about Oonie, as we talk
Speaker 1: about the minions.
Speaker 3: I saw and I don't know if you were here
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 4: My gol.
Speaker 3: Frenchis Mustard did an installation the other day Monsters and
Speaker 3: Minions coming soon.
Speaker 4: Did you go to that installation?
Speaker 3: Were you at the installation?
Speaker 2: No, I have not secured my take gets to the installation.
Speaker 1: And I and I I knew you weren't there because
Speaker 1: I would have seen you because I basically set up shopping.
Speaker 4: And he made it there. He shut it down.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they had to drag me out of that thing.
Speaker 3: Goomy Dominion's new friend, Goomy, little green monster. They've accidentally created.
Speaker 3: Goomy turned the Mustard green. Hmm for our purposes.
Speaker 4: It's not ideal.
Speaker 3: We're working in the space of yellow. Mm hmm. Could
Speaker 3: the curious George board ape turned Goomy yellow as a
Speaker 3: sort of revenge epic? The whole journey, yes, is to
Speaker 3: turn Goomy yellow.
Speaker 4: I'm then he has.
Speaker 3: To apologize to the Mustard.
Speaker 4: I'm nervous about involving Goomy at all, honestly.
Speaker 2: Can we talk about IP real quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Please, Yes, let's introduce.
Speaker 2: Monsters.
Speaker 3: Is that Mountain dew or Yeah?
Speaker 4: Don't talk to her, Mike. I just want to let
Speaker 4: you know you're killing that's your wife. Yeah, my wife
Speaker 4: calls me a lot when I record it.
Speaker 3: Like I'm listening outside the door.
Speaker 4: I know this call. I know this call, and it's
Speaker 4: just like, don't change a damn thing.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm right outside the door. I'm listening to the episode.
Speaker 1: And this is why I married you. Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I get this for free.
Speaker 2: Congratulatory call.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I get this ship for free. Every
Speaker 3: day people just have to pay eight.
Speaker 2: The IP because millions monsters, that's a dream Works property.
Speaker 4: It's elimination. Monsters are illumination, which is the property of
Speaker 4: Suny Pictures Illumination.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna, okay, so I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: do a Japan trip just to sort of hammer this out.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's fine, getting shoot and while we're there, me
Speaker 4: guess they love you there And it's not a guess.
Speaker 4: I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know, don't don't make me
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's lost in transit translation. You're over there, you're
Speaker 4: making money. Everything about that movie is the same, except
Speaker 4: you are actually converting that relationship at the end and
Speaker 4: not a little. Yeah, it's not. There's no will they won't.
Speaker 4: They they will, and they do.
Speaker 3: We land the plane, you know they did, and it's
Speaker 3: a fucking jumbo jet. We land the plane on that one.
Speaker 4: And it's a jet.
Speaker 2: It's a jumbo jet. And that makes Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's weird. I'll be honest, massive, massive, cavernous.
Speaker 1: YEP and we don't gotta we don't got to go
Speaker 1: any further than that. I think we've described though right
Speaker 1: about y Chalom for Goomy is exactly what I say.
Speaker 1: But Hayes said he didn't know if he wanted to
Speaker 1: get Goomy.
Speaker 4: I would love to say that solves it for me.
Speaker 4: Uh and it does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then, and I so love it. So just
Speaker 1: to to very quickly recap, just to make sure, because
Speaker 1: it's for the audience and for Casey and for everyone
Speaker 1: else involved, and for Richie, who you're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Sick, Richie if he's if he's throwing up.
Speaker 4: That's good, right, But that's not good, right, that's not like,
Speaker 4: you know, just just.
Speaker 2: A little dizzy. Put him in an ice bath.
Speaker 4: Again, this is all like normal second second takes bath. Yeah,
Speaker 4: his eyes are crossed, but like vertically one is going
Speaker 4: up with what's going down.
Speaker 2: It's that's fine.
Speaker 3: It's ethereum. It's it's ethereum being invested into n f T.
Speaker 3: It's the board, Curious Ape George.
Speaker 4: Just curious Ape George. It's I think.
Speaker 3: It's curious Ape George. And forget the board, although we
Speaker 3: will be speaking to the board the border Mountain dew
Speaker 3: because they're going to get involved as a two liter
Speaker 3: bottle of mountain.
Speaker 4: Cynthia Rivo's head.
Speaker 3: Jack Black is the voice of the ape. He's rim,
Speaker 3: you know, speaking dumb, and he's doing this and there
Speaker 3: is Goomy involved. Timothy Shallome is Goomy as punishment for
Speaker 3: his crimes.
Speaker 4: He's being turned yellow.
Speaker 3: Cynthia Cynthy O Rivo is doing thed.
Speaker 4: With mount heads yellow favor.
Speaker 2: And what I like about it is that it's hitting
Speaker 2: all four quadrants, hitting everybody.
Speaker 3: We're going Nie, We're going Soony, We're going to Japan.
Speaker 3: The property, which is division of Sunni is illumination. Looking
Speaker 3: at the landscape of media right now, should we do
Speaker 3: ablomination and get Blum in here? Can you get Jason
Speaker 3: Blum on the horn for me? I mean, is horror
Speaker 3: hot right now? Are you looking at these box office numbers?
Speaker 2: Uh? I'm sweating looking at the box office numbers.
Speaker 4: That's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scary how hot horror is.
Speaker 1: It's scary how much money they're making. And so I
Speaker 1: think that we do want to and Goomy's a monster,
Speaker 1: by the way, so we can do this.
Speaker 3: We may want him to be tortured and killed or
Speaker 3: something like that, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mm hmmm. The show is called Have I Got
Speaker 4: News for u? Us? Uh, it's on right now. It's
Speaker 4: on their TV right now, they turn on, it's on.
Speaker 2: Well, we're on hiatus right now, it's on, it's on
Speaker 2: the it's on the cable news network, and we're on
Speaker 2: hiatus until the fall. So if you turn your TV
Speaker 2: on right now, I don't know. I don't know what's
Speaker 2: on your TV, but.
Speaker 3: I have all different I'll turn on and wait.
Speaker 4: That's the magic of it. Every person's individual TV has.
Speaker 1: A different Well, Mike, I don't even have a movie
Speaker 1: on it, don't even have one. But if they but
Speaker 1: if they crack open just to a random page of
Speaker 1: Margaret Atwood's handmade tale, perhaps they will be able to
Speaker 1: through osmosis and ingest some of what you are transmitting
Speaker 1: on this show. Yeah, the warnings, the truth, Yeah, all
Speaker 1: My commitment to.
Speaker 2: This craft has always been about the truth and only
Speaker 2: the truth. So sometimes, look, sometimes the truth is funny.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we get a little chuckle, and that's okay, better
Speaker 2: than it's nice. It's nice, right, it feels good.
Speaker 4: No, it's nice.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the truth can hurt, and that doesn't feel good,
Speaker 2: but in the end.
Speaker 4: Bye bye
Speaker 2: Okay.