1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 3: John coblt Away this week Mark Thompson sitting in on 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: We just had every manner of major legal decision. And 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: what a great guy to talk to about these cases 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: and these legal decisions. Lou Shapiro joins just formerly a 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: deputy public defender in La County, and he's a certified 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: criminal law specialist. And you are You're the real thing, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: my friend, and Lou Shapiro, it is such a pleasure 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: to have you join us on KFI. 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 4: Thank you, Hey, absolutely glad to be with you on 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 4: such an importing matter. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this case has taken a couple of twists 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: and turns. Let's start with the first one, and that 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: has to do with kind of the charging. We were 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: talking a lot low about the fact that it would 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: appear that Sean Combs might have been overcharged with the 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: Rico case. They couldn't even they couldn't bring it in 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: obviously with a multipla. But now I'm reading more and 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: more about the fact that the federally overreached maybe a 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: bit on this. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. From the beginning of 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: the case when they found a rico charge, what comes 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: to mind is the cartel, the mob, and a lot 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: of people were scratching their heads like this doesn't seem 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: to smell like that. But you know, keep an open 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: mind and say, Okay, maybe when we go to trial 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: and we hear it out, maybe that evidence will come out. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: But it never did. It didn't even get close to it. 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: And that's why that you're at the end said, this 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: is not a racketeering case. It's not a mandatory minimum 33 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: fifteen years to life type case. We're not going there for. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 3: The prosecution, and so the lesser charges carrie with them 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: still multiple years potentially behind bars, right. 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: Right, but keeping it realistic. He was acquitted of all 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: the egregious charges. He was acquitted of anything they had 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: to do with force acts or violence or forcing people 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: to do things that he didn't want them to do 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: that he wanted them to do. So the only thing 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: that was left standing was this prostitution charge. Account that 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: bringing someone over state lines to give a prostitution. That's 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: not the typical seven week jury trial in a federal 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: court not. 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so at the end of all of this, 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: that all goes poof. One thing I wanted to ask 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: you is about his detention during that seven weeks and 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: even as they had to panel a jury and all 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: the rest, he was in behind bars for a long time. 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: Why is it that Sean Combs was not given bail? 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: Do you think during all this was it his celebrity 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 3: that worked against him. 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: I think it's the judge trying to send a message 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: to him into the public that while he may not 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: have been convicted of the most serious charges, his conduct 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: was deplorable. I think everybody agrees on that no one 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: should be treated the way a lot of these people 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: were treated it. So there were victims in the case. 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: Maybe they weren't victims by definition of the sex trafsky 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: charges and the racketeering charges, but they were victims. People 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 4: were hurt, people felt coerced to do things that it 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: wanted to release. And that is the message the judges 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: sending by keeping Bidde in jail. 64 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: Okay, but that's the bail de died now I'm asking 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: about before this case actually was adjudicated, they also kept 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: him behind bars. Did you feel like that may may 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: have been also kind of sending a message. 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 5: So in as similar as venies, and I'll say that 69 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: at the time of deciding whether its mused to be 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: detained or not, a judgment is allowed to consider the 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 5: charges to be true for that purpose, and if they were. 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: True, then he would be looking at like in prison, 73 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: and in that sense, he would have all the reason 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: to flee the country. He had the resources to do so, 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: so the judge wasn't going to be taking a chance 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 4: on him. 77 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: I see, Okay, well, that's fascinating. I didn't know that. 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: That's the part of the law that you know. I 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: had no sense of Thank you, Lu Shapiro. We're talking 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: to him about the did he trial, and of course 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: by now most of you know that Sean Combs has 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: quitted on the most serious charges, So now it's likely 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: that we get a sentencing, and again just a handicap 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: at Lou, you feel as though there may be some 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: discounting of all of these multiple years that we hear about. 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: Definitely, the prosecution is saying we're going to still be 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: asking for the maximum time. But I think at the 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: end of the day, a federal judge they have to 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: take into account what others similarly situated defendants get in 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: these types of cases, And it's not the tenth to 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: twenty years. I would be surprised if there's a double 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: digit number on comes in this case. I think he's 93 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 4: looking realistically somewhere between five and eight years on the sentend. 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: Okay, but five and eight years is still last a 95 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: long time. He's fifty five years old. He'll do all 96 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 3: that time. 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: Well, he'll get credit for the time he's done already. 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: And you don't do the entire time. You do about 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: eighty five percent. And there are other ways to earn 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: a good time credit under the first step back by 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 4: Trump in the previous administration. 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: But lu Shapiro the idea somehow that he might just 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: go to a halfway house and chill out for the 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: time that we're talking about serve out a sentence there. 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: No, it wouldn't happen right away. Now, Look, it depends 107 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: on at the rumber sentencing in some time a way, 108 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: So both sides will be submitting their brief, the probation 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: Department will be providing their recommendation, and the judge will 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: have to decide and based on what the judge decides, 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: that's what the sentence will be. That his lawyers are 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: going to be asking for time served, that he's served 113 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: enough time. Given this as just a prostitution commissionside case, 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: she'll be asking for. 115 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Him go ahead. I'm sorry, prostitute. 116 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: The prosecution is going to be asking for the maximum 117 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: I presume, right, Yeah, they're gonna. 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: Ask for the maximums. Up to the judge to decide. 119 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: Where it shu Land, I was going to ask you 120 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: about the conditions that he's he's serving under, in other words, 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: the conditions of that place where he is. 122 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: What is that like? 123 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: It's awful they people are treated, I want to say, 124 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: like animals. I think the idea is that that's the 125 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: only way to control the prison population. So that's how 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: deputies are trained to do so. But it's not very 127 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: well kept. There's all sorts of gag issues that are 128 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: occurring within the prisons. You have to know certain people 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: to get what you want. It's a higher key in there. 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: It's something that that that no one should ever know from. 131 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. 132 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 3: But as this guy is wealthy and powerful on some level, 133 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: would he have that experience or would he have a 134 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: different experience. 135 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, presumably the location that he's in doesn't want any 136 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: issues to happen to him, so he probably would be 137 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: for the most part segregated from a lot of the 138 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: general population inside. But that's also no fun just to 139 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: be isolated and not being able to socialize, communicate and 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: do things with a group of people. 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: So you wouldn't recommend this for Fourth of July weekend. 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like Lou Shapiro. 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and not my first optionsly, you know, there's definitely 144 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: a good amount of fireworks in there. 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, there you go. 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: You know a Debora Lou Shapiro is the guy I 147 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: need to ask about the speeding ticket I got that's 148 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: now costing me nine thousand dollars this year. 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Good luck with that, Yeah, Lou. 150 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: Once I paid the speeding ticket, I didn't think anything 151 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: of it. I haven't had a ticket in fifteen years, 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: so I just paid it. Apparently it's cost my insurance 153 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: to go up to nine thousand dollars this year, and 154 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: there's no way to vacate it after the fact. I 155 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: don't think even for a big, powerful lawyer like Lou Shapiro. 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think I may have the perfect traffic ticket 157 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: lawyer to connect you with. Right after that, Uh, don't 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: lose hope. 159 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, all right, Uh Eric, keep Lou on hold. 160 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Deborah, this could be your. 161 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: Most shocked I thought you were screwed. 162 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: Christmas comes early on the John Coblt Show. Lou, appreciate you, 163 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for helping us through this entire thing. 164 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: Appreciate you being here. 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: Hang on, Hang on the line, Lu Shapiro with the 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: x's and o's of the law. It is the John 167 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: Coblt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty. 168 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 169 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 170 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 7: six forty. 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of a law and order going international. I watched 172 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: that Mariska Hartigaye documentary. She is, of course being the 173 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: lead on law and order. I think there are a 174 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: lot of law and orders. I don't know which one 175 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: is she SVU or I don't know what which one 176 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: it is, but she's you know, she's really now part 177 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: of the culture of law and order right of the show. 178 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: And it's good. 179 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: It's so good. 180 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: Now she was the daughter of Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield 182 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: was This is the great thing about the film. There's 183 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: so many layers of so many people who were extraordinary people, 184 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: and her mother, Jane Mansfield, was one of them. Jane 185 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: Mansfield was a screen star and apparently, you know, world 186 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: famous and had the look of sort of a Marilyn 187 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: Monroe look, right, sex forward, sexy sort of thing. 188 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 189 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: She herself, I think, I want to say, suffer to 190 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: the tough childhood as I recalled in the film. But 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: the thing that was amazing about her. One of the 192 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: things was that she was a genius. I mean, she 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: was to scale genius. I think she had an IQ 194 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: of one sixty six. And she had a gift for music. 195 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: She was a violinist, she was a pianist. I mean, again, 196 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: this is in a hard scrabble childhood that didn't expose 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: her to like a lot of high end you know, 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: art schools and music schools. She had a really rough 199 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: time and yet she grew up with this terrific as 200 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: I say, ability and intellect and she was crushing it. 201 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: But here is. 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: The sad part, slash interesting part when she comes to Hollywood. 203 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: They don't want to know about how smart she is 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: or how gifted she is. They want to play the 205 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: sex card. She's hot looking, right, and they want to 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: play the heat. So she is again like a Marilyn 207 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: Monroe type and she ends up in all of those 208 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: ways realizing I have to play along with the beat 209 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: that they've laid down for me, which is to play 210 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: the you know, the femme fatale kind of hot woman, 211 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: a pin up star. I mean, she really was literally 212 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: a pin up star at the time, and it was 213 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: wild Deborah to see this back and forth, you know, 214 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: like the tug o' war in her own mind and 215 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: in the culture of Hollywood that really suppressed her magic. 216 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: You know. 217 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 8: Well, and then when she was trying to not be 218 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 8: that woman right when she wanted to be taken seriously, 219 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 8: then she wasn't getting offered the parts, and so then 220 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 8: she had to go back to being the woman that 221 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 8: she didn't really want to portray. And the other thing, 222 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 8: I just you know, here's this beautiful, smart woman who 223 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 8: chose some men that were not very nice to her, 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 8: and that's what made me sad too. 225 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, her choice in men was bad. She ended up 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: with tough guys, mobster, but the guy who really loved her, 227 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: it seemed and embraced these children of that. 228 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: And I don't want to spoil them. Yes, exactly, So 229 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spoil them. 230 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 6: I know we have to kind of. 231 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: But the guy who was I think the enduring male 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: love of her life, and that is to say enduring 233 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: on his side, like he really took on the romantic headwinds. 234 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: If you want to think of the relationship headwinds, it 235 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: was this guy who was the was he mister Universe 236 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: or whatever he is. Yeah, yeah, it's really good and 237 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: I would recommend it. It's on HBO Max or whatever 238 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: they're calling it now. 239 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, there is so many layers to this, and 240 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 6: it really is. 241 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 8: It's fascinating. There's something in this for everyone. So if 242 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 8: you think, oh, yeah, I'm not a big you know 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 8: Marissa haggertay fan or you know Jane Mansfield, I mean 244 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 8: there's just there's there's there's just so many layers in it. 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a I mean, I'm not a hater. 246 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't. 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean Mariska Hardigay, I know her. I think she 248 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: does great work. She's a really great actress. But I'm 249 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: not some like fanboy from risk Hardigay or for Jane Mansfield. 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 3: But I know the story of Jane Mansfield and how 251 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: she died tragically in this car accident, and there are 252 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: a lot of details about that that I didn't know 253 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: that are in the movie. 254 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 6: And you know her dad didn't her dad died in 255 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 6: a car accident. 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right, which I thought that was. 257 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: Just there's a bunch of eerie coincidence in this film. 258 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: But one of the great things about it, and then 259 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: we'll move on, But one of the great things about 260 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: it is the. 261 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: First person perspective you have. 262 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: That is to say, she's making the discoveries along with 263 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: the audience. They follow her on this journey of discovery 264 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: Mariska Hardigay. So she's making discoveries about her own family, 265 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: and she's having interactions about her own background and connections 266 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: that we're realizing at the same time she is. It's 267 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: really compelling. So both Deborah and I give it the 268 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: five star rating. 269 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,359 Speaker 8: Did you also, just since we're talking about these documentaries, 270 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 8: did you see the Barbara Walters documentary? 271 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: No, I haven't, By the way, I just wanted to. 272 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: It's called my mom Jane j a y any No, 273 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I haven't where is that one. 274 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 6: I believe that's I'd have to look up. Oh, Hulu. 275 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 6: I believe it's Hulu, okay. 276 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 8: And it just it's all about Barbara Walter's life and 277 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 8: how she climbed to the top and the sacrifices she made. 278 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 8: And I mean, I just remember just being in high 279 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 8: school and my dream. 280 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 6: Was to be Barbara Walters. 281 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 8: I just admired her so much as a female wanting 282 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: to be a journalist, and so I especially loved it. 283 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 8: I mean, a lot of it I knew, but it 284 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 8: if you are a journalism fan, and if you're a 285 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 8: Barbara Walters fan, you're definitely gonna like it. 286 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh great, I'm going to So it's on Hulu. Barbara 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: Walters Documentary. It says here Netflix. 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 6: Oh it's a Netflix. 289 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: No, but no, it says Hulu. 290 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 6: No, okay, Yeah, it's very. 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: Geez Barbara Walters. It's called Tell Me Everything, Yes, and 292 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: it's available on Hulu. 293 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: All right. I haven't seen that yet, oh anywhere. 294 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 8: There's some interesting things about her that I didn't know either, 295 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 8: So it's it's worth your while. 296 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: She definitely broke the glass ceiling. I mean, she h 297 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: for sure. It was so hard for women in this 298 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: business dominated by all businesses were pretty much dominated by men, 299 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: but broadcasting she always Walter Crome fully. 300 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 8: By some men, and then her rivalry with Diane Sawyer. 301 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 6: It's fascinating. 302 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Oh cool, all I'll check it out. All right. Those 303 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: are your movie recommendations. It's the co Belt Show. Thompson 304 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: sitting in on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 305 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 306 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty. 307 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: I got an email after a conversation we had yesterday. 308 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: I guess it was maybe it was Monday. Monday, the 309 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: legislation was signed into law. It was a piece of 310 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: legislation signed by the governor and it rolls back the 311 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: environmental regulations to essentially it suggested kind of jumpstart housing 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: and all of this hornet's nest of environmental regulations of 313 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: one sort or another that have always been more or 314 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: less the cornerstone of issues when it comes to building 315 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: that kind of slowed the building process in California. They're 316 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: getting cut through because of this new legislation, and it's 317 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: being hailed as just that as getting more housing available 318 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: sooner because now the environmental thicket has been thinned. 319 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's against that backdrop. 320 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: But we were kind of doing the story and I 321 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: got a really good email from this guy, Richard Ferris, 322 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: who is a in the construction world. He says, Mark, 323 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: I enjoy you filling in on KFI. By the way, 324 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: that's a great way to start any email. Thank you. 325 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm afraid that Newsome hustled you with the appearance of 326 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: throwing the environmentalists under the bus for the benefit of 327 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: affordable housing. What the governor really did was throw people 328 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: who give him a little money under the bus for 329 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: the benefit of people who give him a lot of 330 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: money with little or no improvement to affordability. If you 331 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: look at the proposal, Richard says, you will see that 332 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: it is conditioned on developers paying quote prevailing wages to 333 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: all craftsmen on the projects. Prevailing wages are not the 334 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: prevailing wages paid in a non union homebuilding environment. Rather, 335 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: they are union wages, which are about twice normal wages. 336 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: Since labor is about half of normal construction cost, that 337 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: means a twenty five percent increase construction cost. It is 338 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: doubtful that the reduced environmental regulations can offset such a cost. 339 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 3: The building trades have become experts at slipping this kind 340 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: of thing into bills which force union wages on non 341 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: signatory entities, thereby reducing management resistance to unionization since they're 342 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: already forced to pay union wages and benefits like always. 343 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: He says, follow the money. Thank you for this email, Richard, 344 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: And I think Richard is right. I double back read 345 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: through the legislation and sure enough, I mean it really 346 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: is designed on some level to make sure the unions 347 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: are taken care of and that union labor is integrated 348 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: into all of this construction work that's talked about. So 349 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: it can be played as environmental rollback and regulatory rollback, 350 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: But what is also happening is that there is an imphysition, 351 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: if you will, of this blueprint to get more union 352 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: labor into the housing construction market. And so that is 353 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: the other side, at minimum of this major housing reform 354 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: that was championed on Monday as the thing that would 355 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: bring transformative housing legislation to the state capitol. And while 356 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: it may transform on one level, it may not FastTrack 357 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: a build out the way they're talking about it. California 358 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: bars must Now by the way, my email is the 359 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: Mark Thompson Show at gmail dot com. That's what Richard 360 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: was reached me at that. That's from my YouTube show, 361 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: The Mark Thompson Show. So that's or my podcast which 362 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 3: is also on IR Radio. Anyway, the Mark Thompson Show 363 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. Thank you again, Richard for that. 364 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: California bars and nightclubs already requiring these signs that are posted. 365 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: You've probably see them, let letting the customers know that 366 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: drug testing kits are available. Now there is going to 367 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: have to be a stack of lids handy. One more 368 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: method for protecting patrons from drinks that have been drugged. 369 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: This is a new Assembly bill went into effect yesterday. 370 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: It requires any establishment in the state of California where 371 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: alcohol is sold for on site consumption to have lids 372 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: at the ready upon customer request. So many people are 373 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: drugging each other in these bars that they need this legislation. 374 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy what is going on in these bars. The 375 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: bar and nightclub owners in La spoken to for the 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: story that ran in the La Times seem to understand it. 377 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: They say it's an insignificant cause for the safety of 378 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: their customers. There weren't lids here before, and now there are, 379 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: said one bar owner. Not much has changed. Doesn't cost anything. 380 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: All right. 381 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: According to the bill, there's no requirement to provide the 382 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: lid unless requested by the customer, and they can charge 383 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: a reasonable and it's in quotes price for a lid 384 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: if they choose. Y'all be careful out there. I guess 385 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: it's a much tougher world at the bar scene than 386 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: it used to be. 387 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 4: Really. 388 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 8: The guys are that horny that they have to drug 389 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 8: women and because they can't find anybody else that's going 390 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 8: to go home with them. 391 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Willingly, well you do bottom line it. 392 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: I think that apparently that's happening in large enough numbers 393 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: that I'd say, ladies, take your drinks with you to 394 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: the ladies so we can only nanny state you so 395 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: far right. It's John Cobolt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in 396 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: or KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 397 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 398 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 7: six forty. 399 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw on his way to three thousand strikeouts. Is 400 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: that I think that tonight it could happen. Yeah, he's 401 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: three strikeouts away. How great is that? What a night? 402 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: What else is happening out there tonight? Yamamoto babblehead night? 403 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Come on, now, come. 404 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: On, it's the first ten thousand to give him to everybody. 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: I believe it's the first forty thousand. 406 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty terrific. Man. There are a lot of Major 407 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: League clubs that they just go first ten thousand, you know, 408 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: or well. 409 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 9: I mean the Dodgers attracted a few more fans than 410 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 9: some other teams, that is. 411 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: True, but that's one of the reasons. I mean, I 412 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: think they build that franchise. Look, Otani was with the Angels, right, 413 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: and he was there for how many seasons? Eric, I 414 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 3: mean I believe six or seven. I mean there was 415 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: no building around that brand. I mean, he was the 416 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: brilliant ballplayer that he is now back then. Yeah, the 417 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: Dodgers built this aura around him and the rest of 418 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: the team that matters. I mean, the Angels weren't a 419 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: great team when they had him, I don't think, but 420 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: the Dodgers market so well. 421 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 9: And yeah, and I mean winning the World Series in 422 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 9: his first season kind of helps too. 423 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Sure, As I say, it was a much better team. 424 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: But you're you're right. I mean, they won it all, 425 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: but this would be exciting kershaw tonight, well have fun 426 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: that shit. Yeah, that's gonna be a that's gonna be 427 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: a good one. Single people, Tinder is now requiring that 428 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: you scan your face. They need facial recognition scans for 429 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: all California users. They're trying to build trust among users 430 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: and apparently there's scams and frauds that are plaguing a 431 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: lot of these dating apps. Did you see the tender 432 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 3: swin documentary. I don't know if anybody's familiar with that. 433 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: It was a few years ago, but a guy who 434 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: sort of repped that he was a big money I 435 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: want to say, he was like a comes out of 436 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: the Middle East somewhere I forget where, but he had 437 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: you know, he's always messaging in a video from his 438 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: Lamborghini or there was all this sort of really over 439 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: the top stuff related to who he was and what 440 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: he had, and it turned out, of course that he 441 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: had nothing and he was stringing along all of these women. 442 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: The I think it won an Emmy. 443 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: The the doc was called the Tinder Swindler. 444 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 9: Any remember the MTV show Catfished. Oh my God, yes, 445 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 9: that was a little bit before Tender, but same concept. No, 446 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 9: that absolutely is totally misrepresenting. That's a great movie. The 447 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 9: it was. 448 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: The documentary Catfished or Catfish that birthed the show, right, 449 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: or did the show? 450 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I think that was the way it went. And then 451 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: they did the show on MTV. 452 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the show on MTV was essentially every episode 453 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: they were revealing another catfish scam. But online you really 454 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: do find yourself vulnerable to whatever story somebody's telling you, 455 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: and if it's told in a credible enough way they 456 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: tell it on video, you kind of look to see, 457 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, what stuff's around the person, and you establish 458 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: their credibility on your own, you can end up getting screwed. 459 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: And that's sort of what they're doing here on Tender. 460 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: So now facial recognition scan for all users in California 461 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: will be required. But I'm looking at Tender's other thing. 462 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: They have a group dating feature they're trying to get. 463 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm laughing because it just seems like, I don't know, 464 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: the whole thing seems like a hookup app to begin with, 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: and now you've got some kind of, you know, freaky 466 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: diddy kind of hookup thing going on Apparently they are 467 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 3: launching and they did launch already a double dating feature, 468 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: apparently so you could build joint profiles with friends to 469 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: match with other double date type situations. Double Date, as 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: the feature is called, is the refined version of this 471 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: product that they tried to get launched called Tender Social 472 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: that was discontinued in twenty seventeen. To activate double Date, 473 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: users select up to three friends to create a pair with. 474 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: Then they can browse and like other paired users. When 475 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: both pairs like each other, a group chat opens. All 476 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: four people are in the group chat to coordinate plans. 477 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: This feature also allows users to message individuals with a 478 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: matched pair privately if they want to transition to a 479 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: one on one conversation. I like you, but I'm not 480 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: crazy about that other person who you brought into our 481 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: group chat. Users can maintain multiple pairings with different friends 482 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 3: while keeping their individual dating profile separate. They tried this 483 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: in Europe and Latin America and apparently it's very popular, 484 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 3: particularly with young users. It's meant to help relieve dating 485 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: stress for younger users, says Tender's head of product marketing, 486 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: and Tender continues to till new soil. You know, where 487 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: Tender's based. Don't you anybody know where Tender's based? Isn't 488 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: it San Francisco, West Hollywood? 489 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 8: Oh? 490 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: No way? Yeah, I know. 491 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: I was surprised by that also, I figured, yeah, somewhere 492 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: in Silicon Valley, San Francisco. Nearly ninety percent of the 493 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: people who tried double Date were under twenty nine, So 494 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: they're trying to expand Tender to a younger generation. And 495 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: it appears that this group makes it safer for women 496 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: that women. They say, based on their information and their data, 497 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: they're three times more likely to show interest impaired profiles 498 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: compared to individuals just using it one on one. 499 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: So, uh, it's crazy. 500 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 3: I remember when Okaycupid was just starting and match dot com, 501 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: and now you have so many you have invite only 502 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: things that Aryah and all these other When I'm asking 503 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: people how did you meet, they always serve up some 504 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: new online app that I've never heard of. All of 505 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: you who are as single, it's a great thing to 506 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: be able to connect with people virtually all of these 507 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: different apps, But man, it's also just a thicket of trouble. 508 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: You know. 509 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: It's just a lot to go through, you know, Plus 510 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: when you put your profile up there. If you don't 511 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: get any bites early on, it's a blow to your ego. 512 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: Take it from me, I know, thank God that part 513 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: of my life is over. 514 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, when you are. 515 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: On those apps and you connect with somebody who you like, 516 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: it's a pretty great uh, it's a great day. So 517 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: with that, I wish you a happy Fourth of July. 518 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: I thank everybody on this show. We're full this station 519 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: and this building of great patriots, and it's great to 520 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: be around you all on this Fourth of July week. 521 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: John returns next week. 522 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: We're KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 523 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 524 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 525 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 526 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.