1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: He's ready, there's the snap, there's the spot, kick away, 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: it is up, and it is god. Jack Bite sets 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: it through probably to week eight of the NFL season. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Yet here, man, already, this is crazy. I mean, it 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: flies by. This is the twenty in the Huddle podcast, 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: and you guys might know who this is. Will Birchfield, 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: the writer personality for ninety seven point one, does a 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: lot with Fox two as well. A guy who is 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of toes in a lot of different things, kind 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: of everywhere, just like I guess. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: I like that. 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: Well, he's joining me here for the three key segment 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: as we do every week in the twenty in the 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Uddle podcast. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 3: And well, let's just get right to it. 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, you look at this Titans football team and 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: you see one in five and you say, well, you know, offensively, 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: their numbers, you know, are among the worst in the league. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: But that defense isn't a one in five defense, is it? 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: And I think that is is going to be a 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: fun match with this one. 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: Because it's not going to be as easy I think 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: as people see the one in five record and oh wow, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: this is an easy. 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: Win for Detroit. 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: That's a really good defense with some good players. 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, they see the one in. 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 5: Five record, but maybe don't see the number one ranked 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 5: defense in the NFL, which is staggering. You go and 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: look at their statistics and you expect to see a 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 5: bottom of the barrel team across the board, but this 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: is a really stout defensive line. I mean, Jeffrey Simmons. 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 5: We all know Jeffrey Simmons, as Campbell just called him 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 5: a monster, and he's been a monster for what seems 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: like five six years now. 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: He's just an absolute force up front. 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: But then the rookie playing next to him, to and 38 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 5: Andre Sweat, is another evolving, growing monster, and he was 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 5: probably a first round talent at Texas who slid into 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: the second after I think a DWI before the draft, 41 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 5: but he has first round measurables. He's got first round explosiveness, 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: and those two guys together have formed a wall. 43 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: Against the run. 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: They're only allowing I think three point nine yards of carry. 45 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 5: That's almost as good as a get to the NFL. 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 5: And look, they've got obviously an under man defense. 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Now. 48 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: They trade Ernest Jones today, who was their second leading 49 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 5: tackler and a really physical downhill linebacker, but still a 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 5: lot up front to handle. And we know Quandre Diggs 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 5: from his time here, and that's a guy who a 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 5: loves to come down and tackle himself, but also is 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: no stranger to making plays on the ball in the secondary. 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: So there are there are pieces defensively for this Lion's 55 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: offense to account for it. 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: And Luxurious Sneed is on this team. People can't forget 57 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 3: about that, the success that he had. 58 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: And then obviously Harrld Landry get after guys forty five 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: career sex and he's got four on the season. 60 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: This is you mentioned their. 61 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Number one team in total defense, but they're number three 62 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: against the past too. So the Quandre Diggs and Snead and. 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: Come around the edge, well, I mean, there's just a 64 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 5: lot of problems that they can pose for a one 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 5: in five team. And as Dan was telling us this morning, 66 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: and it really is for the Titans, the fact they 67 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 5: haven't taken the ball away and they've turned it over 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: too often, and if they can just turnover differential, they 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: probably go for one and five team to maybe a 70 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 5: three and three team, and that puts you in the 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: playoff conversation. So they have individual pieces that can cause issues, 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: and the Lions offense will have to be at its 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: typical bast on Sunday. 74 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: That's a great point. 75 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: And it's such a rare thing to have a defense 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: with as many good players as we just talked about 77 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: three takeaways on the season. 78 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: It's just unseemly. 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Kirby Joseph and Brian Bridge 80 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: have foreigner stuff. 81 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: They have eight just with those two guys, you know 82 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 83 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: So that is been the Achilles heel. But this is 84 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: going to be a terrific matchup. 85 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: This is going to be a situation where you know, 86 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee comes into Detroit just rolls. You know, they've gotten 87 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: off the good starts. It's their offense that has turned 88 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: the football over too much, put them in bad situations. 89 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Their special teams has had some some spotty play, and 90 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: they've given up some return touchdowns. And so it's a 91 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: it's a much better team defensively than people think with 92 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: that record. 93 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 5: I think the Lions offense relish is matchups, and especially 94 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: that offensive line. I mean, we get to see best 95 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 5: on best on Sunday. Get to see Frank rag Now 96 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: and and Kevin Zeitler if he is healthy enough to go, 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: and and Graham Glasgow counter those big horses in the 98 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 5: middle and in obviously uh Sweat and Simmons. So it's 99 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: gonna be fun to see them kind of lean back 100 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: and forth on each other and see who breaks first. 101 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: And I just always have so much faith in this 102 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: offensive line and Rag now kind of leading the charge 103 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: as as the I guess, I guess the fulk crumb 104 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 5: of that offensive line that I still I still love 105 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 5: this matchup for the Lions, and you don't see many 106 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 5: double digit point spreads in the NFL. But it's not 107 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: an easy cover and it's not really an easy win either. 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 5: The offense will have to I mean, if they score 109 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: forty again, they should be fine. And at this break, 110 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: what one hundred and twenty points in their past three games. 111 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't play any better than that offensive. 112 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: You can't play any better than Jared Golf and the 113 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: way he's playing too. I mean, right, he can't become 114 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: MVP and that and that's the that's the next key 115 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: years is can he keep up this pace? I mean, 116 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: you look at something in the Steves had the great 117 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: number this face. 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: It's incredible that the Lions. 119 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Have scored more touchdowns eighteen than Jared Golf has incompletions 120 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: sixteen over the past four games, which you see ridiculous. 121 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: Which is this is the first time that has been 122 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: done by any team in a four game sample since 123 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: the merger in what nineteen seventy sixty eight. I think 124 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: Lojo was like thirty five back now. But they're doing historic, 125 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: unprecedented things every week. Off had a passer rating of 126 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 5: one forty plus for the third straight week, only the 127 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: fourth time that's ever been done. 128 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: The last two guys to do it Aaron Rodgers in 129 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: twenty eleven, Kurt Warner in ninety nine. One MV that Ye, 130 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: he's doing MVP level things. 131 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: And obviously it's a conversation that includes Lamar Jackson as 132 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 5: it always seems to and and Josh Allen, but he 133 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 5: is right there among and Mahomes, although his numbers aren't 134 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: all that impressive. Patrick, Yeah, but goff longs in that 135 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: and yeah, at the forefront of that conversation. 136 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's second in the league in completion percentage, 137 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: second in the league in passer rating. You know, I 138 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: mean all these numbers where he stacks he's got the 139 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: third most twenty plus yard completions. I mean he's he 140 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: is just he has complete control of Ben Johnson's offense. 141 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: I see them too, like being able to finish each 142 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: other's sentences. 143 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 4: That's how much they are in like the step brothers. 144 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously we all know Ben is a 145 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: terrific play caller, but it also takes that quarterback to 146 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: identify what coverage you're seeing, change it into a different 147 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: play if need be. And and that's where I think 148 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Jared is just on a. 149 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: Whole nother level right now. 150 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: You don't see very many bad plays or them in well, 151 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, terrible situations. He's just really good at knowing, 152 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, what play to get them into. You know, 153 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: even if it's a dump down to the running backs. 154 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: We saw that a bunch and teams are giving him that. 155 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: And look, a good, good, good quarterback takes that. Tom 156 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: Brady said it all the time, I'll take dunk you 157 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: to doubt complete hundred yards. Yeah yeah, And they're just 158 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: moving the football and he is playing at a level 159 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: where I think, I think you're right, I think he 160 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: should be right there in the MVP conversation, and he, 161 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the reason why they're five to one. 162 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you love completions, especially when the alternative might 163 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 5: might be a dangerous throw that becomes an interception. And 164 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: I think we did see Jared, maybe for the first 165 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: time since his first year here make those mistakes in 166 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: the first couple of games. 167 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: He acknowledged himself. He did say, you know, there were 168 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: a couple of. 169 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 5: Throws against Seattle and even against LA that I probably 170 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: got away with where I was trying to do too much, 171 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 5: forcing the ball downfield into tight windows to receivers who 172 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: weren't really open. Ever since that Cardinals game, Campbell called 173 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 5: it his reset game. He's been playing clean, not risk averse, 174 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: but smart football. Like smart football doesn't have to be 175 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 5: always safe football. I thought his best throw last week 176 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: was maybe his boldest on first and ten on the 177 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: game winning drive or near midfield, and they could have 178 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: just run the ball and tried to bleed some more 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 5: clock and they probably would have picked up five six 180 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: hours to carry as they always do. Instead, he takes 181 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: like a nine yard drop and fires a bullet to 182 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 5: Saint Brown into two converging defenders, and if that ball 183 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: arrives a half second sooner, it's probably over Saint Brown's head. 184 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: A half second later, it's probably picked and so he 185 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 5: has belief in his arm, but he's just making such 186 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: sound decisions. 187 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: And then the touchdown to Saint Brown. 188 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: What a beautiful play call and he's and Saint Brown 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: said they had worked out all week knowing they were 190 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: going to get that exact look from that exact defense. 191 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: And when they got it and Jared saw them bringing 192 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: six and they were playing cover zero, he brings Tim 193 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 5: Patrick into motion. He picks up that blitz on the 194 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: right side of the line. Goffice is staring at Jamil 195 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: to pull the safety's eyes to the sideline, all the 196 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: while knowing Saint Brown's running free down the seam hits 197 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: him on a perfect pass and it's just like that. 198 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: That kind of operation, from the. 199 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: Play call to the execution to seeing it is why 200 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: he's such a valuable quarterback in the NFL. 201 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, I wrote on that play this week on 202 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: to toroy Lions dot com, and my point in that 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: article is it's the little things that this offense does. 204 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: It's the Tim Patrick's block, it's Jared getting him to 205 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: the right play. It's all those little tiny things that 206 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: are making this this product be one of the most 207 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: exciting to watch in the NFL, and you listen to 208 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: the national pundits and even just players around the league 209 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: talk about Detroit and this offense. 210 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: Now there must see TV. 211 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a offense is and that's a fun place 212 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: to be Jared Golf, Ben Johnson totally man. 213 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: And if you're a fan, I mean, I was making 214 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: this point last weekend, like just don't take this team 215 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: for granted, and I know Lions fans of all fans 216 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: never would, but like, if you look around the NFL 217 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: every Sunday, there are comedy shows. You see something sometimes 218 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: week after week after week. And these guys are are 219 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: a good watch game in, game out. They're they're easy 220 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: on the eyes, like even when your heart's in your throat. 221 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 5: They just they're compelling theater. And a lot of teams 222 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 5: in the NFL are a hard ugly watch. I mean, 223 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: Lions fans know that from this team's past. So to 224 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: be able to sit down every Sunday and look forward 225 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 5: to watching your team play and then having them deliver 226 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: is a rare place to be in the NFL. And 227 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 5: it's just it's shouldn't go unnoticed or unacknowledged, all Right. 228 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: One of the things that Detroit had to deal with 229 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: last week obviously was the first game without Aiden Hutchinson. 230 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: This week a little bit different of a challenge, their 231 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: first game without Jamison Williams. Who's gonna you know, serve 232 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: obviously two game suspension. You look at last week's game, 233 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: one catch minus four yards and the team still scored 234 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: thirty one points, So you look at it and say 235 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: they can get by that. I think the biggest impact 236 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: to me Will is gonna be what it does to 237 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: opposing defenses and how defenses will will maybe change because 238 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: it's the Jamo effect that helps this offense, and it's the. 239 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Fear of his speed. 240 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: But we can count on one hand the guys that 241 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: can run as fast as Jamison Williams in this league. 242 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean Tyreek Hill. We're talking about those type, that 243 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: type of speed, and defenses have to account for that. 244 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: You know. 245 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson talked about the Dallas game where they played 246 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: a lot of too high to start and so, okay, 247 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna play. 248 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: Too high, Well, we'll run the football, and you run 249 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: the football. 250 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: For you know, to the one hundred and eighty some yards. 251 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: But that's because teams are doing that too high, because 252 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: they fear. Jameis to Williams that speed and Detroit hit 253 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: on some of those big plays early. They put it 254 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: on tape, and so it'll be interesting to me to 255 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: see how Tennessee reacts to not having that speed, not 256 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: having that guy that can take the top off the defense. 257 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Will they focus more on the run game and how 258 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: does Detroit counter that? 259 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we saw Jamo's effect on Saint Brown's 260 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 5: touchdown last week. He doesn't obviously touch the ball, but 261 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 5: the threat of his speed demanded the safety's attention. As 262 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 5: soon as Jared looked his way, the entire defense shifted. 263 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: In the secondary towards Jmo. 264 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 5: That allows Saint Brown to run open down the scene 265 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: thirty five yard touchdown. So he's a rare player in 266 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: that he doesn't really have to touch the ball to 267 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: change the entire game or to bend the defense. And 268 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 5: I do think that will change a little bit. The 269 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: Lions have a lot of faith though in Khalif Raymond. 270 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: I mean talk about a pillar like a building block 271 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 5: of a group organization. 272 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, totally man. 273 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 5: And as Campbell told us today, he's got some speed 274 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: now too. I mean, did you see what he did 275 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: to Stefan Gilmour on his release on his touchdown last week, 276 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: he put him in a blender and Gilmore hit the 277 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: deck like you don't see many ten year deck. Ten 278 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: year vets hit the deck. And I think they'll utilize 279 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 5: him some more. We might see some Alan Robinson. I 280 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: think Tim Patrick scores his first lines touchdown this that's 281 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 5: my bold prediction. I was talking to Tim Patrick last 282 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: week and he was just telling me how much he 283 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 5: has enjoyed being part of this offense, because he said, 284 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 5: it's so fun going to going to the field every Sunday, knowing. 285 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 4: That everybody's a little bit psycho. 286 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: He said, I just love that. 287 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 5: I love that everyone here is like minded. The receivers 288 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 5: love to block. They really truly enjoy it. That's true 289 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: of Tim Patrick as well. But you can see the 290 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: developing rapport between he and Jared Goff, and I think 291 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: Jared Goff more and more is trusting Tim Patrick down 292 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 5: the field. I think he's a great red zone target. 293 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: I think we'll see Tim Patrick show up more and 294 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: more this Sunday. 295 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I think he solidified that wide receiver group totally. He 296 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: gave him something they didn't have. Six foot five two ten. 297 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: You know, you've got a big frame. 298 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 5: You're guys like that walking around guys totally. I mean 299 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: why Jared love Josh Reynolds because he made all of 300 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: those plays that Tim Patrick seems equipped to make. 301 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: And he's willing and able to come in here and block. 302 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: He's taken on that mentality. Yeah, he's tried to fit in. 303 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: He's really good. 304 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 305 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine. They you know, I think 306 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: they'll they'll see a little bit different of coverage than 307 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: what they would. Yeah, Jamison be on the field and 308 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, I hope James's back, you know, 309 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: quickly after after the two games. But I just don't 310 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: see this offense skipping a bit. Yeah really, I mean 311 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: they've got so many guys and so many weapons, and 312 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, Ben will come up with something and I 313 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: think they'll I think they'll be just fine. 314 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 315 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 5: I meantime, Dan starts to run down the list of 316 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 5: oh we still have this guy and that guy and 317 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 5: that guy and this guy and this guy and that guy. 318 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 5: Are like, oh my god, they still they do have 319 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 5: so much to work with. Still, I mean, yeah, I 320 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 5: didn't think they'll be all right. 321 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: Well, it should be a fun one after two weeks 322 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: on the road. 323 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: Back in ford. 324 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Field, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy in there. 325 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: It should be fun when you will be there. 326 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: You can catch all this stuff on ninety seven one 327 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: and obviously does a lot with Fox too. 328 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: Will Birchfield a. 329 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Man is around time. A lot of. 330 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me so much. 331 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: I'll appreciate your insight and we'll see on some Yeah, 332 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: we'll do hockey talk next time. 333 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 334 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Twin the Huddle podcast and I've 335 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: been waiting for this one all week now. I've got 336 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Lions kicker Jake Bates in with me, or I should 337 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: say the NFC Special Teams Player of the Week Jake 338 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Bates is just win a whirl win of a. 339 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Week, right, Yeah, it's been. It's been crazy. 340 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: A lot of people are trying to figure out about 341 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 6: my story, so people have been reaching out to me 342 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 6: about being a former brick salesman and stuff. So because 343 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 6: I kind of that kind of got bown out of proportion. 344 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: But it's been. It's been a fun week. 345 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 6: I'm ready to, you know, put that aside and get 346 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: ready for the Titans this week. 347 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: All right. 348 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: So look, you're growing up in tom Ball, Texas. I 349 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: said that, right, all right, and you are one heck 350 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: of a soccer player. 351 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: What what's the what's the goal? What's the dream? 352 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Back when you're that soccer player in tom Ball Texas. 353 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 6: The dream is to the play overseas, go to you know, England, Spain, 354 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: something like that, play overseas, play in the World Cup, 355 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 6: and you know, represent our country and stuff like that. 356 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 6: And you know, that was always the dream until really 357 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 6: once I was probably seventeen or eighteen, probably realizing I 358 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 6: wasn't that good. Maybe just college, but when I was little, 359 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 6: I wanted to go overseas and do that thing. 360 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: So when did this whole football thing start kicking, start churning? 361 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: The opportunity come for. 362 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: You really, like over COVID. 363 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: So I transferred from UCA, where I was playing soccer, 364 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: and I kind of came to the realization I was 365 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 6: done with soccer, but I didn't want to be done 366 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 6: with sports. So it's like, what can I do? You know, 367 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 6: I've been kicking a ball. Let's see if we can, 368 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: you know, find our way somewhere. And so during like 369 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 6: the lockout, I was at home and I would just 370 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 6: send video out to like every school, and I got 371 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 6: one response from Texas State for their special teams coach. 372 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 6: And he takes one. It just takes one. And I 373 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: mean he knows how thankful I am for him, but yeah, 374 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 6: just just takes one. I got one opportunity and was 375 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: able to walk on there and and do two years 376 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 6: there and then one at Arkansas, And you know, I 377 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: had a blast with it. 378 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: But you're kicking, you know, you're you're kind of a 379 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: kickoff specialist, right, You're not getting a real opportunity to 380 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: be a place kicker, and so you know, you go through, 381 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: you graduate. Just take me through what the next steps 382 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: were when you were done. How much interest did the 383 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: NFL have and kind of what what did that look 384 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: like right after school in that opportunity. 385 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was tough because like, realistically, I knew I 386 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: didn't kick in college, so you know, who's going to 387 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: take a chance on me? But I wanted to take 388 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: it if it was there. So I was training with 389 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: this guy named Adam Sanowski and up in Buffalo with 390 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 6: a bunch of other really good kickers that were coming 391 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: out that year, just getting ready for Pro Day, and 392 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: then like no one knew who I was going into 393 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 6: Pro day, and then I had a pretty good Pro 394 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: day and they started asking coaches like, you know, why 395 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: wasn't he kicking field goals? And it's like, well, we 396 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 6: actually have this guy named Cam Little who's now the 397 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 6: kicker for the Jags. 398 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 2: He was the guy that was above me at Arkansas. 399 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 6: So I was like, I wasn't gonna you know, he's 400 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: a freshman All America American ended up getting drafted. You know, 401 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 6: it's just superstar kicker and one of my best friends. 402 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 6: But I had a really good kicker ahead of me, 403 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 6: and I was just kind of waiting my turn. So 404 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 6: that was kind of, you know, the cards that were dealt. 405 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 6: But I got a chance with Houston. I had a 406 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: local day with them, and then got a chance with 407 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 6: Houston in the preseason last year, and so really that 408 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 6: was it. It was kind of more questions of you know, 409 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 6: who is this kid more so than like actual interest. 410 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: In you know, obviously, you know you don't make Houston's team, 411 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: you get cut, You do you think football's over here? 412 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: You're you're thinking about life beyond it, right, you know. 413 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Obviously the brick salesman story from from last week and 414 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: everything else. 415 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: But then this opportunity comes. 416 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: And how did you you know, you fl kind of 417 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: fall into place there. 418 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was, I was working and I got a 419 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 6: random call from my agent and he was like, hey, 420 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 6: I think the Michigan team's gonna sign you. 421 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, like, okay, did did they. 422 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Have any affiliation with Houston or anything like that? 423 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: They didn't know of. 424 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just so random. 425 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: Craziest thing. 426 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I think that's such a you know, 427 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 6: testament to God's faithfulness and the way that he, you know, 428 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 6: can plan stuff out perfectly. And yeah, it was just 429 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: like a random day. I got a call and then 430 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 6: he was like, I'm gonna call you back in like 431 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 6: an hour, and I was at work. I was like, 432 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 6: how am I supposed to get any work done? And 433 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: then he called me back. He's like, hey, they're gonna 434 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 6: They're gonna sign you. And then after that it was 435 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 6: a whole waiting game because there was I didn't know, 436 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 6: there was some weird rules with being protected in that league, 437 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 6: and there's just some new stuff coming on, so I 438 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 6: didn't exactly know what being signed meant. 439 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I got signed and and then. 440 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 6: Ended up quinning the brick job and trained for the 441 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 6: training camp with the UFL. 442 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: And obviously had a successful you know UFL season, had 443 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: the big kicks, and and that leads to the signing 444 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: here and I want to take you back, Jake, just 445 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: to to training camp and you know, Michael gets hurt 446 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: and and just the faith that this organization showed in 447 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: you that you know, they didn't go quick sign a 448 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: bunch of guys or a veteran guy, like they were like, look, 449 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: we think this this Jake base kid has something and. 450 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: We're going to develop him and we're going to stick 451 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: with him. 452 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: What did that mean to you when when they kind 453 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: of had your back early on and like we just 454 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: talked about, you didn't have a ton of experience for 455 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: them to have that faith in you. 456 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was awesome. 457 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 6: Obviously, you know at this position, you know, having a 458 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 6: coach that believes in you can be you know, the 459 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 6: difference between you know, a nothing career and a long career, 460 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 6: and hopefully you know I'm the latter. But you know, 461 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 6: Coach FIV and Coach Campbell were so good to me 462 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 6: knowing that there was going to be struggles. Is as 463 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 6: I'm a young kicker, and and you know, didn't have 464 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 6: a ton of game experience, and you know they were 465 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 6: they were so instrumental and and still are and not 466 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 6: letting me something, letting me get down on myself, and 467 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 6: you know, not letting kicks get too big. 468 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 2: And I think they do such. 469 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 6: A good job of putting me in situa in practice 470 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 6: that that helped translate to the game. And you know, 471 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 6: I couldn't have asked for for better coaching staff, better 472 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 6: front office. You know, players around me, with Jack and 473 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 6: Hogan and Scott who was here during training camp. You know, 474 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 6: people that I've been there and done that, And I mean, 475 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 6: I really couldn't have asked for a better situation with 476 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 6: people around me. 477 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: People don't realize how key that whole operation is. You know, 478 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: they obviously see the kick and it's made or miss, 479 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: but that snap, that hold and and look, it was 480 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: something that that Jack, you know, admits he wasn't really 481 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: good at when he when he first got here, and 482 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: he's done a lot to improve that portion of his game. 483 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: Just how lucky you feel you are having you know, 484 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: guys that have been doing it for a while in 485 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Jack and then Hogan who comes here takes a veteran's job, 486 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: so you know he's got the talent and that operation 487 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: has really been seamless. 488 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, how Hogan is is a tremendous talent. 489 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 6: He's he's snapping the ball at a at a really 490 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 6: high level. And then and then Jack as far as 491 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 6: he is holding, he uh, you know, there's something so 492 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 6: big about a holder that cares about holding, and he does, 493 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 6: and you know, he wants to be good at it. 494 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 6: He wants to make sure that he's given me what 495 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 6: I want and that thing and that's just so big 496 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 6: for me, like, you know, being able to trust him 497 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: because I know he wants to do well and he's 498 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: he's already talented and he wants to get better. And 499 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just awesome to be around guys like that. 500 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: You hit the game winner fifteen seconds left. We have 501 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: to talk about the dance? 502 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: What was it? Where it come from? 503 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: And you're you you see him and Phip talked about 504 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: this Thursday too, which it which is funny. He's like 505 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: he's such a serious guy, like he's you know, he 506 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: he comes here, he puts his head down, he's, you. 507 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: Know, all about the work. 508 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: And to see him have that huge smile and kind 509 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: of pull out the dance like FIP loved it, and 510 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious where where it came from. 511 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: There's just these this family on Instagram they do that dance, 512 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: and I thought it was just gonna be a kind 513 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 6: of like a little thing between me and Jack, and 514 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 6: obviously it got caught on camera. I'm not a big celebrator, 515 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: like I like to be kind of calm. I don't know, 516 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm really not a big celebrator. That's like 517 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 6: the first time I've ever done something like that, So 518 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna keep that, you know, to minimum. 519 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 6: But no, it was a it was a fun moment 520 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 6: and obviously, you know, you can see the big smile 521 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 6: on my face and you know what it meant to 522 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 6: put that through and help this. 523 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: Are you nervous at all? 524 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: Or is it just have you You've done this so 525 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: much now. 526 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you're, you know. 527 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Six six games into the season. It's not like it's 528 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: your first game. You're you know, it was obviously one 529 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: of your first big, big kicks. But were there nerves 530 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: coming out? Is it hard not to be nervous or 531 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: was it just kind of business as usual? 532 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 6: Like, h I think there's I think there's nerves for 533 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 6: every kick, and I mean that's just kind of what 534 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 6: what what the job entails is making every kick the same. 535 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 6: And obviously that's so much easier said than done. But 536 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 6: you know, if you if you had to kick get 537 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: too big or one that's early in the game and 538 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. You know, you need to make sure 539 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 6: that every kicks the same in your mind and in 540 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 6: your routine. And I think that's something that I was 541 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 6: able to do a good job of. And then I 542 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 6: have you know, people around me, like we were just 543 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 6: talking about that that are so great in those situations 544 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 6: that that make me feel confident. 545 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: What's like, we're playing with Fip. 546 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite the coordinators that we've ever 547 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: had here. 548 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Just to listen to him. 549 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Talk the experiences that he's had, How instrumental has has 550 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: fit been for you, I. 551 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 6: Mean it's been huge, especially you know, he's had such 552 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 6: a good track record of kickers, and you know, just 553 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 6: meeting with him and him being able to, you know, 554 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 6: give me confidence, and the way that he sees the 555 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 6: game and you know, sees our position is huge. And 556 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: you know, like I said earlier, I couldn't. I really 557 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: couldn't have picked a better spot. And from the from 558 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 6: the second that I met with Pip, it was I mean, 559 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: I just wanted to be here, and I wanted to 560 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: play for him, and you know, he's He's one of 561 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: those coaches that you want to do good for because 562 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 6: you know he's so good to you and and he 563 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 6: works so hard, and so it's one of those things 564 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 6: where you know, I want to do good for him 565 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 6: because you know, I respect him so much and he's 566 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: helped me so much. 567 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: You had big kicks in the UFL, you had sixty yarders. 568 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Where's the line for you? Where does and Campbell know 569 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: that you know, okay, it's late in the game, it's 570 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: a tie game. Most guys can't probably make this kick. 571 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 3: But where do they feel comfortable? 572 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: I don't know, Baits going back to I don't know. 573 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 6: I think, you know, whatever they feel comfortable. 574 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: What you what's the longest you've ever had on the ground. 575 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: You know it doesn't have to be a hole, but 576 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: like you know, with with the with the ball holder 577 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: or something like that, do you have. 578 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. 579 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 6: I mean I really don't stretch it out too much. No, 580 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 6: like sometimes it gets fun curious. I mean sometimes like 581 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 6: during summer and stuff, it gets fun to back it 582 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 6: up a little bit. 583 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know. 584 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: NFL. 585 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let me do this NFL tying sixty six yard 586 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: field goal. You'd feel good about being able to have 587 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: a swing at it. 588 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 2: I would like to get a swing at that. Yeah, right, 589 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: I think I would. I would like to. 590 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you've had a swing at ten so far. 591 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: You've made all ten. You have been a terrific addition here, 592 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: obviously with the kicking twenty to twenty one on extra points. 593 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: The NFC Special Teams Player of the Week hit the 594 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: game winning kick last week. 595 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: You're doing a terrific job. 596 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: Keep it up, and thanks for joining the podcast. 597 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Thank you, thanks for having me. 598 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented 599 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: by Microsoft, and I am very happy to welcome in 600 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt. He does a great job with the Tennessee Titans. 601 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: The senior writer and editor over there. Jim, thanks for 602 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: taking the time. I appreciate it and. 603 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 7: I appreciate to having I hope you're doing well. 604 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, doing well. Obviously, two teams a little bit different situations. 605 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: I've obviously been in your shoes before. It's tough when 606 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: you get off to a start like that. And I 607 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: guess you know the one thing from a from a 608 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Lions guy to do, Tennessee guys is, look, this Lions 609 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: team started one and six a couple of. 610 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: Years ago and went on a run. 611 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: And you know we're one game away from making the playoffs. 612 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: So you know, teams can turn the things around. 613 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been around this one a long time. 614 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: You know that too a rough start. Well, let's start 615 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: with the breaking news of the week. You know, obviously 616 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you know, being traded to cam As a city. 617 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: Just how big of a loss is that for this 618 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans offense. 619 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 8: Well, you know, he's a loss just because we know 620 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 8: what kind of player DeAndre Hopkins is and what he's 621 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 8: done throughout his career. 622 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 7: I'll be honest with you. 623 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 8: I mean, this year, just the way things have going, 624 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 8: he's just hasn't been utilized that much. I don't know 625 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 8: that a lot is going to change as the Tit's 626 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 8: offense goes. I mean, we all know the career he's had, 627 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 8: but you look at the stats from this year. Uh, 628 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 8: DeAndre Hopkins has you know, fifteen catches for one hundred 629 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 8: and seventy three yards and one touchdown. He had one 630 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 8: catch for minus two last week and most weeks he's 631 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 8: been pretty invisible, pretty invisible. So Chiefs clearly getting a 632 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 8: good player and DeAndre Hopkins he just wasn't being utilized 633 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 8: here that much. So I don't know that you're going 634 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 8: to see a huge difference in the offense. They tried 635 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 8: to get Calvin Ridley on track, that hasn't happened. They 636 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 8: really the whole passing game is has struggled getting on track. 637 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 8: And this make things difficult because when de Andre Hopkins 638 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 8: is out there, we know that changes things around him. 639 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 8: So be on even more guys to kind of do 640 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 8: more as the Titans try to get this thing turned around. 641 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously that passing human life so heavily on the 642 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: quarterback position. 643 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: Jim and Will. 644 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: Levis dealing with a shoulder injury. Do you have a 645 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: sense of who will be Sunday in Detroit? Will be 646 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Will it be Will Levis or is that 647 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: still kind of yet to be determined. 648 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Wednesday's practice is gonna tell me a lot, 649 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 8: because you know, a lot of this is hinges on 650 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 8: Will and how he feels and and and how he looks, 651 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 8: and it's it's a tough spot because he needs rest. 652 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: I mean, ron Kyllahan said it. Will has said it. 653 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 8: He needs rest, but they wanted to play, and they 654 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 8: wanted to play at a high level, and you can't 655 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 8: rest him during the course of the week and expecting 656 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 8: to go out there and Sunday you play at high level. 657 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 8: He has struggled this season. He needs to play. They 658 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 8: need to find out what they have in him. That's 659 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 8: what the season, a lot of this season was going 660 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 8: to be about for the Titans. You know, we're six 661 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 8: games in. He's played five of them. He's turned the 662 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 8: ball over ten timess, seven touch seven interceptions. 663 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 7: Three fumbles. 664 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 8: They want to see him work through some of that 665 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 8: and now he's working through a shoulder, so we'll see. 666 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 8: I think as the week goes on, we'll have a 667 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 8: better idea. You know, you get those clues from the 668 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 8: practice report if the guy's limited and how things are trending. 669 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 8: Last week, it became very clear when he was limited 670 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 8: full and then back the limited that they were going 671 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 8: with Mason Rudolph and just depending on how this week goes, 672 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 8: we'll probably have some pretty good ideas by the end 673 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 8: of the week. 674 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, you've highlighted the struggles offensively, but obviously you 675 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: look at the record at one in five, But when 676 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I look at this team, I don't see a one 677 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: in five defense over there, Jim. I mean, the defense 678 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: has really really played well. I think their first in 679 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: overall defense. I think their top ten in the league 680 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: in passing and rush defense, and I think their top 681 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: five on third downs. That that unit has really been 682 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: good despite the record. 683 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 8: Right, I think so other than last week in Buffalo, 684 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 8: I think it kind of bsentally gave way. And I 685 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 8: think you know, you see that happen sometimes when you 686 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 8: when you get an offense, you just can't countle. 687 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 7: On doing much. 688 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 8: Once you'll reach a certain certain level in the point 689 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 8: in the game. I'm sure some of those guys think, well, 690 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 8: this game is over. I'm just kind of halfway kidding 691 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 8: on that, but that's the reality. I mean, you look 692 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 8: at what the Titans they've done offensive this year. They've 693 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 8: scored seventeen points, seventeen points, fourteen points. They had the 694 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 8: one game against the Dolphins when they scored thirty one, 695 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 8: but then it was seventeen points and ten points. I mean, 696 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 8: you're just not you know, just not getting much production offensively. 697 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 8: So the defense is having to play close to perfect 698 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 8: football to give them a chance. And you know, this 699 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 8: game kind of came off the rails against Buffalo in 700 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 8: the second half and then that unit pretty much gave 701 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 8: way and didn't get a stop in the second half. 702 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 7: Buffalo didn't punt. 703 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 8: So yeah, that R. Wilson really good defensive coordinators, players 704 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 8: really like him. They've got some really good talent on defense. Uh, 705 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 8: but it's not it's not a perfect group either. I mean, uh, 706 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 8: you know, they're not great in turnovers. They're not getting 707 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 8: critical stops when they need to. You know, there have 708 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 8: been some times in games this season where the Titans 709 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 8: have had leads and they need the defense to get 710 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 8: a stop at a key time and they haven't done it. 711 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 8: So no one deserves any ribbons around here when you're 712 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 8: one and five and uh, that's offense defense. 713 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 7: Special teams. 714 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Obviously unfamiliar opponents don't see the Tennessee Titans that often. 715 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: Jim Who's maybe a player that that's you know, caught 716 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: your eye or that could catch Lions fans eyes maybe 717 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: that they don't know real well. It's not that national name, 718 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: but but a guy that that that you like and 719 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: is playing pretty well obviously despite the record. 720 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 8: A couple of guys to keep it eye on. I mean, 721 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 8: Tony Poler is a tough back. Everybody knows him. He's 722 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 8: been in the league for a while and has some 723 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 8: six in Dallas. He's not Derrick Henry. You know that 724 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 8: that's and we all know Derrick Kennerys could continuing to 725 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 8: chug along in Baltimore. But Tony Pollard's has really run 726 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 8: the ball well, and he's a tough runner, and he's 727 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 8: given this team something on offense when it hasn't. 728 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 7: Had a lot around him. 729 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 8: So I'd expect to see a lot of Tony Pollard 730 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 8: on Sunday and lines fans will see a guy who 731 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 8: who who will get some tough yards. 732 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 7: Uh. 733 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 8: You know, I think defensively, Uh, Savandre Sweat is going 734 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 8: to be a really good player. 735 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 7: The big nose. 736 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 8: Nose tackles in the middle of that line of the 737 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 8: second round pick out of Texas. 738 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 7: Uh, he's gonna be a force. 739 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 8: You know, he's he's he's had his moments up and 740 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 8: down as far as being disruptive and making an impact. 741 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 8: But big number ninety three is a guy to keep 742 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 8: an eye on. Jarvis Brown. He's getting a chance to 743 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 8: play a little bit because chadobea woozy's on our and 744 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 8: Jarvis browny, you know, the draft pick cornerback out of 745 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 8: little is a feisty, scrappy corner who will be competing 746 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 8: snapping and snap out those those are a couple of 747 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 8: young guys on defense and then a veteran veteran on offense. 748 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 7: And then this is kind of a new team. 749 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 8: Offense will be a new identity with Brian Callahan as 750 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 8: head coach. 751 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 7: So much new. 752 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 8: I mentioned Derrick Henry's not here anymore now, DeAndre Hopkins 753 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 8: didn't gonna be here anymore, and and so they're still 754 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 8: trying to find their way. J C. Latham, first round 755 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 8: pick left tackle out of Alabama, has probably been the best, 756 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 8: if not the second best player on the offensive line. 757 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: I think he'll continue to get better and then we'll see, 758 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 8: you know, fight's got a challenge. I mean, this is 759 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 8: the Lots will be the best team they faced this 760 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 8: year for sure, and they're coming off the game and 761 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 8: they lost thirty four to ten. 762 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a tough environment at Ford Field. 763 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, the Detroit's been away for a couple of weeks, 764 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: so those fans will be excited to have their team back. 765 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: They'll be loud. 766 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: It's one of the tougher places to play in this league. 767 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: And obviously the Lions offense in Jared Goff, is playing 768 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: at elite level right now, so you know that, I 769 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: think that'll be a good matchup between you know, Tennessee's 770 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: defense and this potent Lions offense. But maybe finally, Jim, 771 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: how does Tennessee come into Detroit Sunday and walk out 772 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: with their second win? 773 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: How do you see that possible? 774 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: What has to happen for Tennessee to get that win Sunday? 775 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 7: Well, they got to score points. I mentioned the offensive struggles. 776 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 8: I mean, you're not gonna win many games when you're 777 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 8: scoring on the team, certainly not against the Lions, who 778 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 8: are gonna score. 779 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 7: So they got to get things solved. 780 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 8: And I don't know that they're going to solve it, 781 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 8: but they got to have a breakthrough game on offense 782 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 8: to give themselves a chance. They got to create turnovers. 783 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 8: That's one thing this team is not done is create turnovers. 784 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 8: Other teams have made game changing plays against them. The Titans, 785 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 8: you know, have not been doing that. So they're gonna 786 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 8: have to make some plays on defense that gives them 787 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 8: a ball in good field position, and then you know, 788 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 8: can't avoid you have to avoid mistakes on special teams. 789 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 8: That's that's been another area for this team that's cost them. 790 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 8: You know, they know the game in Chicago in Week one, 791 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 8: Titans led that game seventeen to nothing, and it turned 792 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 8: because they got a punt block that went for a 793 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 8: touchdown and the momentum went straight to the Bears. Had 794 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 8: another punt block the following week. They've had trouble with 795 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 8: you know, protection, So they better clean it up on 796 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 8: special teams, better get some turnovers on defense, and better 797 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 8: find a way to score some points. That's the only 798 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 8: way they're gonna have a chance to hang in this 799 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 8: game and have a chance. 800 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 7: To win going on the fourth quarter. 801 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 8: And then kis to kiss lines on a bad day, 802 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 8: because the lines don't have a lot of bad days. 803 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 8: It's a that's a really good team that knows how 804 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 8: to win, and this team hadn't figured out how to 805 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 8: do that. 806 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: Yet Yeah, you know, it's a young team. It's a 807 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a young coach. We dealt with it 808 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: when when Dan came here a couple of years ago. 809 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: It just takes time. Sometimes you've got to get your 810 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: guys and you've got to get your culture built and 811 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: the way you're gonna win football games. And you guys 812 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: are still figuring out there at Tennessee. We've been through 813 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: it too. I know it's tough, but I am looking 814 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you on Sunday. Jim Wyatt, one of 815 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: the best in the business. I appreciate you taking the 816 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: time and we will see you on Sunday, my friend 817 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 7: Okay, Tim, I appreciate your good luck to you.