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Speaker 1: Prethee.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Post Run High.

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Speaker 1: Hello, thank you happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have you.

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Speaker 3: For everybody listening, Prithy and I just came from treadmill show.

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Speaker 3: We ran a little under three miles. We're feeling good

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Speaker 3: and doorphins are flowing. How are you feeling post I run?

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Speaker 1: Actually feeling really good. That woke me up. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's what I needed.

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Speaker 2: For a context for everybody listening.

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Speaker 3: Prethy is a content creator runner, lives in New York,

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Speaker 3: has been here for ten years, similar to me.

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Speaker 2: We both went to college here.

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Speaker 3: And Prethie and I met through the content world of running.

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Speaker 2: We're both runners.

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Speaker 3: We love documenting our running journeys online. How else would

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Speaker 3: you introduce yourself?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not it. Lived in New York for a while,

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Speaker 1: have a fun community of friends and life and sport

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Speaker 1: and fitness. Yeah that's pretty good summary.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, let's use this podcast to kind of unpack everything

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Speaker 3: about you.

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Speaker 2: Take us back, where'd you grow up? So?

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Maryland outside of DC, so also

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Speaker 1: kind of city, like close enough to a big city

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Speaker 1: that I got to experience what a metropolitan lifestyle kind

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Speaker 1: of feels. Like, but when I graduated from college, I

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Speaker 1: just really wanted to get out of Maryland. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I love my family, I love it here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: so thankful for the community, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: like wanted like I had always been someone who wanted

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Speaker 1: to travel and see the world, and like even my

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Speaker 1: parents were like, you like always wanted to go and

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Speaker 1: be independent, Like that's how my family has always seen me.

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Speaker 1: And when I started applying to colleges, I honestly just

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Speaker 1: applied to like every school that I knew, which was

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Speaker 1: like randomly a bunch of IVY leagues, which my GPA

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Speaker 1: was never like high enough NYU, and then a handful

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Speaker 1: of liberal arts colleges, and I like wanted to pursue

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Speaker 1: international law, which was very random, but at the time

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Speaker 1: it was like a path that I felt was a

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Speaker 1: way of like giving back to the community and like

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Speaker 1: doing something bigger than myself, which I think is ultimately

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Speaker 1: what I was looking for in my life. So I

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Speaker 1: applied to a bunch of liberal arts colleges n YU,

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Speaker 1: and then all the IVY leagues didn't get into any

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Speaker 1: of the IVY leagues got into like almost all the

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Speaker 1: liberal arts colleges that I applied to and then also

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Speaker 1: randomly got into NYU and that, which is a great school.

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing school. When I got in, my parents

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Speaker 1: were like, oh my god. Like my brother's friends sat

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Speaker 1: me down and were like, we don't know how you

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Speaker 1: got in, but you have to go.

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Speaker 3: But I love this because you were out here shotgunning

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Speaker 3: the ivys, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, Noyu is a great place to land.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what made you want to just apply to the

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Speaker 3: Ivy League schools where you like, well, let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I think it was just like the like pressure of

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Speaker 1: that's what was kind of expected of me growing up,

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Speaker 1: and I was but I was like, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Wait, let's unpack that. Because so for context, both my

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Speaker 3: brothers went to Yale. I was the complete opposite.

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Speaker 2: I was like the artsy kid in the family.

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Speaker 1: That was literally the age.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so ye, let's unpack this.

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Speaker 3: So talk to me because I feel like we have

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Speaker 3: a lot in common here a way, but I feel

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Speaker 3: like your family might have pushed academics even more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about this.

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Speaker 3: And I'm saying that based on what we talked about

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Speaker 3: on the Treadmill show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, my parents definitely were very much focused on studies,

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Speaker 1: I think, especially in the immigrant Brown community. Like my

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Speaker 2: And your parents moved here from India.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad moved here in the eighties. It's actually

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Speaker 1: a crazy story. He was a marine biologist and he

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Speaker 1: for like the PhD wait, I love any time?

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Speaker 2: Does it all have a name?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 3: what if there is a chance that has a name?

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Speaker 4: And because shout out so crazy, Oh, okay, continue, But

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Speaker 4: that dissertation kind of like went viral for that time period,

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Speaker 1: And when he was in the US, he became friends

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Speaker 1: and she had connections with the Smithsonian Museum. So she

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Speaker 1: got my dad a job at the Smithsonian in DC,

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Speaker 2: Wait, that's so cool.

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Speaker 3: And just to ask kind of a question off of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so cool. Yeah, I have pictures I

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Speaker 1: can send them to you after him like in the

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Speaker 1: scuba equipment. Actually this is a total side note, but

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Speaker 1: when he did the scuba diving, he was a vegetarian

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Speaker 1: my first marathon, I had been vegetarian for like twelve years,

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Speaker 1: followers on TikTok are like, you don't need to eat

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Speaker 1: but like, pretty sure I have a genetic predisposition from

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Speaker 1: through something similar, like he even is like yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, blame it. Blame it on him. You know, but

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Speaker 2: I get that because it's so true.

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Speaker 3: It's like, when you are going through something that's so

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Speaker 3: my best? Like how am I going to get my

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And fuel and fuel yeah, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 3: You can't be a long distance runner and not fuel

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Speaker 3: things that work for you. Yeah, while being vetch Harryan

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of professional athletes that are

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Speaker 1: So and it works really well for them. Yeah, depends

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Speaker 1: So he was a marine biologist and he ends up

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Speaker 1: moving to the US. Yeah, what about your mom? So

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Speaker 1: then my dad became a part of this like Indian

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Speaker 2: I love that so much.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we come home, it's like they like for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: They're the families that I'm going to be hanging.

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Speaker 3: Out with, you know, and in your family, is it

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Speaker 3: just you and your twin? Yeah, Okay, that's so cute.

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Speaker 3: Frithie and I are both twins. Yeah, both fraternal boy twins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, such a small world. Also, that's so crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have the same heart rate throughout our

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Speaker 1: It was weird. We're basically the same. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 1: So my mom, her best friend, was cousins with one

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Speaker 2: Wait. I love that. So they just had a connection

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, that's kind of nice because that's like it's

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Speaker 1: The first time they met was like when they were

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they came back. So like my mom

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear about just we're side questing for here,

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Speaker 3: but goes to India to get married to your dad

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Speaker 3: after really starting their relationship through phone calls having met

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Speaker 3: You know, I know what you said later later within

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Speaker 1: My parents actually, surprisingly enough, don't put any pressure on

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Speaker 1: me when it comes to relationships, like they within our

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Speaker 1: women within our community. But they like really don't put

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Speaker 1: that she was going to build. And I think asking

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Speaker 1: that if anybody is like a lot. Yeah, But I

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Speaker 1: think she also was so excited about the opportunity that

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Speaker 2: And like to get married and.

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Speaker 1: To get married and to move to the U, like

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Speaker 3: Did she say when she met your dad in India

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Speaker 1: It's funny because she always jokes that when she got

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Speaker 1: friends got initiated into a frat and he wanted to

442
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Speaker 1: paint his paddle like with the Versace print. Yeah, so

443
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: he like paid me to do that. For him my

444
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: freshman year, and like I had so much more fun

445
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Speaker 1: doing that than like any course that I did that right, you.

446
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Speaker 2: Know, So like did you know growing up you were

447
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Speaker 2: good at art?

448
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: Like that's something.

449
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Speaker 3: So you did know that, Yeah, okay, but it just

450
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Speaker 3: wasn't what you were giving like all of your time.

451
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Speaker 1: Enother two because like my parents weren't. They didn't see

452
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Speaker 1: art as a career path. My dad is actually a

453
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Speaker 1: really good artist. He drew all the figures for his

454
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: marine biology courses. So like we have these really gorgeous

455
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: detailed pictures like drawings of fish at home that he

456
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: like made. I want to get one tattoo.

457
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Speaker 3: On me at some point, But like how many tattoos

458
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Speaker 3: you have? That's a good question, like a lot? Yeah,

459
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Speaker 3: when did you get your first tattoo?

460
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Speaker 1: You've seen it the whole like sleeve?

461
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Speaker 2: No I haven't.

462
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Speaker 1: I feel like at like the retreat, did.

463
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Speaker 2: I tell you about it?

464
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Speaker 1: No?

465
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Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen it. You have a sleeve,

466
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Speaker 3: I have, like a whole sleeve. I didn't know that.

467
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Speaker 3: What you know, I swear to God, like somebody will

468
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: have tattoos all over their hands and all over their

469
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: arms and then They'll say to me, like thinking about

470
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Speaker 3: getting this new tattoo, and I'm like, wait, you've tattoos

471
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Speaker 3: And they're like heath, They're literally all over my fingers,

472
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know how, but I just

473
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: don't notice it, yeah, or like I notice it and

474
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Speaker 3: I don't at the same time, I don't know what

475
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: it is. Sometimes I just feel like I'm not a

476
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Speaker 3: very observant person.

477
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Speaker 1: No, I get that. I'm like, I think a lot

478
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: of people don't expect it, so they don't like register.

479
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's like a whole sleeve under here.

480
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Speaker 3: Are you the type of person that gets a tattoo

481
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Speaker 3: and there has to be like something meaningful to it?

482
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Speaker 2: Or will you just like a cool design and get

483
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Speaker 2: it on your arm?

484
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Speaker 1: Kind of a mix, Like there are definitely some that

485
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: are just like there's no meaning, but there's like most

486
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: of them have meaning the bigger pieces. I try to

487
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Speaker 1: make sure the bigger ones are like meaningful, and then

488
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Speaker 1: everything else is just kind of like filler.

489
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Speaker 3: Okay, we talked about how you have a conservative family. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: how did they feel about you getting tattoos?

491
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Speaker 1: I have to ask so my parents know they exist.

492
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if my dad fully know as they exist.

493
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Speaker 1: I've never had this conversation with him, so I and

494
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Speaker 1: why poke the beast, you know, like there's no reason

495
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Speaker 1: to like bring it up. My mom has brought it up,

496
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: like she knows, and I just like have come to

497
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: a place with her where I'm like, yeah, you can know.

498
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 1: You don't ever have to see them. Yeah, they're going

499
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: to upset you. You don't ever have to see them, right,

500
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like our middle round.

501
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Speaker 3: Post college, you ended up working in social media marketing,

502
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: and you go from working in social media marketing for

503
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Speaker 3: brands with businesses to then building your own personal brand.

504
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: Talk to us about that transition and what made you

505
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: finally make the jump and say like fuck it, I'm

506
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: going full time and doing this myself.

507
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Speaker 1: Whenever I was in my internship era, I also was

508
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: doing photography in the city, so I did like basically,

509
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: I just picked up a camera and started taking pictures

510
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: of my friends and that started to do well on Instagram,

511
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Speaker 1: and I started to DM influencers. At the time, they

512
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: weren't even called influencers yet, they were called like Instagram bloggers.

513
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: And I started building connections with some girls. One of

514
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: them worked for Pop Sugar at the time. I don't

515
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: even think Pop Sugar exists anymore.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but I know exactly what you're

517
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: talking about. It was like one of.

518
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Those online magazine. Yeah, And I used to do shoots

519
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: with her pretty consistently, and she invited me to like

520
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: New York Fashion Week and like a bunch of brand events,

521
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: and I met a few other girls through that and

522
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: basically built a whole network of influencers who I was

523
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: doing photo shoots for through the city and I was

524
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Speaker 1: making like side money from it. And I remember just

525
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: like being so enamored by the influencer culture at the

526
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Speaker 1: time and being like, Wow, this is so cool and

527
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Speaker 1: like fashion Week and seeing everybody walk and like just

528
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Speaker 1: the way they were treated and like everything. I was like, whoa,

529
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: this is like such a cool world. And I was like, Okay,

530
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Speaker 1: I definitely want to do social media marketing because I

531
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Speaker 1: want to stay close to this space. So when I graduated,

532
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: I ended up applying to like a bunch of social

533
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Speaker 1: media marketing agencies. And it's funny, like when you were saying,

534
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: n Yu's a good school, Like one of the agencies

535
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Speaker 1: I went into for an interview. The CEO didn't even

536
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Speaker 1: like look at my qualifications. He saw and YU on

537
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Speaker 1: my resume and was like, okay, yeah, let's let's give

538
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Speaker 1: you a test run.

539
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so fair and YU is such a

540
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: good school. Yeah, it's a very hard school to get into,

541
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Speaker 3: you know, so it's impressive in its own right just

542
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: to get into NYU, you know, and that obviously have

543
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Speaker 3: all the internships and really make the most out of

544
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Speaker 3: your time.

545
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Speaker 2: There is the other really impressive part about think what

546
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Speaker 2: you did.

547
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Speaker 1: But okay, I think it's like one of those things

548
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: you don't realize at the time, especially at a young age,

549
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: like how much college really like impacts that first job

550
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: and how much that first job can really shape the

551
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: rest of your career. Because that's what really happened for

552
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: me is being at that social media agency and being

553
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: exposed to so many different brands across different verticals from

554
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: like hospitality to food and beverage. It like really taught

555
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Speaker 1: me about how brands use social media to communicate to

556
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Speaker 1: their customers across different target audiences and all of the spaces.

557
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Speaker 3: What do you think about having been in the world

558
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: of social media for so long and really seeing because

559
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: I feel like over the past even like five years,

560
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: it's amazing how much social media has changed and evolved

561
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: and gotten even bigger. So I'm curious, like having been

562
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: working in it for a good chunk of time now,

563
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: like what are your thoughts on how it's evolved and

564
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: what do you think is come to come with social media?

565
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Speaker 1: It's a great question. I think there's a bunch of

566
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: ways that's evolved, right, Like we see like the evolution

567
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: from Facebook to Instagram to TikTok. My career has kind

568
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: of been through that evolution and watching these new platforms

569
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: come onto the scene and understanding how brands can use

570
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Speaker 1: them for communicating their messages on a to their target

571
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: audience and really making them work for them. But I

572
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: think also on a cultural and social level, there's like

573
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Speaker 1: a whole other layer that I see personally from seeing

574
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Speaker 1: the influencer industry from like early on in twenty sixteen

575
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: to now. Like back then when I was doing those

576
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: photo shoots, I'd never imagine myself being one of the

577
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Speaker 1: people invited to one of those events and to actually

578
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: like say I was an influencer, I like couldn't see

579
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Speaker 1: myself in those spaces because I never really saw people

580
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Speaker 1: who did the things that I did or who looked

581
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: like me in those spaces. It was like always a

582
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Speaker 1: very specific kind of like influencer who was invited to those.

583
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Speaker 3: And it was so different at that time too, like

584
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Speaker 3: if I could remember, like content creators back then, it

585
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: was like the perfect photos, yeah, the perfect filter on

586
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: the photos, the perfect esthetic outfit wise, and I feel

587
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: the same as you, or it was like the professional athletes, right.

588
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Speaker 3: Like I remember taking like a PR class and the

589
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: teacher of the class was this guy that worked at Ketchum,

590
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Speaker 3: which is a big PR agency, and he would bring

591
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Speaker 3: in like people to speak at the class for basically

592
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Speaker 3: every class.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is a nice job, you just

594
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: bring someone into do it. But anyways, but anyways, he brought.

595
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Speaker 3: This one woman in that worked in influencer marketing at Ketchum,

596
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: and I remember it just being all like the lifestyle

597
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: creators are just described and then also like the professional

598
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: chefs and blah blah blah, and I felt the same way.

599
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a hard this is an amazing industry.

600
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: It's so cool, but such a challenge to get into it.

601
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Speaker 1: And I think with like the genesis of a platform

602
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: like TikTok that really like allowed and like celebrated authenticity

603
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: and people all being different and having different walks of

604
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: life and doing different things, but all those things being interesting. Like,

605
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Speaker 1: I feel like fitness creators now have such a big

606
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: platform and such a big voice compared to back then,

607
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: because people are interested not only in like what you're wearing,

608
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Speaker 1: but who you are and what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I also feel like TikTok and tell me if you

610
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: feel this too, has allowed and I feel like you

611
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: and I are similar in like the running content that

612
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Speaker 3: we create in the sense that like we just want

613
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: to show that running and fitness doesn't have to be

614
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Speaker 3: so intense. It can be fun. It can be an adventure.

615
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Speaker 3: When you're in New York City running around, like it's

616
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: always an adventure. You can run the Tompkins Square Park

617
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Speaker 3: and get the Chief Pree babe. But I feel like

618
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Speaker 3: TikTok has kind of opened the door for that type

619
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Speaker 3: of fitness content because I remember, like back in the

620
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Speaker 3: day on Instagram it was like, remember, like Kayla, it's science,

621
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Speaker 3: Who's amazing. I loved her workouts, but that was a

622
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Speaker 3: very intense kind of yeah, you have to work out

623
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Speaker 3: a certain way, and you have to look a certain way,

624
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Speaker 3: and it's all about getting your body to look x whatever.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like TikTok has really opened, exactly we said,

626
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: the door within the fitness community too, to being more

627
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Speaker 3: authentic and showing that, like, you don't have to be

628
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Speaker 3: so intense to be somebody that like talks about fitness

629
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Speaker 3: and works out.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I mean. Yeah, Like my running

631
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: videos aren't about like being the fastest or the best

632
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Speaker 1: at running. It's just about that is my run and

633
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Speaker 1: this is how it felt and it was really fun. Yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: and I'd like to share it with you guys.

635
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Speaker 3: At what point did you then make the switch from

636
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Speaker 3: working on social media to personal brand.

637
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Speaker 1: Is also around the same time TikTok came onto the scene,

638
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: there was a brand that I was working for and

639
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: they really wanted to make TikTok work for them. And

640
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: actually the first time that I downloaded and created my

641
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: own TikTok was because I was working for a brand

642
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: that I was not the target demographic for at all.

643
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: They were a men's hair loss startup. Okay, well, I

644
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: was like, I know, I can't be the face of

645
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: this brand, like, there's absolutely no way I don't want

646
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: to be the face of this brand, Okay, But I

647
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: knew we had to figure out how to make TikTok

648
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: work for us to stay culturally relevant. So I was like, Okay,

649
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: let me create my own account and just start doing

650
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the things that other people seemed to be doing. And

651
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: at the time, it happened to be like a lot

652
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: of like dance trends or like little things like that.

653
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Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, this is interesting, and that

654
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of made me start using the tools in the

655
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Speaker 1: platform a little bit. And then after that role, I

656
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: moved on to like a food and beverage industry client,

657
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: and they were a startup and the CEO gave me

658
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Speaker 1: budget to hire two interns, and those interns I learned

659
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Speaker 1: so much from and they really showed me kind of

660
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: what video production in terms of like TikTok as gen

661
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Z looks like. I think I always thought I had

662
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Speaker 1: a grasp of it, but like the younger generation really

663
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: knows a lot more about technology.

664
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Speaker 3: With every millennial cusper, there's a gen Z count part

665
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Speaker 3: like I need.

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Speaker 1: Gen Z jen alfha, Like they're amazing. I know, I

667
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: want to make friends with someone in gen Alfha. Now

668
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need a Genalfha.

669
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Speaker 3: I'm like, where are they go to the Lower East Side.

670
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Speaker 1: But I learned kind of a little bit about what's trending,

671
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: how to film properly, and started applying that to my

672
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: own content still, because as much as I was creating

673
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: content for this brand, I still enjoyed doing my own

674
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: thing and like keeping up my own channels and testing

675
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: things out there before I posted it on the brand account.

676
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: And actually, funny enough, one of the videos I made

677
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: for the brand was an early version of my vlogs

678
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: and it totally bombed, like it did not perform well

679
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: for the brand at all. But then when I started

680
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: doing my own thing, I was just kind of like,

681
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I can do that concept but better,

682
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and I just doubled down on this like idea of

683
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: this like vlog with the transitions that makes it feel

684
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: My inspo behind it was do you remember Birdman? Everybody

685
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: was like raving about it because it was like a

686
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: one shot film. Okay, oh, that was kind of the

687
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: inspo behind the like flip vlogs was to make it

688
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: feel like a music video that was like taken in

689
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: one shot because the transitions make it so seamless.

690
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: So and for anybody listening, you need to go right

691
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: now and pull out your phone and go to TikTok

692
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 3: and just look at prethe's videos because then you'll really

693
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: understand what she's talking about. Like, your transition style is

694
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: so sick.

695
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that a lot. It took true

696
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: a long time to get to like where I am today,

697
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's still that perfect.

698
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: It like throws me sometimes the transitions.

699
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, yeah, that feels good. I'm like, okay, cool,

700
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: I'm doing it right and it's fun. Then I made

701
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: my style and it went viral, and I applied it

702
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: to running too, and then that went even more viral,

703
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: and I actually, twenty twenty three, I applied to get

704
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Speaker 1: into the New York City Marathon through the lottery and

705
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I didn't get in and I was super bommed. And

706
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: then after my first running video went viral, New Balance

707
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: reached out to me and invited me to run with them.

708
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool.

709
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Speaker 1: And that was my first ever marathon, which I bombed.

710
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Speaker 3: The first time I read the New York City Marathon,

711
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: I hit the wall at mile eighteen. So hard, and

712
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: it was like raining this year when I ran it,

713
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: I was in college. I was like training for the

714
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: whole thing on treadmills, which was like just silly. Because

715
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: I lived right next to Central Park, it was like.

716
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Speaker 2: What are you doing? You know? Yeah, And oh my god,

717
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: I remember it being so tough.

718
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't realize how tough it is

719
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, twenty six miles, but then you realize,

720
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: twenty six miles, all uphill, across bridges.

721
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: Brutal, so brutal, so brutal.

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Speaker 1: I've heard New York apparently is one of the like

723
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: it's like the second toughest, if not the toughest, of

724
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: all the world majors.

725
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: It's definitely not a qualifying race. Yeah.

726
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Speaker 3: I remember being so mad at myself the last time

727
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: I ran it. I ran it for the last time

728
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, and I was in such good shape,

729
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: like I felt like I could have done it faster

730
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: than I did it in and I had so many

731
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: people say to me. They were like, you should have

732
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: just ran like a qualifying race, like a couple of

733
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Speaker 3: weeks before doing the New York City Marathon, you know,

734
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Speaker 3: And now I like go back, and I'm like maybe

735
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Speaker 3: next time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

737
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: New York City Marathon is just so fun. I'm like

738
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: not one of those people that can do multiple marathons

739
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: in a row. I feel like that's just a lot

740
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: on the knees. Did you do Chicago right before in

741
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: New York?

742
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: No, but I applied for both Chicago and Berlin lotteries. Yeah, yeah,

743
00:35:50,800 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: that's for twenty twenty five. But yeah, okay, let's talk

744
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: about your running career because I think it's so cool

745
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: that you got into You were into running during college,

746
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: you had a go to route that you loved doing.

747
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: You graduated, you got into kickboxing, and then you started running.

748
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Right.

749
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I graduated college, I stopped taking care of myself,

750
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: picked up kickboxing, and it was really therapeutic. But also

751
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: like I think I grew up like not really thinking

752
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: of myself as powerful, like always like I my parents

753
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: always joke I was the princess of the household. My

754
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: dad and my mom and my brother were like really

755
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: take care of me and look after me, and I like,

756
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: my brother is the sweetest person and like opens the

757
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: doors when me and my mom are like going into

758
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: the car, and like things like that. So like I've

759
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I have been treated like a princess my like most

760
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: of my life, and I'm so thankful for that. But

761
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: because of that, like I just never really thought of

762
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: myself as like fear or like strong, and I think

763
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: kickboxing really showed me, like you can be strong. It's

764
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: something you build. It's not something that you're born with.

765
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean for some people, yes they're naturally athletic,

766
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: they're naturally strong, but like.

767
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: Even if you're naturally athletic, like that's a whole new thing.

768
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can really learn the skills and the moves

769
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: and yeah, how to make it all work and have

770
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the right form. Yeah, And once you start learning those

771
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: things and you feel it click, it's just so empowering.

772
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: Like I started to feel my body feel stronger too,

773
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, this feels so good, Like

774
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to stop. And like once the pandemic hit,

775
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: my gym at the time shut down and a lot

776
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: of gyms in the city did, so there wasn't really

777
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: access to places to continue the Muay Thai training, and

778
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Speaker 1: I was like.

779
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: I love that.

780
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, oh, let me try running again,

781
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: because I remember when I was running feeling a similar

782
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of high of like yeah, like just like accomplishing something,

783
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So I started running. I remember the

784
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: first time that I started running, when I picked it

785
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: back up. I ran from my apartment in Bushwick to

786
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: the Williamsburg Waterfront and it was the toughest run ever.

787
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I was like dying. It was like two point five

788
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: miles and I took a picture of the bridge when

789
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I got there because I was like, I felt so

790
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: accomplished in myself for doing that. Yeah, And it's funny

791
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: to think about that now because my favorite place to

792
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: run in the entirety of New York City is Williamsburg Bridge.

793
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: And then my brother saw my Strava encouraged me to

794
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: do with the Philly Half, and I was hooked after

795
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: my first race.

796
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: So your running journey really picked up post college right

797
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: as an adult, which I think is amazing and I

798
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: think for everybody listening, running is something that you can

799
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: get into at any stage in life. And I feel

800
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Speaker 3: I see so many amazing runners, Like one of the

801
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 3: best runners that I've ever ran with, shout out Back Scenttry.

802
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: She's a peloton instructor. She got into running at twenty seven.

803
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: Wow, and like that is so impressive to me, and

804
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: it just shows and she's like a sub three marathon

805
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: or she's amazing, you know. And you don't have to

806
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: become be a sub three marathon to be marathon or

807
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: to be a runner. But I'm curious for everybody listening,

808
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: what are your tips for getting into running and sticking

809
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: with it.

810
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: For me, what's really helped is having a fire playlist,

811
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Like every song that you absolutely love, just put it

812
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: all in one playlist. It doesn't even have to matter

813
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: if they match, if they're the same vibe. You can

814
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: go from Gracie Abrams to Tyler the Creator. No one's

815
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: going to judge you because it's just for you. Whatever

816
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: gets you hype in the morning, put that on and

817
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: it Like, for me personally, that's really what motivates me

818
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: to get out there.

819
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to have more music partnerships.

820
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: Right, you're creative, you love social media, marketing, et cetera.

821
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: Art, but you also love music.

822
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

823
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: I actually grew up playing, Like I think there was

824
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: a point in my life where I was playing like

825
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: six instruments.

826
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like what instruments?

827
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Piano, violin, view, guitar, ukulele.

828
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: That is so impressive.

829
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: I played flute for a hot second.

830
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have a big musical background. That's insane.

831
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I have a violin in my apartment and when my

832
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: friends get me drunk enough and we go home.

833
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: Only wait, so you complete the violence, like one of

834
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 3: the hardest instruments to play.

835
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Speaker 2: I'm literally so shook right now. Violence my favorite. I

836
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: need you fucking jamming on the violin right now. Why

837
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: did I know this? This is so cool.

838
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: My mom really loves music and it was something that

839
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: she wished she could have learned growing up. So as

840
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: soon like literally like I think we were like four

841
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: when we started learning the piano, and yeah, like my

842
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: mom was just like drilled it into us. Which like

843
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: when I was like a child, I hated learning instruments.

844
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Speaker 1: But then like by middle school, high school, I became

845
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: like an orchestra do orc It took over my whole

846
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: personality and I was like, oh, so that's why I

847
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: was like way more artsy in high school than an athlete.

848
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: So it's so interesting that you went to school and

849
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: you were like, I'm gonna be a lawyer.

850
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: You have this like really artistic side of you. Yeah,

851
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: it all makes sense.

852
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: All right, I'm curious, like, right now, what are the

853
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: songs on your hype playlist?

854
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: But it's the genre?

855
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: Are we rap really just Highler? The creators?

856
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

857
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: I like, honestly, I do this thing where every single

858
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: month I make a new playlist and it's like just

859
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: songs that I'm listening to on repeat.

860
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I listen on repeat. It's like sickening.

861
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was like look like him, like it's

862
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: from Tyler's new album. But then I was like going

863
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: through the playlist and I was like, oh, this is

864
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: literally just his whole album in one playlist.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever do silent runs? No?

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Speaker 1: They spare me. What about podcast runs? I haven't done

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Speaker 1: a podcast run either.

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Speaker 2: I love podcast runs.

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Speaker 1: Even like when we got on the treadmills, I almost

870
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: asked you if I could play music in one year

871
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: because I was like, I know, like it would help

872
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit with Like.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the questions I was going to

874
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: ask you in the Pop Question round is do you listen?

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: Do you wish you were listening to music right now?

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00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: Because I was.

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Speaker 3: Wondering that because so I'm like che like, I sometimes

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Speaker 3: will go for a silent run.

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Speaker 2: It just depends.

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Speaker 3: But because sometimes I'm like, if I've been overstimulated, I

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Speaker 3: need to just like sit with my thoughts. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes if I'm listening to music, it'll like crowd my

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Speaker 3: head's face, which is like so crazy because like I

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Speaker 3: feel like I used to only be able to listen

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Speaker 3: to music, and then I think once I started listening

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Speaker 3: to podcasts when I was running, I was able to

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Speaker 3: then go from like music to podcasts while running to

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Speaker 3: then no music.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it just depends on the day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need to listen to your podcast, while.

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Speaker 2: You should listen to this episode. While this is a

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Speaker 2: good episode.

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Speaker 3: Okay, as we start wrapping up, you just around the

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Speaker 3: New York City Marathon, you're making amazing content. You're popping off.

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Speaker 3: What is next for prefee? What can we be excited about?

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Speaker 3: Tell me Tokyo twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Let's get dart Oh my god, so soon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I think I'm going to go to

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Speaker 1: LA in January, because I am not trying to do

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Speaker 1: my twenty eighteen mile runs in New York during that winter.

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Speaker 3: Now do them by the beato, I'll do a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be in LA for the month of January. Also,

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Speaker 3: so we should do a long run together. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you guys can look out for PRETHEE and Kate two

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Speaker 3: point zero. And if you're listening to this podcast and

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Speaker 3: you haven't yet seen The Treadmill Show, go watch our

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Speaker 3: Treadmill Show episode. Make sure you're following prethe and I

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Speaker 3: across socials. Thank you so much to everybody listening. We

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Speaker 3: love you so freaking much. You're the only reason why

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Speaker 3: this podcast is possible. And yeah, stay tuned for our

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Speaker 3: next episode.

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Speaker 2: Love you, guys.