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Speaker 1: Hey there, Fana Ritos. Welcome to an all new episode

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Speaker 1: of How Rude Tanner Ritos. Our guests today played a

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Speaker 1: character who was always a hot topic between Kimmy and DJ,

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Speaker 1: whether she's bragging about her moped, giving the girls a

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Speaker 1: crash course on Junior High, or taking shop class because

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Speaker 1: she thought it took place at the mall. Kathy Santoni

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Speaker 1: is always a topic of conversation. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to have Anne Marie McAvoy on the podcast with us

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Speaker 1: today to talk about her iconic role. Welcome and Marie.

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Speaker 2: I put on mass scara.

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Speaker 1: As long as you assume the position, the position terribly right.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for mascara guys for makeup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: What you said, assume the position, assume.

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Speaker 1: The position, and then you open your mouth. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a terrible out of context. That sounds terrible, But.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully they don't use that as the snippet for this episode.

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Speaker 4: You know what is happenings.

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Speaker 3: Kathy s Antoni shows up in a crop top and

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Speaker 3: this is what happens. We're We're so glad to have

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Speaker 3: you on the show though today, Amory, it's I mean,

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Speaker 3: we hadn't seen you from the original show until we

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Speaker 3: did Fuller House, so it has been slightly more recently,

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Speaker 3: but still Kathy Santoni is a fan favorite.

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Speaker 4: Just so you know, people are very excited.

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Speaker 2: Well I'm a favorite. Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: guys favorite. So you know how long it took? So

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Speaker 2: I remember it was something like nine months, maybe longer

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Speaker 2: than that, like like you could grow a person in

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Speaker 2: a length of time between when they asked me about

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Speaker 2: Fuller House and when like a very very bigrudged, not begrudgingly,

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Speaker 2: that's not the great word. I was not going to

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Speaker 2: say Yes'm not going to say it's not going to Oh,

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Speaker 2: Jeff called, Jeff left messages you there were we talked

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Speaker 2: on the phone. I was still not sold. And this

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Speaker 2: is like nine months, right that this toll period. I

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Speaker 2: think you'd reach out here. And then finally my my

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Speaker 2: now nineteen year old, said I do I think, mom,

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Speaker 2: I think kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: That's like, you know what when your nineteen year old

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Speaker 3: was like that would be cool, You're like that never happens.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm doing it right.

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Speaker 2: You have to do like I better do that like

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Speaker 2: lightning shell strike. So that was that was that.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you did, because, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: what a great, what a great cameo from Kathy Santoni.

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Speaker 1: But let's go back to nineteen eighty nine where it

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Speaker 1: all began with the Back to School Blues episode, which

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Speaker 1: we were just referring to with the Meskara.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, what a great I mean, what just such

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Speaker 3: a classic episode. I mean, that's one of the ones

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Speaker 3: that I've seen it, but no, it's one of the

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Speaker 3: indicative of like Kimmy and DJ's relationship, and and again

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Speaker 3: like meeting the the only the in name only person

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Speaker 3: that we've heard of Kathy Santoni, Like that was a

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about your audition?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: I have so many questions? What was what? What was

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Speaker 1: this your first acting job? What was your audition? Like?

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Speaker 1: How did you feel when you said audition?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, I barely remember most of the weeks

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Speaker 2: of relatable shit, So but I don't remember more more

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Speaker 2: than you guys do. I'm sure like you weren't watching

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Speaker 2: the episodes. I was, but I listened to your podcast

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Speaker 2: episode yesterday, like full on the whole thing, because we're like,

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Speaker 2: right now we have dogs, we like legos.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, do you remember auditioning?

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Speaker 2: I mean I remember the latest memory of that in

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Speaker 1: Or had you seen like that you've seen before you

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Speaker 1: came door set? Okay?

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Speaker 3: You know, so I started acting when I was six,

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Speaker 3: So you started acting at six, which is obviously Kathy.

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Speaker 4: What did you you were at the audition?

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Speaker 1: I was at your audition read like No, there was

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Speaker 2: You were a third callback or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Oh maybe like a like a chemistry reading.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course it's possible. Kathy's Antonio. This was a

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, they knew so much then they knew

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Speaker 2: like they really It's almost like they had a vision

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Speaker 1: So what did they tell you about the character of

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Speaker 1: Kathy Santoni, like in your sides or in the character description?

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Speaker 1: Did they say, you know, she's like yes.

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Speaker 2: So I played two types of characters at that time, uh,

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Speaker 2: all and so I did DumbLand, you know, ditzy and

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Speaker 2: sarcasm right, like, oh really sarcastic. So I had a

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Speaker 2: Family Ties episode that was like I chewed up the

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Speaker 2: during this like Michael Keaton scene. So I'd done a

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Speaker 2: and like that was the thing to do. And I

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Speaker 2: have no idea what your question was. I'm really bad

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Speaker 2: at that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what did you know about Kathy Santoni before

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Speaker 1: you went into the audition? Did they say she's a

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Speaker 1: she's a ditsy character? Is she you know? Did they

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Speaker 1: talk about the crop top? Like what did they.

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Speaker 3: She's Like, I have no idea other than I gave

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Speaker 3: the social Security number and possibly kidney away.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened in your vision.

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Speaker 2: Talked about my upper body tour, So yeah, well but

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Then, Okay, we will Will. We reviewed this episode of

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Speaker 1: like a month or two ago, and I my cheeks

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Speaker 1: got so hot watching rewatching that scene where I had

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Speaker 2: Was mortified because my belly, Oh my, I would never

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Speaker 2: very Yeah, I went to Catholic school, like this was

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Speaker 3: I know, but that's I mean, that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: And then that is very much what this business really

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Speaker 4: And sort of but like I am right. But for

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Speaker 3: We went, oh, this is I don't know for like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, I don't know anyway, but.

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Speaker 2: Moving out. Look, we all stopped at the same time.

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Speaker 4: As a horror fan, I have to say this. You

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Speaker 4: you were Sarah and children born. Yes, I love. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: I love horror movie.

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Speaker 1: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I like, Okay, I was gonna that was what I

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Speaker 3: Are you one of those people? That's because there are

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Speaker 3: I I love watching it, but AV knows that terrify me.

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Speaker 4: And I'm then You're like, I'm interested.

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Speaker 4: How old were you when you did that movie? And

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Speaker 2: I turned eight on the set of that one, so

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Speaker 4: In the family. Oh my god, yeah, wow, you got

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Speaker 2: Question this episode. Oh I had a thick accent?

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Speaker 4: Classic.

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Speaker 2: Did I punched him? I might have punched him in

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Speaker 2: not actually sure. We have to ask, you know, we

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Speaker 2: our moms know we're your stage parents. It was you know,

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Speaker 2: stage guardian, stage person. How do we be inclusive now

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Speaker 2: And as it turned out, we had we had a

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, as a as like a set guardian.

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Speaker 2: For my brother, for my latest brother.

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Speaker 4: He was in, Oh for your brother.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is deep guy he was because you don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, because you would know that that

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Speaker 3: You know, Kathy Santoni's younger brother would be in Michelle's

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Speaker 3: actually yeah right, But we had no idea we had generations.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have the Nackavoy slash Santoni's.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes you did, right, Yeah, it's uh what a lineage. Well,

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Speaker 3: We were very lucky on Miller Boyette in our on

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've had Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: On the show, and she talked about her experiencing step

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Speaker 4: And we were we were We always.

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Speaker 3: I say amongst amongst those shows like we there were

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Speaker 4: We had wonderful studio teachers, we.

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Speaker 3: Had wonderful set parents, we had amazing producers like it

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Speaker 3: just nobody would have gotten away with I think anything,

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Speaker 2: Corners because he liked these kids. So there was a

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Speaker 2: Yes? Sorry, I'm not sure what you want me to change? Sick? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It was for college. It was to get money for college. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Did you get recognized? Did you feel famous? Or did

440
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Speaker 1: you just feel like you fit right in?

441
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Speaker 2: I mean as much as anybody can feel like they

442
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: fit right in in college, which is not really but

443
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I fit in more than they're than all.

444
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's a great statement because I felt the

445
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: same way. I was like, this is where I'm supposed

446
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: to be. It just felt like a very natural progression.

447
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: And I people weren't like kids are nicer in college,

448
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Like they're a little more mature at least than high

449
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 1: schoolers who just want to make fun of you and

450
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: call your names. Oh in college, you didn't have that.

451
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Speaker 2: Oh god, no, you were so noticeable.

452
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Speaker 4: Well so was so so was the a B.

453
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Speaker 3: I feel like, oh yeah, no, when I like moving

454
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Speaker 3: into the dorms, I would come down the hall and

455
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Speaker 3: someone would start playing.

456
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Speaker 4: The full house. No, or they write.

457
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Speaker 3: Like notes on my like the outside of one to

458
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Speaker 3: ever think of that?

459
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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, that sucks. Yeah yeah no, yeah, yeah, okay.

460
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's probably creepy stuff too, just like

461
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Speaker 2: I get weird more of just six year old version

462
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Speaker 2: of me, Like that's not okay, right, however old I am.

463
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Speaker 2: Now you think that I'm that little girl in the

464
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Speaker 2: movie and that's right.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

466
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Speaker 2: No, No, you.

467
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Speaker 1: Went to school for psychology and got your and education education. Okay,

468
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: so yes, what drew you to undergrad? What drew you

469
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Speaker 1: to psychology and education? Of what was your life plan?

470
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Speaker 2: My life plan was to be the first female pope

471
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Speaker 2: for the first okay president of it. That's what I

472
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: would plan. Is like a thing that I remember thinking

473
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Speaker 2: that was like the thing to say. But I knew

474
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Speaker 2: I wanted to go to college. I knew I went

475
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Speaker 2: to my PhD. And along the way I and that

476
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: was my fourth grade. That's what I decided. Wow, I

477
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Speaker 2: have the nose. That doesn't even tell you that I can't.

478
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Speaker 1: You need you need to blow your nose. That's to

479
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Speaker 1: assume the position.

480
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Speaker 2: And no, no, I need to go. I need to.

481
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Speaker 1: Do you need a netty pot? We can take a five.

482
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Speaker 2: And because I have that, right, I could do that.

483
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Speaker 2: I could demonstrate for you on.

484
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Speaker 1: This that this is a very special episode of Tannerto's.

485
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Speaker 2: Ya this week on a special episode.

486
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Speaker 1: Yes, so you were always very very driven. You knew

487
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Speaker 1: what you wanted and you went after it. I mean,

488
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: it's so afforable that you weren't. You weren't just like, oh,

489
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Speaker 1: I'm just want to be you know, I want to

490
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Speaker 1: be famous and I want to be you know, it's

491
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Speaker 1: so easy to get stuck in that Hollywood trap.

492
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be seen. I wanted to be

493
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Speaker 2: able to be seen, and I think people don't realize

494
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: that about kids these days, like to. I mean, I'm

495
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: actually without words as I try to describe how it

496
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Speaker 2: is to go about the world thinking that you, you know,

497
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Speaker 2: always you had to be on these If somebody saw

498
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Speaker 2: you doing such and such, then you know, then it

499
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Speaker 2: was over or then it was the price. That was

500
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Speaker 2: kind of message that I heard. I don't know want

501
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Speaker 2: you know my mom actually said.

502
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Speaker 1: And this was pretty internet too, this was I'm sure

503
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Speaker 1: you cell phones pre social media.

504
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Speaker 2: Goodness, Yah, goodness you've always been because I don't think.

505
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Speaker 1: Would you call yourself an introvert or an extrovert? And

506
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Speaker 1: have you always been that way?

507
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Speaker 4: Were you an extrovert that needs time alone to reach.

508
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why good distinction. Are you that too, me?

509
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Speaker 1: Yes, joys that.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

511
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Speaker 3: I can go out and I can go do things,

512
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Speaker 3: but then like don't talk and then I need like

513
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: like then I have over peopled myself.

514
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Speaker 2: Does that work for you?

515
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: Depends on what I do during the downtime.

516
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Speaker 3: If I do something sort of meditative, if I'm like

517
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Speaker 3: I don't know, building legos or writing, or even if

518
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like zoned out like in my

519
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: hammock for a couple hours reading a book or something,

520
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Speaker 3: it does recharge me a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you have kids?

523
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Speaker 1: Both of us do. Yeah together, but we have kids.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we we do. We we have pleasing together.

525
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Speaker 4: It's we co parent.

526
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Speaker 1: Zoe and Felicity looked alike a lot like for a

527
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Speaker 1: long time, but.

528
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Speaker 4: Yes they did. Wait are you the are you the

529
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Speaker 4: father of my children? Yeah? Our kids sixteen and fourteen almost.

530
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Speaker 1: Fortunate minor twenty and I was seventeen. So we all

531
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Speaker 1: have we all have older kids.

532
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Speaker 2: I have a nineteen and then I have it almost

533
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Speaker 2: I have thirteen almost fourteen, and uh, we're in it.

534
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: This is like a support emotional support group form.

535
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Speaker 2: Can we have that? We have like a whole podcast

536
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Speaker 2: on being being a chest actresses were growing up to

537
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Speaker 2: be parents of.

538
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, just parents in general.

539
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Speaker 1: I feel like, what do you think so especially this

540
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Speaker 1: is the hardest age to parent, Like, is it the

541
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Speaker 1: the younger the early teen years, the later teen years,

542
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Speaker 1: or the adult child who which I call the baby

543
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Speaker 1: adult in the house.

544
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, so tell me what is how old

545
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Speaker 2: is it?

546
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Speaker 1: My baby adult is twenty years old and he's great.

547
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 2: He's that's a baby. That's a that's not a baby

548
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: baby adult. So there's some thinking and here's the science

549
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: for you that this period of emerging adulthood you can

550
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Speaker 2: be considered an emerging adult, not yet an adult, up

551
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Speaker 2: through age thirty five. While that's five, Wait.

552
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Speaker 1: So thirty I feel like I'm still an emerging adult

553
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: forty eight.

554
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: So I'd like to go back to the I don't

555
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: think I'm in personally right, that would be great.

556
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: Quite enough of this emerging I would like to go back.

557
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: I would like to I would like to emerge re emergemges.

558
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: So was your nineteen year old emerging as an adult? Is?

559
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Oh? He's dude, he's been a night. He's also nervous.

560
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: Oh I should not say that, No, I can't. Yeah,

561
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: we're we're we have we have some ADHD tendencies.

562
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: Solid yeah yeah, yeah yeah. My house is yeah, everyone

563
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: except my poor husband. So he's just like.

564
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah yeah, but you still have.

565
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Speaker 4: The well the newest one. Yes, yeah, I know.

566
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, how did you manage to figure it out? Oh?

567
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got divorced three times.

568
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that, you know, it's say I'd say

569
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: that it finally figured it out in there.

570
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 4: That's the key word, that finally than.

571
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Speaker 2: Ever do here you heard here first, Kathy Santoni will

572
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: it's more likely that I will become enough.

573
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: Actually, I would like, I'm and you got to you

574
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: got to start somewhere. If you want to become the

575
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: first female pope.

576
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I feel like.

577
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: You don't just go taking over the.

578
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: Oh. I would not want that job. I would just

579
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: know to say masks. Oh god, no, right.

580
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: I mean maybe mainly for the hats and the capes

581
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: everything else not so yeah, no, I'm not so s.

582
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Speaker 1: Well, just pull out, pull out the red crop top.

583
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: You know, we'll get we'll get a great.

584
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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

585
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: Right, oh it wasn't even mine. Like you know, how

586
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: you bring wordrom with you, that's not something I had to.

587
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were like, I do not own this.

588
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh the black skirt I had, but I would never

589
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: have worn of me really, crops. We were thirteen.

590
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're so smarter now I'm thirteen. Wow.

591
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: But also yeah, but it also like then I see

592
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: how kids dressed today and I'm like, they're all like,

593
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: it's sort of but it was. It was more the

594
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: like miniaturized version of like a like a white Snake video,

595
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: is what, you know what I mean? It was like

596
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: the fans that weld see like a Motley Crue concert,

597
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: except they.

598
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: Were Sha Chandra Chandra. Shanda, the other one in the episode,

599
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: thought she was the coolest. She's like, look at them,

600
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: they're like.

601
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Speaker 1: Like the the mean girl in the mea the mean girl.

602
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: She was like their Brian shrimp.

603
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what was it?

604
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: See we watched this a month ago and we've already forgotten.

605
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: Uppies, guppies, Amieba's guppies, something like that.

606
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: Guppies.

607
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, yeah, our fans are so devoted

608
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: they they're writing on our Instagram right now what it is.

609
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Because they're like they know everything, we know nothing.

610
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see a discord chat like alongside,

611
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: because if we did this, they would be like answering.

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00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: We've had several Fancy, there'll be a I could I

613
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: could expectin it if I wasn't so.

614
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Distracted by how pasty and round my face looks.

615
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: You look gorgeous. You look gorgeous, say gorgeous. Contour while contour.

616
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Now it's now the podcast is becoming get Ready. We're

617
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Speaker 3: getting ready with Kathy Santoni today.

618
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Speaker 4: Here we go, get yours, get out your crop tops

619
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Speaker 4: and your hair crympt. Yeah.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember crimped hair?

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this episode that we just watched for the next

622
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Speaker 3: recap episode that we're going to do, Canvas has un

623
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Speaker 3: ironically crimped hair the whole episode, like not like, oh

624
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Speaker 3: my god, it's a throwback, but like that was right

625
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Speaker 3: were they was the triangle shaped barrel or the little

626
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Speaker 3: Yeah do you remember they.

627
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Speaker 2: Have different attachments, like the different plates that that popped

628
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Speaker 2: into it. Yep.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the eighties just fried all of our Yeah.

630
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Speaker 2: Mine still has oh.

631
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Speaker 1: A little wispy, But do you have great hair? You've

632
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: always had that great curly hair. Tony from your first

633
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: appearance right now, look at that hairy face.

634
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: That great Irish hair is what it is? Great Irish.

635
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. I don't have a thin hair. Prom

636
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: my kids hair is I they are. They're like they

637
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: mastered like ringlets like their hair and I have the

638
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: same hair curly and we did not have those products.

639
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They don't. Yeah, all of these

640
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: kids now they got to skip out.

641
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: On the on the awkward phase, right, we got to

642
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: live ours in front of everyone, you know, and now

643
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: they just skipped it over entirely.

644
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Speaker 2: And yeah, here's the thing, because I'm a researcher who

645
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: studies this y, they feel just as awkward in their

646
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: awesomeness now as we felt in what other people thought

647
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: was awesome. You know, I wanted to be Shawna Whipple.

648
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what Shawna Whipples. She was the right

649
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: the white snake girl.

650
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: So you're you're an assistant professor at U c IRV.

651
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm not. I was an assistant I was a tenured

652
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Speaker 2: professor and as a hot news as of just a

653
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Speaker 2: couple of days ago, since I am no longer I

654
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Speaker 2: left you.

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Speaker 1: Did, oh breaking news.

656
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Speaker 2: I didn't here on how right.

657
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Speaker 1: Well, there goes all the questions I was going to

658
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Speaker 1: ask about that. Well, that means another door is waiting

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Speaker 1: for you to open. And there are so many doors, yes,

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Speaker 1: so many doors, so many, so many.

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Speaker 2: Doors for them. The fifth episode that didn't exist is

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Speaker 2: when I was I was, I was done. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to be a normal kid. I didn't want to. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to be able to cut my hair or like

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Speaker 2: paint right with markers so that I got a hand

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Speaker 2: modeling gig. You were, you know, And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: go to birthday parties and I wanted to There was

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Speaker 2: a ski trip planned and we're ready to go on

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Speaker 2: a ski trip. And I got called to work and

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Speaker 2: I went, oh my god, I don't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I don't And that

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Speaker 2: happened on other ones too, and I remember her saying,

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Speaker 2: so you know in this tone too, so you know

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Speaker 2: that if you don't do it, probably your last one.

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Speaker 2: And I said, I know, oh, and you should. You're

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Speaker 2: okay with that, I am.

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Speaker 1: That's great that you had the forethought to know yourself confident.

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Speaker 2: Now I was terrified. I was terrified that I wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to exist as anything outside. You know, I was

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Speaker 2: the kid who did commercials and was on the random

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Speaker 2: and you couldn't be sure if people liked you for

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Speaker 2: that or or for you, and you know, self esteem

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Speaker 2: is such I study Adolyst development. As I research on it,

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Speaker 2: I teach classes. I taught a whole uh version of

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Speaker 2: the course, like a whole quarter of the course of

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Speaker 2: Adelst development around Full House. You I used examples from

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Speaker 2: Full House because the quarter before I was out it

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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the core. So I people would

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Speaker 2: find out, like at the end of of you know,

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Speaker 2: ten weeks or sixteen weeks of taking classes, they'd go, like, professor,

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Speaker 2: come up like really quietly after class, like and they said, so,

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Speaker 2: I was watching TV last night and I saw I

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Speaker 2: saw you. It was that you on Full House. I go,

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Speaker 2: You've an exam tomorrow. What are you doing watching?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: This is not what you need to be doing. Crack

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Speaker 2: op in a book, but yeah, right right. But they

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Speaker 2: were there were kauds. They were really good students, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, how sweet is that? And they'd like come

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00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: up quietly and like privately, until finally it was like

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Speaker 2: really close in the beginning of the semester, like close

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Speaker 2: to the beginning of the semester that I was outed

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00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: and then everybody finds out and it's like, oh, and

705
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: you can't really talk about myself. So then I just

706
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: leaned into it and did examples. So we had examples.

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00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: You teach about, I love these sexuality, you teach about, drinking,

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: about family, about peers about so that like, it's the

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Speaker 2: best show. I mean, it's a fantastic show.

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Speaker 1: Full house hit on all of those topics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, yeah, all right, all the biggies and

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: the identity, your sense of who you are and trying

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Speaker 2: on makeup and being his friends and fighting with your friends,

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Speaker 2: and I mean it really that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Was yeah, yeah, wow, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. And then

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Speaker 1: I got pre into it, and then you got pregnant.

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Speaker 2: That had three found out later that the episode that no, No,

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Speaker 2: Scathy's Antoni got pregnant episode, the one right is the

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Speaker 2: one where she so it was talking about the show

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Speaker 2: was talking yeah about, but I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's so that was the one you were supposed

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Speaker 1: to be in, but you were just like, Nope, I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing another one.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to be in it. I was called

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00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: we had plans to go skiing. Oh oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it anyway. I think my mom said she

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: made up an excuse like a broken leg or something

728
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: like that. Broken. I don't remember how this went down.

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Speaker 2: We'd have to ask them. I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: her in trouble. But she was. She knows, you know,

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Speaker 2: she was around. She We did it. We were a team.

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Speaker 2: We were in Africa from the for five months. I

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Speaker 2: turned twelve in Kenya. In Kenya, they decorated my tent

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Speaker 2: with lights.

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Speaker 1: So what an eclectic life you have lived, a child

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Speaker 1: actor to professor to whatever is on the horizon for

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Speaker 1: you next. This is just been a wonderful conversation about

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Speaker 1: your life and your memories.

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Speaker 3: We are so glad that we got to have the infamous,

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Speaker 3: well deserved infamy. Uh Kathy Santoni on the show with us,

741
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Speaker 3: And it was so fun to have you on Fuller

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Speaker 3: and to now get to talk to you on Howard

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Speaker 3: dan Rito's. We've just we've loved having you as a guest.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so great to catch up.

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Speaker 2: But we have Dog episode that we need to have

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Speaker 2: some questions for you know you if you funs take

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Speaker 2: a look at them, I just think, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: want another wait millionaires, brace you guys again.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, we will have these reunions

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Speaker 1: more often.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So great to see.

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Speaker 3: And well then you know, the next time Kathy Santoni

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Speaker 3: comes up, we'll have to we have.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more episodes, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much and it's been a

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Speaker 3: pleasure you Well. That concludes our interview with Anne Marie McAvoy,

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Speaker 3: known to many of you as Kathy Santoni. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I mean she has so many fun memories, like you said,

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00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: an eclectic career from you know, a twelfth birthday in

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Speaker 3: Kenya to working on Full House and then Fuller and

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Speaker 3: Children of the Corn all.

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Speaker 4: Sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 3: But we had such a blast talking to her, so

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Speaker 3: much fun to bring back some of these these ogs

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Speaker 3: from the original Full House.

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Speaker 4: But thank you so much for listening, you guys.

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Speaker 3: And remember, if you want to find us on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: you can check us out at how Rude Podcast. You

771
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: can also send us an email at Howard Podcast at

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Speaker 3: gmail dot com. And you know what, I would say

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Speaker 3: like and subscribe to the podcast wherever you're listening to

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Speaker 3: it so that you can get all the newest episodes.

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Speaker 4: As soon as they are released, which you know you want.

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Speaker 2: You know you're justly to hear this.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah absolutely, But anyway, thanks for joining us for

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Speaker 3: another fun episode. You guys, we love you, and remember

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Speaker 3: the world is small. No, yeah, yeah, the world is small.

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Speaker 4: The world is small. But the world is small.

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Speaker 3: But the cornfield is full, yes, yes, but the cornfield.

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Speaker 1: Is well done. Yeah, I'm glad you didn't say the

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Speaker 1: crop top is full.

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Speaker 4: No no, well no, that's actually but yeah, yeah, whether

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Speaker 4: the world the world? Oh how did I miss this?

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Speaker 1: The world is small.

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Speaker 4: The world is small, and so is Kathy Santoni's Crompton.

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Speaker 1: I good, just kissed, see better the second