1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to this league uncut rule of twenty four hour 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: NBA News. This's you lo Chris Haines. It's so time, Markstein, 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: It's so time. This league uncut is underway and on fire. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: This should be a good one. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Hello friends, welcome to another audio dispatch solo. Mark Stein 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: speaking to you here. Had to be done, had to 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: get out the microphone, had to get out the recording apparatus. 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: After what we witness Monday night, Jimmy Butler, people slamming 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: home yet again that he is the most underrated player 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: in the NBA, certainly the most underrated star. This is 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 2: how we used to talk about Drew Holiday, but it's 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Butler now underrated, underappreciated. We simply do not speak enough 13 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: about how world class this guy is, what a winning 14 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: player he is. Butler had twenty two points in the 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: first quarter Monday night against Holiday's Bucks. He had twenty 16 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: one in the fourth. He finished with fifty six, tying 17 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: for the fourth highest scoring output ever in an NBA game. 18 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Even afterwards, though, I found myself arguing with one of 19 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: the smartest basketball people I know, who shall remain nameless. 20 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: But the gist of the convo I can share that 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: and basically it's me arguing with him that I have 22 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: considered Jimmy Butler to be a top ten player in 23 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: the NBA since the Bubble in Orlando. I wrote this 24 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: in The New York Times in October of twenty twenty, 25 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: after Jimmy Butler powered Miami to the finals, and remember 26 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: they took the Lakers to six games, even though along 27 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: the way injuries hampered both bam Adebayo and Goran Dragic. 28 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: My piece in the New York Times at the time 29 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: it was all about how one of the lasting, most 30 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: important takeaways from the Bubble had to be how Butler 31 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: enhanced his reputation more than any other player in the league. 32 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: To me, he had proven that he was a top 33 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: ten player in this league. Still though there are so 34 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: many people all over the NBA map who refused to 35 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: see it that way, including the person I was arguing 36 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: with after this Butler master piece. It's amazing to me 37 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: how often this kind of pushback still comes up. And 38 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: let me tell you something, coaches in the Eastern Conference 39 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: have proven that they are no smarter. Because this is 40 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: gonna go down. This season will be recorded as the 41 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: second season already in Jimmy's career, the second in which 42 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: he was ridiculously snubbed from the All Star Game by 43 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: East coaches and then goes on to earn All NBA status. Now, no, 44 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: I do not have a secret copy of the final 45 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: official All NBA Teams, but trust me, Butler's going to 46 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: be on there. 47 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: He's earning. 48 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: All NBA status this season, and again it's gonna be 49 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: the second time he does so. And look, Butler would 50 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: be the first to tell you his day to day personality. 51 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: It's a lot for some people. That's one of Jimmy's 52 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: pet phrases. 53 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: I'm a lot. 54 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Headstrong is the polite adjective you hear. Confrontational is the 55 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: adjective that gets thrown around much more frequently. 56 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: That's the one. 57 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: You know, he's a confrontational guy. We've heard that throughout 58 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: Butler's career. But the Heat know how to handle it, 59 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: and they're thriving with Butler as the center of their 60 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: universe for the fourth successive season, and this season, at 61 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: age thirty three, Butler shot a career best fifty three 62 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: point seven percent from the field. He's shooting nearly sixty 63 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: three percent from the floor. Against the Bucks in this series, 64 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: averaging thirty six point five points a game, and Butler 65 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: more than anyone. He's the guy who has steered Miami, 66 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: the number eight seed in the East, to a three 67 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: to one lead entering Wednesday's pivotal. 68 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: Game five in Milwaukee. 69 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: What historically does Jimmy not do well? Apart from shooting 70 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: the three. He's an elite two way player, top shelf 71 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: playmaker for himself and teammates. Now, I know that was 72 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: also a criticism at various points in his career that 73 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: he's not he's too unselfish on offense. It doesn't look 74 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: to take over games. Try tell him that to the 75 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: Bucks right now, who are on the brink of their 76 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: season ending. You know, Jimmy sure look pretty aggressive when 77 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: it mattered most. He just makes winning plays, gets to 78 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: the line, makes his free throws fifteen for eighteen at 79 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: the line in Game four, and just look at his 80 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: time with the Heat. They made the finals in the Bubble. 81 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: They were one shot away from making it back to 82 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: the finals last season. Yes, bus, yes, Jimmy missed the 83 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: decisive three, But I think we know that that's not 84 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: his strong suit and it's probably not the shot he 85 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: wanted to take, but he knew it was the right shot, 86 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: and that moment took it missed it. Okay, they were 87 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: a shot away from getting back to the finals last season, 88 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: but now they're on the brink of becoming just the 89 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: sixth number eight seed in NBA history to upset a 90 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: number one seed. I'll tell you this much, I know 91 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: where to turn when I do want to find support 92 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: for my assertion that Butler's one of the ten best 93 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: players in the league. I know where to go. 94 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: You go to his peers. That's who. 95 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: One of my absolute favorite memories from the bubble, I 96 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: had the chance to sit down with Jimmy for about 97 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 2: an hour one day. In the hallway of Disney World, 98 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: there was one hallway where reporters could mingle with players 99 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: and coaches and team people. This is remembered during the 100 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: height of cod restrictions, but there was one hallway where 101 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: reporters were allowed to be at the Coronado Springs resort, 102 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: and players had to go through there, getting to meal rooms, 103 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: getting to practice courts, going back to their hotel. It 104 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: was an area that they couldn't avoid us and that 105 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: we were allowed to be, So of course I love 106 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: to hang out there. Chris Mannox of Sports Illustrated he 107 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: did the same. We were constantly bumping into each other 108 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 2: because we knew that was a great place to see people. 109 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: And so during this sit down with Jimmy, it just 110 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: it was amazing to me how many players from different 111 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: teams stopped along the way to pay their respects. Wes 112 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Matthews and Pat Connaton from the Bucks, a slew of 113 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Lakers came by to basically show their respect to Jimmy. 114 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Rajon Rondo stayed for a while they were teammates in Milwaukee. 115 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: They loved rehashing the series in twenty seventeen when they 116 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: took a two zero lead over Boston in Boston and 117 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: then Rondo suffered the hand injury, and you know, they 118 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 2: remained convinced to this day that they win that series 119 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: if not for Rondo's injury. Brad Stevens was then the 120 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: Celtics coach. He made sure that Jimmy heard him say 121 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: hello as he passed by. And then I remember Robin 122 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Lopez then he was a former teammate of Jimmy's in Chicago. 123 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: He was with Milwaukee at the time. He was the 124 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: last in this slew of players to come by and 125 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: say hello. And then as he walked away, Robin turned 126 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: to me and he pointed at Butler. 127 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: And he said, this man is a treasure. 128 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: And I really feel that a lot of NBA players 129 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: see it that exact same way. You see the ongoing 130 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: love fest between Joel Embiid and Jimmy Butler after their 131 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: brief stint as teammates. They're always talking about each other. 132 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Would not surprise me in the least if. 133 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: We see those guys. 134 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: Hook up together again in the future. 135 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: They're that fond of each other. 136 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: If there's a way it's gonna happen that they end 137 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: up on the same team again, I don't know if 138 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: that's probably not gonna happen in Philly, don't know if 139 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: it's possible in Miami. Certainly don't know how it's possible 140 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: in this new CBA world, but I'm sure they would 141 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: both love to make it happen. So many pros they 142 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: all saw it the same way as I did back 143 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty in the bubble, and we're seeing an 144 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: even higher level of brilliance now in this series this spring. 145 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Fifty six points again in Game four on nineteen for 146 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: twenty eight shooting. 147 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: He only needed twenty eight. 148 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Shots to score those fifty six points, and he did 149 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: it on the night Janis Antetokounmpo made his return to 150 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: the Bucks. We can't overlook this point either. Obviously Miami's 151 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: three to one lead. Do they have a three to 152 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: one lead if Yannis plays more than eleven minutes in 153 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: the first three games of the series. Certainly that's a factor. 154 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: That Jannis could only play those eleven minutes in Game one, 155 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 2: missed two games with the back injury, comes back with 156 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: the triple double in game four. But saying all that, 157 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: I mean Jimmy eclipse the triple double with what he 158 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: did last night, and he's doing all this without Tyler 159 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: Hero at his side. Heroes out for at least six 160 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: weeks with a broken hand. And if you're not sure 161 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: how big miss that is for Miami, let's not forget 162 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: that no team in the regular season struggle to score 163 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: as much as this Heat team. When I think back 164 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: to that sit down three years ago in the bubble, 165 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: and yes, of course he did. Jimmy Butler had a 166 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: cup of big rass coffee in his hand. He said, quote, 167 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: believe me when I tell you that I do not 168 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: care what people say about me. I truly don't care. 169 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: End quote. 170 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: Believe this, Jimmy Buckets. We're going to talk about you 171 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: today and tomorrow. It looks like we're going to be 172 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: talking about you longer than anyone imagined in this postseason. 173 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: If the Heat can just manufacture. 174 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: That one more win, they need to knock out the 175 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: closest thing to a consensus favorite to win it all 176 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: in Round one of these playoffs, or at least I'm 177 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: gonna talk about you, whether you like it or not, 178 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: because I think you are the most underrated player, certainly 179 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: the most underrated star. 180 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: In the entire NBA, no matter what you think, Jimmy Buckets. 181 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: All right, everyone, that does it for me. 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