1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: My corner time. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: We were wondering if Brian Snicker was going to continue 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: to manage the Atlanta Braves, and that will not be 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: the case. This is it for him, So the twenty 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: twenty five season is his last as a manager in baseball. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: He'll stay with the team in an advisory role. Thoughts 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: on this and how this goes down behind the scenes. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: I think I think this was ultimately Smith's decision. I 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: know I had talked to him about this when I 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: saw him, and I was there when he managed his 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: first game and won his first game. I was on 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: the team at twenty sixteen. He's seventy ish years old 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: and sort of this was his forty ninth year with 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: the Braves organization. Next year would be the fiftieth. I 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 3: know he didn't just want to completely get out of it, 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: but he also said, I don't know that I want 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: to go through one hundred and sixty two games as 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: a manager. So I think that's what led to this 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: decision from Snitt. Ultimately with Snit's but hey, you know what, 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: God bless you, Snit. I hope you get you know, 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: you get that fiftieth year with Atlanta. I know you're 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: going to go into an advisory role, just you know, 23 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 3: do what you do man at some point. Listen, here's 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: the thing about Snith. He has brand kids he loves 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: spending time with and he gets an opportunity now to 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: go and spend time with him. So God bless you, Snith. 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your life. Man. And you've had 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: a great run. You won a world series. Something only 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 3: two managers in the history of Atlanta in any sport 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: can say. You and Bobby Cox are the only two 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: guys to ever win a professional sports championship in Atlanta. 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: And he's seen in this organization for forty nine years. 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: That's such an impressive number. But let's say only for 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 4: hypothetical that AA Alexanthopolis goes to him and says, hey, 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: you want to manage again this year? And Snith says, 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: do you want me to manage again this year? If 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: I'm Alexanthopolis, I say, our our winning window is right now. 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: If you're not full one hundred in cause I'm maybe, 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I might manage, I might not, Okay, I'm 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: in Okay, then what are you going to change from 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: this year? Would be the next question that alex Anthopolis, 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: because something has to change. You can't just always say 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: all right, you know the injuries, Yes, the injuries are 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: a thing, but other teams have injuries, some not as 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: big as the Braves. How are you going to make 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: a change, Because to me, I think there does need 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: to be some type of change because it's not gonna 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: happen with personnel on the field. The team he has 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: is the team that I think they're gonna give him 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: adding a piece here or there. 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: But what are you saying you wanted him to keep 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: going or what? 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that that's the conversation. I don't think 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: alex Anthopolis was just saying, hey, do you want to 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: manage next year? No, I'd rather not. Okay, we'll move 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: on to me. If he says yes I want to 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: manage next year, Alesanthopolis isn't firing him. But if you're 58 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: a good GM, which I know Alex Anthopolis is. He's 59 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: built this team, he's given these extensions good or bad, 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: they've put a good product out there. You need to 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: have an answer of what are you changing? How is 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: it going to be different? Because you play the same 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: eight guys every single day for the entire season, which 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: I think is a bonus. You've played this whole time 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: without a shortstop that's comparable to the other players around 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 4: the field. But you have to have something that he's 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: going to change. You can't just say we're just gonna 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: go out there and see you'll throw the balls out 69 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: there and see what the boys do. No, Like, I 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: think he needs to have a plan, Like, how are 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: we gonna do something different? 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I have a plan. 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to sign a shortstop and I'm going to 74 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: cross my fingers that not all five starters are missing 75 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: a good. 76 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Junk of the year. That's step one. Brave's finished strong. 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Does anybody think the Braves are in a bad spot 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: for next year? 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: No? Well, any Austin Riley back he missed a chunk 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: of the year? 81 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 3: And what do they do with all these They're gonna 83 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: make that decision? 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Yep, He's gonna come back. 85 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: I mean, just yes, is Baldwin or Murphy or Catcher both? 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: Or do you trade all the answers? You try and 87 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: trade Murphy? 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Maybe? But I think that that had a nice year. 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 3: Michael Harris needs to be second half. Michael Harris right. 90 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Acunya needs to stay healthy because once he came back, 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: he was pretty good, and then you got to figure 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: out the bullpen. Iglesias is a free agent. You're gonna 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: have to make some bullpens. 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not on Snit. That's on Alex. I know. 95 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: But Snitt maybe just didn't want to do it. Like 96 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: I said, Sti's been doing this for a long time. 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: No, I understand that. I'm just saying. 98 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: He probably just didn't say, hey, you can manage again, 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: or you can just you can work once a month 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: and make a travel to the minor leagues and come 101 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: around and this and that. It's just like that don't 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: sound so bad. 103 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: I think, you know. 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm I'm also pointing out probably some of the minority online, 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: but some people were like, oh, Schnitt, he's got to 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: be gone, like this is the problem, Like shut up, 107 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with Snit this year. Yeah, 108 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: and I think he should get the ultimate respect. They'll 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: obviously honor him at the ballpark. 110 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of. 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Cool if you would figure this out, like with a 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: week or two to go, because the team wasn't in it, 113 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: and then you get to get in uniform and get 114 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: the thanks. I know, he didn't know, but like go 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: to dinner with Alex and like sit down. 116 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: And think about it. 117 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: It's okay. 118 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna get honored. It's fine, right, I 119 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: love snit. I thought he did a great job. He's 120 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: super emotional. They all show up at the press conference today. 121 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Kratz. 122 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: He says he feels like he left the team in 123 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: a better spot than when he entered. 124 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. 125 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: And you brought them a World Series title, and you 126 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: brought them consistent winning. 127 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ask for much more. 128 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: Nobody wins back to back or even a bunch of 129 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: titles together in a while now, right, So what he 130 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: did is about as much as you can wish for 131 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: if you're a baseball fan. 132 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: If you look at if you look at their five 133 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: starters that were supposed to start games for them this year, 134 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: it's ridiculous the fact that Spencer Strider, I think had 135 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: the most starts and he didn't come back from the 136 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: injury very well, Like he just didn't. He didn't have 137 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: a life on his fastball. Not everybody comes back from 138 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: Tommy John the first year and is exactly who they 139 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: were before. Not everybody, But it's crazy Schwellenbach was down. 140 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: Did they get a single start out of Ronaldo Lopez 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: who was an All Star last year like you are early. Yeah, 142 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: I don't remember when he went down, but it's crazy, 143 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: like you build a team and then you were trying 144 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: to The Braves do better than I think any organization 145 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: calling guys up that step in and are huge contributors 146 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: to the starting rotation. Huge swelling Box just did it 147 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: just the other year. Smith schalv just did it the 148 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: other year. But when you have to do it for 149 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: all five guys, that's almost impossible. Even even the Dodgers 150 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: struggled with that and they had ten starters to the 151 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: beginning of the season. 152 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hirst and Walson, you mentioned he had a really 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: nice find himself moment and here another with the team. 154 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: My X factor just drove into for Detroit by the way. 155 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Very nice. 156 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: So anyway, congratulations to Snit. Let's move on because there 157 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: are a number of other manager in front office changes 158 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: going on. Let's hit one that won't take up too 159 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: much time. But Bill Schmidt has been running point for 160 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: the Rockies for a minute. He's the GM and he 161 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: decided that he's going to step down. You never know 162 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: how the conversations go behind the scenes, but he said 163 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: he felt like the team needed to go in a 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: different direction. I don't doubt that based on how the 165 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Rockies performed this year in the past few years. 166 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Been there for a long time. 167 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean he was in a secondary role, yeah, and 168 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: now he's leading the pack. But they need something else. 169 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the Rockies are going to do an external search. 170 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: And if there's one team that needs to think outside 171 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: the box more than anyone. 172 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Else, it's Colorado. It's such a unique environment. 173 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: It's so difficult, crazy, crazy, and nobody's gonna care. Rockies 174 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: fans are all for whatever you want to do. First 175 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: of all, they're going to show up second ball. 176 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: You're good for anything. 177 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: They're like, try it, try it out. I think we're 178 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: in a place now where here I'm gonna mention this. 179 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember the exact details, but Dano Dowd I 180 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: think later in his tenure was trying some piggybacking and 181 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: some other things. And I think if you had done 182 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: that now, people would be like, yep, let's try that 183 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It was a little early because people 184 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: were like a little more get off my lawn. 185 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: Still, but I did talk to some people there in 186 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: Colorado the organization a little bit. And the thing about 187 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: Dano Dowd is like, you got to get syncer balls, 188 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: You got to get syncer ballers, And these people are saying, actually, no, 189 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: you need to get fly ball pitchers, and we contact 190 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: guys that throw the four seamer up and get pop 191 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: ups and get strikeouts, because that way it limits the 192 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 3: balls and play. If sncer ballers can't make the ball sink, 193 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: guess where sinks over the. 194 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: Fence, right? And you need three center fielders, and you. 195 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: Need three athletic as sell guys. You need dudes can 196 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: mash when when have the Rocky's been good when the. 197 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: I want infield mash outfield. 198 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Tracks, and I need guys that can get punch outs. 199 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: So you need high v low high guys up in 200 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: the zone. 201 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: And all of what we're saying is not easy to assembly. 202 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: No I know, but I'm just saying you got to 203 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: try something different. They're trying these sinkerballers and as soon 204 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: as they make one mistake they get whack. They don't 205 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: have a lot of high V. Low guys. 206 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 4: I think it's they do have a lot of high 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: vie low guys, But I think the pitching only just 208 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: hit on one specific thing. No, no, no, no. Out of 209 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: the pen. They've they've thrown a bunch of guys. They 210 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 4: don't throw strikes. They're not developing them in the minor 211 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: leagues to be able to throw strikes. They're rushing them 212 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: to the big leagues because they throw ninety seven to 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: one hundred, and then the big leagues guys are just 214 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: like no ball ball. My argument to that Aja would 215 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: be no place in the big leagues has as poor 216 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: of or has a larger variance of induced vertical break 217 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: than in Colorado. So guys that have seventeen inches of 218 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: induced vertical break, which is just medium across the board, 219 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: it's like one and a half inches less in Colorado. 220 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: So they're not getting that induced break. But guys have 221 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: had great seasons there, Like it's not what do those 222 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: guys do? And then mimic that. Jorge Dela Rosa had 223 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: a great career there. Kyle Freeland. I think he was 224 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: like almost an eight war player his second year. I 225 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: think like seventeen or eighteen, what do they do? Mimic that. 226 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Obaldo. 227 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 3: Also, if you was a high fastball split guy. 228 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 2: If you get somebody sick, then but also somebody you're 229 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: saying the induced vertical break goes down, Well, then get 230 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: somebody who is like top ten percent, and then it's 231 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: not going to be as much of a factor. 232 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're still gonna you're not gonna get the 233 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 4: like if you get if you get Josh Hayter, if 234 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: you get Jonah Thong, two dudes. You know, I'm just 235 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: thinking about like unique guys with like induced vertical break, 236 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: it's gonna go down. So maybe there's something in that formula. 237 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: If you're all about the analytics, that's going to give 238 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: you those answers like or Hey, Dalil Rossa. The only 239 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: reason I would keep bring him up is because he 240 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: grew up in Mexico City. He pitched at higher elevation. 241 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: There's something to do with that, and they need to 242 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: just hammer that. They need to hammer it and say, 243 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 4: now the rest of the league's doing this, We're gonna 244 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: do this. If it doesn't work, where are they They're 245 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: the same place they are now with forty four wins. 246 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Kyle Frieland did that for the record. He 247 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: grew up in Denver. 248 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: He's an average His numbers park factor in I've been 249 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: an average starter, which is fine. He's a three four 250 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: starter for them. In that scenario, his AAR looks bad, 251 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: but his numbers look good. Hey, make sure you subscribe 252 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: to foul Territory next goals. Three hundred one thousand subs 253 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: were in the mid two hundred and seventies. Right now, 254 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: it's baseball the way it should be covered. 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I think they might have found someone. 266 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: His name's Albert Poohols, and according to Ken Rosenthal and 267 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 2: some others with the Athletic, he seems to be. 268 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: The front runner. 269 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: In that article, they say one source told them it 270 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: might even be up to Albert at this point. Also, 271 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: it sounds like perimination. The GM has nothing to do 272 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: with this. This is already saying I want Albert, and 273 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: Albert has the call if he wants to do it. 274 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: He's also the manager for Team Dominican Republican the WBC. 275 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: You probably can't do that. 276 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: You can't do that, So he has that decision because 277 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: that is a big legacy thing to be able to do. 278 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: If you're Albert, he might want. 279 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: To do that after he gets after he's done with 280 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: the Angels, he can always. 281 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: Go back to the Dominican exactly, and the Angel's job 282 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: might not be available for you in a year. So 283 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: what do we think about Albert Pooholts potentially managing the Angels. 284 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. I don't know. Does he change 285 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: that much? I don't know. I never played with Albert. 286 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: I was around Albert a little bit. He's a Hall 287 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: of Fame hitter, he's a player, and I don't know. 288 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Ron Washington had a lot of experience. Didn't help. 289 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: They had a bad divorce. 290 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: By the way that people are overlooking and now you 291 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: know they're saying already loves Albert, so clearly they cleaned it. 292 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: Have to pay him. Can they just say this is 293 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: your clause, you're after career. 294 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: They can just not pay him Albert like. 295 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: You like Albert, you're the manager. Oh yeah, this is 296 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: your million dollars you get here. 297 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: He's gonna make them give him more Albert like yes, 298 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: but he is already being paid a million bucks per 299 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: year over a ten year span after he retires as 300 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: part of his personal services agreement. 301 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: But Kratz, remember. 302 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, they cut him and I'm looking 303 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: at this article from Ken back then, no pomping circumstance, 304 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: and it was kind of ugly, and he didn't want 305 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: to be on the bench and it was a painful thing. 306 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: Ken said to even write about it because of the 307 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: legacy of Albert Poohol's But he was not performing for 308 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: them for a while and was able to have a 309 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: nice finish to his career. But hey, they've clearly patched 310 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: things up, and now they're trying to see if he 311 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: can rescue the Angels. 312 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: Good thing they patched it up. I love to hear that, 313 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: because he signed a massive contract with them and he 314 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: could have been part of their history. My thing is 315 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: go back to history. How many superstars, superstars, Hall of 316 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: famers become good managers. I don't know, But maybe he's 317 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: going to be the one that will be one of 318 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: the first. 319 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: He was certainly optimistic as he was in spring training 320 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: with the team, what six months ago, you know, they 321 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: lost ninety nine games in twenty twenty four. And then 322 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: digging up some quotes here, he said, the organization has 323 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: done a great job to put a great product on 324 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: the field, not just in the big leagues, but minor leagues, 325 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: and hopefully they win. And then he was asked to 326 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: exactly if he felt like the Angels were putting a 327 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: winning product on the field. He said, they put out 328 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: a winning product every year. The problem is injuries. 329 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: The problem is the record doesn't state that. The problem 330 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: is the record doesn't state that they put winning product 331 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: out on the field every year. 332 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hey, that's it's because every team has injuries. 333 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: Look at the Houston Astros and injuries they had this year, 334 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: they still were a winning team. 335 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: There's plenty of teams that all The Angels are not 336 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: leading the. 337 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Pack and injuries exactly that point. 338 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're leading the pack in bad decisions or among 339 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: the leaders in bad decisions. But to me that was 340 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: like an overly drink the kool age kind of. 341 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: I worked for the team and I like my million 342 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: dollars a year. Quote. 343 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have to be more real as 344 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: a manager though. 345 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: But he hasn't hidden the fact he wants to be 346 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: a manager. 347 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: He definitely wants to come out. 348 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: And said I want to be a manager. We all 349 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: thought it would be maybe the Cardinals. Yes, but the 350 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: Cardinals are keeping so that closed this. So there, maybe 351 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: he goes manages the Dominican for a year and then 352 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: goes try and get the Cardinals. If all he's not 353 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: there anymore? 354 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Is this a good fit for Albert? 355 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: Dude, there's thirty of them. You want to be a manager, 356 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: someone offers you, you take it right, Cratzy. There's thirty 357 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: of them. 358 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: If you want it bad enough, And there's other people 359 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: who are pining for a managerial job. To me, I 360 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: don't think that creates a situation to have success. If 361 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I have to I want to be 362 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: a manager so bad, I'm gonna go call this guy 363 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: and make sure he puts my name out there. Oh man, 364 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: tell everybody I want to be a manager. A manager 365 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: is a selfless job. It is not a promote yourself 366 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: type of thing. If you want to be a manager, 367 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: sometimes you got to take some that may not be 368 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: a great fit. You gotta do what you know. You 369 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: gotta get in line. You gotta get in line. You 370 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: can't get the first biggest job. He can't be like 371 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: man Albert can't sit there and go man, I hope 372 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: Aaron Boone gets fired so I can be the Yankees manager. No, 373 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: he's got to take a job. I wouldn't think the 374 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: Angels should be a job like this, but they really 375 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: have become that in the last few years, where you 376 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: go in you get your feet wet. They've tried managers 377 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: who've had past success and that didn't go well. So 378 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: now they're going for the big name guy who's trying 379 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: to get his feet wet as a manager. I just 380 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: I'm leery of it. But I'm definitely here to watch it, 381 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 382 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be entertaining. 383 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: Boone didn't have experience. He went right from the TV 384 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: booth right to manage the Yankees. 385 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: Yea, you guys have done this. 386 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: Alex Horror wasn't a manager, He's a manage in the 387 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: Red Sox. 388 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh. 389 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it couldn't work. I'm just saying they're 390 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: managing the Red Sox and the Yankees. This is the Angels. 391 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: This is difficult. It is it's difficult. 392 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: They've had a. 393 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: Yourial job has its own difficulty, depending on where you 394 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: are and what you're doing. 395 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: This will be their sixth manager in the last nine seasons. 396 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: It's become a graveyard. Nobody's gotten even to two and 397 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: a half seasons of managing this team. 398 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: That you need to give somebody five years. Maybe Albert 399 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: Poohols is the guy they had. Arty Morino trusts enough 400 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: and says, I'll give you the five years. Albert figured out. 401 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: I would say five years, and you have to I don't. 402 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: It's not even about the money and the job security. 403 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: I get to manage this team for five years no 404 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: matter what, or you give up the team. But there's 405 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: no assurances. He could sign a five year deal and 406 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: he can still chop him after two or three years. 407 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean he did it to Austmis Madden, Nevin wash 408 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: Montgomery temporarily. It's a graveyard. I'm just saying it's a 409 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 2: really challenging position. I mean, look at it right now. 410 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: They have a lame duck general manager who's probably still 411 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: going to GM the team for another year, who doesn't 412 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: get to basically have a say in this, and then 413 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: the owner's doing it. That alone should tell you how screwed. 414 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: I also remember when they signed pool Holes that wasn't 415 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 3: a general manager? Wasn't that wasn't that also already? And 416 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: then when they went and got Rendon, wasn't that also 417 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: already because they missed Garrett cole Yes, And he said, 418 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: oh no, I'm going to get somebody, so I'm just 419 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: gonna give him throw money at Rendome. 420 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: He said, who else you got to? 421 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 422 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: You know? 423 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: So, I mean, as this isn't the first time that 424 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: Already has done something like this, so I don't know 425 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: why we're surprised Jerry Reinestorff did this. When he hired 426 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: Tony LaRussa, the whole organization thought they had a j 427 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: hinch and Jerry's like, not so fast, my friends, I've 428 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: got my hire, my buddy. 429 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: It's called my team, my money, my team. 430 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: My team. 431 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I want. 432 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: I just feel for Angels fans, that's all. I've had 433 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: an up and down relationship with them, but I feel 434 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: for them, and I hope that Albert's the guy. 435 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: Angels used to be. I mean, I lost the Angels 436 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: in two thousand and two in the playoffs. I used 437 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: to be an unbelieva organization. Haven't been to the playoffs? 438 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: How long since twelve? Trout's what first or second year? 439 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen? They haven't won a playoff? Games is twenty twelve? 440 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: What was the Royal Sweepcrats? You're the Royals xteen fourteen fourteen? Okay, yeah, 441 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: now Trats passes prime. 442 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: We know that. 443 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: So this is the problem with baseball is you have 444 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 2: a legendary player who doesn't get to shine in October. 445 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: And that's how our sport stands out, and that's how 446 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: any sports stands out. You would never have Lebron not 447 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: playing in the playoffs for in his entire career. 448 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: It would be really played in the playoffs. Yeah, for 449 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: five minutes, that's all. 450 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: So Anyway, in summary, it sounds like Pooholes is going 451 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: to get the job. It's going to be really fun 452 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: to follow. 453 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be awesome. 454 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: But if I had to make a decision right now, 455 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I think it's not going to work out. Well, sorry, 456 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: that's what we that's our job on this show. Sometimes 457 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: you're right, sometimes you're wrong. I think it's this is 458 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: it works out for him, Yeah, superstars. 459 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: Superstars need to be able to connect with every single player. 460 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: You need to connect with the Latin player, the American player, 461 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: the pitcher, the relievers, the guys who you have to 462 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: send down three times a year, and the superstars. And 463 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: if Albert can do that, he becomes a good manager. 464 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: If he has no idea what it's like to be 465 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: sent down, because in his Hall of Fame career he 466 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: never was sent down, he never went through the same 467 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: struggles that majority of his team is going to str with, 468 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: then it's gonna be hard for him to connect. So 469 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: the guys he has around him are gonna be as 470 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 4: far as other coaches are gonna be huge too. So 471 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: his success will really dictate based on how he can 472 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: connect with the players that he has. 473 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: On his roster. 474 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: I just think it's weird now to put Perry in 475 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: this spot where he's a lame dup. 476 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: It's it's it's messy.