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Speaker 1: his heart, and it was done by a nine millimeter block. Now,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that we also relied upon in

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Speaker 1: our conclusion is something that is called under the law,

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Speaker 1: or referred to as an excited utterance, and that's when

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Speaker 1: someone makes an immediate statement and because it is made

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Speaker 1: without the ability to consult with counsel or to think

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Speaker 1: about it, under the law of an excited utterance is

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Speaker 1: considered as highly reliable. And at the time that the

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Speaker 1: shot was fired, the utterance made by Officer Roff was

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Speaker 1: I got it. That was a statement that was made

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Speaker 1: at that time. We also noted that Officer Roff was

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Speaker 1: firing a taser at mister Brooks. The City of Atlanta

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Speaker 1: SOPs in fact prohibit officers from firing tasers at someone

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Speaker 1: who is running away. So the City of Atlanta says,

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Speaker 1: you cannot even fire a taser at someone who is

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Speaker 1: running away. So you certainly can't fire a gun, a

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Speaker 1: handgun at someone who is running away. So, in addition

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Speaker 1: to our findings, as many of you all already know,

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Speaker 1: that the Atlanta mayor, Mayor Keisha Bottoms and the Police

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Speaker 1: Department concluded that Officer Roth's actions were excessive and in

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Speaker 1: violation of APD's SOPD. As an SOP I believe it's

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Speaker 1: four point one point one, and after their analysis that

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Speaker 1: the actions were excessive, Officer Roth was fired. We have

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Speaker 1: also concluded that Roth was aware that the taser in

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Speaker 1: Brooks's possession, that it was fired twice, and once it's

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Speaker 1: fired twice, it presented no danger to him. Are there

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Speaker 1: any other persons? Now, we have had something quite remarkable

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Speaker 1: to happen, and it involves the testimony of the other officer,

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Speaker 1: Devin Brosden. Because Officer Brosden has now become a state's witness,

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Speaker 1: he has decided to testify on behalf of the state

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Speaker 1: in this case. What he has said to us, that is,

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Speaker 1: within a matter of days, he plans to make a

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Speaker 1: statement regarding the culpability of Officer Roth, but he indicated

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Speaker 1: that he is not psychological willing to give that statement

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Speaker 1: to date. Officer Brosdon, however, has admitted that he was

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Speaker 1: in fact standing on mister Brooks's body immediately after the shooting.

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Speaker 1: So these are the charges that we have had fili

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Speaker 1: day signed by one of our superior court judges. These

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Speaker 1: are the eleven charges against Officer Roth. The first charge

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Speaker 1: is felony murder. This is a death that is as

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Speaker 1: a result of an underlying felony, and in this case,

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Speaker 1: the underlying felony is aggravating the salt with a deadly weapon,

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Speaker 1: and the possible sentences for a felony murder conviction would

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Speaker 1: be life, life with our parole or the death penalty.

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Speaker 1: Now he's also charged by in the rest warrant with

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Speaker 1: aggivated assault with a deadly weapon, and this is an

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Speaker 1: account charging him for the shooting of mister Brooks, and

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Speaker 1: the possible sentence for aggivated assault is one of the

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Speaker 1: twenty years. The second or the third aggivated assault account

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Speaker 1: is for the shooting towards our in the direction of

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Speaker 1: mister Melvin Evans. Mister Evans was the person who was

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Speaker 1: seated in the car. We have the picture of mister

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Speaker 1: Hope and if you would point out this automobile is

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Speaker 1: the place that mister Evans and his two companions were

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Speaker 1: driving and the shot was fired, and I believe we've

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Speaker 1: also got a photo of the shot that ended up

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Speaker 1: in the vehicle. Thank you. Gotta standing up. And so

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Speaker 1: with count um four, uh with at who was in

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Speaker 1: I think a little difficulty there. As soon as we

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Speaker 1: get the audio back, uh, if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 1: Uh wow, just unfolding really and in live time before

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Speaker 1: our eyes here and that was Paul. All right, we

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Speaker 1: have the audio back. Paul Howard, Junior, Pulton County DA

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Speaker 1: towards or in the direction of Michael Perkins. Mister Perkins

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Speaker 1: seated in the rear of this same vehicle at that time.

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Speaker 1: There's a charge for criminal damage for shooting into that vehicle. Also,

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Speaker 1: Officer Roff is also Officer Roff is charged with seven

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Speaker 1: violations of office. Each one of those carries a one

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Speaker 1: to five sentence. These are violations of his oath of

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Speaker 1: office for the City of Atlanta, arresting mister Brooks for

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Speaker 1: the d UI without immediately informing him of the arrests,

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Speaker 1: shooting a taser at mister Brooks while he was running away,

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Speaker 1: which again is a violation. All right, uh wow, if

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Speaker 1: you're just joining us, a lot to go through here.

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Speaker 1: That's Paul Howard, Junior, Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney saying

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Speaker 1: a lot there. The second officer, not the one that

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Speaker 1: fired the shot, apparently is turned state witness. There are

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Speaker 1: eleven specific charges in this case, and starting with felony murder,

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Speaker 1: aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, possible life sentence for

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Speaker 1: Officer Rolf. All right, glad you with us, Howard too,

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show, We start with the breaking news. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a question and answer period. The DA of Fulton

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Speaker 1: County in Georgia, Paul Howard, has now announced these charging

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Speaker 1: officer Garrett Rolf that is the officer in this Wendy's

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Speaker 1: parking lot shooting that took place with eleven counts including

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Speaker 1: felony murder, aggravated assault, criminal damage to property, violations of

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Speaker 1: his oath. Officer Devon Bronson is being charged with aggravated

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Speaker 1: assault and two violations of his oath of office. The

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Speaker 1: DA said they were able to interview several witnesses to

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Speaker 1: the shooting, as well as eight videos that recorded the incident,

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Speaker 1: including the surveillance, the bodycams, personal cell phones of people

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Speaker 1: that were there a witnesses. He said that they have

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Speaker 1: examined the tasers stun guns used. I never had an

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Speaker 1: answer to this question to shoot once or twice. That

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Speaker 1: was resolved, that shot twice. He talked also about the

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Speaker 1: officers failing to render aid, which by law they need

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Speaker 1: to do as quickly as possible, and it took two

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Speaker 1: minutes and twelve seconds. He talked a lot about the

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Speaker 1: original time lapse in this forty one minute, seventeen seconds

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Speaker 1: and That was a point that I made in my

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Speaker 1: analysis of this is that up until the moment when

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Speaker 1: the officers tried to cuff in this particular case, Raychard Brooks,

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Speaker 1: everything was fine. Everyone's seeing professional, courteous. It was even

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Speaker 1: a rapport established. In the case of officer the second officer,

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Speaker 1: Devon Bronson, he had said, I'm sorry to hear about

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Speaker 1: your mother's death. We just got to do this. Make

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Speaker 1: it's make sure it's okay for you to drive. Then

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Speaker 1: as that moment everything changed. There's a lot of other,

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Speaker 1: you know, other issues involved in this. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to our legal panel here in just a second, but

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Speaker 1: the two minutes twelve seconds. He also I had not

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Speaker 1: heard this by anybody before the DA, claiming that the

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Speaker 1: one the officer involved in the actual shooter shooting incident,

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Speaker 1: Officer rolf had actually kicked mister Brooks as he was

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Officer Bronson said he stood on mister

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Speaker 1: Brooks's shoulder. Not sure exactly what that is, but you

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Speaker 1: gotta understand here, when we're talking about the charges eleven total,

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Speaker 1: and that they're charging him for felony murdered, that could

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Speaker 1: be a life. That could be life if you talk

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Speaker 1: about the second charge, aggravated assault in that particular charge,

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Speaker 1: now you're talking about one. I'm sorry, you're literally now

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Speaker 1: one to twenty years. That's aggravated assault with a deadly weapon,

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Speaker 1: criminal damage to property, violation of oath. Now the biggest

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Speaker 1: I think the most interesting development to me in this

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Speaker 1: is that the second officer, Devin Bronson, apparently has turned

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Speaker 1: to state witness says he will make a statement on

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Speaker 1: the culpability of Officer Rolf who was the actual actually

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Speaker 1: involved in the shooting, did admit that he stood on

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Speaker 1: his shoulder after the shooting. I'm sure there's video of

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Speaker 1: that and anyway here to break down this from a

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Speaker 1: legal point of view, we bring in David Shoon's Civil

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Speaker 1: Liberties Attorney board member. By the way, Alabama Civil Liberties

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Speaker 1: Union former board member Leo Terrell, civil rights attorney is

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Speaker 1: with us Vince Ellison, conservative columnist, lecturer, author of the

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Speaker 1: book They Iron Triangle. Leo, I'm gonna start with you today.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times in these cases, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have what we call overcharging, right, I think that And

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Speaker 1: it was an interesting post on Twitter by by Jonathan Turley,

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine said and talking about this specific

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Speaker 1: case and what he was saying, the new evidence is

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Speaker 1: important and any abuse following the shooting could be a

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Speaker 1: basis for different charges. He talks about Tennessee v. Gardner.

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Speaker 1: You know, would would would focus on the actual shooting itself,

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Speaker 1: and you have a wide variety of charges here, and

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Speaker 1: that Gardners would be focused on the shooting, not the

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Speaker 1: abuse following the shooting. But now that the other officer

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Speaker 1: is a state witness that will testify against Rolf, that's

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Speaker 1: Bronson against Wolf, I agree with him, that could be

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Speaker 1: a game changer. Under the case law in the area,

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Speaker 1: it would otherwise be a lot tougher for the prosecution.

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Speaker 1: Now there will be a jury of twelve people that

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Speaker 1: will ultimately now make these decisions. And in other cases

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Speaker 1: we've seen and we've witnessed this over the years, Leo,

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Speaker 1: and if you overcharge, you take a great risk in

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Speaker 1: doing so. What are your thoughts, Well, Sean, you did

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Speaker 1: a great summary of this and I got twenty five

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Speaker 1: years of police miss conduct cases and I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: right now very clearly, first of all, overcharging, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. Tennessee Gardner is in play. Is the case

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Speaker 1: that basically concerns what was in Rows state of mind.

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Speaker 1: The other officer can't tell the jury what was in

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Speaker 1: Rows state of mind when he fired those shots. Let's

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Speaker 1: also remember that mister Brooks, when he was running, he

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Speaker 1: was a flee seller himself, and that's gonna be played

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Speaker 1: because he assaulted those officers, took the officers stun gun

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Speaker 1: and start running. So he is a flee feller. Not

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Speaker 1: like the situation we have in the Floyd case. This

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Speaker 1: case is totally separate. So there's a lot of facts

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Speaker 1: of the district attorney did not talk about, and of

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Speaker 1: course he did not make any reference or any statements

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Speaker 1: as to what was in officers rows state of mind

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't know what I'm saying. Well, he did

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Speaker 1: try to say. He tried to imply with his immediate

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Speaker 1: what they call utterance when he said, apparently on tape,

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Speaker 1: I got him. You don't know. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you interpret that word I got him other than meaning

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Speaker 1: that he aimed and he shot and he didn't miss

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Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, you can interpret it

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Speaker 1: a million ways. In my view, you're rate that statement

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Speaker 1: I got him. He's that after he failed. Down Again,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about what led up to him firing that weapon.

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Speaker 1: What did he see? What did he see or did

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Speaker 1: he fear? For example, that he thought that he was

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Speaker 1: going to be shot with the stun gun, that he

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Speaker 1: was going to be overpowered, and this guy was going

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Speaker 1: to take his his gut weapon from him. There is

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Speaker 1: a variety of different factors. Let me sum up by

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Speaker 1: saying that this is a jury fact question overcharge. I

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Speaker 1: think they weigh overcharged selling the murdered. That meant that

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Speaker 1: basically the officer was committee felony as he was pursuing

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Speaker 1: him with his gun and shot it regardless. There's one

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Speaker 1: other interesting thing that he said. Under Georgia law, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to fire a taser at anyone running away. Well,

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Speaker 1: there might be a mitigating circumstance, that being that he

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Speaker 1: turned around and I believe from what I saw, fired

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Speaker 1: the taser in the direction of the officer. He made

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Speaker 1: another statement that Officer Rolf was aware that the taser

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Speaker 1: had been fired twice. I've been waiting to hear how

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Speaker 1: many times that taser could be fired again. There will

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Speaker 1: be a defense and a defense attorney that is going

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Speaker 1: to challenge all of that. Let me let me follow up.

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Speaker 1: I saved that you have had a lot of experts

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Speaker 1: on your show, a lot of police experts who are

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Speaker 1: going to justify this officer's conduct. And let me tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, Georgia state law is one thing. But

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Speaker 1: that US Supreme Court case that you keep mentionedy the

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Speaker 1: listeners should know Tennessee versus Gardner and Graham versus Connor.

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Speaker 1: Those cases control everything. Shote bomb line, tough case. Either

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Speaker 1: he will overcharge. And let's not forget the DA is

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Speaker 1: up for reelection. Let's go to David Shoon, your defense attorney.

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Speaker 1: This is what you do. How do you look at

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Speaker 1: the case, the charges, and everything else in between. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I suppose I agree and disagree with some of what

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Speaker 1: mister Treille said. First of all, the Cousti charge felony murder,

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Speaker 1: the officer's state of mind is not directly relevant. That

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Speaker 1: is what they One advantage the government has is they

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Speaker 1: don't have to prove malice under Georgia law. The statue

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Speaker 1: read sixty and five to one s person commits defensive

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Speaker 1: felony murder. A commission of a felony causes the death

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Speaker 1: of another without irrespective of malice. I think it's an

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Speaker 1: overcharge because it shouldn't have been charged a felony murder.

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Speaker 1: They had to struggle at first. The felony murder has

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Speaker 1: to be an assault was committed something like that. The

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Speaker 1: key here it's a self defense case from the defense standpoint,

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Speaker 1: and the bad facts though for that is that he

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Speaker 1: was shot in the back. A taser can be considered

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Speaker 1: a deadly weapon. If he fired the taser the officer,

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Speaker 1: and the officer convinces the jury he feared for his life,

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Speaker 1: then the officer could win Tennessee versus. Gardner says, you

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Speaker 1: can't just shoot a fleeing felon. You have to believe

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Speaker 1: that he was posed an immocent, imminent danger to yourself

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Speaker 1: or to a third. Okay, based on the tape as

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Speaker 1: you see it. From a legal perspective, again, you're a

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Speaker 1: defense attorney, a civil rights attorney like Leo. When the when,

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Speaker 1: when in fact they turned and shot the taser? Does

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Speaker 1: that then make the standard? In other words, this is

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Speaker 1: a legal question, does that legally warrant turn in? It

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Speaker 1: can turn in a matter of seconds if he's facing him,

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Speaker 1: and that's when the cops shoots. The cop has a

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Speaker 1: lot better case Once he turned. The forensic shows he

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Speaker 1: shot him in the back. He was running away. Apparently

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Speaker 1: we don't know that yet. A different forensic law says

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to fire a taser and anyone running away.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the law, by the way, around the country,

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Speaker 1: there are a number of cases it say, as long

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Speaker 1: as the person did no longer posed and spend his threat,

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Speaker 1: you can't even fire a taser at him. It sounds counterintuitive,

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Speaker 1: but that's the law. I had a case in Alabama

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Speaker 1: in which guy was running away and the cop understood

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Speaker 1: the law to be because he had committed a felony,

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Speaker 1: he could shoot him. He shot him and killed him.

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Speaker 1: That cop ended up becoming our best witness because that

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Speaker 1: was a mistaken policy. The jurisdiction hadn't changed it after

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Speaker 1: Tennessee versus Gardner Vince Ellison. I know you're not an

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Speaker 1: attorney by background. We have a lot of horrific things

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Speaker 1: that we've been watching going around the country. Universally, everyone's

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Speaker 1: condemned what happened to George Floyd. Very different case here,

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Speaker 1: still sad and tragic, and he just you know, if

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Speaker 1: you go all that time, forty one minutes and seventeen seconds,

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Speaker 1: and everyone was professional courteous, respectful, and it's so sad

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Speaker 1: all of it to me. Well, those two, the two

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Speaker 1: lawyers who have gave great, great analysis. Here's the political analysis.

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Speaker 1: Those officers didn't have a chance. They saw the mob

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Speaker 1: in that last and they were going to charge them

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Speaker 1: no matter what. That is the political landscape the guy

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Speaker 1: got But let me, let me, let me play Devil's advocate.

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Speaker 1: I'm playing it on both sides now, okay, But he

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Speaker 1: got shot twice in the back. Is it if you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to fire a taser at anyone running away,

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Speaker 1: the guy turns back and shoots it, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to prove that he knew that it had been fired twice.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know whether it had one or two shots

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Speaker 1: at that moment. Is that? Does that meet the legal standard?

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Speaker 1: In other words? In other words, that you believe there's

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Speaker 1: a real threat of physical injury. Well, for my law

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Speaker 1: enforcement experience, you know, I was a corressonal officer. I

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Speaker 1: think I've done I don't think officers should have to

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Speaker 1: take any type of punishment. I think he chose to

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Speaker 1: turn around and shoot at the officer. The officer, whatever

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Speaker 1: his mind, will have to testify as that. But politically,

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Speaker 1: it did not matter what happened. Those officers are going

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Speaker 1: to go down. That ain't the biggest game changers. The

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Speaker 1: other officers, attorney, state witnesses, announced by the DA, by

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I'm

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Speaker 1: troubled by that. First of all, I said, Ellison is

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. But I'll tell you what I'm troubled by.

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Speaker 1: The prosecutor here went well beyond what he's entitled to

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Speaker 1: do under the rules of ethics, both the American Bar

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Speaker 1: Association Standards for the prosecution and George's rules of ethics.

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Speaker 1: He cannot align himself exclusively with the victim, throw the

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Speaker 1: cop under the or any any defendant under the bus,

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Speaker 1: and then host a press conference for a great lawyer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was all right. Stay on that point,

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Speaker 1: David Leo Terrell, David shown Vince Ellison. More on the

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Speaker 1: other side, Bill O'Reilly. Today we are one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine days out of an election. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that doctor oz on whether or not it's a second

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Speaker 1: wave of COVID, And as we roll along eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine four one, Sean, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program, Bill O'Reilly at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour. Yeah, we still do have an election in

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine days. We'll get us take

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Speaker 1: on that. Also, we'll check in with doctor Oz, the rise, COVID,

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Speaker 1: protest rallies and everything in between. But the Fulton County

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Speaker 1: District Attorney Paul Howard announcing that the officer in the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta shooting at the Wendy's Park a lot now has

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Speaker 1: well been charged with many separate issues, including felony murder

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Speaker 1: aggravated assault. Could be a life or even a death

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Speaker 1: penalty case. Anyway, all right, we don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, David. The point you were making on this,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to get Leo's take. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: point I was making is the prosecutor went way overboard

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Speaker 1: today in holding this press conference and hosting a victim's lawyer.

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Speaker 1: He has to be neutral. The public depends on it,

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Speaker 1: The integrity system depends on it. These two experts have

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Speaker 1: told you like it is. Mister Ellison is right. Politically,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough political climate. Mister Terrell is an expert

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Speaker 1: in police misconduct. He knows about people running away. He

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Speaker 1: demanded an investigation nineteen ninet nine in the Mitchell case

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Speaker 1: for that. So he's calling it straight for you, but

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor's got to be neutral. What's tough in this

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Speaker 1: case is it's tough to beat forensics in the back.

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Speaker 1: Is a tough, tough way to go with self defense.

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Speaker 1: And you've got his fellow officer turning state's witness in

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Speaker 1: this case. Leo, I agree with thanks David from the comments,

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Speaker 1: and I agree. Look, this was this was a performance.

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Speaker 1: He was arguing. The district attorney was arguing his case

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Speaker 1: before the public. He argues his case in the court

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Speaker 1: of law, and that today was well beyond just laying

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Speaker 1: out the facts, what I think is also very important.

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Speaker 1: That gives a defense attorney now and opportunity. If I'm

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Speaker 1: a defense attorney, I'm loving it. But I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: from an ethical standpoint, as David point out, totally inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: Totally inappropriate. And I guarantee you this case is going

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Speaker 1: to take place six seven months down the line after

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Speaker 1: the elections, totally political motivated in this climate overcharge. Vince

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Speaker 1: Sellison thoughts, yeah, man, they they're allowing mob rule to

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Speaker 1: dictate justice. And you found the brave people in times

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Speaker 1: like these We've seen the old Westerns where lynch mob

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Speaker 1: comes to a jail to take a guy and hang him,

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Speaker 1: and the sheriff stands here by yourself with one gun

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Speaker 1: and back them all up. We don't have that anymore

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Speaker 1: these people, look, you know, but ultimately this is where

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Speaker 1: it goes. Vince. You you gotta convince a jury of

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Speaker 1: twelve beyond a reasonable doubt. Leo David, the lawyers you

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Speaker 1: agree that's a high standard, right, Oh, yes, okay, you

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Speaker 1: want all you needs one? All right? So with that

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Speaker 1: in mind, Vince, you know this this will play out.

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Speaker 1: Justice will be the process are The process is the punishment.

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Speaker 1: They filed these men, they slanted their names, they destroyed

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Speaker 1: their reputation, and so the process is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: grueling one. And they're gonna put thisiness between this and

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Speaker 1: what happened. And they were afraid of the mob playing

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Speaker 1: this something. They know what they do is wrong, but

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Speaker 1: they're cowards and they've been doing this for years in

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Speaker 1: these democratics. I think you're talking to sort of a

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Speaker 1: political argument. I'm looking at the legal side. It is

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Speaker 1: gonna be what it's gonna be. It's gonna be twelve

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Speaker 1: people on a jury that decide. All right, Vince, thank you, David,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Leo, Thank you Leo, and t V tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Now, getting back to your first question, which was,

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Speaker 1: what about months or so or two or three ago

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Speaker 1: when people were saying, you don't really need to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask. Well, the reason for that is that we

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Speaker 1: were concerned the public health community and many people were

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Speaker 1: saying this, were concerned that it was at a time

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Speaker 1: when personal protective equipment, including the N ninety five masks

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Speaker 1: and the surgical masks, were in very short supply, and

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Speaker 1: we wanted to make sure that the people, namely the

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Speaker 1: healthcare workers who are brave enough to put themselves in

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Speaker 1: a harm way to take care of people who you know,

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Speaker 1: were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them

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Speaker 1: getting infected, We did not want them to be without

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Speaker 1: the equipment that they needed, all right, Well, not everybody

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Speaker 1: had to have an N ninety five mask. Look, I

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Speaker 1: use this one anecdote over and over and over and

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Speaker 1: over again. Had a conversation with a woman at my

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Speaker 1: local grocery store, and I see the same guys in

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Speaker 1: the shelves, same cashiers every week, and in my particular

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Speaker 1: grocery store, my particular pharmacy, nobody ever got COVID. Everybody

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Speaker 1: wore a mask. I didn't see many people within ninety

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Speaker 1: five masks on. I saw a couple, but not many.

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Speaker 1: So I'm at face shields even but nobody in either

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Speaker 1: store got it now, doctor Fauci. And it's not a criticism.

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Speaker 1: This was evolving. We were all led to We've got

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Speaker 1: over everybody's timeline. The worst decision made by the four

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Speaker 1: governors in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan, and

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Speaker 1: that was they didn't protect the vulnerable. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: blaming doctor Fauci. But you know, and I know some

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Speaker 1: of you are upset that I say, just wear the masks,

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Speaker 1: let's open, let's open safely. And I get it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I certainly have a different perspective, but it worked, And

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Speaker 1: that anecdote for me is very powerful because at the

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Speaker 1: epicenter of this virus, the guys that were in the stores,

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Speaker 1: seeing the most amount of people every day never got it,

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Speaker 1: not one, and they all wore masks, most wore gloves.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I like to learn from the things

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Speaker 1: that worked and we did well and adjust and change

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Speaker 1: the things that we did wrong. Now with that said,

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody was talking about COVID nineteen at all

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Speaker 1: on the left when the protests which still are going

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Speaker 1: on and a city blocks now taken over, and even

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Speaker 1: some of the politicians. We're out there marching with no

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Speaker 1: social distancing at all, and not everybody at a mask

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Speaker 1: during these protests. But now that Donald Trump is going

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Speaker 1: to have a rally in Oklahoma this weekend, now we're

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Speaker 1: back to talking about how it can't be safe. So

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Speaker 1: my humble suggestion is the President just needs to call

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Speaker 1: it a protest and then I guess they'll be fine

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Speaker 1: with it. But by the way, everybody will have a

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Speaker 1: mask on at the rally. Probably the president will not

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Speaker 1: because he will be completely social socially distant. Anyway, here

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Speaker 1: to weigh in and update us, they're now about nineteen states.

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Speaker 1: I always said it's if not when. I'm sorry, it's

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Speaker 1: when not if that we're going to have hot spots.

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Speaker 1: We've seen them and we've dealt with a number of

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Speaker 1: them very successfully. We bring back our medical a team

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Speaker 1: that conan only one thing, doctor, sir, how are you

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Speaker 1: so I'm doing well? You know, it's interesting we look

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Speaker 1: at the expectations we've all crafted. And just to follow

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Speaker 1: up on what you were saying, the Swedish Minister of

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Speaker 1: Health and the folks who crafted their program to keep

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Speaker 1: the country open always made one really poignant point and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say about it except they're right,

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Speaker 1: which is, yes, we didn't shut down. The rest of

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00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: the world's mostly shut down. We get the difference, and

854
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: our country is okay, we're doing. Your country's okay with

855
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But one day you're going to have

856
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: to open. And when you do open, you're basically can

857
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: be using our model, the Swedish model. So now we're

858
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: the Swedish model. We're opening up many parts of the country.

859
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: You're pretty wide open, but we've got to deal with it.

860
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: The way Sweden dealt with them, how did they get

861
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: through this without a catastrophe. They doubled down on social distancing,

862
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: wearing masks. People just acted responsibly and calmly towards each other. Day.

863
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: By the way, also had a problem in the nursing

864
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: homes you mentioned the four states that really got hit hard.

865
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: That's when are we just cannot compromise. I went to

866
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: a nursing home in New Jersey which is what my

867
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: home is. A friend of mine actually runs a couple

868
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: and I wanted to see what it looks like, what

869
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: are the real issues, and he and all the people

870
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: may the nursing one was lit. Was livid that for

871
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: a while they had been forced and up more important

872
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: to other facilities that really worked up to escape because

873
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: they didn't know how to actually deal with COVID nineteen.

874
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: Were forced to take COVID nineteen patients and that led

875
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: you half to deaths in New Jersey, New York. Being

876
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: from in nursing homes, you know, I gotta sing your praises,

877
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: and I know you don't like when I do this,

878
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: but I'm going to be mean into it anyway. So

879
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: a close friend of my sisters, a woman that happens

880
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: to be in her fifties as kids, she had COVID

881
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: really bad. She was on a ventilator for over six

882
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: weeks maybe I think six and a half. At one

883
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: point she had a track put in. I mean it

884
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: was it was touch and go for a long period.

885
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: And doctor Oz checked in regularly with the doctors that

886
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: were working on the case her case, offering advice, suggestions, help, assistance,

887
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: anything you could do. And she's now home, she's got

888
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: rehab to go through. You know a lot of a

889
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: lot of difficulties if you're in a hospital bed nearly

890
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: two months like that. Um, but you're a rock star

891
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: and I know many other cases where you did the same.

892
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: And when I said you aren't sleeping during this you

893
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: aren't sleeping during this time. Thank you for that keeping

894
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity hours because a lot of a lot of

895
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: the effort was almost giving pep talks to the caregivers

896
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: because it's it is emotionally incredibly draining when you're desperately

897
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: trying to financers and there's no textbook. In fact, the

898
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: reason that I'm so happy today is because of this

899
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: dex metho zone study that came out of the UK.

900
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: And just for everyone who I have missed it, this

901
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: an important deal. Next methods is a simple steroid. It's

902
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: not the kind you used to build muscles. It's the

903
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: one we use for allergies and inflammation and lupus by

904
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: the way, just like hydrog ychloroquine. And they found that

905
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: they could use it in people who were already having

906
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: trouble breathing. So you don't use it early in the

907
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: case the way you make other medications. This is designed

908
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: for people who already on oxygen, in which case they

909
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: cut depths by a fifth, or if you had a ventilator,

910
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: in which as you know, Sean had a very high mortality,

911
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: especially early on. They cut depths in UK by a

912
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: third if they gave a simple, easy, inexpensive, accessible drug,

913
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: and so it's not the standard or care. Twenty four

914
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: hours later in the UK, most American centers were already

915
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: experimenting with it. We were trying to give it to

916
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: patients like our mutual friend and others, just trying to

917
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: buy time to the bodies of the overreaction to the

918
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: virus could be mitigated. But this gives us, and other

919
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: advances like this give us a little bit more breathing

920
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: room because for the vast majority of people who get

921
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: sick and don't have risk factors like obesity and hypertension,

922
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: iabtes the kinds of things that we'd make them called

923
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: vulnerable for the CDC. But if you're not vulnerable, you

924
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: don't get them into the hospital. Ninety five percent of

925
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: hospital admissions are vulnerable. Eighty percent of people who die

926
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: over the age of sixty five. The average death age

927
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: is eighty. So we know who's at list, keep them

928
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: out of the way, protect them, and you can copy swedeen,

929
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: which is what we're doing now, and and do reasonably

930
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: well not perfect good data vaccine, but you know, we

931
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: can get through this if we do that. You know,

932
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: we've had all these protests going on now for a

933
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We do have states now that are

934
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: seeing hotspots come up, nineteen or twenty of them. Numbers

935
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: are not like what happened at the peak of all

936
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: of this by any stretch, you know, but we're seeing

937
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: this happen. What will the protests, you know, what will

938
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: the aftermath of that likely teach us or show us?

939
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: And not just the protest, then the other the bad

940
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: part of it which led to rioting are saluting and

941
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: all other behavior. But there was no social distancing. There

942
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: were many without masks. And you know, what are we

943
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: going to learn from all of this? And what do

944
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 1: you make of this increase of incidents in some states? Well,

945
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: you know that nineteen states, as you mentioned, have an increase,

946
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: but seven have a sixty percent or greater increase over

947
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: the past week. That's a meaningful things. Just focus on

948
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: those seven and four of those have increased hospitalization. So

949
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: that's where the rule issues are. I mean, there's no question.

950
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't think you can argue that the protests are

951
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: going to result in more cases. Hopefully they're younger people,

952
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: so they don't pay a significant price generally, and hopefully

953
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: because they are outdoors, the virus get spread around, so

954
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: if they were wearing a mask, it reduces a chance

955
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: of them having a problem. Outdoor activities are much less

956
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: problematic because you don't have a small, unventilated room where

957
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: one person who's got virus coming out of their mouth

958
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: spreads to everybody else. However, just to be concrete about it,

959
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: Mary de Blasio today says we're not going to for

960
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: sure open up New York City to the next stage

961
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: on Monday, even though we're supposed to, if you know,

962
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: the numbers are perfect in terms of following guidelines, because

963
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: he's worried that because of the protests, you might see

964
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: the increase cases. So even if it doesn't actually do anything,

965
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: the fact that our leadership is considering it as as

966
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: a factor that may impact whether we open or not,

967
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: it's a problem in New Jersey. I mean, I went

968
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: out with my son to play tennis yesterday, and the

969
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: parks are still closed, and I'm sort of stunned and

970
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: thinking about me how it's not possible. I don't understand.

971
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: There's no defensible medical reason. I don't think to keep

972
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: a park closed. So in a beautiful June afternoon, kids

973
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: can't go out and play, except that you're trying to

974
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: do things just in case something bad is about to hit.

975
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: And that's where I feel that, even though you know

976
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: we should be equal across the board, we may be

977
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: paying a price already, even if we don't see a spike,

978
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: you know. I look, all of that is true, but

979
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: again we go to the most vulnerable population, those who

980
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: have compromised immune systems underlying health conditions. Older people certainly

981
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: more than younger people. That is pretty much health steady,

982
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: so that they really have to take the extra precautions.

983
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I know I haven't made

984
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: much progress on this, but I guess maybe with the

985
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: President's rally that has taken place, they had almost a

986
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: million people want to go to this thing, and I

987
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: think that's room for a couple hundred thousand, so it's

988
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people. But all the people

989
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: will be asked to have masks. Everybody's going to go

990
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: through a temperature check. These are things that you and

991
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: I discussed about opening stadiums. Everyone's saying, Okay, you know

992
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: the risk, you're accepting the risks, and you have to

993
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: abide by the guidelines they're putting out there. What are

994
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Well, I don't I don't think it's wise

995
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: to get people to expose themselves to potential infected individuals.

996
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, certainly be outdoors to the best you can,

997
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: to stay with everybody else. And for sure, if you're

998
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: one of the folks who has a risk factor that

999
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: makes you vulnerable, if you overweight, if you're hypertensive, if

1000
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: you're diabetic, you've got chronic lung issues, you should not

1001
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: attend the rally because God forbid, someone that you walk by,

1002
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily the person that needs you're standing

1003
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: next to. It could be someone you know getting into

1004
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: the portal tip wherever this place the thing is going

1005
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: to be held, could invect you and you might have

1006
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: to be getting infection there, but you're not going to

1007
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: know it. Here's the question, Sean. Five days later, you

1008
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: wake up and you got a little sore throat. I mean,

1009
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: you have COVID nineteen or not. Right, You're gonna be

1010
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: in your mind thinking maybe I have COVID nineteen. Now

1011
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: you're destroying quality of life for people and getting folks panicked,

1012
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: and when it they're appropriately socially distancing, they don't. The

1013
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: thing that gives you the most peace of mind is

1014
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: I do everything I can, and I'm out as bad

1015
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: as you are. I mentioned I was a nursing home.

1016
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: I went to the Cash Valley and Utah last week

1017
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: with a percentative that meat processing facility where they had,

1018
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of people who got infect That's what

1019
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: I understand what the issues are. So but I'm really careful.

1020
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: So when I get up in the morning with a

1021
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: sore throat, I'm not thinking COVID nineteen. I'm thinking I

1022
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: got a sore throat. And I think these are subtle issues.

1023
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: But why introduced risk? But you don't need to that's

1024
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: the big question. No, I think you look, you're given

1025
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: everybody good advice, do you see it? But potential for

1026
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: outdoor stadiums to open and baseball and football? And what

1027
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: are your feelings on the NFL? I know the US

1028
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: Open said they're gonna play, but there'll be nobody at

1029
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: the US Open. Well, I have a studio audience, as

1030
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, of a couple hundred people, and I'm not

1031
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: going to be allowed to have audience members there. And

1032
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: I actually don't want to have audience members. I sent

1033
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: them home way before the city shut down for fear that.

1034
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: Imagine a fan of mine traveling all the way from

1035
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: wherever they came in the country to be in my

1036
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: audience and then I get sick. I mean, I think

1037
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to at least signal what I

1038
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: thought was appropriate for them to keep my people who

1039
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: are closest to me safe, And I think that's what

1040
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: most teams are going to be thinking. Do I want

1041
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: my fans worried that they don't actually get sick worried

1042
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: about this and they have a question I'm asking myself,

1043
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: was how impactful is it? When I talk to folks

1044
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,959
Speaker 1: to own stadiums, and I've been called by different leagues,

1045
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: they say, you know, if I can put half the

1046
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: people in the stadium, does that really help me? They

1047
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: don't make the same kind of noise. It's probably not

1048
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: going to even be a half it's expensive to open up.

1049
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: I really get that much out of it. Or should

1050
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: it just be smart and to safe and make sure

1051
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: no one gets sick. We're not. We're talking about holding

1052
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: our breath for maybe six months. We are gonna have

1053
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,479
Speaker 1: vaccines by the beginning part of twenty twenty one, and

1054
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: we should play our teams, play our events. A lot

1055
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: of the revenue for the leagues, and everyone knows comes

1056
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: from TV, radio and other venues. At least it's something

1057
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: that gives us all joy to watch our favorite players

1058
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: performed well. Then it becomes a math equation for the

1059
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: league's though, because they count on that money too. They'd

1060
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: be able to play the pay the players, and it

1061
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: gets complicated, and that's why the Major League Baseballs are fighting.

1062
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: But is that again? I'm just thinking long term. They

1063
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: know they're masically baseballs one hundred, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty years old. I'm thinking that if they could just

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Speaker 1: play and do this for kindness of the country and

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Speaker 1: not have to worry about the distraction of this whether

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Speaker 1: someone got sick. What happens the first time someone goes

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Speaker 1: home and says, you know, I got COVID nineteen from

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: the game you can't prove he's right, camp proves wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're stocking, all right, Quick break more with doctor Oz,

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Speaker 1: our medical A team. Next, quick break right back. We'll continue,

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Speaker 1: all right, as we continue with our medical A team

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Speaker 1: and doctor Oz. Uh boy, it's been a rough ride.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. It's you know, it's it's just one

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: thing after another. It seems keep just keeps, you know, hitting.

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01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: It's hard, but we'll get through it. We're Americans. We

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Speaker 1: have the best medical scientists and researcher. Yeah, real quick,

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: because I gotta go. I got bits between the new medications,

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: overall increased care, and the vaccine, we are ahead of this.

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: We don't have that much further to go, and I

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna have to shut down again with

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Speaker 1: what we're doing now. If we all behave ourselves, it's

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Speaker 1: all right. That's good news, all right, doctor Oz, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for being with us. Eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: four one sean, all right, simple man, Leonard Skinner. They

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01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: can only be one thing, and that thing means all

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: things Bill O'Reilly and all things bill O'Reilly or at

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: bill O'Reilly dot com. Let me ask you a question.

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: The world This has not been an easy here, mister O'Reilly.

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: That's a simple observation from a fellow simple man. And

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Speaker 1: I'm serious. I mean, look, we've had the worst pandemic

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventeen and eighteen as a country that's been rough.

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 1: Then obviously what happened to mister Floyd never should have happened.

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: That's been rough. The aftermath of that, you know, they're

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: genuine universal outrage. I don't know anybody except crazy keyboard

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,520
Speaker 1: warriors in their basement and their underwear, you know, saying otherwise.

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: And on top of that, then you got the lawlessness,

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: and then the looters and the rioters. Eight hundred plus

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: cops now injured, couple have died, one paralyzed for life.

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01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: We understand in Vegas burning down police precincts, taking over

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Speaker 1: city blocks in Seattle, and we have an election in

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine days. Um, So, as you know,

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01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: we're both simple man. Now, I'm glad I could get

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: burned you by the way over to the show. I

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: just why did I open myself up? I am so

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01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: imla now that why did I do this? Me? So

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 1: my simple question is why isn't anybody trying to solve

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01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: the problem, the problem of injustice or income inequality. Why

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01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: isn't anyone trying to solve that. Burning down a Wendy's.

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01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: Is that solve it? I don't think so. So let

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: me give you a real simple man scenario, something that

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: happened this week. You know Brad Pitt, right, I don't know,

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01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know him personally. I know him as

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: the actor I know, you know a lot of brilliant

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: in that Tarantino Hollywood movie. So Jennifer Anderson is his

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: former white you know our friends. So each of them

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: announces through their PR people who they pay an enormous

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: amount of money, that they're going to donate a million

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: dollars each to an antique cop organization, an anti police organization. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I say to myself, what are you doing? If

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01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: you're going to donate a million dollars, why don't you

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01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: donate it to my Brother's Keeper, a mentoring organization that

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: I worked with President Obama on? Why not give it

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Speaker 1: to Best Friends Foundation, another mentoring organization in DC, or

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Speaker 1: as I did yesterday Hannity, donate to Nassau County Big

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Speaker 1: Brothers and Big Sisters in a mentoring capacity. I'll, by

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: the way, I'll match your donation. Excellent, excellent. And I

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Speaker 1: like big brothers and big sisters. I've never been a

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01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: part of that organizations. I had to say. I had

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01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: three kids and I stayed with them their whole into adulthood.

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Speaker 1: But but it's a big donation, hanniy So, I mean,

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, pretty fast on the trigger there, But I'm

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: holding you to it. But Mike, but you're getting my point.

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you do good the money two organizations that

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: are lifting people out of poverty and out of hatred

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01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: into a system where they can have a terrific life

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: like you have and I have, and Coland Powell has,

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01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: and Ben Carson has and Barack Obama has. So, by

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: the way, the only one thing that I gotta say

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: is every simple guy you know drops the name of

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: a former president and says, oh, yeah, well, I work

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01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: with President Obama on this charity. Maybe I'm not as

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01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: simple after all, Bill never happened to me. But Obama

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: and I had common ground on this on this issue.

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01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: What hating, Hannity, I know, I got it. I believe

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: that I am a simple man, and I'm a former

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: high school teacher, and I know that mentoring poor children

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: with lousy parents or non existent parents is the only

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01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: way to get these kids in a position seed And

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: therefore any group that does this, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston,

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: you want to support, You don't want to support people

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01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:19,520
Speaker 1: who hate the police. The pills are good, look, I say,

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:27,480
Speaker 1: and I am watching. Now. It's to these police officers,

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: all eight hundred thousand of them, to demonize them the

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: way they're being demonized. It's not got to end. It's wrong,

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: Bill over eight hundred cops now, a number of dead,

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: eight hundred hurt, bottles, rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails, precincts burned

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Speaker 1: to the ground, and precincts taken over by anarchists. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the position that the president is in Illinois,

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: New York, all these all these blue states that run

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: into the ground for decades now and neglected by Democratic

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01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: governors and mayors. They don't get the job done. Same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know this The mayor the governor in Washington are

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01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: just pathetic. I mean, this is oh no, it's it's

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: like the Summer of Love. The autonomous zone, the chad zone,

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: the chop zone, the spaghetti pot, lug zone, a festive atmosphere.

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: You know, they all use the same words, and it's

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: not that way. And there are business owners in there

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01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: that are not being protected, and there are you know,

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: there's a police precinct being run by the anarchists that

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01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: took it over and chase the cops out, won't let

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Speaker 1: them back in. And I guess they're negotiating they give

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Speaker 1: back part of the city, but keep this part of

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Speaker 1: the city. Okay, So we're watching all of this unfold.

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Speaker 1: The president keeps offering help, they can keep saying no. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think that for the president there is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a trap because if the president goes in and

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Speaker 1: God forbid, something happens in the process of taking back

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Speaker 1: law and order, which they should do in the state level.

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Speaker 1: President's offering all the help they want, and something happened.

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: Trump did that, and so unless it gets to that moment,

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: and we'll know in that moment comes My attitude is

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: let Washington deal with Washington's problems. Let's Seattle deal with

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: Seattle's problems. That they elected these guys, let them fix it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I had a simple solution last night. I'm Bill O'Reilly

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01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: dot com that I think Donald Trump should consider, and

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: that is to send about one hundred US marshals to

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Speaker 1: Seattle to guarantee that anyone trapped in this anarchy zone

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Speaker 1: has the ability to get out and in when they

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Speaker 1: want it. Well, can I just answer that one point?

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: Are they You're not army, they're marshals. Every person apparently

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01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: that wants to leave, come and go. If you're a

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01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: resident there, that that that freedom does still exist. Although

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: you notice they built a wall. I thought walls were bad.

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Speaker 1: Then you need basically know that we really don't know

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Speaker 1: the pressure and the intimidation. Well, we have reporters and

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: spies in there. I have Ammy Harrowitz in there for

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: a spy in there for a day, all right, But

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with sending US marshalls a federal president

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: to observe the situation. You don't want to wake U,

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01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: you don't want a Ruby Ridge, I don't want any

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: of that. But I think that President Trump has got

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01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: to run and he can start this in August. I

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it now. You don't want to inflame now,

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: but he's got to run on Is this the kind

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: of country you want? And then show pictures of Seattle.

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Let's let's say all hell breaks loose. Bill.

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01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: By the way, we've seen all hell break loose in

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01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: recent days, and it's not pretty. And let's say that

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: they throw rocks, bottles, bricks at Molotov cocktails. Then the

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01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: hundred is going to become a thousand to two thousand,

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: and there's no way that's ever gonna end. It's never

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna look good. The optics will be terrible, and then

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: you got the possibility of a worst case scenario. Now

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01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: it may come to that, but from my perspective, that's

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01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: the that's the governor of Washington's job, in the mayor's job.

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: The President keeps offering the help. He says, I'll help you,

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: you can run it. I'll give you the backup, the

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: support that you need when you're ready. They don't want

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01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: any help, Bill, And they elected these guys. I guess

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: that's what they want out in liberal land, La La land.

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: Out there, they want, you know, anarchists to take over

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: city streets. I have considered your point of view, and

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: you rejected on TV and radio. I know I did.

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mocking you. I thought that it

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. I think the American people at this

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: point are looking for leadership. I think if the President

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 1: got on and said I'm gonna send in hundred marshals

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,440
Speaker 1: to make sure that anyone who feels threatened or anybody's

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01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: rights who are being violated in the anarchy zone have

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: to support, I think that would do them a lot

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01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 1: of good. You don't go in with tanks or gas

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: or anything like that. You just create a presence that

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: shows leadership. And that's what I will. I'm not where

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01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: you are. Probably that is probably going to happen next.

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: If I had to give my best guess, I don't

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: have any insider information. I think that is sober thought,

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01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: well thought out. And but you have another problem though,

1239
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: and that is the mayor doesn't want them. The governor

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: doesn't want them, the anarchists don't. Well, I got it.

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01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: Now here's the all right. So the bottles get thrown,

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: the Molotov cocktails get thrown, the bricks and rocks get thrown.

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01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be. You can't send a hundred guys in

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: without you know, five thousand behind them. If anybody does that,

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01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: them as withdraw. All right. Video is taken of course, Um,

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: they don't confront. They just withdraw and then the people.

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01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: And it's in a country. See who the anarchists really are.

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: Look based on all of the reporting, I'm like you,

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01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm paying very close attention the residents. Now we have

1250
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: one resident, Shelby Telcott at the at the Daily Caller

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01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: interviewed a business owner. You're not too happy, and I

1252
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: would imagine that there's probably legal liability for the city

1253
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: and for the state, and that will work itself out

1254
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 1: through the courts. I think there's going to come a

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01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: moment for your idea. I'm not quite there yet. It's

1256
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: well thought out. I appreciate it, but it also is

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: predicated on one assumption. I think that you think that

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: the people in the zone will allow it. I have

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: a feeling that it has the potential to be a

1260
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: lit fuse. Do you know the city of Seattle, Yeah,

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01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 1: I know, you've been there, of course, I have been

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: there many time. Okay, so the six block area that

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: they are occupying does comprise some residences and a lot

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01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: of businesses. All right. My contention is that many, perhaps most,

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 1: who are trapped there, don't want to be trapped there, correct,

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01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: But they were allowed to get in and out. And

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm only giving you straight reporting that I have. And

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Speaker 1: if we're in your neighborhood or my neighborhood, had any

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't be putting it. We wouldn't be putting up

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Speaker 1: with it. Putting up with it. I only can say,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't be living in Seattle, Bill, we wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: welcome in Seattle. And by the way, we're not really

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Speaker 1: welcome in New York either. Well, New York is another.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happened in Saint Patrick's Cathedral. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much time we have, but the district Attorney

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Speaker 1: cy Vans, not prosecuting the people who desecrated the cathedral,

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Speaker 1: said that is probably the worst thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's reverse to us real quick, because we

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time. Let's say that the

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Speaker 1: people that took over and are running the autonomous Zone

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Speaker 1: or some conservative or radical right wing group as they

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Speaker 1: call it, these are left wingers. What if it was that,

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Speaker 1: what would happen now, Well, Insley would have the National

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Speaker 1: guarding there exactly exactly. Well, everybody knows that. Everybody knows

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Speaker 1: who Insley is. I mean, that's what I mean that

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Speaker 1: in this next election, people's got to choose what kind

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Speaker 1: of country you want. It's really stark. Now, you may

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Speaker 1: not like Trump, but do you want Insley? Is that

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Speaker 1: what you want? You know what I do in this book,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to send you an early copy, special

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Speaker 1: Father's Day first edition, specially bound copies. Hannity dot Com. Bill,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you yours for free. I give the history

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Speaker 1: of how this great country is founded. I give a

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Speaker 1: history of radicalism in this country. I give the complete

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty democratic agenda. I go through socialism and their

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Speaker 1: history of failure. I go through what is at stake

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Speaker 1: between what they want on the left and what the

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01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 1: radical party they've become, and all of Donald Trump's views

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Speaker 1: and successes that he's had in his first term. I

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Speaker 1: google through the the hoax that they put us through

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Speaker 1: with Russia, the phony impeachment, trying to literally undo an election.

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Speaker 1: And I go through, and that's why it's lived Free

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01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: or die America in the world on the brink, Bill,

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: this is this is not for me a game. I

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Speaker 1: believe this tipping point. You promised that I could interview

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Speaker 1: you about this book. You remember that I do very

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Speaker 1: I don't know, as I drinking that day and I

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Speaker 1: don't remember I really know, of course. Down all right,

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01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you Bill one hundred and thirty nine days, Bill,

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01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: this great Republic is hanging in the balance. The choice

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01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: cannot be anymore clear. I've said that and passed elections.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing compared to this one. All right, Bill O'Reilly

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Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you, Bill O'Riley. We'll continue. Kiss words

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: are meaningless. He is lying to you, He is lying

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Speaker 1: to himself. He is lying to the American people in

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: Congress and the next President of the United States need

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Speaker 1: to stand up to the billions and billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley and hold these people, hold these billionaires

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Speaker 1: accountable for their lies and for their undermining of American democracy.

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Speaker 1: All right, News Roundup and Information Overload Hour, Joseph Scarborough

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01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: going nuts against Mark Zuckerberg and Google and all the

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Speaker 1: interesting details that have emerged surrounding this whole issue, and

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: report that in fact, Google maybe financially blacklisting zero heads

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Speaker 1: the Federalist site. Google to ban ads on the Federalist

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Speaker 1: after NBC News raises concerns about the George Floyd protest

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Speaker 1: well works for NBC News. They're looking to they're they're

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Speaker 1: looking for them to basically censor content that they don't

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Speaker 1: like or agree with. It's plenty of things I read

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Speaker 1: about me every single day, Linda, A lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: about me. I don't particularly like a lot of it's lying,

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Speaker 1: but definitely don't agree with it. If you look. The

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Speaker 1: bar is what the bar is? You know, Congress shall

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Speaker 1: make no law as it relates to freedom of speech.

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Speaker 1: Now we have libel laws, by the way, I like

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Speaker 1: to see where the suit ultimately goes with our friend

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: Lynn would probably you know him and Charles Harder by far,

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01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, standouts in terms of libel law Malice Times v.

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Speaker 1: Sullivan Landmark case, which is, you know, it's a very

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Speaker 1: high bar. If you're a public figure, they can pretty

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: much say anything they want about you, just the way

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Speaker 1: it is now. So it's interesting that it's NBC News,

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01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, apparently pushing according to foxnews dot Com article

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01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: that they're pushing and now facing intense backlash for influencing

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01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: Google to punish these two conservative news sites. Now we

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01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: can also go through all the conspiracy theories of fake

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: news CNN, right, we could do that and we can

1347
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: go through all the wrong reporting on Russia. You know

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,839
Speaker 1: what about those lies that damage this country immeasurable damage.

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01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: Look what they put this country through. They ever admit

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Speaker 1: they're wrong. No, Look at what they did to one kid,

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Speaker 1: Nicolas Sandman. And they're paying that case. Because Nicolas sam Man,

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Speaker 1: he's not a public figure, the bar is much lower.

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Speaker 1: The lies that were told about this kid, the smears

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Speaker 1: and the slander, all of that involved. I mean, it

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01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: is like unbelievable anyway, So it's it's interesting now we

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01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: dealt with this a long time. Well, it wasn't that

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Speaker 1: long ago. It was May twenty eighth, I guess we

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Speaker 1: dealt with it. And about a month ago and the

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Speaker 1: President signed an executive order and he had Bill Barr,

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, in there. And as it relates to

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Speaker 1: the executive order, fighting back against Silicon Valley with the

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Speaker 1: President and censorship of conservatives, this is something now conservatives

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Speaker 1: have had to deal with for a very long period

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Speaker 1: of time. This is something conservatives deal with all the

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Speaker 1: time as a matter of fact. And you know, on

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Speaker 1: top of everything else, every single word we utter is

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Speaker 1: being recorded in the hopes that one day that you know,

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Speaker 1: some conservative will say one thing they don't like, they

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Speaker 1: don't agree with, and instead of just letting the general

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Speaker 1: public go out there and make their own decisions because people,

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Speaker 1: I can't force people to listen. I want you to listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and do the best show I can

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Speaker 1: every day, so you'll listen. I'm gonna put on the

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Speaker 1: best TV show I possibly can so you will listen

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Speaker 1: and watch. But I can't make anybody. You know, that's freedom.

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Speaker 1: You have the freedom to choose. We have more choices

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Speaker 1: now than ever. Netflix, You've got Hulu, you got Amazon, Prime,

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Speaker 1: Prime Video, you got it all, Prime Movie, Prime Prime, this,

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Speaker 1: that and everything. And you have all the social media

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Speaker 1: content providers as well. YouTube. If you have a smart TV,

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Speaker 1: you want to watch something on YouTube, you put it

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Speaker 1: on your TV. It's that's simple. But there is a

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Speaker 1: very important legal component to this, and that is the

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Speaker 1: Communications Decency Act, and the Order interprets that key provision

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Speaker 1: as not providing special protections for Silicon Valley titans like

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Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and Google and the rest of them

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Speaker 1: that are engaged in censorship. If you're just a pure

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Speaker 1: content provider, you are protected in terms of libel. If

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Speaker 1: in fact, somebody were to say something offensive that could

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Speaker 1: in fact be interpreted as libel. In other words, you

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Speaker 1: have that protection by your government. They have that protection. Now,

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01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to become an editor and then editorially,

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Speaker 1: then then then every all bets are off at that point.

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Speaker 1: You know what, if you're not going to be a

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Speaker 1: pure content provider and let people post freely, well then

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Speaker 1: and if you don't become an editor, okay, you won't

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Speaker 1: have the liability. Once you become an editor, well then

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Speaker 1: that liability that you have, the protections are gone. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, this first happened with Twitter when they

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Speaker 1: took the unprecedented, unprecedented steps of fact checking the president's

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Speaker 1: tweets and now they're deleting this conservative emails account, and

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Speaker 1: it goes on and on and on. You had a

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Speaker 1: Twitter employee linking to the platform the fact checking came

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Speaker 1: from where the Washington Post they hate the president, fake news, CNN,

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Speaker 1: they hate the president. You know. So you know, I

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: actually put this on TV and on radio. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: it out to at Jack or we said on air,

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Speaker 1: at Jack, that's your fact checker, the Washington Post, fake news, CNN?

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Does that? Are they people that should have a voice

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Speaker 1: in deciding how to target a president's Twitter page. Well,

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01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: now you're no longer just a content provider because you're

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Speaker 1: deciding what's on there. There's a lot of stuff I

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Speaker 1: don't like that I see about me on social media.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, too bad. I believe in freedom. I believe

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Speaker 1: in freedom of speech, liberty, and people say lies about

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Speaker 1: me too. Not much I can do about it now

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01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 1: when people are warned and people are given the truth.

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Speaker 1: New York Toilet Paper Times is the case in point.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a landmark case, Sarah Palin. Remember

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Speaker 1: the whole thing targeted districts and what they said at

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01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, that hopefully we'll go to trial, and

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01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: I want to see what where that turns out. I

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01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: am paying very close attention to all of that. So

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Speaker 1: if you're going to take the role of fact checking,

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01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: then you also take on the liability and the responsibility.

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01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 1: And you may not want to use fake news CNN

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01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 1: and MSDNC in the New York Toilet Paper Times and

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01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Washington Posts as your fact checkers because they have agendas.

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01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: At Jack should know this. We met at Jack dude.

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Speaker 1: You ever, by the way, talk to him, Linda, Ah,

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Speaker 1: he seems to be unavailable, you know though, so your

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01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: connection is over. I wouldn't say that it's over. I

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01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: would just say that we're going through an interesting phase

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Speaker 1: in our relationship. But it's But remember NBC now, and

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01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: this is what I have. But Joe Scarborough is asking

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01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: here is for them to censor speech he doesn't like. Now,

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01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 1: to me, it's a little bit of a joke. I

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Speaker 1: have nothing against Joe Scarborough. He can say whatever he wants.

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01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,440
Speaker 1: It's not the point. But if you're gonna edit people's opinions,

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Speaker 1: you no longer get the liability protection that I've been

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01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: talking about here, the Decency Act protection, the Communications Decency

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01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: Act protection, because now you're an editor. Now you are

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01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: deciding you're not just a content provider, or you're not

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01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: just a place where you allow people to speak freely.

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01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: You're editing that speech. Okay, that means that's a whole

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01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: different ballgame, and the liability is real by the way,

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01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: I eviscerate, Oh it Live free or die, Linda, that

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01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: whole chapter. I think it's what chapter seven. The medium

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01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: mob enemy of the people, they hate Trump media mob.

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01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: That's chapter seven. I eviscerate them. I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: August fourth. We're gonna get out on the road to

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01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: again as well. We're gonna have some fun with this.

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01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,839
Speaker 1: But more importantly, you know what, the mob deserves everything

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01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to I do throw at them because they

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01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: are so irresponsible, they're so reckless. They tell so many lies,

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Speaker 1: they smear so many people. There's such such an agenda driven.

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Speaker 1: It's a fourth estate, and they abuse their power, frankly,

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Speaker 1: with no accountability, no responsibility. You know what, you know,

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01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: good thing, Nicolas Sandman. I can't wait to see this

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Speaker 1: kid become a billionaire. And that's what's gonna happen. But

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Speaker 1: they won't disclose how much of we out a private settlement.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, to agree to a private settlement. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay through the nose. Great good for Nicholas Sandman. He

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01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: deserved it. He deserves so much better. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Father's Day is this Sunday. If you want to get

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Speaker 1: a specially bound first edition copy Live for Your Die

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Speaker 1: especially bound edition first edition copy Hannity dot com for

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Speaker 1: it early and get a good discount. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to our phones here. Let's say hi to Cheryl

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Speaker 1: and Virginia. Cheryl, Hi, how are you glad you called? Hi? Sean?

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Speaker 1: How are you so good to talk to you? It's

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you. What's going on? Thank you? Yes?

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Speaker 1: My first question is why is in the Seattle FBI

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Speaker 1: getting involved shutting down CHAZ when they've got armed BLM

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Speaker 1: and ANTIFA members there blocking entrance into their zone. And second,

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Speaker 1: can the citizens of Seattle sue the mayor and other

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Speaker 1: city officials for obstructing access and emergency services to that area?

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Speaker 1: I absolutely if I was a homeowner, was a store owner,

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Speaker 1: and my business was under siege and with reckless disregard

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Speaker 1: for the law, they did not uphold the oaths of

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Speaker 1: their office and their responsibility to the citizenry. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: see a case there where they are financially, legally liable

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Speaker 1: and responsible. I'd loved and by the way, that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. And by the way, the taxpayers of Washington,

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Speaker 1: taxpayers in Seattle Yeah, they're going to be the ones

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Speaker 1: that end up paying whatever the settlement is. And depending

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Speaker 1: on how much insurance they have, we'll see what that

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Speaker 1: all comes down to. How would you feel if it

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Speaker 1: was your business, right, I'd sue I would too. I

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Speaker 1: can't blame people FBI And what about FBI involvement? Can

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Speaker 1: they not get involved? Yes, the President has full constitutional

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Speaker 1: authority to go in under the Insurrection Act of eighteen

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Speaker 1: oh seven. He can go in, he can clean it up,

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Speaker 1: and he can get it done. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he should. I mean, the president keeps offering, Hell,

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Speaker 1: it's the governor's job. It's the mayor's job. The mayor's

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Speaker 1: eating and inventing these the anarchists. The mayor's saying something

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Speaker 1: that's not true, that it's one big street festival, that

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Speaker 1: it is a summer of love, and in the autonomous

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Speaker 1: chop Zone, chaz whatever they want to call it, on

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Speaker 1: any given day, in spaghetti pot luck dinners. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, it's funny because fake news CNN, M conspiracy

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Speaker 1: tv MSDNC reporting inside the autonomy autonomous zone, and while

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Speaker 1: they're inside there, they're saying, oh no, it's like a

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Speaker 1: festival atmosphere using the same words as they always do.

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Speaker 1: Then no originality whatsoever. It's one big liberal socialist talking point.

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Speaker 1: And while they're saying it, the people inside the zone

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Speaker 1: and say, no, it's not this isn't a festival. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: They're getting beaten down, you know, right on live television.

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Speaker 1: I showed some of that last night. It's hilarious actually. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks Cheryl, Yeah, appreciate it. Say hi to Scott in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Scott, you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, Sean,

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Speaker 1: how you doing a quick question? I was watching the

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Speaker 1: TV this morning and I'm one of your competitors channels.

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Speaker 1: They were talking to the CEO of General Motors Corporation

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Speaker 1: and she was talking about basically creating all these inclusivity

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Speaker 1: and diversity boards and all this stuff. Right, And a

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Speaker 1: lot of these companies are coming out and saying this, right,

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Speaker 1: so civil rights movement happened almost sixty years ago, right,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't the boards and the CEO is the executives like

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Speaker 1: they're taking a reactive approach, is what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't they be stripping and cleaning all these boards out

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Speaker 1: and all these CEOs that are taking a reactive approach

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Speaker 1: because these solutions and these problems should have been solved

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Speaker 1: twenty or thirty years ago. So like that's my big question,

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Speaker 1: Like what are they going to do about that? And

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Speaker 1: how are these executives taking such a reactive approach? Is

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Speaker 1: something that should have been in their bylaws and corporate

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Speaker 1: policies years ago. Look, every corporation, it's easy for us,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, you know, to say they should be

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Speaker 1: focused on this, this, this, and this. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the business is. You're usually everybody I know in

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Speaker 1: business gulfs water, if that makes sense. I'm gulden Water

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Speaker 1: every day, all days, a fire hose in my throat,

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Speaker 1: put you know, trying to get all the information, news,

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Speaker 1: information shows together, and you know, you just don't usually

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Speaker 1: have the time to get to a lot of these

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Speaker 1: other things. And you know, I've been blessed because I've

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Speaker 1: hired so many good people around me, and that makes

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Speaker 1: a big difference. And I always let everybody do their job.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a micromanager type of boss. And you know,

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Speaker 1: but in the end, when sometimes problems, you know, or

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Speaker 1: once they're illuminated, once they've become a problem, then you

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Speaker 1: have to give the attention that is due to it.

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Speaker 1: What should people be more proactive at times on a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues? Absolutely, quality controls, safety issues, personnel matters.

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Speaker 1: All of this stuff has to be dealt with. It's complicated,

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Speaker 1: and you have all the government regulations, and you have

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Speaker 1: all the accounting and taxation that you got to deal

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Speaker 1: with in any business. It's you know, I'm not disagreeing.

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Speaker 1: You got to focus on people too, and the people

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Speaker 1: that work for you and your customer, and do it simultaneously,

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Speaker 1: and do it under that an environment which is also

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Speaker 1: more competitive in a lot of industries than ever before.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's not an easy answer, but we can

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Speaker 1: get it right. You always want to become more perfect.

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Speaker 1: That's how I love a more perfect union for example.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of news to cover. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the President will be on tonight on Hannity nine Eastern

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Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel. President Trump saying absolutely Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: if he can play in the NFL, should be playing

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. That surprised people will have the charges

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Speaker 1: in the Atlanta case. Lindsay Graham, Dan Bongino, Horaldo, Leo

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Speaker 1: and Larry and President Trump also all coming up Hannity

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Speaker 1: exclusively tonight nine Eastern Box News see you tonight back

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow, As always say, DVR, thanks for being with us,