1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,319 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the hair 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: coming up on this Wednesday edition. It was a wild 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: one because it was a wild night and day to 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: recap with the Max Crosby fiasco between the Ravens and 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: the Raiders. You had Team Italy pulling off the shocking 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: upset of Team USA and apparently their manager didn't know 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: the rules heading into last night's game between the two. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: We've also got Bam one Baio with eighty three points, 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: but not every record is the same as before and 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: NBA fans are really sensitive to it. Brady Quinn's got 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: technical difficulties but still fighting through. Petros Popajegas is gonna 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: stop by. We've got our midweek awards and we've got 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: the leftovers. It's all yours coming up next here, Two 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: Pros and a cup of Joe on a wild Wednesday 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, and we are off and 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: running here on a Wednesday morning. It is two Pros 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio. No LeVar Arrington, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: It's just Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox taking you all 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: the way up until nine am Eastern Time. 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: Six o'clock Pacific. 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: You can listen to this show as always on the 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: all across the country as we take you live all 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: the way up until nine am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: It is a three hour extravaganza. If you're listening on 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. And we are 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: off and running and rocking and rolling. Brady Quinn, it's 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: just you and you and I today. Bub you ready 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: to fire off rounds? 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Let's go. 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, and you better get used to the 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: sounds right now because we have one work Oh. 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Boy, oh that was we all get over there. Yeah, 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: this is some technical difficulties. That's what happens. I think 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 1: in a windstorm. 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: Won't look in the in the Midwest they were dealing with. 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a weather geek like me, you 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: know all about these storms that went through the Midwest, 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: tornadoes touching down I believe in Mississippi as well too. Yeah, 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: there was all sorts of stuff that was going on yesterday. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: So hopefully things are okay. Is Brady still with us? 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: We still Yeah, he's still here, but he's reconnecting. 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so we will catch up with Brady Quins. 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: There's plenty to get to. It was a wild day. 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: I was just talking to Ben Mallor who had just 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: finished up his show, and it's one of those days 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: to where you get a bunch of stories, they all 49 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: land in your lap. There's all sorts of juicy tentacles 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: or branches to every single topic tree that you're given, 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: which all that means is that later today and doing 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: the show tomorrow, we're just gonna get a bucket of crap. 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Like that's really just what's gonna happen, and there's not 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of great topics. But as it 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: stands from me, yesterday all sorts of fun stuff and 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: the fun stuff really took a turn for the Raiders 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: and the Ravens, who apparently there is no deal the 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Max Crosby for two first round picks. Apparently that's not happening. 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: And the first round pick that was number fourteen overall 60 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: that was going to the Baltimore Ravens, or was going 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: to the Raiders by way the Baltimore Ravens. That's not happening. 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: Trade is off, Max Crosby reportedly failed as physical. 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: Yet, if you. 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: Believe any of the insiders and the people covering this story, 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: a lot of the feeling around the league is that 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens got cold feet, and the Baltimore Ravens 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: kind of screwed the Raiders over. And so there's a 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: lot of people that wonder, maybe what this says about 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: the Ravens organization pulling the plug on all this. But 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: if you're Baltimore and you trade away that much capital 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: for a guy, and you get him in the building 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: and every deal is pending him passing a physical, and 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: he doesn't pass the physical, what are you supposed to do? 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Just sign off on it and say, hey, don't worry 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: about it. Worst case scenario will pretend like it's the 76 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Civil War. 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: We'll just saw it off. 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: We'll give him a tree branch, have him hobble around 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: on that, and hope he's ready to go Week one. 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: He failed the physical. I understand the guy failed the physical. 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: And you see it happen in the NFL all the time. 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: You'll see it happen with combine workouts. You'll see it 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: happen with guys getting drafted. One team's comfortable with taking 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: a player, one team's not. The Baltimore Ravens got Max 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: Crosby in the building. Their physicians looked it over and said, 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: we don't feel great about this. Sorry, you know, we 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: just don't feel great about this. But it's almost as 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: if the Raiders are under this illusion because they went 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: out and spent a bunch of money day before that 90 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: they're in control of everything, and the Raiders are the 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: team that you want to be when it comes to 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: functioning at a high level. I got news for you, 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: and I said this before the fact that Baltimore, who's 94 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: got the reputation they have, walked away from the Tyler 95 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: Linderbaum deal and walked away from that altogether. In offering 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: the money they did and trying to get a deal 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: done and him saying no, and them saying, well, we're 98 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: not going to franchise him. That would kind of raise 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: a red flag for me. There's certain organizations that if 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: they walk away from a player or they walk away 101 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: from a deal, it's different than somebody else. Baltimore has 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: got a pretty good reputation for being a pretty solid 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: organization for a long time. Philadelphia, if they walk away 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: from a deal. There's a report out there that Philadelphia 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: might even consider trading Jalen Carter. If Philadelphia traded Jalen Carter, 106 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: wouldn't that raise a red flag for you about Jalen Carter. 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: So the idea that Baltimore or is just this team 108 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: that screwed the Raiders over and they backed out on 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: the deal. They brought in Max Crosby. Their team physicians 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: looked at him and reportedly the physical didn't add up 111 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: and they didn't like what they saw. So when I 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: see the story come out and you've got all these 113 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: Raider fans that are bitter like, oh, the Ravens screwed 114 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: him over, and all these insiders are saying, this is 115 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: a bad look for the Ravens. What are they supposed 116 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: to do if they bring the guy in they have 117 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: their doctors look at it and realize, yeah, this just 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: doesn't work for us. 119 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: You know, there's differences oftentimes with the medical opinions, And 120 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: I keep going back to how things are going to 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: turned out for Drew Brees. Had the doctors with the 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins cleared him and said he his shoulder will 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: be fine. Instead, I believe this story as it goes is. 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: They said that Drew Brees's shoulder, wouldn't you be good 125 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: enough that first season? And they never be back to 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: one hundred percent And that was their opinion. The Saints 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: had their opinion, and Drew Brees that's signing a deal 128 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: to be the quarterback. I was Sean Payton the Saints 129 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: and obviously what a Super Bowl and become a first 130 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: dollar Hall of Famer. So it's kind of crazy to think, 131 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: you know, how there's that big of a variance in 132 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: different opinions on medical opinions. But that's the reality of 133 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: the world we live in. I think we've all known 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: that too, from seeing different doctors for the different things. 135 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: You've had a number of issues throughout the year. Oh yeah, 136 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: a number that people have looked at and they said, 137 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: what the hell is that? That's right, you know, but 138 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: in some cases they said cut it off, and others 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: they just said, you're gonna have to live with that 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: for a while. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, trusting buddy, I walked around, you know, with 142 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: with teeth that it looked like my tongue. 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: Was in jail all through high school. And then I 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: had people tell. 145 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Me now they look fine, and it was like nah, 146 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't think that mirror is lying to me, and 147 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: that one's not either. 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to go get veneers. 149 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: You know, different opinions on your physical looks and how 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: the body operates. I just think like this whole you've 151 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: got Raider fans almost taking victory laps like, oh yeah, 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: they're the clown show organization, and see, we want to 153 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: do things on the up and up. All because they 154 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: spend one hundred something million dollars in a quick span, 155 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: and so they're walking around peacocking as if they're the 156 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: team that runs a high functioning organization and operation around 157 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: the league. No, the fact that Baltimore I would trust 158 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: their judgment in this, and we talked about it yesterday. Look, 159 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: it's not to say that that Tyler Linderbaum's not a great. 160 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Player, because he clearly is. 161 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: He was the bell of the ball, so to speak, 162 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: when it came to the free agent class. But the 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: fact that Baltimore an organization who's got a pretty good 164 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: reputation about doing things at a high level and doing 165 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: things the right way. The fact that they looked at 166 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: Linderbaum and said we're not even going to tag him, 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: like we're not even like we're willing to let him walk. 168 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: That tells me that there's at least something to keep 169 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: an eye on as far as why would they walk 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: away from him? And yet the Raiders are going to 171 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: overpay by almost ten million a year in comparison to 172 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: the next best center. So I just look at it, 173 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: and the reaction was, Man, Baltimore, what a bad look 174 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: your guy Jason Lockin Firm, I mean looking for was, 175 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, talking about what a bad look it was 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: for the organization that the front office would do this 177 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: and try finding an agent or somebody that wants to 178 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: deal with Baltimore again. Okay, right, because if they offer 179 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: a certain amount of money, they're gonna say no. Just 180 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: on general principle. We don't like the fact that they 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: didn't let a guy walk in with one good leg 182 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: and take the job from somebody for two first round picks. Okay, 183 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: So everybody's just going to run away from Baltimore now 184 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: because of this deal. I just the whole thing's laughable. 185 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say. I mean, first off, Baltimore 186 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: is one of the better organizations in the NFL. Most 187 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: players know that they take care of their players, and 188 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about they changed to a grass field in 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: their stadium just to help presentft tissue Laura Tremney injuries. 190 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: So this is not an organization that's in question for 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: all this. I think those Raider fans who are concerned 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: now because you spend all that money, think you're going 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: to have the cap space and the draft capital to 194 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: rebuild and start this thing over. Meanwhile, now you're now 195 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: you're saying, like, what are we going to do now? 196 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: And I think this becomes a greater issue as well, 197 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: with the timing and the process of how during the 198 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: legal tampering period, all these deals are done and they're 199 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: all subject to a physical they're all subject to the 200 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: first day of the new league year, uh where things 201 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: could fall through or teams might end up having a 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: better offer and they could quote unquote have the deals 203 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 3: fall through. I look at this a little bit skeptical too, 204 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: and wonder, you know, did they look at Nice Crosby's injuries, 205 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: and do they look at you know, all the scans 206 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: and everything else, and you go, yeah, he's got some 207 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: major degenerative issues. And even though he hasn't had that 208 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: big of an issue missing games, he's probably missed one, 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: you know, last year they held him out a little bit, 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: but before that, maybe maybe a game. I mean, he's 211 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: been a worry been out there, But there could be 212 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: some long term concerns and issues where if you're going 213 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: to pay him that amount of money, they're reconsidering some 214 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: of them and they might look at a guy like 215 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson and say, YEA, if we're looking for an 216 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: edge rusher, a guy, maybe we give him cheaper, and 217 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: maybe he'd be a guy who we've watched within our 218 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: division be extremely productive. I mean people tend to forget 219 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: that was a guy who had seventeen and a half 220 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: sacks back to back seasons. When he's healthy and he's 221 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: out there, he's one of the better edge rushers in 222 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: the league. So there's all sorts of little games that 223 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: are played. But I don't know that that's the case here. 224 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: I think there's just some legitimate concerns about the deal 225 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: that was signed and obviously what his potential issues could 226 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: be moving forward as a Baltimore Raven. I'm more curious 227 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: to see what the Raiders are going to do now. 228 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there have to be some other suitors out 229 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: there that have the other teams that are willing to 230 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: take on Max Crosby despite some of these issues at 231 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: the right price. And so we'll see what exactly that's 232 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: going to be. But that's more where my curiosity leads. 233 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, the Cowboys just to win the 234 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: breakup with Micah Parsons, they would take Max Crosby with 235 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: a whiffleball bat for a leg and just the irony. 236 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: The irony to that situation is obviously now they're looking 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: at for Sean Gary of the Green Bay Packers. There's 238 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: the Cowboys rumored to have been looking at them to 239 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: bring him in. It's like, all right, wait, you said 240 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: a guy there you wouldn't sign to a long term deal. 241 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: Now you're taking one of the packer. 242 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Like correct, yeah, that's correct. 243 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: How it makes sense. I mean, granted it would be 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: for a you know, a lesser, lesser deal, but you 245 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: don't convince me there wasn't off the field issues with 246 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: Micah Parsons. 247 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: And it's like, I mean, there was an easier way 248 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: to get here. Guys, it was just pay him last year. 249 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Like it's not like he didn't want to be there, 250 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: Like there was an easier way to get to where 251 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: you needed to go. But it's almost like they looked 252 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: at the ways app on their phone and said, all right, 253 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: we can get there on a straight shot on the 254 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: highway here. But you know what, what's wrong with taking 255 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: a look at the town? You know, let's just go, 256 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: let's go navigate all the way around, and let's go finally, 257 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: and then we'll finally get to our destination. And we're 258 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: just gonna pay a bunch of money for a bunch 259 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: of other guys. And also, from on the Ravens standpoint 260 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: of this, it's not like this is the first time 261 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: I know that everybody thinks that everybody's so fearful, all 262 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: these Raider fans, these fanboys who have been watching a 263 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: diaper fire for decades. 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: I feel like you're just really taking. 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: It because it's it's It would be like, no, no, 266 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: it would be it would be like a homeless guy 267 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: seeing a guy on his way into work and saying, 268 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: what a loser. Hold on a second, I got a 269 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: briefcase a six figure job, and I just parked my 270 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: Bentley and you and you're laying and taking a nap 271 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: on a pizza box, and you've got two different shoes on, 272 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: and I'm life and and I'm getting criticism from you. 273 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: It sounded like the Ravens haven't done this before. There's 274 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: history here where brock Marion the Ravens backed out because 275 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: he failed a physical. Ryan Grant in twenty eighteen, the 276 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: Ravens backed out because he failed a physical. Michael Brockers 277 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, the Ravens backed out because he failed 278 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: a physical. It's like this has happened before. It's not 279 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: like some they're trying to get back at the Raiders 280 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: or there's some sort of bad blood there. The guy 281 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: just had a bum knee and they're not comfortable with 282 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: giving up two first round picks, and by the way, 283 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: one of them is the number fourteen overall in this draft. 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: They gave up a lot for him, and so I 285 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: don't I don't blame him for having some concerns. 286 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: There and wanting to make sure everything was on the 287 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: up and up. 288 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: If they're going to give away that much capital to 289 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: try and bring a player in, I'm sorry. 290 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: There's a photo going around too of the X rays 291 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: of that meme. I'm not sure if he saw that 292 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: on the internet. I'm sure you did. 293 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's funny, you know, I saw I thought 294 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: that was actually your X ray, which is interesting. 295 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: I did have a hippo violation, so I try to 296 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: make sure those things. But we don't have our resident 297 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: Penn State. Penn State are here to defend the Micah 298 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: Parsons whole situation when you're shocking here and all that. 299 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he will not, he will not. He will 300 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: not be here to UH to defend that. It's yeah, 301 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: the whole it's a very bizarre. And now there is 302 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: some speculation, some rumblings that maybe Trey Hendrickson is in 303 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: play for the Baltimore Ravens, that maybe that might be. 304 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: U a investment for this That's where I think everyone's like, 305 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: you know, there's there's thoughts, goes, and maybe the Baltimore 306 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: Ravens got out of this deal because they felt like 307 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: they could get a player who is very productive as 308 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: an edge rusher, fits what they want to do and 309 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: maybe for a lesser price. And and that's where there's 310 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: people who are skeptic about how this whole thing went 311 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: down with the Physical and I can understand the skepticism, 312 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: and maybe there is elements of that, you know, maybe 313 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: that they use the the guys of UH failed Physical 314 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: to go ahead and sign up, but the reality is, uh, 315 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: they have the right to do so, and that's what like, again, 316 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: you want to get those players in there for a 317 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: physical as fast as humanly possible so you can get 318 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: this stuff done. And when you allow it to drag 319 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: on or we've got these again deals on paper that 320 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily completely done until that the physical takes place, 321 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: it leads to situations like this, And this is where 322 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: news gets announced before they're actually done. So I think 323 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: it's a good reminder and good lesson to a lot 324 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: of folks out there, Like there's a process of how 325 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: this all works in the NFL, and clearly we get 326 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: ahead of ourselves at the start of the new league year. 327 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: And it'd be nice if you saw Roger Goodell in 328 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: the league try to, you know, change this, and instead 329 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: they're only only making what doesn't seem to make sense 330 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: at all. Defining is legal tampering. It's either tampering or 331 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: it's not. If it's not tampering, call it something else, 332 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: like stop with the charades are stupid. It sounds right, 333 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: but beside the point. Just help us get to a 334 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: process where let the announce the deals they're legitimate we 335 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: don't have issues like this moving forward, Ian. 336 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Rap before it to tweet a couple of moments ago 337 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: that said raiderstar Max Crosby now back from Baltimore with 338 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: the trade to the Ravens office, headed back into the 339 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: building in Las Vegas, ready to resume his training and 340 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: rehab program. 341 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: His mindset. 342 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Crosby is ready to play football for the Raiders, ready 343 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: to move forward. 344 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: So who knows, maybe they're gonna away. 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're coming back in there. 346 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: He's like, what are we doing here? 347 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: Like, we just gonna forget about the fact that you 348 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: benched him, you sat him down, which actually, upon further review, 349 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: if the knee was that bad and uh and they 350 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: were worried about it, maybe the Raiders were making the 351 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: right decision. But that was, you know, clear tank job. 352 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: Hey, Ian, just go ahead and leave the copy and 353 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: paste stuff on their next stop, so you just know 354 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: it came directly from the agent. I mean, this is 355 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: the most insufferable time for insiders right now, where they're 356 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: getting so much BS statements from all these players agents 357 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: and they're just copy and pasting and put him out there. 358 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: That's the world, oh man. That that is the one 359 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: thing I will give Mike Florio credit. 360 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Uh he's a bit much at times because he's got 361 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: an agenda, care agenda, so he's getting any Oh yeah, yeah, 362 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: so he he will call it out anytime he sees it. 363 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: So I do give him some credit for that. 364 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, wild turn of events, the Max Crosby deals off, 365 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: and if he ends up somewhere else, uh you know, 366 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: and and you know, maybe there's some team in the 367 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: Civil War League that's okay with a player with a 368 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: bum leg starting on their front line, then. 369 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: That is true. 370 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: Uh, not that I would know, more like three thumbs, 371 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: but is what it is. 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But right 421 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: now it is time for the tire rack play of 422 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: the day. 423 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 7: Bam out of Bayo is a complete monster. 424 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: And really get the ball into Bams hand the right way. 425 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 7: Only Wilt Chamberlain has more points in an NBA game 426 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 7: in Association history than bam Auta Bayo, who has eighty 427 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 7: two eighty three for Bamauta Baio thirty six of forty 428 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 7: three from the line. 429 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Both records. 430 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: Heat Radio Network on the call right outside bam Adebayo, 431 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: who apparently was participating in a Papa shot contest on 432 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: a Tuesday night in the National Basketball Association. 433 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: That is your tire rack play of the day. 434 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: For over forty years, Tirack's been helping customers find the 435 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: right tires for how, what and where they drive. 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Is that what this is about? 446 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Oh, that's correct, Yeah, that's correct. Yeah you got yeah, 447 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: you saw that? Yeah, correct, Yeah, that's exactly what it was, so. 448 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: The NBA has reached the point now where we're trying 449 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: to help other players just break records. I mean, I 450 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: guess that's that's why Lebron's still playing is other case? 451 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, that's why I said it's a 452 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Papa shot. When you play Papa shot, there gets to 453 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: a point to where you get an extra point the 454 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: final ten seconds, so like, and then everything becomes a 455 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: three and the rim starts moving from left to right, 456 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: and they may as well just do that, like if 457 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: if we're going to go all the way with this 458 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: gimmicky garbage. 459 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: And look, it's not to say you didn't have a. 460 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: Great game, but I hope that people historically remember the 461 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: game for what really happened. You had players intentionally fouling 462 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: so the guy could go get more points of the line. Again, 463 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: incredible game, a really really good player. Was probably really 464 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: fun for he fans that were in attendance. All of 465 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: that is nice, but dude, they the whole thing felt 466 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: rinky dink based on the fact that they were manipulating 467 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: the game so that he could tack on points. 468 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Like, how's there? How are any How's anybody okay with this? 469 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: When would this ever happen in the nineties? Would this 470 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: ever happened in two thousands? Like what was? What? Would 471 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: this have happened under David Stern? 472 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: In all seriousness, like it wouldn't It wouldn't have happened. 473 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I was Ben Mallard and I were joking. 474 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: We were talking about you know, in the nineties, it 475 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't have happened because you either would have had some 476 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: guy who's hung over from the night before or some 477 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: random white guy who's seven to one from you know, 478 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: some semi pro league in Lithuania who would have just 479 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: taken somebody out at the knees, like he would have 480 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: been brought in to use his six fouls to make 481 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: a point that you're not going to have that happen 482 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: against us. 483 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: That's how that would have worked. 484 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: Well. The mentality of the league was just different. You know, 485 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: guys weren't friends, Guys weren't trying to team up. You know, 486 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: guys are trying to win championships. And they were a 487 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: cutthroat about it, and they were physical. And the way 488 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: they'd go about playing is they took pride and defense. 489 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: They took pride in not allowing guys to do something 490 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: like that, and that's unfortunately where we've gotten to now 491 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: with the NBA. It's why it makes it such a 492 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: hard product to watch that we're just promoting a guy 493 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: where both teams are trying to help him beat a record. 494 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here? 495 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: I would also say, if you're the NBA and and 496 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: you're so worried about everything being on the up and 497 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: up from a gambling standpoint, if I was a gambler, 498 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: if I was a sports book, I'd be looking at that, 499 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: going really that that's so so now everybody's in on it. 500 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: So is this you versus them? Or is it hey, 501 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: let's all be a part of history. That's and I 502 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: know that they're you know, nobody's going to take that 503 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: approach because maybe you know it didn't impact the betting line, 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: but still the fact that that's allowed and that's going 505 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: on in a game would raise questions for me if 506 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: I if I was going to actually take that sport 507 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: serious and feel like, you know, at least I'm betting 508 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: on something that's on the up and up. 509 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: If they're going to roll that out so some guy 510 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: can get a record. 511 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: A little bit, I'm looking at too, but even more 512 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: than that, you know, where does the NBA players you 513 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: need to step in and just try to protect I 514 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: mean one of the things that when you have a union, 515 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: and obviously everyone's sorry about like CBAS and the war conditions, 516 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: but it's also about preserving the legacy of the guys 517 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: before you. And at no point to the other players 518 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: around the league, go hey, guys, what are we doing, 519 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: Like this isn't basketball, This isn't a game that we 520 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: were brought up on, like where we're propping up a 521 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: guy or trying to foul guy in the final moments 522 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: just so you can tell break a record. I mean, 523 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. At some point, like the league needs to 524 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 3: turn this thing over to some players who remember how 525 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: the game is supposed to be played and what it's 526 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: supposed to represent. I mean that might be entertaining from 527 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: Miami fans or there in attendance or fans you get 528 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: like a free taco or something if he scores a 529 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: certain amount of points a certain amount of free throws. 530 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: But you know, watching the end of it, it wasn't 531 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: even an entertaining game to watch, just because of all 532 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: the back and forth. I mean, it was, honestly, I 533 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: was watching like disbelief of what the sport has become. 534 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: And I feel like with the NHL will all the 535 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: momentum off of the Olympics, with the way baseball has 536 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: made some subtle changes and you see the impact obviously 537 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: the you know, the World Baseball Classic right now. I 538 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: just I feel like the NBA has tried to pride 539 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: itself and it's kind of you know, the Christmas Day 540 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: Game everything else. The NFL's taken that away. If they're 541 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: not careful, people will continue to care less and less 542 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: about that sport and it will get surpassed by some 543 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 3: of the others that have been beneath it for a 544 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: while because they're not. And this is a large, large 545 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: part to do with Adam Silver too. He's not doing 546 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: anything to guard the sanctity of the actual game itself 547 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: instead of just letting anything happen. And that was evidence 548 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: of that last night. 549 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: And the problem is is that you'll get you'll get 550 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: people who want to defend the sport and the league 551 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: and go all the way. 552 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: And I get it. 553 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: There's you know, TV partners and ESPNS involved, there's a 554 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: lot of people involved, but they'll just they'll call us haters. 555 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: Like they'll say, you're a hater, just trying to be 556 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: a down er. 557 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: All you guys are doing is propping up football, when 558 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: the reality is nobody's been more honest about awful football 559 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: games that we've watched over the past couple of years 560 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: NFL college football than this show. 561 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: We'll tell you the game sucks. They were. 562 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: In fact, that was one of the one of the 563 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: great moments of the show. Getting to come in every 564 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: Monday after Penn State defecated all over themselves in another game. 565 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: That was great. That was fun for us. 566 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: It started off as a number two team and an 567 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: example of that. 568 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Look, that was just a wonderful time to exist on 569 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: this show every Monday morning, having to deal with that. 570 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: But I just, yeah, I don't know how you watch 571 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: that and you're just okay with it. 572 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't. That seems a little weird. 573 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 3: And I'd say this, like, I love the game of basket. 574 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: I grew up playing basketball, you know, and my daughters 575 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: now my kids are all will all play basketball. I 576 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: actually feel like it is the best sport, the most 577 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: fundamental sport to teach kids at a young age that 578 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: will help every other sport they play, so like, this 579 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: doesn't come from any sort of mean spiritedness. This comes 580 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: from like, look at the ratings, look at the downward 581 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: trend of what's happening to that sport and why, I mean, 582 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: what we love is when we watch competition. You know, 583 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why whether you're a hockey fan 584 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: or not. And you could say, well, I'm patriarch and 585 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: that's why I've watched, you know, the the Olympics, and 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: I watched you know, the men's hockey win and the 587 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 3: women's hockey win. That's it was about that. It's like, no, 588 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: it's not. It was because it was a competitive game, 589 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: Like anyone who watched that was like, man, it feels 590 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: kind of like David versus good Liath. We went into 591 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: overtime three B three and you're watching the three best 592 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: hockey players in the world for Canada and they couldn't 593 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: figure out how to get a goal and instead the 594 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: United States did. Like that's one of those all time 595 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: incredible stories. What story is that being told right now 596 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: in the NBA? I mean Lebron Lebron and how long 597 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: he's playing into this at this point but basically just 598 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: playing offense, not really playing any defense. I mean, like 599 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: a team popping up a guy just to beat Kobe's 600 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: old point total. 601 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: And also, like Charles Barkley is one of the most 602 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: brutally honest insiders you'll ever see. There's no He'll just 603 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: call it as he sees it, and that's why he's 604 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: so great. And Charles Barkley openly admits he prefers the 605 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: NHL playoffs over the NBA, and he covers and he 606 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: covers the sport. They've got video of him watching hockey 607 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: games during the NBA games that he's covering on set. 608 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: Like that'll tell you everything you need to know, Like 609 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: it's right there. He'll he'll tell you like, yeah, I 610 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: prefer this product over the other one. It's just yeah, 611 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: that was I see the eighty three, and I'm thinking 612 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: of myself and the first, you know, and here's the problem. 613 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: I see the eighty three and the first thing I 614 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: thought of is how many free throws? Because when Kobe 615 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: got his eighty one, I think he had twenty free throws. 616 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: I think it was something around that number. And I 617 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: go and I check, and there's forty three free throw attempts. 618 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: The Wizards as a team, I think had twenty seven? 619 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 620 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: And well beyond that, the game wasn't really that close 621 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: at them, and I was sitting thinking, why are they 622 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: fouling him? Like you're like, what are the Is this 623 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: really about just trying to get him back to the 624 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 3: free throw mine to score with very little time less 625 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: as their pass it. I mean, it also leads to think, 626 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: is it just guys love Bam at a bio that much? 627 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: Did they dislike Kobe that much? I mean, like I 628 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: would imagine there's some players who idolized Kobe and would 629 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: want to protect that in a manner, you know what 630 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, there's guys who feel that where we're like, 631 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm not going to let him, you know, take Kobe's record, 632 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: or I'm not going to let him take you know, 633 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 3: this away from Kobe's legacy. Well, yeah, apparently that's not 634 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: the mentality of the league. 635 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, If Kobe Bryant was in 636 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: BAM shoes last night, do you think he would have 637 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: been okay with people fouling intentionally so he'd be pissed? 638 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: Well, he'd be. 639 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: Picked by the way, it would have never happened that 640 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: way anyway, you know, he was going to be taking 641 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: all his shots to your point at the free throw line. 642 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: He was going to be making sure he was taking 643 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: shots other on the court. 644 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, congratulations, So there's that. Congratulations to Bam 645 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: Autebayo now second all time in points in a game 646 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: in the NBA history, next to Will Chamberlain and just 647 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: ahead of a Kobe. 648 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: Bryant now at eighty three. So there's that. 649 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 650 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. 651 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Coming up next, somebody's got a radical idea, maybe not 652 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: the most realistic idea, but a radical idea on how 653 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: to fix an entire league, and you'll hear it right 654 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: here on FSR. 655 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 656 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 657 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 5: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am staring three am Pacific 658 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 659 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here, Fox Sports Radio, 660 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming off top of 661 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: next out. 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But check out our new 672 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: channel on YouTube begin. Just search two pros FSR and subscribe. 673 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of 674 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 5: sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to 675 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 5: bring you in case you missed. 676 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: It, and so there's a lot of a lot of 677 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: conversation that is currently going on about how to fix things. 678 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: We just discuss the issue with bam Adebayo's eighty three 679 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: point performance where the league is okay with players intentionally 680 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: fouling so a player can get his numbers up in 681 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: a game. Well, Steve Kerr, who always has an opinion 682 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: on all sorts of stuff, the head coach of the 683 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. He also had some thoughts on how 684 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: to improve the NBA. 685 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 686 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 4: I know this will not be a popular opinion in 687 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 4: the league office, but I will continue to say it 688 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: because it's obvious we need to play fewer games. We 689 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: need to take ten games off the schedule. I think 690 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: it would be great for the league. And I get it, 691 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 4: it's revenue and you'd have to get everybody to agree 692 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: to take a little less money, and that's a really 693 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: hard thing to do. But what I know about the league, 694 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 4: about coaching, about how hard it is to play the 695 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 4: modern game with the pace in the space, I think 696 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: it would be a more competitive and healthier league if 697 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 4: we played fewer games. 698 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Since that's never going to happen, what's a better idea? 699 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you're a head coach, right when you 700 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 3: just mix in more players then to work in less 701 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: playing time for those games, like you have direct control 702 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: of that as a head coach. As far as I'm 703 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: played to use your bench more, Steve Kerr is that 704 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: other works And by the way, going back to the 705 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: bam at a bio for four months all that, uh 706 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: and and just to tie into the ratings. If the 707 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: team that's playing against the buying heat and Bam out 708 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: of Bio does not care about the outcome of the game, 709 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: which they can't if they're helping to foul Bama at 710 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: a Bio. Take them back to the foul line. Why 711 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: should we watch? Why should we care about the outcome 712 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: of the game outside of betting and gambling if you 713 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: don't care about it as a player. Because that's what 714 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: basically the wistars are saying last night is we don't 715 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 3: care we're getting blown out. We're going to help Bam 716 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: out of Bio get this record. 717 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically, you know, uh, stick around and care 718 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: about something, and so the their selling point is yeah, 719 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: but you could be a part of history, like okay, 720 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 2: And that's that's why we say, at least the WWE 721 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: tells you what it is. Hey, guys, you know these 722 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: you're predetermined. You know, maybe you know what's gonna happen, 723 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: but maybe there'll be a surprise here and there. But 724 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: here's what it is. It's sports entertainment. Vince mc mann 725 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: told that. I told that to everybody years ago. We're 726 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: not wrestling, it's not a real sport. It is sports entertainment. 727 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: Clear difference. Last night was just a spectacle. 728 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Like it was. 729 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: It was gimmicky and I don't know. And so it's 730 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 2: now Steve Kerr is saying we need less games. Okay, right, 731 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: good luck. 732 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 3: You're you're in direct control over how long you play 733 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: player per a game. So if you're gonna sit there 734 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: and say, like, oh, the game, the spacing, it's it's, 735 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: you know, such fast paced on that. Okay, there's seven 736 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: guys more, I mean, either that or sick guys out. 737 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 3: I mean, but what do you want to do. They're 738 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: not going to change is the amount of games. They're 739 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: a TV contract. There's too much money on the line 740 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 3: these media networks. I mean, they so advertising, they've got 741 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: some they're not going to try to cut down them out. 742 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: We're really being honest about it. Why don't we cut 743 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: out the gimmicks with the NBA couple over the hell 744 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: in the middle of the season whatever they call off. 745 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: That'd be great playing games for the playoffs. Why don't 746 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 3: we do what we always should make make some of 747 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: those short series in the playoffs so there's actually more 748 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 3: meaningful games in the playoffs where when one team gets 749 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: up by twenty it feels like the other team basically says, 750 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 3: all right, we're on the next game, and that could 751 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: be in the first or second, second quarter. It's incredible. 752 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've talked about it on the show before, like, 753 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: if you if you wanted to actually make the playoffs 754 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: more exciting, especially in the early rounds, make them shorter series, 755 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: go back to your five games, make it a three game, 756 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do. But that's never going 757 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: to happen because they'd be losing money. There's there's too 758 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: much money involved, especially in playoff games. So, by the way, 759 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: in case you missed this, and we'll have plenty of 760 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: thoughts on Brady Quinn, who's really torn over the result 761 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: that took place in the WBC between the US and Italy. 762 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: We will have more on those coming up next hour 763 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: here on the show. But this was a feel good story. 764 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: Japan who won Yesterday, the Japanese crowd a gave a 765 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 2: standing ovation to Andre Satoria. 766 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: He is a Czech electrical worker. 767 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: He received the standing ovation at the Tokyo Dome after 768 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: throwing over four scoreless innings against the Japanese. That was 769 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 2: the final WBC game of his career, so the guy's 770 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: twenty nine years old, probably never going to get a 771 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: sniff in Major League baseball. This is the last time 772 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: he's going to be able to participate in the WBC, 773 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: and the Japanese celebrate him, and you'll see it. 774 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned this. 775 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: There was a Brazilian guy who's a construction worker literally 776 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: is fixing roadways and playing against major league players, and 777 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: that's why I was skeptical on the WBC and I 778 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: was not really into it. And then a few years 779 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: ago I said, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna actually watch this, 780 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: and it's awesome. It is a really really fun event, 781 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 2: and it's it's really good baseball, and there's really good 782 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: stories to go along with it. 783 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually try to win, you know, i'd try 784 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 3: to prop up the other team. So I thought, giving 785 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: appreciation for the storylines behind what some of these players do, 786 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: they're actually competitive games or they're trying to be competitive 787 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: by I should say. 788 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 2: Now lastly here and I figured this was an appropriate 789 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: way to conclude today's edition of In Case you missed it. 790 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox Brady Quinn here on two Pros and a 791 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 2: Cup of Joe. You're just kind of scouring through social 792 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: media and they'll you'll just see random tweets that will 793 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: pop up. And I was just wondering, Brady, if you 794 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: had any thoughts on the following tweet that I saw 795 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: sent out from somebody who I would argue should still 796 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: be considered a Hall of Famer despite how their career. 797 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: But you know, somebody who's very active on social media. 798 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and assume that this was him 799 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: who sent this tweet. But Antonio Brown, who a little 800 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: less than an hour ago, right after we went off 801 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: the air, sent the following tweet quote, bitches, pay a 802 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: local horny photographer and be like, photo shoot today. 803 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: Brady, your thoughts. 804 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what to make of that conclusion too. 805 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: Is he the photographer in this case? 806 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it is It is. 807 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 2: Fair to point out that there are there are women, 808 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: and I'm not trying maybe there's men that do this too, 809 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 2: But I have seen women who rent out a fake 810 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: plane and make it seem like it's their private jet 811 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: and take pictures and post it on social media. 812 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think there's a lot of men 813 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 3: who are guilty of that too. I mean, let's be 814 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 3: honest with ourselves, not just women. 815 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: It's fair