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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp, We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the strategyre of normalcy. Welcome to one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: as we are moving into the middle of the week,

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Speaker 1: day two of mandatory mini camp, as the Bills are

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot Com a little bit later today

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Speaker 1: as well. So, Steve, as you know, I've I've got

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Speaker 1: charge of making meatballs, and we're making them early in

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Speaker 1: no problem making seventy meatballs. So are you you know

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Speaker 1: and right I come over here like like fifty is

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Speaker 1: one thing? Okay? I said, you know, maybe the interstate

425
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Speaker 1: goes through a residential area, you know, maybe there's schools around.

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Speaker 1: Totally get that, totally get that if that's the case.

427
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Speaker 1: But there is no school two blocks off. Yeah, move

428
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Speaker 1: it over. I was looking at my Did I get off?

429
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Speaker 1: Did we exit? Yeah? No, you didn't. There are no

430
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Speaker 1: eggs there's no off ramps. There are no off ramps

431
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Speaker 1: and right, I mean unless you're getting off in Morgantown

432
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: at the University, there is in a single tramp. I

433
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: was like, what did what? Are we on the right road?

434
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Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't believe it. I go where did

435
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Speaker 1: we get these stoplight? What? What's going on? I couldn't

436
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Speaker 1: figure it out. I'd never seen anything like it. I'd

437
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Speaker 1: forgotten all about that. Wow, that's so true. It is. Uh,

438
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Speaker 1: we have some football to discuss with you today full show.

439
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Speaker 1: Right before the second hour of the show, around twelve

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Speaker 1: fifty five, about a half hour from now, we'll have

441
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Speaker 1: Maddie Glab join us from the practice field on day

442
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: two of mandatory mini camp. Then second hour of the

443
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Speaker 1: show pro football focuses. Sam Monson will join us. He's

444
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: got his list out of the top twenty five players

445
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Speaker 1: age twenty five or under. You're gonna be pretty happy

446
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: with where Josh Allen was ranked. We'll talk to him

447
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: about that. And then coming up in the third hour

448
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the show about two hours from now, Bill's wide receiver

449
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins, who has flashed in the spring coming off

450
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: of the offseason shoulder surgery, that basically turned his rookie

451
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Speaker 1: year into a red shirt year, so we'll talk to

452
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Speaker 1: him about that. He's also got a new addition in

453
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Speaker 1: the house from last fall, so we'll see how his

454
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Speaker 1: life as a new dad is treating him as well.

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Speaker 1: So Isaiah Hodgens coming up around two thirty. But the

456
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Speaker 1: Twitter poll today deals with what my grandmother used to

457
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: call adjita, but we call it angst. Yeah, it's it's

458
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: when your stomach's all turned and turning and churning. It's

459
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: an Italian express. Yeah, So what gives you the most

460
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: angst about this upcoming Bills season. I think we're all

461
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: anticipating a very successful season, but as we know, the

462
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: NFL is a cruel, cruel animal, and it can punish

463
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: even the favorites. And I would firmly consider the Bills

464
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: to be a favorite in the AFC this season, but

465
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: we know that things don't always play out that way.

466
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: Look at the forty nine ers. They go to the

467
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl as the NFC champion, don't win the game,

468
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Speaker 1: come back the next year, and injuries ravage that roster.

469
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: They don't even make the playoffs last year. So I'm

470
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: not forecasting that, but we all know that there's a

471
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Speaker 1: lot of scar tissue here in Western New York for

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Speaker 1: all of the suffering over the years, Is there some

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Speaker 1: angst on your part about the upcoming season? There are

474
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Speaker 1: choices for you there at one Bills Live, or you

475
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Speaker 1: could give us a call eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. This

477
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Speaker 1: is a two horse race as well. With our with

478
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: our choices, A and B are running away with it

479
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: be catastrophic event. That's the one thing you can't prepare for.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people have the hangst over.

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Speaker 1: You know, something happened to Josh, something happened to Digs,

482
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Speaker 1: something happening to whoever, Um, Tradavious White, whoever. You know,

483
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 1: you pick your player or you know, COVID whatever. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing you can't prepare for. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing I'm surprised four and a half less than

486
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Speaker 1: five percent of people are worried about when in the division.

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Speaker 1: Not worried about it, they are totally that's it. That

488
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Speaker 1: is a is a West Virginia speed limit sign right

489
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Speaker 1: in the rearview mirror. I would say the angst is

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Speaker 1: at an all time low Yeah, that's a good player

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Speaker 1: in Western New York. Thanks earning football team. And I'll

492
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Speaker 1: tell you what. It's the number, the first selection, which

493
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Speaker 1: is a which is repeating and building off last year's success.

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Speaker 1: I think most Bills fans know what they were looking

495
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Speaker 1: at last year. This team was off the hook. They

496
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: were so good last year. They were a juggernaut. Man.

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Speaker 1: They they were loaded all over the field. Their offensive

498
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Speaker 1: line was playing well in front of Josh the four

499
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Speaker 1: wide set and Josh was just dealing. Oh my gosh,

500
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: he was. He was on a roll, baby. So I

501
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: think most of those people know what they were looking

502
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: at and they think, well, that's gonna be hard to duplicate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this team lost one game in their last

504
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Speaker 1: ten games, and any by a hail mayor Hail Mary.

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00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: They took the lead with thirty two seconds left in

506
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Speaker 1: the game with listen, if if that hail I said

507
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: it before, if that hail Murray doesn't happen, if he

508
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: gets knocked down like most Hail Marys do. That last

509
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: drive by Josh Allen with Cole Beasley catching one hand

510
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: over the was epic. That that was the throw to

511
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Speaker 1: Digs in the end zone that wasn't. Oh, that was unbelievable.

512
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: That was one of his top five throws of the season.

513
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say, yeah, that's one. It's up there, that's one.

514
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: He had another one to dig. It wasn't all that

515
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: different from No, it wasn't it was. It was pretty much.

516
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Speaker 1: But the way they used him where he started to

517
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: roll out right and then wheeled and came out left

518
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: all designed. It was a fake roll right, wheel back

519
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: to the left, swiped, whipped his hips around one hundred

520
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: and eighty degrees and that's a laser. Yeah. That's hard

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Speaker 1: for people my size to do. I can't imagine flipping

522
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: your hips like that on a dead run at six

523
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: five two forty to properly align your hips to deliver

524
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: the ball on target. We should have it, We should

525
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: have we should difference. Tomorrow's trip Twitter poll is gonna

526
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: be Josh's best throw from twenty twenty? What do you

527
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: think it is? We'll give him some, We'll give him something.

528
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: This one is pretty good, the one that was on

529
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Speaker 1: the top five. Yeah, and so's the one in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I think the Kumero throw is that's a that's show.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was just showing off. Then I'm gonna

532
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: fit it in between this crack, I'm gonna I'm gonna

533
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: throw this, and even Mark Schlare at the analyst on

534
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: the TV goes look at that hose and it was

535
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: in slow motion. Whoa. I mean the safety went about

536
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: three steps he saw it throw and got about a

537
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: step and a half into a five step into a

538
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: five step break on the ball and it was already gone.

539
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: I like that idea. That's a what was Josh's honything?

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00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: All right, there's the there's New England. When you just

541
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Speaker 1: mentioned the Arizona one at the Kumero throw, There's some

542
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: others too. Let's see the one in San Francisco, the

543
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: incut to get Gabe Davis over the linebacker in front. Yeah,

544
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: that was in the red zone. That that wasn't a touchdown.

545
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: There was in the red zone. Yeah, man, oh man,

546
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: that was that was in there into the field. That

547
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: was a That was a huge chuck to John Brown

548
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: for what proved to be the game winning touchdown against

549
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Speaker 1: Miamiami two. The one the touchdown throw to John Brown

550
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: or Steph Diggs in Indianapolis, the one where he gonna

551
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: and it just and then there's stuff like the shot

552
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: put throw to Dawson Knox in the India playoff game.

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00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: That's right, and that's great improvisation. Don't look pretty, but

554
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: holy cow, it's effectless. I said this before, and I

555
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: think Pat Mahomes is awesome, But if Pat Mahomes does

556
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: that play that that awkward flip throw, they're like, oh

557
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, that's what they would be saying. And Josh doesn't.

558
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: It's like not even a it's not even a bump

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: on a cardio. Oh yeah, nice, nice, nice job there, buddy.

560
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: Look what he's doing. What he's crazy doing that? He's said,

561
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what's right. That's why he's playing hero ball.

562
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: That's gonna come back to bite him, you know. And

563
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: this where you know they fakes the throw. He takes

564
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: a couple of steps, he's going down and then he

565
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: literally shot puts a helicopter and yeah, that that's one.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Another one. He's got another one against

567
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Speaker 1: Denver where he's going down at a forty five grams.

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00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: It's just for a first down. And in the Denver

569
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Speaker 1: game and he throws it and Dawson Knox catched it

570
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Speaker 1: for a first down and this one where he's like

571
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Speaker 1: falling down and it's another Pat Mahomes play that he

572
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Speaker 1: you know, everybody would be had the tight window touchdown

573
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Speaker 1: pass to uh Stefan Diggs against the rams Um when

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: they beat Ramsey on the back corner. In fact, that

575
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: was probably a better route than it was a throw.

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00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: It was and that was early in the season two,

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Speaker 1: you know that. So those are the some of the throws. Well, well,

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00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: well we'll roll adjection tomorrow before we're on. But that

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: market write it down, We'll forget um write it down.

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00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: We'll forget. We got a break here. But when we

581
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna hear from some some of the

582
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: better comments from Star Latoula's interview with the media yesterday.

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00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: He's back. He's happy to be back, So we'll hear

584
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Speaker 1: from him, and we'll also take a couple of phone calls.

585
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Daniel in Tanawan to Bobby and Lancaster. Hang tight, we'll

586
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,239
Speaker 1: get to you here. On One Bill's Live presented by

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00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, Steve

588
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: and I are just it's still discussing interstate amalies. After

589
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: our West Virginia. Some of these places they've got These

590
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: ramps were built in the forties and fifties, right, so

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: that the Eisenhower administration was the major interstate project. You

592
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: turn off and you were driving you know, a Model

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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: A or whatever, a Packard or whatever, and you're coming

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Speaker 1: off these things and you're only going thirty Yeah, you know,

595
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: because you're driving whatever. And so that when you get off,

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: you know the circle, the Cloverlea, it was so it

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00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: was like it was like a parking garage. It was

598
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: so tight. I mean it was really tight. So they

599
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: just now have like widen and widen bank now right

600
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: now you can go like ninety five on those things,

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00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, it's like, you know, it's like a

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: it's like Nascar left turn all the way right. I

603
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: was telling Steve before the before we came back that

604
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: the on ramps on the old expressways on Long Island

605
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: they're about twenty yards long. So you better be up

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Speaker 1: to speed quickly if you want to have any prayer

607
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: of merging, otherwise you'll be the hood ornament of the

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00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: car coming up behind you. You learn how to drive

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Speaker 1: real fast down there, oh man. In more ways than one,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to star Latula's comments. In just a second,

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Speaker 1: do you want to take a couple of calls real

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Speaker 1: quick here, So we'll go to Daniel in Tonawanda. First, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: you're on one Bills Live. What do you have for us? Thanks, guys,

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00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking my call. And you

615
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: know I work from home, so I'm blessed to be

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Speaker 1: able to listen to you guys and hear, you know,

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00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: just outstanding football information regarding my favorite scene during the

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00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: cost of my day. I hope my employers not listening.

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Speaker 1: The purpose of my call is they say that the

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Speaker 1: greatest throw where I kind of realized the build are

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Speaker 1: really making the next step was when Josh to that

622
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Speaker 1: strike in Arizona. That had to be a forty yard

623
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Speaker 1: strike across the field, not a rope the digs dives

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00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: for it. That should have been a game winning touchdown, right.

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00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, things happen, but in the bigger picture, that

626
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: might have propelled the Bills to greater lengths. And it

627
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me Steve of nineteen eighty seven in

628
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: November when the Bills drew a Miami Dolphins at home

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Speaker 1: in a freezing rain game and they absolutely throttled them

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00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: twenty seven and nothing, and the Bills took the next step.

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00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't. They were seven eighth that year,

632
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: but that propelled them in the greatness for you know,

633
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: almost six seven years. So at the purpose of my call,

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Speaker 1: go Bills, It's gonna be a great time for the

635
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: young people. I'm fifty seven years old and I'm going

636
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: to see a championship before I let this world go back.

637
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: Go Bill. Thanks Daniels, You're right, I think for a

638
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: lot of people, and all of us were relegated mostly

639
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: to watching the team on TV last year, so you

640
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: really couldn't get in there and get it, but get

641
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: in there and get a view of it live and

642
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: in person. But I think, you know, for every good team,

643
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: there are certain moments where you think, we're not the

644
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: same team as we used to be. We're not that

645
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: team that was in the finding moment, that drought team

646
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: of seventeen year drought, and the team that didn't have

647
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: their quarterback and didn't know if they trusted their head coach,

648
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: was this guy going to be the guy? Or we're

649
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, do we get the right player we draft

650
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: rafting well enough? And for all of those questions that

651
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: every team has at certain points, there's always this moment

652
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: where you go, yeah, we can draft you know, or

653
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: whow we do have our quarterback? Or wow, great call

654
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: by our head coach. You know, I love this offensive,

655
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. Those questions get answered. And

656
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: the Bills went through last season win in thirteen games.

657
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: They answered a lot of those questions resoundingly about Wow,

658
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: that was great, and it was it was fun to see.

659
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: And I remember Jordan Poyer last season, after that Arizona

660
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: game and looking back on the season, he said, I'm

661
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: not sure if we rip off, you know, eight straight

662
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: victories if we win that Arizona game. He said that

663
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Arizona loss refocused everyone on the roster to play every

664
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: snap at their ultimate best the rest of the way.

665
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: And he's he's pretty convinced that that that losing that

666
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: game may have actually propelled them to greater heights then

667
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: had they won that game. It's easy to see why

668
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: that would happen. You get a collective consciousness about, man,

669
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: we blew it. It was how can we lose that game?

670
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: How can we lose that game? That's a well, it

671
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: teaches you that it can happen when you invest as

672
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: much as these guys do. And I remember, you invest

673
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: your heart, mind and soul into every game because you know,

674
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna If you don't, it'll suck it

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00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: out of you, right, So, and to lose a game

676
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: in that manner just gut you. I've said it a

677
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: million times publicly, and I've been recorded a million times

678
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: saying it. If Scott Norwood's kick goes in in super

679
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty five, we do not go to four straight

680
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: super Bowls. Yeah, because that was that was a crusher

681
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: that tweaked a little something in most of those guys

682
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: are like, I ain't letting this happen again. We're gonna galvanize.

683
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: It really did. It hardened us, And and we don't

684
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: go to four straight super Bowls if if Scott's kick

685
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: is good because that we hadn't you know, something we

686
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: in which we couldn't scratch unless we went back and

687
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: kept trying. So I think that seeing that Arizona game

688
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: and the way that happened and all those questions that

689
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: we're answering, that it's maybe we can go through. We

690
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: were talking about questions we should ask our listeners where

691
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, assuming you do think this when was it

692
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: you were sold on Brian day Ball as offensive coordinator went,

693
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: assuming that you are sold on Sean McDermott, when was

694
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: the moment when you bought into Sean McDermott in the process,

695
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, assuming you do, when did you believe that

696
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean really knew what he was doing in the

697
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: draft and that he was a wheeler deal? You know,

698
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: this guy, this big baller being that we call him.

699
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, when did you believe that? And all these

700
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: question marks about that have been answered to the affirmative

701
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: so far, And when did you you know, what moment

702
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: was it for you? When when mcdermoty? Was it when

703
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: they when he took a tank roster to the playoffs

704
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: from McDermott. Maybe was it when Josh started complete? Right? There?

705
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Was it when Josh started, you know, throws for three

706
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: hundred yards and then four hundred and fifteen yards the

707
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: next week in Week one and two last year that

708
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: you started believing Brian Dable with the four wide receiver

709
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: sets and the creativity in the red zone offense that

710
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: was a killer. Was that it? When? You know? When

711
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: did you if indeed you do what about Leslie Frasier

712
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: or what about all these guys. So it's interesting because

713
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: so many of those questions we had aren't there anymore. Yeah,

714
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: very quickly, we're just gonna lead off with some of

715
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Star Latu Lay's comments. Here was Star on his decision

716
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: to opt out of the twenty twenty season last year.

717
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: Pretty much with all the uncertainty that was going around

718
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: at that time, not knowing exactly what was going to

719
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: happen and what protocols were going to be, I felt

720
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: like the best decision from myself and my wife and

721
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: my kids was what I decided to do. So that

722
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: was it. I didn't watch every game just because you know,

723
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: it was a little tough, especially that last game, but

724
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: you know, I was happy because the team was doing

725
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: so well. The success that they had last year was

726
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: was great. Um it was. It was a bummer not

727
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, but again, I made

728
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: the decision. I don't regret it, but you know, I

729
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: was happy for the guys, and I I was hoping

730
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Speaker 1: they would have got it done. But you know, it

731
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: is what it is. So I'm back now and we'll

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00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: see what happens this year. So he's pretty fired up

733
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: to get going, and you could just see it. He

734
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: looks reinvigorated. He really looks reinvigorated. Yeah, he looks real

735
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: really happy, and yeah, he just there's no place he

736
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: wants to be. You can just kind of tell he

737
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: wants to be here. We have to take a break

738
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Speaker 1: here so when we come back, we can check in

739
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Speaker 1: with Maddie glab Our, colleague, who's going to be manning

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00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: the sidelines ad mandatory Minicamp practice number two which is

741
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: in the stadium today, So Maddie will join us to

742
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: give us all the updates about the goings on on

743
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: the practice field as they get started here in just

744
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Speaker 1: a few minutes. It's all next on One Bill's Live,

745
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Help. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

746
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Sleeve Jasker with

747
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: you want to pass along. One other comment from Star

748
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Speaker 1: Latula's press conference with the media yesterday. He talked about

749
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Speaker 1: how he couldn't watch every game because it was difficult

750
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: not being there with his teammates from last season after

751
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: choosing to opt out, feeling it was the best decision

752
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: for him and his family during the major wave of COVID,

753
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: and he like a lot of other larger players lineman chiefly.

754
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I think they made up about eighty percent of the

755
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: opt outs in the league. But what was interesting was

756
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: the communication he maintained with the team during that time.

757
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: Here is Star commenting on how he kept up communication

758
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: with the team while he was opting out. Pretty much

759
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: on my communication with teammates and coaches was just through text. Um.

760
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I talked to a few guys on the phone, but

761
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: nothing as far as like being involved with meetings or

762
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, So pretty much everything I had

763
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: was just texting the guys, you know, trying to encourage

764
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: them throughout the season. You know, there were some tough

765
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: stretches throughout the season, but just talking to some of

766
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: the guys and just getting just trying to get a

767
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: feel where their head was at, you know, if I

768
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: can help out in anyway. But that was pretty much it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like he was a hermit and out

770
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: in a cave somewhere and completely isolating himself. But he

771
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: was also asked about, you know, his ability to since

772
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: all the meetings were virtual and stuff. Anyway, was he

773
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: invited into those meetings? That answers, No, when you opped out,

774
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: you're out, and so it would have been interesting to

775
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: see how available or how much he would have been

776
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: able to offer had he been like a like an

777
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: absentee player slash coach. Yeah, but I think the league

778
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: did it the right way. If you can opt out,

779
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: opt out. And as we discussed yesterday, you know, the

780
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: last time he was playing, he had a completely different

781
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Fortunately for him, he comes back. The

782
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: defensive line coach is new to the team, but not

783
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: new to Star because he was Washington was his d

784
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: line coach in Carolina before he left, So it's a

785
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: new face, but a familiar one for him. So kind

786
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: of a cool deal that he was able to walk

787
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: into that after taking a year off. We have to

788
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: break again here quickly. But when we come back, we

789
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: will have Mandy glab from the sidelines at Mini Camp

790
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Speaker 1: practice number two. That's coming up next here on One

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00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio

792
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: at a Steve tester who has been all over the fields.

793
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

794
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: players for Steve a blimp. We're not even in the

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00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: stratit here of normalcy here. You're ready to tee it

796
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: up here on a Wednesday and kick it off in

797
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: the stadium today Minicamp Day moment number two, sun Splash

798
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: day at Himark Stadium and soaking up all the rays

799
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: and the action going on on the field. Is our

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Speaker 1: colleague Maddie Glab who's joining us now from the sidelines,

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00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: and uh, Maddie, how is it out there? Is there

802
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: an extra energy with the guys being in the stadium today?

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00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes that gets guys going even more. You know, the

804
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: music is not as loud as yesterday, so I'm not

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00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: sure if there's an extra energy yet, but I hear

806
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the DJs are going to get started soon. I know

807
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: how loud it was for you guys to listen to

808
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: me yesterday, so hopefully that holds off for a little bit.

809
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: As you can see, the wind is blowing as it's

810
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: blowing all over my hair so it's in my face.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's a nice day sunshining. I'm

812
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: a little chilly because I'm a whimp, But same guys

813
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: who are here is yesterday. One player who went down

814
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: yesterday that I did not see you when I was

815
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: taking attendance was Brian Cox Junior. He was carted off

816
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: the field yesterday in the earlier part of practice. When

817
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: we're looking at red jerseys, you have Reggie Gilliam, Cody Ford,

818
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Zach Moss, and Josh Thomas are the only four that

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Speaker 1: I see in red. I know you asked me yesterday, Brownie,

820
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: if Isaiah Hodgins was still in red. He was not,

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Speaker 1: and he was making quite a few plays at yesterday's practice.

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Speaker 1: I was impressed, right, and that was that was kind

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Speaker 1: of going around that, you know, Hodgens had a really

824
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: nice day and they were gonna be interesting see if

825
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: he could string a couple together. We're actually now looking

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Speaker 1: at the offensive line, and you know, there's a ton

827
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: of guys on the roster, a ton of guys with

828
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: NFL experience. You got guys who just resigned within Darryl

829
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Williams and John Feliciano. I think it has a chance

830
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: to be one of the most and three draft picks.

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Speaker 1: I think it has a chance to be one of

832
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: the most competitive groups in training camp. And even if

833
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: it's the same guys as last year with different backups,

834
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: you still gotta think they're gonna be a little bit

835
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: more productive than they were able to be last season. Yeah,

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00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're hoping it's the same five, and we're

837
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: hoping that it stays the same five throughout the season

838
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: because we saw how injured this offensive line got last season.

839
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Speaker 1: But one of the positives was that when injury came,

840
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: they were able to shift and kind of pick up

841
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: where they left off. So having a tough and physical

842
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: and really talented second string on the offensive line, I

843
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: think it's going to be key for this year as

844
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: it was for last year as well. We saw the

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00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know, with the run game, they could

846
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: have done a little bit a little bit better in areas.

847
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: But when Devin Singletary was asked about the offensive line

848
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: and their continuity, he said it's only going to get

849
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: better this season, being a year older with the group

850
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: as they grow together as a part of the Buffalo Bills.

851
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen has been asked about it too, and

852
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: that's something that the players running backs, wide receivers, Josh

853
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Allen are looking forward to is another year of continuity

854
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: with the offensive line. I know we had the same

855
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: pace as last year continuity wise, but we had some

856
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: injuries on that offensive line, So hopefully this year is

857
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: more healthy for that group as a whole. Of course,

858
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: it was wonderful to get Darryl Williams and John Feliciano back.

859
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people thought that

860
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: both of those players were going to be on the

861
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: roster this season, but that's the case. And then you

862
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: bring in some really talented free agents like for Slamp

863
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: who who started in sixteen games with the Chargers last season.

864
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: I think some of those guys free agents that they

865
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: brought in and even some of the draft picks can

866
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: provide some real competition as we wrap up Mini camp

867
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: and head into training camp at the end of July. Yeah,

868
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: Cody Ford, as we know, has been in the red

869
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: non contact jersey throughout coming off the offseason surgery. We

870
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: see him trying to work in and take a rep

871
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: here and there. Has he been a spectator for the

872
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: most part through these two days, just you know, working

873
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: himself in sparingly. What's been his level of activity, Maddie,

874
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: His level of activity has been more than Zach Moss. Honestly,

875
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: he has been taking a rep here and there and

876
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: then taking some reps off, but he's been more active

877
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: with the group than Zach Moss has been with the

878
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: running backs. Groups, So that's a positive. I mean, I

879
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: think at this point us in Bill's mafia, they just

880
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: wanted to see him have a healthy season. This guy

881
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: has had a couple of tough seasons since being drafted

882
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: by the Buffalo Bills when it comes to injury and

883
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: just really finding where he fits in on that offensive line,

884
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: whether it's guard or tackle. We know that he rotated

885
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: in his first season and really hasn't had a chance

886
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: to find a real home on the offensive why to

887
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if he can get healthy

888
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: for training camp and where that home for him is.

889
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: How do the young old lineman draft picks, how do

890
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: they seem to be fitting in working into the rotation?

891
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: Got you know you're talking like Jack Anderson, We're talking

892
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown and Tommy Tommy Doyle. Yeah, I mean it's

893
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: mini camps, so everybody's everybody's sharing the rep here right

894
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: now as they're really just doing some installment, um, you know,

895
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: doing very little things as it comes to football. When

896
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was asked about what he wanted to see

897
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: for a couple of the positions group, he said, Hey,

898
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: we're in mini camp. It's not like we're really playing

899
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: football yet, So right now we're just trying to find

900
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: tune some things. So that's what they're doing with the

901
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: rookies here, especially, that group is really able to take

902
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity for mini camp kind of just

903
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: get used to the flow of things, get used to practice,

904
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: get used to the coaching tactics by the by their

905
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: position coaches and by their head coaches. But Spencer Brown

906
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: is so tall. The offensive line group was so far

907
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: away from us yesterday, and usually you can't tell the

908
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: size of players when they're on the opposite side of

909
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: the field. But someone likes Spencer Brown. That kid is

910
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: just a tree. Yeah, moving on to tight end, Maddie,

911
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, the most notable addition this offseason was Jacob Hollister.

912
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if you know he's kind of caught

913
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: your eye at any point in time through the spring,

914
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: just based on what's happened out there on the field,

915
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: or if there's anything that you've taken away from his

916
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: skill set, you know that you say, oh, you know what,

917
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: there might be something here that the Bills can make

918
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: use of. Yeah, he's done. He definitely looks like one

919
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: of the other physical more physical tight ends on this roster,

920
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: not really from a height standpoint, but just from his body.

921
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: He looks a little bit bigger than some of the

922
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: tight ends that we have on this current roster. You know,

923
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney is a little bit more of a skinny guy.

924
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: Dawson not as well. You don't really have that blocking

925
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: tight end on that roster aside for my guess Reggie

926
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: Gilliam who's been working in Red. But I think he's

927
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: someone who could possibly be able to fit into the

928
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: group at that level just because of his size. His

929
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: size is not anything incredible, it's just a little bit

930
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: more noticeable next to some of the other tight ends

931
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: on this roster. But he was someone who was kind

932
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: of walking around the perimeter as we started practice today.

933
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's working out the kinks

934
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: of something, but he was kind of off to the

935
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: side a little bit as we started practice today. It's

936
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: going to be interesting battle at tight end because you

937
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: don't know exactly between the running backs. The three running

938
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: backs they've got with the addition of Matt Breeda, Mosson

939
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: Singletary and Taiwan Jones, that gives you four guys that

940
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: really are used to being suited up on Sunday and

941
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: Brownie and now we're talking maybe the tight end spot

942
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: is one of those places where they go with one

943
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: less body, or maybe if you get tight ends, it

944
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: can really go. Maybe the running backs take a shot

945
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: and don't suit up the only suit up two guys.

946
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting at tight end if

947
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: they can make themselves valuable enough to get two, three

948
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: or four guys suited up on a game day and

949
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: what that number will actually be. Yeah, And now that

950
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking off to the side, a Jacob Hollister is

951
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: off on the side on a bike right now. He's

952
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: not with the tight ends currently, But I mean, yeah,

953
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you talk about maybe having one less tight end a

954
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: part of this position group. How many times have we

955
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: talked about this roster is going to be so tough

956
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: to make it and that would make sense possibly having

957
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: one less body at tight end. It's not like we

958
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: have a John ou Smith and a Hunter Henry on

959
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: this roster like the Patriots. Do you have a Dawson

960
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Knox who is entering his third season in the NFL

961
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: after having a tough second season. First season showed some promise,

962
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: but he dropped more balls than he should have, and

963
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: he spoke about that when he talked to the media

964
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. Just working with a hand eye

965
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: coordination specialist and kind of all the things he did

966
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: in the off season to work on catching the ball,

967
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: to work on that hand eye coordination. Some of the

968
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: things that he said were pretty insane catching small tennis balls.

969
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: His coach was able to ship him some things that

970
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: he could use in Buffalo. So he's really working on

971
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: that aspect of his game. And it'll be cool to

972
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: see where he's at in year three, because I think

973
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: this coaching staff expects a lot out of him. We

974
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't add any big free agent tight ends. I know

975
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: Zach Oates was a hot name in free agency for

976
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and he's not here. So I think

977
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: that says that they trust Dawson Knox as if. Now

978
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: we'll see going into this season if they decide to

979
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: add at all to that position or maybe subtracted and

980
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: keep a little bit shorter of a list for that

981
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: position group. And finally for me, Maddie, you know the

982
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, there's a host of new players there.

983
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: I guess the guys that are of greatest interest, you know,

984
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: on the part of the fans. For the most part,

985
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: is the draft choice Marquez Stevenson. I think a guy

986
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: that's largely flown under the radar in Brandon Powell. We

987
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: already talked about Hodgens, So what about those two guys.

988
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, are they getting a fair amount of opportunities

989
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: in this spring setting or are they kind of buried

990
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. I'd say they're getting a pretty

991
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: fair share. Like I said, with the offensive line, everybody's

992
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: sharing reps right now, and Powell and Stevenson made some

993
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: nice catches in yesterday's practice when they started to go

994
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: in their team drill, so I'm looking forward to seeing

995
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: what they can offer today. It even made me, you know,

996
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: this is the time where I'm trying to get the

997
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: roster downpat with all the new guys on this team,

998
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: and I had to look down a couple times and

999
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that was Brandon Powell. Oh there was

1000
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: Marquis Sevens And they had some nice ketches. Of course,

1001
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: they're getting some turns when it comes to part return

1002
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: and kick return with Isaiah Mackenzie, So that's a part

1003
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: where they're getting a lot of reps here in Nitti Camp.

1004
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: All right, Mattie, listen, we appreciate it. Keep your eyes

1005
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: peeled out there. We'll be looking forward to your updates

1006
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com later today. Yep, sounds great, guys,

1007
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: talk to you later. Alright. Bills reporter Maddie Glab joining

1008
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: us from the sidelines at practice today. Steve, you know

1009
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: what I just realized, and I can't believe I hadn't

1010
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: thought of it earlier. Spencer Brown is wearing the same

1011
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: number as Ruben Brown. I noticed that too. I just

1012
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: like it just clicked with me. The light bulb just

1013
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: went off. If you have a Ruben Brown jersey, it's

1014
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: back in style. That's right, pull it back out. It's

1015
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: they all come around, especially if the last name on

1016
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: the jerseys Brown. You got a chance. And also, and

1017
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: now it'll be two full you know, two full rookie

1018
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: classes that are in high Mark and it's empty. Who

1019
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: don't know what that place looks like when it's full. Yeah,

1020
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: on a game day, right, And I've been talking about

1021
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: I was doing some stuff with some buddies last night

1022
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: and they were talking about what it's gonna be like

1023
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: on opening day and one of my friends said, I

1024
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: just got my tick. It's for opening day. It costs

1025
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: me like six hundred bucks apiece. You can't get him. Yeah,

1026
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm telling you. I said that to

1027
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: the to the Zoom call I was on the other

1028
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: day with the Legends and Brandon Bean and Sean mcdermichael. Guys,

1029
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: if you can get here on September twelfth, you gotta

1030
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: come in for this game. It is gonna be a

1031
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: one time only event. If you forget about the rest

1032
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: of the games of scene, they're gonna be gray. It's

1033
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna be crowding all but there's not gonna be anything

1034
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: like that. We gotta get Reuben on. We gotta find

1035
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: out what he thinks about this. He's gotta be okay, sure,

1036
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: he's happy that it's an offensive lineman. I mean, in

1037
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: most cases it's gonna be seventy nine. But the guy's

1038
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: got the same last name too. It's gotta be cool

1039
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: to kind of see your number running around with the

1040
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: same number of the same name on the back again. Yeah,

1041
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool deal. Tommy Sweeney's wearing eighty nine,

1042
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: my old number. Yeah, and I didn't give it a

1043
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: second thought it's good for him. They didn't Bro, they

1044
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: didn't retire my jersey, they washed it. So so whatever,

1045
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Wall of Famer whatever. I'm sure Ruben's okay with it.

1046
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: But it's kind of cool though, you can. I think

1047
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: it's cool that's the same last name on the very

1048
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: cool and I don't know why that didn't dawn on

1049
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: me seeing a back. Let's think about it. That's a

1050
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: high bar for Spencer Brown and nine Pro Bowls or

1051
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Ruben is to me, I'm shocked. Bruce

1052
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: is the only guy that's gone to more Pro Bowls

1053
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: than him, right, I'm shocked. And then you're right behind Reuben.

1054
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm shocked Ruben Brown has not gotten more Hall of

1055
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: Fame consideration. Really, Okay, he was a dominant guard. He

1056
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: was good. He went to assume with the Bears too.

1057
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: He was recognized as such by his peers and coaches.

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: And the guy was a The guy was a stud.

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00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: We may have to get him on soon. I'm curious

1060
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: what his thoughts are with Spencer Brown now wearing his

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: number and same name on the back. I don't know

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00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: why it's I just think that's a cool deal. That

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00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: is because it's not because my last name is Brown.

1064
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: I just think having the same last name on the

1065
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: team you played for, same jersey number, same last name,

1066
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: same position group, that's I don't know that. I think

1067
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: guy would find that pretty dang cool. It's very cool.

1068
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I'm the same as you.

1069
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: I saw seventy nine. I saw Spencer Brown get down there.

1070
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't really see us on he got up. It

1071
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: was seventy nine. I hadn't really you know, I had

1072
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: seen him. I knew he was seven. I don't know

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: why at this point, I don't have these names and

1074
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: numbers like that yet. But then to see him seven,

1075
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: oh oh, that's oh wow. Yeah, I kind of the

1076
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: exact same thing as you when I saw that on

1077
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the on the sideline. That's really cool. That's very cool.

1078
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: And you know, these tackles are huge, as we've already

1079
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: discussed at length here on the show. But I mean,

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00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle, Spencer Brown, big dudes. And I think the

1081
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: guy that's flying under the radar a little bit is

1082
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: Jack Anderson Steve. I mean, this is a guy that

1083
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: was highly decorated in high school down in Texas then

1084
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: goes to play a Texas Tech is a highly decorated lineman.

1085
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: They're playing primarily right guard. But as I understand it,

1086
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's shown some position versatility on the interior

1087
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: there through the course of the spring. And I know

1088
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: it's not real football. Ye, we don't even have the

1089
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: pads on, but uh, I think the early returns on

1090
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: his feet have been pretty good. So I would anticipate

1091
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: him kind of making a little bit of noise in

1092
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: training camp because he's he's known to be a pretty

1093
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: technically sound lineman. It's gonna be an interesting battle and

1094
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: these you know, these rookies, and you're right, I'm we've

1095
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: got to get We got to I'm looking forward to

1096
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: the day when we can do just regular reporting. We

1097
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: have guys stand on the islands because I want to

1098
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: see Maddie doing a sideline interview with Spencer Brown without

1099
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: her shoes on. Well, the videographer is going to have

1100
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: to back up about sixty got to turn your phone

1101
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: lengthwise because oh, that's not happening on a phone. It

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00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: won't not unless Spencer Brown has got her sitting in

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: his arm. Yeah, he's got That's the only way they're

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: face to face for an interview. And I would be

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: no better myself. She couldn't even she could not put

1106
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: the microphone high, hold it high enough to get to him.

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Her arm would be hurting. She's like five feet tall. Yeah,

1108
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: she makes me look TALLI which is that's saying a lot?

1109
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: That all you need to know. So yeah, I'm I

1110
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I really am interested in seeing this offensive

1111
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: line kind of take shape once the pads go on.

1112
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Deon Dawkins said it's Steve when he did an interview

1113
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: with the media. He said, these young guys are big,

1114
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: and you recognize it, and we know why they're here.

1115
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: They're here to push the veterans and maybe take their

1116
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: jobs right, and that that'll tweak the level of intensity

1117
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: in training camp. I make no mistake about it. I

1118
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: know we've all got elevated, you know, skyrocketing expectations for

1119
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: this team in the thirteen win season, like fifteen win

1120
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: season last year, in the playoffs as well, And but

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00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: I will be I'll be really shocked and disappointed if

1122
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: this offensive line isn't significantly better than it was a

1123
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: year ago. I really think this offensive line could take

1124
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: a step forward because of the competition and the depth

1125
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: of competition and the versatility of the guys in there

1126
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: they have got. They've put together a big time roster

1127
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: of NFL players, backups, starters, young talented athletes. They've really

1128
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: really stoked and bolstered that roster the offensive line for

1129
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: a really stiff competition to stay on the field. I am.

1130
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm really going to be interested in the competition and

1131
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: how it shakes out and what they're gonna look like

1132
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: in those three preseason games. And I will be, like

1133
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people, dismayed if they're not significantly better,

1134
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: even if they have the same five guys on the field,

1135
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: or those five guys that we almost thought we were

1136
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: going to get last year and injury kept away. I

1137
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: think they're going to be significantly better this year just

1138
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: because of the pressure on them to play better from

1139
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: the guys around them. Yeah. I just there's a couple

1140
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: of position groups here where there is youth that's pushing

1141
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: to play a role. Right, even at established positions like

1142
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver, the top three are pretty established, but there

1143
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: are gonna be young players there pushing pushing for time.

1144
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's Isaiah Hodgins or Gabriel Davis or

1145
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: you know somebody like that. Pushing for time on the field.

1146
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: Offensive line, you're gonna have the same thing. I mean,

1147
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: you have your same starting five from last year, but

1148
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: you've got Spencer Brown pushing those tackles. You've got interior

1149
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: guys pushing there as well. So I mean you can

1150
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: look up and down this roster. There is an influx

1151
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: of youth that's not just there to learn on the job.

1152
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: They're there to push for a role, and coach McDermott

1153
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: has made no mistake about it. If you're not ready,

1154
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: they'll bring you along slowly. But if you demonstrate an

1155
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: ability to contribute early, and you mind your p's and

1156
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: q's and got all your tea's crossed and eyes dotted,

1157
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get on the field. We've seen it time

1158
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: and time again from every position group both yet wide

1159
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: receiver Duke Williams shows up for a week or two

1160
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: and two nineteen, Jake Kumero shows up for a number

1161
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: of weeks on special teams, and then in the Denver

1162
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: game he catches a touchdown before you know he earns

1163
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: his play on and then the next week he's released

1164
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: and picked right back up by the by the Saints.

1165
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: So all of that you just see guys emerge. Dane

1166
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: Jackson last year showed up. Yeah, Levi Waller, I mean

1167
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: Terren Johnson got sat down for a week or two.

1168
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Then he's back in because of because of his he

1169
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: was back on the field because of an injury. But

1170
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed anything at any week of the season.

1171
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: That's what this was deep into the regular season, where

1172
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: these guys were getting benched and sat down. Trent Murphy

1173
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: didn't see the light of day for the last six weeks.

1174
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: Mitch Morrise was kept out and next after he was

1175
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: cleared to practice and all that he was, he still

1176
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: didn't get back on the field. So it is a

1177
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: constant tension I think internally for each guy by design,

1178
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: by design to stay on top of him his game,

1179
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: his own personal game, and his own personal progress, to

1180
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: stay sharp and relevant every day. And it sounds like

1181
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: it's maybe oppressively pressure packed. I think I think some

1182
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: of these guys thrive on that. I think I think

1183
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: they do, and that's the kind of guys they want

1184
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: to draft. Break time for us here when we return

1185
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: lead NFL analysts from Pro Football Focus, Sam Monson joins us.

1186
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: He just put out his list of his top twenty

1187
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: five players who are twenty five years old or less.

1188
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be pretty happy with where he's

1189
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen ranked. That's next here on One Bills Live,

1190
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1191
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: Look at Back your one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

1192
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Tasker here with you on a Wednesday, and please to

1193
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: be joined now by the lead NFL analysts for Pro

1194
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: Football Focus, also the co host of the PF of

1195
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. It is Sam Monson joining us on the line. Sam,

1196
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: are you navigating successfully through this off season before we

1197
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: can get back to real football? You have the itch already? Yeah, well,

1198
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: last week I actually had a week's vacation for the

1199
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: first time and god knows how long since the start

1200
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: of this pandemic. So it was a nice little break

1201
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: for the for the off season. But now we're basically

1202
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: back into the swing of things and it's previewing the

1203
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: upcoming season. Here we go again. Yeah, it's interesting too.

1204
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: You You put out an article the top twenty five

1205
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: players under twenty five entering the twenty twenty one season.

1206
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was number two on your list, and then

1207
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: he had his birthday and you had to toss him off.

1208
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: I get it. What you know, what was why do

1209
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: you why is twenty five years old kind of a

1210
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: big number for the analytics people. I don't know that

1211
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: it is, actually, I think that it's just one of

1212
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: those nice round figures that it has always made one

1213
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: of these, you know lists, even predating the Enginet, back

1214
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: to the days of magazines and all the kinds of things.

1215
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: It's just a nice round number that you can create

1216
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: these fun little lists off the bank of. But I

1217
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: think it is interesting looking at these young players and

1218
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: how many true superstars there are at that kind of age,

1219
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: Guys before the age of twenty five who are already

1220
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: MVPs in the case of Lamar Jackson, you know, all

1221
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: pro caliber seasons in the case of Josh Allen last year.

1222
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: We've got a stage now in the NFL where players

1223
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: can be genuine All Pro superstars before the age of

1224
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. And looking at those lists and seeing just

1225
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: how good a group of young players there are throughout

1226
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: the NFL is always fascinated. Yeah. I mean, I know,

1227
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: Trdavious White's been on your list in the past. He

1228
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: aged out as well, but I mean, guys, the first

1229
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: team All Pro before he turned twenty five years old.

1230
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, we can relate to where you're coming from

1231
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: on that. It's interesting going up and down the list,

1232
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: especially from this standpoint, Sam, you got a linebacker and

1233
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: Fred Warner, an edge rusher and Nick Bosa, a corner

1234
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: in Jayra, Alexander is safety in Minka Fitzpatrick, and an

1235
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: edge rusher and Chase Young all in your top seven.

1236
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: Five of your top seven are defensive players. Do you

1237
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: think that's just coincidence or do you think that says

1238
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: something about some of the young talent across the league

1239
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: because it's really Lamar Jackson and A J. Brown and

1240
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of defensive players in your top seven. Guys. Yeah,

1241
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it probably is coincidence because particularly this draft,

1242
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: we were looking at the group and saying, this is

1243
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: not a great defensive draft at all, Like all of

1244
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: the talent at the top was on the offensive side

1245
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: of the ball, and teams sort of picking in the

1246
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: top five who actually need defensive help. Say the Atlanta Falcons.

1247
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: You're looking at them and saying, there just isn't a

1248
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: defensive player worthy of the number four overall picks, so

1249
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: they're going to end up getting a guy like Kyle Pitts.

1250
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: Who know, Kyle Pitts is a phenomenal player, a generational talent,

1251
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: potentially a tight end, but not necessar sarahly a position

1252
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: of need for Atlanta, but they didn't really have any

1253
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: other alternatives. So yeah, I think I think we've had

1254
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: some good or better defensive drafts over the past few years,

1255
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: which is why some of these players have made it

1256
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: that high on the list. But yeah, I do think

1257
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: it's it's more just a quirk of the top seven

1258
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: than any true indication that, you know, young players I

1259
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: think dominated any one position or any either side of

1260
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: the ball more than the other. We had this conversation

1261
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: during the draft that a lot of the defenders coming

1262
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: out of colleges are like between ers, like between a

1263
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: safety and a linebacker, and Brownie's made the point, and

1264
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: I was wondering what your analytics guys talk about with

1265
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: these guys who are almost positionless defenders. Were you know,

1266
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Speaker 1: a team will use them in a number of different

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: roles because of their athleticism and because of their size,

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Speaker 1: and because of their willingness if they're a little undersized

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01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: to mix it up in the running game, and because

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: of their speed and athleticism, they can drop into coverage

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Speaker 1: or go one on one in certain situations. Do you

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Speaker 1: see a big trend in that there are more and

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Speaker 1: more guys like that? And it seemed like there's a

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01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: trend in drafting guys like that. Yeah. And I think

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Speaker 1: the drafting part is because you don't really have a choice,

1276
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: right These guys are coming into the league whether you

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: like it or not, and they're not coming from defying

1278
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: traditional positions that you're comfortable with if your NFL teams,

1279
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: so your choice is either to pass them up and

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: select only the guys that come from a recognized scheme

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: that you're happy with, or take the best talent and

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: hope that he will translate to a more conventional NFL role.

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Speaker 1: I think the other thing at play in that dynamic is,

1284
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, the college offenses are different and the college

1285
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: field is different. Those wider hash marks make a big difference,

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01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: and they create this kind of overhang linebacker position that

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a perfect match in the NFL, sort

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01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: of a linebacker who also covers the slot. And there's

1289
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: been a ton of those guys coming into the league

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: recently with varying degrees of success of translating to being

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: a conventional, conventional NFL linebacker. But Fred Warner I think

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01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: is the most successful of them. Like Fred Warner played

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: that kind of overhanging linebacker role in college at BYU

1294
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: and has become arguably the best coverage linebacker in the

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: NFL right now and one of the best linebackers period.

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Speaker 1: But they haven't all been Fred Warners. They've been a

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: bunch of those guys who just haven't found a role

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Speaker 1: or a niche in the NFL because that role doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have to still hold up against offensive

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01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL. You can't spend most of your

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Speaker 1: time covering the slot because NFL offenses and NFL slot

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01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: receivers are too good at it. So you know, even

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: the best NFL linebackers are not spending an awful lot

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: of time split out wide covering the slot. So yeah,

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01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: it is a fascinating dynamic. We spent years talking about

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: how the spread offenses in college and what effect they

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01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: were having on quarterbacks and a wide receiver and the

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01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. I think it probably took

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: a while before we started thinking about what it was

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01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: doing to the defensive side of the ball as well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we're seeing it. Sam. One more

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: thing about your top twenty five under twenty five years

1313
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: old list on Pro Football Focus. I noticed at the

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Speaker 1: bottom there you had two New England Patriots offensive lineman

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: and Michael on when you and Isaiah Wynn. And knowing

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: that they traded for Trent Brown to get him back

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: on the roster. If memory serves, David Andrews is still there,

1318
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: so veteran guys mixed in with some youth. Do you

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01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: think very quietly New England has kind of reassembled what

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,560
Speaker 1: could be a very effective offensive line for them in

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Yeah. Absolutely. I think their offensive line

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: was very good last year, and that was despite a

1323
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: lot of sort of turnover and injuries and reshuffling all

1324
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: the way through the season. If they get a healthy

1325
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 1: run of the guys that anticipate being they're starting, I

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01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: think that will be a very good offensive line, particularly

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: with this offense pivoting towards this sort of two tight

1328
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: end heavy set offense as more of a feature than

1329
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: they had a year ago. That just helps offensive lineman out.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, if You're able to lean on the run

1331
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: game and lean on a power style of play. It's

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: what guys like Shaq Mason were built for anyway at

1333
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: right guard. If they can lean into that and take

1334
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: advantage of the sort of mismatch that they have in

1335
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: size over NFL defenses that have been trending smaller and

1336
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: faster and quicker over brute strength, then yeah, I think

1337
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: that offensive line will be a very good unit. Again,

1338
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: You've also got a list of the top thirty two

1339
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: linebacking corps in the National Football League. You put Matt

1340
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: Milano at number eleven something like that. Give me an idea,

1341
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: why is Matt Maloni's fifth round draft pick? He's got

1342
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: some athletic ability, no question. Why does a guy who

1343
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: has played so well for the build now certainly had

1344
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: trouble staying healthy, but he's played so well for the Bills.

1345
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: How does he slide to the fifth round? Why does

1346
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: he slide to the fifth round? And what makes him

1347
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: such a good player? Once you know he got caught

1348
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: flipping through the cracks, what makes him a good player?

1349
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: I think he's really good in coverage. He's got a

1350
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: great ability to read and diagnose and get to the

1351
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. And so much of linebacker,

1352
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: particularly today, is it's the mental side of things. It's

1353
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: not necessarily how fast you are or how quick or

1354
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: how you know good you can do one on one

1355
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: in space with a running back or a tight end.

1356
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just how quickly are you reading the play and

1357
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: how quickly can you figure out what's going on and

1358
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: get to the right area. Because a lot of it's

1359
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: easy to see when a linebacker gets you know, destroyed

1360
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: one on one by a running back. But that's not

1361
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: most of their plays. What most of their plays are are,

1362
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, dropping to a spot in the zone, recognizing

1363
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: rat concepts, adjusting your drops in coverage to sort of

1364
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: take away routes, you know. And the best displays linebackers

1365
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: may make are ones where the quarterback goes away from them,

1366
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, they want to go to a certain read

1367
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: and have to come off it because a linebacker has

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01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: gotten to his right spot. And Mott Milano is really

1369
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: good at that. He's excellent in those kind of zone

1370
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: schemes and forcing quarterbacks off their first second read and

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01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: getting them deeper into the progression. And the more you

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: can do that, the more time you're buying for the

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Speaker 1: guys up front to get pressure and to cause problems

1374
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: on the play. Speaking of Bill's linebackers, Tremaine Edmonds still

1375
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: has a few more kicks at showing up on your

1376
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Speaker 1: PF Top twenty five under twenty five list because he

1377
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: is so young. Heck, there's a draft pick this year

1378
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 1: Boogie Basham who's older than him, and they got drafted

1379
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: three years later. Where what holes in Tremaine Edmond's game

1380
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: do you believe need to be tightened up for him

1381
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: to have a shot at your top twenty five under

1382
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: twenty five years old list. It's really a consistency thing,

1383
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: and it isn't just Tremaine Edmonds. Linebacker right now is

1384
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: and it's one of the hardest positions in the NFL

1385
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: to be good at because the way NFL offenses have changed, developed, evolved,

1386
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: all of it has started to stress linebacker more than

1387
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: any other position. That's where offenses are targeting now. It's

1388
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: not beating up on cornerbacks, it's not necessarily attacking the safeties.

1389
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: It's attacking those spots at linebacker and stretching them and

1390
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: making them have to cover more and more ground in

1391
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: coverage and just putting them in a bind. And you know,

1392
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: RPOs all these kinds of things, like everything is designed

1393
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: to stress linebackers. So when you look at PFFS grades,

1394
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: you go back ten years, there's a whole group of linebackers,

1395
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 1: a whole ton of these guys who all had fantastic

1396
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: grades because they had very limited, narrow roles and they

1397
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: were good at Guys like bart Scott. His role was

1398
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: to essentially attack a fullback in the hole every play,

1399
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: and he was phenomenal at it. But bart Scott didn't

1400
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: have to do an awful lot of you know, covering

1401
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: two or three different things on a given play and

1402
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: adjusting with his hips and coverage and all these kinds

1403
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: of things. And suddenly every linebacker has to do that

1404
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: right now, and there's fewer of them on the field

1405
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: to do it. So they're just all being stretched incredibly thin,

1406
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: and so many of these guys are not grading as

1407
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: well as they could with an easier job. That the

1408
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: position has just gotten more difficult. So Edmonds right now

1409
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: is a highlight real player. You know, when you watch

1410
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: what he does, there's so many good plays on his

1411
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: tape and you can go through and if all you're

1412
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: picking out is the good plays you can make Tremaine

1413
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: Edmonds look like an Alpro. But it's the consistency, and

1414
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: it's how often those are happening and what's happening in between,

1415
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: And there's just still too many plays where he's not

1416
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: quite in the right place, where he overruns or overcommits

1417
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: or missus a tackle or all these little negatives that

1418
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: build up and kind of offset the good things that

1419
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: he's doing. So he's got youth on his side, he's

1420
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: got the athleticism, he's got the size, he's got all

1421
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: of the things that you need to become that great linebacker.

1422
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: We just need to see him, you know, put it

1423
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: all together and take that next step. One of the

1424
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: first things that Sean McDermott did four years ago when

1425
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: it came to Buffalo, signed two little known free agents

1426
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: at safety, Jordan Poyer and Micah Hide. And since that

1427
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: day they've been about as good as any safety tandem

1428
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think a lot of people were

1429
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 1: surprised by that. Then, when you know, when the defense

1430
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: took shape and those guys started making plays, a lot

1431
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: of eyes were open. You've got those guys on your

1432
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: top A list of top safety tandems in the league.

1433
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: Why are they so good and give us an idea

1434
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: of maybe some other safety tandems that we might see

1435
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: that are just as good or better. Yeah, they have

1436
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: a great combination there. They're very versatile players that can

1437
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: all do a little bit of everything. They both of

1438
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: them don't have any real weakness to their game. It's difficult,

1439
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: you know, to separate how much the scheme helps those guys,

1440
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of safeties would look pretty

1441
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: good within this Buffalo defensive system. We saw that before

1442
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: in Carolina, that this kind of system is very safety friendly,

1443
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: but you still need players to make those plays and

1444
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the beneficial situation that they're in on.

1445
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: Both Poyer and Mica Hyde, I think are really good

1446
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: at that. They each give the Bills the ability to

1447
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: essentially run any kind of coverage. You know, both both

1448
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: of those guys can line up anywhere within that secondary

1449
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: at safety, whether it's a single high, whether it's down

1450
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: in the box, whether it's covering the slot, whether it's

1451
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: in some kind of split safety look or running quarters

1452
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: or covered two. Each one of those guys can do

1453
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: any of those roles and that just gives the Bills

1454
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: so much flexibility in terms of running coverages and adjusting

1455
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: on a given play to what the offense is doing.

1456
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: I think that really helps the defense overall. There's a

1457
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: few safety groups I think that are really good. I'm

1458
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: really excited to see what this Cleveland one looks like

1459
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: this year, given what a disaster that group was a

1460
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: season ago. They bring and John Johnson in free agency.

1461
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the moves of the offseason.

1462
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: Guys like Ronnie Harrison were there from midway through last season.

1463
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a much better player

1464
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: this year, potentially getting a guy like Grant delpit Bank

1465
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: and contributing that way. I think the Browns have the

1466
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: potential to have taken huge leaks forward with their with

1467
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 1: their secondary Sam, thanks very much for the time. We

1468
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you bringing us up to speed on some of

1469
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: your lists. Will keep an eye out for more that

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be coming down the pike here at

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Speaker 1: PFF dot com. Thanks very much. All right. Sam Monson,

1472
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: lead NFL analysts for Pro Football Focus, just back from vacation,

1473
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: already assembling previews and rankings lists galore. So oh my God. Yeah,

1474
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because I've seen this a lot.

1475
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 1: We're saying, hey, you know you're you're trying to project

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Speaker 1: what these teams are going to look like. And I

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: think it's always dangerous because it bothers me when you've

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01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: got this team. All of a sudden, this team's ranked

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Speaker 1: really high because they brought this guy in and this

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Speaker 1: guy in, and they drafted this guy, when they drafted

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01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: that guy, this guy, and automatically they go to the

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: top of the rankings. When we've all seen it takes

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01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: a while for those things to come together when you've

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: got new pieces, even if it's a high round draft

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01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: pick that kind of thing. It takes some time for

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01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: those guys to joel and to get acclimated to each

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: other in the system. I asked Sam about on When

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: You and Isaiah Win in New England on for a

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Speaker 1: reason they're on his top twenty five list for being

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: under age twenty five and Win has battled injuries, their

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: former first round pick from twenty eighteen, and really hasn't

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: been able to kind of put it all together, although

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: last season he did pretty well. On When You has

1494
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: been a diamond in the rough, former sixth round pick

1495
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: had to fill in in some spots last year due

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: to injuries. Never played tackle in his life and kicked

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: out there and played a couple of games for them

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: and didn't look horrible. And they're projecting when to be

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01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: the left tackle on when you to be the left guard?

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01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: David Andrews is back at center and healthy Shack Mason

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01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: has been a stalwart for them at right guard. And

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01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: they just got Trent browned via trade back on their

1503
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: roster for at least this year. That's a big group.

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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: And we were just talking yesterday about how all the

1505
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: defensive linemen here looks slim down in an effort to

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01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: have an all out pass rush. And it looks like

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01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots, at least in terms of how their offense

1508
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: is going to be constructed, they're gonna go against the green.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be thrown at fifty times a game.

1510
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna be throwing at twenty five times a game.

1511
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be RPOs and it's gonna be playoff and

1512
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be running the football. It's gonna be running

1513
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, I agree. I think that concerns me

1514
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. Well, you gotta be ready for that,

1515
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: and that's what the Patriots almost beat the Bills doing

1516
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: it week the first meeting last year. Yeah, something around there,

1517
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: and that's and that's what Baltimore roade Lamar Jackson to

1518
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 1: the MVP with, Oh yeah, they played the Patriots Week

1519
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: eight last year as a twenty four twenty one game.

1520
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: It was the Justin Zimmer game. So that's they're going

1521
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: to do that. You know they will. And their passing

1522
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: game is going to be centered around those two tight ends,

1523
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: which is also a problem for the Bills historically covering

1524
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: tight ends. It's right, and it's just in. If you

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: want to win the AFC East, you better build your

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01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: team to beat the Buffalo Bills right now. Yeah, and

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: that's what the Patriots are doing absolutely well. I think

1528
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: that's why they're going against the grain a little bit

1529
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: based on what they have. A quarterback, in my estimation,

1530
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: a guy that can't throw anymore but can still give

1531
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: you something in a read option game. And then a

1532
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback who may be ready sooner rather than later,

1533
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: but you don't quite know yet. So build up your

1534
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: line so you have a run game that can either

1535
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: a support the young quarterback or support the guy who

1536
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: can't throw. And that's why I'm not surprised they've gone

1537
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: the direction they've gone. I think that only gets you

1538
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: so far in this league going that way. If that's

1539
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: if you can find it a way to beat this

1540
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: team in Buffalo, Well that's what I mean. And when

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: you line up against Buffalo, or you line up against

1542
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City, or you line up against maybe even Indie,

1543
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: if Carson Wentz can catch fire, you're gonna have a

1544
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: problem keeping up on the scoreboard unless your defense is

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: lights out and you're I mean, New England's gonna have

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01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: to win games seventeen, ten, seventeen, thirteen, twenty to twenty

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: to sixteen. Buffalo may score, you know, they'll score seventeen.

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01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: They're not hanging thirty burgers on anybody. Yeah that Buffalo

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01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: is gonna score seventeen points a half. Yeah, you know,

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean virtually. And they say New England nine and

1551
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: a half. They're scoring fifteen points a half. Last year

1552
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: New England in a way almost looks like the twenty

1553
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: eighteen well I shouldn't say twenty eighteen Bills, maybe the

1554
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Bills. Offense, you know, the offensive line is

1555
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: retooled and ready to go, but it's the quarterback play

1556
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: isn't quite there yet. Top three defense they had, yeah,

1557
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: top flight. I mean that's the kind of mold that

1558
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: they look like. But that only get over. But I

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01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: think Belichick would take that and win ten games and

1560
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: be happy with it. In a seventeen game schedule. That're

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01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: gonna be enough. Well, yeah, that's a good point. But yeah,

1562
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're talking about, and that's and

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01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: that's what they're banking on. You've got crucial games you

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 1: gotta win, and they're all in your division. For the Patriots,

1565
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: that's where it starts. And then they worry about you know,

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01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: they worry about the Chiefs and the Colts and the Browns.

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: You know, from this point, that's where you're talking about

1568
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Colts, Browns, and Bill. You worry about them

1569
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: later on down the road, if you're going to see

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01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: them in the playoffs, that's when you worry about the

1571
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: Browns and the Chiefs. For right now, you gotta beat

1572
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: the Bills, the Dolphins, and the Jets, and that's what

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: they're building to do. They're gonna be the odd man

1574
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: out on a offensive scale because they're gonna they're gonna

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01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: be running, you know, twelve personnel all the time, maybe

1576
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: twenty two personnel. Yeah, it's gonna be something to keep

1577
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: an eye on for sure, because I think when everybody

1578
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 1: is zigging, the Patriots are going to try to zag

1579
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: not just to be different, but because it's probably the

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: best idea for what they have on their roster to

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01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: try to execute right in the beginning. I don't think

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01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: there's no question they're gonna be a different team in

1583
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: December January than they are in September October. You and

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01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: I both believe Mac Jones is gonna get on the field,

1585
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: He'll be the guy, and they'll start running a lot

1586
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: of different things in their throwing game, passing game than

1587
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: just you know, because when you take Cam off the field,

1588
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: quarterback is no longer going to run at all in

1589
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: that offense with Mac Jones. Break time for us here.

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01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: When we return, we're gonna get some of your comments

1591
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet. What is your high what has

1592
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: got you with the most angst about the upcoming Bill season?

1593
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: Choices are there for you at one Bills Live. We'll

1594
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: be back in a second with some of your thoughts.

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01:24:44,560 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Next stay right there. Welcome back to One Bill Live.

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. It is time for

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01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: a little tweet sheet action, brought to you by Corregan

1598
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills.

1599
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: As we are asking you what gives you the most

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01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: angst about this upcoming Bill's season, and we go to

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01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet now, and leading us off today is Brian.

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01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: The NFL injury rate is one hundred percent. We have

1603
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: a great staff, team and culture, but this is the

1604
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: biggest area where there is the least amount of control.

1605
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: A small divot in a field can end a career

1606
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, and no amount of preparation can completely

1607
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: negate that. Holy crap, negative Nelly here. Wow, I'm a

1608
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: little concerned, crying. You're gonna be ourn be a cold shower. Bro. Well,

1609
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: we are asking about angst here, so I get it. Yes,

1610
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: he's right, and that's that's leading the charge in the

1611
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: poll as well. I mean, it's the it's the we

1612
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: called it catastrophic event, so we're in we're being vague

1613
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: on purpose. We are. Yeah, we're in the same boat

1614
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: as Brian too. If if something bad happens, you know,

1615
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: a bus wreck or something like that. Um, yea. But yeah,

1616
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you can't control, and that's what's

1617
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: got a lot And I think it's telling that a

1618
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying it's the one thing we

1619
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: can't control because we got everything else under control. Yeah,

1620
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's it's a nice

1621
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: place to be for Bills fans, um, you know. And

1622
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: it's a fun place to be. It's better than we've

1623
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: we've been in a long long time where the most

1624
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: important thing is how you gonna Are you gonna get

1625
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: tickets to that game? And where are you gonna park?

1626
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: And you know that's the most of the ants that

1627
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: goes along with this season upcoming at this point. Yeah,

1628
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: I he's right. You can't control the injury thing. And

1629
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: it was a problem from guard to guard on the

1630
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: offensive line last year. They couldn't get that right. They

1631
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: never got it right, just kept getting nicked up. And

1632
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: then even on the back seven, you know, Milano and

1633
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: Edmunds in and out, in and out, in and out,

1634
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 1: and then you had Levi Wallace out for a month,

1635
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: Josh Norman missed time with a hamstring. It was like

1636
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: shuffling the deck the back seven of the defense. It

1637
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: was no coincidence, Steve that the defense got better in

1638
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: the back half of the season just because they got healthier, right,

1639
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 1: the healthier, and the front was a little better as well.

1640
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: Because they had a lot of new faces and they

1641
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: started to get acclimated to the system. They started to

1642
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: play better together, more and more reps together with different combinations.

1643
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: They got used to each other. Aj Epanessa got on

1644
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: the field a little bit more, Matt Mulano got healthy

1645
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 1: and bounced back into the lineup, Tremaine Edmonds got over

1646
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: his shoulder injury. All a whole combination of stuff went on.

1647
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer started to, you know, his motor started to

1648
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: show through a bit, even at Oliver was you know,

1649
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: showed flashes of a brilliant So the deeper this team,

1650
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: and it's a thing it's hard to predict, but you

1651
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: said it, and you've been saying it since day one.

1652
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: The thing about this staff is when this team starts

1653
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: out of season, they start to develop, and by the

1654
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: end of the season they are in a much different

1655
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: place with the xs and o's than they are at

1656
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. And you can tell it

1657
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: on the field because of the production on both sides

1658
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: of the ball, all three sides of the ball. Yeah,

1659
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: so I'm with you on that. I I'm just looking

1660
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: forward to seeing how far this team can grow in

1661
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: this coming season. Seth on the tweet sheet says, I'm

1662
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: going with B. I'm not even gonna say what that

1663
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: choice is. With the exception of forty nine and fifty

1664
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: eight being banged up, the team was able to stay

1665
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: relatively healthy in twenty twenty. If guys stay in the lineup,

1666
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: repeating and even improving upon last year's success will be

1667
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: easy enough with even more talent on the roster now.

1668
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I was talking last segments Steve about

1669
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: this young this young player movement, this influx of youth

1670
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: that people are looking at them like, all right, yeah,

1671
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: they'll just kind of learn on the job, and you know,

1672
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: eventually they'll learn a starting role. But you got young

1673
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: guys that want to get in, they want to get

1674
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: on the field. And some of these guys have enough

1675
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: talent where you say, well, man, they put together a

1676
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: good training camp, make some plays in the preseason. They

1677
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: may not start, but they'll find a way to get

1678
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: on the field in a given week, in a given matchup,

1679
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: in a given game plan. There's a lot. There's a

1680
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: lot to say about just hanging around waiting for your

1681
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 1: chance and giving yourself a chance the week after week.

1682
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: And that's what that's really what it's about as far

1683
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: as the NFL is concerned. You got you can't play

1684
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: if you're not on the team. It starts from there.

1685
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: And these young guys are just saying, listen, give me

1686
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: a spot on the roster. I'll take the rest of

1687
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: it from there. And they've got a long way to go,

1688
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: most of the young guys. And this is the way

1689
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: it is in virtually league wide. The young guys. The

1690
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 1: biggest obstacle for them getting on the field is between

1691
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: their ears. Yeah, how much of the system can they

1692
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: get acclimated to? How much can they feel comfortable with?

1693
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: The athleticism is what got them in the door. And

1694
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: with it, you know, the fact that they got, you know,

1695
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: in finger quotes, fresh legs. You know, you got a

1696
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: guy like Mitch Morris said, concussions, he's had injuries. You know,

1697
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: John Feliciano, torn peck, he's beat up. You know, all

1698
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,919
Speaker 1: this stuff. You can go down the list. Matt Milano's

1699
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: got knicks and bruises, you know, and all this stuff

1700
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: from you know, you carry that stuff with you wherever

1701
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: you go. I mean, it's it's theirs. You get a

1702
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: guy like you know, Spencer Brown and all these guys

1703
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: coming in and Rashad Wild Goose coming in. These guys

1704
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: are all just fresh out of the rapper and so

1705
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: their athleticism shines when they get out on the field,

1706
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: but they they don't know what to do with it yet.

1707
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: They don't know how to use it. They don't know

1708
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: the techniques, they don't know what they're being asked to do,

1709
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and this big scheme of things, they don't have a

1710
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: They know what I'm where I'm supposed to line up,

1711
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: and they know what I'm There's pretty much where they're

1712
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: supposed to do and what it's supposed to look like.

1713
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: But as far as the stuff going on around him,

1714
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: they can't help. They don't know if they if they,

1715
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, if they took a little bit of a

1716
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: wider path that the guy could come underneath them better,

1717
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: and if they set their defender up on the in

1718
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: the secondary a little better, the incut on the outside

1719
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: would be you know, they don't have those big picture

1720
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: nuances and that's what keeps him off the field. It's

1721
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: not their athleticism, yeah, it's the finer points of the game.

1722
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: It's knowing the game plan backwards and forwards to us

1723
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: set at list last week and I didn't have the

1724
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I didn't have that game, the game book, the playbook cold,

1725
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: and he knew what he was doing. He'd call the

1726
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: plays and he could execute him. But he didn't, you know,

1727
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't part of him. And that makes an enormous

1728
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: difference for young players, and the faster that happens, the

1729
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: faster they get on the field. Russie on the tweet

1730
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: sheet says, injuries are always scary, but we have a

1731
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 1: deep roster, so I think we can overcome it. For me,

1732
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: it's the division itself, especially the hoodie. You just know

1733
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: he is up in Foxborough scheming and conniving away to

1734
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: beat us. His d will be scary again and we

1735
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: have to deal with what he throws at us. I

1736
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,879
Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be as scary if Stefan Gilmour

1737
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: isn't there, and we're waiting to see how that plays out,

1738
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: as he was not a mandatory mini camp and the

1739
01:31:54,760 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: general assumption is he wants a new contract. But we'll

1740
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: have to wait and see on that. But yeah, New

1741
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: England's gonna be better. I mean, everybody's striving. I think

1742
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: you can make a pretty safe argument everybody in this

1743
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: division got better this offseason. Right. The Bills may have

1744
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: gotten a little better too. I'll say this. The thing

1745
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: that scares me about the Patriots isn't that they got better.

1746
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: And you knew they would. The opt outs are coming back,

1747
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: they're drafting, they got the free agency, they had money

1748
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: to spend it free. You knew they'd come back and

1749
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,480
Speaker 1: be better. The thing that scares me about the Patriots

1750
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna look completely different. You can't get a handle

1751
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: on what they're gonna look like. Now. Certainly the Bills

1752
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,839
Speaker 1: get a break. They don't see them till week thirteen,

1753
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: so you're gonna know who they are by that time,

1754
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: and that's good for the I think that's good for

1755
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: the Bills. Usually you think, okay, if we get those

1756
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: guys earlier, we got a chance against them. Yeah, because

1757
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: it takes them a while to get act on me.

1758
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,799
Speaker 1: Because everything they do is it seems from the outside

1759
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: a little complicated. You know they got a lot of

1760
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: moving parts to them when they change their roster like

1761
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: they do, but the Bills, by the time they play

1762
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: them in week thirteen December December six, you're gonna have

1763
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: a handling exactly who they are. And I think that's

1764
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: a plu this year. I think it's a plus for

1765
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: the Bills in that regard because the Patriots are going

1766
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: to be a different animal this year offensively than they

1767
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: were a year ago and defensively for that matter. From

1768
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: Brian on the tweet sheet, he says, seeing this CP

1769
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: three thing, Chris Paul in Phoenix with the playoffs, I'm

1770
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:24,919
Speaker 1: worried about COVID at the worst possible time. Well, hopefully

1771
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: that's not an issue because the trend continues to move

1772
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: in the right direction with respect to vaccinations on this roster.

1773
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott addressed that subject yesterday in his zoom call

1774
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: with the media, where he said, I feel better about

1775
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 1: our vaccination situation today than I did three weeks ago,

1776
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: and he feels that the vaccination rate is moving in

1777
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: the right direction. Whether it's going to get where he

1778
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: would prefer it to be so they can conduct business

1779
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: as usual, Well, that remains to be seen. And if

1780
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:59,560
Speaker 1: you do have an important player who was unvaccinated, that

1781
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: risk will always be there. It will always be there.

1782
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: And we saw it in the NBA playoffs. Phoenix is

1783
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: just about to take control of their playoff series and

1784
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: they lose their point guard, Chris Paul. And that's the

1785
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of catastrophic event we're talking. Yeah, that is. And

1786
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: the frustrating thing is that's something that can be taken

1787
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: off the table as a potential pitfall this year, and

1788
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Chris Paul decided not to do it, and now he

1789
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: may cost his team advancing in the playoffs. John rom

1790
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: did it. A PGA professional was leading a tournament by

1791
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: six shots and got COVID and cost himself one point

1792
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. This before we take a break here,

1793
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: this just came across our West Seneca police. Did you

1794
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: see this? I did not, But they are known for

1795
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: having a very humorous Twitter feed. Just a heads up,

1796
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: they say, just a heads up that the pyrotechnics company

1797
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: used by the Buffalo Bills are going to be conducting

1798
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: tests this evening at the stadium here, Hi, Mark. If

1799
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: the last test is in the indication, they're basically the

1800
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: final boss of fireworks, so plan ahead accordingly. If you

1801
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: have pets or loved one sensitive to fireworks, I mean

1802
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: you can come out and watch. Yeah, this just in.

1803
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I gotta come out fireworks at the stadium tonight because

1804
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: they're testing it for the season. Is that real? Jay Harris?

1805
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: Can you could be? And I went to the I

1806
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: went to the West Police Department. I've googled it and

1807
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: sure enough, that's on there. So I'm sure Jay will.

1808
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: We'll reach out to his deep seated police sources to

1809
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: get confirmation and quarter that's right. Jay's the one lighting

1810
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: the fuse. He say, he's perfect though, expert. That is cool.

1811
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: It's a sign of things to come. I hope they

1812
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: need a billion dollars worth of fireworks this season for

1813
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: all the Bills. By a billion. Yeahs in fireworks, great

1814
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: time for us. Our number three coming your way. We'll

1815
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: see if we've got some players off the practice field.

1816
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: Don't forget. We've also got Isaiah Hodgins coming up at

1817
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour about a half hour from

1818
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: now here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

1819
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who

1820
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 1: has been all over the fields kind of unique. He

1821
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1822
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated here

1823
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: of normalcy here, Ah or number three here on a Wednesday,

1824
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Players are off the field now

1825
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: as a mini camp practice has concluded for day number

1826
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: two here on Wednesday took place in the stadium. We

1827
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: brought you up to speed with our Bill's reporter, Manny

1828
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: glab Out on the scene. She joined us in the

1829
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: second hour the program and let us know what was

1830
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: going on over there. It looked like tight end Jacob

1831
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: Hollister was not doing much working on the side and

1832
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: riding the stationary bike today. Hopefully nothing too serious for him.

1833
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 1: And Brian Cox Junior, who unfortunately was carted off the

1834
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: field early yesterday, not out there at all today, so

1835
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: hopefully it's nothing too serious for him and he'll be

1836
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 1: ready to go for training camp. We're also going to

1837
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: be talking to Bill's wide receiver Isaiah Hodgens in about

1838
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty three minutes from now, so we look

1839
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: forward to that conversation and if any of the players

1840
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 1: jump on to address the media, we will carry that

1841
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: here for you to listen in as well. We are

1842
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: using some of your comments from the tweet sheet regarding

1843
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 1: today's Twitter poll, which is what gives you the most

1844
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 1: angst about this upcoming Bill season? And catastrophic injuries are

1845
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: leading the way and not surprisingly so. But Kendall says,

1846
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: I chose A because I am worried we didn't do

1847
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: enough to fix our running game. And A on the

1848
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Tweetchee Choices was repeating the success the team enjoyed last year.

1849
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Kendall's worried they didn't

1850
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: do enough to fix the running game. What needs to

1851
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: be fixed. They ain't gonna run anymore. I mean they're

1852
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: not gonna run anymore. They ran thirteen They were won

1853
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: thirteen games last year with a gauntlet of a most

1854
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: difficult sc one of the most difficult schedules in the

1855
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: National Football League last year, and they averaged thirty points

1856
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: a game against that And Josh had faced ten top

1857
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: ten defenses out of the sixteen games, and he crushed them.

1858
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: And he had two four plus touchdown games against those guys.

1859
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: So they're fine. They're running games. Find the way it is,

1860
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: they can get it better. No question, they'd like to

1861
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: do it. But what are you gonna do? Run it more?

1862
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: Why you're scoring twenty nine points a game throwing it?

1863
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: Don't you're not. It's not broke, So I don't care

1864
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: if they you know, if it's fixed. It was fixed

1865
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: enough last year. If you're gonna score thirty points a game,

1866
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't care. If you're not breaking off fifty yard

1867
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 1: runs for touchdowns, you're throwing it fifty times when scoring

1868
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: thirty points? Do that? Yeah, I'm I'm in favor of

1869
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: that as well. I mean, I get it if you're

1870
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: but you're you're looking. You know, you're looking for warts

1871
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: on Miss America here, you know, don't waste your time.

1872
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: Don't waste your time. I do think that people do

1873
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: get hung up on being balanced on offense because that's

1874
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: what you heard for so many years. Oh you know,

1875
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 1: we want even coaches say it, we want to be balanced,

1876
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. If you're this good in the passing game,

1877
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: like think of the Rams, great a show on turf.

1878
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: Do you think they cared how many times they ran

1879
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: the football? No, because they were so ridiculously good at

1880
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 1: throwing it all over the yard that it didn't matter.

1881
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Went to two straight Super Bowls doing that, right. Yeah, So,

1882
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: if you are so elite in one area of your offense,

1883
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 1: getting the other part of your offense up to that

1884
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 1: level doesn't hold a tremendous level of importance. It's got

1885
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: to be competent, but it doesn't have to be just

1886
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: as good because you're so dang good at doing the

1887
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: other thing. They're they're loaded, So don't worry about the

1888
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: This is never gonna be the Baltimore Ravens over here.

1889
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're throwing it. Man. They got they

1890
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: got a stable of wide receivers and they're gonna ask

1891
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Um so yeah, fixing the run

1892
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 1: game now, just you know what are they gonna do?

1893
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: Run it? You know what? For an extra yard and

1894
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: a half on average per carry? Forgive me if I yawn,

1895
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just it's it's a throwing league. They

1896
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: throw it as well as anybody. Do that. Do that.

1897
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 1: Make sure your pass pro's good. Make sure Josh stays

1898
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: upright in the pocket. Let him extend to play here

1899
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: and there for a big one. That's it. I get it.

1900
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: It's but you're you're looking for problems just because if

1901
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: he can't get comfortable with what they're doing, just get

1902
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: comfortable with it and just do what you do and

1903
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 1: do it better. And that includes the running game. Fine,

1904
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: but your running game doesn't have to take front and

1905
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,760
Speaker 1: center and it doesn't have to be your you're you

1906
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you don't lose anything and you're passing it.

1907
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: That's why you trade out John Brown, you get Emmanuel Sanders.

1908
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: You don't get lose John John Brown and bring in

1909
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Levion Bell or draft Travis Atn or Nagi Harris. You're

1910
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: not going to give those guys the ball anymore than

1911
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: he did these other two guys. And what's he gonna

1912
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: do get an extra five yards a game on average?

1913
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: Nobody care. That's not important. You can run it better, okay,

1914
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: but you're not going to run it more often, and

1915
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: you're certainly in the red zone. Your quarterbacks the bigger

1916
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: threat to run it than any running back you're gonna

1917
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: put out there, and defenses know it. NFL Networks Tom

1918
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: Pellicero has just tweeted out that the NFL and the

1919
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: NFLPA have agreed to updated COVID nineteen protocols for twenty

1920
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: twenty one training camp and the preseason. So basically a

1921
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: memo was issued to clubs that listed the protocol modifications

1922
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: for vaccinated individuals, coaches, and players. So if you are

1923
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated and you are a coach and or player

1924
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: on an NFL club, you will not be required to

1925
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: test daily. Masks will not be required at the club

1926
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: facility or during team travel. No physical distancing required in

1927
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: the club facility with other vaccinated individuals. No quarantine after

1928
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:11,520
Speaker 1: high risk exposure to COVID, no travel restrictions, no capacity

1929
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: limits in the weight room. When all fully vaccinated, you

1930
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 1: can eat in the cafeteria with other fully vaccinated teammates.

1931
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: No restrictions on social media, marketing or sponsorship opportunities out

1932
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: in the community. You can use the sauna in the

1933
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: steam room, and you can interact with vaccinated family and

1934
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: friends during team travel on the road. If you're not,

1935
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: you're getting tested every day, have to wear a mask,

1936
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: have to do physical distancing, have to quarantine after high

1937
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: risk exposure, fifteen player limit in the weight room, travel

1938
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: restrictions and effect must be physically distanced in meal rooms.

1939
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,679
Speaker 1: May not eat with teammates, must get grabb and go meals.

1940
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: If you're a staff member can't use the sauna of

1941
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: the steam room. Basically, you can't do anything I said

1942
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: the vaccinated people can do. That's gross. So that's for

1943
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: training camp and the preseason, as the players union and

1944
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: the league still have to get together and approve how

1945
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,520
Speaker 1: the regular season is going to look in terms of protocols.

1946
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: But this is what's laid out for training camp and

1947
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: the preseason right now. Right not surprising, and I think

1948
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 1: once again this is an example of the league trying

1949
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: to incentivize getting vaccinated. It's clear that NFL coaching staffs,

1950
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: at least as far as head coaches are concerned, recognize

1951
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: the clear advantage of reaching a threshold so you can

1952
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: conduct business as usual. They see the advantage of what

1953
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 1: that gives them with their daily operation. Now it's up

1954
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: to the players being convinced, Hey, not only is this

1955
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: going to help me and my personal health, but it's

1956
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: also going to help our team because we're if I

1957
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 1: get we're one step closer to business as usual. It's

1958
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: really I gotta tip my hat to McDermott and Brandon

1959
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Bean and even the players as well for it. Everybody's saying, listen,

1960
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 1: we're not talking about this this vaccine stuff outside the

1961
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 1: locker room. We're gonna it's a personal choice. They can

1962
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: do whatever they want, but you gotta think too. There's

1963
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 1: going to be an enormous amount of pressure on guys

1964
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated when they look around the league at

1965
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,160
Speaker 1: other teams and saying, well, all those guys are vaccinated.

1966
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: They're just they're going out to dinner, They're going out

1967
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: and doing public appearances. They're practicing, they're eating together, they're

1968
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff together. They have no social distancing,

1969
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: no masks. It's business as usual like it was two

1970
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 1: and a half three years ago. It's just perfect for them.

1971
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: And here we are getting tested every day, going out

1972
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 1: and sitting in a field by your you know, individual

1973
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: individually distanced, socially distanced tables, individualized tables, listening to a

1974
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: loudspeaker of a guy on an overhead trying to teach us.

1975
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't talk to him, they can't see anybody got

1976
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: a mask. That's an enormous amount of pressure to take

1977
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff away for players. I think, yeah, and

1978
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: I've got to tip my hat for the club for them,

1979
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff and all the things they've said publicly had

1980
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 1: has been everything butt pressure to get it done. Yeah,

1981
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 1: I thought coach McDermott struck the right tone yesterday when

1982
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 1: he was asked a question about that. He said, We're

1983
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: trying to do our best to educate and build awareness,

1984
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the players have

1985
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: to make their own decision. We feel like we know

1986
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: that in our country and around the league where and

1987
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: how things are improving, and to me, there is a

1988
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: direct correlation to people getting vaccinated. Again, I would like

1989
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 1: to continue to see our team move in that direction,

1990
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: continue to move and increase the number of people that

1991
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: are getting vaccinated. I certainly respect everyone's position. That's really

1992
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 1: where I'm at and where we're at. It's good to

1993
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: have the guys here, but I think the reality of

1994
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: our situation is that now but also for sure come

1995
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 1: the fall training camp, protocols are going to continue to

1996
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: be enforced, as we just found out from the Tom

1997
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Pellace Aero report, in particular for those who are unvaccinated,

1998
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 1: as it relates to the masking of the different things

1999
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: that are in place, just trying to be real about

2000
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: it and make sure people understand what normal is going

2001
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: to look like. In particular for those who are unvaccinated

2002
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: come the fall. Yeah, it's real. It's still here and

2003
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: it's still real. But you can change that. You have

2004
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: the power to change that, not only for yourself but

2005
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: for your team and your club. And so the pressure

2006
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: that you talk about, I think is very real, especially

2007
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: if you have somebody that is staunchly against it. Yeah,

2008
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: So be interesting to see just where that goes going forward. Again, Tom,

2009
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. If you're you've got to

2010
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: think it's some person. And I'm not saying yes or no,

2011
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: thumbs up, thumbs down, the fact it's sold everybody's choice,

2012
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to feel some serious internal pressure

2013
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 1: of your own self when you're when you're socially to

2014
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: everybody else's in a room you know is over here

2015
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: unmasked and going to eat and do it, and you've

2016
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: got to be you're separated from all of that because

2017
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: of your because of COVID and not being vaccinated. That's

2018
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard line. The interesting thing here is,

2019
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not speaking for any unvaccinated people

2020
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 1: at all, because I know there are varying degrees of

2021
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: reasons why people don't get vaccinated. Sometimes it's legitimately medical.

2022
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: But for those that are not getting vaccinated because they're

2023
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 1: saying it's a personal choice and you're violating my freedom.

2024
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Look at all these protocols that are in place for

2025
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: people that are unvaccinated. There's a lot of things they

2026
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: can't do. There's a lot of things they can't do.

2027
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 1: They can't even they can't even there's full travel restrictions

2028
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: during if you get to the regular I mean, you

2029
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: get to the preseason, full travel restrictions. You can't go

2030
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 1: off for a you know what I mean, Like you

2031
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 1: have a day off, you can't leave town. Yeah, you

2032
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: do a lot of good community work, you can't do that. Um,

2033
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: it'll be it's the club. He just for expediency's sakes.

2034
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you're all the fully vaccinated guys, how

2035
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: many say you say? You got half of them? So

2036
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 1: half of all you're half you can go in and

2037
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: go work out. The rest of you guys got to

2038
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: wait until they socially distance. They can only be fifteen

2039
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: of you. Fifteen of you'll go right and the rest

2040
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: of you, you know, got to do something else. That

2041
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: seems more like in a restriction on freedoms than anything else.

2042
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: And it's only in place because that's that's what the

2043
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: union thinks too. Well, yes, this came from the league

2044
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: and the union join me. If our guys don't want

2045
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, that's fine, but they gotta even the

2046
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: unions tell them. You got to be separated here, and

2047
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: you want to talk about splitting it down the middle

2048
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: because the union is responsible for all of their members.

2049
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: That's how you You got to ride the fence here

2050
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: and do right by the people that are vaccinated while

2051
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 1: also not trampling on the choices of the unvaccinated. That's

2052
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: a that's a tough line to walk for the NFLPA man,

2053
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: that's a tough line to walk. But think about it

2054
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: can be very hard to make everybody happy in that situation. Yeah,

2055
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 1: and that's yeah, it's it's interesting. It's it's gonna be

2056
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: really interesting, dynamic, and we'll never we may never find out.

2057
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: We'll probably get inklings and reports and guys will start

2058
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: talking about whatever from other teams and other teams. You'll

2059
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:40,440
Speaker 1: hear about it. What it was like before everybody was vaccinated,

2060
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: or what the conversations were like before everybody was vaccinated,

2061
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 1: or or even without everybody vaccinated. What the conversations are

2062
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: like now, when you got a certain percentage that are vaccinated,

2063
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: a certain percentage that are not, and the conversation that

2064
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: go on. We're gonna find out how that dynamic came

2065
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: down in the each locker room across the league. Sometimes

2066
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 1: we may never find out, but I'll bet you we'll

2067
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: get reports and inklings about guys who will after it's

2068
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: all over, they'll say, yeah, it was. It was rough

2069
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 1: because we had guys like in shouting matches about the

2070
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: vaccine whether they get vaccinated or not, or some guys

2071
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 1: might say no, we never even had the conversations either

2072
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 1: you are you aren't, and if you are, you're over here.

2073
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: If you aren't, you're over there. It'll be really interesting

2074
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: to find out how this all was handled internally on

2075
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: the personal relationships of these players, because as we've seen

2076
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: with Starlow two, Lele being opted out and some of

2077
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: the like you know, Josh and Cole Beasley and all

2078
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: these guys who who've you know, come out publicly with

2079
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: in the off season with some form of rhetoric about

2080
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: the vaccine. You know, what was it like when these

2081
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 1: guys who were really good friends have to have that conversation,

2082
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, with other guys on the team. Yeah, it'll

2083
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: be interesting, just another step in the process. I guess

2084
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: we have to take a break here. When we come back,

2085
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: we will have Bill's wide receiver, Isaiah Hodgens. We'll talk

2086
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 1: about him getting back on the field, get rid of

2087
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: that red non contact jersey. He's probably happy about that.

2088
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: And he's a new dad. It's only he's been a

2089
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: dad for less than a year. We'll talk to him

2090
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Hodgins Junior. When we come back. You're on

2091
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2092
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Wive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

2093
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: with you, and please to be joined now by Bill's

2094
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver Isaiah Hodgins joining us on the show, fresh

2095
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: off the practice field from day two of mini camp. Isaiah,

2096
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. We want to

2097
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: begin here. Last year, at this time, you know, you

2098
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,799
Speaker 1: were just getting your feet wet in a virtual setting.

2099
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: You weren't even on a field yet because of COVID

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Speaker 1: and everything, as you well know. I'm just curious what

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Speaker 1: was the stress level like once you got to training camp.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you're trying to navigate the whole COVID

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: situation with teammates and coaches. Then you're also trying to

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01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 1: make a roster and you're also trying to fight through

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Speaker 1: a shoulder issue. So where was your stress level on

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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten last year? You know,

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Speaker 1: it was a little different, definitely going through all that stuff,

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01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: and you know, you're used to being in college and

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Speaker 1: having spring ball and leading up to things, and at

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Speaker 1: least as you were saying, knowing the playbook and all that,

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Speaker 1: and me dealing with an injury hand kind of not

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Speaker 1: having a real offseason, you know, it was real different.

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Speaker 1: So I felt like we kind of just got thrown

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Speaker 1: into the fire. So it was definitely a different experience,

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Speaker 1: and you know a little bit more stressful than I

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Speaker 1: feel like how the rook is in the past have

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Speaker 1: been through. But I feel like the coaches helped to

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Speaker 1: lie and you know, we made our way through it.

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Speaker 1: How difficult was the decision to shut it down last

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Speaker 1: year with your shoulder? And was there was there an

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01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: incident that did it to you that finally said hey,

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: I got to shut it down or how did those

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01:53:56,240 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 1: conversations happen? Yeah, I mean I into getting drafted, and

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01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, the staff and the coaches and everyone knew

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01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 1: that eventually I had to get shoulder surgery. You know,

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Speaker 1: I already had a tarrance in my shoulder and it

2127
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: was pretty bad where you know, it was affecting me

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01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 1: a certain amount. But we kind of both communicated that

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01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to play as long as I

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01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 1: can and try to see, you know, how long it

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01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: will hold up. And there was just a couple of

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01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: incidents during camp and you know outside of camp, just

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01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: lifting and other stuff where it just wasn't really hold

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01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: enough good. And it was a hard decision because I

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01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 1: really wanted to keep pushing and felt like I was

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01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: just about to get ready to get back out there

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01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: on the field. But you know, me and being kind

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01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: of came to a decision together that you know, it

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01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: was time to you know, wrap it up and get

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01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: ready so I could be healthy for next year and contribute.

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01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 1: If there was a silver lining to you know, basically

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Speaker 1: taking a red shirt year here, it was it was

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01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: the fact that you probably had more time to spend

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Speaker 1: with your growing family because Isaiah Junior came along right

2145
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: after the season opener, right, Yeah, Yeah, definitely, it was.

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Speaker 1: That was definitely when positive that I feel like helped

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01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: me a lot. I was able to spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time with my son and you know, help out

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01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 1: my wife and you know I wasn't as gone as much.

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01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: So I gotta see him, you know, grow throughout the months,

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01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a great experience, you know, being

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01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: a first time dad and it still is. So you know,

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm still watching him grow and you know it's just

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed being that music. He is he long? Like?

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01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: Is he long like his dad? Or Yeah, it's crazy.

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01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where he gets. I mean I get

2157
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: the height, but he's like ninety nine percent how in height,

2158
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 1: hand weight, I mean even to this day. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: his doctor checkups are always funny. So you had this,

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01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: So you had the surgery, you had the baby. How

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Speaker 1: long did it take you? Or and tell us about

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Speaker 1: your status? Now when have you since? When have you

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01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 1: been healthy? And how I mean you just came out

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Speaker 1: of a red contact jersey just this week. How has

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Speaker 1: it felt and how has that process gone? Yeah, I

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01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 1: mean I've been looking forward to you know this ota

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01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: in minicamp, you know, this whole time because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's my first time being back on the field since

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Speaker 1: last training camp. But you know, it was a six

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Speaker 1: months recovery from when I got surgery in December, so

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Speaker 1: I finally got cleared this month. So that's why it

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Speaker 1: took me out to Red Jersey. So you know, I

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01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 1: was super excited to get out there, and you know

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Speaker 1: it just kind of run around and not have to

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Speaker 1: think about my shoulder because you know, even last year,

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Speaker 1: even on practices where it didn't dissocate or nothing happened,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was just still in the back of

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Speaker 1: my head that you know, something that could happen to

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Speaker 1: it and I didn't need surgery. But you know, now

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01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: that I got surgery, and you know, I've done a

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01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of recab with this training staff and done a

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Speaker 1: great job helping me. You know, I go out there

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Speaker 1: and I have a whole different confidence in my shoulder now,

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: so I feel like it's helping me as a player

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01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and I'm just curious, Isaiah, because once

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Speaker 1: you make the decision that okay, we're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: shoulder fixed, but I still want to stay engaged. I

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01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 1: want to you know, I want to be in tune

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01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: with everything that's going into the offense every week, so

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01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: I can keep up on how that morphs and changes.

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01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've already learned very quickly how Brian Dable

2192
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 1: is not afraid to change something as late as a

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01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: Thursday on a game week and put it in for Sunday.

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01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: And you want to be on top of all that

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 1: stuff even though you might not be physically repping it

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01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,880
Speaker 1: on the field. So what did you do to stay

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01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: as engaged as possible so as not to have such

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01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: a huge learning curve when you did get back on

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Speaker 1: the field here in the spring. Yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 1: just took a lot of dedication of just you know,

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Speaker 1: studying and really staying on top of things and day

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Speaker 1: ball and you know, my wide receiver coach chat and

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01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: some of the vets like Digs too, would just telling

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01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just really same tapped in and

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01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: really trying to pick something every day to kind of

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01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: learn from everybody. And you know, I was taking that

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01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 1: whole time to really learn the playbook and learn all

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 1: the positions so you know I could go in and

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Speaker 1: slide outside z X or whatever, and you know, and

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01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: just really sitting in every practice and watching digs and

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01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 1: hide packings in and out and Colby's and what he

2212
01:57:44,760 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: does and at the time John Brown, and you know,

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01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: just learning the offense more. It's and now where now

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Speaker 1: I have the confidence to where I know every position,

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01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I have some tools that I didn't

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01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 1: have last year that you know, I learned from just

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: watching and sitting back last year. So I feel like

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01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 1: taking that step back, you know, I didn't want to

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: do it, but it kind of helped me in the

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01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 1: long run. So you had your your son, your first

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01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 1: time father this last September of last year, and now

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Speaker 1: you a lot of people don't know that your dad

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01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 1: also was a Super Bowl winning fullback with the Rams

2224
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: back in the day. What has he passed on to you?

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 1: And if there was something that you knew right now

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Speaker 1: you were absolutely going to pass on to your son,

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Speaker 1: what would it be. I feel like my dad passed

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: a lot on to me, just really knowing the ins

2229
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: and outs of the NFL and obviously you know and

2230
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: changes every year, but him just you know, teaching me

2231
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: how to last in the NFL and you know, where

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01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 1: some pro habits that I need to have and you

2233
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 1: know what they're looking for and how I need to

2234
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: act and you know what I can do every practice

2235
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: and he played with a lot of great receivers like

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01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: Glaifa Cheryl and Klan Bolder and Tory Hole Isaac Bruce,

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01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: and he would tell me just to practice habits of

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01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 1: these guys and they would do and you know, how

2239
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 1: they would practice and how they would compete. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I felt like I took a little bit of all

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01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: of that, you know, and I feel like for my son,

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01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, I would basically, you know, try to tell

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01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: him the same thing and just you know, getting him

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01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: the insights of it, but just really just making sure

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01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: that he has that confidence in himself. And I feel like,

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01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, the wide receiver room, we talked about that

2247
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 1: as a live it's just you know, really, you know,

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01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 1: chussing you first and really believing in you and your

2249
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: talents and what you can do, because if you don't

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Speaker 1: do that, then someone else isn't going to do it

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01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: for you, and the quarterbacks that can chesss you if

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01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: you don't chuss yourself. So you gotta really sit there

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01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 1: and have confidence out there will be Ductrin Howdy every day.

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Speaker 1: I remember when you know, I interviewed you and your

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01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 1: brother for a story we did on Buffalo bills dot

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01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: com last year. You were talking about how your dad

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01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 1: was pretty tough on you guys in terms of making

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01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: you football a ready at a pretty early age. Can

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01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 1: you just share with the audience because I thought it

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01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 1: was hilarious because I can I can picture this, and

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01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: I just picture a neighbor walking by on the sidewalk

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01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: watching a dad put put his kids who are still

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01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 1: like probably what under ten years of age, and you're

2264
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: doing ladder drills and push ups and he's he's got

2265
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: the hose out there and he's hitting you with the hose. Like,

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01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: just just relay that for our listening audience so they

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01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 1: can kind of picture it. Yeah, did that one time

2268
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 1: because I told him I wasn't doing that again. That

2269
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 1: was crazy. He really had us out there doing like

2270
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: gator rolls and Lata Joe's and just a bunch of

2271
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 1: different crazy stuff like on the front porch, like while

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02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: spraying us with the hose because it was like, you know,

2273
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: there's like a hot day. So I don't know what

2274
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: he was trying to simulates, just like rainy games or

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Speaker 1: just something. I feel like he was just really getting

2276
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: a kick out of it looking back, because you know,

2277
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 1: we were little and we were just like, yeah, we'll

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02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 1: do whatever you say, so, you know, we were kind

2279
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: of just having fun with it. But yeah, I mean, yeah,

2280
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 1: there's there's tons of moments like that. But you know,

2281
02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: he definitely taught us a lot and it was fun.

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02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: You've also got a younger sibling, Isaac, who is a

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02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: defensive end in college at Oregon State. You're you're alma

2284
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: mater as well. Both you guys came out of there.

2285
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Give us an idea of what his career plans with,

2286
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: what's he likes, he likeking it. Did you have a

2287
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 1: good experience at Organ State, how's his experience going, and

2288
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 1: do you guys talk about and what do you talk

2289
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:54,360
Speaker 1: about when you reach back to him. Yeah, I mean

2290
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 1: I had a great experience at Worgan Stay. I felt

2291
02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,160
Speaker 1: like they really got me ready for the NFL, and

2292
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 1: my wide receiver coach there is great and I felt

2293
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 1: like they put them in a great position to succeed

2294
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: playing in the slot, playing outside and all that. And

2295
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Speaker 1: then I love playing with my brother. You know, it

2296
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: just reminded me of we played on the same high

2297
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: school team, the same pop warning teams. So just you know,

2298
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 1: growing up playing always on the same team and then

2299
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 1: being at that collegiate levels and now we're playing way

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02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 1: bigger games and seeing him on defense, you know, play

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02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: versus Oregon and get a sack and you know, do

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02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 1: all this while I'm just on the sidebying on offense.

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02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: So you know, it was just fun to watch that

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02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 1: and it kind of just always took me back to

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02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,320
Speaker 1: the good old days. And then there was always those

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02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 1: times with practice too, where there is time I can

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02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 1: get a little cheap shot on him, you know, I'll

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02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 1: get it. But you know that's just the brotherly love

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02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: that we had. But you know, I feel like he's

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02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,280
Speaker 1: doing great. He has great pro habits, and he's a

2311
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: hard worker man. He's always first one on the field,

2312
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,240
Speaker 1: last one off, So you know, I feel like his

2313
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 1: feature is very great. Talking to Isaiah Hodgins, Bill's wide receiver,

2314
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: and I understo shared with us before we came on

2315
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,200
Speaker 1: the year that he's actually getting married this weekend. So

2316
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 1: you got a high tail it out of town to

2317
02:01:56,440 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 1: get to the ceremony. How is your best man's speech

2318
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 1: shaping up? I'm assuming you're the best man. God, I

2319
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 1: hope you are. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely the best man.

2320
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of working on the speeches. I'm trying,

2321
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta do the toast at dinner and

2322
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 1: the speech, and it's just a bunch of different stuff,

2323
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm still kind of working on it.

2324
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I got to get out of here on

2325
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 1: the Friday, heads straight to that wedding. So you know,

2326
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Fan. It's a big step in his life. Man. Well,

2327
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 1: good luck, appreciate it's good. Thanks for coming on, Isaiah.

2328
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:29,000
Speaker 1: Good luck, travel safe, and congratulations on getting healthy, getting

2329
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: back on the field and giving the Bills fans and

2330
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: the Bills coaching staff a chance to see what you

2331
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 1: can really do. Congratulations, sir, I'm excited. Thank you guys

2332
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: for having me. All Right, take care, Isaiah. We'll catch

2333
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 1: up with you down the line. Good luck the rest

2334
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 1: of the way. Enjoy your break here before training camp.

2335
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: That's Isaiah Hodgins, Bills wide receiver, joining us here on

2336
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: the show. That's a big deal, man. The best man speech, Yeah,

2337
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. You don't want to mess it up.

2338
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 1: You got to nail that, yeah, because that's your guy,

2339
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Him. It's his brother. He'll

2340
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 1: never live it down, you know what I mean. And

2341
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: you always wonder, because I've done one. You always wonder, like,

2342
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 1: all right, what's the tone I'm trying to strike here?

2343
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 1: Do I want to be like a total cut up

2344
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: and have people laughing their rear ends off? Or sentimental?

2345
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: Do I want to get a little sentimental? You know,

2346
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: maybe pull a couple of tears out of the audience,

2347
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:23,120
Speaker 1: like what are you what are you aiming for? There?

2348
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll strike the right tone, and I'm sure

2349
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,240
Speaker 1: there'll be a couple of jokes in there too, because

2350
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 1: those two guys, um, there a lot of one are

2351
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: under the bridge there. I mean, siblings are siblings for

2352
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,560
Speaker 1: the in the first place, but didn't to play competitive

2353
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:38,040
Speaker 1: football at that high level together. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

2354
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 1: And they're only two years apart, so they did get

2355
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 1: to play two years in college together at Oregon State.

2356
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, they've been teammates on

2357
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 1: a football field forever. You got an NFL Super Bowl

2358
02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:56,480
Speaker 1: winning fullback as a dad. I mean, football is life

2359
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 1: like literally for these guys. Yeah, and it's kind of

2360
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 1: nice that we got Isaiah on today because Yesterday's reported

2361
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 1: widely by people who are observing prob We watched it

2362
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 1: for you know, we had Maddie out there for a minute,

2363
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: but a lot of people said, if there was one

2364
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: guy who stood out yesterday in practice at Mandatory Mini Camp,

2365
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 1: it was Isaiah Hodges. Made some great catches and some acrobatic,

2366
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 1: tough catches and did it a number of times. So

2367
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: he kind of flashed yesterday. So we got him on

2368
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen had some very nice things to say

2369
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 1: about him too. He said, he's surprisingly quick and I'm

2370
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 1: not all right, we have the bite perfect. Well let's

2371
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 1: go to that. Here is Josh Allen talking about what

2372
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah has been able to do on the field here

2373
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: in the spring. And he's surprisingly quick, you know for

2374
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 1: like I'm not talking long, he's got that too, but

2375
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 1: just a short game quickness and getting off of jam

2376
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:48,839
Speaker 1: and making a good release. But he's got the ability

2377
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 1: to play multiple positions. You see him high point a

2378
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: pretty nice thrown ball today and go up and get it,

2379
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 1: and you know those not everybody has the ability to

2380
02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:00,280
Speaker 1: do that. So his body control has been fantas asking

2381
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: and above that, he's a he's a guy that likes

2382
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: to have fun, a guy that always has good energy,

2383
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 1: and he's a he's a fun guy to be around,

2384
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 1: fun guy to be around. And that body control is important,

2385
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 1: like for six three guys. You know, if you can

2386
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: have body control with that kind of a length, ball

2387
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: skills are are huge, particularly if you've got a big

2388
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: guy with ball skills. You know, fifty fifty balls turn

2389
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 1: into seventy thirty balls. Yeah, and that's you know, that's

2390
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: a huge asset, and it's that's a tough room to

2391
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 1: make the club. Yeah. And I'm just I'm just gonna say,

2392
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: because I've said this before on this show, but I

2393
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: watched a lot of his college tape. We were in

2394
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 1: the midst of a pandemic last year. I probably watched

2395
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: more college tape because I'm sitting in my house with

2396
02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 1: nothing else to do on these guys than anybody than

2397
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: maybe any other year prior. And the thing that just

2398
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: stood out to me is how open he gets on

2399
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 1: double moves. I don't know what he does with shoulder

2400
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 1: fakes or turning his hips to get the DB's hips

2401
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 1: turned under flipped, but he leaves people behind on double moves.

2402
02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:07,280
Speaker 1: He is so deceptive, and I don't know that he's

2403
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: going to burn up the stop watch, but you know,

2404
02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,560
Speaker 1: and you can verify this because you know certainly a

2405
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 1: lot better than I do. Separation in this league is

2406
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: not all about how fast you are. It's how precise

2407
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: you can be and how quickly you can change direction

2408
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 1: in short areas. And even though he is six three,

2409
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:33,000
Speaker 1: he can do that, which is very rare for players

2410
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:38,640
Speaker 1: that size. It's a missing young players almost notoriously. You know,

2411
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 1: if they're a fast guy, they want to use their speed,

2412
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 1: which means they're trying to do everything fast. They hurry

2413
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: through their routes. And one of the key components of

2414
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 1: running a good route is being patient with it. At

2415
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 1: the top. It's not about out running, particularly unless it's

2416
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 1: a nine route go route where it turns into a

2417
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 1: foot race, and there's a lot of technique involved in

2418
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: that even but anything underneath that a post route, an

2419
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 1: in route, an outroute, come back, you know, a hitch,

2420
02:07:01,120 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 1: whatever you name the route, it's about fooling the defensive

2421
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:08,560
Speaker 1: back you're who's guarding you into thinking you're running a

2422
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 1: different route. And to do that it takes great patience

2423
02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: in a very small window of time. If that makes sense.

2424
02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 1: You have to make sure you do everything that you

2425
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 1: do on the other route before you snap it off

2426
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,760
Speaker 1: and bring the route you're running. And that's the only

2427
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: way to get loose from these you know, pro dbs,

2428
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: And it takes great patience and a lot of athletic ability,

2429
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 1: and it's hard to learn. And that's what being a

2430
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 1: good route runner is. And if you're able to do that,

2431
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 1: particularly with a six three frame, you get separation and

2432
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 1: you're a big target. You know, that's that's a perfect

2433
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 1: storm for a wide receiver, and it means a lot

2434
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 1: of catches, a lot of targets, and a lot of

2435
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:51,920
Speaker 1: productivity for your quarterback. Quarterbacks love guys who run arounte

2436
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: in the secondary and turn around and they're all by themselves.

2437
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 1: The key for him is going to be continuing this

2438
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 1: level of showing up in practices when the pads go on,

2439
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of receivers who look really

2440
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: good in the spring when the pads aren't on and

2441
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:14,640
Speaker 1: they're not getting a hard jam at the line. Now,

2442
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: as you heard Josh say himself, releases are not a

2443
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: problem for this kid, right, he gets off of them

2444
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 1: very effectively. I think there are a lot of components

2445
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 1: of his game that are all ready NFL ready, and

2446
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 1: now it's the nuances of this offense that I think

2447
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,200
Speaker 1: he's got a master here to really take it to

2448
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:36,040
Speaker 1: something like a Gabriel Davis type level. Right, And it's

2449
02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 1: interesting that Josh said he's it seemed Josh insinuated that

2450
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 1: Isaiah was getting off the ball with his quicks in

2451
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: those typespace in the slot receiver spot, which which is

2452
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 1: unusual for a guy that's sixty sixty three because usually

2453
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 1: guys that are bigger in stature use physicality to get

2454
02:08:56,360 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: loose from the jam. Right, They slap the guy's arms off,

2455
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 1: they kind of run through him. They you know, they

2456
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 1: give him a swim technique. But for a big guy

2457
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 1: like that to be using quicks to get off the

2458
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:10,800
Speaker 1: line at the bump in the slot, uh, that's that's

2459
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: a huge compliment in my opinion, because it you know,

2460
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:16,600
Speaker 1: it takes I mean, that's what that's what small guys

2461
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:20,960
Speaker 1: like me, like Cole Beasley, like you know, Julian Edelman,

2462
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: all those guys West Welkers of the world. That's the

2463
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 1: quicks are what those guys used to get off the line.

2464
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: If you got a six three guy that's quick enough

2465
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 1: to do that in the slot. I'm telling you that's

2466
02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:31,080
Speaker 1: why you can get separation in the in the back

2467
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,800
Speaker 1: end of the route too, because that's what does that.

2468
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: You come out of the explode, out of those breaks

2469
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,760
Speaker 1: and you got separation. The interesting thing is Josh said

2470
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 1: on the Zoom call yesterday that Hodgens right now is

2471
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: working at the X and the Z. They haven't moved

2472
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 1: him in there yet, presumably because you got Sanders, you

2473
02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: have Beasley. I know Brandon Powell has worked out of

2474
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 1: the slot, or at least he did with the Falcons

2475
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 1: Mackenzie and McKenzie. So put the taller guy outside. I

2476
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:58,120
Speaker 1: get that, um, but you give that kid a two

2477
02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 1: way ago, he's gonna leave people behind. I I think

2478
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 1: he's got a really good shot to make an impact

2479
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: as a rookie this year. It's a place where we've

2480
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 1: rarely seen in this franchise, where you've just got so

2481
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 1: many really good players and so many intriguing players there's

2482
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: just not enough room for them. You know, there's a

2483
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:19,280
Speaker 1: lot of guys on this roster that may not get

2484
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 1: on at least of fifty three or maybe to get

2485
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 1: on the fifty three not see the field very much.

2486
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 1: That would have or go to someplace some other team

2487
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: and be pretty productive for their offense. That's it's a

2488
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 1: great place to be, you know, but you just gotta

2489
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,640
Speaker 1: do your best to be there. Yeah, you gotta stick around. Yeah,

2490
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 1: and it may come down to who can stay the healthier,

2491
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 1: who's who's most durable. Good conversation there with Bill's wide

2492
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,880
Speaker 1: receiver Isaiah Hodgins. We have to take a break when

2493
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 1: we come back, Steve and I close it up here

2494
02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday on one Bill's Line, presented by Collid

2495
02:10:48,840 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned?

2496
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

2497
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Well, I think we learned

2498
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:18,440
Speaker 1: a few things about Isaiah Hodgens process last year when

2499
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 1: you can't be on the field because a surgery gets

2500
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,240
Speaker 1: in the way of you performing each and every week.

2501
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 1: And that's really what happened. I mean, his shoulder just

2502
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 1: would not stay in. It kept popping out and had

2503
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:34,160
Speaker 1: to be addressed. He had no other choice. Yeah, they said,

2504
02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's see how it holds up, and if

2505
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't, we're gonna have to make a decision here,

2506
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 1: and they made a decision six month rehab out of

2507
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 1: the Red Knight. He's got to be so happy, though, Steve,

2508
02:11:43,080 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 1: that he is out of that red non contact jersey

2509
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: and did so before minicamp wrapped, so he can kind

2510
02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,080
Speaker 1: of do a few more things on the field to

2511
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 1: kind of what the appetite of the offensive staff, shall

2512
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 1: we say. He's got to feel so much better about

2513
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,680
Speaker 1: himself and his career and what's going to happen from

2514
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: now on now that he can just go out and compete.

2515
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:06,320
Speaker 1: He mentioned also how concerned and how much of a

2516
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: distraction it was knowing that if something happened, or if

2517
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: something was possible to happen, his shoulder might pop out

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Speaker 1: any given play a practice. Um. I think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: too that the bills and it sounds callous, but it

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Speaker 1: happened to me as well in my career. They say listen, um,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna let you play if you want,

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Speaker 1: and if if your knee goes, or if your shoulder goes,

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Speaker 1: or if you're all but whatever it is, whatever the

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Speaker 1: if it goes, we'll fix it. But as long as

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Speaker 1: you want to go. We'll let you go and then

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Speaker 1: we'll get it fixed. And that's your people to a

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Speaker 1: regular to us, let me just put finger quote to

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Speaker 1: a civilian, that sounds medieval. Yeah, uh, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: way of life in pro sports. Yeah, you go as

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Speaker 1: long as you can go and we'll fix it later.

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Speaker 1: But good on him for and that's why I asked

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Speaker 1: him the question staying engaged. Yeah, that's the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: to do when you can't be on the field because

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Speaker 1: it's so frustrating and you can't physically rep stuff, so

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Speaker 1: you really got to mentally turn it on and overperform

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Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, so when you do finally get

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Speaker 1: back on the field, you're not off in the distance

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Speaker 1: so far behind, and your learning curve isn't Mount Everest instead,

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Speaker 1: it's just a rolling hill. You know that you can

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Speaker 1: much more easily traverse because you put the time in

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Speaker 1: when you weren't on the film. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: in a completely different place this training camp, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be fun to see him actually really compete

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Speaker 1: if we ever get a chance to actually watch, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it to the preseason games

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Speaker 1: play because I think he's got something that he can

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Speaker 1: really offer this team. You know, a guy that gets

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Speaker 1: consistent separation is an option for the quarterback. And before

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Speaker 1: we get you know, before we have to sign off here,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting. We have preseason games

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Speaker 1: this year and you can all actually look forward to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: until we see one and then they'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? Tasker's teammate. Tomorrow will hear from

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, who addressed the media, as well as a

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Speaker 1: manual Sanders. So we'll have all of that for you

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday edition of One Bills Live right here.

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Speaker 1: We'll see at noon tomorrow