1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Today we have a big podcast and almost Famous. Yes, 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: we always promise you to try to bring you the 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: most relevant, newsworthy conversations Here at the Almost Famous Podcast. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Give everybody a platform to speak and share their story. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: And today we have a friend of mine, somebody I 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: was on the Bachelorette with, somebody I was a roommate with, 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: somebody that I've gotten to see throughout the years and 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: seen their life change. And now there's a big change 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: in his life. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: He's going to be a dad. And who we're talking 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: about is Sean Booth. He is about to get on 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: the podcast right now and we can't wait to hear 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: about how he's prepping for fatherhood and about his new podcast, 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: which is called In the Booth. 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: You may know Shan Booth from The Bachelorette. You may 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: know him as a This One's funny fitness guy who 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: owns a gym and nast fitness guy, Big fitness guy. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Sean Booth, the host of In the Booth, is officially 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: with us here at the Almost Famous Podcast. Welcome back, Buddy, No, 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: thank you guys, thanks for having me excited to talk 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: with you as always and uh yeah, excited to be here. 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: Sean, what do you want to talk about? First? Your podcast, 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: your baby on the way, anything from your personal life, 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: you know, because we're going to dive into all of it. 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you want to talk about? Akley? 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: I I I want to start with the podcast. 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Ben's that's like, I will not let Ashley start here. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 3: She's gonna get to headline me too early. 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this will take ten minutes. She's gonna be like, 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: all right, when did it happen? How did you? 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: How did you do it? 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Tell us about the evening how much and we'll be done. 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: But Sean, you are the host of Now in the 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: Booth that launched how many weeks ago? 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago? Right? Month? Ten episodes in 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: so a few months now? 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Okay, we've been doing it now for going on seven years, 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: maybe over seven years. The almost famous podcast has been 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: moving and groove and it's been a great experience in 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: my life. Ashley would have to if it has for 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: her or not. What are you most excited about when 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: it comes to kind of entering into podcasts. 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm loving just having meaningful and deep conversations with people. 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: It's something that takes me away from, you know, the 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: gym life, which I put so much time and energy into. 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: It's something where. 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: I can get away for hour, hour and a half, 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: meet with interesting people, hear their background, hear their stories, 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: and most formally, just have some fun. 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: So it's been a great time. 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: It's also challenging, which I like, and something to kind 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 5: of push me into something different. 55 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: Why podcasting, Like, what made you think, like, after all 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: these Bachelor alums have launched podcasts, how you were going 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: to make yours different? 58 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm not going to talk about the bacheler 59 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: every episode. Yeah, so that's. 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: You're missing out there. 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I do realize that I do talk a 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 6: lot about my experience because obviously, you know, it's a 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: big part of my life, a big part of where 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 6: I came from. 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: People, as you know, are always interested. 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: In here in the background and the nitty gritty of 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 5: things with the Bachelor and Bacheorette, So that part is fun. 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: But I also want to have conversations with people from 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: all different walks of life, and we had on like gymnasts, artists, 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: all types of different people. 71 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: And when you're looking for guests, I mean, obviously here 72 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: this is a bachelor focused podcast. It has been for 73 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: seven years. A lot of our guests are coming through 74 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: the show or have been on the show. When you're 75 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: looking at guests, who are you trying to identify as 76 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: somebody that you'd want to come on? 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So first off, it's kind of been friends and 78 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 5: luckily here in Nashville, a lot of people live here, 79 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: so I like having people in studio as much as 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: we can. So right now, it's also tough to not 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: have like on a country artist every episode, and that's 82 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: what we're trying not to do. But like I said 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: on Johnson Olympian, so hearing her background story of how 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: she competed at such a high level at such a 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: young age and how she was able to handle that pressure. 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 4: And then Walker Hayes. 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: How he went from literally working at Costco to overnight 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: going to platinum selling artists and nominated for the Grammy. 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: So it's for me, it's. 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 5: Looking at people and their stories, Like I'm very interested 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 5: in their stories and what they went through, what they 92 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 5: had to overcome to kind of get to where they 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: are now. 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: Has your gym allowed you to make connections with these people? 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: And then make it easy to invite them to come on. 96 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess we've had them in the 97 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: gym before. 98 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 5: But like as you guys know, a lot of events, 99 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 5: charity events and things like that, you run into the 100 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: same types of people. 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: So that's kind of where we started off with reaching out. 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: To them, and now that we're able to grow it 103 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 5: and getting a good amount of people to listen, we 104 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: can start using that and getting more different guests on. 105 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, obviously you've brought up your gym, give us an 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: update there, you know, I've obviously been in for a workout. 107 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: Crushed me. 108 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: Ashley knows that I am a fitness guru myself. 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: He laughs, but he's he's slightly smiling as if it's 110 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: kind of a joke. But the man is training for 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: a triathlon, so he's pretty athletic. And I was with 112 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: him on Bachelor Winter Games where he killed every event 113 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: I did. 114 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: Didn't push ups in a row at one time. It's impressive, Sean, 115 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: how's the gym going, I mean, if that's been a 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: massive project for you and a massive undertaking, Yeah. 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: It's finally getting to the point where we're we can 118 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: expand and right now we're moving locations, and we're in 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 5: a current spot, like you said, the spot you've been in, 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: it's three thousand square feet. We're building out a whole 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 5: new gym that's eleven thousand square feet, going to be 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: tall where we can do large group fitness, small group fitness, 123 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: personal training. That's going to be like the hub, the 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: headquarters for BC. As we start announcing other cities that 125 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 5: we are going into this coming year. So it's a lot, 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 5: a lot all at once. It seems like, I feel 127 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 5: like that's how life goes sometimes. But yeah, we're excited. 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: We put a lot of heart, energy, tears, blood, sweat 129 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: into it for five years and now we're taking this 130 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 5: thing to the next level. 131 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: Sean Jared jokes all the time about how you were 132 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: when you went onto the show a real estate agent 133 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: and then like all of a sudden, they kind of 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: put the label of trainer on you, and then you 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: took it and ran, is this true? 136 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: I had I had my personal training certification, so I 137 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: was doing like one on one training and also doing 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: real estate on the side, and then they and I 139 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 5: also work for insurance company full. 140 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: Time, soerence was my full time job. 141 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: And then I had real estate license and personal training, 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: and then they, I guess, decided that insurance wasn't a 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: sexy enough title to put on there. So I was like, yeah, 144 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: I joke with Jared, like all right, personal trainer, here 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 5: we go. 146 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: But they thought software salesman was really sexy. 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: They really want to. 148 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, obviously, Sean, you still are in real estate. 149 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: We see it on your Instagram. Are you still practicing? 150 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: Are you still selling? 151 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 152 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: I do that on the side. 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: I've got a great business partner for that, who's able 154 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 5: to handle the day to day stuff while I focus 155 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: on the gym stuff and podcasting and all that. So yeah, 156 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 5: I just came back from an open where we're listing 157 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: a house right now. So it's something that I do 158 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: on the side still and I do love it, like 159 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 5: doing my own type of investments and rehabs and all 160 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: that fun stuff. So definitely into that, but the gym 161 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: is definitely the first and foremost. 162 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: Actually, I don't know if you're thinking the same thing 163 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm thinking right now. But my question is, with all 164 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: this that's going on in Sean's life, you know, in 165 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: modern times, I don't know how it all works, but 166 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: I still think I know how babies are made. I 167 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: don't know how he has time for it, Like when 168 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: when does he have time for any romance on top 169 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: of all the jobs. 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question. Better figure that out. 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: Great transition, Ben, Yeah, he's taking cues, He's getting to 172 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: the juicy stuff. He's like, I'm ready. 173 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: We can tell you all of how it's made if 174 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: you want to go into that, Ben, do we want 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: to go through a. 176 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: Well we know that Ben is really good at that. 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: Remember on your season how Ben did the sex talk 178 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: and he told the first grader is how kids did 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: come to be? 180 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: Right? I do remember that. 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 5: That was that's when Ben started getting the nice, lovey, 182 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: cheery music and everybody talking about sex in front of the. 183 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: That's when he started getting the bachelorettits when it turned. 184 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: I remember that. Yeah, so you explain to everybody who's 185 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: listening right now how babies are made. 186 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: I would love to, but I'm not. I'm not there yet. 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: We haven't seemed to figure that one out here in 188 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: my household. We will though, we're practicing. But Sean, you 189 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: know this is a huge announcement. Yeah, in all seriousness, 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: like this case, you know, kind of came out of nowhere. 191 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: It was unexpected. I remember when I saw your teaser 192 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: on the podcast, and I do want to make sure 193 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: that we tell people. For an in depth interview about 194 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: Sean's journey to fatherhood, you can go and listen to 195 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: it on his podcast today. We're really going to sit 196 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: down with Sean and talk about, you know, what's all 197 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: happening in his life and how does he feel about this? 198 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: But let's start here. This was shocking. Was it for us? 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: Was it as shocking to you? 200 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 201 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: Like I said on my podcast, it was a big 202 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 5: surprise for the both of us, me and Dre. It 203 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: wasn't something that we're trying to do, but it turned 204 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 5: out to be a beautiful surprise, and it's something that 205 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 5: I'm ready for, that I'm excited for. And she's twenty 206 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 5: weeks now as of yesterday, So it was shocking. All 207 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 5: the emotions you could possibly think of, and then you know, 208 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: not being able to talk about it for weeks, you know, one, 209 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: because obviously it's a sensitive time where you may miscarriage 210 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 5: and you want to have to wait twelve weeks before 211 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: you can really announce any type of thing like that, 212 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: and then you know, telling our close family and friends 213 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 5: was one thing which was exciting, but then you know, 214 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 5: also being in this world that we come from having 215 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: to eventually kind of announce it out to the world, 216 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: and we could do our own announcement, and so that's 217 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 5: something that we did this past. 218 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: Week, and we both feel so good that it's over with. 219 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: And the crazy thing for me is, I'm like people 220 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: actually care that. 221 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, I wasn't on the It's been eight years 222 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: since we've been on that show. Ben. 223 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: Don't you think that it's crazy that people still really 224 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: care about the things that you do in your life. 225 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 226 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ashley cares. I know that, and I 227 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: come and talk to her every week. But yeah, it 228 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: is wild, but it's a big you know, it's a 229 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: it's a big I think it's a big deal because 230 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: it's surprising, right you weren't you're not married, you hadn't 231 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: came out publicly in a relationship, so there's a shock factor. 232 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: But also I think people care, and then people at 233 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: least in the circles I talked to, are excited for you, 234 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: and including my wife who knows both you and Audrey. Yeah, 235 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: you know, she has worked with her in the past, 236 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: Dre as you for her is a is a photographer, 237 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: and so Jessica knew of her from Nashville. She was 238 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: excited and also shocked, Like can you believe it? Ben, 239 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: was the first thing she said to me. And I 240 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: was like, I didn't see it coming. But I guess 241 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: I don't really know that side of Sean's life at all. 242 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: A second here, Ben, So you guys kind of knew 243 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: Audrey separate from Drey, separate from Jean, and then you 244 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: just found out last week that they're having a baby together. 245 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: Did you have any idea that the two of them 246 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: had any relationship. 247 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: I had no clue. Well, she was at your wedding 248 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 4: with me. 249 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: Well that makes sense, Well Jessica said that, and I didn't, 250 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: but I didn't put two and two together. Yeah, and 251 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: just because I don't know, was she your date or 252 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: she was invited? 253 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you've also met her because she she was 254 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: She came to the studio when we did that episode 255 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: right after I split with Caitlin. She was there as 256 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: a photographer, but we weren't dating. 257 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Then, that's right. Yeah, Okay, So the epic interview, where 258 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: I still think it's one of the best, most real 259 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: interviews we've ever done. She was there as a photographer. 260 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: I actually remember her being there. So she's been around 261 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,479 Speaker 2: in your life then for five years. 262 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: For five years. 263 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: So when did you guys meet and how she actually. 264 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 5: Came to my gym the first week we had opened, 265 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: and so a buddy of mine knew her as photographer. 266 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 4: And we need to get some photos and videos. 267 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: And she came like the third day we were open, 268 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: and then she worked with us ever since. 269 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: And she had been in a relationship. I have been 270 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: in and out of relationships. 271 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we've dated on and off, but we've been 272 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 5: in each other's lives for five years. 273 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: Oh. See when she went as your date to Ben's wedding, 274 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: I must admit there was some speculation as to whether 275 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: or not she was just a friend date or. 276 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: That she was a date date. 277 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys did a good job concealing. Now, why 278 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: why have you been so private about your private life? 279 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: I think that Ben kind of touched on it. I 280 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: think everything was so shocking last week. It's like a 281 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: thirty eight year old having a baby. Why is it 282 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: so shocking? But it was because you have been really 283 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: private about your private life since you're split with Caitlin. 284 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then my podcast I went into all of 285 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 5: this and explain the reasons why I've been private, and. 286 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 4: I think this was two episodes ago, but. 287 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: I basically it said that from my experience with the 288 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: Bachelor of franchise and my experience with having a public 289 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 5: relationship with Caitlin kind of scarred me maybe, and I 290 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 5: admitted maybe too much to the extreme where I wanted 291 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: to keep everything super private, where I felt very. 292 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,239 Speaker 4: Overwhelmed in that relationship. 293 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: I felt like people always just were trying to get 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: details on our relationship, and I feel like and you 295 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: guys could probably agree and put a lot of pressure 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 5: on the relationship. And obviously that's completely different. We were 297 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: a couple on that show, so it's going to be 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: on a massive, massive stage as opposed to this. But 299 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: for me, I always wanted to keep my private life 300 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: as private as possible when I was dating after Caitlin, 301 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: and I think I just had a couple bad experiences 302 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: where I'd go on dates and people would then you know, 303 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 5: leak that to some tabloids and make something of it 304 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: that it wasn't and I just felt kind kind of 305 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: like I had a step back and became super guarded and. 306 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, I don't. 307 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: Really want to put anything out there in the public 308 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: unless it's something that I know it's going to be. 309 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: I got serious, and so that's why I kind of 310 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 5: kept all my private life private. 311 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: The paparazzi dates that you have been seen on, you said, 312 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: the people are making them things that they aren't necessarily, 313 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: So are you saying that like they weren't dates or 314 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: they just order relationships that you didn't want to go 315 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: public with yet I don want to say. 316 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 5: Like girls like girls that I've gone out with that 317 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: have then sold, you know, tabloids, or girls now with 318 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: that have then called paparazzi. 319 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: Like that was all very just weird to me. And yeah, 320 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: it was just a weird situation. 321 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: So and then people just always seeming like, since they 322 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: know me for being on a dating show, they know 323 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: me from being in a relationship with Caitlin, they want 324 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: to know. 325 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: My relationship status. 326 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: And I just kind of I was thrown off by 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: that and kind of didn't want to make that a 328 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 5: main talking point with everybody. 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, I mean for me, you know, 330 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: I after the breakup with Lauren, nobody knew at least 331 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: outside of friendships and in close relationship to me, anybody 332 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: I was dating until Jessica. Yeah, And one of the 333 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: big reasons for that for me, I love the paparazzi. 334 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: I always felt like I was looking good in those pictures. 335 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: I was always welcomed them in. But the biggest problem 336 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: was the I felt like the pressure, like you go 337 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: on one date with somebody, right maybe, and then afterwards 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: it would get released and then you'd have I always 339 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: felt like it was harder to either end that relationship 340 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: or never going to date again, or have to respond 341 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: to it in an interview like, hey, we see you're 342 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: dating this person, like that happened once and now nobody 343 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: wants to date me because they think I'm already in 344 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: a relationship, and then they know how many first dates 345 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: I go on, and that doesn't feel like a great 346 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: like thing for me for everybody know. So mostly it 347 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: was just protecting, like my sanity from trying to always 348 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: explain myself. And I hate breaking up the way it is. Yeah, 349 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to have to really ever break up. 350 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: If you know or talk about one date relationships, I. 351 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: Think you nailed it there perfectly. Then I felt the 352 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: same exact way. 353 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: And I had also said too that I felt like 354 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: kind of trying to protect the people was in a 355 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: relationship with as well, because again, so say you start 356 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: dating somebody, you throw it all over social media. People 357 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: started kind of trying to get stuff out of them, 358 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: asking them questions. It doesn't work, and then what and 359 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 5: then you go to the next one and the next one, 360 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 5: the next one. So I think it was this lot 361 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: of guarding and protecting of her and just maybe my 362 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 5: sanity as well. And I admitted maybe too much, so 363 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 5: where I maybe I should have not have cared so 364 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 5: much because I know people don't care that much, and 365 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 5: I think in my head it was just tough for 366 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 5: me to put out a relationship back out in the public. 367 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: Do you find it to be interesting the way that 368 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: your relationship with Caitlin just seems to be one that 369 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: the fandom still cares about sort of five years removed. 370 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. 371 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 5: It's yeah, I mean it's wild because and then I 372 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 5: asked people, I'm like, who is your ex five years ago? 373 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: You know, like if you think anybody who wasn't on 374 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: a TV show, it's like, you know, everybody moves on 375 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 5: with their lives and start dating other people. But again, 376 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 5: I understand that's how people know us and that's where 377 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: we come from. 378 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: And I think. 379 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 5: People really enjoyed that relationship, and I think people still 380 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 5: trying to make connections one way or another. I think 381 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 5: that's probably something I have to deal. 382 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: With for a while. 383 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: I think there's probably a lot of people out there 384 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: that would love to see the reconciliation, if too, to 385 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: end up with the people that you're publicly with right now. 386 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it also the way it ended too, right, 387 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: It was just like boom, done. 388 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: And then done. 389 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was. Also, it wasn't a clean breakup, 390 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: you know, there was some he shit, he said, she 391 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: said stuff. And I just think that mostly it speaks 392 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: to the fact that, like your seat, that season was 393 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: it was such a love story as somebody who's like 394 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 3: obviously a friend but also a little bit separate was. 395 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: I was a fan and a friend while watching that season. 396 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: There was just so much passion, Like you guys, it 397 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: was a great romance to Sean and Kaitlyn. 398 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: It was. It was. 399 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: And I had your old ball and chain Ben on 400 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: the podcast yesterday. 401 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh nice, didn't know. 402 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: And I was talking about too Mike. 403 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: It's just a it's a crazy, crazy world because everybody's 404 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: like who's friends with who, who's the am I you 405 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: can't really explain it, right, It's like Ben's friends with 406 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 5: Kaitlin and her fiance and it's like and I run 407 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 5: to Laurene here in Nashville. 408 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, you think he was talking about. 409 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: I was ball in Chane. Isn't that supposed to be 410 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: like your significant other? 411 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 6: Old? 412 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 413 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd say we were pretty significant for a 414 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: period of time. 415 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: I thought I thought that was referring to a current 416 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: like the old wife, the old lady. 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: But to that point was I was talking, and I 418 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: was like, I think that our seasons were some of 419 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 5: the wildest crazy seasons there were. And I think that 420 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 5: the storylines of those two seasons in particular were just 421 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: unlike any other. And I think that's why they got 422 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 5: so much attention. 423 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: They did get a lot of attention, and I think 424 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: there was I think there was a genuinist him too, 425 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: from all sides, like everybody involved. Like I talked to 426 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: Ashley about this in our podcast a lot. When I 427 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: was on The Bachelorette, I didn't really feel especially as 428 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: we got going there was anybody there who wasn't at 429 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: least there to try to figure out like something either 430 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: it was a relationship with Caitlin, or it was maybe 431 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: figuring out who they were and what they were looking for. 432 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: But there was no never this pursuit of fame or 433 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: how can I be the loudest voice or how can 434 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: I make the most drama. It was. It was a 435 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: very much of a you felt like everybody at least 436 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: there was representing themselves well. And on the season of 437 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: The Bachelor that was a part of the cast felt 438 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: the same way. There wasn't you know, the people out 439 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: there that just look like they were trying to get 440 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: Instagram following. And one of those reasons is because Instagram 441 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: didn't really exist, and so it wasn't a thing that 442 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: we were pursuing. We were mostly trying to, you know, 443 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: make this world make sense in some level. And I 444 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: like what you're saying, Sean, because it is in Bachelor Nation. 445 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: It is a weird thing where like, yes, you know 446 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: that Ashley's a friend with friends with Kaitlin, Right, I've 447 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: been around Jason many times. I'm friends with Jason. I 448 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: haven't talked to Caylin in years, but I would say 449 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: if I saw her, I'd love to see Kayln, Like 450 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: it would be great to see her. I'd enjoy seeing her. 451 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: And you know, with Lauren, like for years of my life, 452 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: And this is leading to a question I have for you. 453 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: For years of my life, I really didn't want to 454 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: see her now because I hated her, not because I 455 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: disliked her. It was just felt weird and awkward, and 456 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know what I would say, and I didn't 457 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: really know what good could come from running into her again, 458 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: Like it was just not something I was looking forward 459 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: to until really this year, which is how many years later, 460 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: where I played golf with her husband in a golf 461 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: tournament and he was awesome. He was great, We had 462 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 2: a blast, her dad was there. I have nothing but 463 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: like great memories. They were two people I hung out 464 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: with the most, really at that tournament. And then I said, 465 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: I could see Lauren because it's not weird anymore. I mean, 466 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: it'd still be, but I could like check in our life. 467 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: And so my question for you, and I've never understood 468 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: this about you. You have a massive public breakup with Kaitlin. 469 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about it, everybody wants to know more, but 470 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: you live miles away from each other, like you live 471 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: in the same city, and you still go about your 472 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: day without that like looking over your shoulder. I mean, 473 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: I would be in airports sometimes going through like La 474 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: or Portland, be like, I feel like I'm gonna run 475 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: into her, I feel like and I don't want to. 476 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: So how in the world did you stay in the 477 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: same city as Caitlin and function Nor? 478 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy to think about how in the five 479 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 5: years six since we've broken up, I've seen her physically 480 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: once at the same venue. And something else I talked 481 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: about my podcast is that I've run into Jason now 482 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 5: I feel like four times in the past year, and 483 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 5: it's just like all of a sudden, I see him everywhere. 484 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 5: But I've only seen Caitland one time. And I don't 485 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 5: know if it's because she's probably traveling much more than 486 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 5: I am. I don't know how much time she spends 487 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 5: here in the city. Nashville is a small as you know, 488 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 5: everybody knows everybody. It's not like La where you can 489 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 5: go out one night and you have hundreds and hundreds 490 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 5: of different options. Everybody kind of ends up in the 491 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: same places. So yeah, it's it's strange that I haven't 492 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 5: really seen her. 493 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 3: How'd that running go? Did you guys speak? 494 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: No, we didn't speak. We had a comedy show and. 495 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: I was actually somebody was sitting next to me and 496 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: somebody goes, oh my god, Caitlin Bristow's here. And then 497 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, like like your heart sinks. Yeah, 498 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: like I haven't seen her. 499 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, where is she? 500 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: And then I didn't see her in there wasn't I 501 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 5: wasn't trying to avoid her at all. And then I 502 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: was walking out the back door and she was like 503 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: in the room with the comedian, like behind the stage whatever. 504 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: So I just looked over I saw her and just 505 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 5: you know, kept walking and just went about my night. 506 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: I have so many more questions about obviously this run in, 507 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: about your what exactly you are with Audrey, with Dre. 508 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: I do want to close this and say to Dre, 509 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: who might may listen to this, It's not like I 510 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 2: don't remember you for my wedding. There's five hundred people there. 511 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. 512 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: There was a lot of people there at your wedding. Yeah. 513 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 5: I felt bad for you guys because you're just getting 514 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: hounded the whole time. I having to walk around and 515 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 5: that pressure of having to talk to everybody. It's like 516 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 5: you can only talk to you for a few minutes 517 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: because it's just everyone wants to see the new couple. 518 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: That's got to be tough. It was tough. 519 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: I'm glad we did the way we did it. I 520 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: never want to do it again, which is is good 521 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: because I don't plan on it, and I know Ashley 522 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: has been anxiously awaiting. I take a step back and 523 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: no anxiously awaiting, diving in to some really deep, good 524 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: questions about the future of Sean Booth. This has been 525 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: part one of the Interview with Sean Booth. Make sure 526 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: you tune into part two, which will be out very 527 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: very soon on the same thread that you listen to this. 528 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: You can listen to this wherever you listen to podcasts. Yes, 529 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: this is Almost Famous podcast and until part two. 530 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: I've been been, I've been Ashley. See you guys. 531 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on 532 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.