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Speaker 2: It's spooky. I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, says hey boo, it's me Roz. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can tell, but I am

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Speaker 2: currently possessed by allergies. So I apologize for the way

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Speaker 2: I sound, but don't worry. For the rest of the episode.

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Speaker 2: Once we get into the main conversation, I will not

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Speaker 2: sound so stuffed up. But oh my god, there's so

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Speaker 2: much going on right now.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard, but ye girl, Roz

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Speaker 2: is going to be doing a paranormal TV show. Shoh, well,

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Speaker 2: actually I already did it. I already shot it. Not

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Speaker 2: when the show went off air. That was not then.

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Speaker 2: It was before. At the beginning of the year, I

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Speaker 2: left for a couple of months and I shot the

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Speaker 2: first ever all queer team of paranormal investigators. Actually it's

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Speaker 2: funny because like having my show and talking so much

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Speaker 2: about the paranormal and pop culture and queerness, this project

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Speaker 2: has been I believe mentioned on this podcast before. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of listeners have sent me articles

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Speaker 2: in the past about this project. It was first mentioned

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe close to two years ago. This

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Speaker 2: is the Kristen Stewart produced ghost hunting show with Scout Productions,

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Speaker 2: who are the people that created Queer Eye among many

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Speaker 2: fabulous TV shows. And the show is going to be

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Speaker 2: on Hulu October eighteenth, and it is called Living for

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Speaker 2: the Dead. And I can't believe I can finally say this.

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Speaker 2: The cat is out of the bag. I have kept

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Speaker 2: this a secret and I've done a damn good job

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Speaker 2: at it, but now I can talk about it because

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Speaker 2: and also I will not stop talking about it for

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Speaker 2: the next upcoming episodes. You know. Typically nowadays, I don't

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Speaker 2: have as many paranormal investigators or psychics on the show,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's been fun just having on you know,

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Speaker 2: So what I'm going to do for next month is

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Speaker 2: even more, you know, even close. And I'll also get

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Speaker 2: to share my friends with you, guys. I love these people.

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Speaker 2: They're so cool and they're all queer and it's so cool.

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Speaker 2: It's so cool. Oh my god, we went to so

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Speaker 2: don't know if you know this or not, but I

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Speaker 2: from when they are released. So my social media, like

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Speaker 2: at Roz Hernandez on Instagram, is probably the best place

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Speaker 2: As I'm looking ahead at my calendar, I'm also going

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Speaker 1: Hello, we're so happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: I was really tempted to do my y'a. I'll just

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Bringing out my demon voice.

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Speaker 1: Should we all take a turn?

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Speaker 1: I like that take because normally when we hear about

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Speaker 1: We also started this podcast six years ago being like,

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Speaker 1: many more theories as to what spirits could be that

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Speaker 1: We have fewer answers than when we started because we're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: Instead of hormone monstrouses and stuff like that, they have

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Speaker 3: paranormal things happened in that house, but they were less

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Sabrina believes in demons I.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me just play skeptic.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: So he was talking about one night right, mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: But you don't remember seeing him in your dream, right? No?

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Speaker 2: Could it have been two different occurrences?

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Speaker 1: It could have been a premonition. Maybe, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Could have been a premonition. It could have been this

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Speaker 3: else like that happened, again, this dark entity continue to

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Speaker 2: Were you a little bit jealous that I didn't want you?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I've never thought of that. We

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: And it's like I'm finally telling my story. No, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough situation if you do have jealousy,

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Speaker 2: because you're like I want to be picked, but like

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Speaker 1: No, the jealousy will come if you end up being

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Speaker 1: abducted by aliens. Ras that is true, that's Sabrina's number

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Speaker 1: one goal. I don't understand it really, with everything that's

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Speaker 3: Now, I think I want that too bad, and they

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Speaker 2: You're desperate, Yeah, I I want to be a jealous

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Speaker 3: Let's go together.

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Speaker 2: I'm honestly down. You know what I've been thinking about lately.

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Speaker 2: And I apologize that this is inappropriate because we just met.

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Speaker 2: But how come in the nineties aliens were so into

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of probing.

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Speaker 2: I feel like all I ever heard about was them

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Speaker 2: What are they into now?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I'd also be curious to go and look at all

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Speaker 3: Now, what if the aliens have just been so misunderstood

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what if they're really saving us one but at

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Speaker 2: Could be I don't know. I'm willing to take my chances.

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Speaker 2: Take me up there, let's go. Yeah, I'm still thinking

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Speaker 3: She's okay now, I mean growing up And this is

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Speaker 2: Little lingering energy. Well, and that's the thing, if one

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Speaker 2: simple blessing got rid of them, they weren't like that

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Speaker 3: Not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, although to pitch something for her. Perhaps that energy

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Speaker 1: My dad, Okay, yeah, there's something living in him. He's

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Speaker 2: So do you think this whole time there's been a

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Speaker 3: So my dad has been married three times that I

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Speaker 2: Does that make you jealous? No, Roz, Does it make

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with my body?

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe you live in harmony with your past lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all your past lives lived to give you this life. Now.

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Speaker 2: I guess I just want a demon to look at

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Speaker 3: No, I promise Roz, if I die anytime soon or

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Speaker 3: I will do what we said in the beginning of

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Speaker 3: this episode, where I will pretend to be a demon

439
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: and I will try to possess you.

440
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's one of the seatest things anyone's ever

441
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: said to me.

442
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: I know we just met, but I really mean it.

443
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: Tell me what you can about the Conjuring House, and

444
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: you all going to the Conjuring House. Oh okay, okay, So.

445
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: We're doing a live tour. We're going to thirty two

446
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: different cities. But we grounded the whole tour, or like,

447
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: based the whole tour on the Conjuring House because it's

448
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: kind of this place that's obviously super infamous now that

449
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: the movies have existed, and us being paranormal enthusiasts, had

450
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: heard the story of what happened in the Conjuring House before.

451
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: So Sabrina and I decided, in our delusion that it

452
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: would be appropriate for the first time ever ghost hunting

453
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: to do an overnight at the Conjuring House, which is

454
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: arguably one of the scariest and most haunted paranormal homes.

455
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: We just went full in, full in.

456
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: But we tried to treat it as more than just

457
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: a ghost hunt and sort of do like a full investigation,

458
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: just as you would if you're investigating and you look

459
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: for different sources. So we interviewed various people who'd lived

460
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: in the home, who knew about the home. We interviewed historians,

461
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: and we just tried to collect a lot of information.

462
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Did she talk about Andrew?

463
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: We're trying.

464
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: She did not respond to our Facebook messages, which apparently

465
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: is the only way you can reach her.

466
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I can text her. I love her, please. He's

467
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: one of my favorite people ever. She's so fun and

468
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: so funny, and anyone listening that doesn't know who we're

469
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: talking about. Andrea Paron. She's been on this podcast a

470
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: couple of times. She's the oldest daughter of the family.

471
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: Like the movie The Conjuring is based on, and she's

472
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 2: got store reads for days.

473
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

474
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: She told me a story that her mom in that

475
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: house bit into an orange and blood started gushing out

476
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: of it.

477
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

478
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, horrifying.

479
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: It is just like one of the many, many, many

480
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: things that has happened in that house. They lived in

481
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: it for like a long time.

482
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she like loves it, like she loves going back

484
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: to it, and it's like her happy plays.

485
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: I mean, is a beautiful home. And we were both

486
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: expecting to go into it and like immediately have really

487
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: really bad vibes and feelings from it, especially just from

488
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: the reputation it has publicly. But it was very peaceful.

489
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: It actually was. We felt very warm, yeah, and invited,

490
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: which is the opposite of what a lot of people

491
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: say in experience. And even when we were there, they

492
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: were saying that the people who were investigating the night

493
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: before us were experiencing a lot of contact and where

494
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: it was really scary, and they stayed up until like

495
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: eight am, kind of communicating with all these entities that

496
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: were disturbed in the house.

497
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: I feel like that Lindsay Lohan song about like I'm

498
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: sick of rumors starting, Like I feel like that's the

499
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: conjuring house. Yeah, why won't they just let me live?

500
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: Right? I know, based on what we heard from the

501
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: people who currently own the house and from what we've

502
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 3: read with Andrea's books, like there's a belief maybe aliens

503
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: are involved, but regardless, like the way the lay lines

504
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 3: are crossing on that property, it is a portal, like

505
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: a lot of things can come and go in that home.

506
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: So I almost feel like if you go into the

507
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: house with a Zach Began's attitude like come at me, demon,

508
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna get that totally right. But if you come

509
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: into it with a I really want to understand this home,

510
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: I want to experience it and just learn about it,

511
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: You're going to have a different experience.

512
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

513
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of these public places that

514
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: are like in the ghost hunting tourism game, they have

515
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people going in there with those kinds

516
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: of vibes. They're going for their content or on YouTube

517
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they are like being real shitty and

518
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: shady and whatever with the.

519
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: Ghosts aggressive aggressive.

520
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: And I feel like that can give a place a

521
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: reputation and like, I'm sure the ghosts were probably happy

522
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: to see you guys and be like Oh my god,

523
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: like this vibe is so nice.

524
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.

525
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great time.

526
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: We did experience some hauntings so well. There. So the

527
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: show we're putting together is a combination of our experiences,

528
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: like videos, photos, interviews with a bunch of people. We

529
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: interviewed Chad and Carrie Hayes, who wrote the movie and

530
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: had a lot of experiences on set and also in

531
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: the process of writing it, and they spent a significant

532
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: amount of time with Lorraine Warren too, and she's you know,

533
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: she's passed away now, but she had some incredible stories.

534
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Tell me about Loraine Warren. What are your thoughts on

535
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Loraine Warren.

536
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: I think it is a very complicated conversation. They led

537
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: in too, obviously. I think there is there's a lot

538
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: to be debated about their involvement in a lot of

539
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: paranormal cases. They came at it with a very religious perspective,

540
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: which was their own personal preference, and if someone else

541
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: is not religious, I think they came into the parent

542
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: home very Jesus God, and that was not how the

543
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: parents operated. And so it just is almost like a

544
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: using a religion or using some type of healing or

545
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: blessing that doesn't fit with everyone is not going to

546
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I feel like they were putting

547
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: their personal beliefs onto a lot of people totally.

548
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: And they did a lot of good in the paranormal

549
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: world and helped a lot of people. And obviously they

550
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: were huge collectors of haunted artifacts and demons and entities

551
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: and just helped people feel peace within their homes. But

552
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: I think for just as many examples as we have

553
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: of them doing all the good and helping families, there

554
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: are probably quite a few stories of what they did

555
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: to exacerbate some of the paranormal activity within the home. Yes,

556
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: the way that the Conjuring movie portrays it, I think

557
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: is a bit different than what we've read from Andrea's books, right,

558
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: And it would suggest that what they did was kind

559
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: of egging on and not the way to go to

560
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: rid the Conjuring House of whatever was happening.

561
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, hey, it's still whatever's there is still there,

562
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: I guess, which is good. I think it's cool that

563
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: it's a place that you can actually go to and

564
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: rent out and have the rent of and do whatever.

565
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: Have you ever gone to a haunted place?

566
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh honey? Oh yeah, I've done a lot.

567
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: What's your favorite?

568
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: This is a complicated question to answer. There's been a

569
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: lot of places that I have been in recent times

570
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: that I haven't shared on the podcast yet, so I

571
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: feel like I probably shouldn't get into those at the moment.

572
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to like skepticism and stuff,

573
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: my thing is like guilty until proven innocent, where I'm like,

574
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: it's not paranormal until there's just no explanation whatsoever. Then

575
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: it's paranormal at least when it's stuff that I'm there for.

576
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: I can't really speak much on when I'm not there. Yeah,

577
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: but when I'm there, I'm like, Okay, could it have

578
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: been this? Could it have been that? But also at

579
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: the same time, like I don't know everything. I don't

580
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: know how certain pipes and buildings work and shit like

581
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that. So I'm just kind of like, yep,

582
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: seem like a ghost I guess according to according to

583
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: what I've deducted here. But yeah, I don't like sleeping

584
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: at places that are haunted.

585
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

586
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: I've been to places before where I'm like, there's no

587
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: ghosts here. We've tried everything, there's no ghosts and then

588
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, time to go to bed, and I'm like,

589
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: what if there are What.

590
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: If they hurt me?

591
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: It's like the second you close your eyes that they've

592
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 3: been waiting.

593
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: What have they been lurking? Yeah?

594
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: What if they heard me talking?

595
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: Shit?

596
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to The Queen Mary is back open

597
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: and I've done that before, and I feel like I

598
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: am ready to go back.

599
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: I want to go so badly.

600
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: Have you guys never been at all?

601
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I've been for like the eight PM ghost tours.

602
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: I've only been as like a hotel guest. I've never

603
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: done the tour or anything. But I don't know those

604
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: ghosts are from my experience, they had the night off

605
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: the last time I went there. They were exhausted from

606
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: all these years of being ghosts. They didn't have anything

607
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: for me.

608
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: I mean in a place like that, I feel like

609
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: there's so much expectations from the ghosts, like they're expected

610
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: to be on all the time, because people go and

611
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: they're like, where are you? I came to see you? Right,

612
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: So it must be exhausting.

613
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh, it has to be like it feels like a

614
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: child star or something where it's like perform for everyone

615
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: get out there, like I don't want.

616
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: To dance monkey dance exactly.

617
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not fair.

618
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

619
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: Well, I would suggest to you if you've never been

620
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: to Charleston, South Carolina, or to the old Charleston.

621
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 2: Jail, No I haven't.

622
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I've grown up in haunted homes

623
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: my entire life. Pretty much every place I've ever lived

624
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: in has had a ton of paranormal activity.

625
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: Krinn. You said that you don't like to sleep in

626
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: haunted places, and I'm like, you've literally your whole entire

627
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: life slept in home.

628
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.

629
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: Don't sleep great. I'm never well rested.

630
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: Why do you not think that you're haunted? Why is

631
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: it the houses and not you?

632
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: No, it's her, It probably is me, it's your family.

633
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: My whole family has experienced stuff our whole lives. So

634
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: I think we thought. I think my parents thought, oh,

635
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's just bad luck, like, oh, we lived in

636
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: haunted apartments, and then we had a haunted house, and

637
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: maybe it's just New Hampshire or whatever. And then when

638
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: we moved to Vermont and they were on like apartment

639
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: number five or six, they were like, huh, still experiencing things.

640
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it is us, So yeah, we've been very haunted.

641
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: But just to finish my thought about the old Charleston Jail,

642
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: I did a tour and I think it was like

643
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: a ninety minute tour and I've never experienced so much

644
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: paranormal activity within ninety minutes. It's like an abandoned jail

645
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: that housed a ton of people who were mentally ill,

646
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: and people who were falsely accused and Livinia Fisher who

647
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: may or may not have I'm a serial killer, we

648
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: don't know. But anyway, there's so much activity you'd hear

649
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: like the keys going. And I was the only one

650
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: within the tour group of like twelve people that wasn't

651
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: looking down this one hallway at this one particular time

652
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: when everyone else saw a shadow figure kind of like

653
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: peeking out from the door a few times. Everyone was

654
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: talking about it and I was like what, I turned

655
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: around and it was too late. They did it like

656
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: three or four times tho when I missed it.

657
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh damn.

658
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: I think they're always active.

659
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like those tours usually is not when

660
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: things happen for me. I love a good ghost tour, though,

661
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: I'll go on any ghost tour. They're so fun super fun.

662
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: But I feel like I've never had anything happen on one. Yeah,

663
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: so that's kind of cool that these ghosts are like

664
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: an audience. Let's perform. What do you guys think of

665
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: haunted dolls?

666
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: Hey, ye, hate hate hate. Although we were informed by

667
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: a listener of our podcast who owns a few haunted

668
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: dolls that they enjoy listening to our podcast and sometimes

669
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: when she comes home, she'll find our podcast playing in

670
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: the room that the dolls are.

671
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 4: Ay, the dolls are listening to the body.

672
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: The dolls are listening. So I guess not all of

673
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: them are possessed by demons with nefarious intent. Perhaps it's

674
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: just some that are trying to get with the times

675
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: and they're like, what's a podcast?

676
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Or I wonder if they're like, we don't do that,

677
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: Like they're just like listening, Like that is not true.

678
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: This is a rumor, goes, don't do that.

679
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: What do you think of them?

680
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: Ros?

681
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I think anything's possible, truly exactly.

682
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: But what I'm obsessed with is the world of eBay.

683
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Haunted dolls.

684
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: Yes, so fun to look at.

685
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: We have a segment here that I like to call

686
00:35:53,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: the dolls are living. I have a doll for you

687
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: guys today. Oh that I want to take a look at.

688
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: Okay, we're ready.

689
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Let's see it. Jiha, can you show us this doll?

690
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: I would like you guys to meet Monica.

691
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: The glamorous Monica.

692
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: Oh she's pretty, she's sickening. She's got gorgeous, piercing blue eyes.

693
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: And I don't know what kind of fur.

694
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: It looks like a dalmatian. Honestly, I was.

695
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: Gonna say, yeah, it's sort of a Dalmatian or some

696
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: kind of snow leopard. Yeah, with a matching hat. Huge buttons,

697
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: big old Steve Harvey buttons.

698
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: I can't look away from her eyes. I know she's mesmerizing.

699
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: She's truly gorgeous.

700
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: Her hair, that's a blowout I've never been able to attain.

701
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: I know, and I'm sure she just I mean, she's

702
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: still managed to put a hat over it. And she

703
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I've got a blow out under here.

704
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: But it's fine.

705
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: What's her story. I'm more concerned about the like open

706
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: mouth mask on the wall behind her.

707
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Monica is currently going for thirty eight dollars

708
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: on eBay. Okay, kind of a discount. Diva thirty eight

709
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: dollars zero bids. But here's what it says about her.

710
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: It says Monica is very selfish and a snotty spirit.

711
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: I use that word strongly for a reason. Monica was

712
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 2: very privileged her whole life. She never had to work

713
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: for anything and never would Everything I have tried to

714
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 2: talk to her about she makes harsh remarks like she's

715
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: too good for any of it. Monica loves to shop

716
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: and buy the best of designer labels. As you can see,

717
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: she picked a doll with a fur coat. I'm surprised

718
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: it was good enough for her. Monica misses her clothes

719
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: and make up a lot. She talks about them often.

720
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: Monica wants a like minded person to adopt her, but

721
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: I would like to see someone who gets her down

722
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: a few levels to see what she really missed out on.

723
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: She needs work, okay, like she needs some help.

724
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she needs a therapist.

725
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: She doesn't talk about her death. She claims it didn't happen.

726
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Obviously it did. I love this, Obviously it did, or

727
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: she wouldn't be in my home. She communicates through Ouiji boards, pendulums,

728
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: necrophonic app, white noise apps, and she moves things around.

729
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: If you feel drawn to Monica or that you have

730
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: a connection with her in some way, please place a

731
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: bid or use the buy now option to adopt her.

732
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Please have you been tempted to purchase her yet?

733
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: No?

734
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

735
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: My first red flag is well, I guess my first

736
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: question would be why is this user selling her?

737
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: That's often my question, see this one is it's like, oh,

738
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: she's just she's so snotty. I have to get her

739
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: out of my life, Like she doesn't even know that

740
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: she is a dead, living human being that's inside of

741
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: this doll. Like she's crazy. She's crazy. She's crazy right.

742
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: Well, and also if you don't want to communicate with her,

743
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: don't use your app and your Ouiji board. And it

744
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: seems like you could probably just ignore her.

745
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she just wants to enjoy her life as this doll. Yeah,

746
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: she misses the fact that she used to shop and stuff,

747
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: take her shopping.

748
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: I've always wanted a stylist. Is this my opportunity to

749
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: have a ghost stylist?

750
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: She probably would love that. But she is snotty. You know,

751
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: she might she might be a little bit mean. She

752
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: might be reading you like, oh, you're gonna wear that.

753
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Like, I come home and my clothes are burnt.

754
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: You what if the next time we see you you

755
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: just have a giant fur hat on.

756
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: You start wearing blue contacts, then we really know.

757
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: I did do that in high school.

758
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: You did blue contacts.

759
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: Blue contacts.

760
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeh oh supreme, Oh my god. I think colored contacts

761
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: have gotten better. But for the longes time, there was

762
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: so many that like, if you looked up close, it

763
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: looked like it was like printed like pixely almost, And

764
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 2: that is like uncanny valleys stuff like you can't see

765
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: people's emotions.

766
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

767
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: And the eyes are the windows to the soul, and

768
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like kind of creepy.

769
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: Totally.

770
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do another thing here. Okay, can I play

771
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: you some EVPs?

772
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: Please please?

773
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev pase. Okay. What I

774
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: do is I go to TikTok, I go to YouTube,

775
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: I go wherever EVPs are found. I've got two of

776
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: them for you today, and I'm going to play them

777
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: for you. Okay, I want you to tell me what

778
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: you think you hear, and then I'll tell you the

779
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: correct answer. I'll give you four options, the correct answer

780
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: being what the ghost hunter believes it is saying.

781
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: Okay, this one.

782
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: Is from TikTok. It's from ghost Hunter Mark and it

783
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: was recorded at the Englefield Green Social Hall, which is

784
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: in the UK. What on earth is this ghost saying?

785
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

786
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: Did you hear it again?

787
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: I heard high babe.

788
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: To me, it's very like a British accent, Hi babe.

789
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminds me of the narwhale from Elf.

790
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Bye Body, Bye Body. It does hi babe totally. It

791
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: definitely has that deep voice. Yeah, I could hear high babe.

792
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Or it's like someone who really loves hockey and he's.

793
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Like hockey hockey.

794
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: It does sound way more like hi babe. It does well.

795
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: Ghost Hunter Mark did not think it was hockey or

796
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: high babe. So which one of these answers was? Is

797
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: it a slimey b confined me? Is it C behind

798
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: me or D? I'm vibing I want.

799
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: It to be D. Yeah me too. Okay hear it again?

800
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah behind me would be my guess.

801
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he believes it is confined me.

802
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: We need to send him the high babe theory and

803
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: then perhaps he'll hear.

804
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: That high bube when there's such short little segments like that, Yeah,

805
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: how do you ever actually know what they're saying?

806
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: I know nobody really does. Okay. This one is also

807
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: from TikTok from at Tulsa Paranormal. It was at an

808
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: abandoned house in northern Tulsa, Oklahoma.

809
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: What is it saying?

810
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Level piste?

811
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: Let us teach you, level or let us eat you.

812
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: I'll have the peach gum level.

813
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: There's definitely a p like a pee at some point.

814
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Level pist.

815
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: I like both of those options actually.

816
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Or I'll have the pea coat. Maybe it was Monca

817
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: coming through.

818
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: Oh it's very Monica level pie.

819
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a chut in the middle.

820
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: Yea a put and then a chut, a peach chut.

821
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: I like peach. Okay. Tilsa Paranormal did not think it

822
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: was any of those. Is it A let's get pizza?

823
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: Is it B? Love a picture? Is it C let

824
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: her be still? Or D it's leather pizza? Like they're

825
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: like it's leather piza, Like, oh, call peta, the person's

826
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: wearing leather. Okay, let me play it again.

827
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

828
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: Level? What was option B?

829
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: I'd love a picture?

830
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: None of these feel right?

831
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't feel right, I know, what do you hear?

832
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: I hear it's leather pizza or maybe let's get pizza.

833
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: I like pizza, idea.

834
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have the Peach Dawn down. I feel like

835
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: there's a name at the end.

836
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I want I want a piece? Yeah maybe? Oh yeah,

837
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: they believe that it is ce let her be still.

838
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me Okay, let's let's try to

839
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: tune in. Let's see if we can hear let her

840
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: be still.

841
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: I still don't hear it.

842
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm almost hearing now, like let her peace John.

843
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe something to do with peace, like let us

844
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: be peaceful John or down or Peach. We might not

845
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: know what it's saying. But if you're just recording and

846
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: you heard that speaking like, that's something that's weird.

847
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: Oh that's creepy. Yeah those are fun. I like doing that.

848
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: I know.

849
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Well.

850
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm so happy I got to meet you guys

851
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: and us too. Now I'm gonna be on your podcast too. Yes,

852
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: So tell people everything you want them to know and

853
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: where they can find you and all that stuff.

854
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: Take it away, Krin.

855
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: You can find us wherever you listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify,

856
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: you can find us at Two Girls, One Ghost. We

857
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: also have pretty much all the social media's also underneath

858
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Speaker 1: the same username, and we are going on tour starting

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Speaker 1: September seventh in Chicago. We're going to thirty two different cities,

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861
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Speaker 1: regarding the Conjuring story, you can head to a theater

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Speaker 1: and check it.

864
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Speaker 3: Out amazing, and then we'll have you on our show

865
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Speaker 3: and hear all about your personal experiences.

866
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: Eoh okay, well, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.

867
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: You so much to Karn and Sabrina. Go listen to

868
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Speaker 2: their podcast, Two Girls, One Ghost. Who. All right, So

869
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Speaker 2: a reminder, starting next week, I'm going to introduce you

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Speaker 2: to my friends that I will be starring in the

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Speaker 2: real spooky. It's a very special October for me this year,

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Speaker 2: and I hope it is for all of you, because,

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Speaker 2: first of all, getting to do this TV show is

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Speaker 2: truly a celebration of all of you, all of you

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Speaker 2: supporting me, all of you being here, especially the ones

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Speaker 2: that I've been here since day one with this kooky,

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Speaker 2: with me. We've got some stories. She's got some stories,

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Speaker 2: so tune in for that. And oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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Speaker 2: haunt me, hey by. This has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

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Speaker 2: So email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 2: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 2: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's raz Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 2: is the alarming Alex Chief. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 2: sound designed by the eery Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Krighten. My theme music is by

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Speaker 2: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 2: by the chilling Karen Kilgarreth, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark,

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Speaker 2: and the frightening Danielle Kramer.