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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: FNA, back with you once again on Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're here. It's good to be back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hear in Sherman Oaks, but across the country with

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Speaker 4: you guys, and we do have a very good show

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Speaker 4: worthy of a national platform.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Coming up in the second hour of the show, we

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Speaker 3: will talk to Petros Papadekas, college football analyst for Fox

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Speaker 3: and FS one close personal friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean he knows us pretty well, but

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Speaker 2: trying to bite a real show exactly and he knows

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Speaker 2: what we're up to.

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Speaker 4: If you guys don't know, I was on Tim Conway

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Speaker 4: and I know it's a local news show here in

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Speaker 4: southern California earlier KF I am six forty.

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Speaker 3: But they're the son of former famous comedian Tim Conway Senior.

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Speaker 2: We're talking of Tim Conway junior.

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Speaker 4: And he was great, by the way, in Liquors Pizza,

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Speaker 4: the Last pt Anderson movie.

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Speaker 2: He was awesome.

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Speaker 4: But uh, he brought me on earlier and he was

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Speaker 4: kind of getting the gist of the show. He's familiar

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Speaker 4: with us, but I was given show. Huh, how's it

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Speaker 4: go nignbe. He's a legend here in southern California. Of

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Speaker 4: course in kf I am six forty is your news

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Speaker 4: leader more stimulating talk radios.

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Speaker 2: I think how they would put it, at least back

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Speaker 2: in the early two thousands.

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Speaker 4: But I told him, oh, we're you know, Petro's money.

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Speaker 4: They're called pms well Ken figures, Adam Asland.

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Speaker 2: We are called FNA, FNA Cotton FA And.

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Speaker 4: I know we're new here on Fox Sports Radio, but

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Speaker 4: FNA on FSR, it just rolls off the tongue nicely.

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Speaker 2: I think, so easily, right. I hope you guys are

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Speaker 2: enjoying it. Yeah, Souse, we ain't going nowhere with Leosay

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Speaker 2: and Wolfe wall Street.

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Speaker 3: Bring it back our weekly staples here during football season

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Speaker 3: we have two on too often the show. We have

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Speaker 3: our NFL six pack that will happen at the top

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Speaker 3: of next hour as well.

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Speaker 4: One of our great center pieces and features here on

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Speaker 4: the FNA show.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot to get into and not a

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Speaker 3: lot of time, Adam, So maybe let's just get things

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Speaker 3: started here with first off.

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Speaker 2: Time. That's wrong, so let's starting in Green Bay. Go

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Speaker 2: back to Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: If anyone had any doubts as to whether or not

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Speaker 3: the Packers working tender and look, some people kind of

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Speaker 3: questioned it coming into the season before they even made

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Speaker 3: the trade for Marca Parsons. Yeah, they're good, but that's

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Speaker 3: a tough division that they're in. Don't know if Jordan

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Speaker 3: Love is kind of ready to make that next step.

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Speaker 3: And I realized it's only two games in, but so

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Speaker 3: far they look like they could be the team to

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Speaker 3: beat in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a guy around here somewhere that picked

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Speaker 4: them to win the Super Bowl this season after they

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Speaker 4: got Michael Parsons. Now, maybe it was partially because when

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Speaker 4: we were filling out our little Fox Sports bracket predictions

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Speaker 4: with who's gonna meet in the Super Bowl and who's

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Speaker 4: gonna win and who's gonna be the surprise team this season,

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Speaker 4: Kevin was right above me, and I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: just cheat off of what he did, even though he

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Speaker 4: might be right.

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Speaker 2: My predictions are horrible. No, come on, now, come on, now,

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Speaker 2: who did you have the Ravens? I believe I picked Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yes see, that's aging really well after the way they

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Speaker 3: performed on Sunday Night, especially in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second.

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Speaker 4: Now they can redeem themselves on that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how many games that Ravens should have

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Speaker 3: won over the past five years.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'll get to John Harbaugh. There's a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: He will be under the hot microphone or under the

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Speaker 4: hot lamp. I should say he will feel your wrath

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Speaker 4: later in the show. He will, he will. But I

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Speaker 4: was thinking about picking them. So one of the main

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Speaker 4: reasons I took Green Bay was just to not pick

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Speaker 4: exactly who picked right in front of me, which was

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Speaker 4: you on the same list.

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Speaker 2: So everybody sees that and.

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Speaker 4: Goes, oh, adam just copying off, you know, the other

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get accused of cheating here. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't need any more of that right now. Well,

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Look, I will say the passing game not quite well

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Speaker 4: It's been an issue They've gotten by without guys before.

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Speaker 4: But eventually you're gonna need pretty much everybody healthy if

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Speaker 2: I will say they're kind of doing it by committee.

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Speaker 3: They do have a lot of young receivers, and they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the Lions were the number one seed

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Speaker 2: They were that good. It was just too much attrition

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Speaker 3: But the last three weeks of the year, they just

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Speaker 4: Being in the NFC North will do that. There will

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Speaker 3: But Micah Parsons so far through two games limited snaps,

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Speaker 4: So he was in forty five percent of the defensive

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Speaker 4: a believer in Jordan Love, I'm a believer in their

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Speaker 2: And they were good already.

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Speaker 4: I think they were very good, but he can be

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Speaker 4: the cherry on top for them. And holding two prolific

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Speaker 4: the Lions and now the Commander's being held to just

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Speaker 4: far for the Packers, by the way, that should be mentioned,

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Speaker 4: but their defenses look dominant out there.

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Speaker 3: I would say the performance against Washington was even more

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Speaker 3: impressive because the choit we knew there were moving parts.

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Speaker 3: They lost a couple of starting offensive linemen, they lost

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Speaker 3: who was not with them last year. He was with

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Speaker 3: So they're still getting their sea legs under them when

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Speaker 3: it comes to offense. But Washington brought back everyone, added

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Speaker 2: The continuity is still there.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, it looked to me like, you know,

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Speaker 3: looked like Washington was just.

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Speaker 2: Moving in molasses. Yeah, it was really odd to see.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the score was probably closer than the game actually

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Speaker 4: felt because green Bay was dominant, didn't Deebo get a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now it's one of those weird things.

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Speaker 3: And this happens in the NFL a lot where a

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Speaker 3: that was the case for like eighty percent of this game.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to point that out as a

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Speaker 3: bit of an issue for Green Bay, sure, I say,

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Speaker 3: have games like this where, for whatever reason, things are

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Speaker 4: So maybe while it's the best of times for one team,

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Speaker 4: it's the worst of times for the Dallas Maverick or

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Speaker 4: for the Dallas Mavericks. So Micah Parsons stuff is never

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Speaker 4: going away. That parallel Fredi and slip, of course, but the.

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Speaker 2: Dallas the winning championships in the next couple of years

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Speaker 2: and getting the last laugh, Okay, that could still happen.

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Speaker 2: Highly doubtful, Yeah, very very doubtful.

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Speaker 4: But the other side of the story is every time

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Speaker 4: Green Bay wins, now the Dallas Cowboys have to answer

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Speaker 4: questions about why they moved on for Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Now we got thank you Jerry Chance and Michaeh Parson's

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Speaker 3: leading the charge for the crowd out there in Lambeau,

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Speaker 3: which I would too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did Laker fans say thank you Nico

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Speaker 4: He gave him so Yeah, that sounds about right, and

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Speaker 4: they're deserved. But my position was, and I still stand

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Speaker 4: on it. I'm standing on business here. I may die

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Speaker 4: on this hill and I may end up being galactically

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Speaker 4: stupid and wrong for having this position. I just don't

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Speaker 4: think Michael Parsons puts the Dallas Cowboys over the top.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I felt like him going to Green Bay he could

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl contender type.

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't gonna happen in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: But I'll say this, the Cowboys didn't look that bad

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Speaker 4: against the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: They were close in that.

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Speaker 3: Game, which for me, and I think part of that

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Speaker 3: is Dak Prescott looks to be a much better shape

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Speaker 3: than he was to go in going into last season.

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Speaker 2: He looks like twenty twenty three guys.

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Speaker 3: He was accurate. I mean, they probably I can say

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Speaker 3: they probably win. They have an even greater chance of

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Speaker 3: winning that game of ceedee Lamb doesn't drop a couple

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Speaker 3: of for him really easy catches in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: on those last couple of drives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the last one was that's a really tough catch,

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Speaker 2: But the other two those are great balls from Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: It's my quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So I think it actually makes the trade look a

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Speaker 3: little bit worse if this is what the offense is

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Speaker 3: a certain degree. Now in the second half, they were

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Speaker 3: You're right, so I know. So the Cowboys make the

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Speaker 5: It's my quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Who's a closer.

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Speaker 4: That was an absolute three flies up ball that miraculously

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Speaker 3: They clinched the postseason birth with Derek Carr healthy, then

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Speaker 2: But they won.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this because you're being logical and

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Speaker 2: And to be fair to me, if I was the GM.

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Speaker 4: I would have traded him back when they knew this

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Speaker 4: It was not optimal, and I think that part of

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: Not all is lost, but it creates storylines that you

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Speaker 2: This happened.

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Speaker 3: I know you're gonna get to Jerry's quote, but and

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Speaker 3: think it's the most important, relevant and recent comp Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 3: asked about it every other week. Becau Khalil Mack is

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Speaker 3: you kidding me? He's really playing that well? He's like, yeah, John,

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you got this rag tag defensive line that can't

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, though, Is it clear and

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Speaker 2: I would say so. So you look at the draft

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Speaker 3: So Jonathan Abram was one of the picks, was a

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Speaker 2: He was good. He's been a really good player when healthy.

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Speaker 4: Ie, they've got Jacobs in the Khalil Mack trade.

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Speaker 3: But even with that, it's like, how much of an

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Speaker 3: Because that's what the argument is when you make deals

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Speaker 4: But the other side is right now, we're complimenting Green

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Speaker 4: They never won a playoff game with Khalil Mack?

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Speaker 2: Oh what so my comparison is who went that much further?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the Raiders went to a playoff

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Speaker 3: No, no, and neither team did. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: When they beat the Chargers in that game where nobody

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Speaker 2: That's fair when you have potentially now.

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Speaker 3: they brought in Leonard Floyd's, washed up quote unquote von

445
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Speaker 3: Miller veterans who maybe had a little bit left in

446
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Speaker 3: the tank, but they knew Aaron Donald was so great

447
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 3: that he'd be able to elevate their games and help

448
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 3: make them better. And even guys that you've drafted to

449
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,600
Speaker 3: Bastian Joseph Dais and Jordan Fuller's and those guys were

450
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,120
Speaker 3: instrumentally getting into one Super Bowl and having them win

451
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Speaker 3: another Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You have a guy like that.

453
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Speaker 3: It's much harder to find a great player than it

454
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Speaker 3: is to find a group of good players in the draft.

455
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Speaker 3: If you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just a guy with the Browns though, that's

457
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Speaker 4: I think is maybe a generational defensive end. Yeah, their

458
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 4: defense is still bad. We'll see, Well, it's one game

459
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,400
Speaker 4: they actually didn't play that poorly against Cincinnati. Max Crosby

460
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 4: hasn't turned the Raiders defense into a jug or not.

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Speaker 3: I would argue that Mass Crosby is a very very

462
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Speaker 3: good defensive end. I don't know if he's generated talent.

463
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 2: No, but you don't have to pay big money.

464
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's gonna happen the next you know,

465
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 3: big pro ball. This high quarterbacks. We talk about Deak

466
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,400
Speaker 3: Prescott's contract. If you are a productive quarterback, knowing how

467
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Speaker 3: hard that position is to fill. Defensive end is kind

468
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 3: of in that same line. Guys are gonna get overpaid. Well,

469
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 3: he's probably shouldn't, but they do.

470
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Speaker 4: I grade relative to how much you're being paid and

471
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Speaker 4: what your production and impact is. How good of a

472
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Speaker 4: move this could end up being or not being for

473
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Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. We shall see right now. It obviously

474
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 4: looks bad. Things do need to play out, and I'm

475
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Speaker 4: definitely behind it, but or at least behind on the

476
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Speaker 4: wrong end of this right now.

477
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Speaker 2: It's the quote from Jerry.

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Speaker 4: Jones, who his team lost Game one, And this is

479
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 4: what frustrates me. And if I heard this from I'm

480
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Speaker 4: a Dallas if I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, if I

481
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Speaker 4: heard this, I would be upset.

482
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Speaker 2: He's answering a question about green Bay quote.

483
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Speaker 4: The way they're playing, the way green Bay is playing,

484
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 4: I'm all form enjoying and chanting anything they want to play.

485
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Speaker 4: I understand that if you make a move on a

486
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Speaker 4: top player, this shouldn't surprise anybody that we would have

487
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Speaker 4: that kind of reaction from the other team's fan base,

488
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Speaker 4: or for that matter, our fan base in general.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 4: I knew this day was coming almost the day I

491
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Speaker 4: walked into training camp. I knew that if I got

492
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Speaker 4: to make this trade, that this would be there in coming.

493
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Speaker 4: If you knew almost on the day of training camp

494
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Speaker 4: that Micah Parsons was likely going to be moved, and

495
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Speaker 4: all the messaging was we're going to figure it out,

496
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Speaker 4: blah blah blah, we're not trading him.

497
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Speaker 2: You probably should have shipped.

498
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Speaker 4: Him out right as free agency opened and got as

499
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Speaker 4: much as you could for him.

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Speaker 2: That's my issue. He's full of it. We know that

501
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Speaker 2: it is full of it. It's a good story.

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Speaker 3: It was an ego play by Jerry Jones. He wanted

503
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Speaker 3: to lean on this handshake quote unquote agreement, and when

504
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons played hardball, he didn't want to play hardball back.

505
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 3: He says, this is my franchise. You're not gonna hold

506
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Speaker 3: me hostage. I will ship you out. This is my team.

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Speaker 3: At least that's the way that I view it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a fair way to view it.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, we got to talk about a big

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Speaker 4: rival of the Dallas Cowboys that goes back decades. Has

511
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Speaker 4: the window closed on the San Francisco forty nine ers?

512
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Speaker 2: Is it shut? Is it locked?

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Speaker 4: We'll say you next here on FNA on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Houschman, Zada, and Plexigo.

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Speaker 2: So Kevin, when it comes.

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Speaker 4: To predictions with me, I like being a year early

547
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 4: rather than a year late. And I think I may

548
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Speaker 4: have been early on something here, okay, because you know

549
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 4: from NorCal sack Town originally, which most people associate with

550
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Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, and thinking I must have grown

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Speaker 4: up a forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: Fan, and I did.

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Speaker 3: The natural belief is that you either gravitate towards the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers or other Raiders growing up in that area.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well they're wrong, Am I wrong?

556
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Speaker 4: I mean I was, But then they were winning so

557
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 4: much it became annoying, and they were dominating the NFC least.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.

559
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Speaker 3: I have never understood this line of thinking when this

560
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: happens with people like this team was winning so much.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of rooting for a team that wins so

562
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Speaker 3: damn much.

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Speaker 4: I want to earn it. Okay, I believe me. When

564
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: the Panthers eventually win the Super Bowl, I'm gonna feel

565
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 4: like I earned it with everything they put me through. Okay,

566
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Speaker 4: but the forty nine Ers, everyone's wearing Niners gear all

567
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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: I like to be counterculture with things zig when others zag.

570
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: So when the Panthers came in in ninety five and

571
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Speaker 4: beat the forty nine Ers in the first ever matchup

572
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: between them, I was like, that's my team plus their colors.

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Speaker 2: Really cool? How's that working out for you? That great?

574
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Speaker 2: It's put me through a lot of pain, it's it

575
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: ain't stop.

576
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Speaker 4: But eventually it's gonna make it that much more sweeter

577
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: when they win. There's no sweet without the sour. Kevin,

578
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: That's how it works, right.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the forty nine ers after those runs

581
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Speaker 3: in the mid nineties, one Steve Young went away.

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Speaker 2: I know they were decent with Jeff Garcia and Mooch and.

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Speaker 3: All that for a while, but it's not like they

584
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: had their dry run there for a long stretch too,

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Speaker 3: a little bit before the Shanahan era came in and

586
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Speaker 3: they start and they got to another couple of Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Here, And to be fair, the Niners have been through

588
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 4: some hell recently. They've lost three Super Bowls and they

589
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: have lost in epic fail fashion. They were close in

590
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Speaker 4: all three of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's still people who believe that whatever

592
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: was behind that power outage when they played Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know what that was all about.

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Speaker 2: But Beyonce takes up too much power, That's all that exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she was doing the halftime show there.

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Speaker 5: Come on.

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Speaker 3: I just remember the forty nine er fans were just

598
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Speaker 3: so obnoxious to saying like, we're we're undefeated in Super

599
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: Bowls and I was like, well, how's that street I'm

600
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: treating you now?

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Speaker 2: Oh, for their last.

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Speaker 4: Three and they have lost late and fourth quarters. It

603
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Speaker 4: was Crabtree with a fade route at the end of

604
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: that one that they couldn't get it to home on right.

605
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Speaker 4: Then it was Mahomes taking them down the last two,

606
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Speaker 4: the last one going into overtime.

607
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: The previous one where Jimmy Garoppolo just slightly overthrew I

608
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: forget which receiver it was, and Haddy Calne down that

609
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 3: would have won it.

610
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were up by ten with ten minutes left,

611
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Speaker 4: and there was some major holding going on by the

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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: We don't have to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: That was the COVID Super Bowl, if I remember correctly,

615
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: right before everything shut down.

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Speaker 4: So the Niners be that close recently with Kyle Shanahan

617
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Speaker 4: as their head coach, yet coming up short with some

618
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Speaker 4: great teams. I'm starting to feel like and I felt

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Speaker 4: like this all of last year. I was telling my

620
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Speaker 4: cousins up in NorCal guys, I think there's a draft

621
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Speaker 4: in here. Shut the windows, like I think the window

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Speaker 4: is shut on the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Now I know how you operate. Uh oh, Now do

624
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Speaker 3: you actually believe this or are you just trolling them? Okay,

625
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: it was a little bit of both.

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Speaker 2: Both can be true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I honestly I might have trolled myself into

628
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Speaker 4: believing this. I said it so much that I started

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Speaker 4: to believe it because once Rock Purdy got paid, you

630
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: know how this works. Once young quarterbacks get paid, you

631
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 4: can't pay his weapons. You can't pay a lot of

632
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Speaker 4: the other guys out there.

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00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: You gotta cut somewhere. Yeah, And so.

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Speaker 4: What it has to be is for that sustained success

635
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Speaker 4: is that quarterback now elevates guys that would be lesser

636
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 4: next to a worse quarterback, but he makes them better.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes can do that.

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00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has proven that there are a select few

639
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: guys that are transcendent that can bring everyone along with them.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if Rock Purdy is that he

641
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: could be, but I don't know right now. And this

642
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 4: forty nine ers team, it's not just that they've lost guys.

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Speaker 4: The guys that they still have are getting a little

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Speaker 4: along in the tooth.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the issue, if all things were equal.

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Speaker 3: Look, we said this going into the season before Week one,

648
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Speaker 3: like San Francisco favored by a lot of people to

649
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: still win the NFC West, even though a lot of

650
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: those same pundit's thought that the Rams were actually a

651
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: better team than the forty nine ers. San Francisco just

652
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: has one of the easiest schedules in the entire league.

653
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: The problem with San Francisco is they're top heavy. So

654
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Speaker 3: if they lose important guys like Brandon Ayuk, who's not

655
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Speaker 3: gonna play before week six or week seven or whatever

656
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: it is, Juwan Jennings, who on top of his contract situation,

657
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: is banged up. Christian McCaffrey who was banged up going

658
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: into last weekend's Week one game, we didn't know if

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Speaker 3: he was gonna play. Yeah, Now George Kettle's out for

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Speaker 3: at least four weeks. Rock parties out for two to

661
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Speaker 3: five weeks. So you lose one or two of those guys,

662
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Speaker 3: you're like, man, it's gonna be really tough sledding because

663
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Speaker 3: they just don't have the depth because they just not

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Speaker 3: have drafted well the last few years. They've really whipped

665
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Speaker 3: the last three years on a lot of their draft picks,

666
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Speaker 3: and that ends up catching up with you as you

667
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Speaker 3: age out. One thing the Rams have done and people

668
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: have praised them for over this run under Sean McVay,

669
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Speaker 3: is they've been able to aid certain guys out, move

670
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Speaker 3: those guys out, draft new guys in, and be able

671
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Speaker 3: to keep that momentum rolling and that's something San Francisco

672
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: has just not has not been able to do.

673
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Speaker 2: The other issue with them has been a coach that

674
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: is a great coach, that is a genius and mad scientist,

675
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: but the game gets a little sped up late. And

676
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: we've talked about this. This goes back to his days

677
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Speaker 2: in Atlanta as a coordinator.

678
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and obviously the first Super Bowl is not on him.

679
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: That was Jim Harbaugh. And I don't think there was

680
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Speaker 4: major coaching malfunctions going on, But Kyle Shanahan, he gets

681
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: a little bit tight late in games.

682
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Speaker 9: The kids are playing their tailor, the coaches are.

683
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Speaker 4: Screwing it up, and when you're in those small margins

684
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Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl, they tend to come down to

685
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Speaker 4: calling the right play, believing in your guys, not being overly.

686
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say soft out there. Conservative man, Yeah, conservative,

687
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Speaker 2: very conservative. So we brought up John Harbaugh earlier.

688
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Speaker 4: Most blown double digit leads in fourth quarters over the

689
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Speaker 4: last ten seasons. Playoffs included John Harbaugh in the news

690
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Speaker 4: for the wrong reasons.

691
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Speaker 2: Seven. I didn't know that'stat, but I could have believed it.

692
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Speaker 2: That makes sense to me.

693
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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan six. How about most double digit leads blown

694
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Speaker 4: since twenty twenty. Okay, leading by ten plus points at

695
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Speaker 4: any time, not just in the fourth quarter. The Chargers,

696
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Speaker 4: you could have guessed that to Yeah, that's eleven.

697
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Par for the course, the Ravens twelve, looking back for you, Baltimore,

698
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Speaker 3: the forty nine.

699
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Speaker 4: Ers thirteen and since twenty twenty, that's all Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Correct one hundred percent on his ledger.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, I do think Kyle Shannan's a

702
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Speaker 3: great coach who has his share of shortcomings.

703
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Speaker 2: I'd say the same thing about Andy Reid.

704
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Speaker 3: I've been critical of Andy Reid's clock management in his

705
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Speaker 3: tenure going back to Philadelphia.

706
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Speaker 2: Now it hasn't mattered in many senses.

707
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Speaker 3: He still has had great success at wherever he's been,

708
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Speaker 3: and obviously has won multiple Super Bowls in Kansas City,

709
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: so it hasn't hurt him too much. But if you're

710
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Speaker 3: Kyle and you haven't won yet and I don't think

711
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: he's on the hot seat, I think that's ridiculous. Even

712
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Speaker 3: if they do have a bad year this year, especially

713
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Speaker 3: if this run of injuries continues to all of these

714
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Speaker 3: important players.

715
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Speaker 4: Easily explainable for a bad season if these guys remain out,

716
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Speaker 4: you just.

717
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Speaker 2: Kind of chalk it up to it to a bit

718
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Speaker 2: of a mulligin.

719
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Speaker 3: But ultimately between him and John Lynch, and it's mostly

720
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Speaker 3: on him because he hired John Lynch, is gonna be

721
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Speaker 3: incumbent on them to rebuild this roster and make them

722
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Speaker 3: into a contender again with Brock Purdy as the guy

723
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Speaker 3: shepherding them into the future. Because to your point, they

724
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: just signed him to this massive extension. He's not going anywhere.

725
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Speaker 3: I do think he's better than a lot of people

726
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Speaker 3: give him credit for. I don't think he's a caretaker. Sure,

727
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: he's a system quarterback. I think most quarterbacks are system quarterbacks.

728
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: You can count on a few fingers guys who can

729
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: transcend systems. He's perfect for the system that they run.

730
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: But whether or not he can actually put a team

731
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Speaker 3: on his back and take a bunch of Alsarman no

732
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Speaker 3: name guys and carry them, I don't know if he's

733
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Speaker 3: that good.

734
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Speaker 4: That's the issue with him being out during this time

735
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Speaker 4: where other guys are out. It would have been interesting

736
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Speaker 4: to see how he performs in this setting. Can he elevate,

737
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: can he raise the level play with guys around him,

738
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Speaker 4: can he find a way to show us something different

739
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Speaker 4: that we haven't seen. It's not like he hasn't have

740
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: really good games. It's not like he hasn't made big

741
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: throws great He's looked very clutch at times. He looks

742
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: like a guy to me that you can win a

743
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: Super Bowl with. Obviously, because they almost won it. They

744
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: lost in overtime and Kyle Shanahan had like his decision

745
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: there with the kickoff are Ei there? My god, he

746
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: couldn't close a blockbuster like he couldn't close a Border's books.

747
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan is so bad sometimes laden games. He has

748
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: brain falls.

749
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Speaker 3: I will say there was a play late in that game,

750
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Speaker 3: in that overtime period, or may have been before the

751
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Speaker 3: overtime period, where San Francisco had the ball and brock

752
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: Party made a bad read and there was an open receiver,

753
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: all these things getting it picked obviously on the biggest

754
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: stage at the Super Bowl. But I don't know if

755
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: he was feeling pressure on the backside. It looked like

756
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: a pretty good play design in brock Party, albeit a

757
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: young quarterback without a lot of experience, just made the

758
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: wrong read at the most critical time of the game.

759
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Speaker 3: So that's something that if that's executed, Kyle Shanhan's a genius.

760
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: They win the Super Bowl in all as well. But

761
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Speaker 2: all of.

762
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Speaker 4: This is besides the point of is their window shut?

763
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Speaker 4: We can talk about, Oh, they could win the division.

764
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: We can talk about I think Brock Perdy could end

765
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Speaker 4: up being a top ten quarterback in the next couple

766
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Speaker 4: of seasons.

767
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Speaker 2: He could prove that he might be there now. To

768
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, I think I mean.

769
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Speaker 4: That tier list that we talked about a few weeks back,

770
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Speaker 4: I think it had him around fifteen or sixteen, and

771
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Speaker 4: I felt like he could have been ahead of Dak

772
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: in my mind only because he's less of a finished product,

773
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Speaker 4: and I think he's pretty similar to Dak in some ways,

774
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Speaker 4: and I might put him in front, or at least

775
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: if I was starting a franchise, I'd rather have Brock

776
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: Purdy because there's more unknowns with him, and in this case,

777
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: the devil you know isn't better than the devil you don't,

778
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Speaker 4: because I feel like Dak Prescott he's just not going

779
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: to be that guy. However, this all comes down to,

780
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Speaker 4: is this forty nine ers ero with Kyle Shanahan. Let's

781
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: say an era or window is within the next three

782
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: four years, because we got to put some specificity out there.

783
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Speaker 2: Sure what we're talking about.

784
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: I do think it's probably shut in terms of winning

785
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Now that's the highest bar, too clear.

786
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: But you only get so many opportunities, and they had

787
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: three good ones and they couldn't get it done. And

788
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: now they have lesser teams than they had back then.

789
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: In my opinion, unless Rock turns out to be a

790
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: top five quarterback within the near future.

791
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Speaker 3: I don't know how their salary situation ends up playing out.

792
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I know they gave him a big contract. I know

793
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: they ended up giving Christian McCaffrey, who I think maybe

794
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: up in a couple of years now. At this point

795
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: in time, and the way these salaries are all structured,

796
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of outs. The point is, if they

797
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: are able to draft better restructure some contracts, they can

798
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Speaker 3: make themselves competitive for the next couple of years. Well,

799
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: they have as high of a potential ceiling as they've

800
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: had these last five or six. Probably not so to

801
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: your point, maybe they find themselves being in a playoff

802
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: contentus situation, but not necessarily a Championship Contenson situation, that window,

803
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: that particular window might have closed on them.

804
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm sorry, nor unfortunately for San Francisco forty nine

805
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: er fans at least. Yeah.

806
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, the Giants beat the Dodgers with

807
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: a walk off Grand Slam tonight.

808
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: Celebrate that.

809
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: If you're hurt over this conversation.

810
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: I'm sure that'll do a lot for you. Oh, coming

811
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Speaker 3: up next, Oh, we have stranger than fiction? What's a

812
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 3: stranger in fiction?

813
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Adam?

814
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: You know, animals are multiplying without doing uh the nasty.

815
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 4: There's some weird stuff going on, some fluky stuff, some

816
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 4: Jurassic Park like stuff.

817
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: You could say, we got to talk about it. Next.

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Speaker 2: This is FNA on FSR. FNA Cottonna. It is FNA

819
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Speaker 2: on FSR. Kevin Figures.

820
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Speaker 3: Adam Alsen with you guys on Fox Football Saturday, broadcasting

821
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Speaker 3: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up in

822
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Speaker 3: about fifteen minutes or so, it'll be the NFL six

823
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Speaker 3: Pack Week two preview coming up.

824
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. But right now, let's get to

825
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Speaker 2: its food customer defending precision called Night one after her

826
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

827
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Speaker 9: Strange, he can't give a drunk man riding a horse

828
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 9: at ewy and he got.

829
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Speaker 2: Unlike cars, words don't have motors. They have a mind

830
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Speaker 2: of their own. Strange twenty four year old man now

831
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Speaker 2: Jusep throwing an alligator through a drive through window.

832
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Speaker 10: To high Strange Dan Fish, Oh, Kevin, we're all familiar

833
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 10: with the phrase life finds away uttered by Ian Malcolm

834
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Speaker 10: in Jurassic Park.

835
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Speaker 3: Jeff Goldblum, I was gonna say it was that Jeff Goblan's character.

836
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure it wasn't. Samuel Jackson. He died in the

837
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Speaker 3: first fifteen minutes.

838
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Speaker 4: He didn't make it, no, but I mean his sacrifice

839
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Speaker 4: will not be forgotten.

840
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: Ever.

841
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure he cursed out that

842
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: dinosaur before they hate him doing.

843
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 5: Oh, no doubt.

844
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Speaker 2: I'll guarantee that happens as he was getting carved up

845
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: by that veloci after. I'm sure. I'm sure you let

846
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Speaker 2: him hear it.

847
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: Now.

848
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 4: It's not just West African read frogs changing sexes during

849
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: their tadpole stage that is shocking. Scientists who were so

850
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: preoccupied preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't

851
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: stop to think if they should, at least when it

852
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: came to completing dino DNA chains during that explanation for

853
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: Jurassic Park. And you know how the movie came about

854
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: off the Michael Crichton book.

855
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: Which was like nine thousand pages.

856
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: Long, and believe it or not, the book finds a

857
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: way to be better than the movie. But even great movies,

858
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: they're at a disadvantage. Adaptations are really hard, and like

859
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: the strands and missing DNA, there's always going to be

860
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: scenes in a long form novel missing in a movie.

861
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Speaker 4: But Steven Spielberg did about as good of a job as.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you what was missing a lot?

863
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Speaker 4: Okay, about ten hours. I want a Jurassic Park mini series.

864
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: But I love that book. But in speaking to reptiles

865
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: doing remarkable things, not Spielberg.

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Speaker 2: He looks pretty good for seventy eight.

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Speaker 4: He's not a dinosaur yet, though his best films are

868
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: buried pretty deep right now in his catalog, because I

869
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Speaker 4: don't think he's done a good one since Munich that

870
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: was like two thousand and five. So while he's barren

871
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: with producing good content, a female casca headed iguana that

872
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: didn't even have a partner was able to produce Baby

873
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: Iggy's is what I'm calling baby iguanas here. Iggy's not

874
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: Iggy Pop, not Andrea Gudala, Iggy's. Those are baby iguanas.

875
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Speaker 4: And these cascae iguanas that look smaller and they're kind

876
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 4: of like halfway between an iguana and a gecko with their.

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Speaker 2: Look like the Geico geko.

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Speaker 3: Are they an actual hybrid of a gecko and a

879
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: They're just they're just small. But I mean, we're talking

880
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: to Durassic Park and hybridizing things and using DNA, and.

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a fair point. It needs to

882
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: be asked. And so does this How did this immaculate

883
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: conception with these iguana babies without you know, having the

884
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: female iguana and her sleeve of lizard occupied by a

885
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: male iguana happened?

886
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: I mean, are we sure that a male iguana didn't

887
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: slide up in there? Fox in the head house in

888
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 3: the middle of the night, nobody knew a little knock

889
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: on the knock on the window.

890
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: Apparently some rocks on the window. She opened it up

891
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: and he came on in.

892
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: They had security cameras, Okay, they were ready for it.

893
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, she didn't have a mate.

894
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: So even though there was no mate.

895
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: Uh, this female iguana ended up with eight baby iguanas.

896
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: Cores a lot, according to a staff at an iguana

897
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: zoo in the United Kingdom, and normally I would say

898
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: an entire zoo dedicated to iguanas is kind of overkilled,

899
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: But after a virgin octomom birth, they do seem pretty

900
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: interesting now. So the eight iggy hatchlings happened in a

901
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: very rare occurrence called parthenogenesis, which allows unfertilized eggs to

902
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 4: grow into embryos that become genetic clones of the mother.

903
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: My question is do all the genetic clones also had

904
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: the ability for parthogenesis? But anyways, the occurrence is of

905
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: course said to be one of the rarest events in

906
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 4: the animal kingdom, according to the zoo keeper, Scott Adams,

907
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: who said, quote, when we confirmed the eggs were fertile

908
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: without any contact from a male, our jaws dropped to

909
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: the floor. These babies are essentially many mum clones and

910
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: seeing them thrives incredible for us. It's a powerful reminder

911
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: that life finds a way in the most unexpected circumstances.

912
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like a line from Jurassic Park. It is

913
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: it finds a way. It is parthogenesis.

914
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 4: By the way, I guess it happens with a handful

915
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: of reptiles and also something called an epilette shark. It

916
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 4: gave birth to a pup once and didn't have sex first,

917
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: so kind of crazy.

918
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: We had virgin birth in many of these animals. Then

919
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: it happens once in a while. Well, I guess there's

920
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: no confirmation that's the weather or not there are virsions.

921
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: I guess I'm supposed to take their word for it.

922
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: That's the fair point, too. Are just saying look at

923
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: me like that prey. Imagine though a Maury episode doing

924
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: the paternity test revealing this iguana and uh, who the

925
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: father could be? It's like, you're not the father, and

926
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: neither is anyone else. Oh, I told y'all that's right.

927
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: I told you him one my kids, they ain't got

928
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: my nose. You see her little nose. That nose ain't mine.

929
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: I told you what my kids.

930
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much all the male iguanas are clear. This

931
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: was a virgin birth buy an iguana in the United Kingdom.

932
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: Pretty miraculous stuff. Yeah, he finds a way.

933
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: I like it.

934
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know what else finds a way?

935
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: The NFL six pack Adam Alston Kevin Figures here on

936
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Speaker 3: Fox Football Saturday. The NFL six Pack Week two edition

937
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Speaker 3: coming up next on FSR.

938
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

939
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Speaker 4: Fn A on FSR is back in effect. Second hour

940
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Speaker 4: here for you. Coming up, we got Petros Papadaka is

941
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: joining us Fox Sports Expert. You could say, you know

942
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: he played. Some give non player opinions. Some can say

943
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: they were there, they saw things through a face mask.

944
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: Petros Papadaka is one of them.

945
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: According to some, non player opinions don't matter. So I mean,

946
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: why are we even here?

947
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't like that. No, No, that was

948
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: a little bit too far. Ryan Clark, Yeah, I think

949
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: there are there are time not speaking necessarily about him,

950
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of people who did not play.

951
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: I wasn't It was insights I respect more than people

952
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: who did. I'll put it. I'll leave it at that.

953
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it turns out some guys that played have some

954
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: of the worst.

955
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: Opinions of all time.

956
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, there's a guy for formerly of TNT,

957
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: Shaquille O'Neal, Like, where's where's the uh, the special knowledge

958
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: he's supposed to have because he played the game, say

959
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: the same about Chuck Kenny's doing Okay, okay, yeah, say

960
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: the same about Kendrick Perkins, Like, come on, what are

961
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: we talking about?

962
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: I think playing the game.

963
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: We said this when we talked about the Denzel Washington

964
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: thing a few weeks back. Playing the game, knowing the game,

965
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 4: talking the game are three different things, absolutely, and we're

966
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: talking the game.

967
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: And Petros did all of them, and all of them

968
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: very well, very high level.

969
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 5: Yes.

970
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: So Petro's gonna.

971
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Join us here in about twenty minutes or so to

972
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: talk about this weekend's action around college football. But here

973
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: we want to go around the NFL and do one

974
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: of our favorite segments here.

975
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: On time for the NFL six Pack.

976
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: Wasn't really get used to that? Is that the bird

977
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: from the sandlot. Now I feel better, pretty good.

978
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: Six topics around six different not necessarily teams could be, coaches,

979
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: could be players, but six different categories that we bring

980
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: you every single solitary week in the midnight hour on

981
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: the West coast three am on the East coast here

982
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: on f and A on FSR. So we're gonna start

983
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 3: this week with the hot seat heat check the coach

984
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: or player under the most pressure this weekend a what

985
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: do you got?

986
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: You know who I got?

987
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: I am increasing the heat on Bryce Young from being

988
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 4: as hot as a young Adam thought that incident between

989
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: the Panthers cheerleaders in the bathroom was in two thousand

990
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: and five to Bryce feeling like he's in the center

991
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: of the sun while taping an episode of Hot Ones.

992
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 4: That's how hot his seat should be. If Bryce Young

993
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: can't read a hot route, then he needs to at

994
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: least find the route to the hot seat. I warned

995
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: myself a few weeks back that all those positives we

996
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: saw after he returned from being benched for Andy Dalton

997
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: last year was after the Panthers were removed from the

998
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 4: playoff picture and he was playing with lowered expectations with

999
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: much less pressure. And apparently the pressure of going up

1000
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: against their expansion cousins and the Jaguars from last week

1001
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: was too much for him. His QB rating was even

1002
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 4: lower than it was his rookie year ago.

1003
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: As the Jaguars. Oh that's hard to do a couple

1004
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: of years ago. Yeah, he went from a QB rating

1005
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: his rookie year against the Jags a fifty three point

1006
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: one to forty nine on the dot in week one

1007
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: this season, I have seen no progress progress from Bryce Young,

1008
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: and now he heads to Arizona this week, appropriately as

1009
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: it can get pretty hot there, Kevin, and if he

1010
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: throws a few more picks, he might just spontaneously combust

1011
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: out in that Arizona.

1012
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully not whish harm to him, any more harm than

1013
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: he's already been under playing behind the offensive line.

1014
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: He better play with a sense of urgency like his

1015
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: hair is on fire, because it might be, and he.

1016
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: Might be replaced by a fiery redhead named Andy Dalton

1017
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: next week if it doesn't.

1018
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 4: Exactly look out for the hot seat flames around Bryce Young.

1019
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him.

1020
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, all right, so we know what Andy Dalton

1021
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: can or can't do. I guess he raises your ceiling

1022
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: a little bit and helps you win more games. I mean,

1023
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: are you so you're totally out on Bryce Young completely?

1024
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: It sounds like you've seen enough you don't want to

1025
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: give anymore.

1026
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: If he sucks it up this week, you're willing to

1027
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: put him on the bench and be done with the

1028
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Bryce Young experience. But you're not even gonna give him

1029
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: even like four or five games here.

1030
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 4: No, I'll want him, make him wear it as a punishment.

1031
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: He has to keep playing. That's what I want him

1032
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 4: to do, because they don't have better option. Throwing Andy

1033
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: Dalton out there. It doesn't mean anything. It's not gonna

1034
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 4: save your season.

1035
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it did, you're not going anywhere anyway. Had

1036
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm so, I mean, let's go out there and just

1037
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: not for just being honest. Yeah, So let the kid

1038
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: go out there and he have some more growing pains

1039
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: and see what he can do. Who do you got

1040
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: in the hot seat?

1041
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: I got John Morton, Not the old USC receiver Johnny Morton,

1042
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 3: but John Morton, the new offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.

1043
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: We hear all the time about continuity and how important

1044
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: it is for football teams.

1045
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: Now, he was not on the Lions staff last year.

1046
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: He was a passing game coordinator for the Denver Broncos

1047
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: the last two seasons. He was an offensive assistant three

1048
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: years ago in Detroit. Now he returns to the to

1049
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: the team after Ben Johnson takes the head coaching job

1050
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: of Chicago. So it's not as if he has no

1051
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: expers whatsoever in the organization. But three years might as

1052
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: well be a lifetime to be gone. So now you

1053
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: come in after a team had been humming the last

1054
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: couple of years. Offensively, I think they are number one

1055
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: in offense last year in the entire NFL and scoring points,

1056
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 3: And obviously things did not get off to a great

1057
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: start in green Bay last week.

1058
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: They already have a lot working against them.

1059
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: We mentioned this briefly in the first segment of the

1060
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: show when we were talking about green Bay losing two

1061
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: starters on the offensive line. You lose both coordinators, just

1062
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: your team as a whole, there's a lot of things

1063
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: going on, a lot of transition.

1064
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: They can't afford to start zero to two.

1065
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: The numbers I think on oh and two teams who

1066
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: make the postseason, I think it happens like twelve percent

1067
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: of the time or something like that. The chances of

1068
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: it happening are minuscule, and they have a tough schedule.

1069
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: They have the Bengals staring them down next Monday, after

1070
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: this weekend's game, Then after the Browns they have the Chiefs, Bucks,

1071
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: Vikings Commanders, and Eagles Murderers, Row Murderers Row. Now, granted

1072
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: there is a bye week a wedged in between. I

1073
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: believe the buccaneer in the Viking game.

1074
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Can't lose that.

1075
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: But the way things are looking, and again it's just

1076
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: one game, it's not inconceivable they could be a sub

1077
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: five hundred team by mid season. And that's gonna be

1078
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: tough sledding playing in that division and playing in a

1079
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: tough NFC conference where even getting a wild car position

1080
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: could be hard if you think you might get a

1081
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: run out of the run out of the division. So

1082
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 3: if strides are going to be made by this team

1083
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: and specifically this offense, and needs to start tomorrow. So look,

1084
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: if JJ McCarthy can have that magical run against the

1085
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: Bears defense in the fourth quarter on Monday night, then

1086
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 3: this veteran offense, even with the new offensive coordinator, better

1087
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: get that production in. And look, Dan Campbell said it himself.

1088
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: He basically said it this week. This is a must

1089
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: win game. He knows the importance of not starting OH

1090
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: one to two. And the problem for I guess both

1091
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: of these NFC North teams, somebody, either the Bears of

1092
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: the Lions, is going to be OH win two at

1093
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: the end of this weekend.

1094
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: There is a possibility of a tie. You know what

1095
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: I guess that I think is less than twelve percent, though,

1096
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: like you brought up earlier, if you start oh to two.

1097
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Speaker 3: But that the seat cannot be hotter for one. John Morton,

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00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a smart pick. Check out the big

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00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: so from the hot seat heat check. We had to

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00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: trap game tap all right?

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00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: Last week I said the Bucks Falcons game had trap

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00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: game tap potential. It did, but the Bucks pulled it

1104
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: out late after it looked like the Michael Pennix extender

1105
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: touchdown was going to win it for the Falcons.

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00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: This week, you're I don't think anything this week. I'm

1107
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: looking at the Bills, though, who obviously got one of

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00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: the best victories of the season in Week one.

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00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: Like I'm listening to the Tony Bruno Show from fifteen

1110
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: years ago.

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00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: Down fifteen run with four minutes left against the Ravens,

1112
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: as John Harbaugh would rather let Josh Allen get a

1113
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 4: chance to decide the game rather than his quarterback. I'm

1114
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: glad you have faith in your defense, John. They also

1115
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: had already given up thirty eight points while your offense

1116
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: got you forty. So maybe don't give the Bills an

1117
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: opportunity to get the ball back because we all knew

1118
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: what was going to happen next. Teams with forty plus

1119
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: points and two hundred and thirty five plus rushing yards

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00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 4: in a game were two hundred and seventy seven in

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Speaker 4: oh in NFL history. Now they're two hundred and seventy

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00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: seven and one after the Ravens blew it. They've now

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00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 4: lost eight games since twenty twenty one in which they

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00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: led at one point. That seems not good enough. Oh

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00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: and had a win probability of ninety percent at one point,

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Speaker 4: and they've lost eight games since twenty twenty one. The

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00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: Ravens had over a ninety nine percent chance to win

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00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 4: this ballgame didn't matter. They have the most blown double

1129
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Speaker 4: digit leaves in the fourth quarter over the last ten years.

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Speaker 4: As we mentioned earlier, John Harbaugh, he did win a ring.

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Speaker 3: But yes, but I was getting ready to ask you.

1132
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: Has he gotten to Brian Billick's status.

1133
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like you won a championship, and you're right,

1134
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: the cotails of that for only so long. I mean

1135
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: is we're a long ways removed from you winning that

1136
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl however many years ago, against your brother Jim.

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Speaker 4: These coaches are not infallible, and by the way, Joe

1138
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: Flacco went on an all time heater during them winning

1139
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 4: that ring. But my trap game tap has me tapping

1140
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: into some numbers that involve this since twenty twenty two,

1141
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: when Josh Allen has gone to New Jersey to face

1142
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: the Jets, He's one and two and he has a

1143
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: quarterback rating of seventy nine point one with three touchdowns

1144
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: to five picks.

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Speaker 2: So I am saying this is a trap game for

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00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: the Bills in New Jersey. In New Jersey, take.

1147
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: It on the Jets, and I kind of like what

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00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: we saw from Justin Fields week one, who nobody was

1149
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: talking about coming.

1150
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: Into this season.

1151
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: Buffalo is coming off that emotional comeback win at home.

1152
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Speaker 4: I think the Jets are gonna give this a trap

1153
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 4: game tap at least potential okay for them to beat Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I could see that that would not surprise me in

1155
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: the least pit my trap game really quickly. Here is

1156
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 3: the Rams going on the road against Tennessee. They faced

1157
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: the Eagles next weekend in Philadelphia. Tennessee showed themselves well

1158
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: against Denver this past week. Cam Ward, I know the

1159
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 3: numbers weren't pretty, but he had some really good throws.

1160
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: He had a couple of drops that ended up hurting him.

1161
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: And look, it's always an uphill climb when west coast

1162
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: west coast teams travel east, so they have that working

1163
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: against them and stacked down on top of the fact

1164
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: that Tennessee's defense looked a lot better than I think

1165
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought they might. I granted it was.

1166
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: Week one, teams still have to flush things out a

1167
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: little bit, but I think that the Tennessee Titans might

1168
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: actually be able to give the Rams a little bit

1169
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: of run for the money in this game. I don't

1170
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: know if they necessarily win, but I do think this

1171
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: is a situation where the Rams know they have a

1172
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 3: better roster than the Titans, and they could be looking

1173
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: ahead to Philadelphia, a team where they had on the

1174
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 3: ropes at home in the snow in the divisional playoffs

1175
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Speaker 3: last season. So for my trap game, tap, I got

1176
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: the Rams taking all the Titans in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 4: More on that game coming up later, but coming up

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00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: next here on F and A on FSR, it is

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 4: Petros Papadakis. You know him, of course locally in Los

1181
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: Angeles on a five to seventy LA Sports. He's on

1182
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 4: two pros and a Cup of Joe weekly on Fox

1183
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: Sports Radio and he's our Fox NFL analyst for college football.

1184
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: Everything in week three, there's a week zero. It always

1185
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: throws me off zero either way.

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00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: Crap. Petrin Fabae is breaking it all down.

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Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to Fox Football Saturday with Kevin Figures

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00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: and Adam Austlin.

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Speaker 2: F and a, Oh, Figures and Adam I get it,

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00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures, Adam Alson back with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Fox Football Saturday at kfig one is where you can

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Speaker 3: find me on Next, you can find Adam at Follow

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Speaker 3: it will always pop up at the top of your screen.

1205
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Speaker 3: Coming up and about fifteen twenty minutes or so, we'll

1206
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: get back into the NFL six pack. But right now,

1207
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: we got to get into some college football with one

1208
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: of our favorite guests, Adam Alan Dragan Dude, thank you, Dotty.

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00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Join the show right now.

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Speaker 4: As someone who never wanted an a p vote or

1211
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: a Heisman vote or even a vote for Pedro, but

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: the Fox Sports Radio listeners, they voted for Petros to

1213
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 4: rejoin us here on FNA on FSR so we could

1214
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: get the players perspective. And he's been our college football

1215
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: expert going back a DM decade. He's always done it

1216
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: for free, regardless of his busy schedule, like being on

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00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: the call later today for Utah State hosting Air Force.

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00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: It's Fox Sports Analyst Petros Papadakis back on FNA on

1219
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

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00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: Pee, how we doing, Hey, what's cragging? Guys?

1221
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 9: Congratulations on the show and greetings from Logan, Utah for

1222
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 9: the big FS one matchup tomorrow night six forty five

1223
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 9: LA time, N Eastern. Yeah, we got Utah State hosting

1224
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 9: Air Force in Merlin Olson Field at Mavericks Stadium here

1225
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 9: in Logan, Utah. So looking forward to that. Going to

1226
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 9: call the game with Trent Rush. So check it out, everybody.

1227
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 9: I've never been to Logan before, but here I am.

1228
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: What should we know about these two teams going into

1229
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 4: this one this season?

1230
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 5: P Well, some interesting things.

1231
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 9: Air Force, you know, is always air Force is amazing

1232
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 9: and I know they kind of slipped by some people

1233
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 9: on the radar, but you look at what Troy Calhoun,

1234
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 9: who's in its nineteenth season there, has done, and it's

1235
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 9: like eight wins, nine wins, eleven wins, seven wins, eight wins,

1236
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 9: nine wins. I mean, every once in a while they

1237
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 9: have a young team and they get a little better

1238
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 9: as the season goes on, like last year. But what

1239
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 9: he does with no nil, no transfer portal, no any

1240
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 9: freshmen can't play. There's a freshman team. I mean it is,

1241
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 9: and these guys have to serve in the military. What

1242
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 9: they're able to do playing against real college football teams

1243
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 9: in the FBS is it's mind blowing. And it's because

1244
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 9: nobody wants some guy from Maryland who's five foot eight,

1245
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 9: two hundred and ten pounds with the crown of his

1246
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 9: helmet flying right at your crotch for four hours. That's

1247
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 9: what they do, and it's amazing and Bronco. Menden Hall's

1248
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 9: in nineteenth year as a head coach, and if you

1249
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 9: look at him, he's had success everywhere BYU Virginia, even

1250
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 9: had some in New Mexico last year, and he's back

1251
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 9: in the state of Utah as he's a big LDS guy,

1252
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 9: So it'll be an interesting matchup. I'm really looking forward

1253
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 9: to it. Two grizzled Vets to no nonsense coaches, not

1254
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 9: a lot of bs, so that should be fun.

1255
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: But there's a lot going on tomorrow.

1256
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a lot, and I wanted to before

1257
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: we get into games, specifically because I know there's this

1258
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: legal lawsuit going on between the PEG twelve and the Mountain.

1259
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: West League of lawsuit for sure, you know, exactly being

1260
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: redundant obviously. Well, but as far as someone who's championed

1261
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: West Coast football for the entirety of your career, do

1262
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: you think that it makes the most sense for them

1263
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: to just merge at this point in time, go underneath

1264
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: the PAG twelve umbrella or do you think there's value

1265
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: in having two West Coast conferences that are both going

1266
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: to be a group of six.

1267
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 9: Well, I think there's value in it in the fact

1268
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 9: that you have different TV networks that'll do different deals

1269
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 9: to fill different time slots late at night. So I mean,

1270
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 9: if it's one big conference and they're going to have

1271
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 9: to have more deals because the TV networks want to

1272
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 9: be able to fill the spots at night. You can't

1273
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 9: kick at six forty five Pacific time from the East

1274
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 9: coast or with one of your ACC teams if you're

1275
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 9: the ESPN or something like that. And I'm not exactly

1276
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 9: sure these two are suing each other right Utah State's

1277
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 9: gone and Arizona States staying. So these are two teams

1278
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 9: tomorrow that are suing each other. Sometimes it's refreshing to

1279
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 9: have it when they're not suing each other. But yeah,

1280
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 9: there's a lot there. But I think just like everybody.

1281
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 9: I mean, I thought Jonathan Smith at Oregon State said

1282
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 9: it best right before he left town in the middle

1283
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 9: of the night from Michigan State. Every year in college

1284
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 9: football now at the end of the year, everybody stops

1285
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 9: and reevaluates the players, the coaches for the conferences, you

1286
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 9: know it really. I mean football has always been a

1287
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 9: live in the moment type of sport, but I think

1288
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 9: that you see more and more of that as as

1289
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 9: We've had all this seismic change and all that, But yeah,

1290
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 9: I wish the situation on the West Coast was more stable,

1291
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 9: just like everybody else. I missed the old PAC twelve

1292
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 9: and the old Pac ten, but we still have meaningful

1293
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 9: football being played and we're here to call it.

1294
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: Patris Vegas is our guest here.

1295
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 5: On the Diplomatic. Was that right?

1296
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1297
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: Extremely could be a lawyer therapy.

1298
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 9: I mean, I did have a conversation with the Mountain

1299
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 9: West Commissioner in Vegas over the summer. I don't think

1300
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 9: she knew who I was, or if it even matters

1301
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 9: who I am, but she was laying on her you.

1302
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 5: Know, She's like, you know, we're just thinking about right now.

1303
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 9: I was like, but it's kind of your job to

1304
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 9: look anyway. Whatever, enjoy it, Enjoy the moment.

1305
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: Petrick's Papadakis our guests here on F and A on FSR.

1306
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: He's stradling the fence that Tom Sawyer would pain and

1307
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 4: his sister, Okay, not his sister, but Hailey Sawyer.

1308
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: I alluded to.

1309
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Speaker 5: My sister Sawyer sister, right, Oh got.

1310
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: It, Hailey Sawyer. I alluded to the.

1311
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 9: Beat writer for the La the La Daily News the

1312
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 9: AP voter who was flippant about her vote.

1313
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: She's a good writer. I like her stuff.

1314
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 9: I don't like her Instagram drawing a little too much

1315
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 9: attention to herself as a beat writer. Okay, around she's

1316
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 9: like doing ballet on the US practice field, interfaced with

1317
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 9: USC guys hitting sleds and stuff.

1318
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: Well, to me, she's deleted her Twitter account.

1319
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 5: I don't know how you cover the team without a

1320
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 5: Twitter account.

1321
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, she took a lot of incoming this week from

1322
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: moving Florida up after losing a game two spots to fourteen, Like,

1323
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 4: how should she have apologize for this or just made amens.

1324
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 9: Say I screwed up? Yeah, you know, I got up

1325
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 9: early in the morning and I messed up. I didn't

1326
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 9: see that Florida lost. I'm sorry, Or how about just

1327
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 9: don't answer it at all? Don't answer it. You know,

1328
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 9: there's South Florida people, there's Southern people that are combing

1329
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 9: the desert looking for somebody to say something stupid so

1330
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 9: they can get something on the Instagram or Twitter and

1331
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 9: have it go viral. And that's exactly what happened here.

1332
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 9: I don't know why it's so difficult for everybody to

1333
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,959
Speaker 9: say I'm sorry, I was wrong. I did this wrong. Yes,

1334
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 9: there's voters, and it'll even itself out. I know it

1335
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 9: matters this was wrong or just say nothing, because there's

1336
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 9: a lot of AP voters that do this egregiously every

1337
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 9: single Sunday morning, and some people, like the real believers

1338
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 9: like Danny Knell and stuff, will call them out. But

1339
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 9: unless you go on like some weird fan podcast for

1340
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 9: USC basketball with your local fry and try to be

1341
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 9: flipping about it and act like nobody cares. That's why

1342
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 9: the backlash, not because she had an idiot vote.

1343
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 5: I mean, who cares. Just say you were wrong or

1344
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 5: say nothing at all.

1345
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 9: It was poorly handled, and I hope that the negative

1346
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 9: backlash kind of scares her straight to taking a little

1347
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 9: bit more seriously, and I hope she brings her I mean,

1348
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 9: I know people say mean things when stuff goes viral,

1349
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 9: but you know, those of us in the sports media,

1350
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 9: we do deal with that. It's you know, you make

1351
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 9: a mistake. Everybody sees it and hears it. It's okay

1352
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 9: to say you made a mistake, and people are much

1353
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 9: what are people are going to say after you say

1354
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 9: I made a mistake. They go on to the next

1355
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 9: person to skew her in the balls. So I feel

1356
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 9: like she handled this poorly, but she's a lovely lady

1357
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 9: and my apologies to her.

1358
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: Beechos Papaek is joining us here on FNA on Fox

1359
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Fox Football Saturday. Since Florida did come up,

1360
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: and I hate when people do this and talk about

1361
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: hot seat stuff in week two of the season, but

1362
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: Billy Napier's name has come up Florida. Kaylin de Borr

1363
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: his name has come up in Alabama because they haven't

1364
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: gotten off to great starts. I guess of those two,

1365
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: who do you think is more in trouble if this

1366
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: season goes south both?

1367
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 5: I mean it's the SEC.

1368
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 9: You know, if you're in the SEC and you lose early,

1369
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 9: then the momentum gets going against you and it's kind

1370
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 9: of hard to fight back against that tide. No pun intended,

1371
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 9: but I think Wisconsin's really struggling. They're going to go

1372
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 9: to Alabama and get beat pretty badly tomorrow and that

1373
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 9: will bolster to bor I don't know who Florida plays.

1374
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and LSU, Yeah, that's a big one.

1375
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 9: LSU is pretty good this year, so I mean I

1376
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 9: think that it's probably Napes, you know, but I like

1377
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 9: dbor a lot, right. I got to know him when

1378
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 9: he was at Fresno a couple of years ago, and

1379
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 9: when he had Jay Hayner the quarterback, thought he was

1380
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 9: doing great things. Told everybody in Seattle, you guys are

1381
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 9: getting a great coach. That made me look like a

1382
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 9: genius because he brought Washington football to a level they

1383
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 9: haven't been in a while. And I don't know if anybody,

1384
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 9: anybody is going to be able to take over for

1385
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 9: Nick Saban and do the same kind of job. It's

1386
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 9: just you're going to have a different vibe. You're not

1387
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 9: going to have the totalitarianism, You're not going to have

1388
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 9: the immediate buy in, the fear of the head coach,

1389
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 9: the feathered hair, you know, all of those things that

1390
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 9: go along with it.

1391
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 5: That's a really tough hill to climb.

1392
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 9: Now, he's paid well to climate and he's going to try,

1393
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 9: and if he doesn't, he's going to get paid off

1394
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 9: not to and he will be a consultant for somebody,

1395
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 9: will he gets paid millions of dollars and then he'll

1396
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 9: re emerge five or six years later. And he knew

1397
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 9: what he was doing when he took this job. Maybe

1398
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 9: it's a damn near impossible task, but you know, it's

1399
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 9: a week to week thing. A lot of the Alabama

1400
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 9: stuff quieted down when they put up seventy on Monroe

1401
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 9: and their quarterback and miss a pass in the game

1402
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 9: seventeen for seventeen. That kind of stuff. I think we

1403
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 9: do overreact week to week. But you lose to South

1404
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 9: Florida early, and Florida has been down for a little

1405
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 9: bit of a while. That's probably a worse situation.

1406
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: Is it an overreaction to say arch Manning looks much

1407
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 4: worse than anybody thought?

1408
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 9: Well, the thing that I don't know about arch Manning

1409
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 9: is like, you know, he's had three springs under his belt,

1410
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 9: you know, a couple of camps, and he's been there

1411
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 9: a while now, and he looks a little bit like

1412
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 9: the guy we saw in that very first spring game

1413
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 9: that was outplayed by everybody, and everybody's like, where's the

1414
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 9: arm strength? That's white. He played in the garden district

1415
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 9: in New Orleans. He didn't have any real competition. I mean,

1416
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 9: he looks kind of more like that guy right now,

1417
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 9: not saying that that's all he is, but he looks

1418
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 9: a little bit more like that guy than the guy

1419
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 9: we talked about all offseason that's gonna take college football

1420
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 9: by storm and be the next Tim Tebow.

1421
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 5: So it's a surprise.

1422
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 9: And then the whole shoulder injury thing, which the very

1423
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 9: first I heard of that was from Brady Quinn a

1424
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 9: couple of weeks ago, and then Sart got all butt

1425
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 9: heard about it literally in a press conference, said something

1426
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 9: untoward to one of the beat writers who was asking

1427
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 9: a serious, very poignant question, an appropriate question.

1428
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: It's on the score to ask someone if they want

1429
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: to be filmed while they're using the bathroom.

1430
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 5: For I thought it was untoorn.

1431
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 9: I thought it had anything to do with what the

1432
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 9: subject was, Like, is that beat writer supposed to show

1433
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 9: up with a picture of him blowing it out and

1434
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 9: be like, now, tell me, is his shoulders his shouldered bad?

1435
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 5: Like what's going on?

1436
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 9: And you know, I mean, I don't know if Arch

1437
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 9: always threw it like I'm no quarterback guru. I don't

1438
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 9: know if Arch always had like a weird Uncle Rico

1439
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 9: throwing motion, but it looks more like that right now.

1440
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 9: And it's a little bit of an issue, I would

1441
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 9: say for everybody involved in Texas football and Yeah, I

1442
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 9: don't know. I I do see that that was a

1443
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 9: and Sarkisian, you know, and the going to the bathroom thing,

1444
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 9: and you know a lot of people were like, well,

1445
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 9: what do you expect Ohio States got the best defense

1446
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 9: in the history of the world. Well, that's probably an

1447
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 9: overreaction in September, right, Plus, we didn't spend the whole

1448
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 9: damn off season talking about Ohio States defense. We spent

1449
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 9: the whole offseason talking about Arch Manning, Bill Belichick and

1450
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 9: Nico Iamalaiaba, and they all laid an egg early in

1451
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 9: the season. So we'll see. I mean, Arch look fine

1452
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 9: against Monroe or whatever. Who know, they've played somebody on that.

1453
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 9: But you know, those were short passes where the receivers

1454
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 9: got loose.

1455
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: I know, I thought he'd like a slow start at that.

1456
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: By the way.

1457
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I don't know. I mean, I I don't know.

1458
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 9: I think that a lot of us bought We all

1459
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 9: saw him play when he was younger, in that spring

1460
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 9: game and stuff. We all know that he didn't start

1461
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 9: right away. He's been there a while, collecting experience and

1462
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 9: all that. So I think it's very fair to say, hey,

1463
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 9: what is this that you guys made us talk about

1464
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 9: this whole time. This kid is not a world beater.

1465
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 9: John Matteer, Guys like that, the guy in South Carolina.

1466
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 9: A lot of people look better right now than arch Manning.

1467
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: You brought up a John Metteer, and there's one writer,

1468
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: and I forget exactly who it was who said that

1469
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: he thought Oklahoma was a sleeper in the SEC, not

1470
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: to necessarily win the conference, but to make some noise

1471
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: as far as the playoffs go. I don't know how

1472
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: big of a win it was against Michigan. Last year

1473
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: they met a huge average. Okay, well, they seem to

1474
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: be just as average of a Big Ten team as

1475
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 2: they were last season. But it is early on.

1476
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: But I guess for Oklahoma as a program, was that

1477
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: a big win this year?

1478
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1479
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: You think they can make some hay in the SEC

1480
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: this season.

1481
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 9: You get a blue blood like Michigan from a different

1482
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 9: conference to come into your stadium and you win.

1483
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 5: That's a big deal.

1484
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 9: Oklahoma under Venables, I think he's got the ship righted.

1485
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 9: They went and got the new coordinator, they went and

1486
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 9: got Matier. They have Jade not sitting there getting healthy again.

1487
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 9: I guess the transfer from Cow they're paying him a

1488
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 9: lot of money, and they had some other running backs.

1489
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Oklahoma is good.

1490
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 9: I don't know what's going to happen in the Red

1491
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 9: River shootout, but I think Oklahoma has got a much

1492
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 9: better looking team than they did recently. And I think

1493
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 9: the victory over Michigan was significant. You know, they were

1494
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 9: very average last year and USC should have beat them

1495
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 9: in the Big House and blew it because they gave

1496
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 9: up some long runs. So I see Oklahoma as a

1497
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 9: much better team, and that's good because Venables was going

1498
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 9: to be on a hot seat if they had a

1499
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 9: bad start, so they.

1500
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 5: Really needed to beat Michigan.

1501
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: I guess speaking of Michigan, we'll stick in the Big

1502
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: Ten and go to Illinois. I know they're two to

1503
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: oer and haven't really beaten anyone of note yet, but

1504
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: we know the whole sports cliche. It's different when you

1505
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: go from being the hunter to being the hunted. Do

1506
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: you think there's something to that, the idea that you're

1507
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: no longer flying under the radar if you were a

1508
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: school like Illinois that's not a football powerhouse, does it

1509
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: matter to the players that coaches the program? Now you

1510
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: have expectations before you really didn't.

1511
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 9: I mean, I think the expectations are different than they

1512
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 9: would be in Ohio State. Right, Like a lot of

1513
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 9: people Illinois are going to be happy if they just

1514
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 9: win eight games. I mean, that's going to be a

1515
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 9: miraculous season given their recent history Lovey Smith and beyond.

1516
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 9: But when they went out and hired Brett Bilama, they

1517
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 9: hired a real Big ten coach that knows how to

1518
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 9: recruit and win in that part of the world, in

1519
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 9: the Big Ten, and he knows how to make them physical.

1520
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 9: He knows how to make them compete. It took him

1521
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 9: a little bit of a while, but when they made

1522
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 9: that higher, I said, and I don't know what happened

1523
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 9: at Arkansas, but this guy is a great fit in

1524
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 9: that conference. And you could say, well, at Arkansas he

1525
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,480
Speaker 9: was just kind of pulling the same oars with Barry Alvarez,

1526
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 9: and he inherited a great program a lah Lincoln Riley.

1527
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 9: But this would be kind of like if Lincoln Riley

1528
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 9: went to USC and USC was more like UCLA, you know,

1529
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 9: and the pantheon of sports in the area, and turned

1530
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 9: them into a real contender, so to speak, kind of

1531
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 9: like Jim Mora did ten years ago or whatever.

1532
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,839
Speaker 5: So I love the hire of Bilama.

1533
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 9: I thought that Illinois would look great under Bilama eventually,

1534
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 9: and that's where they're at now as far as expectations

1535
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 9: versus reality. You know, are they going to dominate the

1536
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 9: season in the Big Ten? No? But they have a

1537
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 9: favorable schedule and they have a great culture of football

1538
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 9: in Champagne or ban. I mean, that's where Dick Buckis

1539
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 9: and Ray Nichke played. It's a I mean, not to

1540
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 9: mention Mendenhall, but it's a special place for football. At

1541
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 9: least it always has been for me. And I think

1542
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 9: be Lama was just a perfect fit at that place

1543
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 9: when he was hired.

1544
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 5: So I think they are not fools gold. I think

1545
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 5: they're going to have success.

1546
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: Pee.

1547
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 4: I know he's not forty anymore, But is Mike Gundy

1548
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 4: still a man?

1549
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: At least?

1550
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 4: Afterward Oregon did to Oklahoma State, Like, why is he

1551
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: getting into it with Dan Lanning? Why are people targeting Oregon?

1552
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 9: It looks like, well, people say whatever, I mean the

1553
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 9: more egregious one from last year, I mean Organ's number,

1554
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 9: and Mike Gundy's always gotten loose with it and said

1555
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 9: wacky stuff, and you know, he's got his mullet and

1556
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 9: the giant tortoise on his little fiefdom there in still Water.

1557
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 9: He played quarterback there, he coached there. I mean, he's

1558
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 9: not left Stillwater. I mean I think maybe like maybe

1559
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 9: two or three years in his coaching career he was

1560
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 9: with Ralph Frigen at Maryland. But this guy is, you know,

1561
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 9: died in the wool Oklahoma State cowboy. And I don't know,

1562
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 9: if you're Oklahoma State, I don't know how you argue

1563
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 9: with the success that he's sustained over the years, finding

1564
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 9: ways to win football games where they are not like

1565
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 9: the team in Norman and certainly not like the team

1566
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 9: in Oregon. I do not like it when the season

1567
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 9: starts and we're playing games and coaches make comments about

1568
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 9: how much this team's nil is they're on your schedule,

1569
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 9: you know. But these guys also do coaches shows and

1570
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 9: they're talking to a bar full of their own fans,

1571
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 9: and that kind of stuff kind of trickles out. In

1572
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 9: a press conference last year, Jedfish, the Washington coach. Morgan's

1573
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 9: number one rival is Washington and that's a hot contest

1574
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 9: and Washington football ain't Oklahoma State, and Jed Fish said

1575
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 9: something like, well, that's a twenty million dollar team over there.

1576
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 9: It's like, yeah, nobody wants to hear that. Jed, you

1577
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 9: don't get to that's your rival building excuses. Yeah, you

1578
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 9: don't get to make that excuse. Let somebody else make

1579
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 9: it for you. But I don't want to hear the

1580
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 9: head now. Is it prevalent? Of course it's prevalent. But

1581
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 9: do I want to hear the head coaches talking about it?

1582
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 5: No?

1583
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 9: Not when they get paid millions of dollars just to

1584
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 9: say the coach stuff in the season's playing. Support your players,

1585
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 9: support your coaches. Don't talk about how much money everybody's making,

1586
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 9: lest we all talk about how much money you're making.

1587
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the idea that the hypocrisy too is not

1588
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: like they had somebody named Tebooon Pickens who piped in

1589
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 2: millions of dollars at the Oklahoma state program and made

1590
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: them what they basically were under my gunny for all

1591
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: those years.

1592
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 9: That's the part everybody Spider Man pointing at each other,

1593
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 9: and everybody would take Everybody would take Phil Knight's money

1594
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 9: if they had the opportunity, except for Justin Wilcox because

1595
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 9: he couldn't bring his own staff.

1596
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: Feels more like venoms pointing at each other with all

1597
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: this stuff.

1598
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 5: So yeah, well it's kind of gotten that way, hasn't it.

1599
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: It's toxin. Well, since Oklahoma State we're talking about it.

1600
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: Let's stick with the Big Twelve because a lot of

1601
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: people think that the conference is pretty wide open.

1602
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: Utah has looked good early on. Iowa State a team

1603
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: that I like has been good. Baylor got that big

1604
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: win over SMU last weekend.

1605
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: Is there a team in the Big Twelve that you're

1606
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: bullish on here before they really get into a conference play?

1607
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I like you've seen so far that quarterback from

1608
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 9: Utah is a little bit inaccurate. But I like he's

1609
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 9: a wild player Dan Peer, and we had him a

1610
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 9: few times last year with Broncko Mendenhall at New Mexico,

1611
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 9: And you know, Kyle Weddingham knows what he's doing and

1612
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 9: he knows how to build a team, and last year

1613
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 9: I think was uncharacteristic and embarrassing for Utah their first

1614
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 9: year in the Big Twelve. So he's somebody to keep

1615
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 9: an eye on. I love Matt Campbell. I can't believe

1616
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 9: no one else has hired him anywhere else. USC should

1617
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 9: have hired him years ago. And that's my favorite quarterback

1618
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 9: in the Big twelve, Rock Obeck and just their overall

1619
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 9: scheme with their big nickel and that safety that plays

1620
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 9: way back and makes a bunch of tackles. Iowa State

1621
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 9: knows what they're doing and I like them a whole

1622
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 9: lot in the Big Twelve this year. Yeah, I think

1623
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 9: those two would those are the two best quarterbacks in

1624
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 9: my estimation that are going or the two most exciting.

1625
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 9: So we'll see how it plays out from there. But

1626
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 9: as far as a sleeper team in the Big twelve goes,

1627
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 9: and that's not Colorado Houston, Colorado tonight, yeah yeah, I would.

1628
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 5: I would say it's it's the Iowa State Clones.

1629
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 4: Petros Papadek is on the call later today with Trent

1630
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 4: Rush on Fox as they got Air Force visiting the

1631
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,919
Speaker 4: Utah State Aggies. Pee, thanks for coming on FNA on FSR.

1632
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: Thank you guys, fight af Yes, fight on.

1633
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: I was not expecting that, he says it in IRONICUA.

1634
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 3: Thanks salute to the Trojans who have a huge matchup

1635
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 3: on the Big Ten today against Purdue.

1636
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 4: We still got big matchups to talk about in the NFL.

1637
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 4: We haven't got to our beer goggles game, our old

1638
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: Troy game.

1639
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: The NFL six pack moves on. It continues on next to here.

1640
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: FNA on FSR stick around.

1641
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 10: If I could get in a Broadway show, then I

1642
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 10: would have done it all film, television, and theater.

1643
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: Something loves to be Radio that's just for ugly people.

1644
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 4: FNA, COTTONNA, Welcome back in f and A on FSR

1645
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 4: A Madam Moslan, he is Kevin Figures. Remember for the

1646
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,000
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1647
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1648
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1649
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1650
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 4: up until kickoff. For all the best plays and up

1651
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1652
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,639
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1653
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,960
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1654
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: It's right, Adam, Let's get back into our NFL six

1655
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: pack as quickly as we can here. We're probably not

1656
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 3: gonna be able to finish these things, so we'll carry

1657
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 3: it over.

1658
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: To the top of next hour. But let's keep this

1659
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: thing rolling Mark, beer goggles Gay, the beer.

1660
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: Goggles game, the ugly matchup that might actually turn out

1661
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: to be entertaining.

1662
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: Adam, what do you got all right?

1663
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 4: Normally, when you think of the old NFC West sober

1664
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 4: and the forty nine Ers against the Saints, I get

1665
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 4: sick to my stomach thinking of all those regional games

1666
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 4: I was forced to watch up in NorCal as a

1667
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 4: kid when there were better games on nationally, but of

1668
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 4: course no NFL league pass. Then I was at the

1669
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 4: Niners mercy. I was forced to watch all those forty

1670
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 4: nine ers ass whoopings they would put on the division

1671
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 4: horrible till the Panthers got there.

1672
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: Horrible this se year, a quasi hometown team just dominating everybody,

1673
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 3: and you hate it, every second of it, so much

1674
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: so such thing you decided not to be a fan

1675
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: of them.

1676
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 4: This West Coast offense, dissecting all these defenses, I couldn't

1677
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 4: take it. It was kind of like the Pack one

1678
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 4: days with Pete Carroll in USC. The Niners were dominant

1679
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: in that old NFC West. There was a stretch from

1680
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 4: ninety one to ninety nine where the Saints went two

1681
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 4: and fourteen against the forty nine ers.

1682
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: They were running out quarterbacks like.

1683
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 4: Steve Walsh, Heath Schuler, Billy Joe Hobert, Billy Joe Tolliver,

1684
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 4: Danny Warfol and Sunday it will be Spencer Rattler. A

1685
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 4: Rattler hasn't looked this shook since Eric Dickerson brought out

1686
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: the Crossman Pella gun gun that he told us about

1687
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 4: on Rogan and Rodney earlier this week on Football Monday

1688
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 4: on a five to seventy like, I could see things

1689
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 4: getting wacky though for some reason, because the forty nine

1690
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 4: ers are without Rock Party, I could see things going

1691
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 4: sideways like this game sober. You may think it's an

1692
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: easy win for the Niners even without Rock Party, because

1693
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: the Saints might be the worst team in the league.

1694
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 4: But with beer goggles on, I can see the Saints

1695
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: hanging around against mac Jones and maybe even get a win.

1696
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 4: Because I'm not drinking a mac Jones soda here. I

1697
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 4: got my beer goggles on. I'm thinking differently than when

1698
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: I initially saw this game with clear eyes.

1699
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: You know we actually agree on this one.

1700
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 3: Really, Yes, this is my beer goggles game as well,

1701
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 3: for many of the same reasons. I will say Kyle

1702
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: Shanahan has had success, for lack of a better term,

1703
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: cast off for quarterbacks who don't have the highest of expectations.

1704
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: Rock Party's one of them, who was a seventh round

1705
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 2: draft pick.

1706
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 3: Nick Mullens had a run there a few years ago

1707
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: where he had a couple of good starts when Jimmy

1708
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 3: Garoppolo got hurt. So and look, mac Jones was the

1709
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: guy that the forty nine ers loved reportedly before they

1710
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 3: took Trey Lance, before everything flipped on its head, like

1711
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 3: the day of the draft.

1712
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 2: That's right, everybody was talking about mac Jones going to

1713
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. Well that's why they trade up, right, Yeah,

1714
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: Well now he's finally here. So if this is what

1715
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: they're looking for, now you have them. To your point.

1716
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: Injuries up and down the roster for the forty nine ers.

1717
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: For the Saints, they have skill position guys who are good.

1718
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 3: Alva Kamaraz lost a step, but Alave Shaheed Cooks are

1719
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 3: good receivers. You just don't know what to expect from

1720
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 3: the quarterback position.

1721
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: It's SENC.

1722
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 3: Rattler, But for some reason, I'm kind of with you.

1723
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: I think this game has a chance to get a

1724
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: little wacky. Now, I don't think it's gonna go over

1725
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: the forty and a half points spread. I don't know

1726
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: if I'd go that crazy, but I do think he

1727
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: could be fairly entertaining, you know, twenty one seventeen type games,

1728
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 3: something like that.

1729
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 4: And the Saints weren't that bad opening week, They're at home,

1730
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 4: they played well. I think they can keep it close

1731
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 4: against the Niners offense that may be suppressed a little

1732
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 4: bit without Rock Perdy. Who knows how long CMC the

1733
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 4: Factory is going to be up and running with Christian McCaffrey,

1734
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 4: I love him, one of my favorites ever, former Carolina Panther.

1735
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 4: But I do kind of feel like this is one

1736
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 4: of those games where I wouldn't mess around with this one.

1737
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: If we're talking two on two off, which we will

1738
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 4: get to a little bit later with our picks. Brie,

1739
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 4: I know is happy about this, Brie. It took us

1740
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 4: putting on the beer goggles to like your Saints in

1741
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,919
Speaker 4: a matchup that may not happen very often this season,

1742
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: but with them taking on the Niners. As Kevin mentioned,

1743
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 4: with all the health issues going on, we were.

1744
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 11: Juwan Johnson touchdown away from actually winning or tying the

1745
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 11: Cardinals last week. So let's chill on the Saints being

1746
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 11: the worst team. They were like hanging around just saying, well, if.

1747
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 4: The Cardinals are the second worst team, you know you

1748
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 4: don't know that yet, shake out.

1749
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 3: I think we all know that the Panthers and Saints

1750
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 3: are on a track for the first and second pick

1751
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: in the draft.

1752
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: Wait a second, yes.

1753
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 5: I mean, am I wrong?

1754
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? The Raiders are one to oer and

1755
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: Kevin's got a little Winders are going straight straight for

1756
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: seven and ten. That is a low blow. That is

1757
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 2: a low blow on a guy who's struggling, hurting, missing

1758
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: practice all week long, working his ass off to try

1759
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: to make sure that he plays and helps his team

1760
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: win on Monday. That's uncalled for, Brie.

1761
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 4: You know, I forgot. Did you have the Raiders winning

1762
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 4: the AFC West or is it the team they're playing

1763
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 4: this week that you have winning the.

1764
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,919
Speaker 3: Chargers winning the AFC West? And I will not vacillate

1765
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: off of that prediction. And I will say so far

1766
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 3: through one game, and one game sample size is all

1767
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: you need.

1768
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 2: Why are we even play the rest of the season.

1769
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: I'll give you this.

1770
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 4: It feels like there's a little bit of culture there,

1771
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: because not only do you have a new head coach,

1772
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 4: you paired him with his old quarterback in Geno Smith.

1773
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 4: So there's a little bit more continuity than you would

1774
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 4: expect with all the turnover going on with the Raiders.

1775
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: I agree one thousand percent.

1776
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: And look, first of all, the bar was low to

1777
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: begin with, So yes, they're setting a culture. They do

1778
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 3: want to turn things around quickly and have an expectation

1779
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 3: to win. They're just not going to compete for the

1780
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: division this year. It's not going to happen overnight. That

1781
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 3: division is way too tough. We still have many categories

1782
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: to get to here on the NFL six pack. We

1783
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 3: will continue that at the top of next hour FNA

1784
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Speaker 3: on FSR.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Final hour of Fox Football Saturday with F and A.

1787
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 3: You can find me at KFIG one on x you

1788
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: can find Adam at Follow Adam A.

1789
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: Coming up in just a little bit, we'll talk about

1790
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: trash talk in sports, your garbage a little.

1791
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's actually pretty tame compared to some

1792
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: things I've heard throughout the years. Yeah, so some trash

1793
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 3: talk sometimes when it pay often guys are able to

1794
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: back up. And sometimes I feel like almost most of

1795
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 3: the time, guys talk a little bit of trash, pop

1796
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: off at the mouth and they have to end up

1797
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: eating their words.

1798
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it blows up in their face somehow. But we

1799
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 4: still got our NFL six pack with three more categories

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: to go, including this one, our Oh Troy potential matchup missed.

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01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh try, I'm so sorry.

1802
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 4: So that occurred back in twenty sixteen, an old man

1803
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 4: breaking his cane and screaming over the fact Blair Walsh

1804
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 4: missed a twenty six yard field goal that would have

1805
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 4: won the Vikings a wild card game against the Seahawks.

1806
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: Correct.

1807
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 3: So in this category the Old Troy Potential, what player

1808
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: coach team has the potential for an epic fail this

1809
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 3: coming weekend?

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: Adam, you want to start here, Kevin, I'll start now.

1811
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 3: I'll actually go with Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburg Steeler

1812
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: offense against Seattle. Everyone's going crazy over Pittsburgh and their

1813
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: offense and how good they looked against the Jets last week,

1814
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 3: and rightfully, so I'll say this, like I said last week, Adam,

1815
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: all Aaron Rodgers needs to do is be good. He

1816
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be Superman anymore. He has the talent

1817
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 3: around him. Hopefully they're able to run the ball a

1818
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 3: little bit, and I think they can be a legitimate

1819
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: contender in the AFC North if he just plays competent football.

1820
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 3: And he did more than that, I would say last

1821
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: weekend throwing four touchdown passes. So I don't think last

1822
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: week was necessarily a fluke, and I think the Steeler

1823
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 3: offense does have a high ceiling. But one thing that

1824
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: we also talked about last week was the fact that

1825
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: Seattle has a really young, really fast, really talented defense,

1826
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: and that showed itself against San Francisco last week. They

1827
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: were in it until the very end, and again the

1828
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 3: rock Party short hail Mary pass in the back of

1829
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 3: the end zone to the backup tight end Tongs, who

1830
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: made a great play on the ball. No disrespect there,

1831
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: but it wasn't as if brock Party did anything magical.

1832
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: He really just threw the ball up for grabs and

1833
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Ton just went up and got it. Now, they were

1834
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: very fortunate. Seattle could have easily won that game.

1835
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: I know they allowed over three hundred and eighty yards

1836
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: of total offense, but they held firm in the red zone.

1837
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 3: Forced a couple of turnovers and we're on the field

1838
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 3: for nearly forty minutes. Wow, that tells you all bat

1839
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 3: the Seattle offense was last week. The Steelers are down

1840
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: three defensive starters this week, including Joey Porter Junior, which

1841
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: means that Jackson Smith and Jigbuck can get off again

1842
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: like he did this past week. Had over one hundred

1843
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: and thirty yards receiving. So just a decent performance and

1844
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 3: a couple of sustained drives by the Seattle offense means

1845
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 3: that defense is fresher and not on the field as long.

1846
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: So I believe this game will be closer than a

1847
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: lot of people think. And I think that Steeler offense

1848
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: is not going to move up and down the field

1849
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 3: and rack up over thirty points like they did last week,

1850
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 3: not this weekend at least.

1851
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: All right, I got some old Troy potential for.

1852
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 5: You, Oh Troy, I'm so sorry. God.

1853
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 4: As much as I was killing John Harbaugh earlier, that's

1854
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 4: equal to how bad I think the Browns may get

1855
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 4: killed by an angry Ravens team that John Harbaugh engineered

1856
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: a Week one four up, fifteen to four minutes left

1857
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 4: against the Bills. Yes, the Browns have the former Ravens

1858
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 4: quarterback in Joe Flacco, on the road, back in his

1859
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 4: old stomping grounds. But it will be the Browns getting

1860
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: curved stomped, maybe in historic fashion. Their worst loss in

1861
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 4: franchise history is actually only by forty eight.

1862
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: They lost to the Jaguars by forty eight back in

1863
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: the year two thousand.

1864
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the Ravens are going to win big

1865
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 4: because they used to be the Browns and there's an

1866
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: AFC North rivalry. I'm saying it's because they are by

1867
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 4: far the superior team and are out to avenge and

1868
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: old Troy epic collapse that they had the week before

1869
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 4: Sunday Night against the Bills. They aren't just trying to

1870
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 4: win a game. They are trying to get back a

1871
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: game they gave away last week. And the Browns will

1872
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 4: be at their mercy. Browns fans, you might not want

1873
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: to wait till the second quarter to turn this game off.

1874
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 4: Just pretend it's a bye.

1875
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: Week for them and they aren't even playing Sunday because

1876
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland is getting rocked by the Ravens. I think, really

1877
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: that's a big one. That's a big no. No, it's

1878
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: not wrong.

1879
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: That's also a really big points spread, by the way,

1880
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 3: I think at last check on Bett MGM, it was

1881
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 3: at eleven and a half.

1882
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's big. Yeah, that's that's a big line. But

1883
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 2: they agree with me. Old Troy potential is there. Yeah,

1884
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: it makes sense, It makes all the sense in the world.

1885
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: What do we have next, mark under the microscope?

1886
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: Yes, the game where player everyone should watch closely this

1887
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: weekend and I am going to go with Justin Fields

1888
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: against those Buffalo Bills. One thing, one thing I respect

1889
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: about Jets fans. They don't get too high or too

1890
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: low because they've seen too much. They've seen too much.

1891
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: As Victor brick Jacobs would say, schlock at the quarterback

1892
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 2: the Jets fan at the quarterback position throughout the years

1893
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: to get too hyped up about one week performance by

1894
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:45,879
Speaker 2: Justin Fields.

1895
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 3: So a lot of national pundits were going crazy over

1896
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: how we looked. And he looked good, no, no disrespect,

1897
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: he looked very, very good. The new offensive court and

1898
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 3: they're out there. Tanner Engstron from the Lions has done

1899
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 3: a great job so far.

1900
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson, hold onto that ball, huh yeah, I know.

1901
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey hits you pretty hard, but you're getting paid

1902
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 4: a lot. You're a great receiver. Hold on, gotta get

1903
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 4: those hands man.

1904
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: I will say this the problem with Justin Fields that

1905
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,440
Speaker 3: has played him throughout his career, he's inconsistency.

1906
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: You know, he can look I don't.

1907
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 3: Think he's ever looked great, but he's one of those

1908
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 3: what separates I guess, a backup quarterback from just a

1909
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 3: decent starter as someone who can be average to above

1910
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: average more often than not, and too often for Justin

1911
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 3: Fields it is below average average good, below average, below

1912
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 3: average average, and you just don't know what you're gonna

1913
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: get on.

1914
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: A week two week basis.

1915
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: One thing I do like about the offense based on

1916
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 3: what they did last week against Pittsburgh, is they tailored

1917
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 3: around his skill set. They did a lot of RPO stuff.

1918
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: He had a lot of easy reads in the passing game.

1919
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 3: So similar to Jalen Hurts, if they formulate the offense

1920
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 3: around his individual talents, I think the Jets can actually

1921
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 3: do pretty well. So I am intrigued as to how

1922
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 3: that Jets' offense is gonna look now going up against

1923
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills defense that, as we mentioned, got shredded

1924
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 3: pretty much up and down the field on Sunday night.

1925
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: The offense was able to just kind of build them

1926
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 3: out towards the end. And oh, by the way, Ed

1927
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 3: Oliver as a Friday not as listed as doubtful or

1928
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: possibly even out. Now he might have been downgraded to out,

1929
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: but it's unlikely that Ed Oliver is gonna play. He's

1930
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 3: one of Buffalo's best defensive players. And again, they gave

1931
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 3: up a lot of points to Baltimore last week. So

1932
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 3: I am intrigued to see how Justin Fields follows up

1933
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: his epic performance against the Steelers last weekend with a

1934
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: matchup against Buffalo this weekend.

1935
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.

1936
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 4: Under the microscope pick, I'm going with Ben Johnson heading

1937
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 4: back to Detroit bear's hat in hand after they blew

1938
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 4: a seventeen to six lead on Monday night in the

1939
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, which was weird because everyone on X was saying,

1940
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is fine. Now, I believe our friend Jason

1941
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 4: Smith was. People were killing JJ McCarthy, Colin Cowherd was

1942
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 4: going after him.

1943
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: The script flipped. Can we let these guys get through

1944
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 2: a full game in the regular season.

1945
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams get off one series, that's scripted for him

1946
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 3: at the beginning, and then we can start judging.

1947
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 4: Them script merchant, that's what they were saying about him.

1948
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: We don't need to reach any conclusions this quickly. Like

1949
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 4: the race to be first with hot takes is a

1950
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 4: sad one and often leaves the rest of us driving

1951
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: past the car wreckage from those prisoners of the moment. Well,

1952
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 4: we're on a more reasonable route to sports analysis here,

1953
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 4: Like how I think it's reasonable to criticize a new

1954
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 4: head coach known for outsmarting the competition back when he

1955
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 4: was an OC, not realizing he could have saved forty

1956
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 4: seconds at the end of that game if he just

1957
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 4: had his kicker kick it out of bounds instead of

1958
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 4: letting the Vikings take it out of the end zone

1959
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 4: and therefore reaching and going past the two minute warning.

1960
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, Kevin O'Connell looked at his return

1961
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 3: and told him, come out, don't take a knee. I

1962
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: don't care how deep that ball is in.

1963
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: The end zone. The clock is our friend. Let those

1964
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: precious seconds tick off. I think KOC might be the

1965
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: best head coach coach in the NFL currently. He's in

1966
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: the upper echelon for sure.

1967
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 4: We'll see this is a big season another young quarterback.

1968
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 4: If they make the playoffs again like they've had the

1969
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 4: last couple of seasons. They're over under for wins was

1970
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 4: like eight, and they shot way above that with him.

1971
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 5: Now.

1972
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 4: I said this for Dion with Colorado recently, these coaches

1973
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 4: continue to prove they can't manage the clock. Ben Johnson,

1974
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 4: you could have had forty seven seconds left down three

1975
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: to get into field goal range had you just kicked

1976
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 4: it out of bounds. Do not risk your kicker not

1977
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 4: having the leg to kick it out the back of

1978
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 4: the end zone. It's the difference of five yards. Who

1979
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 4: cares about them getting in at the thirty five or

1980
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 4: the forty. The time is the enemy.

1981
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 3: Field position doesn't matter because if you don't it doesn't matter.

1982
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 3: If if you don't stop them way backed up or

1983
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: across midfield, you got to get a stop regardless.

1984
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 4: He took a lot of blame post game, rightfully, So

1985
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 4: I got him under the microscope because he has a

1986
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 4: lot more responsibility now as a head coach compared to

1987
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 4: being the OCE and Caleb Williams started the game ten

1988
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 4: for ten. As you mentioned, a lot of scripted plays

1989
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 4: in there, he struggled later on improvising They're in Detroit

1990
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 4: against a Lions team that got thoroughly dominated by the

1991
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Packers week one. Who has the advantage the Lions knowing

1992
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson's tendencies or Ben Johnson knowing Dan Campbell and

1993
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 4: his replacement at OC who wasn't there with the Lions

1994
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 4: though last season. As you brought up earlier, I think

1995
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 4: the advantage goes actually to the Packers and Viking, honestly,

1996
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 4: because I'm convinced that the Bears and Lions are the

1997
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 4: two lesser teams in the NFC North.

1998
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: So who's playing for third places? What you're saying, is

1999
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: this game there, Adam?

2000
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, as Larry Bird once said, who's going for second

2001
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 4: in this three point contest?

2002
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: I like it?

2003
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 4: All right, there's my under the microscope, but we've still.

2004
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 2: Got redemption route.

2005
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 3: Yes, the teamer player looking to bounce back from last week,

2006
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 3: I am going to go with the Cincinnati Bengals offense now.

2007
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: Last week on two on two off I said that

2008
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 3: I thought the Browns would cover the spread and Joe

2009
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 3: Flacco would hit the over on two hundred and forty

2010
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 3: four yards, passing check mark on both of those I

2011
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 3: got both of those right.

2012
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: It was a great call by you, Kevin Kenn. I

2013
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: messed up where it mattered, though.

2014
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 3: What I was woefully wrong when I took the over

2015
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: on the total, assuming that both offenses was a light

2016
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 3: up the scoreboard and take advantage of the opposing defense.

2017
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 2: It was actually the exact opposite. They malfunctioned in the

2018
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: and the red zone a little bit. It turned into

2019
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: a defensive battle.

2020
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 5: Though.

2021
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: That is true.

2022
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: And there was an interesting stat that I saw earlier

2023
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 3: this week, and I could not track it down for

2024
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:36,560
Speaker 3: the life of me, even though I looked for it.

2025
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: But basically, dating back to.

2026
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's rookie year, his statistical production is significantly worse

2027
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 3: in weeks one and two than it is for the

2028
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: remainder of the season. Why that is, I have no idea,

2029
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 3: But he's been in the league long enough to where

2030
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,919
Speaker 3: you can say this is a trend, it's not an anomaly.

2031
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 3: For some reason, Joe Burrow gets off to very slow

2032
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 3: starts individually recurring pattern. Yeah, and by the way, not

2033
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 3: surprisingly so do the Cincinnati Bengals as a team. Now,

2034
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: the Jaguars are not necessarily a juggernaut defensively, I know

2035
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 3: they held your Panthers to ten points, but come on,

2036
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 3: come on, how dare you Alabama can hold the Panthers

2037
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: are ten points?

2038
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 8: Right?

2039
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, We're not doing this Alabama.

2040
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 3: This versions of Alabama with Kaitlyn de Boor can hold them. No,

2041
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 3: I'm joking out you see, stop that right now. Obviously

2042
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 3: that's not true. But the Jags look better on defense

2043
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 3: this year, I will say that. So this week for

2044
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is gonna be really big. This is gonna

2045
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 3: be key to see if he can book the trend

2046
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 3: and get this Bengals offense off the ground and actually

2047
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: get them playing better against it. Improved but far from

2048
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: domin the Jacksonville Jaguar defense.

2049
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: Can they do it? I don't know, but.

2050
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see how Cincinnati comes out and see

2051
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,520
Speaker 3: if they can break this trend of starting slowly offensively

2052
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 3: in the first couple of games of the season. So

2053
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 3: that's who looking to redeem themselves this week, the Cincinnati

2054
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 3: Bengals offense.

2055
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 4: All right, my redemption round pick. You know, last week

2056
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 4: I told you all about Danny Dimes. I didn't just

2057
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 4: say redemption week. I really stuck my neck out there

2058
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,879
Speaker 4: and said redemption season, and it was a nice start

2059
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 4: by Daniel Jones against the Fins this week. I actually

2060
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 4: think the team he beat in the Miami Dolphins, redeems themselves.

2061
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 4: Not necessarily Tyreek Kill as a person, he might be

2062
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 4: irredeemable with all these new allegations now too, But the

2063
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 4: Dolphins team I think responds on the field after loosening

2064
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 4: to the Colts thirty three to eight.

2065
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 3: I mean, you better you had a players only meeting

2066
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 3: after week one. It doesn't get more rock bottom than that.

2067
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: I have never heard of.

2068
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: That happening in the history of sports, that any team

2069
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: has a player's only closed door meeting after one week.

2070
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 4: What's worse, it happens in a preseason game, like how

2071
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 4: does now their host and the Patriots? The Dolphins are Patriots,

2072
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 4: lost to your Raiders at home. I still believe in

2073
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel in his offense.

2074
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: You are the few remaining there.

2075
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 4: I know he's an innovator, and I think as long

2076
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 4: as he has toua they can still be dangerous. But

2077
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 4: I do worry about the fact that the Dolphin no

2078
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 4: longer where there's a helmet on the logo for the

2079
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 4: Dolphins when you have a quarterback who's been through so

2080
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: many concussions, seems like it should be safety first over there.

2081
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 4: I never liked the new Cyber Dolphin logo. I just

2082
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 4: wanted to get that out there. But I seriously do

2083
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 4: worry about too. I'm not sure he should be playing anymore.

2084
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 4: But ultimately it's his decision.

2085
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: I would say it's safety first.

2086
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 3: The onus and the responsibility falls on Chris Greer and

2087
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 3: McDaniel to make sure that they have an offensive line

2088
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 3: that could protect their quarterback who's been taking a lot

2089
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: of shots over the last couple of years. Good point,

2090
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 3: and he was running for his life from the opening

2091
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 3: snap last week.

2092
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 2: That's the issue.

2093
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 3: So Tua, unfortunately, who's a talented player, and when things

2094
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 3: are working, I think he's a well above average NFL quarterback.

2095
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 3: He's a good starting NFL quarterback. But he needs to

2096
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 3: have some time. It's a protection like anybody does.

2097
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 2: One of the more accurate modern quarterbacks.

2098
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 3: He just hasn't had time, and they have not invested

2099
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 3: well or drafted well in the offensive line, and they

2100
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 3: got thoroughly dominated up front last week. Now the Patriots

2101
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 3: on beaters on the d line. This is not the

2102
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: you know the you know Patriots of the two thousands.

2103
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 3: But the problem, Seymore's not walking through that door.

2104
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 2: No he's not.

2105
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 3: But I still, I still don't feel feel optimistic about

2106
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 3: this Miami Dolphin offense. It is not because of Tyreek

2107
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 3: Hill or Jalen Waddle or even Tua. I just don't

2108
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 3: think they're good enough up front fair They just aren't.

2109
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 4: But they're my redemption team this week. I'm rooting for Tua.

2110
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for the Dolphins to have some success and

2111
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 4: bounce back this weekend at home against the Patriots. Mostly,

2112
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 4: I'm rooting.

2113
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: For me to be right here and look like a

2114
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: genius when everybody's counting the Dolphins out. That's what's really

2115
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: about zig When everyone else eggs, I understand it. I

2116
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: understand it.

2117
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 3: So that is that will wrap up the NFL six

2118
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,520
Speaker 3: pack here on fn A on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next. Trash talkers.

2120
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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you feel about trash talkers and professional

2121
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: sports or college sports, any sport.

2122
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 2: Really?

2123
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 3: Sometimes they talk trash and it pays offense. Sometimes it

2124
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 3: comes back and bites him in the butt.

2125
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: Puts your foot in your mouth when you can't back

2126
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 4: it up right and checked you can't cash.

2127
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Speaker 2: That's it up next here on FNA on FSR.

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Speaker 12: Please talk to me, please FNA Cotton, Yes, welcome back,

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Speaker 12: Kevin Figures Adam alson Fox Football Saturday with the guys

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Speaker 12: at kfig one is where you can find me.

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Speaker 2: On next you can find Adam at Follow Adam A and.

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Speaker 3: three hours right up until kickoff. For all of the

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Speaker 4: It's FDA on FSR. And we got Mike in Tucson

2142
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Speaker 4: calling in.

2143
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Speaker 2: Oh no doubt, celebrating the huge victory last night for

2144
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Arizona over Kansas State.

2145
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 13: You guys, so se Bengos well his close start, he

2146
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 13: has the best weapons. Jamar ches there. There's there's no

2147
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 13: ex kiss for it, but I can talk about my raiders.

2148
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Speaker 2: Bro.

2149
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Speaker 8: Oh Okay, everyone loves the Broncos, and I feel like

2150
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 8: bo Nicks is going to have a sophomore swamp. I

2151
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 8: could see it, just like Daniels in the AFC West.

2152
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 8: But everyone loves the Broncos harders. No one gets as

2153
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 8: credit and.

2154
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Speaker 13: I think that was a good win. That was a

2155
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 13: good win, but they still say we'll finish for place,

2156
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 13: and I just hate that we don't get no credit.

2157
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 13: To think your Daddy's Raiders from from the past. We're

2158
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 13: building something, we have a good coach, and I just

2159
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 13: want to what do you guys think about this? And like,

2160
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 13: we get no credit, no love for the It's tough,

2161
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 13: but I think Bo Nixon is going to struggle. I

2162
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 13: saw the game last week. He did not look good.

2163
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 2: Em I could see that happening.

2164
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 4: But the Raiders are in a prove it situation just

2165
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,759
Speaker 4: because the division is so tough and they've had roster turnover.

2166
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have an uphill client because the other three

2167
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 3: teams in the division have a little bit more of

2168
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: a head start than the two them do. So it's

2169
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: not as if like I'm a Raider fan, I'm as

2170
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 3: optimistic as you are, Mike. And look, I love the

2171
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 3: victory last week against the Patriots, the fact that they

2172
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 3: were not able to run the ball at all with

2173
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 3: Ashton Gentz, and they were really able to put the

2174
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 3: game on the shoulders of Gino Smith and he was

2175
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 3: able to come through and make some big throws and

2176
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 3: through for over three hundred and sixty yards. Now, the

2177
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 3: problem is you can do that against the Patriots, who

2178
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: are one of the worst teams in the NFL. I

2179
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 3: don't know if it's sustainable all year long to ride

2180
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 3: the arm or the shoulder of Geno Smith and not

2181
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 3: have that run game work out. So I'm hopeful that

2182
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 3: it improves, and I think the Raiders will be improved

2183
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 3: this year. The problem is as they rise from the bottom,

2184
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: the teams above them, I think have also taken a

2185
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 3: next step up too. So even if Boennicks has a

2186
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 3: sophomore slump, individually, that Bronco defense is a beast, and

2187
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 3: I think their run game is going to be improved

2188
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 3: this year too. So I think the Bronco team is

2189
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: better than the Raiders as a team, and I think

2190
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 3: those teams are going to be fighting it out for

2191
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 3: number three in the AFC West.

2192
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 2: I still think this is a Charger Chief Division this year.

2193
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 4: I think it's a great point to point out that

2194
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 4: the d by the way, yeah my good phone call,

2195
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 4: incrementally could take a step forward.

2196
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 5: But if the.

2197
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 4: Teams around them are doing the same thing, you know

2198
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 4: you're still in that same spot where you could finish

2199
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 4: last in the division.

2200
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Raiders still have questions up front of their

2201
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: defensive line. Not having Christian Wilkins, who they cut loose

2202
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 3: with the injury issue, is a big loss because he

2203
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 3: and Max Crosby were pretty much the two stalwarts.

2204
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:25,799
Speaker 2: So their D line is not very strong.

2205
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 3: Revamped their entire defensive secondary and classic Pete Carroll fashion

2206
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of cast offs. Devin White was a guy

2207
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 3: who bounced around, hadn't played well in a couple of years.

2208
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 3: He had a great game last week. Jamal Adams came

2209
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 3: out of I don't even know. I don't know if

2210
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 3: he was officially retired or not, but Jamal Adams came

2211
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 3: back converted from safety to the linebacker, had a great

2212
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,640
Speaker 3: training camp and has played well early on in the

2213
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 3: first week. So I think the Raiders things are trending

2214
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 3: up for them. The problem is they're trending up in

2215
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 3: a division that is also trending up near the top.

2216
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 5: Now.

2217
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 4: The Raiders are known for being the bad boys, especially

2218
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 4: under the late great Al Davis. They were known to

2219
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 4: talk some trash and people talking back to them.

2220
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,440
Speaker 2: The Raiders suck unnecessary.

2221
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 4: This week we had a little smacktop though, Kenna.

2222
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we talked about the Cleveland Browns taking on

2223
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Baltimore Ravens and a revenge game for Baltimore

2224
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 3: after what happened this past weekend. And Grant Delpit, good

2225
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 3: defensive back for Cleveland, had an interesting quote when he

2226
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 3: was asked about taking on Derrick Henry and this Baltimore

2227
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 3: Ravens run game.

2228
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Not harm I mean we were going back that we

2229
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: saw it last year. You obviously weren't afraid in that

2230
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 2: first matchup to take him on, you know, So where's

2231
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: that company at the mindseton playing football? Man, it's tackle football.

2232
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Somebody got the buy you got to bring him down.

2233
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 3: So if you didn't hear the question that was posed

2234
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 3: to him, they said how hard? How difficult is it

2235
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 3: to tackle Derrick Henry? And Grand delp It said not

2236
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 3: hard at all. Yeah, this is our job.

2237
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 5: Now.

2238
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 4: I would have been like, I don't know, is it

2239
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 4: tough to take down Thanos?

2240
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:55,959
Speaker 2: Yes, very exactly.

2241
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 5: So.

2242
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,839
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry was told about his quote, and Derek Kinner's

2243
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 3: response was he had a quote, We'll see what happens

2244
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

2245
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 2: Oh boy. So And now, as trash talk goes, this

2246
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 2: is probably a little bit more on the tamer side.

2247
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: But obviously Derrek Henry one of the harder running backs

2248
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: in the NFL the time.

2249
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he's bigger than linebackers. I mean, it's ridiculous

2250
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 3: how huge the guy.

2251
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 4: Is well, and the way he is moving his feet

2252
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 4: and going laterally still at the age of what thirty one,

2253
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 4: maybe at this point still has juice in his legs.

2254
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 4: He still has wiggle out there. When you see the

2255
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,799
Speaker 4: overhead camera that they show up there on the zip line,

2256
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 4: and you really see the speed in that overhead Madden

2257
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 4: view of how quickly he is moving. Guys have no

2258
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 4: chance against him unless he fumbles the football and completely

2259
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 4: turns the game in the bills favor.

2260
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that, which is why I think he's gonna

2261
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 3: have a big game this weekend too, because he shouldered

2262
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 3: all of the blame by the way, which he shouldn't,

2263
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 3: but he shouldered all on the blame after that loss.

2264
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 4: I still think hardball should have went for it on

2265
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 4: fourth and three. Have Lamar Jack and Derrick Henry. I'm

2266
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 4: gonna try to finish the game off right now, because

2267
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 4: if you don't get that fourth and three, there's at

2268
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 4: least a better chance you get the ball back with

2269
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 4: some time. If you hold them to not getting a

2270
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 4: first down and they kicked the field goal, then.

2271
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 2: I trust my two time MVP and my what three

2272
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 2: time rushing champion or whatever it is, who just failed

2273
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 2: short of two thousand yards rushing last year and your

2274
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 2: defense was getting shredded.

2275
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: To be able to make a play and just know

2276
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 3: how the game flow is going. But the back and

2277
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,719
Speaker 3: forth between Delpit and Derek Henry got us to thinking

2278
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 3: about trash talk and professional football, or excuse me, just

2279
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 3: professional sports in general over the years, and as certain

2280
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 3: occasions where guys have kind of popped off at the mouth,

2281
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 3: and there may be occasions were paid off and they

2282
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 3: lived up to what they were talking about, and oftentimes

2283
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 3: they pop off of the mouth and they what is

2284
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 3: the old.

2285
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 2: Saying, you write a check that your butt can't cash.

2286
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 4: I got a guy, okay, who was able to write

2287
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 4: all the checks in the world because he always backed

2288
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 4: it up. I may be biased, but you tell me

2289
01:42:56,160 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 4: a situation he didn't back it up. Steve Smith Senior.

2290
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 4: I'm looking at twenty thirteen, a Monday night game Panthers

2291
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 4: versus the Patriots.

2292
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: He and a keep to leb.

2293
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 4: Are getting into it, and I mean the entire game.

2294
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 4: You go back and watch the highlights. They are going

2295
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 4: back and forth the entire time. A keep to Leeb

2296
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 4: had a fifteen yard penalty for unnecessary roughness early on

2297
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 4: from holding on to Steve Smith's leg way after the whistle.

2298
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 4: They were pushing and shoving and throwing hands and punches.

2299
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 4: Watch the YouTube video. Trust me, this was a battle,

2300
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 4: but Steve Smith eventually won it. His team also won

2301
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 4: the game. It wasn't just him winning the individual battle.

2302
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 4: You might remember this. You probably do remember. There was

2303
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 4: a flag in the end zone as the Patriots were

2304
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,759
Speaker 4: on a final drive with Tom Brady down by four,

2305
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 4: and the referees picked up the flag. Tom Brady gave

2306
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 4: them an earfull after you could hear on the evil

2307
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 4: four letter microphone. This was a memorable Monday night game,

2308
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 4: but the best miked up guy in the game, of course,

2309
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 4: was Steve Smith Senior post game saying this what.

2310
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 2: Happened between you and to leave on the field early

2311
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 2: in the game.

2312
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 5: Oh no, you go ahead, so him because he had

2313
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 5: to finished the game.

2314
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 2: Ice up, son, I suck ice up, son, ice up,

2315
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 2: I keep to leave went out at some point. He

2316
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: had some soreness going on. I don't know, but Steve

2317
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 2: Smith let him hear.

2318
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 4: At Fallos game he got the best of them, Panthers

2319
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 4: won the ball game. He backed up the talk and

2320
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 4: there was trash talk leading into it, during it and

2321
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 4: then afterwards there you heard it.

2322
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 2: That was amazing. They had some phenomenal battles those two

2323
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: top son ice up. So did you keep to leave

2324
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 2: in a Michael.

2325
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 3: Crabtree, Oh yeah, and Michael Crabtree and Richard Shermans Michael

2326
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:48,799
Speaker 3: Crabtree out in the middle level with everybody.

2327
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 4: You wear a necklace like that, people are going to

2328
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 4: try to take it from you.

2329
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 3: He was a raider at that point when he got

2330
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 3: his chain. Yank Al Davis would not have stood for that.

2331
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 2: That was a low moment there really was.

2332
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to the two thousand and four NFC Wildcard

2333
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 3: game at the Frozen tundra in Green Bay. Now it

2334
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 3: wasn't quite frozen, but it was very cold. Seattle was

2335
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 3: taking on the Green Bay Packers. The game goes into overtime,

2336
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 3: so they walked to midfield.

2337
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:13,959
Speaker 2: With the captains.

2338
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 3: There's a coin toss and as the coin is in

2339
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 3: the air, or I should say after it hits the ground,

2340
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 3: Seattle wins the coin toss and their starting quarterback at

2341
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 3: the time is Matt Hasselback, and the referee says, you

2342
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 3: want the toss. What do you choose to do? Matt

2343
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 3: Hasselbeck says, quote, we want the ball and we're going

2344
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 3: to score. So Seattle gets the ball first on the

2345
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 3: very first snap of overtime. He drops back, throws the

2346
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 3: ball towards the right side line. Al Harris of the

2347
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 3: the fenceive back for the Green Bad Packers, jumps in

2348
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: front of it, runs to the end zone, picks six,

2349
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 3: game over Packers advance.

2350
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 2: Was it really the first passing through?

2351
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 3: It was the first pass It was a first snap, Oh,

2352
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 3: the first snap of overtime.

2353
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 2: I totally forgot about this. Yes, Matt back, We're gonna

2354
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 2: get the ball and we're gonna score.

2355
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 4: To this day, already lost his hair he would have

2356
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 4: lost it.

2357
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 2: After this game.

2358
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 3: To this day, Matt hassebi gets asked about it and

2359
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 3: he will never be able to live that down. Well,

2360
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 3: that is one of the prime examples of shooting yourself

2361
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 3: from the foot, all right.

2362
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 4: To be fair, Seattle did eventually get to a Super

2363
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 4: Bowl with Matt And I'm going to reference that two

2364
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 4: thousand and six Super Bowl game between the Seahawks and

2365
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers. Why because there was a lot of trash

2366
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 4: talk between a tight end named Jeremy Stevens and a linebacker.

2367
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 2: Forgot about Jeremy Stevens dat a reality star or something.

2368
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 2: Hope so Low. Oh well, she might as well have

2369
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: been become a reality star after being a great athlete.

2370
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 4: Sure, the Wikipedia page of things that went on with

2371
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 4: them it is lengthy. There is a real rap sheet

2372
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: between them. But before any of that stuff.

2373
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 3: For Hope Sola more for some of her antics than

2374
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:03,959
Speaker 3: the fact that she was a great goalie.

2375
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens wasn't ascending tight end at the time. He's

2376
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 4: coming off a very good season, but he put his

2377
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 4: foot in his mouth when he kind of guaranteed victory

2378
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 4: for the Seattle Seahawks, leading up to the ballgame because

2379
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:24,520
Speaker 4: they were asking him about Jerome bettis you know, storybook

2380
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 4: ending it could be for his career if he wins

2381
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.

2382
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: Here Detroit, in his hometown. Yep.

2383
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens goes, Yeah, it's a heartwarming story and all that,

2384
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 4: but it will be a sad day when he leaves

2385
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 4: without the trophy. Well, a linebacker Joey Porter mess with,

2386
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 4: who was very outspoken back then. He got into that

2387
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 4: and the fact that Jeremy Stevens was talking about their

2388
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: offensive line and how they'll be able to block Joey Porter.

2389
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 4: That also didn't work out too well for him. Joey

2390
01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 4: Porter responded by calling him so soft. Quote, he's too

2391
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:03,520
Speaker 4: soft to say.

2392
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 2: Something like that. He's gonna have an opportunity to back

2393
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: up his words. I'm gonna have an opportunity.

2394
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,799
Speaker 4: To back up my words. So it's something I'm looking

2395
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 4: forward to and I'm ready to get going.

2396
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So who backed well.

2397
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 4: While Jeremy Stevens did catch a wide open I think

2398
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 4: touchdown pass and had three catches, he also had three

2399
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 4: drops and Joey Porter was a monster in that game.

2400
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: So are the referees. Seattle Seahawk fans won't forget about

2401
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: that part of it. Steve Hutchinson tripping, phantom tripping penalty call.

2402
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Joey Porter calling him soft a first round

2403
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 4: bus and his Huckleberry, I don't know if that's a

2404
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 4: reference to Tombstone.

2405
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm your huckleberry. Maybe whatever.

2406
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 4: He got the best of Jeremy Stevens after he heard basically, oh, Seattle, Yeah,

2407
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,759
Speaker 4: we're gonna win this because Jerome Bettis is not going

2408
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 4: out with the storybook ending, and Joe Porter and.

2409
01:48:58,479 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers made him eat those.

2410
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 3: Where Yeah, the bus absolutely went out with the storybook ending.

2411
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 2: So thank you Jeremy Stevens for the bulletin board material.

2412
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: And maybe you know this is one case where bad

2413
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 2: things happen to bad people. If you look up Jeremy Stevens,

2414
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 2: it's rough man. It did not go well. His career

2415
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 2: went downhill, his life in some ways, I don't know.

2416
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 2: I okay.

2417
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 3: So for my next one, I'm going to go to

2418
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 3: a college football game that the NCAA would have you

2419
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 3: to have, you know, never happened. This going to the

2420
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 3: USC's two thousand and five rolls and excuse me not

2421
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the National Championship game back

2422
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 3: in the BCS era, where yes USC took on Oklahoma,

2423
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,759
Speaker 3: and leading up to the game, there was a reserve

2424
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 3: defensive end for Oklahoma named Larry Birdine, and he was

2425
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 3: asked about the challenges that the USC offense will present

2426
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma's defense.

2427
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 2: He says, quote, I.

2428
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 3: Feel like they're kind of like a one and a

2429
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 3: half man team. Besides Reggie Bush, who's great and he's fast,

2430
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 3: he makes plays or whatever, nobody else stands out to me.

2431
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 3: Matt Lionard is overrated and didn't really deserve the Heisman Trophy.

2432
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 3: Reggie should have gotten it anyway, So fast forward to

2433
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 3: the game. Reggie had a good game, a great yeah,

2434
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and toty yards like sixty yards receiving and

2435
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 3: thirty yards rushing something like that, or thirty five yards rushing.

2436
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 2: I remember Norm Chow had a good game.

2437
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the nobody's like Lyndale White, had one hundred yards

2438
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 3: rushing and two touchdowns. Steve Smith the other Steve Smith,

2439
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 3: not Steve Smith Senior, but this is the other Steve

2440
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Smith who eventually went to the Giants and won a

2441
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:30,719
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

2442
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: Dwayne Jarrett. Each of them over one hundred yards receiving for.

2443
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 3: USC and that overrated Matt Liner who never should have

2444
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 3: won the Heisman Trophy three hundred and thirty yards passing

2445
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 3: five touchdowns, no interceptions, and what was I believe a

2446
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:47,440
Speaker 3: fifty five to nineteen drubbing of USC over Oklahoma.

2447
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 4: I distinctly remember Matt Lionard afterwards being interviewed and saying,

2448
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 4: there can be no doubt, there can be no doubt,

2449
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 4: and he was referring to Auburn went undefeated that year, right, yes,

2450
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 4: and so some people were obviously criticizing the BCS the

2451
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 4: final matchup, rightfully, So whoever wins this game, should they

2452
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 4: really be the national championship? And because they spanked them

2453
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 4: like that, Matt Lioner was like, there can be no

2454
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 4: doubt we're the best teams.

2455
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 3: No, there can be, there can be, and that's why

2456
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,799
Speaker 3: we needed to play Williams. Oh I asked Candillac Williams,

2457
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 3: Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown, all those guys on that team.

2458
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 2: Back then, you go undefeated in the SEC.

2459
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 3: The SEC, granted, is not then what it is now,

2460
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 3: though it was still a great conference. There's no justification

2461
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 3: for a major power conference team like that to not

2462
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 3: have a chance to compete for a national championship. So

2463
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 3: even though at that point in time I was a

2464
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 3: USC honk big time USC Homer wanted them to win,

2465
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 3: there was still something inside of me that felt a

2466
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 3: little ichy about the fact that Auburn went undefeated and

2467
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 3: didn't have a chance. By the way, Auburn does claim

2468
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 3: a national championship that year, the fact they were defeated,

2469
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 3: they believe they do.

2470
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 4: Okay, well, there can at least be no doubt that

2471
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 4: USC was the much better team compared to Oklahoma.

2472
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 3: But the game never happened, Addams, So what are we

2473
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 3: talking about? Stricken from the record books? Bowl will never happen,

2474
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 3: there's no national championship?

2475
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 5: What is it?

2476
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 2: Men in black? The neuralizer exactly, the neuralized memory wiper,

2477
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 2: erase it completely from your memory. So, Larry Birdine, I

2478
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 2: guess you know it actually never happened. So maybe you're

2479
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 2: right the man in black? All right, Bret, what do

2480
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 2: you got here?

2481
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 4: Notable trash talking in sports history that you can't forget about?

2482
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 11: Okay, well, obviously, Kobe, I think that's just like a

2483
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 11: natural obviously, like learning a whole different language, should like

2484
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 11: talk to Tony Parker like French. He learned French specifically

2485
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 11: to talk trash to him, and he learned Slovenian to

2486
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 11: talk trash to Luca.

2487
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 2: That is a good pool by you. I totally forgot

2488
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 2: about it, did you really?

2489
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: Yes?

2490
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, that was huge. Kobe was diabolical like that.

2491
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 5: You can do better.

2492
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 2: You can't do much better than that, ri Ip Kobe.

2493
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 11: Bryant, and then obviously Kevin Garnett and uh, you know,

2494
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 11: we'll just go uh, you know, serial marriage, all that

2495
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 11: stuff you can't get over.

2496
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett's like little shot at Anthony Peeler in a

2497
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 3: playoff game years ago, go, oh, you walked off and

2498
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 3: did this little half fast shove in the chest and

2499
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 3: Anthony Peeler just hauled back and knocked the crap out

2500
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 3: of him.

2501
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like you had that coming, KG, right, Yes,

2502
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 2: Cavi Guard was with the Timberwolves. Anthony Peeler was with

2503
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 2: the Kings at the time.

2504
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 4: And that was in game six. There would be a

2505
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 4: game seven. Anthony Peeler was suspended for that Game seven.

2506
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 4: It hurt Sacramento honestly in the long run. But speaking

2507
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 4: of KG, the stuff he said leading up to that

2508
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 4: game seven.

2509
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm bringing the bazookaka. Yeah, got a couple of aks.

2510
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 2: And then Brad Miller of the Sacramento Kings, who was

2511
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 2: a hunter, was like, I got my bow and arrow,

2512
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 2: my my Swiss army knife. Yeah it was.

2513
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 4: It was, you know, different sides of the tracks, you

2514
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 4: could say between those two guys, just the overheaded in

2515
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:47,839
Speaker 4: the same direction.

2516
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: I guess in some senses, I guess career wise, Kevin

2517
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,560
Speaker 3: Grant headed to the Hall of Fame with the championship

2518
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 3: in bread.

2519
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I didn't mean to go that far. Minnesota

2520
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,959
Speaker 4: did win that game seven over the Kings. The Seawet

2521
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: had a three porter that went in and out and

2522
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:04,719
Speaker 4: people talk trash to me after.

2523
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:05,719
Speaker 2: That, So that sounds familiar.

2524
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 3: See Web in a big game, Hey balls ro ramming out,

2525
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 3: calling timeouts that don't exist, you know, things of that nature.

2526
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 4: Someone was telling him to call that time out. Didn't

2527
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 4: you see the FAB five documentary thirty for thirty I did?

2528
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 2: How dare you? It's fn A on FSR.

2529
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 3: It's time for us to take a time out when

2530
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 3: we come back on the other side.

2531
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Two on, two off, two lines that are correct in

2532
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:27,799
Speaker 2: the NFL. This weekend.

2533
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 3: Two lines that are way off in the NFL. We'll

2534
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 3: talk about that coming up next as we wrap things up.

2535
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 3: The FNA on FSR, Fox Sports or i should say

2536
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 3: Fox Football Saturday.

2537
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: Stick around, So let's people say serve for FNA, Cottonna.

2538
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 4: It is FNA on FSR. Final segment here for you

2539
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 4: on this three hour edition. I've done six of these now.

2540
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,200
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2541
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2544
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2545
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Speaker 2: Rate it five stars and you can even provide a review. Again.

2546
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Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2547
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Speaker 4: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we

2548
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 4: get off the air in about five minutes.

2549
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 2: Here, all right, let's get to him Mark time now

2550
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 2: for you don't know what you're talking about.

2551
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 5: Two on.

2552
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: Two, Josh Outside, all right, four games in the NFL

2553
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 2: this weekend. Two lines, two favorites that we like, two

2554
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 2: underdogs that we like. You want to get us started

2555
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: at him, So by my counting, Breeze, we both went

2556
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 2: two and two last week. Yes, we're dead even now.

2557
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 2: You know what I like to do.

2558
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 4: I give each of my cats two choices to pick

2559
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 4: for favorites, because they will not pick and choose underdogs.

2560
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 4: They don't like dogs for whatever reasons, for whatever reason.

2561
01:55:53,640 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 4: So my cat Tuca took the Ravens minus twelve against

2562
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 4: the Browns at home.

2563
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I had eleven and a half, so I

2564
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 3: got the the extra half point.

2565
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 4: Can I do eleven and a half instead of twelve?

2566
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 2: I got every line.

2567
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm going off of bet MGM, which right now has

2568
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 3: it at eleven and a half.

2569
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: Fine, eleven and a half. I'd prefer that. So then

2570
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 2: if they get twelve, they win by twelve. I win, right,

2571
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 2: Tuca wins?

2572
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 4: I mean, of course it's all two of course, yes,

2573
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 4: and Shadow for her favorite pick, she is one pick.

2574
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 4: The underdog took the Lions minus six and a half

2575
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 4: over the Bears. What do you got for your favorites, Kevin?

2576
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 3: I actually agree with your cat the eleven and a

2577
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 3: half over Cleveland. I think this is a redemption for

2578
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens. I know Cleveland played well last week

2579
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 3: against Cincinnati. I think that was a fluke. I think

2580
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 3: Baltimore roles in this game. That's a lot of points

2581
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 3: to lay in an NFL game. Eleven and a half,

2582
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 3: twelve points. That's how confident I am that the Baltimore

2583
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna roll all over the Cleveland Browns, I guarantee.

2584
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 3: So that's one of my ONWNS. My other on is

2585
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 3: the Chargers minus three and a half against the Raiders.

2586
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 3: Good after by the Raiders in New England last week, obviously,

2587
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers had a phenomenal win justin Herbert big time.

2588
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to call it a

2589
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 2: coming out party.

2590
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 3: We know how good he is, but really put it

2591
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 3: on display against they're defending AFC champions.

2592
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 2: I do think, yes, this is BS. No, oh, you

2593
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 2: think this is one of those reverse psychology things you're hedging.

2594
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you win either way. If the Raiders

2595
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 2: beat them or cover, you're like, hey, I'm feeling good.

2596
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 2: And if they don't, you at least met correctly.

2597
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 3: No, I want my record to be immaculate here on

2598
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 3: two on to off. With all due respect at him,

2599
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 3: I want to kick your ass when it comes to

2600
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 3: these picks. Fair enough, so I want it so badly

2601
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 3: that I'm willing to pick against my team for that purpose.

2602
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 3: So this game will be close, but I do think

2603
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers end up winning by more than three. So

2604
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 3: the three and a half's points spread, I'm going to

2605
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 3: take the Chargers in this one.

2606
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: Lord knows I should have picked against the Panthers last

2607
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: week instead of picking on them to cover as a dog.

2608
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 2: You picked with your heart, No I didn't. My heart

2609
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 2: is filled with hate for those pants. Feel the conflict

2610
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 2: with then you let go of your hate. I'm not

2611
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 2: picking him this week. Okay, my two picks for my

2612
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 2: two offs off of the favorite. So I'm picking underdogs here.

2613
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 4: You know, while I have Buffalo going to the super Bowl,

2614
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 4: they haven't fared well on the road in New Jersey,

2615
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 4: as I mentioned earlier against the Jets. The last two years,

2616
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 4: they're one and two. Josh Allen has struggled, and I.

2617
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Was impressed with Justin Fields.

2618
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 4: I know you got him under the microscope, but he

2619
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 4: looked pretty good against the Steelers defense that I think

2620
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 4: is not always going to be giving up thirty points

2621
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 4: in a ball game, and they're getting six points at

2622
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 4: home against the Bills. I'm taking those points. I'm taking

2623
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 4: the Jets plus six. They can keep it inside of

2624
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 4: a touchdown.

2625
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I can see that. That's not insane.

2626
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 4: But but you're taking something else, you're going somewhere else.

2627
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm going somewhere else. I'm going to Tennessee. My off

2628
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 3: the Rams. That's five and a half point favorites over Tennessee.

2629
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 3: I talked about this a little bit earlier that this

2630
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 3: could be a trap game for La. LA is the

2631
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 3: better team.

2632
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: They know they're the better team, and they have the

2633
01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: Eagles on the horizon next week.

2634
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 3: He has trap game written all over it. I do

2635
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 3: think the Rams will win, but five and a half

2636
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 3: points is a little rich for me at them thinking

2637
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 3: closer to a three point spread here.

2638
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: So I got that one as an off. I have the.

2639
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 4: Exact same call here, Kevin, I guarantee it. I also

2640
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 4: am taking the Titans plus five and a half points.

2641
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 4: You know they were getting eight last week against Denver.

2642
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 4: They lost by eight.

2643
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 2: These boys and these handicappers know what they're doing.

2644
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 4: But I like them plus five and a half at home.

2645
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 4: Maybe Calvin Ridley catches the football and helps out his

2646
01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 4: Rookie Quarterback Award.

2647
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 2: That would be nice. Veteran Cavin Ridley. He says, you

2648
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 2: have something to prove this year. You got one more

2649
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: dog here other off Kansas City plus one over the Eagles,

2650
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 2: which essentially means his game is a pick them and

2651
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 2: it should not be. Oh, because you tell me what's

2652
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 2: different between Kansas City and the Philadelphia Eagles since the

2653
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl earlier this year.

2654
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 5: Not much?

2655
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 8: Uh.

2656
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 3: The Kansas City Chiefs uh. Still can't stop the run,

2657
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 3: which is what the Eagles do pretty well. And they

2658
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 3: almost got worse against the pass, at least in that

2659
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 3: first game against the Chargers.

2660
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 2: They did.

2661
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 3: And the Eagles defensive line, though they lost a couple

2662
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 3: of pass rushers, can still get after it. So I

2663
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 3: think the Eagles should be favored in this game. I

2664
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 3: think the Eagles win this game. They should be favored

2665
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 3: by three.

2666
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 2: On the road. They're getting a point. Yeah, the Kansas

2667
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 2: City Chiefs are actually favored by a point right now. Wow,

2668
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 2: good pick by you the odds.

2669
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 3: So that one is definitely an off. So that is

2670
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 3: two on two off, and that is FNA on FSR

2671
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 3: for this week. Thanks Debris, thanks to market, Thanks to

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02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 3: you guys for listening. Project nil coming up next here

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02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 3: on FSR