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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. People are gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you this is a huge time in the NBA

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Speaker 1: because we got Lebron out here. Opting out might take

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Speaker 1: less money, might help with roster construction. We got Paul

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Speaker 2: But the real question is who cares.

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Speaker 1: This isn't ten years ago, this isn't five years ago.

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Speaker 1: These are moments for names for brands, but do they

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason fitz hanging out with my guy Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you y'all, like I've worked with some tall

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Speaker 1: people in my life. I'm gonna be honest. I've been

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Speaker 1: around a lot of athletes in my life. I will

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Speaker 1: never forget the first time I ever walked in the

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Speaker 1: halls and I saw Ryan Hollins at esp We're both

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Speaker 1: at the ESPN at the time. I saw Hollins walking

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Speaker 1: up and down the halls, and I just said, you're tall, man,

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Speaker 1: because I realized that. I was like, I'm used, I'm

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Speaker 1: five to nine. I'm used to being a little guy. Hollins.

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Speaker 1: I think I was facing your belly button. Brother. It

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Speaker 1: is good to hang out with you today, my friend.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, man, it's been too long, brother, it

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Speaker 3: is is life good? Everything good? They're everything good, man,

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Speaker 3: No complaints over here.

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Speaker 1: See. I am excited because if for anyone that doesn't know,

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Speaker 1: we've worked together for a long time. We did First

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Speaker 1: Take together, We've done all of that stuff together. And

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Speaker 1: I was excited today to talk to you, specifically for

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Speaker 1: the next three hours because I'm sitting in my car

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Speaker 1: yesterday going to the gym because I'm getting all yoked,

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Speaker 1: and I listened to everybody talking about, you know, oh,

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Speaker 1: Lebron's opting out, Paul George is opting out, and there's

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Speaker 1: logic behind all of it. But I just sat here

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Speaker 1: and thought, man, it feels a lot like when people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Tiger's and the Masters, it's not the same Lebron, it's

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Speaker 1: not the same Paul George, Like these are sure they

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Speaker 1: could be impactful moves. But these aren't champion ship moments anymore.

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Speaker 1: What am I missing?

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing with Lebron opting out and why it

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel the same, because you're getting to that moment

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Speaker 3: that Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan never got to. And

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Speaker 3: the moment I'm talking about is where Lebron has played

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Speaker 3: long enough at a high enough level where he's saying,

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to get my Tim duncan on. I want

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and take less money so that I

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Speaker 3: can come in and get a star and build it

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Speaker 3: the right way, because you know what, as constructed as is,

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Speaker 3: with me making the money that I make, I have

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Speaker 3: to leave something on the table for somebody else. If

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Speaker 3: I really want to win, and I've got another thought

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Speaker 3: behind that, I can bring it up now, or do

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Speaker 3: you want to wait till we get to me give

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Speaker 3: me your thoughts. I want to know how you feel

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Speaker 3: about this. And this is not coming from any information

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Speaker 3: or any soul. This is this is my This is

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Speaker 3: am throwing it out there just as me and Lebron

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Speaker 3: are around the same age both fathers. We get it

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Speaker 3: and I think there's a level too. Well. Lebron is

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Speaker 3: looking to the Lakers, and I don't know if there

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Speaker 3: was a handshake deal before or whatever, but he's extremely

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Speaker 3: grateful and he's saying, hey, you drafted my son. It

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Speaker 3: made sense, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna assume it.

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Speaker 3: I'm very grateful. And because I'm grateful, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a move. Because you have made a

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Speaker 3: move that's in the best interest of me and my family,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a move that's the best interest of yours.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take less money and i'm gonna sign back.

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Speaker 3: You gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to draft

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Speaker 3: my son, So what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you that this move about bringing my

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Speaker 1: I love where you're coming from from this, And I

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Speaker 1: think it's why we have to parse this conversation about

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Speaker 1: care about that, right, But I do think that there's

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Speaker 1: really about championships.

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Speaker 2: And this is what I've been screaming since all of

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Speaker 1: Like JJ Reddick and a draft in Bronni, this roster

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but they've always been about winning championships.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not gonna say that Lebron taking less money

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything Paul George. We've heard with Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: that will put the Lakers in some conversations. That'd be

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Speaker 3: Guys don't like me and Paul George. We play every

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Speaker 3: it out somewhere else that I'm And I did this

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Speaker 3: oh oh, I'd say that. They say, look at Russell

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Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook sides with the Clippers. Right. I don't know

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Speaker 3: they got to find a way to make money work

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Speaker 3: You know, in the off season his dad was at

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Speaker 3: the steam fits is what you're saying. Correct, Like you

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Speaker 3: gonna say it absolves all fitsy to answer what you said,

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Speaker 3: and say, all right, Lebron serious about winning. If you

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Speaker 3: when we had the hot dog eating context contest, remember that,

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Speaker 3: was like, no, let's say you do it. Put your

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Speaker 1: He's Ryan holland Tim Jason Fitzer hanging out on Fox Sports, right,

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Speaker 1: And you're right about that, Like you're right about and

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Speaker 3: As in what's the most you moved? If you moved

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Speaker 1: And I always said when I was living on a

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's different. I was privileged. I was privileged, okay,

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Speaker 1: Paul George is opting out. The question isn't what that

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Speaker 2: Does it actually lead to championships.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, I forgot how to talk. He's Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 3: is the NBA is training back to the NBA that

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Speaker 3: we know where the big man was dominant, and not

431
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Speaker 3: just was the big man dominant. We talked about Nicola

432
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Speaker 3: Yokich winning the NBA Championship. The skill level means something.

433
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Speaker 3: So everybody like kind of got rid of their point

434
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Speaker 3: guards and was like, we'll just put our best player

435
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Speaker 3: at point guard and he'll take a bunch of shots

436
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Speaker 3: and we'll figure it out. Now the NBA is going back.

437
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Speaker 3: We need a Fred van Vliet. We need a traditional

438
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Speaker 3: point guard. And not just do we need a traditional

439
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Speaker 3: point guard, we need our guys to have some IQ

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Speaker 3: and hold on, how my heck is you junior? The

441
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Speaker 3: guys who are playing well have IQ. Hey, they've stayed

442
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: in college Hey, they've earned their stripes. So there's just

443
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Speaker 3: it's a different NBA, and essentially you got to look

444
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Speaker 3: for that. So as teams are going into the draft

445
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Speaker 3: and their roster that we're either putting their rosters together.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, can you guys play basketball? Not just can

447
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Speaker 3: you're tall shoot at three and play some defense. You

448
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Speaker 3: gotta have some IQ.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're saying for everybody listening. That's an NFL nut.

450
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Speaker 1: We see this in the National Football League all the time.

451
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Speaker 1: Offense is spread out, and then defenses figure out how

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Speaker 1: to stop a spread offense. So then one team will

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Speaker 1: come in and say, oh, we're going to run the

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Speaker 1: ball more, and then immediately, all of a sudden, everybody

455
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Speaker 1: starts running the ball more, and then that starts to work.

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Speaker 1: So then offenses spread out. Like there's this cycle of

457
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Speaker 1: is if this is what's working and we can't do

458
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Speaker 1: it that way, then let's do it our way. That

459
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Speaker 1: eventually becomes copied. It's one of the most interesting thing

460
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Speaker 1: in all of sports. We're gonna keep breaking it down

461
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Speaker 1: because I want to get Holland sat He said something

462
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Speaker 1: about culture and championships. We're going to talk about that next.

463
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Speaker 1: But first let's get caught up on all of the

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Speaker 1: news from the day with Isaac.

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Speaker 6: So, what's this about you and Holland's having a hot

466
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Speaker 6: dog eating contest back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's true.

468
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Speaker 2: It's true.

469
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Speaker 3: I love don't embarrass me. Fifty doesn't know how you've

470
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Speaker 3: attacked me.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let me catch you up on the inherent

472
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Speaker 6: tension between me and Ryan. It all started when I

473
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Speaker 6: ripped Houston's what a burger, which is literally what you

474
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Speaker 6: say when they serve you in in contrast to the

475
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Speaker 6: most superior local burger in the world in and out

476
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Speaker 6: here in southern California. And the tension escalated from there.

477
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Speaker 6: So I'm sorry we have to catch you in the

478
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Speaker 6: middle of this fits. But wait a minute, it's so

479
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Speaker 6: cool because when I hear hot dog eating contest, I

480
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Speaker 6: think the pros Klledbayashi Joey chestnuts. So you guys actually

481
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Speaker 6: got to compete in a hot dog eating contest? Was

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Speaker 6: it enjoyable?

483
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Speaker 1: Would you call it enjoyable?

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Speaker 3: That's why I was losing. I tried to enjoy my

485
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Speaker 3: hot dog. I was like, hey, hey, I didn't know, like,

486
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Speaker 3: I'm like putting Allie, Sean and Mustard It's like I'm

487
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Speaker 3: taking a time with it.

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Speaker 7: No, I was watching those things, just just stuffing these

489
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Speaker 7: things down like Kobe Yashi Joey Chestnut. Now you know

490
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Speaker 7: I'm out there, Give me some lemonade.

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Speaker 2: See see.

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, that's the way to approach a hot

493
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Speaker 6: dog eating contest. If you're going to get free hot dogs,

494
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Speaker 6: you've got to enjoy the experience. Just forget about winning.

495
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Speaker 6: Just enjoy getting free hot dogs. It'd be kind of

496
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Speaker 6: like Ryan, if you were competing in the Tour de France.

497
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Speaker 6: Everyone else will be sprinting through the Pyrenees and the Alps,

498
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Speaker 6: and you just be enjoying the countryside.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, pretty much, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: That's the way to do it. Ryan was much better,

502
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Speaker 6: of course, competitively in the NBA. And that's where we

503
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Speaker 6: start Fells because multiple outlets report it overnight, the Chicago

504
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Speaker 6: Bulls forward Patrick Williams has agreed to a five year,

505
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Speaker 6: ninety million dollar extension in Major League Baseball. On Saturday night,

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Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Dodgers scored seven runs on the top

507
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Speaker 6: of the eleventh to when it's San Francisco fourteen to

508
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Speaker 6: seven Angels over the Tigers. Intenanting six to five, the

509
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Speaker 6: Angels on a six game winning streak. Finally, guys. Scary

510
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Speaker 6: story because earlier Saturday, eleven people were injured at Milwaukee's

511
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Speaker 6: American Family Field after the Brewers lost to the Cubs

512
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Speaker 6: when an escalator malfunctioned. Five were treated at the ballpark.

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Speaker 6: Six were taken to the hospitals in the area with

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Speaker 6: non life threatening injuries. Now I'm going to read you

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Speaker 6: a description of what happened from a person who is

516
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Speaker 6: on the escalator, Greg Braggs Junior. He tweeted, and I quote,

517
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Speaker 6: it completely gave way with over one hundred people on it,

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Speaker 6: Probably the scariest thing that's ever happened to me. The

519
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Speaker 6: whole thing gave way and just turned into a roller

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Speaker 6: coaster off the tracks, piling people on top of each

521
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Speaker 6: other as it charged us all to the bottom. Some

522
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Speaker 6: elderly people were injured very badly and trampled over. An

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Speaker 6: older lady was right in front of me, so I

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Speaker 6: tried to hold her up as we hit the bottom,

525
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Speaker 6: and we both got completely taken out by the people

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Speaker 6: behind us. There was no one working there that monitors

527
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Speaker 6: the escalator and only allowing a proper amount of people

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Speaker 6: on it at one time, way too much weight. It

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Speaker 6: just gave way. It's not a mall escalator that is

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Speaker 6: one floor. It's longer and steeper than that. Unquote. Next time,

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Speaker 6: I think I'll just take the stairs back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, now that you've ruined escalators for everybody, I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: that's just I hope everybody turns out to be okay.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a terrible story. In an absolute night

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Speaker 1: mes scenario, it's Fox Sports Radio Sunday, Ryan Hollands, Jason

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Speaker 1: Fits hanging out with you. We're coming up. We're with you,

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Speaker 1: I should say, on the tirak dot com studios. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we competed in a hot dog eating contest. Also, you know,

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Speaker 1: not for nothing. I was a sideline reporter for the

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Speaker 1: hot Dog Eating Contest on the ESPN for three years,

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Speaker 1: so I very familiar with this. Isaac and Hollands. I

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Speaker 1: will make you both very mad now though, when I

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Speaker 1: will remind you that both what a Burger and in

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Speaker 1: our In and Out would be at the top of

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Speaker 1: my list for the two most overrated chains in all

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Speaker 1: the world. That is just fact.

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Speaker 6: I don't reach thure that microphone and grab you in

548
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Speaker 6: my anger and rage to be fair, to be fair.

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Speaker 8: Even here in Los Angeles, I've heard people around this

550
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Speaker 8: building saying that Tommy's is better than In and.

551
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Speaker 1: Out, Wendy's is better than In and Out.

552
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Speaker 8: What do we do now that's too far?

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Speaker 1: In and Out is I'm sorry, unless In and Out

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Speaker 1: as a sponsor of the show, in which case, In

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Speaker 1: and Out is the best burger I've ever had, because,

556
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Speaker 1: let's face it, I'm a company man. I'll bet every

557
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Speaker 1: time we were like, so, you know, when things are

558
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Speaker 1: going well and you're in a band, you get to

559
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Speaker 1: do some things in La.

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Speaker 2: You get a lot of TV in La. Every time

561
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Speaker 2: we would.

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Speaker 1: Land in La, immediately the guys on the tour, which

563
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Speaker 1: just oh my god, we gotta go to In and Out,

564
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Speaker 1: gotta go to in and Out, And I just I

565
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Speaker 1: had it, and I was like, y'all, it's just a burger.

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Speaker 1: Like you can tell me all day that they grow

567
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Speaker 1: their own stuff and this is all super fresh.

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Speaker 2: It just tastes like a burger. It's fine, like animal

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Speaker 2: style is fine.

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Speaker 1: The Frieser the Frieser could but like, there is no

571
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Speaker 1: reason that I would sit in line for in and

572
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: Out and in and out is wildly overrated, but so

573
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Speaker 1: is whatburger because what burger is essentially trash.

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Speaker 6: Mister Burger elitist. Therefore, what would you consider to be

575
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Speaker 6: a good burger then, mister burger burger hipster.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I'm a burger hipster. That's that's a fantastic title.

577
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Speaker 1: I'm all in on five guys being better than any

578
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Speaker 1: of those. Uh five guys. Better fries, my god, it's

579
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Speaker 1: better burger, betterfries. But again, I like, if you give

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Speaker 1: me the choice between any of those and Wendy's, I

581
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Speaker 1: don't think there's a discernible difference. I honestly believe that

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Speaker 1: if you took so. I was at a party a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago with a bunch of beer drinkers

584
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Speaker 1: and they were all convinced that they knew the exact

585
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: difference between their favorite bud light, corps like Miller Lite,

586
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Speaker 1: all of those things. So, because I'm a troll, while

587
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: everybody else was, you know, playing beer pong, I just

588
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: sat there and I filled the cups randomly across the

589
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Speaker 1: board and I gave it everybody like whatever it was

590
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Speaker 1: four or five beers and red solo cups in front

591
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Speaker 1: of them, and I asked everybody to identify could they

592
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Speaker 1: identify each of the beers or could they identify their

593
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Speaker 1: favorite beer? And we're talking about guys that have spent

594
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Speaker 1: their life drinking these beers. Only one guy even got

595
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Speaker 1: his favorite beer out of all of it, right, you

596
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Speaker 1: can't tell the difference. I think if you honestly took

597
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Speaker 1: the meat and you crumbled it up, and you put

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Speaker 1: it on a plate and said here, eat this, and

599
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Speaker 1: tried to get people to figure out which one was

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Speaker 1: in and out, which one was five guys, and which

601
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Speaker 1: one was Wendy's, nobody would know the difference. It's the

602
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Speaker 1: shape that people care about.

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Speaker 3: I think I know.

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Speaker 8: For me, it's the thousand taking you up on this offer?

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Speaker 3: Now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I know. But I'm

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Speaker 3: it's a thousand island. I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean thousand island dressing is a reason to wait

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Speaker 1: for an hour for something.

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Speaker 3: No means different? Oh the thousand dollars different.

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Speaker 8: Wendy's ain't putting thousand island on their burgers.

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Speaker 3: You want to hear you want to hear a real

612
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Speaker 3: fat boy thing. I hope I don't offend anyway. We

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Speaker 3: would fit real fat boy thing. Uh. We talked about

614
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Speaker 3: our hot dog eating contests. I when you go to

615
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Speaker 3: In and Out, ask for extra packets a thousand Island

616
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Speaker 3: and then throw it on your burger.

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Speaker 8: Damn right, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Just like, get a jar a thousand Island, put it

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Speaker 1: in the car, go to Wendy's. You go through the

620
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Speaker 1: drive through, pour some thousand Island on A.

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Speaker 6: And eight thousand Island in and out. It's special sauce.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, the other difference you can get

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Speaker 6: the same meal at all the other places. The five

624
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Speaker 6: guys for a burger and fries will set you back

625
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Speaker 6: like twenty eight bucks, is all I'm saying.

626
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Speaker 1: Okay, we weren't talking about a cost analysis on this,

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Speaker 1: like I mean talking about cost analysis. That's a totally

628
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Speaker 1: different thing. Like you know, but look, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think people that are super passionate and I'll say, you

630
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Speaker 1: asked which one I think is better? I think it's

631
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Speaker 1: five guys. Would I wait in line for five guys?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think there's a big difference between

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Speaker 1: any of them. Shake Shack, you can put all of

635
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Speaker 1: your burgers in here. They're all basically the same.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, FITZI, you want to merge our hot dog

637
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: eating our hot dog contest. Then with with the with

638
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Speaker 3: with ILO's degeneracy. When it comes to the picking his place.

639
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Speaker 3: In college, you guys were like this. I would go

640
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Speaker 3: to In and Out, I'd get fries, I'd get a drink,

641
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Speaker 3: and then I'd order two four by fours.

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Speaker 8: Nice, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: You go.

644
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Speaker 3: Let that. Let it sink in the amount that is.

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Speaker 1: I'm I respect that, I respect like I'm not even

646
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Speaker 1: mad at that.

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Speaker 2: I respect. And you eat all that in one sitting, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one citty, I finished it. That's it. That's that out. Ay,

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Speaker 3: Ilo remembers I was boned, skinny boned, skinny, right, two

650
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen pounds.

651
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Speaker 6: Gotta make weight, Hollands.

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Speaker 8: Now, I've got a very important question for Ryan, for Isaac,

653
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Speaker 8: and for Jason.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 8: Have any of you experienced what is called cookout?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cookouts are all over the South, like for twenty years,

657
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: cookouts are everywhere there there. You know, it's like basically cookouts.

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Speaker 1: This is I'm just gonna make people mad, that's all

659
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing today. Cookouts like a glorified burger king. Everything

660
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: is like, right off, it's got that. I knew you

661
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: would say that, but it's got that.

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Speaker 8: Like doesn't allow you to get a corn dog as

663
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Speaker 8: a side item.

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Speaker 1: Oh, which is which is okay? Corn dogs are not

665
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: a side like. I win, I win to gojo about this.

666
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Corn dogs are not a side item.

667
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 1: There is no world where a hot dog dipped in

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Speaker 1: a massive batter is a side I don't care if

670
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: cookout has it on the menu as a side item.

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00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: That's that is just that is wrong.

672
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: And and by the way, if you're gonna have a

673
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: corn dog, let's go West Coast here, go to a

674
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Speaker 1: hot dog on a stick and get a cheese dog

675
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: where it's just a massive block of either uh, pepper

676
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: jack or American and and they dip it in this

677
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: really sweet corn dog batter, so it comes out just

678
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: like a corn dog, but when you bite into it,

679
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: it is simply filled with massive amounts of melted cheese.

680
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: It's not a it's not cheese stick. It's better than that.

681
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Go with the hot dog on a stick.

682
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not a side item. That's that

683
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: corn dogs its own meal.

684
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Speaker 3: Wow wow, I mean this is we're getting thick hair, dude.

685
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: Look I'm with it. You got to understand though, I

686
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: am the guy that I'll go out to eat somewhere

687
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: and then like, instead of dessert, I'll just order another meal.

688
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense, Like Okay, well

689
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: this person got dessert. I'm like, no, no, bring me

690
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: another meal.

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Speaker 1: That's why we shouldn't. We should just thenk go get

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Speaker 1: dinner together. Because if you told me that I had

693
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Speaker 1: the choice between I could just eat an entire cake

694
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: today or I could sit down at a steakhouse, I'd

695
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: rather have the cake, Like, give me, give me an

696
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: entire cake. So like I'll eat dessert for both of us,

697
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: you eat dinner for both of us. You'll be, you know,

698
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: the adult in the room, and I'll be the petulant child.

699
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Like that's just I think that I think we've really

700
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: come up with something here.

701
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Speaker 3: You did you have ice cream for breakfast?

702
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Speaker 1: Man? So I'm on a journey right now, Breeze heard

703
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: too much about this lately, But I'm on a journey.

704
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: I started in mid May. I decided I was going

705
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: to get I'm gonna get shredded. I have I've always had,

706
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: like not always, but I've had like one little lab.

707
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to get like a whole rack ABS.

708
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I want ABS to move into the neighborhood. So I

709
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: hired a trainer and he put this whole like plan

710
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: together that's in an app that I do these workouts

711
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: in the app and I eat exactly. I've had the

712
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: same five meals at the same time every day since

713
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Speaker 1: May fifteenth. I have not had a single thing that

714
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Speaker 1: wasn't the same exact meal since May. I'm very good

715
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: at doing this super disciplined thing, but I'm trying to

716
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: get apps. So right now, no, there's no cake and

717
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: ice cream. But if you told me that I could

718
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: break the diet as we stand today, I could have

719
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Speaker 1: any one thing. There's this daven Busters right now has

720
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Speaker 1: this fruit loop cake that I had like right before

721
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Speaker 1: the diet started, where it's like the cake is like

722
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: this sponge cake that has fruit loops in it, and

723
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: it has this marshmallow frosting on it, and it's like

724
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: this sweet cream that tastes like cereal milk that it

725
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: sits in that's cold. Oh my god, I'd rather have

726
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: that than a steak any day.

727
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Speaker 3: Guys. I don't know if it's lasted another forty eight

728
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: hours on this diet the way out here at him talk.

729
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: I don't give them another forty eight hours. I think

730
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: this diet is baked.

731
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Speaker 8: Burger king in the next twenty four.

732
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a man.

733
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Speaker 6: We might make him fall off the wagon. I'm afraid

734
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 6: it's it's impressive and we're proud of him for sticking

735
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Speaker 6: with it this far though.

736
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Speaker 8: That's good. By the way, Culver's menu and just read

737
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 8: it to him, Oh my.

738
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Speaker 1: God, Culver's like the fact that they just soak that

739
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: stuff in butter before they serve it is what makes

740
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: it sound that it tastes so good. Like just look

741
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: at the nutrition information on even like the chicken there,

742
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: and you'll figure, okay, well you shouldn't. By the way, also,

743
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Speaker 1: you said on the wagon, I've only had water to

744
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: drink too since May fifty, so I'll tell you I'm

745
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: on one. I'm on one. Okay, we've obviously gone way

746
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: off the rails. We'll get back to everything that you

747
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: really care about, which is, of course culture in championships.

748
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Speaker 1: I want to get Holland's thought. He said something earlier

749
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Speaker 1: about what it actually takes to win an NBA championship,

750
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Speaker 1: and I think it applies to the names you're hearing

751
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: right now that are opting out of their contracts. We'll

752
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: explain why when we come back. Fox Sports Sunday, Ryan

753
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Speaker 1: Holland's Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 1: com studios. All right, Hollands, you said earlier the championships

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Speaker 1: are about culture, and I think we hear that all

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Speaker 1: the time, but I don't think people really stop to

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00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: think about what that means. And you know, it hits

775
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: me every time we talk about even on the football side,

776
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: when they say, well, this group of guys just had

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Speaker 1: something special in the locker room. How often do we

778
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: hear that afterwards? Right like after a championship you look

779
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: back and it's like, well, there was this special bond

780
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Speaker 1: between everybody. I think we forget sometimes, especially in a

781
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: world where we're watching you know, Paul George opted out

782
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Speaker 1: today and immediately there's going to be some thought of

783
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Speaker 1: where can he go and win a championship.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's as easy as just plug.

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Speaker 1: And play with a great player. There has to be

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Speaker 1: that element of how do you get the right bond together?

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Speaker 1: And I just think to your point, people seem to

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Speaker 1: forget that all the time.

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, they do so. Earlier. I heard me mention,

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Speaker 3: you know Kawhi Leonard briefly in Toronto when he went

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Speaker 3: to Toronto. You know, they had a winning culture. They

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Speaker 3: just didn't have enough to get over the hump. They

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00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 3: didn't have a you know, no disrespect to my guy, Damar,

794
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: but they didn't have a super superstar there, you know,

795
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Speaker 3: on a roster a guy who you know, who just

796
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: has unstoppable moves against any defense. So they had the

797
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: culture though, so that's why everybody was like, well, Kawhi,

798
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: it is so great, Kawhi is so great. No, it's

799
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: a plug and play because they put in a lot

800
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: of work to build that organization. Hats off to the

801
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: Houston Rockets. My Rockets are creating culture. So now you know,

802
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: and one of the young guys develops and so that's

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Speaker 3: next superstar or uh you know, you you end up

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Speaker 3: getting it in a free agency or in a move.

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: You have culture built of hard work and defense and

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00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: all that. That that good stuff, and then you can go.

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00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: So in terms of Paul George, Paul George is gonna

808
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: go have to go to a place where there's culture,

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Speaker 3: and you may at homego culture. What the heck? Collins,

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00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: what the heck are you talking about? Right? For the

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Speaker 3: blind Eye random in the NBA, Fanny you wanta culture

812
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: is whenever you mention a team, whenever we talk about

813
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: in an organization, you immediately know what they do. So FITZI, right,

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Speaker 3: So let's say we said Golden State, right, what's their culture? Right? Hi?

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00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Hugh team play in three point shooting right when they

816
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: were really really good. What did Toronto do? They played hard?

817
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: They played really really hard. So when we're talking culture,

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: you should be able to identify what that team's culture is.

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Speaker 3: So if you mentioned, like the Lakers from last year,

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Speaker 3: like what was there? Culture? Was their identity? And you're like,

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Speaker 3: I don't really know. Now, Darvin Ham did a good

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Speaker 3: job trying to get the guys to work hard, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think he had enough time to necessarily implement that.

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Speaker 3: So when you think culture, you know what that team does.

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Speaker 3: If you think about Orlando, what they're building, they're really big,

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Speaker 3: they're huge, and they defend you know, so building culture

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Speaker 3: is key in getting your guys and talent that buys

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Speaker 3: into it. So then you insert a Paul George into

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Speaker 3: the equation, you're like, wow, this could be a championship

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Speaker 3: because he's adding a piece that works with what we

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Speaker 3: already have. Rolling.

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Speaker 1: When you say that way, it also makes me think

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Speaker 1: about motivation of the person that's coming in, right, because

834
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Speaker 1: you got an know what your end goal is and

835
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Speaker 1: why you're going there. Are you going there to be

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Speaker 1: the face of something and try and help change the culture.

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Speaker 1: That's a much different conversation than are you going there

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00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: to be part of the culture, which is a much

839
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: different conversation than are you going there to be the

840
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: last piece of the puzzle in a culture that already exists?

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00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's such a different Each of those

842
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: things are so different. You know, if you're a player

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: opting out and you're picking where you want to go,

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Speaker 1: it's fine and it is fair as a player. If

845
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Speaker 1: you just want to go somewhere you can play, that's

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: a fair thing to say. If you want to go

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00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: somewhere you can get paid, like, that's fair too, Like

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00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: you want to get the bag. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere and win, then I think it really does

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Speaker 1: speak to what you just talked about that you have

851
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Speaker 1: to be able as a player to accept what your

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00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: role in that entire process is supposed to be. Because

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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: if it's a team on the precipice of winning everything,

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00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be the person coming in an establishing culture.

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00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: You should be able to fit into the culture that

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: already exists. And that's asking a lot from a type

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Speaker 1: a personality. Yeah, you know, you know what, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Rare that you have guys, you know that can do that,

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00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, we look at you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of the moves that Lebron had made immediately kind

861
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Speaker 3: of taken teams to you know, championship standings. I think

862
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: I think just you know, just his championship in Cleveland

863
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 3: was so underrated because he learned, you know, everything from

864
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: pat Riley, went to Miami, figured those things out. But

865
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: you know, when he came to Cleveland, he kind of

866
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: put everybody in the right places and he created the culture.

867
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: You know, he was a big he was a big

868
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: part of that. They had some good things going on there,

869
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: but you know, Lebron kind of knew how to mastermind

870
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 3: it and he knew that he was still playing at

871
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 3: a high enough level where you know, he could make

872
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: things happen.

873
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of Lebron, all this conversation about the Lakers, what

874
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: if I told you maybe it would be best if

875
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Lebron and the Lakers parted ways. Right now, I'm explain

876
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Fox Sports Sunday.

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881
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882
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:18,959
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883
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing, and maybe it's a favor.

884
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it has great opportunity for the team and the player.

885
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: But if you ask me from a basketball standpoint, if

886
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: Lebron and the Lakers really wanted to do each other

887
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,759
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895
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: Look, I'm five nine and a half, maybe five to

896
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: nine in a quarter. I'm shrinking at my old age,

897
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and seventy pounds. What the hell do

898
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: I know about standing on an NBA court? Nothing but

899
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: I have. I'm good at listening and good and learning

900
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: from the people I get to work with, like Ryan Hollins,

901
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: who has played in the league and had tremendous success.

902
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: So Hollins hear me out because it sounds absurd to

903
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: many people for me to say that the Lakers and

904
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: Lebron should part ways, and that would be the real favor.

905
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: But the Lakers, above and beyond the celebrity aspect and

906
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the brand aspect and the superstar aspect, all the things

907
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: we associate with the Lakers, the Lakers are supposed to

908
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: be about championships. They're supposed to be like Boston right

909
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: where we only care about one thing, can we win

910
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: at all? And I would argue that taking more time

911
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: in this experiment of the current version of Lebron isn't

912
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: getting them actually closer to that championship they want to win.

913
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: If they wanted to do Lebron a favor because he

914
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: wants to win at this point in his career, they'd

915
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: part ways. If Lebron wanted to do the Lakers a

916
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: favor because they really want to win championships, they'd stop

917
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: delaying the inevitable he would leave the team, because it

918
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: would at least then force them to start doing what

919
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: they need to do, which is look at their.

920
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Long term future.

921
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: In my mind, these two together right now today, moving forward,

922
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: are not gonna win a championship.

923
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: So why are we doing this?

924
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: Wow? Hold on, let me sewed down. You said Lebron's

925
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: not gonna win a championship, so he should leave LA with.

926
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: The Lakers, he ain't winning one. The Lakers ain't winning it, so.

927
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: He should leave. Why so he would go? So you're

928
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: saying he needs to go to another team. Is this

929
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: because Lebron can't win with what the Lakers have so

930
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: he should go to another team? Or this is more, Hey,

931
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: Lakers need to get rid of Lebron. Is that what

932
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: you're saying.

933
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Lebron can still win a chip, but

934
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: not with this Lakers roster. So if like you're talking about,

935
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: Lebron is cemented, he's like. And look, I've said for

936
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: years people are so dug in on Lebron they won't

937
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 1: change their mind. Right. I personally look at it and say,

938
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: the one thing we know about is he cares the

939
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: most about winning. He's a mercenary for championships in a

940
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: great way. I have no problem with Lebron looking around

941
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: the landscape. I have no problem with Kad looking around

942
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: the landscape. I have no problem with players that want

943
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: to win championships saying, all right, where am I going

944
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: to go if I'm gonna do a one year, two year,

945
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: three year, where can I win a championship in that

946
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: amount of time? Knowing that that's not going to be

947
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers, why stick around if he leaves? Yeah, it's hard,

948
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: but at least it forces the Lakers to start a

949
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: reset to actually build for future and then he can

950
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: figure out where he wants to play that he thinks

951
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: by adding him makes them immediately a championship contender. Wouldn't

952
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: he find a better shot at a chip if he

953
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: was on a different roster next year?

954
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: If this or NBA two K, Yeah, that will work. Also,

955
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: there is a human element to that. Yeah, if you

956
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: just correct, if you just plugged him into the Celtics

957
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: right like, he could probably go win a championship with

958
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: the Celtics. But there's a human aspect. Guess what, when

959
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: you're younger, you just go where you go. You're glad

960
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: to be in the NBA, you play ball. It is

961
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: what it is. But at this stage in Lebron's career,

962
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: you know what Lebron is doing. He ain't trying to

963
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 3: move from LA. You don't want to move, and especially

964
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: when your family's there, so Lebron will be at Laker

965
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: and that's not gonna change. That's why when Russell Westbrook

966
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: left the Lakers, he took less money and said, you

967
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: know why I'm going. I'm going to the Clippers. And

968
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: that's when they were like, well, Russell Westbrook is so

969
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: underappreciated with the Clippers, this and that, and you know

970
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: he may be getting he's signing back with the Clippers.

971
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: That's what Paul George is probably like, you know what,

972
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: let me hear what the Lakers have to say. They

973
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: don't have money, but I'm going to hear them out

974
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: because I don't want to leave LA. When you get

975
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: to a certain stage in life and you have your family,

976
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: you have your your friend, you have all these things again,

977
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: you don't want to leave. So this idea of just

978
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: going but for a young player, yeah, go get your

979
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: championship when your kids are little. So let me say this.

980
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: So when your kids are you know they're small, guess

981
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: what you can do when they're in preschool, they're even

982
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: in first grade, when it's time to leave. When the

983
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: season ends, you pull him out of preschool. You pull

984
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: him out of first grade. And as soon as the

985
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: season's over, you just go home, You travel back to

986
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: wherever home is for you, and you're there. But when

987
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: you get older, when they get in middle school, when

988
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: they get in high school, you're either you're leaving your

989
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: family or you're going to be stuck where you are.

990
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: So as far as Lebron just going somewhere to ring Chase,

991
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: I think the mindset for him, I'm pretty sure, and

992
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: I don't speak for him, is to get it done

993
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: with the Lakers or hey, you know it, even if

994
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: there's not a roster that can win a championship, he

995
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: ain't going nowhere else, you know, had no interest anything else,

996
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: if that makes it.

997
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: But he can't have his cake and eat it too

998
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: at this point, like we keep every time that's a

999
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: move with the Lakers, we all say, well, Lebron's really

1000
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the GM, Like that's the narrative around everything. They're only

1001
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: doing what Lebron does, no matter what the entire organization does.

1002
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing at this point that Polinka or Geniabus can

1003
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: do that people will actually pie. They all say, well,

1004
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: they're just doing what Lebron wants. Well, if Lebron is

1005
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: sitting here making as the way we cover it, I'm

1006
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: not saying this is true, but we cover it as

1007
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Lebron is making these demands to get the roster to

1008
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: where it can be to win a championship. Well he

1009
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: can't in this situation by nobody's fault, but the Lakers

1010
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: and Lebron's own.

1011
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: The roster isn't good enough to do that.

1012
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: So at what point do you then have to prioritize

1013
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: which things matter the most to you?

1014
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me give you perspective. Also in Los Angeles,

1015
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: when you go into a rebuild, it don't look well, retool,

1016
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: but you can't rebuild and analytically by the numbers correct.

1017
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: And it's also you know, Rob Polinka has been there

1018
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: for a while, so Rob Polinka doesn't want to get

1019
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: the smoke of tearing things down and building them back up.

1020
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: He wants to build onto the legacy that he's kind

1021
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: of building. When a new GM comes in. Look, Mike

1022
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: Dunleavy went to the Golden State. What did Mike Dunlavey

1023
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: look to do the first Mega movie? He brought in

1024
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: Chris Paul and he traded away Jordan pull Mega move.

1025
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: He put his stamp on what he believed was right.

1026
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: And that's something that new gms do. The reason I

1027
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: bring that up is you say, well, you you, maybe

1028
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. Tear it down, start over from scratch. Analytically,

1029
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: that is the best choice. Lakers don't want a three

1030
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: four year restart. I don't know if you remember how

1031
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 3: things were going in LA when it was a young Koolsman,

1032
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: young D'Angelo Russell, young Julius Rant and these were good players.

1033
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: Dude wanted no parts of it. He wanted absolutely no

1034
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: parts of it. The people of La'll tell you why

1035
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: anything to do with it.

1036
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: You're a thousand percent right. I think that. So this

1037
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: is where my mind works. I think that rebuild is inevitable.

1038
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're going to win a championship

1039
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: in this process. I think that Lebron's gonna give him

1040
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: a couple of more years in this and then in

1041
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: the end of a couple of more years, when he's

1042
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: had his you know, Kobe like retirement run, everybody will say,

1043
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, goodbye, thank you so much, we love you,

1044
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: and then the Lakers going to look around the cupboard

1045
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: and realize, oh man, the cupboard's pair and they're going

1046
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: to have to start to rebuild that. So I am

1047
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: at this spot, and maybe this just makes me jaded

1048
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: with the Lakers, but I'm at the spot where I

1049
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: think the three or four year rebuild period is inevitable.

1050
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: So if I know it's inevitable, why not just rip

1051
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: the band aid off started now instead of waiting longer

1052
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: and longer to do that when in my mind there

1053
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: isn't a way that there is nothing that the Lakers

1054
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: are going to do in the next month that's suddenly

1055
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: going to make me comfortable betting my house the Lakers

1056
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: to represent the West in the next NBA Finals. It

1057
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: just it feels like there's always a problem with this.

1058
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not putting an asterisk with the championship. I

1059
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: think a championship is a championship. But other than that moment,

1060
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: it hasn't been able to gel the way anybody thought

1061
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: it would. And just like at some point, if you're

1062
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: the Clippers, you look around and say, man, we thought

1063
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: we'd get something out of this, and it hasn't really

1064
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: worked out that way. I think the Lakers are in

1065
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: the same situation.

1066
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: Let me give you some context where because I hear

1067
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: what you're saying, where would Lebron go other than Boston

1068
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: that you feel would ensure a championship for him. That's right.

1069
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I still believe that Lebron in this

1070
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: moment is such a huge He's a huge asset on

1071
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: the court. I'm not even talking about the brand of

1072
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: Lebron where. But that's a tough question because you're right,

1073
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: there aren't necessarily natural spots where I suddenly look at

1074
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at it and saying, you know what

1075
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: Milwaukee really needs, they need Lebron right like, And there's

1076
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: so much complication in the NBA salary cap.

1077
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: So I don't really know the answer to that. So

1078
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 2: I know that it can't be the Lakers.

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00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: So right, right, right, if we're saying there's no plug

1080
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: in play scenario, right, so let's say you make a

1081
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: monumental move, you leave your family, you travel somewhere else, right,

1082
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: you got a new this this whole new beginnings, right,

1083
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: and you don't win a championship? Why did you move?

1084
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: And another thing you brought up, you said, the Lakers

1085
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: do everything Lebron James want. Right, They've been drafted and

1086
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: said why would you leave that? It fits? Here's the

1087
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: thing you were a lot of people don't know. Wait, well, amazing,

1088
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: one of the best in the field. Violent is correct,

1089
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: yeah right, And when you chose to leave that and said,

1090
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: you know what, I love sports, I love to talk.

1091
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: I know this is something new. Let me put it

1092
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: my ten thousand hours into broadcasting because it is passion. Right. Yeah,

1093
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Lebron James ain't leaving to me for the basketball game.

1094
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 3: For him, he's won the championships. It's I'm the all

1095
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: time leading scorer in the NBA. On top of being

1096
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: the all time leading scorer in the NBA, I get

1097
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: a chance to do it with my son. It's bigger

1098
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: than basketball at this point. He's gotten the championships, you know.

1099
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: And again, there are no scenarios that he can go

1100
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: to even let's hypothetically right. Let's say hypothetically right, because

1101
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: you're saying it would be the best for both sides.

1102
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 3: He's got a lot to add, we get some exciting basketball,

1103
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: like all these factors will come to play. It's almost

1104
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: from a number standpoint, no brainer, right, no, no, no, no, no,

1105
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: don't work that way, because again, Lebron has everything that

1106
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: you can ask for when it comes to the game

1107
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: of basketball. So there's no reason that he will be leaving.

1108
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: Okay, you had broken that down beautifully. When we come back,

1109
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I will give you the one response. There's one reason

1110
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: that I think you've missed about why I think Lebron

1111
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: and the Lakers are part ways. We'll do that when

1112
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: we come back to the ti rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Radio Sunday. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Jason Fitz.

1114
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,920
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1115
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,320
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1116
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,560
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1117
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,360
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00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Radio Sunday. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Jason Fitz.

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00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 1: We're coming at you live from the ti Raq dot

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Speaker 1: Com studios. All right, we were discussing before the break

1121
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: a my controversial take the Lakers and Lebron should just

1122
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: amicably partways at this point be best for everybody, and

1123
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins, my co host, who played many years in

1124
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: the NBA, successfully points out that you know, there are

1125
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: certain things that matter in this conversation, and being around

1126
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: your family and getting to play with your kid, and

1127
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: also knowing that frankly, at this point, you just don't

1128
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: want to move. You don't want to go through all

1129
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: these things. You're in a great spot with the Lakers,

1130
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: makes really smart points on all of it. But Ryan,

1131
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I think, then, if this is

1132
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: the case, there's one thing that we all have to

1133
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: change as a collective society. And that's what we talk

1134
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: to talk about when it comes to Lebron because we

1135
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: make everything, and by we I mean everybody with the

1136
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: microphone and a show. Ninety percent of the time when

1137
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about Lebron, it's, Oh, he wants to win

1138
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: a championship and he's not happy with this, and he's

1139
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: not happy with this. If his goal is simply I

1140
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: want to be somewhere and have a good time playing

1141
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: some ball and play with my kid. I want to

1142
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: have fun with the great organization and just enjoy like

1143
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: I've done my thing. I don't really care about any

1144
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: of the rest of it. If that's what we're accepting

1145
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: is the new reality, do we not then have to

1146
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: change the way we all talk about Lebron because you know,

1147
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: every debate show this year is going to go back

1148
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: into yet again the legacy of Lebron versus Michael and

1149
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: all of these diferent things they're gonna use this current

1150
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: chapter against him if they choose to in these conversations.

1151
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: But if his real goal is just to love the

1152
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: sport and play with his kid, then we should change

1153
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the tone of our conversations.

1154
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: Let me also give this element in if Lebron went

1155
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 3: to Boston per se right, and he went to championship,

1156
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: they would say, yeah, Lebron, you went to Boston and

1157
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: you won with the Celtics. That's why you won the championship.

1158
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't be like, oh, Lebron won, he got

1159
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: another He doesn't need to ring. Like. There are guys,

1160
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 3: you know, hey, James Harden right now has done everything

1161
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: in his career by the championship. So James Harden, you know,

1162
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: can can do some ring chasing. You know, there's a

1163
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: number of guys, you know, they're that point, that point

1164
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: in their career. They're great, they've done everything expected, you know,

1165
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: MVPs whatever, but they don't have a championship, so they

1166
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: can go ring chase. K Everybody was so mad at

1167
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, you go kick rocks. Kevin Durant was like, man,

1168
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 3: let me get it. Let me let me make sure

1169
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: that I get a championship, and he did, and everybody

1170
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 3: was mad. And he did, but everybody if he didn't

1171
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: do that will look back. Ah, he got everything but

1172
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 3: a championship. No. Kevin Durant said, I'm gonna go get

1173
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: my chip and then I'm gonna move forward. And it

1174
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: has not. It's so easy. It hasn't. Ooh, Le'm gonna

1175
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: say it again. Fitzy, You're like, it's so easy. It

1176
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: hasn't been duplicated. Again, it is so easy, it hadn't

1177
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: been duplicated. So to answer about Lebron, why not go

1178
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: that's what he's playing for you. For a guy like Lebron,

1179
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: you gotta win your own championship. He can't win Jason

1180
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: Tatum's championship. You get what I'm saying. And then they'd

1181
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: be like, wow, he just went there Jason Tatum and

1182
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: that was it, right. So Lebron is so great, he

1183
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: has to win his championship. He can't win, you know,

1184
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum's championship, can't win anybody else's. He has to

1185
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: win his championship. So I hope that that brings some

1186
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: more light of why he can't leave. There's there's no

1187
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 3: minds and lean leaving and you're like, well, he just

1188
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: wants to lose that. No, it doesn't mean that he

1189
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: just wants to lose. It just means that, hey, you know,

1190
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: he knows what's going on and it's not as easy

1191
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: as what you're saying, and he's got to get his own,

1192
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: you know, his own championship.

1193
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: Well, and it's fair to say that I'm not really

1194
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: I hadn't put in the variable of the fact that

1195
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: people have made up their minds, like, look, I think

1196
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: Lebron versus MJ is the equivalent, the grown up equivalent

1197
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: of my dad can beat up your dad, Like nobody

1198
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: really knows, nobody can prove it one way or the other.

1199
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: We're just like it's that that we're yelling into the

1200
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: abyss with that. And to be very clear, I want

1201
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: to preface all of this. I am not going to

1202
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: have a political conversation here. I simply after the debate

1203
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: the other night, I tweeted out a question. I said,

1204
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: is there anything that you saw in the debate tonight

1205
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: that would change the way that you voted? And ninety

1206
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: percent of the people that responded to that poll said no.

1207
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's just I wasn't saying that to

1208
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: get involved in politics, simply saying that to remind everybody

1209
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: that y'all already made mind up, So like, why are

1210
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: we talking about it like it's a big deal when

1211
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: you've already made your mind up. To your point, people

1212
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: have made their mind up one way or the other

1213
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: about Lebron. People are so dug in on either Lebron

1214
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: is the best or Lebron isn't the best that nobody's

1215
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: allowing reevaluation of any of that, or or like, hey,

1216
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I've got new information, let me look at it, or

1217
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: let me listen to your side of it. No, like

1218
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: this is just two sides like politics screaming at each other.

1219
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: And you're right, if Lebron goes somewhere and wins five

1220
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: more championships, it'll be well, he had to ring Chase

1221
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: at the end of his career. If he stays with

1222
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers and does an incredible thing of playing with

1223
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: this kid, it just has this moment.

1224
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: For five more years.

1225
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: It'll be like, yeah, but look, he didn't even win

1226
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: a championship and the Lakers couldn't get it done. They

1227
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: only got the bubble one. Like nobody's actually listening. Everybody's

1228
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: just yelling.

1229
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 3: Well again too, and I want to see and maybe

1230
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: this can sway you the only way that it. I mean,

1231
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: a championship would add to his legacy, undoubtedly, but it

1232
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: would have to be a championship in LA. So let's

1233
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 3: say fit obviously as great as Lebron is and we're

1234
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: both saying you shouldn't. There should be no one that

1235
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 3: can question what he's done. And this whole thing would

1236
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: be having a chance to probably throw a lobb Lebronni

1237
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: or Brownie throw a lob to him. To me, that

1238
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: just adds to his legacy. It's unbelievable. Okay, it's a

1239
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: father's dream, right right. If Lebron, let's say they signed

1240
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: Paul George, right, James hard and Paul George, one of

1241
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: those guys signs with Lebron and for some weird reason

1242
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: they win a championship this year. Would that be different

1243
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: than if he went and joined the Celtics.

1244
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: No, no, not to me, but to a lot of people,

1245
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: it would be just steven A.

1246
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: It would be we know that well, it would be

1247
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: it would be his, You get what I'm saying. It

1248
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: would be his and it wouldn't be anybody else's and

1249
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: that's the same reason when Kevin Durant, as we noted earlier,

1250
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: when his championship, right, uh, they said, oh, that was

1251
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: Steph Curry's look at the team that he had look

1252
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: at this Kevin Durant still hasn't been credited for his championship,

1253
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: credited givin Durrant. And he was the best player arguably

1254
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: right at that moment, the best player on the entire planet.

1255
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: So right, yeah, go ahead. So when I bring that up,

1256
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, Hey, give him some credit, give

1257
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: him credit for you know, for for what is due

1258
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: and understand that. And do you agree he's gonna he

1259
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 3: would have to do in LA to get the I

1260
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: guess to to shut the people up. But at this point,

1261
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 3: Lebron shouldn't have to shut anybody up.

1262
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: To me, what's wild is that we have become such

1263
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: a troll society that with the NBA particularly, it's all, yeah,

1264
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter if you didn't win championships, which

1265
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: to me is kind of asinine, like you can be

1266
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous player and never win a championship because the

1267
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: stars didn't align. Like the amount of breakup Brown Tatum,

1268
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: which I was never a part of my record speaks

1269
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: on that was because Okay, so they played one hundred

1270
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: and seven games together and didn't win a championship. All right,

1271
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: well there's a reason for that. It's not like one

1272
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: consistent thing got in the way of all of that.

1273
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was a false narrative. And then when

1274
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: you do win a championship, it's yeah, but look at

1275
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: the way he won that championship. Like this is the

1276
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: stupidest thing in the world that we're sitting here saying,

1277
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: you can't have value as an athlete unless you're winning championships.

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Speaker 1: But the championships got to be the kind of championships

1279
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: we like them to be, and then you gotta win.

1280
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: You win one, and it'll be like, yeah, but you

1281
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: gotta win a couple of them. Like the fact that

1282
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: people sit down with Aaron Rodgers and say, but my

1283
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: guy's only won one Super Bowl. You know how hard

1284
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: it is to win a Super Bowl? And then we

1285
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: sit around saying, yeah, but he's only got one of them.

1286
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: And am I supposed to believe that Trent Dilfer is

1287
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: better than Dan Marino because Trent Dilford won a Super

1288
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: Bowl and Dan Marino didn't. This is the ignorance with

1289
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Speaker 1: which we cover the NBA so often, and it just

1290
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy, like because it devalues what we

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01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: see in a night out, It devalues the regular season,

1292
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: it de values the playoffs like the NBA didn't do that.

1293
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: The way we cover the NBA did that because we

1294
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: have become so obsessed with anything you do in the

1295
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: regular season does not matter unless you win a championship

1296
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: the way we want you to win a championship. When

1297
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: we want you to win a championship, and then we

1298
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: will talk about your legacy, even if you're only two

1299
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: years into your damn career, it's stupid.

1300
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: Well, you know the problem with Aaron Rodgers is Tom Brady.

1301
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: You got a guy who set the bar so extremely

1302
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: high that you know, it's almost impossible anybody, even in

1303
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: any other sport, to catch up to because you know, football,

1304
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: especially in football, football is supposed to be the team sport, right,

1305
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: the team. You have to have a great team, you

1306
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 3: have to have timing, and Tom Brady just kind of

1307
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: literates all of that. So you're right, But what lebron Hey,

1308
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: there's no reason for him to leave LA. He's got

1309
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: a deal too sweet. You know, family really comes before everything,

1310
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: and you know, just doubling down that a championship, it

1311
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: would not mean the same anywhere else. And again keep

1312
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: in mind, he's already delivered a championship to LA, so

1313
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 3: you can say it's a bubble championship or not. But

1314
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: a lot of that pressure has subsided. Where if he

1315
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: came here and didn't get that, you know, there'd be

1316
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 3: a lot more questions. But hey, bubble or not, he

1317
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: won one. And you know it's funny, like you said, dude,

1318
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 3: you do anybody know how hard it is to win

1319
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: a championship. If it was just so easy, somebody else

1320
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: would have won that championship that year. But they didn't.

1321
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: Lebron did. They had a good team, they worked, and

1322
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: it was it was his team. He played at a

1323
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: high level and he brought a championship to LA.

1324
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: I can solve all of this. I can solve the

1325
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: way that we should be ranking players. I can solve

1326
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: the way we should be contextualizing contextualizing players.

1327
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna solve all of it. I'm gonna do that

1328
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 2: for a second.

1329
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Speaker 1: But first we got to get you caught up on

1330
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: the biggest news and notes What's trending across the world

1331
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: of sports.

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Speaker 6: And this report Jason and Ryan presented by five guys.

1333
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: Yaha. This is Murgers.

1334
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Speaker 6: We started in the NBA, where multiple outlets reported overnight

1335
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 6: the Chicago Bulls forward Patrick Williams has agreed to a

1336
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: five year, ninety million dollar extension in Major League Baseball.

1337
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 6: On Saturday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers scored seven runs

1338
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 6: and the top half of the eleventh thty for a

1339
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 6: fourteen to seven victory at San Francisco Angels over the Tigers,

1340
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 6: intending six to five. Angels on a six game winning streak.

1341
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 6: The Twins with a five to one victory at Seattle,

1342
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 6: thanks in part to Byron Buxton's three run home run

1343
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 6: in the six sitting. Minnesota is now homered in eighteen

1344
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 6: consecutive games. The Baltimore Orioles with a six to five

1345
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 6: win over the Texas Rangers. Baltimore's Heston Kerstad the go

1346
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 6: ahead Grand Slam home run at the bottom of the

1347
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 6: fifth for the Orioles, who have won four consecutive games.

1348
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 6: In soccer, the Round of sixteen con tinues at Euro

1349
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four today as kicking off at noon Eastern

1350
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 6: it'll be England against Slovakia now, Jason and Ryan, I'm

1351
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 6: gonna put you to the test. London's Daily Male newspaper

1352
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 6: has been speaking to England fans outside the stadium today.

1353
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 6: So on a scale of one to ten, I want

1354
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 6: you guys to rate just how drunk these fans of

1355
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 6: England are that you're about to hear.

1356
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 8: Listen the top of the goop, just enjoy.

1357
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: Look how good they look, how good we are? Everyone

1358
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: comes a manager when yours all gariffiz gits one, two, three, four,

1359
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: four of the best summers ever. Just get behind Gus.

1360
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: The price a battered we are the manager's bad and

1361
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: all the public land through ways doing this coming on

1362
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: bumping top of the goo. Let's go oky to the

1363
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: snyduging things up.

1364
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 8: And again.

1365
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 6: That was a couple of hours before the match even began.

1366
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: Back to you, you know, man, here's the thing.

1367
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: I love it. I love people going out having a

1368
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: good time. I don't want to I love people tailgating Hollins.

1369
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: This never made that much sense to me. I used

1370
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: to say when I was on the road in country music,

1371
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: like if you're just gonna get so tanked at the

1372
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: tailgate that you don't remember the concert, save yourself the money,

1373
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: drink the beer at home, and put the CD on.

1374
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: Like there's a level. Those guys were on one. I

1375
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: think there's a level, Like you gotta have every group

1376
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: that tailgate should have one person that just sits back

1377
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: is like, nope, we're done, We're good.

1378
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: We want to remember today. This should be the cutoff point.

1379
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: I think they missed that.

1380
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you listen. I am not a drinker,

1381
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't know. But you know what, you probably

1382
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: got some people yell and you know at the radio

1383
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 3: right now, go whoa, whoa, whoa, Fitzy that you're missing

1384
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: the whole It's never been about the game. It's never

1385
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,959
Speaker 3: been about the game.

1386
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: Look, I'm too cheap. I am too cheap to spend

1387
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: stadium prices and stadium prices on concessions and not remember

1388
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: the damn thing.

1389
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: Like that's just a rule for me.

1390
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: I like, I like to have a couple, you know

1391
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: the stadium, Like to have a couple at an arena and.

1392
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: Then just be done. I gotta make sure that I'm

1393
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: cognizant for the whole thing. Is Fox Sports Radio Sunday,

1394
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollins. I'm Jason Fitz. We're coming at your

1395
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: live from the tiraq dot com studios. I'm gonna stick

1396
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: with alcohol for a second, okay, because alcohol is the

1397
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: way that we end every debate about who's the goat.

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01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: This is the easy thing, because Hollin's, if you've ever

1399
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: walked into a bar, or if you've walked into a

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01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: bar with a friend, if you're not a drinker, you

1401
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: walk into a bar and you walk up to the

1402
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: bartender and you say, you know what, give me your

1403
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: best tequila. Now that's very subjective, so you know every

1404
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: bartender might give you a different tequila. But what you

1405
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: do know when you're standing back in the bar and

1406
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: you're looking, is you know that there is what they

1407
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: call top shelf, right, so give me top shelf tequila.

1408
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: That's the stuff that's on the high shelf. That's the

1409
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: stuff they call.

1410
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: More per shot, more per drink, more per bottle.

1411
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: That's the really nice stuff. We can differ on what

1412
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: the best bottle of wine is, we can differ on

1413
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: what a best bottle of champagne is, best vodka.

1414
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 2: Whatever these things are, but we all know where the

1415
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: group is.

1416
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: If we simply started putting people in tears instead of

1417
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: trying to make one obviously always better than the other.

1418
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: If we simply said, all right, these are our top shelf,

1419
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: Like you know what, I'm gonna be honest, y'all, I

1420
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: don't care who's better than Michael or Lebron. Ain't gonna

1421
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:30,879
Speaker 1: change my sunday.

1422
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: Here's what I know. They're two of the best of

1423
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: all time. Pop them up on the same shelf.

1424
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: Like put the action figure of Lebron next to the

1425
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 1: action figure of Michael, and when we walk into the bar,

1426
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: we can look up at the top shelf and we

1427
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: can be like, man, those those are the goats, Like

1428
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: those are two of the best of all time. And

1429
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: then you end this unnecessary and unsolvable debate. And by

1430
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: doing so, once you're Lebron and you're on the top shelf,

1431
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: people can just relax about whether or not you're going

1432
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: to accomplish enough to get past Michael. Like those stupid

1433
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: debates can end if we simply tear people by shelf.

1434
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 3: I don't think we do. Like everyone's good. And here's

1435
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: the thing, A lot of the former basketball players don't

1436
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 3: like to do it because they have so much respect

1437
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 3: for the game that it's like if I have to

1438
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 3: The problem is and FITZI, you know, we've both been

1439
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: guilty of this. This is part of it, me more

1440
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 3: so than you. Is there's a level where if I'm

1441
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 3: gonna prove that my guy is better, I gotta do

1442
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: some tearing down of the other guy. And when the

1443
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 3: problem with the basketball peers and the hoop heads is

1444
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: that if you think I've got to tear down Lebron

1445
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 3: James to talk how good that Michael is, or I

1446
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: gotta tear down Michael to say how good Lebron is,

1447
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: or I gotta tear down Kobe to say how much

1448
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: better he is than Lebron, to do it, because there's

1449
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: no way you can take anything away from all those

1450
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: amazing people. And keep in mind, every time that those

1451
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: debates are being had, it's an honor that someone's mentioned

1452
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: in those breaths, you know. But to what you're saying,

1453
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: why you want to tear somebody has to end up

1454
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: on top, you know, And that's part of the fun,

1455
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: that's part of the debate, that's part of the passion

1456
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: when it's done all in sports and in the right context.

1457
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: But you know, I get your tears, but it's a

1458
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: safe way out. You know, you want to end with somebody,

1459
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: somebody on top. And again, you're right, it is subjective.

1460
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: It is my dad's pread your dad. A lot of

1461
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: times they're like, you know, I had the debate with

1462
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: Shaq and it was like, hey, Shaq, well you know

1463
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: Lebron's better than Mike, and he's like, you're crazy. Well,

1464
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: why am I crazy? You're crazy? You know it's my dad,

1465
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 3: Because it's my dad, that's why, you know. Then Shaq,

1466
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: for context, comes back later on and goes, when Lebron

1467
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: break the score record, goes, well, Lebron, you're the best

1468
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: player to ever do it. You know, So again it's

1469
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: my dad versus your dad. There's a lot of things

1470
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: that are subjective. I think there are, and I think

1471
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: the fun part about watching le Bron's career that you're right,

1472
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: if somehow he won a championship in LA it would

1473
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: sway some minds, not all minds, but it's it would

1474
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: sway some minds. And there was a moment where, because

1475
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: Michael was definitely always my goat, where Lebron swayed me.

1476
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 3: And it was when he was in Cleveland and he

1477
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: had that run and I was like, I don't think

1478
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: we've ever seen anything like this. I don't think Michael

1479
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 3: can do this. And that was my personal opinion.

1480
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: I hear all of that only the difficulty I have

1481
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: with it is sometimes it feels like the opinion becomes

1482
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: the overriding narrative around everything, and you know, I just

1483
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: I think about this. In the music business, there are

1484
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: huge songs that have lived on forever that didn't come

1485
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,919
Speaker 1: anywhere close to number one, and like Sweet Home Alabama.

1486
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: I think Sweet Home Alabama peaked at number thirteen on

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Speaker 1: the charts if I remember correctly. Aerosmith, who had a huge,

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: huge career, huge massive career full of songs everybody knows

1489
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Speaker 1: and listens to all the time, don't want to miss

1490
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: the thing. The song from the Armageddon soundtrack was the

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Speaker 1: first song Aerosmith ever recorded that went to number one.

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Speaker 1: Everything else didn't get anywhere near that. Like you can

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01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: even a gangam style like songs like that that are

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01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: still played and we all roll our eyes to never

1495
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: went to number one. And the thing of it is,

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01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: in the music world, that's okay because you remember the song,

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: and you remember the song for what it means to

1498
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: you in the moments and everybody allows that. In sports,

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: it feels like if you don't go to number one,

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Speaker 1: if you weren't absolutely Like we had a song when

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: I was with the Van Perry. We had a song

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: that called Don't Let Me Be Lonely that went to

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01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: number two, and I remember how disappointed we were on

1504
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: the bus the day that it was number two. It

1505
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: was like we had failed epically because we really thought

1506
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: that song was going to go to number one. It

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: meant something to be number one. We finished number two.

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: People got fired because that song went to number two.

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: And I think about that and I'm like, now I

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01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: look back on it, I'm like, that's the stupidest damn

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: thing I've ever been a part of, because you gotta

1512
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: look at it.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

1514
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: Well, as I say this, we have breaking news, all right,

1515
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: I hear we have breaking news. Isa gets caught up.

1516
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: What do we got.

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: Breaking news from Fox Sports?

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 6: It's from the NBA where he ESPN has just reported

1519
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 6: that the Detroit Pistons are hiring JB. Bickerstaff as their

1520
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 6: new head.

1521
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, why yes, tell me what you think? Man?

1522
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 3: I was with JB. What two three stops in the

1523
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: NBA JB does claim that he's the one who drafted

1524
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: me to Charlotte. Loved JB. Bickerstaff Man. He's a basketball mind.

1525
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 3: He deserves his accolades. He has a way of speaking

1526
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: to players. Unfortunately, there's a coaching carousel where you kind

1527
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 3: of it's not your fault, but you will be fired

1528
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 3: because it's a players league h at the end of

1529
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: the day. And I thought he did an amazing job

1530
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: with the Cavaliers, so I'm gonna have to shoot him

1531
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 3: a congratulation text and I'm ecstatic, man. And ain't nothing

1532
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: easy there with the Pistons, and wasn't anything easy with

1533
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 3: the Bobcats when we were there, but we all ended

1534
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: up being long tenured pros and JB was a big

1535
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: part of that. So again, again happy for JB. Bickerstaff Man.

1536
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: That is the breaking news we just got from Isaac. JB.

1537
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff hired as the head coach of the Detroit Pistons

1538
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: when we come back. Hollins just said something about coaching

1539
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: in the NBA that has me wondering if we're if

1540
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: we're headed down the right or wrong path for the

1541
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: future of the league. We'll break it down next Fox

1542
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Ryan Hollands, Jason Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

1543
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: So Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio coming at your

1544
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: Live from the tyrack dot Com studios, Ryan Hollins, Jason Fitz.

1545
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: The breaking news we just got.

1546
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: JB.

1547
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff has been hired as the new head coach of

1548
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons. And it's funny because I'm interested to

1549
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 1: talk to you Hollins about co coaching for a second,

1550
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: because the minute he's hired, all I can think about

1551
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: is how much the Pistons are paying coaches to not

1552
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,879
Speaker 1: be in the building. At this point, the coaching turnover

1553
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: in the NBA feels astounding to me, and I'm trying

1554
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: to figure out how that plays into the culture you

1555
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. We say a lot about the players

1556
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: and understanding the culture that they're either creating that they're

1557
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: coming into or they're augmenting, depending on what states they

1558
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,919
Speaker 1: are in their career. But that's got to be established

1559
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: by somebody, right So in your mind, if you're looking

1560
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: at JB. Bickerstaff coming in to the Pistons, how comfortable

1561
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: can he even be establishing a culture when the organization

1562
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: has been let's say, at least impatient with the last hire.

1563
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure that you know those statements were addressed.

1564
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: I think all can be forgiven with how patient they

1565
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: are because they paid money, they took care of them.

1566
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: My assumption also, maybe there's something that we just don't

1567
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 3: know that happened there with money. He's had a lot

1568
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 3: going on personally, and I don't I don't know anything.

1569
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 3: I don't am not guessing. I'm just saying, hey, I

1570
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: don't think he's upset. I think he's just fine, and

1571
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: he has options. I think we saw this with with

1572
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: Mike Brown. Mike Brown had similar you know, done to

1573
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 3: him and got to kind of watch his son play

1574
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: ball over and I want to say he was over

1575
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: at modern day and kind of got to relax. And

1576
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: he's back coaching in the NBA right now. So Manti's

1577
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. And I think for JB, he's seeing

1578
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: this situation with the Pistons and saying, you know, are

1579
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 3: you gonna let me develop? Are you gonna be patient?

1580
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: And the problem that JB ran into over over and

1581
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,440
Speaker 3: over with the Gosh with the Cavaliers is the Cavaliers

1582
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 3: got too good, too quick, and they had to win

1583
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: and when you brought in a star like Donovan Mitchell,

1584
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: they go from cultable kids to kind of like, hey,

1585
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: I like to do it like this. I like to

1586
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: play my plays run like this. I like my plays

1587
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: run like that. So, you know, all the work that

1588
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: he put in to get the organization to a certain spot,

1589
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 3: there was a whole lot of you know, being inpatient.

1590
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: And it couldn't be Garland's fault. It couldn't be you know,

1591
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 3: Young Bull's fault. It ended up having to be you know,

1592
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: JB's fault, and that's a part of it. So, you know,

1593
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 3: a job like the Piston should give you time. I

1594
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: think Monty being fired, I don't know, it's not our business.

1595
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: Whatever happened, but it didn't didn't seem it just seemed

1596
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 3: like there was more going on there because that's not

1597
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: much that he could do, you know, with that roster.

1598
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: But he got his money, and again I don't, I don't.

1599
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any complaints.

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, getting paid a boatload of money to

1601
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: not work is something that college football coaches have gotten

1602
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: used to also, like it's it's a beautiful thing. Certainly

1603
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: it'd rather work, but it changes the perspective of the

1604
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: day that you're fired. There's no doubt about that. I

1605
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: look back at the Bucks as an example of you know,

1606
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 1: it felt like when coach Bud finally got him to

1607
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: a championship. And I say finally because leading up into

1608
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: that playoff run, there was a real conversation loudly about

1609
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: whether or not Modenholzer could make the appropriate to adjustments

1610
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then things don't go

1611
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: well the year after he gets let go, and all

1612
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it feels like things in Milwaukee lost

1613
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: some of their footing. And I think that's the hardest

1614
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: part is that there's a fine line for organizations in

1615
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: the NBA, particularly between stability and somebody that can sort

1616
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: of anchor everything versus somebody that can raise the level

1617
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: of play versus somebody that can come in and sort

1618
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: of just man the ship. It's underrated to me how

1619
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: great you have to be as a high top level

1620
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: basketball coach at managing egos more so than I think

1621
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: any other sport. You're genuinely managing how many touches somebody

1622
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: can get, how to keep everybody happy. It's why I

1623
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: think we sort of sleep on. The personality management of

1624
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson and Steve Kirk is being huge accomplishments. But

1625
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: it feels like when you look at a team like Milwaukee,

1626
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: they chose the revolving door, and I don't know that

1627
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: now that looks like that was the right decision. So

1628
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: change for the sake of change. It makes me nervous.

1629
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: But you got to get these hires right when you

1630
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: have a young team. You got to get these highers

1631
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: tight when you're trying to establish the culture of who

1632
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: you are, And that kind of feels like where the

1633
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: pistons are. The pistons are trying to find an identity

1634
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: that isn't just you know, the identity of suck.

1635
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, of course they are. And you know,

1636
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that JB probably had questions back for them.

1637
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: You're right, Hey, what's the direction, what are we building towards,

1638
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: what are we drafting, what's the culture that's being built there?

1639
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: And that's one thing that JB did build with with

1640
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 3: Cleveland is they were extremely good defensively, and that Cavaliers

1641
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: team they couldn't quite get over the edge. But you

1642
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: know that's something that JB built Old school boxes and elbows,

1643
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: protect the paint, you know, guard inside out, which is

1644
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 3: kind of rare for today's NBA. And again, they had

1645
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: a lot of success, and that was JB.

1646
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: That's such again a good example of having success and

1647
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: then that success not quite being enough. It's a wild world,

1648
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: and you know there's better than anybody, but the expectations

1649
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA shift so quickly, whether we're talking about

1650
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 1: coaches or stars, the expectations shift so quickly that you

1651
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: step back and you wonder how patient anybody can be,

1652
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: because once you get into that window, man, the worst

1653
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: thing you can be in the NBA is not just

1654
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: to be bad, it's to become irrelevant. And you've got

1655
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: to find somebody that can help bring everything together to

1656
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: avoid that process for you. So the Pistons hope they

1657
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: took that step. With the breaking news this morning, JB.

1658
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff has been hired as their new head coach. We

1659
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: will see how that moves forward. In the meantime, we'll

1660
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: continue to break down everything happening across the world of sports,

1661
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: not the least of which is I cannot believe I'm

1662
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 1: actually saying this. I cannot believe it's true. But we

1663
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: might have controversy and the hot dog eating Contest before

1664
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: we've even gotten to the fourth of July. I'll tell

1665
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: you why next coming up on Fox Sports Radio, Ryan Hollins,

1666
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: Jason Fitz.

1667
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Speaker 1: Controversy is nothing new in the world of sports, but

1672
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: we're not used to controversy around the Fourth of July

1673
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: and the hot dog eating Contest. Yet we are here

1674
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: right now now with the same old you already heard

1675
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: about the fact that Joey Chestnut isn't going to be

1676
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: eating at the Nathan's Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest this year.

1677
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Speaker 2: But now things just got a litle more interesting.

1678
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Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you all about it on Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: We've gotten you covered all morning across the landscape of

1687
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Speaker 1: lebron and the NBA and everything else that's happening right now.

1688
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: Bahalin's got to get into some hot dog drama because

1689
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier. You and I actually did a

1690
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: hot dog eating contest together back when we were on ESPN.

1691
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: We ate some hot dogs against each other. Should be noted.

1692
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Speaker 2: One time in my life I can say I kicked

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Speaker 2: to professional athletes.

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Speaker 3: But but I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, and I'm a little guy, y'all.

1696
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Speaker 2: Like I'm a little guy, but I can house some food.

1697
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that. And like I said earlier,

1698
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: three years I was the hot dog eating contest sideline reporter.

1699
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with it. So there was some big

1700
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: news a couple of weeks ago when we found out

1701
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: that Joey Chess not not going to be competing in

1702
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: this year's fourth of July hot dog Gating contest because

1703
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: he has a deal with impossible foods and the hot

1704
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 1: dog eating contest is sponsored by Nathan so they couldn't

1705
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: find a way to do it together. So then we

1706
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: find out at the time that you know, in a

1707
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: few months, Netflix, there's gonna be a big Kobe Yashi

1708
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: versus Joey Chestnut hot dog eating contest from the two

1709
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: greatest of all time to ever do it. Fine, but

1710
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: yesterday we got another piece of breaking news, another piece

1711
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: of drama, another slice of Oh my god, what's happening pie,

1712
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: as we find out that on the fourth of July,

1713
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: directly against Nathan's hot dog eating contest, Joey Chestnut is

1714
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: going to go and he's going to eat hot dogs

1715
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: on his own, in his own event, that he's gonna

1716
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: be eating hot dogs with soldiers. I mean, what gets

1717
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: more American turned around and being like, you know what,

1718
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat some hot dogs with some soldiers on

1719
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: the fourth of July. This is a This is all

1720
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't need you major league eating. I

1721
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 1: got my own thing. This is wild.

1722
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 7: He because he is hot dog eating, right, he is

1723
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 7: hot dog eating right, you gott Hey, I'm not mad

1724
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 7: at this right now.

1725
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 3: He's the biggest name. They banned the guy. They didn't

1726
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: want to make it work. I love it. I love

1727
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: to move. Okay, he's a legend, he's the he's the

1728
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: goat of the sport. Literally, so you know what, Yeah, yeah,

1729
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm taking my hot dog and I'm going home.

1730
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, look like Nick Weary is one

1731
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: of the competitors on the fourth. I think he has

1732
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: a real chance at winning. I've spent a lot of

1733
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: time with Nick for a few years. It's gonna mean

1734
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 1: a lot to him. But I actually feel get bad

1735
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: for the people that are eating at the Nathan's Hotel

1736
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: getting contest because two things. One they're not they're gonna win,

1737
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna win against Joey Chestnow we talked

1738
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 1: earlier about qualifying championships in the NBA. You want to

1739
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: tell me that everybody's gonna be like, I mean, it

1740
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: didn't bet Joey. And Joey's number is usually just twenty

1741
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: above everybody else, so you know, realistically, whatever winning number

1742
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: is is going to be far lower than what we're

1743
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: used to. So it's a lower number. And he didn't

1744
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: take on Joey. You're not gonna get a lot of

1745
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: street credit for that, whether you should or not. And

1746
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: it's not just Joey, it's a motivated Joey. Joey.

1747
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 3: Joey's about to go off. I mean, this is gonna

1748
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 3: be this like like he may go over there with

1749
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 3: these soldiers and just just go berserk. And I think

1750
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 3: he is. I think he is.

1751
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he tweeted out yesterday, I'm headed down to

1752
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Fort blissenel Passo on the fourth to do it. I

1753
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: do best military style while I'm crushing hot dogs. You

1754
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: want to come with me and help feed the hungry crowd?

1755
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: You win?

1756
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: I mean this just the other part of it, because

1757
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: you're right, he's gonna be motivated, He's gonna put up

1758
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 1: a massive number, and maybe nobody's gonna watch it compare

1759
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: because I'll be honest, you'all might roll your eyes at it.

1760
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: For everything I ever did at ESPN, I'm not sure

1761
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: my phone blew up more or I got asked more

1762
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: about anything other than the hot dog eating contest. The

1763
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 1: number of concentrated eyeballs on that on the fourth of

1764
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: July is real. But now what you're gonna see is,

1765
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, so and so wins a hot dog eating

1766
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: contest with fifty dogs, and over here, you know you've

1767
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: got Joey Chestnut put down seventy four with the soldiers

1768
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: at four Bliss. That just feels like America is taking

1769
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: America on that one. Like there's just a lot of

1770
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: America now there's a lot of like this is just

1771
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: America through and through, and Joey Chestnut is going to

1772
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: be the victor.

1773
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 3: For all of it. Hey, I'm a big Joey fan personally,

1774
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 3: I would like a rematch. Okay. I felt like, you know,

1775
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: I was cheated in the hot dog contest. I felt

1776
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: like I had so much more to offer, and you

1777
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 3: know what, like I won a second chance, you know.

1778
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: But I'm team Joey in this. I ride with him.

1779
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 3: I support him. I don't know where you are FITSI

1780
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 3: and I think they should have they they knew this

1781
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 3: Chestnut thing was coming up, and I think that they

1782
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 3: should have found a way to work around it.

1783
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, look, you can't right now when

1784
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: you've still got peak Joey chestnutt if this is years

1785
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: from now and Joey's not as good. And Joey really

1786
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: genuinely trains for this stuff all year round, like last year,

1787
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: he had heard his for two years ago. He'd hurt

1788
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: his foot right before the event and he was in

1789
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: a walking boot and I remember talking to him and

1790
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: he said, you know, it's gonna slow down my number

1791
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: because I use my feet to bounce while I eat,

1792
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Like he's got a methodical approach, like he trains for this.

1793
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's it's if you're major

1794
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: league eating, you know, did you cut off your nose

1795
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: despite your face? Because this isn't the end. I keep

1796
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: using Tiger today as an analogy, but this isn't like

1797
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: past his prime Tiger that you're painfully watching try and

1798
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: swing a club. This is still this is like the

1799
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: master's mid Tiger mid Tiger's dominance saying you know what,

1800
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: we're good without him. We don't need it. We got

1801
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: a brand conflict. We're not gonna do it. It just

1802
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: it absolutely puts major league eating in a terrible situation.

1803
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: Who do you blame? Though?

1804
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Like, who's who's fault?

1805
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 3: Is this right here? Uh? That's what dropped the ball?

1806
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: And I'm and I'm not just saying point generally like

1807
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 3: how does it? Because we know in corporate America things

1808
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 3: are different? Is it the marketing?

1809
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 4: Is it?

1810
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,440
Speaker 3: Hey, we lose sponsorship?

1811
01:27:59,600 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Is it? Like?

1812
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 3: Like? How does this thing work?

1813
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: I think what happens here is Joey realizes he can

1814
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money on a deal, and he

1815
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: takes the deal.

1816
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 3: No talk about Nathan's how did Nathan's how do they

1817
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 3: drop the ball?

1818
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: Well, but Nathan's is sitting around saying, I mean, if

1819
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 1: you're Nathan's and you spend all this money on the

1820
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: hot dog eating contest every year, you don't want somebody

1821
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: coming out that represents another brand, it feels like. And

1822
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: if you're Joey Chestnut, you know if you're getting more

1823
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: money this is This is a little bit like the

1824
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: w NBA portion of it, where we've talked for years

1825
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: about players making so much money on the side doing

1826
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: other things. If you're if you're Joey, you make far

1827
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: more off of your deal with impossible foods then you're

1828
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna make with major league eatings. So this is just

1829
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: everybody looking out for themselves. Now here's the question, do

1830
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: you think most people are going to turn the channel

1831
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: on this? This is what the real heart of the

1832
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: matter here is when people tune in and they find

1833
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: out Joey's not on, are they going to tune out

1834
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: or are they gonna flock to Joey's live stream or

1835
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: whatever you doing wherever it's being broadcast, Like, are people

1836
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: going to watch somewhere else rather than that? Because we

1837
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: are a habitual society, you know that, right, Like, so

1838
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what football games are on on Sunday,

1839
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch those football games. It feels like the

1840
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: hot dog eating contest. What you're banking on is you

1841
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: know what people are gonna sit at. We're a tradition,

1842
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: and once we're a tradition, people will stick with us

1843
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: no matter what. I just don't know it won't get

1844
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: the same level of conversation. But are you gonna watch

1845
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: less with no Joey?

1846
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you have to watch less with no Joey.

1847
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 3: But even Bigger and FITZI, you know what it's like

1848
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 3: working these things? Do you think there would be a

1849
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: very and this is what happens behind the scenes real

1850
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 3: strict like do not say chestnuts name, don't acknowledge it,

1851
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 3: or like do you lean into the deal?

1852
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: So here, that's a really good question, right. The brothers

1853
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: that run this take it very very seriously, and the

1854
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: guy that does the intro speech at the beginning takes

1855
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: it very practices for months to get ready for this.

1856
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: They take it very seriously. I could see where there's

1857
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: two ways to go. Way Number one is you don't

1858
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: even acknowledge Joey. Wait, Number two is you come right

1859
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: in and immediately start with it's a new era for

1860
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: a new champion, you know, But I don't know. Man,

1861
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: this feels like the Rockets win in the title while

1862
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Michael was taking his break.

1863
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna have.

1864
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: It's this is always gonna be the illaj one champions, Like,

1865
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: It's just that's what it's gonna be. It's the it's

1866
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: the ultimate asterisk of Yeah, but there was no Michael

1867
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: those two years, so do we really count that?

1868
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 3: Wow?

1869
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Wow?

1870
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 3: No, No, you're right, you're right. That was that's a

1871
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 3: that's a that's a thing. Don't shoot at my rockets.

1872
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: I caught what you said. But you know that that

1873
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: Ed can't in it very much. Is gonna end up

1874
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 3: being a thing, and whoever wins it, they're gonna be

1875
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 3: looking like, you know, yeah, you didn't beat Joey. You

1876
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: didn't beat Joey. Listen, if I'm Nathan's I lean into

1877
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: this all the way. I lean into this thing so hard.

1878
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it would it would it would be It'd

1879
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: be disgusting and I'd be showing old footage of Joey.

1880
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 3: I just I just run it through the wall.

1881
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this. Abandoned by the superstar

1882
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: after we made him who he is, Like take a

1883
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: total wwe angle on this where it's like we made

1884
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Joey Chestnut and he abandoned us, but we will rise

1885
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 1: from the ashes and give you the next to Joey

1886
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: like that. Oh man, that's like now you're now you're

1887
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: You're swimming in sauce right there, Like this is this

1888
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: is a good, good thing. You got to lean into

1889
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: this now, like the the you've got, like the yelling

1890
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: and the crowd going nuts. Yeah, I feel like you're right.

1891
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: You lean into the evil evil empire sort of angle

1892
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: on this. You make Joey the bad guy, make major

1893
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: league eating the good guys. Oh, I'm put you on

1894
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: retainer for this, brother. You've got to figure it out.

1895
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we're throwing some shade his way, Like we're

1896
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: throwing some beef. We're throwing some you know, we're throwing

1897
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 3: a not some. We're throwing a lot of shots his way.

1898
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 3: How about that?

1899
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh well, what I know is on the fourth of July,

1900
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: obviously the hot dog eating contest happens, and then we

1901
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: hit the month of July coming up. I'm gonna be

1902
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm just gonna spill it out here.

1903
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: July is the worst month of the year, especially if

1904
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: you're a sports fan. We'll see if Holland's agrees with me,

1905
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: I'll break down. I'll tell you why. Coming up next

1906
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:31,879
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Ryan Holland's Chason Fits Fox Sports Radio Sunday,

1907
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Speaker 1: Ryan Holland's Chasing Fitz. Hanging out with you as we

1908
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Speaker 1: get ready for the fourth of July. Shortly after our show,

1909
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Speaker 1: our podcast goes up. If you missed any of today's show,

1910
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Speaker 1: including a heated debate about well, it won't even be

1911
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: a debate, just the most factual statement you ever need

1912
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Speaker 1: to hear about why what a Burger and In and

1913
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Out are wildly overrated. You check out the podcast, just

1914
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Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you gets your pods, and

1915
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Speaker 1: be sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again.

1916
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Speaker 2: Just search Fox.

1917
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio wherever gets you podcast. You'll see this show

1918
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Speaker 1: posted right after we get off the air. He's Ryan Hollins,

1919
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Fitz. All right, Holland's hear me out. Everybody

1920
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: talks about the best sports months. We hear that in

1921
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Speaker 1: a moment of joy, I'm here to troll the world

1922
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: today and tell you that we are about to enter

1923
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Speaker 1: the worst of the sports months, maybe the worst month

1924
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 1: in general in the calendar for the entire year, no

1925
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 1: matter whether you're a sports fan or not, has to

1926
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: be July, but particularly if you're a sports fan, Like

1927
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: we are so starved for something competitive that we care

1928
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: about hot talkeeating, Like that's real in the month of July,

1929
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: as opposed to like, I don't know, October, where you've

1930
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: got the World Series and you've got you know, the

1931
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: NHL in high gear at the same time the NBA

1932
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: is kicking off, at the same time that college football

1933
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: and the NFL are feeding us like the drug that

1934
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 1: we need, Like we understand all these things, like July, okay, baseball,

1935
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: Like baseball guys yelling at his radio right now, all right,

1936
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: cool baseball? What else? And like even if you love baseball,

1937
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: this isn't a good month to go sit and watch

1938
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: a baseball game. Like the amount of buck crack sweat

1939
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: right now is real. You just you say the word

1940
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 1: outside and all of a sudden, bam, you got a

1941
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: shower right now, Like everything is gross, it's too hot,

1942
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Like unless you're sitting on the water. You're not really

1943
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 1: living like the life. I don't know.

1944
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Manly July takes the cake is the worst for me.

1945
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 3: No, hey, you're right about that, But you know what

1946
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 3: would you say earlier? You don't like tail caters either.

1947
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 3: A lot of people with these baseball gads right, they

1948
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 3: ain't watching the game. It's too long, it's too hot.

1949
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: They're going to drink, they're going to unwind. They're going

1950
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 3: to live their best life. So no, no, I get it.

1951
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 3: You wouldn't get it. See you you are because FITZI

1952
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 3: I get it from you. You are an entertainer, you

1953
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 3: are a performer. You are an our teast in our teeth.

1954
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 3: So you're like, if I'm going I'm gonna get my

1955
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 3: money's worth. That's not how we all think. The rest

1956
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 3: of us are like, I'm going to, you know, have

1957
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 3: a good time. You're like, no, I'm going to get

1958
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 3: whatever I paid for. Oh man, you know how gross

1959
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 3: it is? Like in country music, you spend the whole

1960
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 3: summer touring, which is why summer doesn't hit from me

1961
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 3: the same night. Like so many people love summer because

1962
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 3: it's about vacations. But for fifteen plus years of my life,

1963
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 3: I made the majority of my.

1964
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: Living during summer, and you get out in July when

1965
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: you're playing like the hardest part of the country. Is

1966
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: like one night you're playing this beautiful arena and you're like,

1967
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: we have made it. And the next day you're playing

1968
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: the Paduca County Fair in Kentucky and you're like, what

1969
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: am I doing with my life? And you're standing outside

1970
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: on this stage and like and then like you're you're

1971
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: sweating through everything. So you're gonna wear three or four

1972
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: just different sets of clothes because there's really nowhere you

1973
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: can go that saves you from the heat and the humidity.

1974
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: And then when you start playing the show, because it's night,

1975
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: especially when you're in the South and the Midwest, it's

1976
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: night in the middle of summer. You got lights everywhere.

1977
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: What delights attract weird bugs. So the amount of bugs

1978
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: you swallow during a show while you're trying to sing, oh.

1979
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 3: Oh man, you swallow bugs.

1980
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: You can't help it. Like you got a microphone in

1981
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: front you and you're singing a big old vocal and

1982
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like this weird thing you don't

1983
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: even know what it is, comes just flapping down your throat.

1984
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: You can't do anything about it. There was a there

1985
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: was a guy that helped me set up all all

1986
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 1: of my instruments and everything that my tech is what

1987
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: they call it. And during the summer, when they pull

1988
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: the keyboard out of the case, the first thing they

1989
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: have to do with the keyboard is wipe the bug

1990
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: cuts off because the night before the keys are so

1991
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: white in the light that the bugs just flock to

1992
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 1: the keys. So while you're playing, you're you're just going

1993
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: to be killing things, like there's no two ways about it.

1994
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: You can't not Like, so if you.

1995
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: Are in the middle of hitting a note and a

1996
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 3: bug decides to you know, hey, looks like a nice

1997
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 3: place to rest, do you like you know, like I've

1998
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 3: never heard that. No, no, man, you can't talk to it,

1999
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 3: Like you just gotta go like there's no way about it,

2000
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: Like it's just there's because there's no way you're doing that.

2001
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 3: You're not breaking Oh.

2002
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get like that's like it's the most disgusting

2003
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 1: sound on anyone's heard on the radio today. But like,

2004
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about one or two bugs, and they

2005
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,919
Speaker 1: usually don't fly around you there. I'm talking about especially

2006
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: if you're playing in Florida or Pam or places like

2007
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: that in the middle of the night, or if you're

2008
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: playing near a lake, like in Michigan, if you're playing

2009
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: like a night show, nine thirty at night, middle of

2010
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: the summer, and you have all the lights, the stage lights,

2011
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: and then the lights that are on you, like, think

2012
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: about that light is coming right in your face. If

2013
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: you're not in the light, then nobody can see you.

2014
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: So like you're standing in the light, you could have hundreds,

2015
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: if not thousands of bugs that are swarming everywhere, little ones,

2016
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: big ones, like and they're just die bombing everything while

2017
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: you're playing like it is so yeah, Like, have you

2018
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: had a.

2019
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 3: Bad moment where a bug flies into your mouth during

2020
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: a show and just caught you in a note?

2021
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, several. I've had several where in the

2022
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: middle of a yeah, in the middle of a song

2023
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 1: catches you and then you got a bunch of people

2024
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: on stay singing. So you just get used to the

2025
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: fact that people will drop out for a second here

2026
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: or there everywhere, and you can't really like, again, I'm

2027
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: playing Like when I was touring, I was playing four

2028
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: or five instruments on some songs, right, So it's not

2029
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: like I can just stop reach down gravel water. No,

2030
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: you just gotta you just gotta hunk it through, like

2031
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: you just got to find a way to go through it.

2032
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: You know. It's just and people wonder why I don't

2033
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: like summer, like this is I'm living on right now. Yeah, yeah,

2034
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.

2035
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 3: I get it.

2036
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: It's like you want to go to Miami, You're like, no, no, no, yeah,

2037
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: like you've got it made in La though, at least

2038
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: because in La there's not a lot of humidity, right

2039
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: like everything when it gets nighttime in La, God, it's beautiful,

2040
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: like there's a little breeze coming through. Nobody hates playing

2041
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 1: a night show in LA. It's playing night shows in

2042
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, Louisiana. That'll just it'll put some hair on

2043
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 1: your chest and some sweat in your back. Like there's

2044
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 1: just no, there's no two ways about it, is there.

2045
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: So you're such a basketball guy, is there a month

2046
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 1: that you you just feel like it's for football? For

2047
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 1: NFL junkies, this this month gets really hard because training

2048
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: camp is at the end of the month, and so

2049
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: for so many NFL junkies, we just sit there waiting

2050
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: for our fix all month. You know, is there a

2051
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: month for you where you just feel like you get

2052
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 1: the NBA itch and you need it to come.

2053
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 3: Back right before training camp, right right right right before

2054
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 3: a training camp, because all you're doing is hearing about

2055
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 3: all the free agent signings and how's this guy gonna

2056
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 3: play with this guy and this guy gonna win a

2057
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 3: championship and they're supposed to win it. They're supposed to.

2058
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 3: There's nothing worse for an athlete or like a fan

2059
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 3: than the preseason rankings. They are supposed to be good,

2060
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 3: they're supposed to win it. No one can stop them.

2061
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 3: They're unstoppable, like all that that wears on you. Yeah,

2062
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 3: so I would say right before, right with all the

2063
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 3: pre season stuff heats up, you know, right before training camp.

2064
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: You know that's that's the that's the time where you're like,

2065
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 3: come on, man, come on.

2066
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting too, because those rankings people get

2067
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: so fired up, so fired like power rankings are gonna

2068
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: come out in July for the NFL, and NFL fans

2069
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: are going to just freak out about the blatant disrespect.

2070
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: You know what what fixes that? Winning? Like who cares

2071
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: if somebody had your team ranked twenty second twenty sixth

2072
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: who cares like you know when they'll rank them appropriately.

2073
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: If the team is as good as you think, you'll

2074
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: be right in the end. So like, why does it

2075
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: matter what anybody sitting down making a power rankings list

2076
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: thinks when you know at the end you have the

2077
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: chance to prove that person wrong. I've never understood it.

2078
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it. No, one hundred percent, hundred percent. No, listen,

2079
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 3: nothing you said is wrong. But it's just uh, I

2080
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 3: think it's motivating. You want to find motivation. They didn't

2081
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 3: believe in me before. Now they believe in me now.

2082
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 3: Like everything is motivation. That's That's pretty much ninety percent

2083
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 3: of it.

2084
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: I'll buy that from an athlete, like I can understand

2085
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: why you playing turn around and you're like, man, they

2086
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: think I stink. I can understand why you care about that.

2087
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 2: For me, you know, I'm a lifelong diehard Raiders fan.

2088
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that.

2089
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,799
Speaker 1: For me, when the Raiders are poorly ranked this season

2090
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: coming into the season, I'm just gonna look at it

2091
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: and laugh, like cause it ain't gonna change anything that

2092
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,560
Speaker 1: actually happens on the field. And if the team is

2093
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: actually as good as fans want them to be well,

2094
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: then you can keep an eye on it, and what

2095
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: do you know, by week four or five, six, seven, eight,

2096
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: you'll start getting appropriately ranked. Like the concept that you

2097
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 1: need somebody else's approval. I understand that even for legacy conversations.

2098
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: I understand why people get fired up about that. But

2099
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: for actual hey, here's my power rankings of the teams.

2100
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 1: That's going to prove itself to me. That's the one variable. Like,

2101
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: there is no room on power rankings because in the end,

2102
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: the teams will end up where they've played themselves into

2103
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: ending up. Like if the Lakers are going to suck,

2104
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: the Lakers are going to suck because they sucked on

2105
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: the court, not because somebody making a power ranking said

2106
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: they suck.

2107
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 3: Okay, what is what is fan short for.

2108
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: Very well thought out person. That's super logical.

2109
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 3: Short for a fanatic.

2110
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: We know that.

2111
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 3: That's part of it. Come on, you're right, you're right,

2112
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 3: it's off. It's fair. If you're a fan of the sport,

2113
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 3: you're a fanatic crazy and that's that's a day's a sport.

2114
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 3: That's what makes it fun. That's a part of it.

2115
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 3: So no, it's a reason to be unreasonable. Is the

2116
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 3: reason that guys like me and you've been paid to

2117
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 3: go on in say things and formulate opinions. That's a

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Speaker 3: part of it.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I changed my mind on all of this because

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Speaker 1: I do so many videos for Yahoo Sports as my

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Speaker 1: as my main gig. Like, never mind, react to the

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01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: power rankings because it gives me something to reactive. Never Mind,

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01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Hollins is right, I like getting paid. All right. We

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01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: got plenty coming up, including not the at least of

2125
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 1: which controversy in soccer that actually ties into what every

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01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 1: single sports fan absolutely hates officiating.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up next live from tyrack dot com Studios.

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Speaker 1: But first we got to get an update on the

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Speaker 1: latest greatest news and notes in information from across the land.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jason. We start with the big news today

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Speaker 6: in the NBA, as esp had reported this morning that

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Speaker 6: the Detroit Pistons are hiring JB. Bickerstaff as their new

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01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 6: head coach. He'll get a five year contract. Vickerstaff the

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01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 6: head coach previously of the Cleveland Cavaliers for the past

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01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 6: four plus seasons, including playoff appearances the past two seasons. Overnight,

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01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 6: multiple outlets reported Chicago Bulls forward Patrick Williams has agreed

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01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 6: to a five year, ninety million dollar extension in Major

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01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 6: League Baseball. On Saturday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers and

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01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 6: San Francisco Giants were tied at seven going into the

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01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 6: eleventh inning. Dodgers scored seven runs in the top half

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Speaker 6: of the eleventh for a fourteen to seven victory. The

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01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 6: Angels over the Tigers in ten innings, six to five.

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01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 6: The Angels on a six game winning streak. Today's Major

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01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 6: League Baseball action gets underway four minutes from now as

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01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 6: the Atlanta Braves host the Pittsburgh Pirates. Soccer at Euro

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01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. The Round of sixteen kicks off at

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01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 6: the top of the hour with a matchup between England

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01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 6: and Slovakia. Now earlier, Jason and Ryan, we heard what

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01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 6: several England fans outside the stadium had to say about

2151
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 6: this matchup. Let's hear from another group of England supporters,

2152
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 6: and the blood alcohol level of these fans might be

2153
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 6: lower than the ones we heard from earlier, but the

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01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 6: confidence level remains the same.

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01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,560
Speaker 1: We all pull the handbreak off, it's going to be

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01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: a two new win and I think today we're going

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01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: to smash him, I think the real for today, I

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01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: think I'm going for three nil. I're very very excited

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Speaker 1: for today.

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01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 2: Gareth has got exhorted, he's.

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01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,639
Speaker 5: Going to make some changes, going to be positive, We're going.

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01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 6: To smash it. And finally, as it relates to American foot,

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01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 6: just want to mention that we are exactly ten Sundays

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01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 6: away from the first Sunday of the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: regular season.

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Speaker 8: And with that in mind, this is for you, Ryan.

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01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 6: I'm going to play you a tune that any NFL

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01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 6: fan out there will recognize, but the instrument is somewhat different.

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01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 6: It's an NFL related song played on a fiddle.

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Speaker 8: So this is for you Ryan.

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01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 6: Listen, and then I'm gonna give you a fact about

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01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 6: this song. Now, as you could tell, that song was

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01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 6: the famous Raider anthem, the Autumn Wind. And the fact

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Speaker 6: about that song the fiddler that you just heard the

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01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 6: guy at the other end of the microphone from you,

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01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 6: our own Jason Fitz like, seriously, I didn't know you

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01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 6: could you could do that. That was really really good,

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Speaker 6: Jason Nice.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders asked me to play that a couple of

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01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: years ago, so I did it in a studio at

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01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: ESPN and then have done it for them a couple

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01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: of times. And yeah, I'm lucky to have a great

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01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: relationship with the team that I love being able to

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01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: play the national anthem for them a few times also

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01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: before games. So yeah, it's crazy what you can do

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01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,560
Speaker 1: on a fiddle if you just you know, if you

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01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: think about it as a different instrument, it's a but Yeah,

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01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 1: certainly Autumn win Raiders fans have been really gracious to

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: that video.

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Speaker 3: You're like calling you the fiddler.

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01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, your your your talent and musical ability

2192
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 6: almost makes up for your lack of judgment in selecting

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01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 6: burger places.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I am humbly. I think I might be

2195
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: the only person in the country that's had a Grammy

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01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: vote and a Bolitant caff Award vote for the best

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in college. I've worked really.

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Speaker 3: Distinguishments in my life.

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Speaker 1: But also I don't have a vote for best burger.

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01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: I'm not no Food TV and calling me for any

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Speaker 1: best burger votes, So you know, maybe that's a hole

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01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: on my my resume. All right, it's Fox Sports Radio Sunday,

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01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins, Jason Fitz Yeah, I don't know.

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01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 1: I just figured, you know, I'm standing here looking at

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01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 1: my Grammary Stitch to get I thought I'd just just

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01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: humble Bragg to the world. Terrible, terrible, terrible. He's Ryan Hollinds.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason fitz. Hollins and I have known each other

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01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: for a long time, so it's always a blast to

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01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: get to work. I've also got a bunch of my

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01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 1: Golden Platinum records on the wall around me too. You know,

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01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing all this out, Hollins, because you played

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, So I feel like, you know, imposter

2215
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: syndrome right now hanging out with somebody that played successfully

2216
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA for a long time. You know, you

2217
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: might have played for every team in the league, but

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01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: you played in the NBA. That's all I'm saying, Hollins.

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01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: I think played for maybe what like eighty eighty eight

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01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 1: percent of the league. It feels like you played for everybody.

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01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 3: Wow, oh wow, you some somebody, you know, we show

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01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 3: you some props and somebody comes out with somebody comes

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01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 3: up firing, and somebody smelling themselves. Man.

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,719
Speaker 1: No see, I'm jealous to you though, because I haven't

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01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: watched it yet, but I found out recently that you know,

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01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 1: obviously everybody's talked about Clipped, the show about the La Clippers,

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01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: and I just never really thought about it. And I'm

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01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: wildly jealous because you were in the show, right, Like,

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01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: so Ryan Hollins is not not you, but but Ryan

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01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: Hollins is in the show, right Yeah, yeah, No, it's

2231
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 1: a real thing. It's it's a real, actual thing, dude. Like,

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01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: so two things in life that I can't imagine how

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01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: cool they are. Number one is actually being, you know,

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01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: represented in a TV show. Number two would be to

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01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: ever pull up a video game and be able to

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01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,640
Speaker 1: play as a version of yourself. Like that is just

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01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: the fact that you've been in video games is just man,

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01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: My jealousy is real, like and you're still so nice, Like,

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01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's so were you happy with

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Speaker 1: how you were cast in in Clipped?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And no? Okay, So here's the thing. My college

2242
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 3: teammate is playing me in Clipped, and I am Mike Faye.

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01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 3: Shout out, Mike Faye. We came in at the same

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01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 3: time the UCLA, so I couldn't be more privileged for

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01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: Mike to play me. Although I do have a major problem.

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01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 3: Here's my major problem as Mike plays me, he's not

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01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,879
Speaker 3: playing me, He's just being Michael Fay and he's stepping

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01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 3: in as Ryan Hullins. And the reason is is because

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01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 3: Michael is wearing his earrings. Mike wears earrings. I don't

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01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 3: wear earrings I practice. Mike is wearing this long sleeve

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01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 3: shirt that's Mike's thing. Mike knows darn well I've never

2252
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 3: worn a shirt at practice. So Michael, come on, man,

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01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: he's doing this imposter thing. Come on, Mike, We're better

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01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 3: than that.

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Speaker 1: Well, can I ask, like, and maybe this is a

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01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: stupid question, but did you get the chance to play

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01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: as you? Because like you, you're such an engaging, easy

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01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: to hang out with dude. I would think that like

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 1: doing a little work in front of the camera, something

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01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 1: you're used to doing anyway, So like, why not have

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01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins play Ryan Hollins?

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I mean I think in clip everyone was

2263
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 3: so oddly cast it that it would it would be

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01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, wouldn't be fair. I think you got to stay,

2265
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 3: you know, consistent. I can't be the shining star and

2266
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 3: actually be mean. Then everybody else is somewhe different, so

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01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 3: you know, they kind of they had to write it out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I feel like seeing Ryan Hollins

2269
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: play Ryan Hollins would be pretty if you were playing

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01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: as yourself. Would you play it straight like by the

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01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: book or would you would you embellish it a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Would you?

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01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Would you like, would you play it up a little bit?

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01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 3: I might make myself a little bit cooler, you know,

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01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 3: I might. I might. It might have been like, you know,

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01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 3: like Blake c pre and you know Holland's you know,

2277
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 3: in the script, you know, like like hey, Hollinds is

2278
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 3: supposed to set a screen and you know, I end

2279
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 3: up popping back to the ball, you know, kind of

2280
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 3: throwing some speaking lines.

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01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think you're just we're speaking lines.

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01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 2: Good lord.

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Speaker 1: So obviously I don't want to gloss over the fact

2284
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: that that show is based on a lot of controversy around,

2285
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, obviously that era of the Clippers and ownership.

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01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: When you when you watch it, does it does it

2287
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: stand up? Does it make you uncomfortable? Like? How do

2288
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: you feel?

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Speaker 3: Well? I hadn't watched it. I'm waiting. I'm waiting to

2290
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 3: binge it. But I was disappointed in one thing. So

2291
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: the one clip that went viral if you hadn't seen it.

2292
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 3: For clip from clip right is Doc Rivers is in

2293
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 3: practice his Lawrence Fishburn and he's and he's throwing all

2294
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 3: these shots at the guys and he's you know, you know, Matt,

2295
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 3: that's why your wife left you. And Blake, that's why

2296
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 3: you can't do this, and Chris, you're chasing the brall.

2297
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 3: The man Doc would never talk to us like that.

2298
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 3: Man Doc is a classy individual, so that that in

2299
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 3: itself was it was a bit wrong. They didn't they

2300
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 3: didn't have to do that, but I guess it's a

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01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:01,440
Speaker 3: part of the show. It creates the uh so called excitement,

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01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 3: so you know, it gets you got to roll with it.

2303
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 3: But know that that part right there wasn't accurate. That

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01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:08,759
Speaker 3: did not happen.

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01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's it's interesting because there was so

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01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: much conversation around the Lakers show that you know whether

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01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 1: or not that was respectful on the way they told

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01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: some of those stories. And I understand embellishment for the

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01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: sake of embellishment. I also think that you know, sports

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: of the original reality TV show, if you've got a

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01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: great story, it shouldn't need that level. Like there's other

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01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: ways you can tell it, so I can only imagine,

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01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are thicker skinned as athletes than

2314
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: many people. But it would really bother me if I

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01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 1: was Doc and I was looking at that portrayal, you know, saying, hey,

2316
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't represent who I am or how I represent

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01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: things at all. And especially considering that the crux of

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: the show is certainly not to trash Doc, it seems

2319
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: like that's sort of an unnecessary collateral damage moment. So

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01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: I feel you on that.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be tough to watch something you lived.

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01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: And I can't speak to that, but I do know

2323
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 1: that even the years that like the Nashville TV show

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: was popular, I would sort of roll my eyes at

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01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: that because if you ever lived out in reality, you

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01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: understood why that was just a stupid soap opera. But

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01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: this is so you know, based on true events that

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01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: people take it more seriously. So I think that the

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Speaker 1: makers have to be a little more careful when they

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Speaker 1: make it to make sure it does represent things the

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Speaker 1: right way. If they are going to say it's based

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Speaker 1: on something that's true, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, And I get it. It's tough because they

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01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 3: got to make their money, and I think with clips

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01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 3: so far, no harm done, you know, no harm, no foul,

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Speaker 3: but no, it is tough. You know, I can imagine

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01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 3: somebody may have been upset over some of those things.

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01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna be upset and it's not not too too crazy,

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01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,520
Speaker 3: but I get it. That's it, I guess the spiciest

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01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 3: thing that's happened on the show. But yeah, it brought

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01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 3: a little drama home. So we'll see how it ends

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01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 3: up playing out. But you know, I think with the

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01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 3: Lakers one, it was I think Jerry Wes, Yeah, Jerry Man,

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01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 3: the late great Jerry West. He was frustrated because they

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01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 3: just made him this, this this wild thingiac and it's like, okay, fine,

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01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 3: make me a little wild, but can you show some

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01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 3: good sides of me too? You know, it's like a

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01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 3: I can't remember. He was like a drunk on the floor.

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01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 3: It was something just wild and he's like, you know, like, hey,

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01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 3: you're going a little far, guys, come on, come on,

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01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 3: make it make me somewhat positive here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody else say, well, it's just TV, but

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01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: it's not because it informs opinions when people see us,

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01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: so certainly has to be difficult. Okay, you mentioned everybody

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Speaker 1: being upset when we come back, the soccer world is

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01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: upset about something that frankly, we've all heard every single

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: sports fan complain about it. We'll tell you about it

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01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: next and why it's a it's a problem the sports

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Speaker 1: can't seem to fix. That's coming up next. Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio Sunday. Welcome back in and we're live from the

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Speaker 1: tire rack dot Com Studios. Fox Sports Radio Sunday. Ryan Hollands,

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Speaker 1: Jason fitz all Right, Holland's soccer. I know, maybe I'm

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01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna claim you and I you

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Speaker 1: and I either one or soccer experts.

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Speaker 2: But there was controversy in the world of soccer.

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01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 1: As Denmark upset Germany gets a to nothing win and

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Speaker 1: var decisions in about two minutes help make that happen

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Speaker 1: in the Euros. It's created this controversy everybody yelling about var, which,

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Speaker 1: in case you don't know, is review in soccer, and Hollins,

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Speaker 1: I just yet again, it doesn't matter what the sport is.

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Speaker 1: What hit me when I saw this is we are

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01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: in a lose lose situation because if you go back

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Speaker 1: to one of the calls, particularly, it came down to

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01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: just right. It was like a hare. It was a

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 1: hare that it felt like a pinky toe sort of

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01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 1: moment was off sides and a goal gets called back,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it changes the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the game. And realistically, look at those things they get

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Speaker 1: did they get it right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: But it creates controversy and I feel like that's where

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01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 1: we are in every single sport.

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01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you get instant replay in an NBA game, then

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01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we're talking about, well they ran

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: it back and replay an I don't know, is that

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01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 1: really the spirit of it? Should they even be calling

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01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: that foul in that moment? In the NFL, they start

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: slowing these things down, they look at it frame by

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01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: frame by frame. It's an impossible job for anybody to do.

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01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: And then they complain about it, well, how can you

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01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 1: call that right?

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01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 3: Then?

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01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: Officials and replay and all of this has just gotten

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01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: so broken that if you don't do the replay, then

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01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: people think the officials are idiots. If the officials do

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 1: do the replaces and then they stick to the letter

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01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: of the law, then people say that's the wrong thing, Like,

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Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do at this point as fans,

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01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: as media when we cover this because I want accuracy,

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01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 1: but at what costs because it feels like nobody trusts

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Speaker 1: anything in the process anymore.

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01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Well, you got to keep working until you get it right.

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01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 3: And I don't think anybody expects it to be perfect,

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01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 3: but when it's right in front of your face, you

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01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 3: got to figure it out. So one of the big

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01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 3: dilemmas you're seeing in the NBA right is when there's

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01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 3: a challenge, right and you're saying, did the ball? Who

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01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 3: did the ball go out on? Right as you're seeing

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 3: who the ball went out on, you see a blatant foul,

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01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 3: You see a guy getting shoved into the sidelines or

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01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 3: getting pushed. You're going, yeah, it went out off of him,

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01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 3: but it went out because he got pushed. You know, obviously,

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01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 3: you know, how could you you know, how could you

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01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 3: not see that? And that's something that you know has

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01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 3: really you know, frustrated, you know, the fans. So that's

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01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 3: the part. And I have faith in the NBA that

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01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna get it right. It's just you know, when

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01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: you evaluate and you change the rules and you make

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01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 3: these big adjustments, you know you can't come back and

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01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 3: just change it mid season, so it takes a little

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01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 3: time and be able to get it right. But you knows,

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01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 3: as the advancements move forward, you know, the game will

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01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 3: get better and better. And I fit's you got to

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 3: think that when we grew up watching sports, if a

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01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 3: ball went out of bounds or something happened, man, you

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01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: couldn't even tell that that it went out of bounds.

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01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 3: You couldn't. You didn't notice these things. You had no

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 3: idea that it not in standard definition, not in you know,

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01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 3: however we were you know, we were watching the game,

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01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 3: you couldn't see it. But now because things are viral,

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01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 3: you know, slow motion, all these things, you know, change

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01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:20,839
Speaker 3: the way that we watch our sports.

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Speaker 1: Well, it makes the job of an official virtually impossible,

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01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: right like, because if you are going to go to review,

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01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: then you get into this really, really difficult spot where

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's the call versus the spirit

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Speaker 1: of the call, you know, and even the coach. And

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Speaker 1: here's the quote from the Denmark coaches. He said, I

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Speaker 1: have the photo of the off side here. It was

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01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: one centimeter. It doesn't make sense. That's not how we're

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be using var Well, there's two ways you

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01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,720
Speaker 1: could take that. Okay, it was one centimeter, My god,

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01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 1: are we really going to do that? Or it's one

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01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 1: centimeter and the call is the call. Like, you have

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01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the information in front of you, you have to get

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01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: it right. And I think what's hard is that fans

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01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:03,880
Speaker 1: pick and choose when they actually.

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Speaker 3: Care about a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: You see this in the NBA all the time, college

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01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: basketball too. The first thing somebody screams is well, you

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01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: can't call that there, and it's like, by god, yes

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01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: you can, because if all of a sudden an official

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01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 1: starts getting you know, interpretive, well I don't want to

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01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: make I didn't want to make that call because it was,

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, not really a big situation. Or I did

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01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 1: want to make that call because it was the middle

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01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: of the game. Well it's the last three minutes. We're

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01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: not gonna call it. If you start letting an official

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01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: start thinking before he blows his whistle, I think that's

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01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 1: a terribly slippery slope. You have no idea where that ends.

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01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: But then if you've got the replay in front of

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01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 1: you and you're like, man, I don't know, that's so close,

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01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 1: it is not really offside. A centimeter is a centimeter.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at the picture.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you have a picture and it's a

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Speaker 1: centimeter off sides.

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Speaker 2: Well, that means these off sides, it's lose lose for officials.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to get into a world where

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Speaker 1: officials start thinking they hesitate before they blow the whistle

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01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: because they're looking at it and saying, well, is this

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Speaker 1: really the spirit of it?

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Speaker 3: Just how you have professional athletes, those referees are professionals too,

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02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 3: so they're graded. There's a difference. Why you see the

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Speaker 3: veterans work in the NBA finals and again the great referees.

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02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 3: They know that their job is to get out of

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Speaker 3: the way, make the call, and make sure that the

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Speaker 3: athletes decide the games. So that's the difference. I think

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Speaker 3: what you're asking for an explaining of why some of

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Speaker 3: these referees are great and why some are not so good,

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02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 3: and that's what they get paid for. They are professionals too,

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02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 3: They are not robots. They have to use discretion in

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Speaker 3: different matters, which is.

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Speaker 1: Why I want to see every sport start releasing those

2485
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: grades and percentages so we can as a society learn

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02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 1: what a good percentage is and a bad percentage and

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Speaker 1: give referees benefit of the doubt. Thanks for hanging out

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02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,200
Speaker 1: with us, We appreciate it. Stick with Fox Sports Radio

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02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 1: all day. He's Ryan Allins, I'm Jason Fitz. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you giving us your time.