1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Minky. Listener discretion is advised. It 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: was three or four AM, and I was leaving what 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: had been a very long and fruitful paranormal investigation. The 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: building we'd been investigating was massive, falling apart in some places, 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: and had some of the most haunting history of any 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: place I'd ever been. It wasn't my first time here, 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be my last, but somehow this moment 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: felt different. As another investigator and I were walking the long, 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: dark halls to make our way out of the building, 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I felt like I was being watched and was that 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: another set of footsteps behind us? I tried to shake 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: away my apprehension and focus on the prize, my comfortable 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: hotel room bed waiting for exhausted me, But as we 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: kept walking, I couldn't shake the feeling, the feeling like 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the Boogeyman was about to reach out of the darkness 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: and grab my shoulder. It was then that my friend 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: and I stopped and looked at each other. He said, 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: I feel like we're being followed. I felt it too, 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: of course, and told him so. We craned our necks 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and stared behind us nothing, but I said loudly, I'm 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: sorry you can't come with us, but we'll be back. 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: We won't forget you. As we backed out of our 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: parking spot a few moments later, and the headlights flickered 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: across the rows of old windows and worn out brick 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: in front of us, I knew, I knew that someone 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: very much not alive was watching us from inside. Join me, 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: my friends as we head to West Virginia and visit 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: the trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. I'm Amy Brunei, and this 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: is Haunted Road. The town of Weston, West Virginia, is 31 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: a small community of about four thousand people, but in 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: spite of its modest size, it's historically been on the 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: cutting edge of technology and development. According to William M. 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Adler's entry on Weston in the West Virginia Encyclopedia, the 35 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: community adopted telephones and electric lights in the eighteen nineties. 36 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: Around the turn of the century, it displayed its well 37 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: through paved streets, grand manners, a railroad stop, and public 38 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: schools for both white and black residents. All of this 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: affluence was thanks to one institution, the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum. 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: It's a stately, massive medical facility that combines Gothic and 41 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Tudor revival flourishes. If you approach it via the tree 42 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: lined circular driveway, you'll pass a babbling blue fountain that 43 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: lies right in front of the two hundred foot tall 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: clock tower. As grandioseays, the exterior is, the inside feels 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: creepy and oppressive. The trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum doesn't operate anymore. 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: It's a tourist destination and with good costs. As the 47 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: facilities haven't been maintained. Visitors can walk down crumbling hallways 48 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: where sky blue paint peals to reveal the grimy gray walls. 49 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: Underneath debris litters the slate colored floors, But beneath the 50 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: decay and warped molding you might see hints of the 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: hospital's former grandeur. Formerly known as the West Virginia Hospital 52 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: for the Insane, the Western State Hospital, and Weston Hospital, 53 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum was first conceived in the 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century. The designers followed something called the Kirkbride Plan, 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: a philosophy that emphasized empathy kindness and patient comforts. Adheerins 56 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: thought mental health facilities should be airy, spacious, sunlit, and 57 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: well staffed. At first, the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum seemed 58 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: like a fulfillment of this vision when it opened its 59 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: doors in eighteen sixty four. The massive blue sandstone building 60 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: featured multiple wards and a three hundred acre grounds where 61 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: residents could walk and relax. According to Kim Jack's Western 62 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: State Hospital, patients had access to card games and pool tables, 63 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: while staff organized on site dances and horse drawn carriage rides. 64 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Over the next few decades, the facilities only expanded. New 65 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: wings were built with two and a half foot thick 66 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: walls engraved with images of people and animals. In the 67 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: twentieth century, they added a kitchen, a laundry, more residences, 68 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: and additional medical facilities. The Transallgating Lunatic Asylum's our history 69 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: page says that today the facility is the largest hand 70 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: cut stone masonry building in North America, and it's purportedly 71 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: the second largest in the world, next to the Kremlin. 72 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: The hospital's glory didn't last for long. The structures weren't 73 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: well maintained, and it was only matter of time before, 74 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: paint peeled and walls crumbled worst the trans Alleghany Lunatic 75 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: Asylum was becoming dangerously overcrowded. At one point, it housed 76 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: seven hundred seventeen patients, even though it had only been 77 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: designed to accommodate two hundred and fifty, and this wasn't 78 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: even its peak. The population only swelled in the years 79 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: that followed. Although the hospital kept building new wings to 80 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: accommodate the growing need, they couldn't keep up with demand, 81 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: and they continued admitting new residents they could not properly 82 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: care for. In early nineteen forty nine, a journalist named 83 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Charles Armentrout visited the hospital and wrote a report on 84 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: what he found there. He described the facilities as stench 85 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: filled with evil odors that assailed the nostrils. In one room, 86 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: he saw a pair of two by fours had been 87 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: slid under a sagging ceiling to prevent it from caving in. 88 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Another residential building had been condemned a full five years before, 89 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: but it was still operating by the nineteen fifties, when 90 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the patients numbered in the thousands. The resident to staff 91 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: ratio was roughly two hundred fifty to one. The employees 92 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: were stretched thin, as were resources. In turn, the patient 93 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: care almost certainly suffered. Most residents didn't even receive proper 94 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: headstones when they died on the premises. Many were buried 95 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: in one of the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum's three graveyards. 96 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: As reported by Kim Jackson's Western State Hospital, when people 97 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: were interred, their only grave marker was a plaque with 98 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: a number on it. The staff maintained a database so 99 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: they could track which number corresponded to which deceased patient. However, 100 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: these plaques were eventually removed. Jack speculates it might have 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: been to make lawn care easier. Thousands of graves are 102 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: now unmarked, other than the marble monuments that were erected 103 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: near each graveyard's entrance in the nineteen nineties. Given the 104 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: lack of proper staffing and resources, it was a matter 105 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: of time before the packed facility would become the site 106 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: of a disaster. On October third, nineteen thirty five, some 107 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: time before ten forty five am, a fire ignited in 108 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: the south wings Ward six attic. The building housed six 109 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: hundred residents, give or take, and when firefighters arrived on 110 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: the scene, the first priority was getting all the occupants 111 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: to safety. They thought they evacuated all the patients, but 112 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: they were wrong. It was all too easy to lose 113 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: track of a resident given the overcrowded conditions and the 114 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: confusion of the evacuation. One patient was still asleep in 115 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: the attic when the bell woke the other residence. By 116 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: the time he awakened, the blaze roared between him and 117 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: the exit. There was no avenue for escape except through 118 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the windows. Luckily, someone saw the trapped resident. The firefighters 119 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: retrieved the ladder, and the chief climbed it to rescue 120 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the patient, only to encounter another challenge. The Transallaghany Lunatic 121 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: Asylum had previously installed iron bars on every window. This 122 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: was to prevent patients from jumping. Now those grates that 123 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: were supposed to keep the patient safe had imprisoned one 124 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of them in a burning building. Amazingly, the resident managed 125 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: to bend the iron bars enough that he could squeeze 126 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: through the gap between them. Perhaps the heat of the 127 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: fire was enough to make the metal pliable, or maybe 128 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: the grates were already in disrepair. Either way, the patient 129 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: miraculously escaped the blaze, and no one was killed. In 130 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: the inferno, but there have been other instances of bloodshed 131 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: at the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum. The first recorded murder 132 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: at the hospital happened in January of eighteen seventy seven. 133 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: According to Teresa's Haunted History of the tri State by 134 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Teresa Racer, one resident came to believe that God wanted 135 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: him to kill a fellow patient. He followed the apparently 136 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: divine command by taking a bed slat and beating the 137 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: other resident to death. One local paper described the violence 138 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: by saying his head had been mashed into a jelly. 139 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: More violence followed homicides. The staff was probably stretched too 140 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: thin to prevent. Another deadly beating occurred in eighteen eighty one, 141 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: a strangling in nineteen sixty three, and a stabbing in 142 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. In nineteen eighty seven, two patients conspired 143 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: to kill a kindly forty nine year old mute man 144 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: named Dean Methanie, who was a resident at the facility. 145 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: They hanged him with a bedsheet, then, according to Kim 146 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: Jackson's Western State Hospital, they put the metal leg of 147 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the bed through his head. When authorities discovered the crime scene, 148 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: the culprits reportedly claimed that a ghost was to blame 149 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: for the murder, while the perpetrators were deemed unfit to 150 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: stand trial. There may have been something to their claims 151 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: about a ghost. Since Dean Methanie's violent death, visitors have 152 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: experienced weird phenomena in his bedroom. People say they felt 153 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: an invisible presence giving them a hug. Some see their 154 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: flashlights turn on and off on their own, and ghost 155 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: hunters have picked up EVP in his quarters. It's thought 156 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: to be Methany himself. While he was unable to speak 157 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: aloud in life, he seemingly has found a way to 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: communicate in death. Some believe one of Methanie's killers also 159 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: haunts the asylum. The spirit called Big Jim lingers on 160 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: the third floor, along with another specter called Elizabeth, a 161 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: former nurse. Beyond that, the massive hospital, with a facade 162 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: that spans almost a quarter mile, has several rooms and 163 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: wards with a generally creepy feeling to them. The fourth 164 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: floor began as staff residence and then was converted into 165 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: a ward for patients with substance use disorders. Its doors 166 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: won't open and stick even when there's nothing obstructing them. 167 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: One visitor says they once heard pounding on the other 168 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: side of the door and got the impression that someone 169 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: didn't want them to come in. This floor is also 170 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: said to be home to a ghost named Jacob. Investigators 171 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: have claimed they captured an audio recording of Jacob's searching 172 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: for a beer. Visitors have seen shadows in the morgue 173 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: throughout the facility. Figures are sometimes seen standing in the 174 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: corners of rooms. Furniture, including rocky chairs and doors, moves 175 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: on its own. Some sniff the lingering scent of tobacco 176 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: or perfume. Others say they feel someone touching or scratching them, 177 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: even when there's no one nearby. In hallways that should 178 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: be empty, guests report hearing whispered words or laughter, or 179 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: gurney wheels, squeaking. Unexplained lights flicker in the distance, while 180 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: passers through find themselves suddenly chilled in cold spots. In 181 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: ward f which began as a woman's ward and was 182 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: converted into housing for the most violent patients, tourists hear 183 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: footsteps and empty hallways, and crushing feelings of grief wash 184 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: over them. A ghost named Jack is said to lurk 185 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: in the kitchen. He's sometimes joined by the specter of 186 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: a little person, and reports suggest Jack is protective of 187 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: his companion. He'll lash out if he thinks anyone is 188 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: mocking his friend, but he's kind to children and pretty women. 189 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: The most famous specter at the trans Alleghany Lunatic Asylum 190 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: might be a ghost known as Lily. Lily is a 191 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: nine year old girl who in some reports wears a 192 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: nightgown wore a white dress. No one knows exactly how 193 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: the young child ended up at the old mental hospital. 194 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: One story, which is almost certainly false, tells of a 195 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: woman who checked into the facility after surviving a sexual assault. 196 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: She became pregnant and gave birth, only for her child 197 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: to be stillborn. According to this legend, the baby's ghost 198 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: continued to age until she became the spirit of a 199 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: nine year old girl. Other accounts say Lily died of 200 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: pneumonia at the facility around nineteen twenty. People who have 201 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: visited the hospital say they sometimes feel a childlike hand 202 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: grasp theirs, or they hear a little girl giggling. If 203 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: you put out a gift gum or a piece of candy, 204 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: then leave the room, you may return to find it 205 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: has been moved. A historian named Shelley Bailey witnessed this 206 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: first hand. She told her story on the TV show 207 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: Ghost Hunters. Sounds familiar. It was later covered in Trans 208 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and The Haunting Enigma of Lily by 209 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Eric Olsen. According to his reporting, Shelley left out a 210 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: box of crackerjacks. She later heard the box being opened 211 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: and a crunching noise. Then an EVP recording captured the 212 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: words thank you for the snacks. In ward four, There's 213 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: a room full of toys just for Lily to play with. 214 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: She seems fond of a jewelry box with a dancing 215 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: ballerina inside. It sometimes plays on its own. Some guests 216 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: have also rolled a ball across the room, only for 217 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: it to return. They believe Lily is playing with them. 218 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: By all accounts, Lily's ghosts doesn't seem malicious. In fact, 219 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: the many spirits who lurk at Trans Alleghany seem friendly 220 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: or at least indifferent to visitors. It's striking given the 221 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: hospital's dark history. In addition to the murders and the 222 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: brutal conditions due to overcrowding, this facility was the site 223 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: of many barbaric mental health treatments. Here, people were subjected 224 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: to transorbital lobotomies, electroh treatment, insulin shock therapy, and hydrotherapy 225 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: involving ice cold water. According to Jim Barnes's Washington Post 226 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: article in West Virginia, a moving, respectful tour of the 227 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum. But if the ghosts bear a 228 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: grudge for their suffering, it doesn't come across in the haunting. 229 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Up next, we will be talking with someone who's very 230 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: familiar with the asylum's hauntings. Brandy Butcher, the paranormal events 231 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: coordinator at Trans Alleghany. She's been there for over a 232 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: decade and she has some fascinating theories and stories to share. 233 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: That's coming up after the break. I am now joined 234 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: by Brandy Butcher, who is the paranormal event manager at 235 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Trans Alleghany, and she's been there for quite a while. White, Brandy, 236 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: that is correct. 237 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: I've been there almost ten years now. 238 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: That's amazing. You know. I have been fortunate enough that 239 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: I have investigated there quite a few time over the years. 240 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I've been there a few times with ghost hunters. I 241 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,359 Speaker 1: went back there with paranormal lockdown and it never disappoints 242 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: like there was always a ton of activity. So is 243 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: that why you found yourself there? 244 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. 245 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: Now did you start in the capacity of paranormal event manager? 246 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: How did you kind of come to this position that 247 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: you're in now? 248 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: Now? 249 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: I started as a paranormal tour guide and I would 250 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: help god guests through on our two hour nighttime tours 251 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: and then our overnight investigations, and you know, help guests 252 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: investigate find their comfort zone within the asylum. 253 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: Which, as you know, can be kind of tricky. 254 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: To do, is finding a comfort zone in there. And 255 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: then I have just kind of worked my way up 256 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: over the years. 257 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: It's a very intimidating building when you come up to it, 258 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: like it's just it looks like a very scary place, 259 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: and when you step inside, there's different dynamics depending on 260 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: where you are in the building. I feel like like 261 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it feels very comforting and peaceful, and then other 262 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: times you define feel like someone is like over your 263 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: shoulder and they want you to leave. Has that been 264 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: your experience? 265 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 266 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like you said, there are so many different dynamics. 267 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: There's so much, you know, different types of history, so 268 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: many different types of history within the asylum besides just 269 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: you know, the hospital itself. So yeah, you you know, 270 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: it depends on where you're at on you know, the 271 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: emotions in the feelings you're going to experience. 272 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: I liked how it seems well. Last time I was there, 273 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to remember when it was. I 274 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: think it was probably about ten years ago. I do 275 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: feel like at that time there was I felt like 276 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: there was a lot of exhibits in history being displayed 277 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: that gave a really good kind of background of what 278 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: went on there in a very respectful way too. And 279 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: I feel like there was also I don't know if 280 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: that's still there, but there was a lot of art 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: displayed by past patients. There is that still in that 282 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: big hallway. 283 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: It is not in that hallway now, but we do 284 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: still have our patient art museum room. We REDOI at 285 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: our museum rooms, so it's a little more time. It's 286 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: easier to follow timeline wise to see the history of 287 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: the asylum. 288 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: Now. 289 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: Our layout is so that you can go from the beginning, 290 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: you know, the rooms start with all the way back 291 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: to some of the Civil War history that we have 292 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: on the property and then goes up until the later 293 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: years of the asylum before it closed. So now you 294 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: can kind of walk the timeline of the asylum. And 295 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: we do still have a patient art gallery within the 296 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: museum rooms. 297 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: That's great, that's really fascinating. So what do you tell 298 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: people when you're about to take people in there for 299 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: panormal investigation? What is kind of the pep talk that 300 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: you give them before you go inside. 301 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 3: We usually like to tell people, you know, try to 302 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 3: stay calm, definitely not to feed the building with your fear. 303 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: I do believe that, you know, the more intimidated you 304 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: go in, the more you know raveled you may get 305 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: throughout the experience. 306 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: Open mind. 307 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: Respect is a major thing with the asylum. The spirits 308 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: and their respect goes a very, very long way. It's 309 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: very different than investigating a prison or a lot of 310 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: other locations. 311 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: When you're in a. 312 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: Former hospital, especially a former asylum, so respect goes a 313 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: long ways. And you know, if you give the building 314 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: respect a lot of the time, even if you have 315 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: a scary experience, it hopefully or usually isn't something aggressive. 316 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: It's just you know, maybe, like you said, something that 317 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: doesn't want you in its in its space. 318 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, It's funny. When we went back there 319 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: with Panormal Lockdown, they remembered us, so we actually got 320 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: an EVP of them saying Adam's name. Do you find 321 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: that they kind of that the spirits start to recognize 322 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: people that are there more often and start to kind 323 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: of develop like relationships with them or kinships with them. 324 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely. 325 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: I thought that was a really really cool piece of 326 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: evidence that you guys captured on that. I found that 327 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: quite interesting because the building does remember, and especially if 328 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 3: you go in, you know, in a respectful manner, the 329 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: way you guys have and the way we do as employees, 330 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 3: and you know, we expect our guests to they absolutely 331 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: will remember. And yeah, they remember us as employees. Obviously, 332 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: I've been there a long time, so they like to 333 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: mimic me. They have said my name through spirit boks 334 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: and things like that throughout the building, and it definitely 335 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: has you know, the building has a memory. 336 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I feel like some of these 337 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: spirits are getting more respect in death and they might 338 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: have in life, you know, the way that investigators are 339 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: going in there now, and so I could see them 340 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: opening up a bit more over time. 341 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does matter, and you know, I've had a 342 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: lot of teams come in and tell me that, you know, 343 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: going in with a respectful approach makes a huge difference 344 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 3: in their level of activity. And you know, if one 345 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: thing that we like to practice at the asylum is 346 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: that if we don't learn from our past, we're doomed 347 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: to repeat it. So even though the history, you know, 348 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: isn't the prettiest, we have to teach people about what 349 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: it was like for these patients. And you know how 350 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: far the treatments and you know, health care has come 351 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: for mental illnesses compared to back then. 352 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: So absolutely that's so important. Kind of going through the asylum, 353 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: it's very large. You can get lost in there very easily. 354 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: What is kind of like the most common type of 355 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: paranormal activity that people experience there? 356 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 3: I would say the most frequent activity or the reports 357 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: are being followed, especially if you're, like you said, if 358 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: you might get confused turned around and you're trying to 359 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: find your way out, maybe walking through a ward or 360 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: a hallway by yourself, the most frequent report is that 361 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: someone was following you out of that ward. Has happened 362 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: to myself many many times over the years, So that's 363 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: probably our most common is they do like to follow us, 364 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: watch what we're doing here, what we're saying. 365 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: So that is so interesting that you say that, because 366 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: I talked about it in the first half. But when 367 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: Adam and I left one night from filming there, we 368 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: were both like, we walked all the way down this 369 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: long hallway, went out the back door, and we were 370 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: walking toward our rental car, and both of us just 371 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: stopped and looked at each other and we were like, 372 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: there's someone following us. Like we just we felt it. 373 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: And I remember we turned around and we were like, hey, 374 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, much respect to you, but we will be 375 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: back tomorrow, but you know, you can't come with us. 376 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever follow people home, but 377 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: it certainly felt like, yeah, feeling like someone's like right 378 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: behind you. And that's so funny because he and I 379 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: talk about that to this day. We bring it up 380 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in lectures and everything. And I had no idea that 381 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: it was such a frequent report there. 382 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it happens to me quite often. When I'm 383 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: locking up at night. 384 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: I'll walk down through certain areas to lock up, you know, 385 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: while the guides or my other staff are out in 386 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: the lobby or in our break room, and yeah, I 387 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: often will hear some either footsteps or like you said, 388 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: I'll get that feeling like someone's following me. And a 389 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: lot of us also practice you know, the hey, we'll 390 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: be back, we'll see you next time, we'll bring you 391 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 3: whatever you need. If maybe they, you know, bribed us 392 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 3: for some cigarettes or something like that during a session. 393 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: And yeah, we've never had any problems with anything following 394 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: us home. It's always just a matter of following us 395 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: down the hallways, maybe around the property. 396 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, and they might not have even followed us home. 397 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: It was almost like we were being escorted, like you know, 398 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: like maybe they were just kind of seeing us out 399 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: or something. But we both the fact that we both 400 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: felt it at the same time was so wild, and 401 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: we haven't had that happen since. Oh wow, okay, so 402 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: we've got that. And then obviously, like you were saying, 403 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: those footsteps, which I experienced there firsthand quite a bit. Actually, 404 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting when you're in there and you know, 405 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's a very controlled environment. 406 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: You know. 407 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: I think people they have this idea that when TV 408 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: shows are filming, there's this huge crew or something, but 409 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: paranormal TV not a lot of budget there. Most of 410 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: our crews are very small, smaller than the paranormal teams 411 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: that go in a lot of the time, and you 412 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: know where everyone is, you know what they're doing, and 413 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: so it's pretty wild to be in there, which is 414 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: like you know, you like me and Adam and then 415 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: maybe like a camera operator and a sound person and 416 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: you're hearing clear life like loud footsteps down at the 417 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: other end of the hallway, or you hear doors closed 418 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: like that. Just does that happen constantly there? 419 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: It does. 420 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: We just had a filming a couple of nights ago, actually, 421 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: and I was the only staff member there with you know, 422 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: the crew, Like you said, very small crew, and yeah, 423 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: we while just while we were doing our walkthrough, we 424 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: were hearing doorknobs rattling, one of the doors closed. We 425 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: were hearing footsteps following us and even murmuring or talking 426 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: as we were walking through. And once they went to 427 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: investigate and I was, you know, out of the way 428 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: so they could do their investigation. 429 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: I was constantly hearing things. I do. I hear things 430 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: all the time. 431 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: When I'm in the breakroom or the lobby by myself, 432 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: I will hear doors start to open or creak footsteps even, 433 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: like I said, whispers sometimes, so they like to keep 434 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: an eye on what's going on. 435 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: For sure. 436 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: That's really wild to think about. I one of the 437 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: most interesting experiences that I had there actually was I 438 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: can't remember what floor was. I feel like it was 439 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: one of the upper floors. I think it was the 440 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: floor where the bed incident happened, if I remember correctly. 441 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Maybe the violent Men's Ward on the third floor. 442 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And so I remember standing back and just watching 443 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: shadow figures down at the very end of the hallway. 444 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: One actually ran all the way across the hallway. But 445 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: then you would also see them kind of looking out 446 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: at us as well, like almost like they're wondering what 447 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: we're doing. Do you see shadow figures there? Often we do. 448 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: We have what we call our peekaboo shadows that do 449 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 3: kind of like what you were just saying. They'll kind 450 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: of peek out, look down the hallway at us maybe 451 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: and then pull back into the room. We do have 452 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: a shadow figure that we encounter in that violent Men's Ward, 453 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: that probably the same one you encountered, and it's usually 454 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: seen crossing either the width of the hallway or the 455 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: length of it, and then especially up on the fourth 456 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: floor in one of the wards, we always see a 457 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: shadow figure walking back and forth in one of the 458 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: windows up there. He's almost always there. I think there's 459 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: probably only a handful of occasions over the years where 460 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: I didn't see him when I was up in that area. 461 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: So is this something that you see from outside as well? 462 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: Do people report seeing people in the building when no 463 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: one is inside the building supposedly no one living anyway? 464 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: Now, we have had reports, of course, there's never been anything, 465 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: you know, never been anybody in there when someone's checked. 466 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: But most of the time we encounter it from inside. 467 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: But we have the occasion where, you know, we go 468 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 3: over even after lock up and myself and a guide 469 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: are walking we know that the team is. 470 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Out of the building. 471 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: We're just walking through making sure everything's secure, and hear 472 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: footsteps in the ward above us. Go upstairs to check 473 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: make sure that nobody you know who was accidentally being 474 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: locked in with us, and sure enough, there was nobody 475 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: left in the building, The cars were gone, you know, 476 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: nobody in the parking lot, and absolutely nobody in that 477 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: ward where we would hear very heavy footsteps directly above us. 478 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: Do you ever feel like they're kind of into the investigations, 479 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: like they're starting to kind of feel like a part 480 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: of this and they want to assist in some way, 481 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Like I got that vibe there weirdly, just like they 482 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 1: got kind of excited about it, like this is just 483 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: you know what they could help with in some fashion. 484 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, And they're they're especially funny about the 485 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: film crews and the film teams that come in. Just 486 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: the other night, I had kind of forewarned the team, 487 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: you know, I said, when we start moving to the 488 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: upper floors, make sure you have some backup battery power 489 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: things like that so you're not having to run up 490 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: and down the stairs for you know, for the batteries, 491 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: because the upper floors inventorious for draining batteries rapidly quick 492 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: And sure enough, by the time we hit the third 493 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: floor center section we started having It was a brand 494 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: new camera. They said they were having all kinds of 495 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: problems with it, just draining battery, not recording. I've personally 496 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: had one of the areas wipe out part of my 497 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: SD card on my camera, so I'd mentioned that to 498 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: them prior. And we got up there and we were 499 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: missing large sections of our walkthrough the building had apparently 500 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: just decided that wasn't going to record. So so yeah, 501 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: they definitely participate. I think that they find humor in, 502 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: you know, kind of messing with us in that way 503 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: a lot of the time. 504 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: So they're like, that wasn't good enough, you guys need 505 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: to shoot that again. Yeah, so let's help you with them. 506 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: That's too funny. I see. I felt I feel like 507 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: they're just so interactive and you know, and I feel 508 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: like that just might be part two part of like 509 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: how they lived there too. You know, it was just 510 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: I imagine there were probably many activities for patients and things, 511 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: but I think there was also probably a point, especially 512 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: when they were overcrowded, that. 513 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: They were bored. 514 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, there was not a lot going on. They 515 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: were locked in rooms, there were you know, they those 516 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: were times where they just nothing exciting was happening, you know, 517 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: and that's probably why they reverted. There was some really 518 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: violent incidents at that time because there just weren't enough 519 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: people on staff to take care of them. But it 520 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: also makes me wonder if now they kind of are 521 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: finding this attention enjoyable in some way or and maybe 522 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: that's even keeping them there too. Maybe there's a reason 523 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: why they're staying like they're they're enjoying it. 524 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. 525 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: And we've asked, you know, many times in many different areas, 526 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: why are you still here? 527 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: Or you know, do you want to leave? 528 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: And most of the time we get the answers around, 529 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: you know, something similar to that's their home. It's always 530 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 3: been their home, and they have no desire to leave, 531 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: you know, like you were saying, that's that's all they 532 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: ever knew. So for a lot of them, they don't 533 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: even I don't think they know where they would even 534 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: go to leave at this point, and this was their home. 535 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: This is where they're comfortable. And like you did say, absolutely, 536 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure that boredom was a you know, major factor 537 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: and a lot of the things that went on and 538 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: in some of the wards in the dayroom areas, you 539 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: can see the carvings in the windowsills where they would 540 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: watch the ball games that would take place on the 541 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: front lawn, like the baseball games, and you can see 542 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: the march where they would keep score from carving that 543 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: into the windows sell and you can still see that 544 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: to this day. So that right there was you know, 545 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: something they would do to pass the time, because, like 546 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: you said, it could get boring. 547 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure. 548 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've found just in other asylums from similar time 549 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: periods that I've investigated. You know, eventually they close, but 550 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: then there are those residents that are still there, and 551 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean in some cases by the time they closed, 552 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: they're very rehabbed, not the patients per se, but just 553 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: the procedures that were going on. But they're just not. 554 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: There wasn't need for like these massive structures anymore. So 555 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: you have these patients there that suddenly end up in 556 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: nursing homes and things like that, very different environments than 557 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: what they're accustomed to. And they missed the asylums, they 558 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: missed where they had been that whole time, and so 559 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, I could see some of them being, you know, 560 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: afraid to see what's next. I'm sure a lot of 561 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: them were in a very vulnerable state in life as 562 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: it was. Now, have you ever been able to get 563 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: specific names through investigating and then actually trace them to 564 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: like a resident who was actually there at some point 565 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and find out their story or anything like that. 566 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: We do have a few spirits that we communicate with 567 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: that have been documented as patients of the asylum. One 568 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: of them is down on the first floor and his 569 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: name is Jacob, and he was around twenty eight years 570 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: old and he believed that staff were hiding beer from 571 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: him when he was alive, so we do still get 572 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: interaction from him. We found historical documents that he was 573 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: an actual patient, and we have, you know, a handful, 574 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: but the most difficult thing is finding the records of 575 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: you know, there are still a lot of privacy laws 576 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: because we were open all the way up until nineteen 577 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: ninety four, so there's a lot of stuff we can't access, 578 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: and the stuff that we can sometimes that's very difficult 579 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: to locate and trace back. We get so many names 580 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: through our investigations, and a lot of times it's just 581 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: a first name. We hardly ever get a last name 582 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: or a surname. So that makes it a little bit 583 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: trickier because even with Jacob, and if we had never 584 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: got the name, got his last name, got Iyres from 585 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: a session, we probably never could have narrowed it down 586 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: to you know, this specific Jacob because that would have 587 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: been a very common name. So it makes it tricky 588 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: when you get the same name in different areas because 589 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: we don't always know if that is maybe the same 590 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: spirit just following us through the building, or if that 591 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: could be a different spirit that had the same name. 592 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: So now, forgive me. I sometimes get my haunted asylums 593 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: confused because I've been to so many. But is there 594 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: a building up behind the main building of some sort? 595 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: Am I remembering that correctly? Yes? 596 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: We have three? 597 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Actually, Oh okay, good, because I feel like I went 598 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: in there and it was pretty run down. I don't 599 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: know that the public, I mean maybe back then. Maybe 600 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's been fixed since or people can go in 601 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: there now, but it was very wet. I remember flooded, 602 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: and I remember coming across actual patient records still, and 603 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that was part of the evidence we captured, 604 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: was that some of them moved on their own on camera, 605 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: because I had kind of flipped through them and I 606 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: was reading names, trying to see if there was anyone 607 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: there that was familiar with these people or were them, 608 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, And then I think we got on camera 609 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: one of those sheets actually moving on its own, which 610 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: was pretty crazy. 611 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And if I'm remembering correctly, I believe that you 612 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: guys were in our ci building are criminally insane building 613 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: when that happened and I think that you guys were 614 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: also in medical center. My stuff also runs together, so 615 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: I apologize as well. But yeah, the medical center, it does. 616 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: It can get a little bit of standing water on 617 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: the first floor. But we did also have medical records 618 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: in criminally insane building, so I'm thinking that you guys 619 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: got to check both of those out maybe, And I 620 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: do remember that that was another really awesome piece of 621 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: evidence that you guys captured. 622 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, I just I think 623 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: we just really went in there just being very conversational 624 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: and friendly and trying to be understanding, and that really 625 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: seemed to make a difference. 626 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: You know. 627 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: I think it's really easy to go into those places, 628 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: especially when you're first investigating and it's a novelty. You know, 629 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: it's easy to go in and kind of you know, 630 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: try to get scared or try to like kind of 631 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: make light of it or joke around about it. But 632 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: then when you really think like who you're talking to 633 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: potentially and who you know and treating them accordingly, you 634 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: get so much more interaction and hopefully interaction that can 635 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: help them or make them feel better in some way. 636 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely a perfect example of that, and it's one of 637 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: the buildings that is very limited access. It's accessible on 638 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 3: photography tours because there's a phenomenal staircase in there that 639 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: we feature on our photography tours and we have it 640 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: featured on our flashlight tours last season and this coming 641 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: season as well, simply because we were trying to find 642 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: new areas to introduce guests to and let them see. 643 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: And the second oldest building on the property is the 644 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: women's auxiliary building, and as most people know, the majority 645 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: of patients were females, so that was, you know, one 646 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: of the first necessities was an additional building for female patients, 647 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: and that makes it the second oldest building on the property. Myself, 648 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 3: my other manager at the time, and two of my 649 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: veteran guides had went in there to investigate to see 650 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: if we could get some kind of evidence that, you know, 651 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 3: we could feature on our tours, something we could tell 652 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: our guests about the paranormal activity in that building because 653 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 3: it's so untouched, especially when it comes to investigations. And 654 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: we went in there one night and it started out 655 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: very very slow, but as we kind of between the 656 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: four of us were trying to get you know, some 657 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: kind of interaction from them somebody had mentioned, you know, 658 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: that we were sorry for what had happened to them 659 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: in their time there, and how you know, we imagine 660 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: as women that you know, we we're appreciative of the 661 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: rights that we have as women now, but how you know, 662 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: we have so many freedoms that they didn't. And it 663 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: immediately started increasing our activity to the point of where 664 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: we asked them if they wanted like a manicure kit, 665 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: like a kit that had some makeup and some hair crawlers, 666 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 3: things like that that you know, would make them feel 667 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 3: better about themselves maybe, and the equipment we were using 668 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: just went absolutely It was the most intense interaction I've 669 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: ever seen. The guide that was actually downstairs at the 670 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 3: time heard a female woman whisper his name in his ear. 671 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: He immediately came back upstairs because it shook him a 672 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: little bit. He wasn't expecting it. And the more we 673 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: tried to just relate and kind of help the spirits 674 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: of this building, the better our activity got. So yeah, 675 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely a big difference in you know, 676 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: like we said before, asylums versus prisons and kind of 677 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 3: trying to get on their level and offer them help 678 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: and give them respect That goes a long long way 679 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: with the buildings. 680 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: That's great. I know, it's so interesting how they do 681 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: have this fascination and sometimes with physical objects that you 682 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: can bring them like I can't imagine they can actually 683 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: use them, but they ask for them. I don't know 684 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: how any of that works, obviously, but it is interesting 685 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: that there are certain objects that they get very excited about, 686 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's I don't know, that's a super 687 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: interesting story. So on that note, I love kind of 688 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: just stressing that that respectful side of things. What if 689 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: people want to come visit? It sounds like you do 690 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: all kinds of tours, which I love. I love that 691 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: you do photography tours because it is a very photogenic building. 692 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: So what if people want to visit, how do they 693 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: go about doing that? 694 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Especially for our paranormal stuff and our photography tours. Then 695 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 3: you can get on our website transale any Lunatic Asylum 696 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: dot com, talawv dot com, and you can book any 697 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 3: of our overnight stuff. We have all kinds of events 698 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: coming up for October. Our photography tours we run one 699 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: per season winter, spring, summer, and fall, so we have 700 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 3: one more coming up this year. And then we will 701 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: resume those next season. Our daytime tours are going to 702 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 3: go all the way until the beginning of November. Those 703 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 3: are first come, first serve, So if you want to 704 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 3: get into the history, and we also offer a daytime 705 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: paranormal tour, you can just show up at the Asylum 706 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 3: Tuesday through Sunday or our days that we're open, and 707 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, just go into the lobby, pick your tour, 708 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: you know, get your ticket, and then you also get 709 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 3: access to all of our new museum rooms, which are 710 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: absolutely fascinating. There were some beautiful displays, some amazing artifacts 711 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 3: that we have housed in there that people can check out. 712 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: And if you have any questions, you're welcome to call 713 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: our office and you know, our secretary would be happy 714 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: to answer any questions that you don't find answers to 715 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 3: you on the website or I may not have touched 716 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 3: on here. 717 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: That's great, and you know, I want to stress to 718 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: people paranormal activity doesn't just happen at night, So you 719 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: got and I can vouch for that building. You know, 720 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: the Asylum in particular, things happen at all hours of 721 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: the day, so visit whenever you can make time. So 722 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: I really do appreciate you taking the time, Brandy. It's 723 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: kind of kind of a walkdownlaying from me. I hadn't 724 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: realized how long it had been since i'd been there, 725 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: so clearly I need to get back soon. 726 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 3: You didn't come back and see us, I'd love to 727 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: meet you in persons, Yeah, that'd be great. 728 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you taking the time. 729 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. Amy. 730 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: If there's one lesson to take away from the trans 731 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: Allegheny Lunatic Asylum, it's that even the best laid plans 732 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: don't always work out how you hope they will. The 733 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: original founders designed the hospital in the hopes that it 734 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: would be a peaceful, picturesque place for recovery. Instead, thousands 735 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: of people suffered and sometimes died within its walls, and 736 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: their specters linger to this day. Perhaps we can hope 737 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: these spirits found a piece in death that they were 738 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: missing in life. I'm Amy Brunei and this was haunted road. 739 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Are you tired of the same old vacation destinations and 740 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: cookie cutter experiences? Do you crave a sense of mystery, 741 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: wonder and adventure that can't be found in ordinary travel brochures? 742 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: Do you listen to this podcast and think I'd like 743 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: to visit that spooky place, Well that's why I started 744 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: Strange Escapes, a paranormal based travel company that takes you 745 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: to some of the most haunted locations in the world. Frankly, 746 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: it's my excuse to combine all of my favorite things, 747 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: which is ghosts, beautiful hotels, food and wine, and other 748 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: weirdos like me. To be honest, If that sounds right 749 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: up your alley and you want to learn more, then 750 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: visit Strange Escapes dot travel and hopefully you can join 751 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: us sometime. Also. To keep up on all of my 752 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: upcoming projects and appearances, head to amybrune dot com. I 753 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: have some really great things in the works and I 754 00:39:50,480 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: don't want you to miss it. Thanks. Haunted Roadies. Haunted 755 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: road is hosted and written by me Amy Bruney, with 756 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: additional research by Taylor Haggerdorn and Cassandra de Alba. This 757 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: show is edited and produced by Rima al Kali, with 758 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: supervising producer Josh Thain and executive producers Aaron Menke, Alex Williams, 759 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: and Matt Frederick. Haunted Road is a production of iHeartRadio 760 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: and Grim and Mild from Aaron Menkey. Learn more about 761 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: this show over at grimanmild dot com, and for more 762 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 763 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.